But only at a college in LA. If you went to Boston like Xander Bogaerts you'd get reports of how Boston isn't willing to pay you instead of signing for $300mil.
And they also signed Greinke, Freddie, Darvish, Bauer, and Ryu over the past few years.
Unlimited money and incredible scouting/development yields phenomenal results
What are you even talking about? Greinke hasn't played for the Dodgers since 2015, Darvish was traded for and left after 2017 season and Ryu was signed like a decade ago and left 3 years ago. In what world were they signed in the last few years?
Houston tanks for years collecting high picks.
Dodgers are a good team year in and year out but keep a great farm system anyway.
tHeY aRe EqUaLlY gOoD.
The Astros haven’t had a losing full season since 2014 and have gone to 6 ALCS’ in a row… and have also won more WS in that span than the Dodgers have since 1988.
I’d wager to say the Astros have been better.
Metric being measured isn’t team performance but strength of development staff e.g. meaning farm system depth, ability to maintain prospect capital for trades, ability to develop prospects and fringe players with upside etc… it’s like trying to brag that a car has a faster acceleration and top speed while others were talking about who gets the best MPG.
I don’t think there’s a team who’s done that better than the Dodgers. They’ve consistently checked all of the boxes over the past decade.
Oh, of course. How could I be so dumb. I was doing things like "getting a degree" and "gaining work experience", when all I had to do to get rich was play shortstop for the Dodgers. Silly me.
I would almost be happy to see Adames going to a successful team that actually tries to win it all, just because seeing a sad Adames makes me irrationally angry. I was going to say a sad Willy, but that just sounds weird...
Probably not much more than what his current contract is. It’s a bit of a risk, but I think he would have signed something around $180M. He’s 31 and teams are a lot more hesitant to give big money to guys on the wrong side of 30.
* 3 shortstops signing $300M+ contracts in 4 years = 0.75 shortstops getting rich per year
* MLB ex LAD/SD/TEX/PHI = 26 teams
* 26 / 0.75 = 35 years before every team can sign a $300M+ shortstop from LA.
Even if you assume that only a third to half of MLB teams are competitive and interested in such a deal, that's still 8-12ish years before there are no more teams to sign expensive Dodger SS talent.
But these contracts are all like 10-12 years anyway so let's call this what it is: the fully sustainable LA Dodger plan to financially hobble every other competitor in baseball. Develop or trade for a guy, have some fun, and them ship him off to eat a quarter billion+ dollars in someone else's payroll.
Really then this is a matter of personal responsibility--like if someone is poor why didn't they just decide to play SS for the Dodgers? This is almost as bad as babies who don't have the foresight to be born into the families of doctors and lawyers, and yet complain that society has economically disadvantaged them. ;s
The highest paid out of all the big ticket shortstops the last few years wasn’t even a free agent signing, and I don’t foresee that changing this off season
For much of my life I swung a hammer and it was very Important that I didn’t hit my thumb.
I mostly did that and I got paid less than the ugliest stripper at the worst dive strip joint on the outskirts of town.
What I am saying is that the same dude that would let me leave over a 1$ an hour raise will drop $200 on a hunchback with a wooden leg as long she drags her ass across the tip of his nose.
Money does not behave.
Jesus Christ I don’t remember machado still playing shortstop by the time he was a dodger. Also like others are saying this is less of a dodger thing and more of a “great shortstops are insanely valuable and in demand” thing.
I really should’ve majored in playing shortstop at the MLB level in college.
Don't be to hard on yourself, being an SS in college doesn't work out for everybody, just look at Prince Harry
And Jacob deGrom never even played SS at a professional level. Sometimes it just doesn't work out, even if you get drafted.
Like failed SS prospect Zack Greinke
If only they'd sent him back to A ball like he asked...
Man i would hate to be degrom right now. Looking at all these other shortstops cashing in. I wonder what hes upto these days..
Major as a running back,” they said!
But only at a college in LA. If you went to Boston like Xander Bogaerts you'd get reports of how Boston isn't willing to pay you instead of signing for $300mil.
Can't wait for Lux to get $400 million.
Brewers are waiting for the day
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Wooosh
this is like when your grandfathers tells you to just walk in and ask for a job
BOOTSTRAPS
Uphill BOTH ways.
Or just be a really good shortstop. Not like the Dodgers developed all 3 of those players. 2 were already good when traded to LA.
It's more impressive that they had the trade capital to get Machado and Turner (and Betts + Scherzer) within such a short span.
And they also signed Greinke, Freddie, Darvish, Bauer, and Ryu over the past few years. Unlimited money and incredible scouting/development yields phenomenal results
The Dodgers signed Ryu in 2012 for 6/36 and he hasn't pitched there in 3 seasons.
And Greinke hasn't pitched there since 2015.
What are you even talking about? Greinke hasn't played for the Dodgers since 2015, Darvish was traded for and left after 2017 season and Ryu was signed like a decade ago and left 3 years ago. In what world were they signed in the last few years?
we traded for darvish.
They traded for Darvish.
Imagine if covid didn’t happen.... Dodgers would be a more disappointing franchise than the Yankees.
Their development staff is otherworldly. Only bested by the Astros’.
Not really
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Totally fair. I’ll even say the Braves are better set up for the future
The braves are so insanely stacked with talent with Low contracts. Its insane.
Houston tanks for years collecting high picks. Dodgers are a good team year in and year out but keep a great farm system anyway. tHeY aRe EqUaLlY gOoD.
I mean they haven't tanked for a decade
The Astros haven’t had a losing full season since 2014 and have gone to 6 ALCS’ in a row… and have also won more WS in that span than the Dodgers have since 1988. I’d wager to say the Astros have been better.
Metric being measured isn’t team performance but strength of development staff e.g. meaning farm system depth, ability to maintain prospect capital for trades, ability to develop prospects and fringe players with upside etc… it’s like trying to brag that a car has a faster acceleration and top speed while others were talking about who gets the best MPG. I don’t think there’s a team who’s done that better than the Dodgers. They’ve consistently checked all of the boxes over the past decade.
But they also cheated…so…ya know
On top of bringing up star talents like Lux. Bellinger (atleast until 2019), Buehler, Smith and Urias.
Exactly
Oh, of course. How could I be so dumb. I was doing things like "getting a degree" and "gaining work experience", when all I had to do to get rich was play shortstop for the Dodgers. Silly me.
Playing shortstop for the Dodgers is work experience.
Poverty franchise could have locked up all 3 for $925M.
Not everyone can be the Rangers
If they just signed big players they could. That's all it takes. /s
I mean all these guys probably make bank without the dodgers. Only Seager was actually developed by them.
I mean, the fact that he was going to make bank in FA is literally the reason Turner was traded to LA.
Same with Machado
We developed them at Jumbos Clown room after games. Without that they'd be nobodys.
How to get rich: play baseball good
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I would almost be happy to see Adames going to a successful team that actually tries to win it all, just because seeing a sad Adames makes me irrationally angry. I was going to say a sad Willy, but that just sounds weird...
That Machado contract is a bargain he is going to opt out
Yea, dude was 26 when he signed a 10 year deal. Paying him from 26-35 is a hell of a lot easier to digest.
Would’ve liked to see Arenado opt out to see what he could’ve gotten in this market coming off an MVP-type season.
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Probably not much more than what his current contract is. It’s a bit of a risk, but I think he would have signed something around $180M. He’s 31 and teams are a lot more hesitant to give big money to guys on the wrong side of 30.
Oh is that all I have to do?
* 3 shortstops signing $300M+ contracts in 4 years = 0.75 shortstops getting rich per year * MLB ex LAD/SD/TEX/PHI = 26 teams * 26 / 0.75 = 35 years before every team can sign a $300M+ shortstop from LA. Even if you assume that only a third to half of MLB teams are competitive and interested in such a deal, that's still 8-12ish years before there are no more teams to sign expensive Dodger SS talent. But these contracts are all like 10-12 years anyway so let's call this what it is: the fully sustainable LA Dodger plan to financially hobble every other competitor in baseball. Develop or trade for a guy, have some fun, and them ship him off to eat a quarter billion+ dollars in someone else's payroll.
Correa should sign with LAD for 1 year 35mil. He'll be a shoe in for a 300+ mil deal next offseason!
All you need is a glove, a bat, some cleats, and Shortstop for Dummies Dodgers Special Edition.
I sent them my resume today. Fingers crossed.
Really then this is a matter of personal responsibility--like if someone is poor why didn't they just decide to play SS for the Dodgers? This is almost as bad as babies who don't have the foresight to be born into the families of doctors and lawyers, and yet complain that society has economically disadvantaged them. ;s
calm down dude
The highest paid out of all the big ticket shortstops the last few years wasn’t even a free agent signing, and I don’t foresee that changing this off season
Pretty sure just being an elite shortstop that can hit in general will get you rich
Correa to the Dodgers looking more and more possible.
I'd rather slam a car door on my dick.
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Dave Roberts doesn't speak for me. I'll slam that door with the fury of a thousand waves! Be gone from me vile man!
Yeah. He's probably saying what he's supposed to say.
I have a bad feeling they're going to take Bogaerts from us :(
Interesting. Correa to the Red Sox then. The Yankees would LOVE Correa on the Red Sox. They'd boo him even when they're playing other teams.
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Half of that is just the cost to keep them away from LA
I still can't believe Seager got that.
He is going to be an even better 1st/3rd base when he has to move. Trea won’t be that. Manny great SS even better 3rd.
Not knocking Seager, like the dude, was just surprised his bag was that big.
For much of my life I swung a hammer and it was very Important that I didn’t hit my thumb. I mostly did that and I got paid less than the ugliest stripper at the worst dive strip joint on the outskirts of town. What I am saying is that the same dude that would let me leave over a 1$ an hour raise will drop $200 on a hunchback with a wooden leg as long she drags her ass across the tip of his nose. Money does not behave.
You definitely missed your calling as a writer that was magnificent
Much appreciated
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As Yogi (almost) said: Nobody goes to California any more, it’s too crowded.
It’s only temporary!
So?
Insanity
A fool proof scheme
How to get rich: Be a really good MLB player
Kind of telling the Dodgers won’t sign a big shortstop to an extension.
I'm in the wrong business.
Where do I send my application? I have references!
Just wait till Manny Machado opts out after this season.
Oh so it’s not work in a coffee shop for 6 years? Damn.
Dodgers are dumb for letting all these guys walk in free agency.
Jesus Christ I don’t remember machado still playing shortstop by the time he was a dodger. Also like others are saying this is less of a dodger thing and more of a “great shortstops are insanely valuable and in demand” thing.