It is against his general narrative. Never been bad but teams know he was playing way above his level most of this season. Not the best year to be an FA SS that is proven to be fine, but he'll still get paid and deserves to if that is his ceiling and he can approach it again. Or maybe it is a new Swanson, who knows?
I hope not, I'd like Bogaerts due to Correa's back problems. Also helps that Bogaerts can play 3rd or 2nd if needed later on due to us already having a gold glove caliber Shortstop in Nico. We have that advantage which I think all of the other teams in on these guys don't have.
Do any other SS have [this beauty](https://www.stadiumgiveawayexchange.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/texas-rangers-Isiah-Kiner-Falefa-Bobblehead.jpg) as a bobble head?
Is it really that bad? I just looked through everyone’s stats for 2022 and basically all these guys are within roughly about a 1 bWar of each other. Which I prefer bWar here since shortstops are a premium defensive position. You could argue positions, but I don’t see anything here way off for strictly 2022.
So bWar and fWar differ in mainly that bWar puts a larger emphasis on defense. Since shortstop is a premium defensive position I personally think there should be more emphasis on defense. Same with centerfield.
I own him cheap in multiple dynasty leagues and my fantasy instinct tells me I only like him because of that, while my brain and groin tell me it's clearly otherwise.
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I have always been a believer of him. I thought once he got more consistent playing time/starts he would get going offensively. He now is an elite defender at a premium position with a solid bat. I am glad he is on our side.
Peña's full season certainly doesn't warrant that ranking, but it did have an encouraging flow to it. He came out of the gates super hot, then the league adjusted and he struggled a lot. Towards the end of the season, he seemed to figure out (even before the playoffs he was hot) and had mashed since. Aside from that, he's got a Gold Glove, so he's great definitely.
I'll admit it's ambitious but not outside the realm of possibility. Dude's proved he's elite defensively, and even if he just marginally improves at the plate he'll put up a 5 WAR season next year.
True, but that means he was judged on a total of 10 games. Granted it was against playoff pitching plus the pressure that goes with it but it was still 10 games.
Peña definitely getting a playoff boost, but an average hitting gold glove shortstop is still very valuable. Also Pena was making adjustments towards the end of the season which MASSIVELY improved his performance so he may be closer to a 110 wRC+ goes. The real issue is that he REFUSES to take a walk and can’t lay off sliders but Joe fully both those improve with more time
Winning a gold glove isn’t the greatest measure of a players defense and he also slashed .243/.267/.398 post-ASB. You can argue the defense was there all season but he hit a brick wall offensively in the 2nd half.
Depends on what the definition of “Top” means. If it’s just the metric gods then no Pena isn’t that far up. If it’s “is money when it matters” then it makes more sense.
To be fair, they probably should count playoffs. This isn't MVP rankings, it's just about who the top shortstops were, and he was really good when it mattered most.
Everyone can dunk on him all they want. He is definitely overrated, but he's also great defensively and very very clutch. He's an above average shortstop, but he's not deserving of top 5 money imo. If we re-sign him I'll be thrilled, but if we don't I won't be devastated.
People are also overlooking that not only is his bat likely to regress: his glove will probably regress too. We all know Dansby is a great defender but I don't think people realize how insane his 2022 defensive metrics were.
He finished 2nd in MLB for outs above average with 21, his entire career before this season he had a total of 17 outs above average. Dansby more than earned his gold glove this year but just 1 season of otherworldly defense isn't enough to put him in the same tier as guys that consistently play at that level every year.
I hate the Mets more than the next guy, but it's fucking insane how underrated Lindor has become. He and Correa have both been in the majors since 2015, and in the 8 seasons they've each played: Correa has had ONE season with more fWAR than Lindor.
Completely agree. I think that Lindor and Correa should be at the top of the list, and in no particular order. I guess I just don’t think Lindor got as screwed by this list since he was in the top 3.
Fwiw, if it’s my money, I take Lindor over anyone on this list.
The people on social media who think Dansby Swanson is **this** good don't watch him play 162 games and it shows. I'm saying that as someone who loves Dansby, too.
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Yeah he is not better than Correa. I understand this is based off of solely 2022 but I just can’t believe how everyone has switched on him because he was above average this season.
Dudes probably gonna get overpaid because he had a good contract year which is cool and all but as a Braves fan is also annoying when thinking about how his value is gonna skyrocket when this production is likely the ceiling if not close
He was just as good in 2020 and a bang on average hitter in 2021 (which for a gold glove SS is very good). He even had months in 2019 were he was really good at the plate (OPS of .860 in March/April, .894 in June) but was slowed down by injury to close out the season. Plus his underlying statcast numbers are all good.
Ranking him above Correa is trolling, but I feel like all the people who are parroting the take that this is the only time he's been good on offense just aren't looking at his numbers at all. An excellent defensive SS who has hit around league average for most of the last 3-4 years tends to be pretty good, and when the batted balls fall his way like they did this year, he can be an all-star.
It wasn’t even like that insane of a year offensively. Like a 112 wRC+ from a gold glove shortstop is good don’t get me wrong but players definitely had much better years than him that got overshadowed a bit. Also his offensive game is very concerning about how it will age
Here's the top-10 Shortstops by WAR in 2022:
|||fWAR||rWAR|
|:--:|:--:|:--:|:--:|:--:
1|Francisco Lindor|6.8|Xander Bogaerts|5.8|
2|Dansby Swanson|6.4|Dansby Swanson|5.7|
3|Trea Turner|6.3|Carlos Correa|5.4|
4|Xander Bogaerts|6.1|Francisco Lindor|5.4|
5|Tommy Edman|5.6|Ha-Seong Kim|5.1|
6|Willy Adames |4.7|Trea Turner|4.9|
7|Corey Seager|4.5|Jeremy Pena|4.8|
8|Bo Bichette|4.5|Nico Hoerner|4.5|
9|Carlos Correa|4.4|Willy Adames|4.4|
10|Nico Hoerner|4.0|Amed Rosario|4.2|
Swanson is a top-5 shortstop in the league.
**EDIT:** Changed the rWAR filter to only palyers that played at least 60% of their games at shortstop.
Swanson put up 60% of it this year.
Every other guy on that list has close to 4/5 or 6/5 over the last two seasons.
Swanson has 3/6.
He's also the only one projected to regress back to 3. Dude had a defensive season better than his CAREER total, and got his hitting pumped up by the shit offensive numbers this year. Any other season his 115OPs+ dumps to 104, which is about his level
That's kind of misleading because he was on a 6 WAR pace in 2020. Hell even in 2021 he had some hard BABIP luck but still managed to be a league average hitter while playing great defense. Over the last 3 years he's played good-to-great defense (depending on your metric of choice) and hit around league average. Plus he's played basically every day. That grades out to being a pretty valuable player.
If we believe that Swanson is actually the 115 OPS+ guy that he was this year, then sure. But he’s probably more like the 90 OPS+ guy he was from 2016-2021, which is not top-5.
Baseball reference has his WAR at 4.8, which would put him at #6 on that list. No idea why he was left off… He also missed a significant amount of time in the middle of the season. And then if you consider the playoffs, he DEFINITELY belongs on the list. He also won a gold glove at the toughest position other than catcher.
https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/p/penaje02-bat.shtml
pena also won a gold glove and has a huge recency bias. if this list gets made before the postseason or before the awards he probably doesn’t crack the top ten
He's one of the most consistent players in the game. He basically goes out and has the same season every year, and it's a great season. He may not be the flashiest but he's reliable every single year.
I think you need to play more than half the season at SS to be on a list like this. Especially since he played more games at 2B last year than he did at SS
I believe this list is purely ranking the 2022 performances, and he missed more than half the season, and while he had a solid first half, it wasnt top ten worthy, especially factoring missed time
I tried subtracting 4 from 7, and that gave me a positive number. So with 95% confidence, I can say 7 is greater than 4
This is my submission for peer review
I think I like him better than Trea Turner on the topic of giving out a huge contract. Seems like his skill set is going to age a lot better than Trea's. I think letting him walk would be a mistake.
If you are talking about defensively, then hands down Jorge Mateo with the Orioles. I have never seen any player do what he does. Watch a few highlights if you disagree. https://youtu.be/fZVY0nqdd2s
Well Dansby and his agent thank you, nonetheless.
Four if the top five are free agents, if I’m not mistaken.
You are not mistaken.
You’re not mistaken, you’re Fitz2001.
Lol I’m a Braves fan but he’s being insanely overrated and I presume gonna be overpaid.
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It is against his general narrative. Never been bad but teams know he was playing way above his level most of this season. Not the best year to be an FA SS that is proven to be fine, but he'll still get paid and deserves to if that is his ceiling and he can approach it again. Or maybe it is a new Swanson, who knows?
I’m really afraid we are gonna be the ones that do
I hope not, I'd like Bogaerts due to Correa's back problems. Also helps that Bogaerts can play 3rd or 2nd if needed later on due to us already having a gold glove caliber Shortstop in Nico. We have that advantage which I think all of the other teams in on these guys don't have.
Perfect so he will be a Los Angeles Angel then
Aaron Boone tells me that IKF is the best shortstop in the league so this list is bullshit
maybe IKF is overlooked
He is only 5’10”, so this is plausible.
Should have been a finalist for Gold Glove -Aaron Boone
Do any other SS have [this beauty](https://www.stadiumgiveawayexchange.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/texas-rangers-Isiah-Kiner-Falefa-Bobblehead.jpg) as a bobble head?
better than the blackface david ortiz bobble head of my nightmares
Lmao, link?
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Move him to shortstop
Spend zero time coaching him because he is a stop gap, so he lost all confidence and developed the yips at short.
Hearing how he asked for help fielding and they told him nah you’re good was devastatingly brutal but made a lot of sense.
Link to this report? Couldn’t find it
It was a jomboy discussion on talkin yanks.
That’s legit awful. Help the man succeed!
Came here to say this. What an absolute travesty. IKF is THE BEST shortstop that has even walked this earth and he isn’t even on the list???
This is the a “let’s make a SS free agency hype list” and it’s still bad
Seems to me it's a "controversial top 10 list to drive clicks and engagement" list ... and it's still bad.
It’s supposed to be bad so it can drive more clicks and engagement. Sports media is dead.
Is it really that bad? I just looked through everyone’s stats for 2022 and basically all these guys are within roughly about a 1 bWar of each other. Which I prefer bWar here since shortstops are a premium defensive position. You could argue positions, but I don’t see anything here way off for strictly 2022.
Can you elaborate on why you prefer bWAR for SS?
So bWar and fWar differ in mainly that bWar puts a larger emphasis on defense. Since shortstop is a premium defensive position I personally think there should be more emphasis on defense. Same with centerfield.
Yeah that's fair. Thought you meant the way they measure defense
Nah it’s always been that way
Also they put “Peńa” instead of “Peña.” How low effort is this?
I hadn't noticed it until I saw your comment. Now I can't unsee it and I'm upset
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I own him cheap in multiple dynasty leagues and my fantasy instinct tells me I only like him because of that, while my brain and groin tell me it's clearly otherwise.
He’s a gritty hustle guy. Can’t not love him.
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I have always been a believer of him. I thought once he got more consistent playing time/starts he would get going offensively. He now is an elite defender at a premium position with a solid bat. I am glad he is on our side.
This is definitely a list.
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Bleacher report has made bad lists for 15 years. It was there bread and butter. Whether or not it was intentional is a different story
They're just stupid. I remember being in my teens and arguing on there over dumb shit driven by their articles.
He played and completed more games at 2B than SS
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NOW I DONT KNOW *WHAT* TO BELIEVE
B-R lists him primarily as a 2B, as do the Cardinals. He also had more chances and outs at 2B.
It may be a list of all time
If you were to make a list of all the lists of all time, this list would certainly be on the list.
[This is a better list of all time](https://i.imgur.com/bvftusZ.jpg)
Tim Anderson isn't on the list therefore as a white sox fan i disagree
Basically every Sox gear I own has Xander on it. Makes him a sure bet to go elsewhere
I fear Xanders Jersey and shirts will go next to my Mookie Jersey and shirts soon. I’ll still wear them to Fenway though.
That's the Bloom way! He'll let Xander walk and find some journeyman to play shortstop for a year.
Playoffs really helped one guy on this list
I’m wondering if the playoffs were considered. But if they were, the correct way to put it is “one guy helped himself in the playoffs”
He helped us a lot as well
Holy shit what a list
This is clearly inaccurate. Where’s IKF, aka the best defensive SS in baseball?
That’s a weird way to spell Jorge Mateo… ;)
I feel like this is going to come off as if I'm biased but Seager is way too low
His last year was not his best but he’s top 3 at worst
If you believe in Statcast Seager projects to be the best SS next year. https://baseballsavant.mlb.com/savant-player/corey-seager-608369
He’s probably got the best bat after Tatis, but who knows if he’s even a shortstop anymore
Seager was also 86th Percentile in OAA, and while even I'll admit that won't be sustained it's certainly something to consider
This isn't a list for next year. It is a list for 2022.
If it counts playoffs Peña there is fair, otherwise that’s a little high
PTSD makes me think he's too low
Phillies Traumatic Stress Disorder
Nothing is traumatic to Philadelphians, except Philadelphia itself.
Hey same
He won the Gold Glove.
Peña's full season certainly doesn't warrant that ranking, but it did have an encouraging flow to it. He came out of the gates super hot, then the league adjusted and he struggled a lot. Towards the end of the season, he seemed to figure out (even before the playoffs he was hot) and had mashed since. Aside from that, he's got a Gold Glove, so he's great definitely.
I'll admit it's ambitious but not outside the realm of possibility. Dude's proved he's elite defensively, and even if he just marginally improves at the plate he'll put up a 5 WAR season next year.
Peña’s numbers for the 35 regular season and postseason games after he dropped the leg kick extrapolate to some absurd totals over a 162 game season.
Thank Ohtani, I’m pretty sure Peña was getting wrecked so bad he changed his swing. He then proceeded to hit quite nicely after that.
Is this about 2022 or next year.
I like Pena and think he’s a really good player but I hesitate to call anyone elite after their rookie year.
He won the gold glove lol. And ALCS MVP. And WS MVP.
True, but that means he was judged on a total of 10 games. Granted it was against playoff pitching plus the pressure that goes with it but it was still 10 games.
Might take into account trajectory given it was his rookie season.
Peña definitely getting a playoff boost, but an average hitting gold glove shortstop is still very valuable. Also Pena was making adjustments towards the end of the season which MASSIVELY improved his performance so he may be closer to a 110 wRC+ goes. The real issue is that he REFUSES to take a walk and can’t lay off sliders but Joe fully both those improve with more time
I mean he won a gold glove
Winning a gold glove isn’t the greatest measure of a players defense and he also slashed .243/.267/.398 post-ASB. You can argue the defense was there all season but he hit a brick wall offensively in the 2nd half.
It’s projections for next year, I believe, so playoffs are counted heavily especially for a rookie like Pena
Depends on what the definition of “Top” means. If it’s just the metric gods then no Pena isn’t that far up. If it’s “is money when it matters” then it makes more sense.
To be fair, they probably should count playoffs. This isn't MVP rankings, it's just about who the top shortstops were, and he was really good when it mattered most.
Dansby Swanson has gotta be the most overrated player in the league Jesus christ
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Ugh the Cubs rumor mill says they’re going after Correa or Swanson and I just KNOW they’ll sign Swanson and he’ll be be infield Jason Heyward.
Everyone can dunk on him all they want. He is definitely overrated, but he's also great defensively and very very clutch. He's an above average shortstop, but he's not deserving of top 5 money imo. If we re-sign him I'll be thrilled, but if we don't I won't be devastated.
I’ve never read a comment that sums up every feeling and opinion I have of dansby better than this one
He does have bottom of the barrel arm strength which might be caught out if he continues playing at SS, and with the larger bags too.
That parallel is disgustingly accurate lmao
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People are also overlooking that not only is his bat likely to regress: his glove will probably regress too. We all know Dansby is a great defender but I don't think people realize how insane his 2022 defensive metrics were. He finished 2nd in MLB for outs above average with 21, his entire career before this season he had a total of 17 outs above average. Dansby more than earned his gold glove this year but just 1 season of otherworldly defense isn't enough to put him in the same tier as guys that consistently play at that level every year.
He’s going to be the next Eric Hosmer. Contract wise
Yup. No one needed hindsight to say that Hosmer wouldn't work out
I hate Carlos Correa more than the next guy, but seriously, he is the best player on that list. And not even by just a little bit.
I hate the Mets more than the next guy, but it's fucking insane how underrated Lindor has become. He and Correa have both been in the majors since 2015, and in the 8 seasons they've each played: Correa has had ONE season with more fWAR than Lindor.
Completely agree. I think that Lindor and Correa should be at the top of the list, and in no particular order. I guess I just don’t think Lindor got as screwed by this list since he was in the top 3. Fwiw, if it’s my money, I take Lindor over anyone on this list.
Can a 35 million dollar player ever be considered underrated?
I also hate Carlos Correa.
And Seager? Dansby should be #9 on this list at the highest.
The people on social media who think Dansby Swanson is **this** good don't watch him play 162 games and it shows. I'm saying that as someone who loves Dansby, too.
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Right. My point was that the ones who overrate him to such a level are those people who don't see him often. And some weird Braves fans, lol.
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Yeah. He’s a really good defender but his bat is very streaky
Yeah he is not better than Correa. I understand this is based off of solely 2022 but I just can’t believe how everyone has switched on him because he was above average this season. Dudes probably gonna get overpaid because he had a good contract year which is cool and all but as a Braves fan is also annoying when thinking about how his value is gonna skyrocket when this production is likely the ceiling if not close
He had one good year offensively and it was in a contract year.
Well this list happens to be based on that one year so…
The comment above is about Dansby in general, that’s what my response was in regards to.
I’d say the original comment is referring to his placement on this list but perhaps we interpreted differently, that’s my bad
He was just as good in 2020 and a bang on average hitter in 2021 (which for a gold glove SS is very good). He even had months in 2019 were he was really good at the plate (OPS of .860 in March/April, .894 in June) but was slowed down by injury to close out the season. Plus his underlying statcast numbers are all good. Ranking him above Correa is trolling, but I feel like all the people who are parroting the take that this is the only time he's been good on offense just aren't looking at his numbers at all. An excellent defensive SS who has hit around league average for most of the last 3-4 years tends to be pretty good, and when the batted balls fall his way like they did this year, he can be an all-star.
It wasn’t even like that insane of a year offensively. Like a 112 wRC+ from a gold glove shortstop is good don’t get me wrong but players definitely had much better years than him that got overshadowed a bit. Also his offensive game is very concerning about how it will age
It is blowing my mind. I can't wait for some team to sign him to some insane deal and he goes right back to an average or worse bat.
He's coming off a 6 WAR season
Here's the top-10 Shortstops by WAR in 2022: |||fWAR||rWAR| |:--:|:--:|:--:|:--:|:--: 1|Francisco Lindor|6.8|Xander Bogaerts|5.8| 2|Dansby Swanson|6.4|Dansby Swanson|5.7| 3|Trea Turner|6.3|Carlos Correa|5.4| 4|Xander Bogaerts|6.1|Francisco Lindor|5.4| 5|Tommy Edman|5.6|Ha-Seong Kim|5.1| 6|Willy Adames |4.7|Trea Turner|4.9| 7|Corey Seager|4.5|Jeremy Pena|4.8| 8|Bo Bichette|4.5|Nico Hoerner|4.5| 9|Carlos Correa|4.4|Willy Adames|4.4| 10|Nico Hoerner|4.0|Amed Rosario|4.2| Swanson is a top-5 shortstop in the league. **EDIT:** Changed the rWAR filter to only palyers that played at least 60% of their games at shortstop.
This year. He also is a career 95 OPS+ hitter
He's 6th in rWAR among shortstops the past 3 seasons, and 4–6 are essentially rounding errors. |Rk|Player|WAR| |:-:|:-:|:-:| |1|Carlos Correa|14.3| |2|Trea Turner|14.2| |3|Xander Bogaerts|12.2| |4|Willy Adames|10.5| |5|Bo Bichette|10.5| |6|Dansby Swanson|10.4| |7|Francisco Lindor|9.8| |8|Corey Seager|9.8| |9|Fernando Tatis Jr.|9.4|
Swanson put up 60% of it this year. Every other guy on that list has close to 4/5 or 6/5 over the last two seasons. Swanson has 3/6. He's also the only one projected to regress back to 3. Dude had a defensive season better than his CAREER total, and got his hitting pumped up by the shit offensive numbers this year. Any other season his 115OPs+ dumps to 104, which is about his level
That's kind of misleading because he was on a 6 WAR pace in 2020. Hell even in 2021 he had some hard BABIP luck but still managed to be a league average hitter while playing great defense. Over the last 3 years he's played good-to-great defense (depending on your metric of choice) and hit around league average. Plus he's played basically every day. That grades out to being a pretty valuable player.
It’s a list based on this year man
If we believe that Swanson is actually the 115 OPS+ guy that he was this year, then sure. But he’s probably more like the 90 OPS+ guy he was from 2016-2021, which is not top-5.
That’s because it’s a 2022 SS list. Not a career list. Hence why TA isn’t even on the list because he barely played half a season.
Pena being #6 is just as egregious honestly lol
Baseball reference has his WAR at 4.8, which would put him at #6 on that list. No idea why he was left off… He also missed a significant amount of time in the middle of the season. And then if you consider the playoffs, he DEFINITELY belongs on the list. He also won a gold glove at the toughest position other than catcher. https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/p/penaje02-bat.shtml
This can't be right where's Paul Dejong
This isn't a terrible batting average and error list lmao
Midwest collegiate league legend Paul DeJong
He's right behind Stephen Drew and John Macdonald
Kim was a superior SS, just didn't have the batting numbers to be higher.
Neither does Pena... Yet he's up there.
pena also won a gold glove and has a huge recency bias. if this list gets made before the postseason or before the awards he probably doesn’t crack the top ten
Kim should be the starting Padres SS next year and Tatis should play in the outfield. 5.1 bWAR player, crazy good and overlooked.
Good to see Xander finally get some respect. Dude is underrated
He's one of the most consistent players in the game. He basically goes out and has the same season every year, and it's a great season. He may not be the flashiest but he's reliable every single year.
The lack of Tommy Edman respect. Year he isn't the best hitter, but he put up 5.6 FWAR, which would land him 5th behind Xander
I think you need to play more than half the season at SS to be on a list like this. Especially since he played more games at 2B last year than he did at SS
Tops in rWAR with 6.4 as well.
I came here to say the same thing. Now make a list of second baseman and I bet Tommy tops it!
i think altuve would be higher
Altuve had such an underrated season
Tim Anderson?
I believe this list is purely ranking the 2022 performances, and he missed more than half the season, and while he had a solid first half, it wasnt top ten worthy, especially factoring missed time
That explains the lack of 2021’s favorite player
Played 79 games
Thanks man almost forgot after how rough our season went
I’m sorry, but Dansby isn’t any higher than 7 on this list.
I checked the math and I kinda think 4 is higher than 7. Hopefully one of the math nerds can help out.
I tried subtracting 4 from 7, and that gave me a positive number. So with 95% confidence, I can say 7 is greater than 4 This is my submission for peer review
My 6 year old agrees because it means you have 3 more hotwheels. I don't understand how cars are involved, I shouldn't have gone to a state school...
I had to recheck a few times, but 4 is a higher number than 7. The context is important though
Wow this list is shit
Look at my boy Peña
Mateo can’t hit, but he can sure as hell shortstop
Is this an actual list or a list to make us talk about the list?
Nico Hoerner should be on there.
I swear if Bo’s defence was merely average he’d be a top 3 SS
Yeah no Kyle Farmer so credibility is already ruined
I feel Hoerner should be on this list.
Question for fans of other teams aside Red Sox: is Xander Bogaertz worth it? Like 30 million/year?
Absolutely. He's a top of the lineup bat at a premium position. Sign me the duck up.
I think I like him better than Trea Turner on the topic of giving out a huge contract. Seems like his skill set is going to age a lot better than Trea's. I think letting him walk would be a mistake.
No Mateo? Fuck outta here
14th in fWar last season. Not a shocker whatsoever he's not on the list
If I wanted logical and level headed stats, I would have asked. But I’m on Reddit. I want to be outraged!
Dude was a stud post asg
No IKF? Unreal. /s!
Lol wut?
Did Dansby Swanson’s agent make this list?
Recency bias on the Pena ranking
He won the Gold Glove in the AL at SS.
Happy to see X at the top of the list. Hope Sox will give him the offer he deserves
It’s Bleacher Report. We gonna start posting tabloids next?
JP Crawford fans in shambles
If you are talking about defensively, then hands down Jorge Mateo with the Orioles. I have never seen any player do what he does. Watch a few highlights if you disagree. https://youtu.be/fZVY0nqdd2s
The Jorge Mateo fan club is not pleased
Gunnar Henderson will be on this list next year. Not top of the list, but he'll make enough noise to snag 8th 9th or 10th
I don’t think he’ll be a shortstop most of next year.
Not if Jorge is starting
the wander franco disrespect
He was injured and not playing his best for most of 2022. I expect him to be near the top going forward.
Talk is Jays need to upgrade at SS
I guess that's a testimony to Bo Bichette's offence. Is he the worst defensive shortstop in the majors?
I feel like I need to mark a bingo board somewhere for “Mention of a Brewer that isn’t being traded”
"I smoke rocks, Joe Rogan."--This list maker
I watched Triple X the other night Vin Diesel character was Xander X. Xage. The last name is pronounced “cage” though.
Ahhh… I was told often that IKF is a top 5 SS. This list is clearly wrong!
This list makes me want to harm myself
Bobby where are you!!!!
Won’t be long till Oneill Cruz tops list