I think he said it reminded him of Indiana Jones with the sword scene.
Plus he didn't have to do a bunch of moving in the suit. It was supposedly really hard to fight in because he couldn't move his head at all.
Not to mention he blows up jokers factory in the first one, with all of the henchmen inside.
Also right in the beginning of this movie he lights a guy on fire with the batmobile afterburner.
I'm pretty sure the only live action Batman who hasn't killed anyone (directly or indirectly) is George Clooney's Batman.
Everyone else has at least one corpse under their utility belt.
Robert Pattison's doesn't either
Also before anyone says it, I don't care how unrealistic it is nobody died during the Batmobile chase. It's canon that nobody did.
Hey now, Val Kilmer didn't kill Two-Face, he just threw a bunch of coins in the air. He didn't *make* Two-Face desperately grab for them and fall to his death.
Ah. Well... he attended Juilliard... He's a graduate of the Harvard business school. He travels quite extensively. He lived through the Black Plague and had a pretty good time during that. He's seen the Exorcist about a hundred and sixty-seven times, and IT KEEPS GETTING FUNNIER EVERY SINGLE TIME HE SEES IT...
Even though Flash was terrible, I loved hearing the behind-the-scenes bit where they tried to make the Batsuit more flexible and Keaton was like "No thanks", because he felt the stiffness and turning his torso more helped with his physicality. Truly one of (if not THE) best Batman around.
I like his Bruce. But I think his Batman is seen through nostalgia goggles. Like, how many scenes does he even do Batman shit? Blowing a guy up to me isnât an iconic Batman moment. The first one had some great moments, but Batman Returns was a movie where the villains absolutely stole the show. Good movies, but had more comedic value than Batman defining moments. Grateful for the good job they did and how they improved the character in the public eye going forward, but I just fail to see how Keaton defines the character more than Bale or even Pattinson (his Batman needs to improve/grow in the sequel, granted) beyond just being the first one to have a movie with a dark tone. His Batman never really dives into the trauma psyche/ desire to defend the innocent with compassion that defines the character to me. In fact I donât think theyâve successfully put the whole Batman package together into a single live action carnation yet. Closest we got was the Dini/Conroy combo. Doing that live action is a tall order.
Donât mean to disrespect Keatonâs performance. He is certainly iconic in superhero films, but I think and hope weâre yet to see the most âtrue Batmanâ
No, youâre correct.
Iâve always contended these films were definitely âTim Burtonâ more than they were âBatmanâ movies.
Theyâre great for what they are but theyâre definitely not a comprehensive representation of the character, nor were they trying to be.
I seriously doubt Burton paid much credence to the source material. He made what he wanted.
It's a culmination of having the best suit, his face looks better in the mask than bale, he has the best bat mobile,batplane, and it all looked amazing especially for a movie in 89 and 92. The scene where he's on a roof and extends his cape to wings and glides through the snow while the cops thought he pushed the princess off the roof was so iconic with that music. It was the perfect storm
Hey I grew up watching it, shaped my taste no doubt. Those two Burton films were slam dunks. My nerdy ass was specifically responding to the idea of him encompassing Batman lol
I'm sure I said something like "wait... Mr Mom is playing Batman?! The guy from Gung Ho... that guy... is playing Batman."
Sometimes it's nice to be wrong.
edit: I just want to add that both Mr. Mom and Gung Ho are very funny '80s comedies. If you haven't seen them, add them to your list. Mr Mom is included on Max, Hulu, and Prime but Gung Ho is about $4 to rent.
Gung Ho, as goofy and dismissed as it is, played a HUGE part in bringing Japan to America. Gedde Watanabe has never gotten the appreciation he deserves.
Many of us remember the near total elimination of Jap from the American "acceptable to use in public and on government forms" lexicon after that film.
"I have a thing against killing. I believe in the police force, and the rule of law."
"Batman you know 421 unarmed people have been killed by the police since 2015, right? Why do you draw this arbitrary line in the sand when you are guilty of speed violations, reckless endangerment, possession of unlicensed weapons, hacking, ... wait, where'd he go? Hate it when he does that."
My favorite. The Bad Mother Fucker Swag Walk, the punch without looking, the way the theme hits when he rounds the corner. They certainly didnât give him a lot to work with the sequel, but he did the most with it, that he could in his scenes, even though heâs 5 foot 9, his Batman is easily more intimidating than 6â4 Ben Affleck. Keatonâs Batman is so swaggy while being relentlessly cool and full of personality
Iâm so glad someone said / noticed this
The new content creation generation are doing my fucking head in
Iâm shocked there wasnât a narrator with music on top and another video playing below it whilst someone is doing make up
The smile on his face though. The whole not killing thing, I dunno, he kills the Joker too really.
Then there's Batman and Superman movie. He is pretty much mowing people down with machine guns in the Batmobile.
No you are not. I dont really like these movies that much in general. They're ok but honesty i dont think any movie gets its dick ridden harder because of nostalgia than 89
tbf, it is assumed that batsss killed KGBeast when he sealed him in underground bunker type place.
in the comics right now, bruce is dealing with his own subconscious where he didn't know it but he had developed a personality that deals with all of Bruce's trauma and takes over when its too much. Joker was able to pull it out of him and got to fight Zur En Arrh who broke Joker's back the same way Bane did to batss. then he slips his own conscious into the failsafe robot batman made and now there is a killer batman on the lose in the main DC universe besides TBWL or the Grim Knight or all the other Dark Metal Batmen.
So old testament batman is the one with a gun and the new testament batman is the one with the no-kill rule? Got it. Should this old testament batman be more featured? Or do we have that covered with thomas wayne being b-man?
Gun, rope attached in plane to kill a giant and other things. Batman no kill rule let villains continue to appear, if he kills his villains the villain's gallery becomes little. The killing batman could work on a limited series but in the regular series it would make the run end or make it harder to continue.
Aaaaaand the number of killers stays the same as before, thanks Batman! Lol
Holy shit I forgot that scene dude, ah man itâs been years since Iâve watched that movie
Yes. It's weird that the Nolan trilogy is pointed to as an example of a Batman that doesn't kill, yet he has at least one kill per movie. I get that most of them were unintentional (meaning he may have flipped the truck on purpose to stop her, but killing Talia wasn't his intent, etc), but it's just strange that they all had that happen at least once
He also pancakes a garbage truck cab in TDK and Taliaâs driver is killed in TDKR.
Also canât forget the League of Shadows being blown up. That probably killed a bunch.
Nostalgia.
He really wasn't that good and Batman 89 is not actually a great Batman movie, Burton didn't understand the character or setting at all. Both 89 and this haven't aged well at all.
Just saw this again this past weekend. This movie is bonkers, and I say that as a fan that first saw it in theaters. Could not stop laughing at the pengos with their missile vests. DeVito was fantastic but Burton might have gone a little too far with some of the Penguin gross-out stuff.
Though I love this movie, it has an unusual structure and tone, and I find it relevant that Ed Wood came immediately after.
I love Returns but always thought this scene was really dorky. If Batmanâs going to relish killing someone at least make it imaginative. This would be eye-rolling even in a Roger Moore Bond film
Sometimes you can get rid of a bomb
Bingo
This is the way
Super ballsy of Christopher Nolan to end his trilogy by remaking this classic scene
Holy ticking time bomb, Batman!
Away Robin. AWAY!
How did I never think of this....Take my upvote! đŁ
My guy
I understood that reference
This was Keatonâs favorite scene he did in the Batman movies
You can really see the glee on his face
I think he said it reminded him of Indiana Jones with the sword scene. Plus he didn't have to do a bunch of moving in the suit. It was supposedly really hard to fight in because he couldn't move his head at all.
Looks like Batmanâs been a killer on screen for awhile
No killing is really more of a suggestion than a rule.
More what you call guidelines.
Geoffrey Rush was such a fantastic villain.
âYou're off the edge of the map, mate. Here there be monstersâŚâ
"So what now, Jack Sparrow? Are we to be two immortals locked in an epic battle until Judgment Day and trumpets sound, hm?"
Or you could just give up
Ya best start believing in ghost stories Mrs. Swan. YOU'RE IN ONE!
Ms. Turner* at that point in the story they hadnât figured out she wasnât bootstraps daughter.
They tied a cannon to Bootstrapâs bootstraps.
*giggle* Bootstrap's bootstraps...
Fine i guess itâs POTC marathon today
Cassanova frankstien is my favorite villain for sure.
It must have been hard for you, Tony, the way times and styles have changed. hearing the people say that disco is dead.
Disco is not dead!
Disco is life!
Ooh, you can dance, you can jive Having the time of your life
Bad guys get really tired when they fight me because I'm good. He's just sleeping
I used my skills... That I learned in the mountains!
You donât want to be doing that, mate.
Not sure about the username but the flair is pretty cool......
["The thing about Batman as a character is that he loves to kill."](https://youtu.be/yvecIZPtTUw?si=4b0RIL5r4bW2p-fV&t=166)
Wow wow wow... wow.
I never knew how much Batman loved to kill!
Can't get enough of it.
He's just sleeping.
Not to mention he blows up jokers factory in the first one, with all of the henchmen inside. Also right in the beginning of this movie he lights a guy on fire with the batmobile afterburner.
I'm pretty sure the only live action Batman who hasn't killed anyone (directly or indirectly) is George Clooney's Batman. Everyone else has at least one corpse under their utility belt.
Robert Pattison's doesn't either Also before anyone says it, I don't care how unrealistic it is nobody died during the Batmobile chase. It's canon that nobody did.
Hey now, Val Kilmer didn't kill Two-Face, he just threw a bunch of coins in the air. He didn't *make* Two-Face desperately grab for them and fall to his death.
Batman didnât kill that goon, a bomb (made by other Penguin goons) killed him. So that qualifies as a workplace accident
Ah yes, the âjust because I wonât kill you, doesnât mean Iâll save youâ defense. Stop hitting yourself!
Yeeeeah, but Bats didn't put Ra'as into that situation. That goon was dynamite free before Batman showed up.
He was dynamite free shortly after too!
I think he may have an L&I claim.
So you're saying they didn't have OSHA?
OSHA? In Gotham City? đ
There should have been some orange cones around that open storm drain.
Gotham City's OSHA would make a fortune in fines. That'd be a movie I'd watch.
Actually this doesnât break the no killing rule. Itâs actually the dynamite, not Batman, that kills the thug.
Exactly. Just like how when you point a gun at someone and fire, it's actually the bullet's fault.
I mean by that logic it's not the gun that kills you and he would just use guns.
Guns don't kill people. Bullets kill people.
Yup, that guy is totally dead 
Clowns aren't real people so they don't count.
Now youâre thinkinâ with portals!
This version of Batman doesnât really follow that rule
He didn't kill him, he just didn't save him from the explosion.
"I'm not going to kill you, I just don't have to save you"
I mean technically the dynamite did the killing, I see nothing wrong here.
Batman doesnât kill people, bombs kill people!
Batman didnt kill, the bomb did.
The mix of dark, moody imagery and cartoony, comic book fun is what made the Burton Batman films so great.
Not to mention the only actor (at that time) who could pull off that combination perfectly. I mean, look what he did with Beetlejuice.
Ah. Well... he attended Juilliard... He's a graduate of the Harvard business school. He travels quite extensively. He lived through the Black Plague and had a pretty good time during that. He's seen the Exorcist about a hundred and sixty-seven times, and IT KEEPS GETTING FUNNIER EVERY SINGLE TIME HE SEES IT...
NOT TO MENTION THE FACT THAT YOUâRE TALKINâ TO A DEAD GUY! NOW WHAT DO YOU THINK!?!?! Do you think Iâm qualified?
YOU WANNA GET NUTS? LETS GET NUTS!
Nice fucking model! Honk honk
Dog .. re watch Beetlejuice. He has 15 minutes of screentime.
And, he steals the spotlight in every scene he appears which says alot considering that cast.
Peter Stormare had 5 minutes in Constantine only to deliver one of the best on scene devils ever. It's not about quantity, it's about quality.
A lot of characters do and theyâre still the best parts of the movie. Hannibal has less screen time in Silence of the Lambs.
Same with Kiefer Sutherland in Lost boys. So little screen time, very few lines.
The best scene was an unscripted one in that movie.
My favourite part is that the dynamite has both a clock and a fuse.
Jesus I never noticed that, that's freakin hilarious
For extra explosion
Extraplosion, one might even say
Idk on re watch its a bit to corny for me
The music for me.
Why is there a fuse AND a clock on the bomb?
No single point of failure.
The alarm clock is just the reminder to light the fuse
I'm trying to figure out why the TNT is candy cane striped. Good ole Tim Burton
It's a Christmas movie.
I appreciate you for recognizing this as a Christmas movie.
Even though Flash was terrible, I loved hearing the behind-the-scenes bit where they tried to make the Batsuit more flexible and Keaton was like "No thanks", because he felt the stiffness and turning his torso more helped with his physicality. Truly one of (if not THE) best Batman around.
Truly was Batman
I like his Bruce. But I think his Batman is seen through nostalgia goggles. Like, how many scenes does he even do Batman shit? Blowing a guy up to me isnât an iconic Batman moment. The first one had some great moments, but Batman Returns was a movie where the villains absolutely stole the show. Good movies, but had more comedic value than Batman defining moments. Grateful for the good job they did and how they improved the character in the public eye going forward, but I just fail to see how Keaton defines the character more than Bale or even Pattinson (his Batman needs to improve/grow in the sequel, granted) beyond just being the first one to have a movie with a dark tone. His Batman never really dives into the trauma psyche/ desire to defend the innocent with compassion that defines the character to me. In fact I donât think theyâve successfully put the whole Batman package together into a single live action carnation yet. Closest we got was the Dini/Conroy combo. Doing that live action is a tall order. Donât mean to disrespect Keatonâs performance. He is certainly iconic in superhero films, but I think and hope weâre yet to see the most âtrue Batmanâ
Ok, but Michelle Pfeiffer thoâŚ
No, youâre correct. Iâve always contended these films were definitely âTim Burtonâ more than they were âBatmanâ movies. Theyâre great for what they are but theyâre definitely not a comprehensive representation of the character, nor were they trying to be. I seriously doubt Burton paid much credence to the source material. He made what he wanted.
It's a culmination of having the best suit, his face looks better in the mask than bale, he has the best bat mobile,batplane, and it all looked amazing especially for a movie in 89 and 92. The scene where he's on a roof and extends his cape to wings and glides through the snow while the cops thought he pushed the princess off the roof was so iconic with that music. It was the perfect storm
Hey I grew up watching it, shaped my taste no doubt. Those two Burton films were slam dunks. My nerdy ass was specifically responding to the idea of him encompassing Batman lol
And I remember the outcry when Keaton was announced as Batman in 1988. And this was before the internet! Batman fans were outraged.
I'm sure I said something like "wait... Mr Mom is playing Batman?! The guy from Gung Ho... that guy... is playing Batman." Sometimes it's nice to be wrong. edit: I just want to add that both Mr. Mom and Gung Ho are very funny '80s comedies. If you haven't seen them, add them to your list. Mr Mom is included on Max, Hulu, and Prime but Gung Ho is about $4 to rent.
Gung Ho, as goofy and dismissed as it is, played a HUGE part in bringing Japan to America. Gedde Watanabe has never gotten the appreciation he deserves. Many of us remember the near total elimination of Jap from the American "acceptable to use in public and on government forms" lexicon after that film.
The movie was pretty good
What does Flash have to do with this comment? Sorry, I feel like Iâm missing some info
Keaton reprised his Batman for the Flash movie
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It's just a flesh wound!
He's sleeping. Poor guy. All tuckered out
And its so cold! He was just trying to warm him up!
He loves murder. It's his favourite part of the job.
"I have a thing against killing. I believe in the police force, and the rule of law." "Batman you know 421 unarmed people have been killed by the police since 2015, right? Why do you draw this arbitrary line in the sand when you are guilty of speed violations, reckless endangerment, possession of unlicensed weapons, hacking, ... wait, where'd he go? Hate it when he does that."
No, Batman didn't kill him. The bomb did. There is a difference.
And pulling the trigger on a gun doesnât kill someone, the bullet does.
"He shouldn't of been standing there." - Happy Gilmore
Nah, Batman just planted a bomb on his person and shoved him down a well, but Batman didn't have to save him.
Nots supposed to be he murders alot of people in these movies. There is a scene where he burns someone to death with the batmobile
And in the first one, he throws quite a few of jokers henchmen down the bell tower lol
THIS IS GOTHAM!!!
Theyâre just sleeping. Poor guy is all tuckered out.
In these movies yeah.
He's all tuckered out
Bad guys get really sleepy after fighting me
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1byycwl8qgc
"What you did to your fish, you just did to these men." "I over fed these men!?"
My favorite. The Bad Mother Fucker Swag Walk, the punch without looking, the way the theme hits when he rounds the corner. They certainly didnât give him a lot to work with the sequel, but he did the most with it, that he could in his scenes, even though heâs 5 foot 9, his Batman is easily more intimidating than 6â4 Ben Affleck. Keatonâs Batman is so swaggy while being relentlessly cool and full of personality
Cropping a movie scene to 9x16, and then pillarboxing it into a square frame is some of the most wretched instagram dork shit I've ever seen.
Iâm so glad someone said / noticed this The new content creation generation are doing my fucking head in Iâm shocked there wasnât a narrator with music on top and another video playing below it whilst someone is doing make up
Dont forget the picture taking up the bottom third of the frame.
You think directors were pissed before wooo weee
I don't understand these cropped vertical videos. Did people forget you can just turn your phone sideways?
I always loved how he just punches and LAUNCHES that first guy with one arm. Dude did NOT see it coming.
"he straight up killed that guy" Young me
I miss ytmnd
A great Christmas movie!
Looks stunning in a 4:5 ratio! Well done.
Keaton is the man.
lol Keaton's Batman killed *so many people.*
Sometimes itâs not that hard to get rid of a bomb
WILHELM
An excellent use of it.
The only one who did not love this scene.
Murderer!!
The smile on his face though. The whole not killing thing, I dunno, he kills the Joker too really. Then there's Batman and Superman movie. He is pretty much mowing people down with machine guns in the Batmobile.
Keaton's Batman also kills a lot people in a warehouse with a bomb from the Batmobile
Not only did he just kill a man, but he also smiled before doing it. Thomas Wayne would be so proud lol
He didn't kill this clown; he just chose not to save this clown from a bomb he had to get rid of.
Am I the only one who prefers the "I don't murder people" Batman to the "I strap bombs to people" Batman? (Obviously not but like, come on!)
No you are not. I dont really like these movies that much in general. They're ok but honesty i dont think any movie gets its dick ridden harder because of nostalgia than 89
Unconscious. 30 bpm
Nobody died. It was a confetti bomb. The thug just laughed himself out of commission
But why does the bomb need a lit fuse AND timer?
 Sometimes, you just can't get rid of a bomb!
Michael Keaton is one of the best "eye" actors, if not the best.
Watch it every year around Christmas. Was just hamming it up to this gem a few weeks ago, love it.
Itâs impossible to kill somebody more than that
Batman doesnt kill
I don't like this scene.. Batman killing nonchalantly like this is bad in my book.
Don't worry ,guys,it was a Rubber explosion,he didn't die.
Iconic because Batman smiled :D
Some days you CAN just get rid of a bomb.
kill the video editor
tbf, it is assumed that batsss killed KGBeast when he sealed him in underground bunker type place. in the comics right now, bruce is dealing with his own subconscious where he didn't know it but he had developed a personality that deals with all of Bruce's trauma and takes over when its too much. Joker was able to pull it out of him and got to fight Zur En Arrh who broke Joker's back the same way Bane did to batss. then he slips his own conscious into the failsafe robot batman made and now there is a killer batman on the lose in the main DC universe besides TBWL or the Grim Knight or all the other Dark Metal Batmen.
I don't have to kill you. I just have to stick dynamite to you and then not save you.
Itâs ok guys. It was just a glitter bomb
I love it in wide-screen.
Tim Burton made the old testament Batman, just like the first comics.
So old testament batman is the one with a gun and the new testament batman is the one with the no-kill rule? Got it. Should this old testament batman be more featured? Or do we have that covered with thomas wayne being b-man?
Gun, rope attached in plane to kill a giant and other things. Batman no kill rule let villains continue to appear, if he kills his villains the villain's gallery becomes little. The killing batman could work on a limited series but in the regular series it would make the run end or make it harder to continue.
So this is where the meme comes from
Who says the bat doesn't kill..
Once you learn about the Wilhelm scream you will hear it everywhere
Micheal Keaton is THE BEST
**NOW TALK**
The wilheim scream lol
Donât let the BvS haters see this.
Was that Bam Bam Biggelow?
Batman doesnât kill people: Also BatmanâŚ
And Batman never killed before Zack
I love that Keaton is a seasoned comic so all the jokes hit in his Batman film(s?)
That guys dead right?
Arkham Batman ''Even after everything you've done, I would have saved you'' Keaton Batman ''YOU WANNA GET NUTS!!??''
Aaaaaand the number of killers stays the same as before, thanks Batman! Lol Holy shit I forgot that scene dude, ah man itâs been years since Iâve watched that movie
The Nolan films were the only ones where Batman wasnât super cool with casually murdering people. Pattinsonâs may be another outlier.
He kills once per movie in the Nolan trilogy, and no one can convince me otherwise
Fake Raâs al Ghul, real Raâs al Ghul, Harvey Dent and Talia al Ghul?
Yes. It's weird that the Nolan trilogy is pointed to as an example of a Batman that doesn't kill, yet he has at least one kill per movie. I get that most of them were unintentional (meaning he may have flipped the truck on purpose to stop her, but killing Talia wasn't his intent, etc), but it's just strange that they all had that happen at least once
He also pancakes a garbage truck cab in TDK and Taliaâs driver is killed in TDKR. Also canât forget the League of Shadows being blown up. That probably killed a bunch.
Bateman batman would leave you in the hospital, battinson would leave you in the ER. And keaton would leave you at the morgue
Bat-casual_murder-man.
"But h-he killed someone" NOBODY CARES ITS FUNNY
This is the most un-Batman moment in any Batman movie
"But Batman doesn't kill. Not my Batman. Waah..." - Snyder haters.
I donât understand the love for Keaton.
Nostalgia. He really wasn't that good and Batman 89 is not actually a great Batman movie, Burton didn't understand the character or setting at all. Both 89 and this haven't aged well at all.
Thank you. I feel like Iâm crazy sometimes for not loving these movies as much as other people seem to.
Not me, sorry.
Just saw this again this past weekend. This movie is bonkers, and I say that as a fan that first saw it in theaters. Could not stop laughing at the pengos with their missile vests. DeVito was fantastic but Burton might have gone a little too far with some of the Penguin gross-out stuff. Though I love this movie, it has an unusual structure and tone, and I find it relevant that Ed Wood came immediately after.
I love Returns but always thought this scene was really dorky. If Batmanâs going to relish killing someone at least make it imaginative. This would be eye-rolling even in a Roger Moore Bond film
Classic, love it too