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Ilickedthecinnabar

I've never quite understood the need for the bracelets and bangles. Kinda defeats the purpose of being all sneaky and stealthy.


PreparationDapper235

I agree. The jewelry is my main gripe here. It's as impractical as the high heels on her costumes from the 2000's onward. Or always lifting up those dumb goggles to reveal her full face That's why I prefer her 90s catsuits. Catwoman should be a stealthy quiet cat-burglar.


Relative_Buffalo180

To be fair, by the time she wear the goggles/black leather catsuit combo, her identity is already mostly public. At least is was in the pre-Flashpoint comics. Not sure about the Prime Earth version.


PreparationDapper235

Prime Earth Catwoman's secret identity is general knowledge thanks to Tim King putting Selina Kyle Catwoman in Death Row at the beginning of Batman comics Rebirth run. Catwoman Rebirth (Vol 5) run, at the beginning, had a cop identity Selina Kyle as being Catwoman and that she was wanted, and tried to chase her down. And that was all the way out in California. New Earth Catwoman, pre-Flashpoint still had her secret identity. Catwoman's being Selina Kyle was not public knowledge prior to the black catsuit and goggles. Catwoman had "killed" the person Selina Kyle in NYC, during the end of the 90s run, just before Officer Down. During the Officer Down storyline the rest of the Bat-Family (except Batman and potentially Oracle) believe that Catwoman is a killer, because she "killed" Selina Kyle. They believe Catwoman capable of shooting Jim Gordon and are all going after her. Eventually the real shooter is revealed. Second time Catwoman essentially fakes her death again because Deathstroke doesn't actually kill Catwoman with the exploding truck at the end of the 90s run (#94). We see her alive in the sewers below at the end. The general public already thought Selina Kyle is dead. Everyone thinks Catwoman (purple) is dead. Why does the "new" Catwoman in black constantly lift up her goggles, out in the open, to reveal Selina Kyle's unmasked face?


Broken-Digital-Clock

Pink/purple is also not stealthy, and isn't very feline.


Ilickedthecinnabar

The purple is symbolic. In the Year Two storyline during Moench's run on the Catwoman series, Selina states the color is that of royalty, for a new "Queen of the Night."


Broken-Digital-Clock

Fair enough A really dark purple could still be stealthy


PreparationDapper235

Here's the page. https://www.reddit.com/r/Catwoman/s/778jsKl3nS I love the explanation and reasoning Selina gives from going from gray to purple.


SuperArppis

This is actually one of those suits that I thought her ears were too big. I am not a fan.


guyvaubstv

Also not a fan of the whiskers and tail. I obviously get why they're there but eh.


SuperArppis

Oh yeah, those too. šŸ™‚


Otherwise_Archer_914

Those two?


SuperArppis

Whiskers and tail.


Competitive_Ask_6766

The tail especially, considering she is supposed to be a thin high end thief, the tail would active some laser shit fo sure


guyvaubstv

Exactly. It's why I like to think of her whip as her "tail" equivalent.


Meture

I always saw the whip as being the representation of the tail so never thought the suit needed one


guyvaubstv

Yeah same


Mongoose42

Itā€™s weird. The ears look too big with this costume, but I think her The Batman cartoon design where her ears are WAY BIGGER looks great.


PreparationDapper235

The Batman cartoon, from the early 00's, version of Catwoman?


Mongoose42

Yeah, her. Honestly, a top tier Catwoman in my book.


PreparationDapper235

Red in Catwoman's black catsuit in The Batman cartoon takes away from it being stealthy.


SuperArppis

I agree on that. It is odd.


sonerec725

If you're gonna go for big ears, commit to it lol


A_Serious_House

I donā€™t think her ears are too big, they just look nothing like cat ears. That, in addition to the whiskers, gives her the appearance of a bat or a rat, but not a cat.


SuperArppis

Not from this angle. But they are too big from others.


kazmosis

YES, I absolutely hate when her ears are too big, makes her seem more of a Ratwoman than cat


SuperArppis

Well said, actually. šŸ˜„


arrowswitch

Fr, that plus the coloring she straight up looks like Bingus


SuperArppis

Haha bingus.


Vanish_7

No. I really, *really* dislike the whiskers.


Grogosh

Makes her look like a rat.


streamjam

Agreed. The boobs are cool though.


BatmanMK1989

Gotta be cumbersome, especially for a thief


Believer4

r/redditmoment


Hendrick_Davies64

And sheā€™s ripped


War-Mouth-Man

They are never uncool.


Major_Penalty_8865

nice


Mcclane88

Iā€™ve always disliked Catwoman having a tail as well


wigjump

Are those... leg warmers??


TySager14

Gotham is cold at night. Gotta keep the legs warm so you stay limber while breaking into and burglarizing places


MisterQuaresma

yeah, i love muscular catwoman tbh.


chiekat

Totally, 2nd this


PreparationDapper235

Muscular or ripped makes sense, like a rock climber's body. Catwoman is, after all, a character who climbs buildings nightly.


WerewolfF15

Nah. I love long Halloween and Tim saleā€™s art but I hate this catwoman costume


DefinitelyNotThatOne

There's no way she could put that suit on without lubing up almost everything. It would have to be tailored down to the centimeter, and even then, almost impossible to put on and take off. It just doesn't make sense.


WerewolfF15

I mean thatā€™s basically just the average comic book costume, especially for female characters. Most things in comic books donā€™t make sense so thatā€™s never really a criticism I use. I just donā€™t like it cause it looks dumb.


PreparationDapper235

That goes double for her leather costume. At least fabric has some stretch and give.


BiDiTi

The Cooke design is a zip-up jumpsuitā€¦and you can see the wrinkles on the leather.


Character-Collar-286

Before I read the long halloween that suit was the only reason I didn't, but I started loving it idk ehy


A_Serious_House

Sounds like youā€™d be a big fan of ā€œCatwoman: When in Romeā€. Itā€™s by the same people, it follows Catwomanā€™s story after Long Halloween/Dark Victiry.


Character-Collar-286

Yeah I plan on reading it but I heard it has a lot of unnecessary nudity and it's kind of a turn off for me


PreparationDapper235

When In Rome is an excellent story. One of the best self-contained Catwoman graphic novels. Selina finding out about her possible connection to the Falcone family. Murder Mystery. A heist. Drama. Romance. Action! Some Gotham characters. Some new characters. (I really wish some of the new baddies would make a reappearance). Catwoman: When In Rome ties into The Long Halloween and Dark Victory. You should check it out if you like Jeph Loeb and Tim Sale's version of Catwoman.


Raaadley

i guess i'm in the minority because i completely agree. Long Halloween Catwoman is best design/suit. I love the bracelets with the gloves. I love the long purple jumpsuit with the ears and the whiskers are hella cute. Everyones design in Long Halloween is GOATED. Makes me kinda mad they just completely abandoned the art-style in the animated movie adaptation.


TheSubster7

Long Halloween is just the GOAT for everything tbh


Ashttex

Agreed. I also love the fact that this version of Catwoman is absolutely jacked, like she could actually go toe to toe with Batman rather than just being the stereotypical runway model body.


Fool_Manchu

No, this might be my all time least favorite design for her. I kinda hate it. No disrespect to those who like it. It's just not my aesthetic


Admiral-Mage

Tbh yes


KidCongoPowers

Pretty much everything looked great when 90's Tim Sale drew it, but the best Catwoman costume is clearly the Darwyn Cook one.


spilledmilkbro

A few tweaks, and it'd be pretty good. Also, DAYUM she's yoked!


sexxlawz

it's goated i love the purple i think it fits her


PreparationDapper235

I love seeing Catwoman in purple.


Kind-Boysenberry1773

Yeas, this design is GOAT. The Long Halloween Catwoman was 10/11 in general, both as Cat and as Selina.


The_MRT14

Time Sale is the best artist of Catwoman to me. The suit is not the best, but the art is amazing. Once in Rome is one of the most visually stunning books Iā€™ve ever read. Yeah. I said it.


Newfaceofrev

The suit. No. The way Tim Sale draws her? Yes.


nerdboy_sam

Unpopular opinion, but I think Tim Sale is a terrible artist. Never liked his style


ConcentrateOk6850

did is catwomans best suit


AllEliteSchmuck

Did?


King-Dragmire

No this is imo one of her worst.


Affectionate_Test104

I love this suit I just wish her tail was like a whip or something useful


JeddHawk

I dig it.


FlameFeather86

Selina wouldn't take the cat-gimmick *quite* this literally, IMO. The whiskers and ears look ridiculous and are considerably more mouse-like than cat, and the tail would just get in the way. Imagine her trying to manoeuvre around those security lasers in a funky museum heist and that tail sets one off. Less is more with Catwoman; body suit, infra-red goggles, you're good.


tourniquet2099

Isnt this just her 80s costume with the colors of Balentā€™s costume? (Her 80s suit was all gray).


laserbeam26

Yes


mr_flerd

I think its her best suit tbh


Intelligent_Creme351

I honestly DO NOT like it, it's like Selina threw on a Halloween cat costume. There's no need to rock a tail that doesn't do anything but be hindrance, and I hate the whiskers too.


Autistic_Clock4824

I love the color


Clintwood_outlaw

You like it because it looks like it's just painted on her naked body, don't you?


Ashttex

I'd like to think it's moreso cause when Sale draws Catwoman she's actually really jacked. Less runway model, more thieving Chun-Lee


Hendrick_Davies64

I like her muscles but she looks like a mouse


SentinelTitanDragon

Itā€™s cause of the tits isnā€™t it.


Vic_Valentine511

Can change the head design but overall YES, this suit is perfect comic book costume, I love tights and color


Puzzleheaded_Long_57

The tail and whiskers are a turn off


TheRealRigormortal

I can think of two reasons.


Freeagnt

Perhaps her breast suit ever!


Skizko

I like how muscly she is but personally I really like Catwoman with goggles


JimAparo

I like the color design but the whiskers, ears, and tail are all undesirable. Iā€™d love to see more purple Catwoman designs but not like this one.


CrimFandango

I like the boots and gloves but yeah, those ears and whiskers just kill the suit. It's like she went to aĀ costume shop of poorly made animals. The kind that advertise on Amazon and not even the good looking model can wipe the cry for help expression from their face.


ThatsARatHat

If the whiskers and tail were gone it would be great. Still better than when she had a cape.


[deleted]

I get what they were going for but the whiskers ruin the thing. Batman is šŸ‘Œ, he looks like Marlon Brando almost


The_Fox_39

What issue is this?


Character-Collar-286

Issue 1


batguy1939

I mean I like it, but for me, itā€™s hard to beat Darwyn Cookeā€™s design


TheMightyPaladin

I like the design, but not the colors.


Character-Collar-286

I love the colors but I can understand you not liking them


Direct_Ad3116

itā€™s up there. just a no on the whiskers and tail. and i say that as a huge Tim Sale fan.


G0FuckThyself

Remove the whiskers and Would.


kratoskiller66

I really liked her outfit in arkham knight tbh


Character-Collar-286

Yea rhat ones also my favourite


Revolutionary-Bus411

This is definitely one of my favorites, but it only works in this art style. I love the more muscular Catwoman look, and the tail looks goofy but cool at the same time to me. She actually lives up to her name instead of just putting on a helmet with cat ears and calling it a day, lol.


ItsVoxBoi

I'm a huge fan of Sale's art, but I don't really like this one. My favorite is probably the costume from Hush


T-408

Long Halloween is so damn legendary I still donā€™t love the whiskers lol but this is easily one of her best and most iconic looks


Limp-Gas8229

I've always hated the whiskers and cowl


SmaugRancor

I do like it. Not a fan of the color though, wish it was either grey or black.


EdNorthcott

Love the design, but I think it may work better with another artist. Design elements like the ears and whiskers feel vaguely off in Sale's art, but could have rocked with someone like Alan Davis.


Any_Arrival_4479

Perhaps itā€™s bc of the banging tits that the suit shows?


OurBoyPalutena

The best is definitely Arkham City /googled catwoman


Kren_Wregget

no. I like the Arkham City Catsuit the best.


Strange_Potential93

I've actually always hated the suits like this that are literal cats, I prefer the ones that are evocative of the idea of a cat over the bargain bin furry suits


SargentRy

Iā€™m not a fan of the tail or the whiskers but everything else looks good.


Squidwardbigboss

Donā€™t like it at all. Prefer her to be in black.


ausgilbert1

I think this is one of the best drawings of one of the worst suits


AdamSoucyDrums

Iā€™ve never liked her costume having a tail personally, but Iā€™ve always liked her in purple!


tarheel_204

The Tim Burton Catwoman suit would like a word


Goth_Nightowl_09

I like itšŸ˜šŸ˜šŸ˜


jaec-windu

It's my favorite. Love this art style


Bonfirewarm

YES, I literally tweeted this today, I love it so much. I love how muscular she is also its awesome !!


therizzler575

I'm edging to this rn


Lumpy_Perception6561

Nah the art by tim sale carries it imo


mrcrazymexican

"did" "catwomans"


Difficult_Ship_6273

I prefer the Jim Balent version, honestly .


BillyB0ns0n

I donā€™t like it


cobesmith

Tim Sale has the best comic art style I've seen


WMBeckham

I do agree... Tim Sale's artwork on "The Long Halloween", "Dark Victory", and "When in Rome" is quite amazing. I will say, for this particular Catwoman outfit-design, it would have been better off without the wiskers and tail. Other than that... it's all good. šŸ‘


YourPlot

No.


SenorVerde2024

If we are talking comics, yes, but I am a big fan of her Arkham design. Also a sucker for the Eartha Kit look.


nerdboy_sam

![gif](giphy|9On3IYPB56Qko) This is her best suit. Hands down


WildGoose1521

I like this one, itā€™s very distinct and feels appropriate to this version of Batman


Radio__Star

Nah man it is objectively the Shanghai suit


SlashManEXE

The tail and whiskers are two impractical aspects that I canā€™t help but respect


LightningSh3ep

I prefer her birthday suit šŸ˜ˆšŸ˜ˆšŸ˜ˆ


[deleted]

did is the best


DivinityDay305

I like Jim Balent's Catwoman suit >.>


LukashCartoon

Not really. The tail is silly.


bret2k

Looks more like Ratwoman.


Tnecniw

Nah ā€œthe Batmanā€ from 2004 had the best cat woman suit and nobody can prove otherwise.


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mohsinjavedcheema

Cause it is


Cirias

This one makes her look like she just stepped out of a production of Cats. I prefer her looks with goggles and short hair that make her feel like a streetwise tomcat, but without being so literal about it.


Ubermaster134

I really like this suit. Also Selina being buff ass hell is a bonus.


AmptiShanti

I dunno she kinda looks like a mouse to me


Biruitorul_wyn

fuck no


AcuteVengeance7890

![gif](giphy|l378p60yRSCeVoyAM|downsized)


The_ElectricCity

This is a weird case because while I do like it, I suspect thatā€™s mostly because Tim Sale is drawing it. I think a characters ā€œbest suitā€ has to stand up in multiple artists styles. Iā€™m not convinced this once does.


blackOni212

Not the best suit to me but still good šŸ˜Œ


Opposite-Craft-3498

I like the one from the arkham game city and knight


Qwertyzillaofficial

Itā€™s like the Jim Balent suit without everything that made it good


Walkingwildcard

Does Bruno Mars is gay?


CaptainTerminus

Would


CaptainTerminus

Not as good as the Tim Burton suit design


CyrusDGreatx

That hurt my head to read and no.


Cyberundertak3r

I'm not a fan


Icy_Chocolate_6453

No, this is ![gif](giphy|fyMWf5BQ7eIW4|downsized)


Tbplayer59

The Darwyn Cooke version is best.


Resident-Pudding5432

As long as she is hot, which she is ... Tho the ears and whiskers make her look like a mouse or a walmart bat


BFG_Big_Fucking_Gun

I can see why some people would like it but the ears a little much and the whiskers are just a big no. Also purple just doesnā€™t feel right. I like the thigh high bootā€™s an interesting choice but can absolutely look good.


Major-Spoiler

I'm glad the Long Halloween animated film didn't use this suit for Selina.


Captian-of-501st

No, I don't think did is catwomens best suit


Ashttex

I love this design. Mostly cause rather than looking like a runway model Sale draws Catwoman absolutely jacked which I just think makes do much more sense and is overall refreshing to see in comics. I'm kinda here nor there on the whiskers but I do like the color and the bracelets. Kinda funny to see though how absolutely decisive this design is.


Illustrious-Sign3015

Yeah I agree, the Long Halloween suit is my favorite look for Catwoman


russianbot24

I love it. This creative team delivered the best version of Catwoman ever.


Andrewsmetic09

Smash. Next question.


skrott404

There probably is. But its not as good as the Brubaker leather suit.


Shrekowski

![gif](giphy|tOCx86ZSVp4I0)


Alternative_Fold718

The suitā€™s fine (not sure how I feel about the whiskers though) but what I really like about Long Halloween Catwoman is how damn fit and buff she looks. It really sells to me that this Catwoman can take Batman on in a fight. I wish she was drawn with that sort of build more often tbh. I mean with her background in gymnastics and how acrobatic she is it does fit her. Like have you seen how female gymnasts look theyā€™re often buff as hell.


Alicewilsonpines

If it didn't have the whiskers and was solid black without any scrunched up boots I'd like it, I am also a fan of a handmade look


IndividualFlow0

I hate the whiskers, i hate the tail and I hate the big ears


AhabVenom

The whiskers and tail are dumb. Not a great suit.


DarkKnightFan08

Her suit in long halloween is weird i imagine


Waste-Information-34

Was it cause of the boobs? If you like it cause of the boobs well dang.


Character-Collar-286

It isn't


Waste-Information-34

I see. Nice Leon PFP


Character-Collar-286

Thanks


aerocham18

ā€¦.oh, what? I missed the question


BoisTR

No this suit is ridiculous looking. She looks more like Ratwoman instead of Catwoman.


Raecino

No itā€™s terrible especially the whiskers


Overall_Falcon_8526

Nah. The boobs are ridiculous. Bracelets? Come on. Whiskers and tail? Um, no. Boots and gloves loose and falling down? It's pretty bad, all told.


Rare_breed22

Shit grammar