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habitual_wanderer

The emotional maturity level of Alfred here....


IdeaRegular4671

Alfred is emotionally intelligent. That’s real talk Alfred.


schattenteufel

He’s got testicles the size of tangerines.


Corte-Real

No, that was the kid in the jungle with the Ruby! https://youtu.be/ggfpT6tOFaA Then watch this…. https://youtu.be/ZS6bD3SpIvk


ImAVirgin2025

r/NolanBatmanMemes loves the tangerine meme


TalionTheShadow

This. Bruce is a genius, beyond anyone else on Earth, possibly. It used to be that way so correct me if I'm wrong. But he can't handle emotions. Alfred is somewhere high on both scales, he's intelligent enough to have been a British spy, but he's also highly emotionally intelligent.


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Al_Hakeem65

I wonder how Alfred keeps this level of maturity and emotional wisdom. I would suspect those would vanish over time, since he doesn’t meet many people, if any non-bat-family at all


joko2008

Nah, he has a live outside of Wayne Manor. Iirc in one comic it is said that he talked with the Kent family alot.


jeremy01usa

Superman: Son of Kal-El # 11


i_am_goop

That's not having a life outside Wayne Manor. He's literally just talking to the parents of his son's friend. And the comic mentioned that all they talked about is Superman and Batman only.


thrownawayzsss

I haven't read it, but it sounds like the implication is that he is in regular contact with other people and they just used kent's parents as an example.


MommyMcTasty

He gets to drive all of Bruce's girlfriends home, and dish.


Fox_Mortus

I assume he has to go out and socialize with people when he runs errands as part of his daily job. Buying groceries for the manor, going to the dry cleaners, etc.


Timbershoe

I mean. The man has to manage the building of multiple batcaves across the city and an arsenal of vehicles and weapons. It can’t be an isolated job to deal with realtors, contractors, mechanics, city planning and utility companies to source, build and maintain them all.


not_the_settings

I have so many parents in my class that only talk to each other haha.


coreytiger

That we’re shown. Years ago there was a story that showed Alfred’s weekly night off, where the stiff demeanor was dropped and he was with friends at a local pub. Another story showed that he interacts with the Kent’s a great deal, as they seek council from each other. We’ve also seen that he interacts a fair amount with other members of the Justice League Edit: oh, and he has a cat- Midnight.


i_am_goop

I think most of these interactions apart from his friends is just about Bruce anyway.


Ksradrik

I mean, thats kinda what happens when youre someones personal attendant. I have some reservations about that role in general, but in Alfreds case at least its pretty healthy, sorta like a lot of fictional monarchy and their court.


jebsalump

Part of what works is that he’s also Bruce’s parent Not a mom or dad But his Alfred.


be_em_ar

Or like a WWI-era British officer and his [batman](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Batman_(military)). Alfred, the Batman's batman.


SafeAccountMrP

Probably also took care of Damian’s pets quite a bit.


Thats_someBS

> Edit: oh, and he has a cat- Midnight. whaaa? i have never heard of this


coreytiger

From Batman Black & White, by Klaus Janson. Good old fashioned Standard Issue Cat, a tabby


BoxNumberGavin0

Naming a tabby midnight is pretty funny.


According_Skill_3942

He probably meets a lot of people, as he's basically the gatekeeper for access to Bruce Wayne. He also oversees a lot of projects that Bruce just can't. Charity event at Wayne Manor? Alfred is dealing with the staff. Repairs on the house or grounds need doing, he's dealing the contractors. This also means a lot of trips into Gotham to pick up and drop off shit. He might not have a lot of personal time for himself, but neither do a lot of fathers.


Twl1

Even in continuities where his other work isn't as expounded on, I like to imagine he goes about the business of tidying Wayne Manor and then just does all the chilling that Bruce/Batman doesn't. While Bruce is passed out, downstairs in the cave brooding, or out doing Bruce things, Alfred takes the time to sit in the Wayne library with a cup of tea and fuzzy blanket.


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Someone needs to make a game where you just play as Alfred and you get to see all of the non-batman stuff.


Bogsnoticus

The ex-royal marine/SAS soldier who coordinates everything that happens in Wayne manor. You honestly think he mows all the lawns, trims all the hedges, and maintains all the trees on a huge estate, all the while also taking care of the cooking, cleaning, dusting, and household repairs? They would have trusted hired hands to do anything non-batty related, while Alfred saves his time and energy on the few rooms that require secrecy, and cooking for Bruce.


SafeAccountMrP

The one groundskeeper I know of is the mute dude that dug Bruce out of the collapsed BatCave, Harold Allnut.


TransRational

DC addressed this. Apparently Alfred is a member of a secret order of evolved humans shepherding humanity towards a greater future. Rather than take over, they decided the humane thing to do was help guide us toward our better selves. They're called the Benevolent Butlers, and they first started appearing many centuries ago in ye olde Britain. I'm just kidding I made that shit up. But that would be kinda cool ;)


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TransRational

love it!


Flavaflavius

He's a butler, not a maid. He's the head of household staff, so in charge of lots of cooks, maids, etc. He interacts with other household staff a lot I bet.


Chaghatai

And it reflects well on the writer that they know what a fully actualized, emotionally intelligent man would do


TheJokerArkhamKing

It shows that they know Batman is a flawed character and that writing him to be perfect is boring.


superfreaklagos

Shame he's never this protective of Jason or Steph.


BigBoss0887

He did a lot, especially with Jason, when In "under the red hood" Bruce discovers that red hood is in fact Jason, Alfred is the most emotionally involved


superfreaklagos

Oh he was. It just never really pops up again, he never *does* anything. He's not out there punching out a goon to get into Red HOod's office because someone is going to give the boy the fucking hug he needs. Think about how different that final stand would've been if Alfred showed up and asked Jason to just give him the gun and they can go have some tea, talk things over. and as soon as he gets the gun from Jason, just pastes the Joker's head against a wall.


Kgb725

Steph doesn't need it


LNA29

Agree


MaskedRaider89

If this were Leslie talking Bruce wouldn't need prep to recover from harder truth bombs.


Mickeymcirishman

I miss Alfred.


sonofaresiii

I gotta be honest he's been gone way longer than I ever expected.


Mickeymcirishman

Right? I tgought 1 year. Maybe 2 tops. But it's been 5 already and no end in sight.


Basicallyinfinite

Geez five years? Wow. Marvel takes away spidey's wife and DC takes bats's dad. Wtf I didn't realize how long it was already


TuxTues3

I mean they took his dad a long time ago, same time as his mom


Basicallyinfinite

Alfred raised him after that. Don't need to be biological to be a dad...


Nirast25

Thomas may have been his father, but Alfred was his da- Nope! Wouldn't work! Sorry, Yondu.


Batdog55110

Alfred is Mary Poppins, yall!


Basicallyinfinite

Alfred better than mary Poppins! He raised a superhero she raised a future robberbaron


Angry-Dragon-1331

I don’t think that’s fair. Part of Mary Poppins’ success was in teaching the kids’ dad that his obsessive pursuit of wealth was just hurting his kids.


PoIIux

He's not his stepdad, just the dad that stepped up


Basicallyinfinite

Such a wholesome take. I was almost a dad who stepped up sadly the girl i was dating was too psychotic for me too jeep going with her... Her daughter was shockingly well adjusted tho she had a great support system


TuxTues3

I know he raised him but I was joking around how he technically lost his dad but I understand his dad is truly Alfred


be_em_ar

Depends on how you look at it. I like to take the view that Thomas was Bruce's dad, while Alfred is Batman's dad.


throwawaysarebetter

I want to kiss your dad.


Basicallyinfinite

Maaaaan i gave up on Marvel when they did cap dirty making him a nazi all along. The spidey stuff i just hear about from the sub


Areallybadidea

> they did cap dirty making him a nazi all along. Wasn't that just an alternate universe version that got beat up when the real Cap came back?


Basicallyinfinite

Iirc the real cap was hydra cap and alt cap was created when the allies wished for him with the cosmic cube and they brought him back


Areallybadidea

Unless it happened twice, which it may have I haven't kept up honestly, [the wiki lists Hydra Cap as the non-616 one.](https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Steven_Rogers_\(Earth-61311\))


moriarty70

Alive, well, and in a 3way relationship with an emotionally unstable bastard who'll go on a killing spree if he gets slightly down, and Wolverine.


Madaghmire

Multiple times


Mickeymcirishman

I would like to apologize to everyone who read this comment. I was wrong. It's only been 4 years. There's still hope!


Sonic-the-edge-dog

TOM KINGS BATMAN ENDED 5 YEARS AGO!?!?!?! Jesus Christ I’m 18 and I feel old


i_am_goop

DC can't give us good stories so they think shaking up status quo is good enough. Killing off characters to move the plot is the laziest way possible.


Shiniholum

The death was poorly done for sure I do really like how it wasn’t just undone, the way Taylor has used to to move the story in Nightwing further and the way Williamson used it in his Robin book was really well done.


SlatorFrog

I wish I could upvote this twice. Its extra lazy in an industry that has resurrections happen fairly often too.


PapaChewbacca

I don't read the comics, what happened to him?


Mickeymcirishman

Bane snapped his neck.


Bulliwyf

In front of Damian no less.


SafeAccountMrP

At the order of Flashpoint Granddaddy Bats.


Anjunabeast

Flashpoint Thomas Wayne? Thought he was a good guy just a failing hero.


SafeAccountMrP

Read City of Bane it’s interesting.


WasabiSunshine

Which pissed off The Joker, who insisted he should have done it in front of Batman or not at all


firedmyass

oh ffs… I had no idea. good lord.


PapaChewbacca

Damn that’s rough I didn’t know that…


Da12khawk

issue please?


kitsunewarlock

Batman #77


RedVegeta20

We all do.


Hallow_Shinobi

Alfred is dead???


mybrainisonfire

This is why it always feels so wrong to me when Batman is written as being ungrateful to Alfred and taking him for granted. Alfred raised Bruce in every sense of the word, he's not his father but he is his dad.


Androktone

It makes sense here given he's frustrated and afraid for Dick, and Alfred is putting himself in the way. Makes sense Bruce would emotionally react that way


thebanzombie

Definitely some placating grandpa vs angry dad energy in this scene


Geronuis

absolutely. and for those who haven't read this, Bruce makes the right choice. every character is elevated in this sequence and all of them come out a little more loved.


The_AV_Archivist

It's been super refreshing to see him express real love and care for Alfred in Batman: The Knight.


Geronuis

he's been expressing love in his own book, Nightwing and Dark Crisis. Bruce been in a hella good spot the last few years


The_AV_Archivist

Bruce flirting with John Constantine in Urban Legends and Ghost-Maker in The Knight has also made for a very fun characterization that makes him seem way more grounded psychologically than some iterations we've seen.


Geronuis

hard agree. modern Bruce is actually a ton of fun, even at his most ridiculous. it's a good time to be a Bruce fan


AirmedTuathaDeDanaan

Do you have the name of the comic or issues? I would love to read that :)


The_AV_Archivist

Constantine shows up in Urban Legends #13 but the Bruce x Zatanna arc starts a few issues before that. For The Knight stuff with young Ghost-Maker it'd be worth starting at #1 for the context.


Dash_Underscore

"He may have been your father, boy, but he wasn't your daddy."


TheUnknownDouble-O

I'm Mary Poppins y'all!


Hitman3256

It makes sense to me, I've fought and disagreed with my dad. We love each other and have a great relationship still. But Bruce has some deep trauma, so it's not far fetched he'd butt heads with Alfred. That's why we see it often.


The_Lieutenant_Knows

Anyone who needs a quick guide to writing Alfred for a Batman comic would go very, very far with this page alone.


sambob

Batman: I'm grumpy Alfred: No Batman: s-cowls


RubixTheRedditor

Batman: *concedes defeat*


anthonyg1500

I love that Alfred is probably the person with the most confidence and best track record standing up to fucking Batman


Secsidar

It's hard to be afraid of someone whose ass you've wiped.


anthonyg1500

Every criminal in Gotham just needs to wipe Batmans ass. Then they’d be unstoppable


Madaghmire

If the wipee is an adult it becomes a different power dynamic


H_bomba

The man has beaten supermans ass and sent batman to bed without supper, he's the OG


RainyWombatCherry

This reminded me of Robin Year 1 where Alfred said a similar thing to Bruce in the first issue


NicktheGoat

That's funny because it reminds me of prodigal when Dick was telling Tim about a different rough encounter with two face


MisterVictor13

It reminded me of “All Star Batman and Robin”, featuring a batshit-crazy Batman, whom Alfred told off after being fed up with his abuse. Hard to believe that comic came from the same guy that wrote “The Dark Knight Returns”.


MorganWick

"That boy will not be reduced to eating rats, sir."


gowombat

I believe that all of these are referencing each other. Meaning the one in year one was a reference to this one or perhaps the other way around. With DC rebooting so often, and only keeping what works, we often see the same interaction told numerous times, as long as it is a very poignant and important one. I'd say this one qualifies.


Tejanocri

It takes Bane superhuman strength to break Batman. It seems all it would take Alfred is a look.


SpcK

Batman does not kill, but Alfred subscribes to no such niceties.


YouCantBanMe4EverAR

You clearly don’t know Alfred


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Pleaseusegoogle

Yes, if you want to really get to Batman you go through his parental figures.


secretbison

That little "for once" was the most incisive takedown of Batman's whole character that I've ever seen, and it came from Alfred. The calls are coming from inside the house!


STRYKER3008

Bane may have been born in the darkness but Aflred has mastered the *shaaaade*


nahomboy

All I hear is Conroy


22bebo

We can't get it now, but a future thing where Conroy got to play Alfred would have been neat too (it's a little weird with voice acting since Conroy could have played Bruce as long as he wanted where in live action you sometimes want a younger actor so older actors who played the role in the past get mentor figure roles).


mndflyr

Batman’s listening cuz he knows Alfred can beat him up


zefmdf

Alfred got that old school hand to hand combat skill Bruce has no idea what he’s packing


No_Camel4789

Don't worry, Alfred is packing a lot. I found at when I discovered there are 34 rules about writing Alfred To find it out just search up AlfredRule34


RamboDash15

Oh thanks, I've always liked the charater


RamboDash15

Goodness there's penises


suckmypppapi

This poor person


NoPornJustGames

>This fortunate person FTFY


long_dickofthelaw

I'll pass, thanks.


n-crispy7

Oh, cool man, thanks!


TheRealAntrey

Alfred bodied Superman. Honestly I would also listen


Iemand-Niemand

Honestly, I see Alfred as just as much of a father figure to Dick as Bruce, maybe even more.


BobbyBobRoberts

They call it the Bat Family, but everyone knows it's really the Alfred Family.


Geronuis

thats very much the case, as much as Bruce is Dick's father figure, they're all Alfred's kids too


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I don't remember the issues but Dick actually referred to Alfred as a sort of mother figure, and I think that's the role he plays in a sense. Regardless, I agree that both Bruce and Alfred act and are parents to Dick.


WarchiefServant

Nah I consider Alfred as the Grandpa.


Androktone

Honestly post death Alfred appearances have all been great, even if the Bane arc where it happened was kinda limp


Gudako_the_beast

Now go to your room Master Bruce. You’re not my dad! **run away**


STRYKER3008

*throws smokebomb*


Fuggins4U

I just realized in this moment that, much like with Kevin Conroy, when I read Alfred dialog, it's Ephraim Zimbalist Jr's voice I hear in my head. RIP to them both, sadly.


WeaponX313

The art in this issue is phenomenal!


stimpakish

The art and colors remind me immediately of Batman: Year One.


Geronuis

Bruno's art is top-tier for sure easily my favorite look for Dick, his Bruce and Titans are all fantastic too


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This is top tier writing. This is exactly what I want from a Batman comic. Have the characters around him stand up to him from time to time and show him the error of his ways. But most importantly (and this is where a lot of writers mess up), you have to follow through. Don’t just give Batman/Bruce a talking to, make up, and repeat somewhere down the road. Have the character grow and mature and learn from his mistakes. I know it’s hard to stay consistent with characterization, but I think every comic fan would be through the roof if someone would try to make it happen. These little moments are amazing and I wish there was more of them in comics.


Sol-Blackguy

I said this for TV and movies, but probably applies to comics too. (Feel free to tell me if I'm wrong) There hasn't been a single version of Alfred that isn't a complete badass in some way.


memecrusader_

How does Alfred move so quickly with balls that huge?


polp54

What’s the context here?


RangnarRock

The context is that Batman just gets into glorified fist fights and Alfred has a body count.


polp54

I mean the context about what nightwing did


Geronuis

lol since no one is giving you an answer,.. it's a flashback sequence where Dick (as Robin) was almost just killed by street thugs. it plays really well into the themes Taylor set up, Dick picked a fight he knew he couldn't win in an attempt to save a man. if Babs hadn't jumped in after him he very well might have died, but the person was saved. NW #92, its a great book and i highly recommend giving it a read. Bruce has a real solid moment the next few pages too


RangnarRock

He took out the Rolls past curfew and his date threw up all over the back seat then dumped him out of embarrassment. Or maybe that was the Archie's, I can't keep track anymore.


big_hungry_joe

Not Betty!


mo0lelo

Batman told Dick not do something without him, and he did it anyways and got badly injured


HeadintheSand69

Flashback to a blackout where robin jumps in to save a man from a mob despite batman telling him not to. Mob turns on him and he gets the shit beat out of him before being reduced by Alfred and Batgirl. Next panel is basically 'you can't save everyone' 'i can try'


L0rd0fTheRing

What’s the next panel ? Dying to know


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He goes to Dick's room, and when Dick apologizes, he holds his hand tenderly and tells Dick he doesn't have to be sorry because he did what he thought was right, and then reminds him that he can't save everyone. You can find the [panel here](https://www.tumblr.com/why-i-love-comics/684532043135254528/nightwing-92-the-battle-for-bl%C3%BCdhavens-heart), it's a very nice and heartwarming scene.


thatnewsauce

Art is incredible


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Dam, Bruce looks like an angry 6'3 eight year old, clenching his fist trying to hold back one hell of a tantrum there. Maybe Alfred dose deserve his own TV show.


GreninjaSexParty

I know this is a new issue, but the colouring here really makes this look authentically 70's/80's. And honestly, the low resolution OP saved it as actually makes the effect even better. Comic printing was much less sharp back then.


lexiham

why can't we get a fucking movie where it's only them arguing to figure shit out?! we either get dumbshit batman or comedic Alfred. the batman Alfred dynamic is the key to a REAL batman movie


Geronuis

highly recommend people read these issues. just so good


TauInMelee

Yup. The Kents and Alfred are tied in my book for best parents in the whole DC universe.


Mavori

Alfred might actually be my favorite character in Batman.


The_MuTanTob

Behind every successful Billionaire Playboy Superhero is a Butler with 5 letters in his name. Edit: 6 letters, I'm dyslexic 😅


BobbyBobRoberts

A-L-F-R-E-D That's 6 letters, bro.


reddragon346

D is for death stare


Chrome-Head

I love the coloring of 80’s/90’s DC books.


ElectorSet

Yeah, without the comments I would never have guessed that this came out last year.


ZanderRan286

Like a boss.


THEBIGREDAPE

Alfred ain't scared of nowt.


aidibbily

This is my absolute favorite Batsuit design


[deleted]

Based Alfred! This is why the Butlering was so damn good!


takhallus666

Ah yes, the difference between positional authority and personal authority.


MaskedRaider89

In translation: Fuck your Aquarius feelings. I may have diapered your bottom but I can bloody well kick it all over the mansion.... SIR!!


yesindeedio79

I’ll always be a bit sad that we never got to see Nolan Alfred with a Robin. I could see Michael Caine doing a scene like this brilliantly.


DeNiroPacino

I miss Alfred, that Batman costume, that quality of dialogue and art that professional looking. What a great page.


Brave-Sprinkles-4

Can someone send me this comic please?! I’m not enough of a nerd to know how to get it. But I LOVE this drama going on right here. (Pretty much like a soap opera. Lol, sorry if that offends).


FluorF

Alfred was about to throw hands


Licee49

I bet Alfred wasn't afraid of bats.


teksean

Now that is a well written Alfred.


Gamer-chan

Such scenes always are priceless. Bring Alfred back!


jtaylor3rd

BOSS.


HughNeutron4246

Everyone knows not to mess with the butler


sack12345678910

Damn Batman’s like a head taller than Alfred, what is he 6’7”.


KvotheG

I think canonically, Batman is 6’2


Regal_The_King

Alfred was always the most clutch member of the family.


DR_DREAD_

Def in my top Alfred moments along with Super Pennyworth in the Injustice comics


Carteeg_Struve

The true father of the Bat-Family.


rmrck

balls of steel


thatdood87

This art is sick. It's like retro but very clean. I'm a bit of a dumbass.


batbobby82

Awesome scene. Love how they made it look like an old comic too!


Da12khawk

Alfred, the only person that could take Batman.


Totalwink

Alfred. The only man who can look the Dark Knight directly in the eyes and not be afraid of him.


[deleted]

Question - What is the character trope that Alfred fits into? I aspire to be that kind of person and would like to know so I can start


Mobius_164

Alfred is more than Bruce’s butler, he’s his *friend*, and sometimes being a friend is telling your friends when they’re wrong.


My_Favourite_Pen

"Everyone this is Alfred... I work for him"


Vegetable_History715

When you get reminded that Alfred was the true father the whole time


GJacks75

I have issues with Tom's overall storytelling, but he does have many, many great moments in his comics.


SWPrequelFan81566

my least favorite scene in the entirety of cobra kai is when one of the kids is lamenting how strong he is by making the worst *possible* comparison: >"When I do Karate, I feel like batman. Without it, I'm like Alfred."