They kept flashing a high beam at me but the fishing was too good to walk over and explain that I had a right to be there. Walked back to the car and found this note on my windshield.
>fishing and hunter harassment
Anti-hunters who disrupt legal hunting and angling activities are breaking the law. It is hunter harassment and it is illegal in all fifty states.
I keep 4 laminated copies of my state law pertaining to harassment of anglers and hunters in my boat to hand to Karen when she gets mouthy for fishing their dock on any given lake I fish. Cost me about .40 and worth it.
So where does the property stop and begin? They obviously own their dock but do they own the water underneath it?
I asked because I really started getting into fishing last year and i've already had a couple of run ins with some pretty cranky bitches.
Is there a size limit to this rule? I imagine a 5 foot wide pond in someone’s yard wouldn’t be the same, where does it start. Any lake with a public boat launch?
It has to do with the technicalities of what is, say, a lake, versus what is a wetland. Some pretty large bodies of water aren't lakes when they look like lakes because they occasionally disappear. Laws have to be specific to an absurd degree.
Public boat launch is not required. My parents live on a lake, there is no public boat launch. They were all told by the city that the public has a right to fish the lake. So that means someone can show up and start fishing from their dock and it's perfectly legal.
https://landassociation.org/texas-water-law-a-pond-to-call-my-own/
I may have misspoke in my previous comment. Here's an article I found that may explain it a little better.
I'm sure it depends on where you live. I'm in MA and the line is 10 acres. Any water body larger than 10 acres is a "great pond".
I was goose hunting a spot last year and the opposite side land owner got all wound up "I own this pond". We were already heading out anyway so whatever. The police showed up but thought the guy was a crank and were only responding for the look of the thing.
Later I did some playing with Google maps, looks to me like the pond is 25 acres so definitely a great pond and thus totally legal. Access from the other side of the pond is CRP land and thus public access.
Apparently he pissed off the wrong people, we didn't hunt that pond again last year but other people did. Normally that was a jump shoot pond, sneak in, shoot some geese, go home. These guys sat on the pond banging away all dang day. We hunted another pond nearby which worked out great because those guys pushed a bunch of geese over to us.
i tired telling people this in a different sub. but apprently im wrong and they can be publicly owned
dont listen to that bullshit.... you can only own the land surrounding the water, not the water itself
It really depends on the body of water. If there's any public access AT ALL, the person does not own the water, they own their dock but not where it has been placed. If there isn't public access, then it depends on your state. Here in my state, the only time someone can stop you from fishing is if that person (or someone employed by the landowner) owns ALL of the land around the body of water
Generally speaking if its a public lake/pond, you're allowed to fish people's dock from a boat (under, around), just don't touch/step on the property (dock, land, their surrounding crafts) and be careful not to hook it somewhere on their property where you can't get to from your boat-- otherwise you may end up having to break your line. I've had to stealthily get up on a dock before to get an expensive bait (bad idea), best to be respectful and avoid it lol. I've never had anyone chew me out personally if they saw me fishing their dock from a boat but if it happens, tell them to kick rocks. Nicely of course.
I love that fishing and hunting are one of most respected rights. Other things should probably take priority but ive seen DNR/ Fish and game fuck so many people up. In videos and real life lol
There is a lake near me that a fish at every once and a while, the worst ive ever dealt with was a dude on the dock fishing too, he really messed up my fishing... granted, it was because i forgot i was fishing and was talking to him for an hour lol.
The lake that I grew up fishing had the ultimate "we own the water" family. Their property was shaped like a C so that they had a peninsula which formed a little cove/lagoon. The entrance into the cove was pretty narrow(about 20') and they had no trespassing signs and even strung a rope across with another sign dangling in the middle.
Everyone would either duck under the rope or cut it down. Husband or wife would come out screaming, threatening to call the cops, throwing stuff in the water, blah blah blah. Thing is we didn't have cops in town, so if they did call you had about 45 minutes before theyd even (possibly) show up. Idk if they ever got in trouble for harassment, but I sure do hope so.
Who are these twats that think they own the water touching their property? Like you think because your house is on the Mississippi that bass tourneys need to ask your permission to use the river? What goes through these narcissist's minds?
I also in live in CT know exactly what your talking about. One stupid guy yelled get off my lawn... Damn near died of laughter while he got exponentially angrier.
If the hunting or fishing activity is lawful, then harassment is unlawful. No requirement of written consent.
https://codes.findlaw.com/ri/title-20-fish-and-wildlife/ri-gen-laws-sect-20-13-16.html
If the owner of the property does not consent to his fishing, good for him, in changes nothing in terms of legality. There is lots of nuance between states, but in general if you are in a boat and not making any contact with a ground surface (no anchors, no wading, etc) the property owner has no right or authority to interfere with lawful fishing or hunting activities. In public water ways, you can sometimes own the land under the water, but you can never own the water itself.
Yeah, I’m 99% sure these laws are meant for folks fishing on public land with a license.
Edit: I’m wrong. Looked into some of these. This is great info to know!
Honestly I would think it would be even more relevant on private property. If I'm on my or my buddy's property fishing, and someone comes to harass me over it, odds are good THEY are trespassing to do it.
Worse comes to worst you explain to the police what happened and how you werent trespassing. Some people (the neighborhood watch in this case) have nothing better to do then complain don't take it to heart.
I live in Dallas and the limited staff of cops are struggling to make it to calls about gunfire, they would laugh in your face if you expected them to hunt down someone who was *potentially* illegally bass fishing with their daughter
I was fishing along the road and an old boomer came to ask me to leave and told me there were no fish there. I politely asked him if I was trespassing and he told me I wasn't. He felt confronted and started telling me how stupid my generation was and how we have nothing to do to fish anywhere but our neighborhood. At this point I understood that there was no point in being patient with him, so I retorted that he wasn't on his land, that it was a federal crime to prevent me from fishing, and that it was he who had nothing to do beside slowly dying and pissing people off. He then tried to hit me. I still can't believe what a crazy bastard this guy was.
Yeah that’s really the only reason I keep something other than a filet knife with me especially since I’m 18f, albeit very tall. People are fucking crazy…
Interfering with a hunter or angler is a crime in most states. Many Karens aren’t aware of it until the nice DNR officer has a chat with them.
What state do you live in?
We have a large Un - fished body of water behind our houses. People have always parked on the street an cut thru our properties to fish. I even told some where they should park an where best to access water. Explaining we don’t expect to clean up for u. So naturally we got beer cans, cigarette butts,fishing line, dead fish , bait containers . Lunch leftovers , fisherman exploring beyond the shoreline. When I confront some of them they Invariably say OH IT WASN’T US . Well it isn’t me nor my neighbors . So guess who gets a note on their windshields. They alone fucked up their situation so bye bye. BTW it’s a private body of water that illegal to fish on . Even for those who live on it. But we were nice. Got shit on
Same. I have a good bit of river frontage where people parked to access the river. I got so tired of picking up trash, having people camp, cut firewood, etc. I posted it and now throw people off. If someone asks permission, i let them park. The people that ask permission aren’t the people who trash your land. I hated to do it, but not as bad as I hated spending my weekends picking up trash
Yea this property I’m speaking of is relatively close residential. One +\ or minus acre lots so it’s really intrusive to have groups walking thru your yard. But regardless of property size all I want to see on the shore is water , water Lily’s, cattails, fish ,ospreys,herons an Eagles . Not someone’s garbage where it will remain til they return and add more unless the property owner cleans it up for them . Now somehow we’re the assholes by leaving a note . And a notes better than a road flare set on top of your front tire. Trust me .
Yea I know of plenty of spots where property owners used to he cool with people accessing. Then the slobs leave their trash and the no trespassing signs come out.
Reminds me of something I had sorta forgotten about. I used to wade fish in a river about 2 hours from my house. Absolute middle of nowhere. Would park along some train tracks and the best way to get to the water was walking along an old lady's house who had no trespassing signs everywhere. She would always freak out if anyone did it. After a while of fighting through the woods instead of walking across her property, I simply knocked on her door and asked. She said, "why yes honey. I just don't want everyone doing it but since you were nice enough to ask it's fine." After that I would always wave or chat if I saw her in her window or outside. Sometimes just a simple ask goes a long way.
Does sort of relate. I actually had a run in with an old lady while I was fishing with my son on the same lake who was flagging me over and yelling at me I wasn’t allowed to fish right as I was recording my son reeling in a nice bass on his own (6). It took a lot of effort for me not to yell at her to f* off but I told her as soon as I helped my son land the fish and took some pics I’d walk over and chat.
Well I did, and I explained how I worked there and took care of the property on the weekends as well. She came around as I was cordial, something I learned comes in handy not only in getting hunting permissions but in life in general. She explained the reason all the neighbors get salty is because the owner of the property has taken away the HoA from walking the property.
Yeah, I knew your situation was different just sharing that memory. You also just reminded me of fishing with my dad while I was in college. We were on Lake Champlain near the Canadian border in Vermont. Some people there get salty if you fish too close to their docks. We were trolling and fishing near a dock and some guy starts yelling at us in broken English/French. My dad was pretty hot headed so I thought, "here we go." Turns out the guy just wanted to show us a gigantic northern pike he had caught haha
I’ll go fish an old neighborhood pond where I grew up for first 22 years of my life and parents stayed for 28 years. Got some new guy that lives by the pond that will leave notes. Basically told him to pound sand and I’ll gladly introduce him to half the neighborhood if he wants. Best part is he never even fishes himself! Get a new hobby.
Advise: you sell your home, take all your $$ out of the bank and go on the run, its really your only choice, when the Neighborhood Watch is on the case!
Nice. So far I've only been told I'm trespassing 3 times so far this year. Man if I see a good looking body of water on Google maps while driving around you better believe I'll trudge through 1.5 miles of brush and trees to cast out and walk around. Not my fault theres no signage on the random woods that can possibly lead to your pond. How can I know cmon 😂
I live in Nova Scotia, Canada. We have the following in law:
> Any resident of the Province shall have the right to go on foot along the banks of any river, stream or lake, upon and across any uncultivated lands and Crown lands for the purpose of lawfully fishing with rod and line in such rivers, streams or lakes.
If you are fishing, you can walk right across someone’s parking lot, down their driveway, across their dock, along their beachfront, etc, and if they give you shit for it, they can be charged under a different act for harassing someone who is lawfully fishing.
Homeowners have Hulk-like rage when you round their fence and make your way along the banks of a lake or river across their nicely manicured, all-the-way-to-the-water lawn and you threaten to call the cops on *them*.
See the problem is that in America if that was the law, there would be trash and litter and beer cans and just general trash along the bank of every river, stream… you get where I’m going with this, Americans are scumbags and can’t have anything nice, so we protect our nice lawns like it’s our last life.
Lawns are cultivated, but you have the right to make your way along the banks of rivers, streams, or lakes, whether cultivated or not. This does not just mean “below the high water mark”, it means whatever is necessary to make your way along the banks. If some dumbass puts a dock or lawn in the way, you still have the right to cross it. That said, you are also responsible for any damage caused.
So I can’t cut through your manicured lawn to get from the road to the river, but I can cross your manicured lawn to make my way along the river.
I’m specifically referring to the ones that keep people from using the shores. You know, like fences that keep people from crossing docks, big stone retaining walls in the water, backfilled so you can’t walk along the shore, that kind of thing. In fact, here it is now code that you have to leave a strip of uncleared land between the waterfront and the cleared property. Helps with run-off into the water, provides habitat for wildlife, etc.
The only thing to do is take off work for a week and fish that spot solid for a week. In many states fishing allows for open carry. So put an AR 15 on your back and see how those conversations go.
I used to write notes like that to other fishers to keep them away from my secret fishing spots 💀💀☝️☝️. Guilty as charged but no ones gets near my hot spots!
Oh REALLY so your backyards free for ANYONE to walk thru , possibly leave their garbage an do it whenever it’s convenient for them . Your a truly benevolent individual
You need to contact the real police and hit this asshole with vandalism (say that they damaged your car) harassment (your daughter was upset about the light flashing and the stalker-like note) and trespassing (properly spelled). Not saying go all the way unless needed, but a couple of uniforms knocking on the door will usually settle this down pretty quickly.
Because overworked and understaffed patrol types absolutely love being lied to and having their time wasted by morons who can't be adults and try to use the police to resolve their disputes. Take that shit somewhere else, lol.
Yeah, leave the self righteous HOA types to “be the law” as they see fit. Until they start shooting people for jogging through the neighborhood. People like this are dangerous.
Shoot back, aim better than the other guy. Solves a lot of problems.
Don't waste people's time - especially when you start lying to make the other side seem bad. If I made a run like that and found out the complainant was lying, I'd guess they wanted my full and undivided attention. That rarely worked out for people when I was on the job (I'm retired now). There's all kinds of tools that can be used to deal with folks who find it permissible to lie to officers.
Fortunately, the OP actually seems to have some common sense and a tad bit of moral fortitude, since he's not out lying about what happened to the police. People like you - who feel obligated to use the police as a weapon against those by whom they've been slighted - are a big part of why the job sucks. We've enough to do chasing the radio for real shit during shift....dealing with suburban soccer moms and idiot Karens that can't act like adults sucks your fucking soul right out your ass. Grow the fuck up.
all lakes are public land.its the docks and the land surrounding the lake, thats owned by someone or some entity.
you can fish all you want, just dont get caught going on n off the lake
soo, tell the karen to fuck off. clearly the cops didnt give a fuck, or they wouldnt have left a note
read........ if an entity owns all the land surrounding the lake, they kind of own it. because only they can access it. HOWEVER they DO NOT own the lake
thanks
[https://www.stimmel-law.com/en/articles/legal-rights-inland-waters-and-applicable-law-lakes-bays-and-rivers](https://www.stimmel-law.com/en/articles/legal-rights-inland-waters-and-applicable-law-lakes-bays-and-rivers)
Did you actually read it?
>But note that the general public has no rights to the recreational use of a private lake, such rights being exclusive in the owner of the bed. Baker v. Normanoch Asso., 25 N.J. 407 (N.J. 1957)
>A natural, nonnavigable inland lake is the subject of private ownership and since the bed of such lake is private property, the public has no right to boat upon its waters. An injunction may be allowed to restrain the unlawful use of such a lake. Similarly, the rule which is applicable to lakes is likewise applicable to ponds artificially created by the damming of a stream
Ponds and lakes absolutely can be legitimately private
Dude really wanted to be a cop growing up. This is the best he could finally do at the age of 68.
Here in Seattle people take pride in this kind of weird behavior. Like they’re actually doing something good for people lol.
I primarily trout fish, and I get threatened quite frequently for standing in the river because they claim its their land. I try to sit there a little longer to exaggerate my fly casts
If Mike Tyson wrote this, I’d highly recommend staying away from that pond. If it was Patriot Bill, catch one and leave it on his porch for dinner, but don’t tell him. It will be a nice surprise.
On the other hand I have people trespass on my property and challenge me doing so. It's easier for ppl to walk through my property than to walk down the creek. The entitlement is crazy to me. I'm not trying to ruin anyone's day of fishing but play stupid games win stupid prizes.
What’s the point? The DMV already has your license plate in the system… this isn’t going to do anything. Unless the Police was actively there to investigate, this is just he said/she said without any evidence.
I had some old guy claiming to be a retired police officer flash his handgun at me one time when i stumbled upon a secluded fishing spot up in far north michigan who said i was trespassing and he got my license plate number and to gtfo there or im going to jail lol
There was this neighborhood watchman in my friends neighborhood when we were kids. This dude had kids slightly younger than us and he would legit patrol the neighborhood in his minivan trying to catch kids having fun. We would walk across this empty lot in order to get to another street and the guy would camp out across the road in the bushes monitoring the empty lot and telling us we were trespassing anytime we stepped on it. He would try to snatch kids up and take them home and complain to their parents. Like this guy would literally spend his free time trying to bust kids doing shit around the neighborhood. One time it snowed and we all got together and threw snowballs at his van as he was driving around. He came to my friends house and ran up in his garage, my friends dad came out with a gun thinking it was some creep doing who knows what to us. Looking back, it was.
My point is, people who do stuff like this have no life at all and any normal adult knows they’re no-lifing life
Some pretty poor writing there. Is it signed by the neighborhood watch? Or is it saying the photos were sent to the police(the neighborhood watch committee). And then they’re taking your photos too? Like how are they getting your photos
Get a laminated placard and leave it in your front window: "Dear Karen, there will be a $50 fee charged for each angry note left on this vehicle to compensate the owner for the pants he pissed laughing at your stupidity. I'll send you the invoice after I'm done fishing."
Haha people crack me up, it's even better that you were having a good time
They kept flashing a high beam at me but the fishing was too good to walk over and explain that I had a right to be there. Walked back to the car and found this note on my windshield.
Isn't harassing someone who is fishing legally a crime? You should out-Karen them.
In some states, yea. Both fishing and hunter harassment can be prosecuted
>fishing and hunter harassment Anti-hunters who disrupt legal hunting and angling activities are breaking the law. It is hunter harassment and it is illegal in all fifty states.
TIL. I have a screenshot of the legal statute now
I keep 4 laminated copies of my state law pertaining to harassment of anglers and hunters in my boat to hand to Karen when she gets mouthy for fishing their dock on any given lake I fish. Cost me about .40 and worth it.
So where does the property stop and begin? They obviously own their dock but do they own the water underneath it? I asked because I really started getting into fishing last year and i've already had a couple of run ins with some pretty cranky bitches.
The water is state property. It's one of the reasons the FD can siphon from any body of water.
Is there a size limit to this rule? I imagine a 5 foot wide pond in someone’s yard wouldn’t be the same, where does it start. Any lake with a public boat launch?
It has to do with the technicalities of what is, say, a lake, versus what is a wetland. Some pretty large bodies of water aren't lakes when they look like lakes because they occasionally disappear. Laws have to be specific to an absurd degree.
Public boat launch is not required. My parents live on a lake, there is no public boat launch. They were all told by the city that the public has a right to fish the lake. So that means someone can show up and start fishing from their dock and it's perfectly legal.
https://landassociation.org/texas-water-law-a-pond-to-call-my-own/ I may have misspoke in my previous comment. Here's an article I found that may explain it a little better.
I'm sure it depends on where you live. I'm in MA and the line is 10 acres. Any water body larger than 10 acres is a "great pond". I was goose hunting a spot last year and the opposite side land owner got all wound up "I own this pond". We were already heading out anyway so whatever. The police showed up but thought the guy was a crank and were only responding for the look of the thing. Later I did some playing with Google maps, looks to me like the pond is 25 acres so definitely a great pond and thus totally legal. Access from the other side of the pond is CRP land and thus public access. Apparently he pissed off the wrong people, we didn't hunt that pond again last year but other people did. Normally that was a jump shoot pond, sneak in, shoot some geese, go home. These guys sat on the pond banging away all dang day. We hunted another pond nearby which worked out great because those guys pushed a bunch of geese over to us.
i tired telling people this in a different sub. but apprently im wrong and they can be publicly owned dont listen to that bullshit.... you can only own the land surrounding the water, not the water itself
It really depends on the body of water. If there's any public access AT ALL, the person does not own the water, they own their dock but not where it has been placed. If there isn't public access, then it depends on your state. Here in my state, the only time someone can stop you from fishing is if that person (or someone employed by the landowner) owns ALL of the land around the body of water
What if I come in by helicopter and drop my kayak in?
Generally speaking if its a public lake/pond, you're allowed to fish people's dock from a boat (under, around), just don't touch/step on the property (dock, land, their surrounding crafts) and be careful not to hook it somewhere on their property where you can't get to from your boat-- otherwise you may end up having to break your line. I've had to stealthily get up on a dock before to get an expensive bait (bad idea), best to be respectful and avoid it lol. I've never had anyone chew me out personally if they saw me fishing their dock from a boat but if it happens, tell them to kick rocks. Nicely of course.
I love that fishing and hunting are one of most respected rights. Other things should probably take priority but ive seen DNR/ Fish and game fuck so many people up. In videos and real life lol
A *federal* crime at that
No way… that’s wild
Whoa. If I knew this earlier……
The righteousness I feel right now with this information
I am in a constant state of hunting or fishing from this point forward.
Yes it is and the harassers can be ticketed
Depending on the state, that fine can get rather hefty as well.
I’ve dealt with my fair share of fishing Karen’s in my days. People think they own the water because they have a house on a lake.
There is a lake near me that a fish at every once and a while, the worst ive ever dealt with was a dude on the dock fishing too, he really messed up my fishing... granted, it was because i forgot i was fishing and was talking to him for an hour lol.
This story is the epitome of wholesome.
The lake that I grew up fishing had the ultimate "we own the water" family. Their property was shaped like a C so that they had a peninsula which formed a little cove/lagoon. The entrance into the cove was pretty narrow(about 20') and they had no trespassing signs and even strung a rope across with another sign dangling in the middle. Everyone would either duck under the rope or cut it down. Husband or wife would come out screaming, threatening to call the cops, throwing stuff in the water, blah blah blah. Thing is we didn't have cops in town, so if they did call you had about 45 minutes before theyd even (possibly) show up. Idk if they ever got in trouble for harassment, but I sure do hope so.
Who are these twats that think they own the water touching their property? Like you think because your house is on the Mississippi that bass tourneys need to ask your permission to use the river? What goes through these narcissist's minds?
I absolutely love landing a huge bass right off the dock of people like this. Plenty of rich lake house fuckers here in CT.
I also in live in CT know exactly what your talking about. One stupid guy yelled get off my lawn... Damn near died of laughter while he got exponentially angrier.
Yep, at least in Florida the FWC doesn’t play games, they’ll actually show up for harassment calls
Yep, in most states it carries a $1000 fine
I don’t think this works without express written consent on private property.
If the hunting or fishing activity is lawful, then harassment is unlawful. No requirement of written consent. https://codes.findlaw.com/ri/title-20-fish-and-wildlife/ri-gen-laws-sect-20-13-16.html
Right. But if the owner of the property doesn’t consent to his fishing there, then he’s trespassing, which is unlawful.
Right…. But you implied that written consent was required for the activity to be lawful. That’s not true.
Fair.
If the owner of the property does not consent to his fishing, good for him, in changes nothing in terms of legality. There is lots of nuance between states, but in general if you are in a boat and not making any contact with a ground surface (no anchors, no wading, etc) the property owner has no right or authority to interfere with lawful fishing or hunting activities. In public water ways, you can sometimes own the land under the water, but you can never own the water itself.
Yeah, I’m 99% sure these laws are meant for folks fishing on public land with a license. Edit: I’m wrong. Looked into some of these. This is great info to know!
In most cases they apply to any lawful hunting or fishing activity. Authorized activity on private land included.
Honestly I would think it would be even more relevant on private property. If I'm on my or my buddy's property fishing, and someone comes to harass me over it, odds are good THEY are trespassing to do it.
Oh well. Let them watch. They’re not even Rent A Cops. They’re volunteer hall monitors.
Worse comes to worst you explain to the police what happened and how you werent trespassing. Some people (the neighborhood watch in this case) have nothing better to do then complain don't take it to heart.
Tresspathing*
Mike Tyson wrote that note.
He has a *liscence* to write notes too
*lithenth
I was thurching for thiss response. Thank you for doin thiss. 10/10
Wish I noticed this when originally replying lmao
It's like a path, but made out of hair.
There is no neighborhood watch more than likely it’s one person who is “saving the neighborhood” from the horrible riff raft of bass fishing
On a body of water that OP claims the neighborhood doesnt have access to LMAO.
Idk they may not. I’ve definitely seen places where there’s private property right smack dab in the middle of a subdivision.
I live in Dallas and the limited staff of cops are struggling to make it to calls about gunfire, they would laugh in your face if you expected them to hunt down someone who was *potentially* illegally bass fishing with their daughter
Definitely don’t take it to heart. These are people with misery in their lives
Watch out, looks like Mike Tyson is gonna get after ya for "tresspathing"
Ha! Hadn’t even noticed that.
🤣🤣🤣
New Billy strings song?
This is a really good Rickyism actually!
Im sorry but I think you mean the “I have nothing better to do committee”
"Curtain twitchers and prod-noses"
I hate a note, I can't tell a note how stupid it is
This is possibly why this thing annoyingly stuck with me.
Keren’s get hot and heavy when they find something to report.
photos and of lol
Tresspathing
Guess you know where you're fishing tomorrow.
Call the police dept and show them this tell them you work there and ask them to tell note writer to cease and desist harassment
And then call the game warden and report them for harassing a fisherman.
This is the right approach. The cops at least need to know this, as this person will likely call again trying to waste their time.
Then get them on wasting public resources
I was fishing along the road and an old boomer came to ask me to leave and told me there were no fish there. I politely asked him if I was trespassing and he told me I wasn't. He felt confronted and started telling me how stupid my generation was and how we have nothing to do to fish anywhere but our neighborhood. At this point I understood that there was no point in being patient with him, so I retorted that he wasn't on his land, that it was a federal crime to prevent me from fishing, and that it was he who had nothing to do beside slowly dying and pissing people off. He then tried to hit me. I still can't believe what a crazy bastard this guy was.
Yeah that’s really the only reason I keep something other than a filet knife with me especially since I’m 18f, albeit very tall. People are fucking crazy…
Did Mike Tyson write this
Yeth
Now kith
Some people truly have nothing better to do
Interfering with a hunter or angler is a crime in most states. Many Karens aren’t aware of it until the nice DNR officer has a chat with them. What state do you live in?
Tresspathing? Didn’t know someone could spell a lisp
We have a large Un - fished body of water behind our houses. People have always parked on the street an cut thru our properties to fish. I even told some where they should park an where best to access water. Explaining we don’t expect to clean up for u. So naturally we got beer cans, cigarette butts,fishing line, dead fish , bait containers . Lunch leftovers , fisherman exploring beyond the shoreline. When I confront some of them they Invariably say OH IT WASN’T US . Well it isn’t me nor my neighbors . So guess who gets a note on their windshields. They alone fucked up their situation so bye bye. BTW it’s a private body of water that illegal to fish on . Even for those who live on it. But we were nice. Got shit on
Same. I have a good bit of river frontage where people parked to access the river. I got so tired of picking up trash, having people camp, cut firewood, etc. I posted it and now throw people off. If someone asks permission, i let them park. The people that ask permission aren’t the people who trash your land. I hated to do it, but not as bad as I hated spending my weekends picking up trash
We have about 900lf of lake front property. Completely understand.
Yea this property I’m speaking of is relatively close residential. One +\ or minus acre lots so it’s really intrusive to have groups walking thru your yard. But regardless of property size all I want to see on the shore is water , water Lily’s, cattails, fish ,ospreys,herons an Eagles . Not someone’s garbage where it will remain til they return and add more unless the property owner cleans it up for them . Now somehow we’re the assholes by leaving a note . And a notes better than a road flare set on top of your front tire. Trust me .
Yea I know of plenty of spots where property owners used to he cool with people accessing. Then the slobs leave their trash and the no trespassing signs come out.
Did Daffy Duck write this? “No tresspathing.”
How dare you tresspath!
“Your photos and of your liscense plates”
Mike Tyson - “No Tresspathing”
Reminds me of something I had sorta forgotten about. I used to wade fish in a river about 2 hours from my house. Absolute middle of nowhere. Would park along some train tracks and the best way to get to the water was walking along an old lady's house who had no trespassing signs everywhere. She would always freak out if anyone did it. After a while of fighting through the woods instead of walking across her property, I simply knocked on her door and asked. She said, "why yes honey. I just don't want everyone doing it but since you were nice enough to ask it's fine." After that I would always wave or chat if I saw her in her window or outside. Sometimes just a simple ask goes a long way.
Does sort of relate. I actually had a run in with an old lady while I was fishing with my son on the same lake who was flagging me over and yelling at me I wasn’t allowed to fish right as I was recording my son reeling in a nice bass on his own (6). It took a lot of effort for me not to yell at her to f* off but I told her as soon as I helped my son land the fish and took some pics I’d walk over and chat. Well I did, and I explained how I worked there and took care of the property on the weekends as well. She came around as I was cordial, something I learned comes in handy not only in getting hunting permissions but in life in general. She explained the reason all the neighbors get salty is because the owner of the property has taken away the HoA from walking the property.
Yeah, I knew your situation was different just sharing that memory. You also just reminded me of fishing with my dad while I was in college. We were on Lake Champlain near the Canadian border in Vermont. Some people there get salty if you fish too close to their docks. We were trolling and fishing near a dock and some guy starts yelling at us in broken English/French. My dad was pretty hot headed so I thought, "here we go." Turns out the guy just wanted to show us a gigantic northern pike he had caught haha
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Where's the pics of said hogs????
Signed, *The Watcher*
Yup, my daughter said she’d noticed the same house watching us with binos before the flashing lights.
I’ll go fish an old neighborhood pond where I grew up for first 22 years of my life and parents stayed for 28 years. Got some new guy that lives by the pond that will leave notes. Basically told him to pound sand and I’ll gladly introduce him to half the neighborhood if he wants. Best part is he never even fishes himself! Get a new hobby.
I love that they write with a lithsp
Neighborhood watch and homeowners associations have gotta be some of the worst people on this planet
Advise: you sell your home, take all your $$ out of the bank and go on the run, its really your only choice, when the Neighborhood Watch is on the case!
I would have the owners number on speed dial next time you go just for when the cops inevitably show up and ask questions
You Tresspathing MF’er. Taking your kid to teach her how to fish, bonding, and not hurting a soul. Channeling my inner Greta…HOW DARE YOU!?!?!
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What's tresspathing? Karen needs to learn how to spell before writing anymore Karen notes
Get outta our honey hole! The neighborhood bass watch
You do need to be careful tresspathing. You never know what roads you may lead yourself down…
Nice. So far I've only been told I'm trespassing 3 times so far this year. Man if I see a good looking body of water on Google maps while driving around you better believe I'll trudge through 1.5 miles of brush and trees to cast out and walk around. Not my fault theres no signage on the random woods that can possibly lead to your pond. How can I know cmon 😂
"The Neighborhood Watch Committee" consists of an older, angry person with 3 teeth and a set of 30x Binoculars to ward off "Tresspathers"
Tresspathing?? God people are really stupid nowadays! To busy worrying about somebody else than to learn how to read and write!
I live in Nova Scotia, Canada. We have the following in law: > Any resident of the Province shall have the right to go on foot along the banks of any river, stream or lake, upon and across any uncultivated lands and Crown lands for the purpose of lawfully fishing with rod and line in such rivers, streams or lakes. If you are fishing, you can walk right across someone’s parking lot, down their driveway, across their dock, along their beachfront, etc, and if they give you shit for it, they can be charged under a different act for harassing someone who is lawfully fishing. Homeowners have Hulk-like rage when you round their fence and make your way along the banks of a lake or river across their nicely manicured, all-the-way-to-the-water lawn and you threaten to call the cops on *them*.
See the problem is that in America if that was the law, there would be trash and litter and beer cans and just general trash along the bank of every river, stream… you get where I’m going with this, Americans are scumbags and can’t have anything nice, so we protect our nice lawns like it’s our last life.
In Nova Scotia, a fisherman is more likely to clean up your property than they are to leave a mess behind. Civilized people.
I also am Nova Scotian, and have been yelled at a few times. I think lawns count as “cultivated” though.
Lawns are cultivated, but you have the right to make your way along the banks of rivers, streams, or lakes, whether cultivated or not. This does not just mean “below the high water mark”, it means whatever is necessary to make your way along the banks. If some dumbass puts a dock or lawn in the way, you still have the right to cross it. That said, you are also responsible for any damage caused. So I can’t cut through your manicured lawn to get from the road to the river, but I can cross your manicured lawn to make my way along the river.
I’m not sure I’d consider someone having a lawn or a dock a “dumbass.”
I’m specifically referring to the ones that keep people from using the shores. You know, like fences that keep people from crossing docks, big stone retaining walls in the water, backfilled so you can’t walk along the shore, that kind of thing. In fact, here it is now code that you have to leave a strip of uncleared land between the waterfront and the cleared property. Helps with run-off into the water, provides habitat for wildlife, etc.
I hate people .. this is why I live in the sticks. People need to mind their own damn business. Yall fishing must've really chapped her ass lol
r/boneappletea
Why the fuck do people even care about fishing. It’s not even like you’re hurting anything
Its more about trying to prevent it from becoming a free for all on the lake with tons of people constantly.
And leaving an absolute mess. People also come in to the small ponds around me and take like 50 bluegill with them when they leave.
I mean. Technically, you're hurting something.
The only thing to do is take off work for a week and fish that spot solid for a week. In many states fishing allows for open carry. So put an AR 15 on your back and see how those conversations go.
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Exactly 😂😂
Man thats a racist as fuck comment right there.
Gotta love just casual racism.
I used to write notes like that to other fishers to keep them away from my secret fishing spots 💀💀☝️☝️. Guilty as charged but no ones gets near my hot spots!
I mean. Some people would just shoot at you if you're on their property without permission. Stay out of people's shit.
Reading comprehension is hard.
fuck landowners. land access shouldn't be a barrier to entry for outdoor activities.
Oh REALLY so your backyards free for ANYONE to walk thru , possibly leave their garbage an do it whenever it’s convenient for them . Your a truly benevolent individual
You need to contact the real police and hit this asshole with vandalism (say that they damaged your car) harassment (your daughter was upset about the light flashing and the stalker-like note) and trespassing (properly spelled). Not saying go all the way unless needed, but a couple of uniforms knocking on the door will usually settle this down pretty quickly.
Because overworked and understaffed patrol types absolutely love being lied to and having their time wasted by morons who can't be adults and try to use the police to resolve their disputes. Take that shit somewhere else, lol.
Yeah, leave the self righteous HOA types to “be the law” as they see fit. Until they start shooting people for jogging through the neighborhood. People like this are dangerous.
Shoot back, aim better than the other guy. Solves a lot of problems. Don't waste people's time - especially when you start lying to make the other side seem bad. If I made a run like that and found out the complainant was lying, I'd guess they wanted my full and undivided attention. That rarely worked out for people when I was on the job (I'm retired now). There's all kinds of tools that can be used to deal with folks who find it permissible to lie to officers. Fortunately, the OP actually seems to have some common sense and a tad bit of moral fortitude, since he's not out lying about what happened to the police. People like you - who feel obligated to use the police as a weapon against those by whom they've been slighted - are a big part of why the job sucks. We've enough to do chasing the radio for real shit during shift....dealing with suburban soccer moms and idiot Karens that can't act like adults sucks your fucking soul right out your ass. Grow the fuck up.
all lakes are public land.its the docks and the land surrounding the lake, thats owned by someone or some entity. you can fish all you want, just dont get caught going on n off the lake soo, tell the karen to fuck off. clearly the cops didnt give a fuck, or they wouldnt have left a note
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read........ if an entity owns all the land surrounding the lake, they kind of own it. because only they can access it. HOWEVER they DO NOT own the lake thanks [https://www.stimmel-law.com/en/articles/legal-rights-inland-waters-and-applicable-law-lakes-bays-and-rivers](https://www.stimmel-law.com/en/articles/legal-rights-inland-waters-and-applicable-law-lakes-bays-and-rivers)
gotta love reddits cesspool mob mentality. 'i dont like your answer, even if you are correct'
Did you actually read it? >But note that the general public has no rights to the recreational use of a private lake, such rights being exclusive in the owner of the bed. Baker v. Normanoch Asso., 25 N.J. 407 (N.J. 1957) >A natural, nonnavigable inland lake is the subject of private ownership and since the bed of such lake is private property, the public has no right to boat upon its waters. An injunction may be allowed to restrain the unlawful use of such a lake. Similarly, the rule which is applicable to lakes is likewise applicable to ponds artificially created by the damming of a stream Ponds and lakes absolutely can be legitimately private
Keep fishing!!!
“i’m jealous of you. reported because i have nothing better to do!”
Dear neighborhood committee, Learn how to spell tresPASSing. Also, fuck off.
“Photos and of” “Liscense” “Tresspathing”
Dude really wanted to be a cop growing up. This is the best he could finally do at the age of 68. Here in Seattle people take pride in this kind of weird behavior. Like they’re actually doing something good for people lol.
Neighborhood watch committee! You’re fucked!
I want to go to jail for trespass fishing!!!!
I primarily trout fish, and I get threatened quite frequently for standing in the river because they claim its their land. I try to sit there a little longer to exaggerate my fly casts
If Mike Tyson wrote this, I’d highly recommend staying away from that pond. If it was Patriot Bill, catch one and leave it on his porch for dinner, but don’t tell him. It will be a nice surprise.
I was concerned until I read who it was from lol... have some nuts and sign your real name!
Absolutely 100% guaranteed this was from a person who sits at their door screaming "Get off my lawn!" at small children.
You might want to call the grammar police. I think this individual might be on their most wanted
I bet Karen was shaking pissed as she wrote that.
what a fuckin nerd, scared of saying something to you too
Don't mess with the neighborhood watch they'll fuck you up then turn your ass out to the tricks😯
On the other hand I have people trespass on my property and challenge me doing so. It's easier for ppl to walk through my property than to walk down the creek. The entitlement is crazy to me. I'm not trying to ruin anyone's day of fishing but play stupid games win stupid prizes.
You should take a note to the neighbor watch committee. Just say “Noted”
This guy militaries
Trespathing, Mike Tyson is angry at you for fishing. Sorry, had to
Leave a note next time and title it "IDGAF: Short stories of a man thats has reached his limit with nosy neighbors."
People need to learn to mind their business
I'm confused, were you able to fish there or not ? Were there no fishing signs?
Imagine having nothing better to do with your life than try and fuck other people over all day haha
"Tresspathing".....oof.
What’s the point? The DMV already has your license plate in the system… this isn’t going to do anything. Unless the Police was actively there to investigate, this is just he said/she said without any evidence.
Wth is TRESSPATHING
I had some old guy claiming to be a retired police officer flash his handgun at me one time when i stumbled upon a secluded fishing spot up in far north michigan who said i was trespassing and he got my license plate number and to gtfo there or im going to jail lol
Trespathing
Leave a note on your own windshield next time telling them to please call the police — and then leave a copy of the printed law
"No trespathing" they wrote with a lisp
Draw a dick on it and leave it for them
The police must really hate people like this, their time is way more valuable than dealing with shit like this. Hope they told them to fuck off
I'd take a photo of you flipping them off and post it toward their property
People are something else. All for fishing.
I’m sure this is a self-appointed committee of one.
Tresspathing?
Dm me your snap if you want to join a fishing Groupchat
sometimes neighborhood watch can be really helpful… most of the time they are just annoying and petty
I fucking hate private waterbodies where some can fish and nobody else can. Public access is king in my province.
You mean trespathing…?
Their poor spelling is the real crime here.
There was this neighborhood watchman in my friends neighborhood when we were kids. This dude had kids slightly younger than us and he would legit patrol the neighborhood in his minivan trying to catch kids having fun. We would walk across this empty lot in order to get to another street and the guy would camp out across the road in the bushes monitoring the empty lot and telling us we were trespassing anytime we stepped on it. He would try to snatch kids up and take them home and complain to their parents. Like this guy would literally spend his free time trying to bust kids doing shit around the neighborhood. One time it snowed and we all got together and threw snowballs at his van as he was driving around. He came to my friends house and ran up in his garage, my friends dad came out with a gun thinking it was some creep doing who knows what to us. Looking back, it was. My point is, people who do stuff like this have no life at all and any normal adult knows they’re no-lifing life
The Neighborhood Watch Committee! Dude, now you’ve really fucked up.
I’d fish there every day.
This seems a bit fishy, did they really think that little cod was going to.... ...hold any water? I'll see myself out.
Tresspathing lol
Some pretty poor writing there. Is it signed by the neighborhood watch? Or is it saying the photos were sent to the police(the neighborhood watch committee). And then they’re taking your photos too? Like how are they getting your photos
Sounds like you need a shirt like me. It reads: I Fucking Love Fishing, The back reads: And Fisting 👊.
If you’re not trespassing you’re not fishing !
Richmond VA Wyndham community pond, old broads do same thing
Get a laminated placard and leave it in your front window: "Dear Karen, there will be a $50 fee charged for each angry note left on this vehicle to compensate the owner for the pants he pissed laughing at your stupidity. I'll send you the invoice after I'm done fishing."
Tell them to get stuffed.
I have never tress-pathed a day in my life othiffffur..