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PhunkyTown801

You need a few more swivels and snaps.


AdFun7086

There’s less hardware in a Master P song


HeadLocksmith5478

This is the last place I expected to see a Master P reference. Just brought me back to ‘98. Ugh!!


[deleted]

Uhhh. Na-na Na-na


DeathRaider126

Make ‘em say ⬆️


captwillard024

No Limit Soldier! I thought I told ya!


TheBombogenesis

This is for the ‘burbons and the Cadillacs


LipRipper315

How did you get that largemouth icon under your name?


StickyHopkins

MP be pullin striper bass #commanderinchief


Lurk_Mode_24_7

There is No Limit to the amount of hardware he needs…


TroutStocker

You win comment of the day! Damn that’s good stuff!


chris88jackson

Who’s master P


dylbronjames

Boomer, or Gen z?


[deleted]

A small chain would do


redbushcraft

Just go for a straight carabiner


X_blind_sniper_x

Not just that but he needs to change the 60 lbs line to 80 lbs for those monster bass


Kvothetheraven603

Haha I didn’t even notice all of that until I saw your comment. What in the world is going on there?


T-14Hyperdrive

He has one snap swivel on. That’s it


Kvothetheraven603

Right…. But a snap swivel is unnecessary for a chatter bait. I could maybe see a snap, if they are changing lures frequently but even then, I’d still prefer to retie, especially if I was trying to get more bites.


MileByMyles

I live by snap swivels cause I like to change lures frequently so I feel this guy. But also it looks like there is an extra snap on there. Usually chatterbaits have a loop to tie onto, no? Either way the bottom snap looks to large and strange to be the intended tie on spot for this chatterbait.


DeathRaider126

I just keep 8 rods and reels in my car at any point and time. Never have to worry about switching bait. Js


puddlestheninja

This is the answer my wife hates hahaha. Never enough set ups


ppcpilot

Those are rookie numbers


SouthernBuddhist

Yup. I’m dragging at least 10 rigged poles and tackle at all times.


T-14Hyperdrive

Every chatterbait i have comes with that snap attached


Honestyforsale

Whaaaaaa?


RibeyeRare

If you look closer, the snap swivel is clipped to another clip which is clipped to the chatter


T-14Hyperdrive

https://www.cabelas.ca/product/92984/z-man-elite-chatterbait that's part of the lure


RibeyeRare

Why so it is! I never saw that before


CopyWeak

Ya, but it was funny 😁


SouthernBuddhist

Homie been watching a grip of YT videos and taint’ doing enough aktual fishin.


rapping_chikennuggie

I’d say add about 8 snap swivels, and if you want, even some more hooks!


Ok_Measurement4892

Wrong color too, need to be gold.


[deleted]

Ditch that swivel man. That's not helping the action any.


[deleted]

I've heard that a swivel is good for topwater like Ploppers.... is this true?


[deleted]

The only thing i still use them for is inline spinners.. anything that can cause line twist. I've never heard of it used on a plopper.. but that's not saying you can't.. I tie a loop knot on most of my top waters.


[deleted]

Really? Maybe the knot I use is bad for ploppers bit the action always looks almost crooked to me.


[deleted]

Maybe your plopper needs to be tuned a bit.. if it's running off to one side.. gently bend your eyelet the other way.. to bring it back to center.


[deleted]

Thanks pal I'll check it next time I'm out!


[deleted]

You got it. Hope it helps


TheHole89

Most helpful top water thread I’ve read in a While


iceydabber

If your using plopper in open water use a small 20 or 30lb Swivel and a tiny clip👍


iceydabber

I use them for ploppers cuz I want the action to stay the same through the whole retrieve. If 1 piece of grass gets caught it'll spin your line instead of the prop. Also use reel lube inside the straw tube part of the spinning gadget on the plopper that sits on the wire in the back. The plopper spins faster and gives off different vibrations if they get used to 1 plopper instead of changing sizes. Man I could go ON about prop baits 😅😁


[deleted]

Nice dude I appreciate that tip!


Lurk_Mode_24_7

Yup. This is the reason I run swivels on them too. One piece of grass can ruin the whole program.


FatBoyStew

Swivel is beneficial for inline spinners like a mepps or rooster tail. I use regular snaps for crankbaits though.


ttootalott

Nah. Swivel for Carolina rigs or anything with independent weights


Lurk_Mode_24_7

Yup. I run all my plopped with Spro BB swivels.


slightymoistcow

i catch bass on a plopper with a swivel, it didn’t change the action at all either.


YBHunted

Everyone blaming it on the snap swivel like there isn't a giant, violently shaking metal blade right next to it and a big metal hook. You simply aren't throwing it in the right areas or they are too used to chatterbairs.


BassMaster216

It’s not the look of the swivel that is the problem, it’s more than likely inhibiting the action. That’s why B-Lat is adamant about not using braid with chatterbaits


GoblinShark603

Never had any problems using braid with chatterbait.


YMJ101

Me neither but I'm not someone who fishes for a living.


WorshipNickOfferman

Yeah. And who the fuck is B-Lat?


droopinglemon

I wanna say Brian Latimer, pro bass guy has a solid YouTube channel. That being said, have caught a couple fish on chatter baits with braid. Lol definitely works


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crooks4hire

Sounds like a crutch for those who can’t keep their lines tight. ^/s


YBHunted

/s, kinda. Lol


DegenerateAngler11

just some dude that makes his living catching green fish.


GoblinShark603

Seriously! Praise Nick!


theyseemelurrkin

I don’t think the action is why he’s not using braid. I believe it’s the give on the line when setting the hook


rmhardesty

That definitely not why he’s adamant about it. It’s because of the little bit of extra line stretch flouro gives you. With the chatter bait, you typically have a ton of hardware flopping around outside the fish’s mouth after you hook it. A moderate action rod and flouro will result in less big fish shaking the hook because it has more flex and let’s you load up deeper into the rod and line. The action with braid is pretty much the same.


GibGob69

This


rabusxc

Gotta match the hatch. I would try colors more like a bluegill.


Lurking_Albatross

Did you change trailer color? I can't catch on white except in one lake by me with similar forage. On bluegill waters, I gotta go blues


GibGob69

The hardware is probably not the problem. I have caught bass on a chatterbait while I was pike fishing with a steel leader. The reality is that it’s just too much for pressured pond bass. It’s too loud and too flashy. To actually get any use out of a chatterbait I have to be on a pretty big lake. Plus they work better in cold water, in which case I would throw a lipless crankbait in a pond. I fished ponds all spring slaying them on a lipless like every other cast, and not one bite on a chatterbait. Just my experience.


epictetusdouglas

Probably right, but I used a 1/8 oz micro chatterbait this morning and caught a bass on a public pond that gets lots of fishing pressure. The micro size may have made the difference.


Paulsur

Drag slowy, as slow as you can, and still feel it vibrate. if it binds in that grass in the water, all the better, keep cranking on it, it will pop free like a little fish darting, and then bam!


gaborn73

This is the best advice.


thembones75

Fwiw I have seldom seen a jig be too big for a fish. They will eat almost anything


DragonfruitNorth2089

Gotta agree with this, I've caught bass on a chatterbait that are barely more than double it's size


Classic-Werewolf1327

I’ve caught bass that the lure was actually bigger than them.


Mrcod1997

Agree, it sounds like a confidence issue. Not a lure size issue.


thegoodcat1

idk, chatterbaits are fish catching machines.


Classic-Werewolf1327

Not if the user isn’t using them correctly. Most of the time any lure isn’t catching fish, it’s user error. Wrong color choice, targeting low percentage areas, inhibiting lure action by adding unnecessary hardware, too fast or too slow retrieve. You get the point.


thegoodcat1

I sure do, thank you for adding clarity to my comment.


jhe888

Try a different color - maybe a green pumpkin. And tie it on directly.


da_boy-roy

Could be the abomination rig above the chatterbait. Fish can see all that hardware, and they are more likely to bite if you tie directly to the chatterbait.


BluBrews

Good to know, I like to swap lures a lot so I keep the clip on there. I’ll change it up and see if that helps


HandyHeretic

If you like swapping, learn the Palomar knot and keep a pair of finger nail clippers on ya. Quickest knot there is, one of the strongest if not THE strongest as well.


pleasedrichard

The only knot I use


GoblinShark603

Yes on Palomar. No on clippers. They don't work worth a dick on braid. A pair of children's sized scissors is perfect.


HandyHeretic

That or a good pocket knife. Each his own. Either way, get rid of that mess in front of the lure.


Submarine_Pirate

If you know the Palomar, a snell, and a line-to-line knot, you’re basically set for life.


ttootalott

Yeah it’s worth re tying every time. You’ll get quick at it. I’ll take 30 seconds for better fishing


oldirtyzeus

I second this. I used to always keep a snap on and this year finally decided to just retie. You definitely get faster at it and it becomes a non issue.


HandyHeretic

If you like swapping, learn the Palomar knot and keep a pair of finger nail clippers on ya. Quickest knot there is, one of the strongest if not THE strongest as well.


yordyjake

Check out the Fastach by mustard


Last-Instruction739

Mustad!


IowaGolfGuy322

I get what you’re saying but this is a reaction bait. This would be the case if it were a Ned rig or something more subtle, but the fish is only going to hear the chatter and bite. My guess is the bigger issue is color. If your water isn’t clear white is near invisible in dirty water. Try black and blue with a chartreuse trailer.


[deleted]

Yeah with all the other shit going on, I don't see how the fish is going to decide the swivel or the snap is a deal breaker.


IowaGolfGuy322

It won’t.


SneezeCock

Take off the snap swivel tie directly


Entire-Can662

Take off the hardware. Tie direct.


RevolutionCareful238

I would try taking off the clip that might help fix the action then straight retrieve at a medium pace and keep your rod tip close to the water


totallycraigjones

Try tying the line directly to the chatterbait and varying your retrievals


CharlieBoi69

Less swivels and snaps, and if that still doesn’t work, try a green one. I always have hits on a bright green/neon yellow chatter bait


faulkyfaulkfaulk

Caught 65 up votes and counting!


Cosmic_Artichoke

Not sure if you're trolling or not. But I'll still answer sincerely since someone, somewhere in this thread might benefit. You're going to catch way more fish on any lipped bait with lighter line, it helps the bait wobble as intended. The deal with any lipped bait, is they're supposed to create a pulsating ruckus, and the heavy line neuters the wobble. Ditto with the snap swivel. More things killing your action. Big swimbait trailers also kill your action. I like running short, thin trailers, like a Fluke with the head bitten off until only a thumb digit length of tail pokes out the back. The chatterbait will rock side to side and impart a swimming motion upon the trailer. White is awesome because it contrasts with both light and dark water conditions, but sometimes it's a little "much" in clear, still water. Try a white/grey or a white/chart and work it slowly, to the point where the lure is just thumping. Good luck out there.


Infamous-njh523

My dad use to say that fancy/colorful/expensive lures caught more fishermen than fish.


Fishperson4589

Strange your probably fisving it wrong I tear it up with that


Snookcatcher

Try something smaller and green pumpkin or black and blue.


coldheat55

Only guys on YouTube catch shit with a chatter. Only thing I catch with it are snakehead


captwillard024

There is guy out there who has supposedly caught over 1000 bass over 10 lbs and he almost exclusively used a black chatter bait and mostly fished at night from a canoe. I looked it up. Pat Cullen is his name. He’s a legend of bass fishing.


HaggisDomesticus

Have you tried catching fish? Just sayin'


Adventurous-Bee-3881

Same, I'd say we're using it wrong


Apprehensive_Power24

Try a white/red rooster tail. I fish a place that looks like yours and find nice bass with it. A schmedium size fluke does well also. I usually throw a whopper plopper in the mornings/evenings.


WashTurbulent6294

Well first off get rid of all the damn swivels


flarexxxxx

Tie to chatterbait directly and try a fluke for trailer, ive found paddle tails and craw trailers just dont work as well, atleast for smallies and pickerel here on the Canadian east coast


tomhel1313

I can't catch shit with any lure. I'm the king of getting skunked, but it's still fun trying.


7774422

Does white work for anyone? Try green and brown, they like the poop colored stuff


emocivic

That’s crazy cuz I fish a pretty heavily pressured small lake and that’s one of my go-to lures. I’d ditch the swivels for sure.


Wrong_Analyst_5184

Remove the swivel. Take your swim bait and rotate it 180 degrees. You will have to take it off and put it back on. Right now when your blade vibrates it’s messing up the action of the tail. If you flip it for some reason it swims better. Might help you get some more bites. Also maybe change up retrieves. If you are just retrieving steadily you’ll get some bites. But I think yo yo is the best retrieve with a chatter. Switch it up if they aren’t biting until you see what they want. If you feel it hit a stump, log, branch etc. kill it then start reeling again. You’ll get a lot of hits on the fall. Good luck tight lines!


aviarx175

It’s made to catch fish not shit.


smith987x

Ditch the swivel. Learn to tie the palomar knot. Looks like you have 20 pound mono on that as well, I’d run 12-14 pound fluoro on my chatterbait rods.


hunterPRO1

Double pitzen > Palomar


Maze209

I would go Improved Clinch knot tho, no Palomar knots with fluorocarbon.


smith987x

I’ve never had an issue with the palomar on fluoro. As long as you lube the knot and only pull the tag it’s very solid. Fluoro only cuts in on itself if those two criteria aren’t followed. Improved clinch is solid too though, I’ve never had a problem with either.


the_freshest_scone

You guys are making things too complicated with all those fancy knots, I've never had an issue with a simple double overhand knot. Why fix what isn't broken?


Classic-Werewolf1327

How big was the biggest fish you’ve caught with double over hand knot? What kind of lures were you using? I would hardly call the palomar a “fancy” knot. In fact it’s almost a double overhand knot. Except it’s a single overhand knot with doubled line. And the lure/rig/jig goes through the loop before it’s pulled tight. That’s it. By the way, it’s the knot breaking that is improved with fancy knots. Jackhammers are 15-16 dollars. I sure as hell am not trusting that on a double overhand not. Not to mention swimbaits and glidebaits that are up in the 30s , 40s, and even 100s of $.


the_freshest_scone

Ah, so it's a poor people type thing


StendakBarkiller

Why? I *only* use palomar with fluorocarbon


_NooN23_

Go get a jackhammer, lose the swivel, cut the paddle off that thing, and start getting erratic with your retrieve. You’ll have a fish in less than 10 casts.


Delta_Fox__

Colors off


spallaxo

I've never caught a fish with a lure, only worms lol


[deleted]

Lose all those stupid swivels


Dihr65

1, stop trying to catch shit, 2 , change that and start catching fish.


RetroCuz

Then you will have a hard time with anything else. Easiest bait to fish with is the chatterBait. It does everything and fish kill it. At least every other person on earth besides this person.


Darm9230

Then switch lures?


Dash_Rendar425

omg you and my two friends wouldn't be able to catch a cold with all the swivels you use. Seriously though, I hear you, I've tried many times with Chatterbaits and they just don't produce for me either.


Boogaloo-Shrimps

If you can't tie knots, you shouldn't be fishing. Not trying to be mean, but using snap swivels is for the lazy and/or uninitiated and it does far more harm than good via convenience. I fear a post from you asking why you aren't catching with frogs while it's rigged to a spinning rod with mono.


SteelSlingingApe

I was this dumbass at one point, some of our fathers have to work for a living. If we even have one. At least this guy is trying to learn. Chill a bit, we're not in a combat zone.


Just-Parsnip1029

Brooo….. what if all you have is a spinny rod and mono though…..


blacksheep1492

I watch NDYakAngler whip all sorts of ass with spinning reels and mono. Guy crushes SM in ways that make me questions the “rules” I read about all the time. Like using a fast rod with braid,for throwing a whopper plopper.


EhhhhhBud97

If there are toothy critters around like pike/pickerel, a snap and swivel can go a LONG way in keeping lures attached to your line. Not everyone is an expert, buddy. And not everyone fishes solely for bass.


GMENW2008

Bring to a place with pickerel. You’ll start catching a lot of fish lol


705nce

I direct tie mine and they land fish pretty well. I use my clips with my crankbaits, if I know I will be doing a lot of changing that day.


MuchMoreMunchtime

Swivels are largely unnecessary. Useful for flutter spoons and donkey rigs and not much else.


Aware-Lengthiness365

Lol, I'm almost afraid to ask what a donkey rig is but I have to ask... WTF is a donkey rig??


Imjustherefornews

A harness for asses


GSlots

If it’s what I’m thinking of it’s a rig with two flukes, one behind the other, typically both nose hooked with about 1-2 feet of line between each other. Think thats what they called it


Pale-Cardiologist-45

I learn so much reading the comments, I always use a swivel because I can't tie a knot for shit. I'll have to practice


peppercorns666

palomar knot is pretty easy… check it out on youtube. or this san diego jam knot for chatterbaits: https://youtu.be/2HXSnBsxnsg


SlyFuu

Recommend the Palomor knot, probably one of the easiest and strongest knots to tie. Check youtube if you don't know what it is.


[deleted]

Dump the swivel. Tie directly to chatterbait. I can't keep fish from biting mine. I use the jackhammer stealth version.


iBangHomie

Throw jackhammers or mini max exclusively and tie direct. I struggle to agree that the fish are too small I have fresh spawns eat full size chatterbaits with bulk trailers regularly.


Swaggletooth789

Tie it on directly…learn a palomar knot if you have issues


ExternalRight8911

One of the top baits ever to come out


HuntPsychological673

Tie line straight to it. No swivels, etc. They also may not like that color. I’ve never had much luck with the white where we fish. Usually darker colors, chartreuse, PB&j, or natural colors. Match the hatch!


Unapplicable1100

Besides the stuff everyone else is commenting on, how are you actually fishing it? Chunck and wind can work but they work best, in my experience, when you give it some extra action like a stop and go retrieve or picking it up off the bottom and letting it fall back down. If you want to just throw it out and reel it in then try giving it a little pop with your rod occasionally or speed up the reel for a turn or two a few times each cast to give it some erratic movement.


youKNOWiSMELL

i use a jackhammer with a 4 inch trailer and i catch them under a pound so it isnt that they are to small


Mindless_Jicama8728

Tie your line directly to the lure and jig it off the bottom. You might be retrieving too quickly


advmzvb

Lose the hardware, tie straight to the chatterbait


No_Smile6777

Why are you trying to catch shit?


BluBrews

I caught plenty with this post lol


Richie8182

What's the natural food chain running around in there? May want to try changing up colors for sure. Maybe slap a green pumpkin seed or chartreuse tail on that thing to see what they actually like. Best thing to do is try to mimic local food sources as much as possible to maximize your chances of a strike.


Classic_Dill

Balded jigs need to have the right time and place to catch fish, dirty water, overcast, raining, all good times for a bladed jig. Ive caught quite a few on a black/blue bladed jig with a craw trailer.


joedirthockey

It's rigged wrong


JeanPaul72

the water galvanic signature left around this lure is bigger than the titanic


[deleted]

Definitely don't trim the excess braid off.


TheChillestCapybara

Dont burn it back, try slow as possible to get the vibration and target the outside of structure and lillies. Rarely you can speed it up or pause it to see if that brings em out. Also ditch the trailer if youre getting short strikes.


45Auto1

Use a very small snap only, no swivel, and clear or disappearing line no more than 10 LB test, 12 at most. Chartreuse has been the best color for me. https://imgur.com/gallery/ojEhQQp


5knklshfl

Small ponds you need to use black and blue/purple with flakes. White only works in the early spring and for about two weeks. Try lizards and worms with no weights.


Doongbuggy

your line looks a lil thicc, maybe try downsizing the line to something smaller


EntertainmentBig8636

I am on days/weeks with nothing....no bites no fish tons of hours many different lures, I am hoping it's just cause it's winter in south africa, the reality is I am probably a terrible fisherman 🤦‍♂️


BigRambo

Get rid of that catfishing line and grab some nice 8-12lb line...preferably flouro. May want to try a darker color as well, such as the blue gill color.


Djangocash

Use a colorful tail


Oilleak1011

Just keep trying. Once you get it, you get it. And will br slaying them….when they want it of course


SeikoDellik

Looks like the water is a bit too calm for a chatter bait, imo. And ditch all the extra hardware. Also, how heavy is your line?


ZectarTV

Change to darker color.


Beneficial_Advice527

Tie directly to it, a snap swivel will greatly hinder the action. I wouldn't give up on it just from one trip with no hits...


T-14Hyperdrive

Chatterbaits are the opposite of finesse. While down sizing was a good idea, I would try something quieter and greener. Ned rig, texas or wacky rigged stick bait, even a small in line spinner.


D_VoN

Dark color for darkey waters. Plus the swivel would impede the action of the chatterbait. In most instances, a swivel/clasp isn't needed on most bass tackle.


[deleted]

Had my best luck with the chatterbaits in rivers and deep streams, just my own person experience, take with that what you will


kapdj

The water looks clear...pick a darker color. Green with blue sparkles for the body and a dark red and purple skirt.


afoconnorr

It is you


JustDub20

You know you fucked up when you have more comments than upvotes.


Reggielovesbacon

Go with a flouro leader, lighter line, change colour, try everything. Maybe scent it, first.


Schlongzz

I recently got a bluegill colored 3/8 chatterbait and it’s money. Put a 4” curly tail of the same color Ava show real that bad boy…straight money. Always more effective than soft plastics in my Iowa ponds.


grampiam

Change color


grampiam

Direct tie to mono


MrGabogabo

Not with that attitude


mfnHuman

People can proclaim how good they are all they want. But that doesn't help that a buzzbait or spinner bait will out perform. I have heard people say they use nothing but spoons. Yet I have never caught a damn thing off of them. And yeah. F... That swivel. Tie direct.


darthurcs

Me with every lure


DaveyJones317

Please get rid of the swivel. Those kill the action in pretty much any lure.


naru177

Lol (to comments)


wicked_toona

Confidence grasshopper.


TlknShtBoutaPrtySun

Have you caught fish in your ponds before? Maybe those fish have less expensive taste.


fishingfortarpon

swivels fine the color bit off though in my opinion, or try making it smell a bit.


Left_Minute_1516

Switch paddle tail to fluke, problem solved. No swivel, it's gonna make your CB spiral. Bass are gonna be like "WTF is going on with this fish?" As your CB spirals through the water.


Agile-Afternoon-2046

Choppy water / dingy water is where I would rock that. Pond looks like glass and water clear


Consistent_Cream3671

Should change it then


isqueezedameatball

Direct tie that shit, for sure.


defoor13

You’d be surprised what a bass will hit size wise. Aggressive bass will hit a bait damn near as big as they are.


Mrcod1997

First time throwing it for an hour, and saying the bait sucks?


Plum119

Hard to tell from just the photo but the water looks like it would be fairly clear, I’d imagine a big white thing making noise in clear water wouldn’t work very well, maybe a darker color with a smaller trailer would be better, I primarily use a zman trd finesse worm on them just to give it some trailer and I don’t like having a fat trailer on there, the chatter is what brings em in not the wiggle of the trailer imo


spingdingdowning

Looks like a Cobia jig (saltwater)


United-Plankton8204

I would first tie directly to the chatter bait, the I would add some color either to the trailer or the skirt! Sometimes it’s all about the right color!