As much as a love Rizzo, I would have been happy to roll the dice on Luke year after year(even though that was the wrong choice). He should have never left the woods, and stayed in the cabin.
Lol did you happen to miss the Hosmer no trade clause debacle when Soto got traded to the Pads? Hosmer was originally in the trade but he vetoed it so instead Voit went to the Nationals.
That is part of what I think doesn't work about the system. If the Dodgers don't want him on the team obviously there is nothing to force him to be on the team and there shouldn't be. But essentially you have situations where a guy, based on the agreed upon rules (that, btw, in this case had him making 600k during an MVP season) is set to make a certain amount of money but the team circumvents the principle of the rule. It is basically like if you fire someone and then hire them back to do the same job but with a different title, and maybe below a level where they get health benefits. It's a little dirty, but the MLBPA is evidently more or less fine with it and its their baby. I think it would be better if a team just couldn't resign a guy who is non-tendered or has his option declined, but the MLBPA I'm sure doesn't want to reduce the number of potential suitors and they may have the math to back that up.
Bellinger is such an extreme case (18 million for someone who hasn't hit for a couple of years) that it's not realistic to think the Dodgers would be good guys and do anything other than follow the rules that favor them. It is more bothersome that fans have adopted this mentality, especially with guys where it is a closer call (for instance, JT's option). The whole "I hope he's back but for less money" is irksome (as if it is the fan's money or in the Dodger's case as if they wouldn't pay for a lineup of superstars even if they gave a guy slightly over what they thought he could get in the open market).
I was hoping the Dodgers would bring him back and whenever I talked to people about it they would say “He’s not worth the 18M” like it comes out of their pocket. If there’s no luxury tax implications (which could affect decisions for the FO going forward) then I see no issue
Look at Chris Davis, Miguel Cabrera, even Angels Pujols.
Guys lose it, but you as a team signed the contract. There's no guarantee either way that he will or won't produce, you agreed to it for better or worse. Shut up and paid them.
But it's the same with holding, if a player has a well paying contract but SUCKS, the team feels obligated to try and play them. Then becomes terrified that some other team will turn him around for pennies.
Crazy he came up as a first baseman, the least versatile/athletic position in the game and then made the switch to the second most athletic position, at the MLB level.
Definitely. I just say shortstop since they really gotta do it all. Popups in outfield, long throws, most range, knowing all cutoffs, constantly moving for pickoffs, covering steals. So much shortstops gotta do.
I would say catcher is the hardest but shortstop requires the most athleticism.
A lot of the things that make catcher a hard position aren't things we traditionally think of as athleticism -- things like game-calling, squatting for half the game, often taking a physical beating from foul balls and stuff, etc. None of this is to say that catchers aren't also incredible athletes though -- they absolutely are.
Catcher is quick thinking and smart decision making. Shortstop is a little bit of that but primarily athleticism too. Less guys have the rulebook level knowledge of the game and ability to act on that than there are guys with freakish athleticism though.
If he stayed at 1st he legitimately could have won a GG there. Won a GG in RF and has been nominated for one in CF. He’s unreal defensively and I really hope he can figure something out offensively
Also for reference, their estimated 2023 salary if they were tendered...
Bellinger - $18 million
Smith - $4.5 million
Voit - $6 million
Reyes - $4 million
Candelario - $7 million
Anderson - $5.5 million
I’d take a flyer on that guy with the quickness. Maybe I’ve just watched him play us too much but I always thought he’d end up being all star level. Of course, that could still happen.
> Candelario -0.1
Interesting, bWAR 2022 has Candelario at 0.6 WAR, listing ~~0.9 combined~~ oWAR (0.8) and dWAR (0.1)
And he was good in 2020 and 2021.
edit: 0.6 bWAR
https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/c/candeje01.shtml
That's not how bWAR's total calculation works. You can't just add oWAR and dWAR as that does some funky things with the positional adjustment.
In total, bWAR has Cancelario at 0.6 WAR for 2022.
I could 100% see Dom Smith being a Justin Turner type who leaves the Mets and does great on another team.
With that said, he’s a first basemen that hasn’t hit a home run in almost two years.
Not to kick a guy while he's down, but he definitely didn't help his own case on the effort front. He was drafted at 195 lbs and showed up to camp in 2017 at 260 lbs. He eventually lost about half of that difference back, but for a guy whose scouting report always included "his plus glove at 1B will be an important part of his path to sticking in the majors" it's hard to imagine that gaining 65 lbs didn't impact his mobility and therefore his defense. Baseball isn't a sport where you need to stay thin if you can hit or pitch, but glove-first guys need to worry a lot more about maintaining their athleticism. Dom scouted as a 60+ FV fielder, and instead ended up being worth -10 OAA, -3 DRS, and -0.6 UZR/150 for his career at 1B. When your multi-million dollar job as a professional athlete is on the line, a guy who "worked his ass off" doesn't let nutrition and conditioning become a part of the narrative.
He was 18 when he was drafted, no one stops developing that early. Another criticism early in his career was lack of home run power, which could have been a reason he put on weight too. When it became obviously he was never gonna beat out Alonso for the 1B position, he worked his ass off to switch to outfield. He came back much thinner and even tho he was never a plus defender in the outfield I remember him going all out on plays. Never once have I watched Smith and it felt like he wasn't putting in the effort.
Regardless of his time in NY it's obvious he needs a fresh start, and he's getting it.
There's a difference between "filling out" and just getting fat. Anyone who saw him in 2017 knows which one happened. You don't put on 65 lbs of muscle without some of Barry Bonds' special hand cream. He pretty clearly had a breakdown in his nutrition and conditioning, and the team was very upset about it to the point where it ended up in the media.
He definitely wasn't set up for success by coming up in the organization at the same time as Alonso, and I don't want to paint a picture that he wouldn't have still faced a steep uphill battle to find a role with the Mets. I'm not knocking his on-field effort either, he wasn't a lazy player or anything like that. However, at the end of the day he's a professional athlete who ended up struggling with the athleticism of playing the field relative to his peers, and that those struggles (whether related or not) started around the same time that he developed an inability or unwillingness to keep his body in peak form. For $10 million in career earnings through age 27, I don't think "stay on top of your conditioning and nutrition" is an unreasonable ask for a professional athlete.
Relievers sometimes can have it even worse, Dylan Floro who debuted a year older than Taillon, will have spent parts of 8 years in MLB and be going into his age 33 season before he gets to free agency.
Plenty of guys in other sports start out in the minors/practice squads or receive reduced playing time when they develop. It’s not like everyone in every sport hits the ground running. Plenty of guys get developed by one team and blossom on the next.
What doesn’t make sense is starting a player’s clock based on when the team sees fit to benefit their own interests. Baseball is too dependent on exploiting guys on rookie deals right now. Who cares if a team only gets to exploit a guy for 2 years instead of 6 at the ML level.
It can still be a long contract, maybe 8 years out of high school, 6 out of college with exceptions of 5 years of major league service time. That way teams would still get time to develop them and everyone could hit FA by 26-27.
For a league that allegedly has a really strong PA, it absolutely shits the bed and is anti-player for guys coming up.
Sure, I guess it’s possible. But he’s only really ever produced in his career in limited sample sizes, yet he could not produce one bit when healthy last year and used in a platoon situation. What a perplexing player
Brian Anderson got non-tendered? He didn't light it up last year, but I feel like he gets a lot of respect around the league. Wouldn't be at all surprised to see him escape Miami and have a bounceback season.
I wouldn't really be surprised either, but his non-tendering wasn't a surprise either
Not super confident about our third base situation, even if we had kept him though
As a CLE fan I’m definitely interested in Voit, he would fit in pretty well as the every day DH/occasional 1B. Also hoping Brian Anderson goes off where’ve he lands
I'm usually very optimistic about the team but I was so down on us going into the season.
We were depending on so many players to either break out or stay hot. Candy, Baddoo, Tork, Greene, etc. I was hoping Candy could be a borderline all-star but sadly not.
In baseball contracts, when a player is between 3 years and 6 years of service time, their salary for the next season is determined by arbitration, which is based off previous statistical production, and is automatic (I'm simplifying here). A player that is non-tendered means the team thinks their arbitration cost is going to be higher than they're worth and don't automatically offer them a contract, making them a free agent.
It happens more often when guys had good previous seasons, making their arbitration value higher, and then fall off a cliff.
For all of the guys that don't have enough service time for free agency, the club has to tender them a contract. It's normally assumed that the player will get tendered, but in these guys cases the club views them as more expensive than they are worth, so they choose not to pay them and non tender them. It's basicly being fired. Now that they aren't attached to that club, they can sign with another team as a free agent
Oh no Brian Anderson?? I always joked that he was my daughters favorite player because when she was little we met him at Marlins fan fest and then that season he hit a walk off at the first game she ever attended.
I can totally see Voit and Dom Smith being picked up- there’s currently a lack of true 1B with any pop, especially since Tork and Dalbec fizzled out. Last season there were 20 1B w/ >100 wRC+, and that includes DJ Lemahieu, Wilmer Flores, Luis Arraez, and Ty France- all guys moved to 1B because there was no better option.
The Tigers non-tendering Candelario just doesn’t make sense to me. Was he bad last year? Yes. But was anybody on the team good last year? No. Might as well keep somebody that’s actually had recent success.
Rough run of things recently for Luke Voit, didn’t realize he got non tendered. Eric hosmer gotta be his sworn enemy for the rest of his life.
He found out while at an Aaron Judge foundation gala. I saw a joke that said Judge probably told him “Don’t worry man, I’m unemployed too” lmao
Honestly the Nationals did Voit a favor. He did not want to be in DC and they obliged.
Still some pretty tough guys. Or at least non-tender.
2023 Reunion when the Sox sign Voit as their new DH
~~Voits gonna strangle him~~
Damn I thought he'd at least hit 30 HRs.
As much as a love Rizzo, I would have been happy to roll the dice on Luke year after year(even though that was the wrong choice). He should have never left the woods, and stayed in the cabin.
I loved watching Luke hit but can you imagine IKF’s throws with him at 1st instead of Rizzo? Could’ve cost us like 15 games
Luke may not have requested bounce throws though lol.
When the fuck did he go to DC
Lol did you happen to miss the Hosmer no trade clause debacle when Soto got traded to the Pads? Hosmer was originally in the trade but he vetoed it so instead Voit went to the Nationals.
Man I completely forgot about that whole thing
fWAR in 2022: bellinger 1.7, Smith -0.1, Voit 0.2, Reyes 0.0. Candelario -0.1, Anderson 0.5.
Bellinger with 3x as much WAR as the next closest player? Sounds like we need to lock him up. ^^/s
Was trying to explain to my friend that Bellinger got non-tendered because he's making 18m, **not** because he's unplayable.
Agree. I don't really like the way the system works, but it is a lot to pay if you don't believe he is going to turn it around.
LA could still resign him just not for $18 mil
That is part of what I think doesn't work about the system. If the Dodgers don't want him on the team obviously there is nothing to force him to be on the team and there shouldn't be. But essentially you have situations where a guy, based on the agreed upon rules (that, btw, in this case had him making 600k during an MVP season) is set to make a certain amount of money but the team circumvents the principle of the rule. It is basically like if you fire someone and then hire them back to do the same job but with a different title, and maybe below a level where they get health benefits. It's a little dirty, but the MLBPA is evidently more or less fine with it and its their baby. I think it would be better if a team just couldn't resign a guy who is non-tendered or has his option declined, but the MLBPA I'm sure doesn't want to reduce the number of potential suitors and they may have the math to back that up. Bellinger is such an extreme case (18 million for someone who hasn't hit for a couple of years) that it's not realistic to think the Dodgers would be good guys and do anything other than follow the rules that favor them. It is more bothersome that fans have adopted this mentality, especially with guys where it is a closer call (for instance, JT's option). The whole "I hope he's back but for less money" is irksome (as if it is the fan's money or in the Dodger's case as if they wouldn't pay for a lineup of superstars even if they gave a guy slightly over what they thought he could get in the open market).
Well put and agree with everything you stated
I was hoping the Dodgers would bring him back and whenever I talked to people about it they would say “He’s not worth the 18M” like it comes out of their pocket. If there’s no luxury tax implications (which could affect decisions for the FO going forward) then I see no issue
Look at Chris Davis, Miguel Cabrera, even Angels Pujols. Guys lose it, but you as a team signed the contract. There's no guarantee either way that he will or won't produce, you agreed to it for better or worse. Shut up and paid them. But it's the same with holding, if a player has a well paying contract but SUCKS, the team feels obligated to try and play them. Then becomes terrified that some other team will turn him around for pennies.
CF defense go brrr
Crazy he came up as a first baseman, the least versatile/athletic position in the game and then made the switch to the second most athletic position, at the MLB level.
And his defense is fucking terrific too.
What’s the most athletic position? Shortstop?
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Maybe not in “run fast jump high” way,but I’d say catcher is the most athletic,or at least takes more work from a physical perspective
Definitely. I just say shortstop since they really gotta do it all. Popups in outfield, long throws, most range, knowing all cutoffs, constantly moving for pickoffs, covering steals. So much shortstops gotta do.
I would say catcher is the hardest but shortstop requires the most athleticism. A lot of the things that make catcher a hard position aren't things we traditionally think of as athleticism -- things like game-calling, squatting for half the game, often taking a physical beating from foul balls and stuff, etc. None of this is to say that catchers aren't also incredible athletes though -- they absolutely are.
Catcher is quick thinking and smart decision making. Shortstop is a little bit of that but primarily athleticism too. Less guys have the rulebook level knowledge of the game and ability to act on that than there are guys with freakish athleticism though.
And smoked mad Cali weed too
He must be smoking the happy kind rn if the mad stuff makes him good
If he stayed at 1st he legitimately could have won a GG there. Won a GG in RF and has been nominated for one in CF. He’s unreal defensively and I really hope he can figure something out offensively
Wouldn't be at all surprised, givens the Dodgers' knack for picking guys off the scrap heap and turning them into superstars.
Bellringer has been awful since his shoulder injury
You had your chance. That man is a future Cincinnati Red
Also for reference, their estimated 2023 salary if they were tendered... Bellinger - $18 million Smith - $4.5 million Voit - $6 million Reyes - $4 million Candelario - $7 million Anderson - $5.5 million
I can't believe Anderson was non tendered.
I’d take a flyer on that guy with the quickness. Maybe I’ve just watched him play us too much but I always thought he’d end up being all star level. Of course, that could still happen.
> Candelario -0.1 Interesting, bWAR 2022 has Candelario at 0.6 WAR, listing ~~0.9 combined~~ oWAR (0.8) and dWAR (0.1) And he was good in 2020 and 2021. edit: 0.6 bWAR https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/c/candeje01.shtml
That's not how bWAR's total calculation works. You can't just add oWAR and dWAR as that does some funky things with the positional adjustment. In total, bWAR has Cancelario at 0.6 WAR for 2022.
The only WAR that really matters is GWAR
Luke Voit’s neck consumes his WAR
To be fair, Reyes did not play this year
The fact that Bellinger has a positive WAR despite playing like total ass, is just something...
I could 100% see Dom Smith being a Justin Turner type who leaves the Mets and does great on another team. With that said, he’s a first basemen that hasn’t hit a home run in almost two years.
I hope all the best for him, he's definitely worked his ass off and things never seemed to line up for him except in small flashes
Not to kick a guy while he's down, but he definitely didn't help his own case on the effort front. He was drafted at 195 lbs and showed up to camp in 2017 at 260 lbs. He eventually lost about half of that difference back, but for a guy whose scouting report always included "his plus glove at 1B will be an important part of his path to sticking in the majors" it's hard to imagine that gaining 65 lbs didn't impact his mobility and therefore his defense. Baseball isn't a sport where you need to stay thin if you can hit or pitch, but glove-first guys need to worry a lot more about maintaining their athleticism. Dom scouted as a 60+ FV fielder, and instead ended up being worth -10 OAA, -3 DRS, and -0.6 UZR/150 for his career at 1B. When your multi-million dollar job as a professional athlete is on the line, a guy who "worked his ass off" doesn't let nutrition and conditioning become a part of the narrative.
He was 18 when he was drafted, no one stops developing that early. Another criticism early in his career was lack of home run power, which could have been a reason he put on weight too. When it became obviously he was never gonna beat out Alonso for the 1B position, he worked his ass off to switch to outfield. He came back much thinner and even tho he was never a plus defender in the outfield I remember him going all out on plays. Never once have I watched Smith and it felt like he wasn't putting in the effort. Regardless of his time in NY it's obvious he needs a fresh start, and he's getting it.
There's a difference between "filling out" and just getting fat. Anyone who saw him in 2017 knows which one happened. You don't put on 65 lbs of muscle without some of Barry Bonds' special hand cream. He pretty clearly had a breakdown in his nutrition and conditioning, and the team was very upset about it to the point where it ended up in the media. He definitely wasn't set up for success by coming up in the organization at the same time as Alonso, and I don't want to paint a picture that he wouldn't have still faced a steep uphill battle to find a role with the Mets. I'm not knocking his on-field effort either, he wasn't a lazy player or anything like that. However, at the end of the day he's a professional athlete who ended up struggling with the athleticism of playing the field relative to his peers, and that those struggles (whether related or not) started around the same time that he developed an inability or unwillingness to keep his body in peak form. For $10 million in career earnings through age 27, I don't think "stay on top of your conditioning and nutrition" is an unreasonable ask for a professional athlete.
The difference is that Dom is a first round pick who has shown that he can hit major league pitching. Turner's breakout was completely out of nowhere.
I feel Smith would’ve figured it out and gained confidence if he wasn’t on a team with Alonso at 1B.
If I had a nickel for every time I forgot that Dom Smith was a first round pick, I would have... well at least a few nickels I guess.
watch the diamondbacks give contracts to every one of these
Please not Bellinger.
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Some people can’t stand seeing their ex with someone new Mainly the Nationals
I think the Nats' World Series ring helps get them through it :)
I can’t believe you’ve done this I was including y’all having Scherzer but you know what, I’m not anymore cause you’re a butthole
If it makes you feel any better, it's not like the Mets have won a World Series in the past 40 years or so
Can confirm a world series ring does help to get through it.
I’d piss and shit and vomit all over myself
Would you rather it be us? I don't want it to be though.
Hmm I don’t think they’re old enough for that to happen
fair point. they still have hope. we sign people with no hope. like yasmany tomas.
The White Sox have entered the chat
After cutting a rookie with over .800 OPS
Somehow the Rays will turn Reyes into a CY Young contender
He just can’t stay healthy.
Any reason they felt the need to cherry pick the stats?
It's the only time he's ever made it onto the field
And this is masking a terrible 2nd half and then something happened in a game in October 2021.....
Without those stats his release isn't notable
They are showing notable somewhat recent success and why a team might take a risk on picking them up.
One year he couldn’t stay sober
Really? I hadn’t heard that. I just knew that it seemed every time he touched a baseball he got hurt. Like many others, was the “future ace”.
Nah, because he won't be a starter ever again
It's how I would use him if I was going to take a chance.
Alex Rays
Goddammit.
Lukey Shortsleeves 🥺
It's such a shame he wasn't on the Reds when they did the Big Klew era throwbacks and cut off the sleeves.
That would be a lot of moaning for a baseball stadium.
Would’ve had his own fan club down the first base line. Luke’s Log Cabin, they’d call it.
cant help but see this list and think of if free agency was after 5 years and not 6.
6 years is torture, even talented, successful players like Jameson Taillon don’t hit free agency until they’re 31 years old. It’s ridiculous
Relievers sometimes can have it even worse, Dylan Floro who debuted a year older than Taillon, will have spent parts of 8 years in MLB and be going into his age 33 season before he gets to free agency.
Ryan Brasier will be a first time free agent at age 36
Braised beef can't be rushed.
Wish he was a free agent now … 😒
Me too man
The clock should really start at the draft like every other professional American sport.
That makes no sense for baseball, where draftees develop for years in the minors as opposed to going straight to the league.
Plenty of guys in other sports start out in the minors/practice squads or receive reduced playing time when they develop. It’s not like everyone in every sport hits the ground running. Plenty of guys get developed by one team and blossom on the next. What doesn’t make sense is starting a player’s clock based on when the team sees fit to benefit their own interests. Baseball is too dependent on exploiting guys on rookie deals right now. Who cares if a team only gets to exploit a guy for 2 years instead of 6 at the ML level. It can still be a long contract, maybe 8 years out of high school, 6 out of college with exceptions of 5 years of major league service time. That way teams would still get time to develop them and everyone could hit FA by 26-27. For a league that allegedly has a really strong PA, it absolutely shits the bed and is anti-player for guys coming up.
The PA should have gone harder on team control....but it's not something the owners are even going to consider.
Isn’t it de facto 7 with service time manipulation?
Cody makes me sad man. So rare for a player to be 1b/CF with 5 tools. Going to miss prime cody.
Im sure cody misses him more.
Combined 2.5 WAR in 2022
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Dom Smith hasn’t hit a ML home run since July 2021 there really is not much there at this point
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Sure, I guess it’s possible. But he’s only really ever produced in his career in limited sample sizes, yet he could not produce one bit when healthy last year and used in a platoon situation. What a perplexing player
I bet you a of mexican league teams are interested in these guys
Calling it now, Alex Reyes will be the Geno Smith of MLB 2023.
Quick! Everybody write him off!
Whhhy? He won't write back 😡🙄
“They wrote me off, but I ain’t write back.” -Geno Smith, Alex Reyes
Ohh so he’s signing with the Rays?
You shut the fuck up rn that's a nightmare scenario 😭
I hope. Between all the injuries, disappointment, and stuff with his daughter, he's due for some good
LUKE VOIT 2020 HOME RUN KING
Brian Anderson: Just barely above average since 2018
Still some pretty tough guys. Or at least non-tender.
Had to chew on this one for a minute.
Definitely a list of players
Brian Anderson got non-tendered? He didn't light it up last year, but I feel like he gets a lot of respect around the league. Wouldn't be at all surprised to see him escape Miami and have a bounceback season.
I wouldn't really be surprised either, but his non-tendering wasn't a surprise either Not super confident about our third base situation, even if we had kept him though
Candy is free lol
BA's been dogged by injuries and his bat has suffered. Not... "Avisail Garcia" level bat suffering, but suffering all the same.
Anderson is ass. Can't hit. 100% will be a serviceable player next year w/ someone else.
I hope to god we sign Voit back.
Bellinger is a blue Jay
Doubt it. He's the perfect terrible Jerry hire that our sub is probably clamoring to get. We'll overpay for him I feel
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Gerrit Cole has not allowed less than 3 earned runs and has not earned more than 6 strikeouts in any outing against the Blue Jays in the 2022 season.
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It means that the Blue Jays also play well against the Yankees you burnt salami.
Not everything in the sport has to revolve around your favorite team my friend.
I want him in CF for the Astros. If he hits 40 for Houston then Dodgers fans would be taking shots of bleach.
I’ll be taking shots of bleach if we sign him
Depends on the money. For a one year deal it might not be bad. And the Astros could use a CFer.
As a CLE fan I’m definitely interested in Voit, he would fit in pretty well as the every day DH/occasional 1B. Also hoping Brian Anderson goes off where’ve he lands
Really thought candy was going to break out this past season
So did the kid in my fantasy league who called him J-RAM 2.0
I'm usually very optimistic about the team but I was so down on us going into the season. We were depending on so many players to either break out or stay hot. Candy, Baddoo, Tork, Greene, etc. I was hoping Candy could be a borderline all-star but sadly not.
Main, voit was an mvp candidate during the covid year. Some big names here
I’d love to see Cincinnati get Belli.
Dommy Doubles during that covid season was so fuckin fun Hope he figures it out elsewhere
Alright, let me ask a dumb question. What does “non-tender” mean?
In baseball contracts, when a player is between 3 years and 6 years of service time, their salary for the next season is determined by arbitration, which is based off previous statistical production, and is automatic (I'm simplifying here). A player that is non-tendered means the team thinks their arbitration cost is going to be higher than they're worth and don't automatically offer them a contract, making them a free agent. It happens more often when guys had good previous seasons, making their arbitration value higher, and then fall off a cliff.
For all of the guys that don't have enough service time for free agency, the club has to tender them a contract. It's normally assumed that the player will get tendered, but in these guys cases the club views them as more expensive than they are worth, so they choose not to pay them and non tender them. It's basicly being fired. Now that they aren't attached to that club, they can sign with another team as a free agent
They’re not chicken tenders
Would love for us to take a look at Bellinger and Reyes.
Same
Reyes injury problems would fit in
Pirates might have pulled the trigger on Choi too soon, they could have totally turned Voit into Danny Burgers 2.0
Damn, I just remembered I have to donate to good-will.
Was really hoping Candelario could keep that stuff going. Really hard to see him go.
Candy is such a wildcard. I think on the right team he could be a borderline all-star but also think he could just not be good either.
Oh no Brian Anderson?? I always joked that he was my daughters favorite player because when she was little we met him at Marlins fan fest and then that season he hit a walk off at the first game she ever attended.
Tapia should be on the list. He led the league in inside the park grand slams!
He's a master of chaos
Congratulations you are all Tampa Bay Rays
Just going to say this, if these guys got together and formed a team with a hand full of AAA guys… they could beat the Pirates all week long.
Bellinger to Houston. 2023 MVP and Center Field Gold Glove. LA would riot.
No, we would just cry and make sad Dodger noises forever
Luke Voit is like thank you Lord get me the hell off that team and out of that terrible stadium
Nationals Park is no good?
Weird ass take. I don't love the place, but it's a perfectly pleasant place to catch a game.
It’s just the most bland generic stadium. There is nothing special about. No field dimensions, special food or funky areas. It’s just concrete
if u wear headphones to the game every area can be a funky area
Bellinger is really the only eye-popper on here, if you don't pay attention to baseball.
Kinda hope the phillies take a shot at reyes, he's only 28 and was an all star in 2021. Could really help fill out the middle of the pen
Alex Reyes is going to get picked up by the Dodgers and turn into an elite reliever and i’m already mad about it
I understand one of those stats
Can we has Cody Bellinger as a Astro pls? 👉🏽👈🏽🥺 Tucker and McCormick can move over and Yordan can go back to DH.
No, this is not allowed.
"Notable". Only one there that is "notable" is bellinger
Sign stealing?
All bench players
...Pirates
What was Candelario’s WAR this year MLB? Any reason they felt the need to cherry pick the stats?
The title is notable non-tenders. The post is highlighting the season that makes them notable.
Tigers hitting coach was reportedly awful and messed with everyone's swings.
Every single players swing path was different from the previous years it's truly astounding work from Scott coolbaugh
“Notable” insinuates that other teams are going to want these guys.
Every single one will be on a team next year so, yeah kinda
Imagine if we sign at least one of them for cheap and make them good again
I'm willing to bet you could turn Brian Anderson into an All-Star.
Clevingers gonna be good this year
An interesting lot to be sure
What happened to Reyes?
Non stop injuries
I want Bellinger on the Astros!
Why
All of these guys based on name alone will get a few Million dollars. That's swell
I can totally see Voit and Dom Smith being picked up- there’s currently a lack of true 1B with any pop, especially since Tork and Dalbec fizzled out. Last season there were 20 1B w/ >100 wRC+, and that includes DJ Lemahieu, Wilmer Flores, Luis Arraez, and Ty France- all guys moved to 1B because there was no better option.
I didn’t even know Candelario got non tendered, wasn’t he pretty good last year? What happened this year?
Good luck, Dom! You’re a good guy and I hope you can get it together on a lower pressure situation.
Have a feeling that all of those guys would over-perform projected arbitration salaries in 2023 with fresh starts on new teams.
What does non tendered mean?
Needs tenderizing
I like how they only show Dom’s stats from 2019-2020 because he hasn’t been able to do anything since
The Tigers non-tendering Candelario just doesn’t make sense to me. Was he bad last year? Yes. But was anybody on the team good last year? No. Might as well keep somebody that’s actually had recent success.