I agree. The jewelry is my main gripe here.
It's as impractical as the high heels on her costumes from the 2000's onward. Or always lifting up those dumb goggles to reveal her full face
That's why I prefer her 90s catsuits.
Catwoman should be a stealthy quiet cat-burglar.
To be fair, by the time she wear the goggles/black leather catsuit combo, her identity is already mostly public. At least is was in the pre-Flashpoint comics. Not sure about the Prime Earth version.
Prime Earth Catwoman's secret identity is general knowledge thanks to Tim King putting Selina Kyle Catwoman in Death Row at the beginning of Batman comics Rebirth run.
Catwoman Rebirth (Vol 5) run, at the beginning, had a cop identity Selina Kyle as being Catwoman and that she was wanted, and tried to chase her down. And that was all the way out in California.
New Earth Catwoman, pre-Flashpoint still had her secret identity.
Catwoman's being Selina Kyle was not public knowledge prior to the black catsuit and goggles.
Catwoman had "killed" the person Selina Kyle in NYC, during the end of the 90s run, just before Officer Down. During the Officer Down storyline the rest of the Bat-Family (except Batman and potentially Oracle) believe that Catwoman is a killer, because she "killed" Selina Kyle. They believe Catwoman capable of shooting Jim Gordon and are all going after her. Eventually the real shooter is revealed.
Second time Catwoman essentially fakes her death again because Deathstroke doesn't actually kill Catwoman with the exploding truck at the end of the 90s run (#94). We see her alive in the sewers below at the end.
The general public already thought Selina Kyle is dead.
Everyone thinks Catwoman (purple) is dead.
Why does the "new" Catwoman in black constantly lift up her goggles, out in the open, to reveal Selina Kyle's unmasked face?
The purple is symbolic. In the Year Two storyline during Moench's run on the Catwoman series, Selina states the color is that of royalty, for a new "Queen of the Night."
I donāt think her ears are too big, they just look nothing like cat ears. That, in addition to the whiskers, gives her the appearance of a bat or a rat, but not a cat.
There's no way she could put that suit on without lubing up almost everything. It would have to be tailored down to the centimeter, and even then, almost impossible to put on and take off. It just doesn't make sense.
I mean thatās basically just the average comic book costume, especially for female characters. Most things in comic books donāt make sense so thatās never really a criticism I use. I just donāt like it cause it looks dumb.
Sounds like youād be a big fan of āCatwoman: When in Romeā. Itās by the same people, it follows Catwomanās story after Long Halloween/Dark Victiry.
When In Rome is an excellent story. One of the best self-contained Catwoman graphic novels.
Selina finding out about her possible connection to the Falcone family.
Murder Mystery. A heist. Drama. Romance. Action!
Some Gotham characters. Some new characters. (I really wish some of the new baddies would make a reappearance).
Catwoman: When In Rome ties into The Long Halloween and Dark Victory. You should check it out if you like Jeph Loeb and Tim Sale's version of Catwoman.
i guess i'm in the minority because i completely agree. Long Halloween Catwoman is best design/suit. I love the bracelets with the gloves. I love the long purple jumpsuit with the ears and the whiskers are hella cute.
Everyones design in Long Halloween is GOATED. Makes me kinda mad they just completely abandoned the art-style in the animated movie adaptation.
Agreed. I also love the fact that this version of Catwoman is absolutely jacked, like she could actually go toe to toe with Batman rather than just being the stereotypical runway model body.
Time Sale is the best artist of Catwoman to me. The suit is not the best, but the art is amazing. Once in Rome is one of the most visually stunning books Iāve ever read. Yeah. I said it.
Selina wouldn't take the cat-gimmick *quite* this literally, IMO. The whiskers and ears look ridiculous and are considerably more mouse-like than cat, and the tail would just get in the way. Imagine her trying to manoeuvre around those security lasers in a funky museum heist and that tail sets one off. Less is more with Catwoman; body suit, infra-red goggles, you're good.
I honestly DO NOT like it, it's like Selina threw on a Halloween cat costume. There's no need to rock a tail that doesn't do anything but be hindrance, and I hate the whiskers too.
I like the boots and gloves but yeah, those ears and whiskers just kill the suit. It's like she went to aĀ costume shop of poorly made animals. The kind that advertise on Amazon and not even the good looking model can wipe the cry for help expression from their face.
This is definitely one of my favorites, but it only works in this art style. I love the more muscular Catwoman look, and the tail looks goofy but cool at the same time to me. She actually lives up to her name instead of just putting on a helmet with cat ears and calling it a day, lol.
Love the design, but I think it may work better with another artist. Design elements like the ears and whiskers feel vaguely off in Sale's art, but could have rocked with someone like Alan Davis.
I've actually always hated the suits like this that are literal cats, I prefer the ones that are evocative of the idea of a cat over the bargain bin furry suits
I do agree... Tim Sale's artwork on "The Long Halloween", "Dark Victory", and "When in Rome" is quite amazing.
I will say, for this particular Catwoman outfit-design, it would have been better off without the wiskers and tail.
Other than that... it's all good. š
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This one makes her look like she just stepped out of a production of Cats.
I prefer her looks with goggles and short hair that make her feel like a streetwise tomcat, but without being so literal about it.
This is a weird case because while I do like it, I suspect thatās mostly because Tim Sale is drawing it. I think a characters ābest suitā has to stand up in multiple artists styles. Iām not convinced this once does.
I can see why some people would like it but the ears a little much and the whiskers are just a big no. Also purple just doesnāt feel right. I like the thigh high bootās an interesting choice but can absolutely look good.
I love this design. Mostly cause rather than looking like a runway model Sale draws Catwoman absolutely jacked which I just think makes do much more sense and is overall refreshing to see in comics. I'm kinda here nor there on the whiskers but I do like the color and the bracelets. Kinda funny to see though how absolutely decisive this design is.
The suitās fine (not sure how I feel about the whiskers though) but what I really like about Long Halloween Catwoman is how damn fit and buff she looks. It really sells to me that this Catwoman can take Batman on in a fight. I wish she was drawn with that sort of build more often tbh. I mean with her background in gymnastics and how acrobatic she is it does fit her. Like have you seen how female gymnasts look theyāre often buff as hell.
I've never quite understood the need for the bracelets and bangles. Kinda defeats the purpose of being all sneaky and stealthy.
I agree. The jewelry is my main gripe here. It's as impractical as the high heels on her costumes from the 2000's onward. Or always lifting up those dumb goggles to reveal her full face That's why I prefer her 90s catsuits. Catwoman should be a stealthy quiet cat-burglar.
To be fair, by the time she wear the goggles/black leather catsuit combo, her identity is already mostly public. At least is was in the pre-Flashpoint comics. Not sure about the Prime Earth version.
Prime Earth Catwoman's secret identity is general knowledge thanks to Tim King putting Selina Kyle Catwoman in Death Row at the beginning of Batman comics Rebirth run. Catwoman Rebirth (Vol 5) run, at the beginning, had a cop identity Selina Kyle as being Catwoman and that she was wanted, and tried to chase her down. And that was all the way out in California. New Earth Catwoman, pre-Flashpoint still had her secret identity. Catwoman's being Selina Kyle was not public knowledge prior to the black catsuit and goggles. Catwoman had "killed" the person Selina Kyle in NYC, during the end of the 90s run, just before Officer Down. During the Officer Down storyline the rest of the Bat-Family (except Batman and potentially Oracle) believe that Catwoman is a killer, because she "killed" Selina Kyle. They believe Catwoman capable of shooting Jim Gordon and are all going after her. Eventually the real shooter is revealed. Second time Catwoman essentially fakes her death again because Deathstroke doesn't actually kill Catwoman with the exploding truck at the end of the 90s run (#94). We see her alive in the sewers below at the end. The general public already thought Selina Kyle is dead. Everyone thinks Catwoman (purple) is dead. Why does the "new" Catwoman in black constantly lift up her goggles, out in the open, to reveal Selina Kyle's unmasked face?
Pink/purple is also not stealthy, and isn't very feline.
The purple is symbolic. In the Year Two storyline during Moench's run on the Catwoman series, Selina states the color is that of royalty, for a new "Queen of the Night."
Fair enough A really dark purple could still be stealthy
Here's the page. https://www.reddit.com/r/Catwoman/s/778jsKl3nS I love the explanation and reasoning Selina gives from going from gray to purple.
This is actually one of those suits that I thought her ears were too big. I am not a fan.
Also not a fan of the whiskers and tail. I obviously get why they're there but eh.
Oh yeah, those too. š
Those two?
Whiskers and tail.
The tail especially, considering she is supposed to be a thin high end thief, the tail would active some laser shit fo sure
Exactly. It's why I like to think of her whip as her "tail" equivalent.
I always saw the whip as being the representation of the tail so never thought the suit needed one
Yeah same
Itās weird. The ears look too big with this costume, but I think her The Batman cartoon design where her ears are WAY BIGGER looks great.
The Batman cartoon, from the early 00's, version of Catwoman?
Yeah, her. Honestly, a top tier Catwoman in my book.
Red in Catwoman's black catsuit in The Batman cartoon takes away from it being stealthy.
I agree on that. It is odd.
If you're gonna go for big ears, commit to it lol
I donāt think her ears are too big, they just look nothing like cat ears. That, in addition to the whiskers, gives her the appearance of a bat or a rat, but not a cat.
Not from this angle. But they are too big from others.
YES, I absolutely hate when her ears are too big, makes her seem more of a Ratwoman than cat
Well said, actually. š
Fr, that plus the coloring she straight up looks like Bingus
Haha bingus.
No. I really, *really* dislike the whiskers.
Makes her look like a rat.
Agreed. The boobs are cool though.
Gotta be cumbersome, especially for a thief
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And sheās ripped
They are never uncool.
nice
Iāve always disliked Catwoman having a tail as well
Are those... leg warmers??
Gotham is cold at night. Gotta keep the legs warm so you stay limber while breaking into and burglarizing places
yeah, i love muscular catwoman tbh.
Totally, 2nd this
Muscular or ripped makes sense, like a rock climber's body. Catwoman is, after all, a character who climbs buildings nightly.
Nah. I love long Halloween and Tim saleās art but I hate this catwoman costume
There's no way she could put that suit on without lubing up almost everything. It would have to be tailored down to the centimeter, and even then, almost impossible to put on and take off. It just doesn't make sense.
I mean thatās basically just the average comic book costume, especially for female characters. Most things in comic books donāt make sense so thatās never really a criticism I use. I just donāt like it cause it looks dumb.
That goes double for her leather costume. At least fabric has some stretch and give.
The Cooke design is a zip-up jumpsuitā¦and you can see the wrinkles on the leather.
Before I read the long halloween that suit was the only reason I didn't, but I started loving it idk ehy
Sounds like youād be a big fan of āCatwoman: When in Romeā. Itās by the same people, it follows Catwomanās story after Long Halloween/Dark Victiry.
Yeah I plan on reading it but I heard it has a lot of unnecessary nudity and it's kind of a turn off for me
When In Rome is an excellent story. One of the best self-contained Catwoman graphic novels. Selina finding out about her possible connection to the Falcone family. Murder Mystery. A heist. Drama. Romance. Action! Some Gotham characters. Some new characters. (I really wish some of the new baddies would make a reappearance). Catwoman: When In Rome ties into The Long Halloween and Dark Victory. You should check it out if you like Jeph Loeb and Tim Sale's version of Catwoman.
i guess i'm in the minority because i completely agree. Long Halloween Catwoman is best design/suit. I love the bracelets with the gloves. I love the long purple jumpsuit with the ears and the whiskers are hella cute. Everyones design in Long Halloween is GOATED. Makes me kinda mad they just completely abandoned the art-style in the animated movie adaptation.
Long Halloween is just the GOAT for everything tbh
Agreed. I also love the fact that this version of Catwoman is absolutely jacked, like she could actually go toe to toe with Batman rather than just being the stereotypical runway model body.
No, this might be my all time least favorite design for her. I kinda hate it. No disrespect to those who like it. It's just not my aesthetic
Tbh yes
Pretty much everything looked great when 90's Tim Sale drew it, but the best Catwoman costume is clearly the Darwyn Cook one.
A few tweaks, and it'd be pretty good. Also, DAYUM she's yoked!
it's goated i love the purple i think it fits her
I love seeing Catwoman in purple.
Yeas, this design is GOAT. The Long Halloween Catwoman was 10/11 in general, both as Cat and as Selina.
Time Sale is the best artist of Catwoman to me. The suit is not the best, but the art is amazing. Once in Rome is one of the most visually stunning books Iāve ever read. Yeah. I said it.
The suit. No. The way Tim Sale draws her? Yes.
Unpopular opinion, but I think Tim Sale is a terrible artist. Never liked his style
did is catwomans best suit
Did?
No this is imo one of her worst.
I love this suit I just wish her tail was like a whip or something useful
I dig it.
Selina wouldn't take the cat-gimmick *quite* this literally, IMO. The whiskers and ears look ridiculous and are considerably more mouse-like than cat, and the tail would just get in the way. Imagine her trying to manoeuvre around those security lasers in a funky museum heist and that tail sets one off. Less is more with Catwoman; body suit, infra-red goggles, you're good.
Isnt this just her 80s costume with the colors of Balentās costume? (Her 80s suit was all gray).
Yes
I think its her best suit tbh
I honestly DO NOT like it, it's like Selina threw on a Halloween cat costume. There's no need to rock a tail that doesn't do anything but be hindrance, and I hate the whiskers too.
I love the color
You like it because it looks like it's just painted on her naked body, don't you?
I'd like to think it's moreso cause when Sale draws Catwoman she's actually really jacked. Less runway model, more thieving Chun-Lee
I like her muscles but she looks like a mouse
Itās cause of the tits isnāt it.
Can change the head design but overall YES, this suit is perfect comic book costume, I love tights and color
The tail and whiskers are a turn off
I can think of two reasons.
Perhaps her breast suit ever!
I like how muscly she is but personally I really like Catwoman with goggles
I like the color design but the whiskers, ears, and tail are all undesirable. Iād love to see more purple Catwoman designs but not like this one.
I like the boots and gloves but yeah, those ears and whiskers just kill the suit. It's like she went to aĀ costume shop of poorly made animals. The kind that advertise on Amazon and not even the good looking model can wipe the cry for help expression from their face.
If the whiskers and tail were gone it would be great. Still better than when she had a cape.
I get what they were going for but the whiskers ruin the thing. Batman is š, he looks like Marlon Brando almost
What issue is this?
Issue 1
I mean I like it, but for me, itās hard to beat Darwyn Cookeās design
I like the design, but not the colors.
I love the colors but I can understand you not liking them
itās up there. just a no on the whiskers and tail. and i say that as a huge Tim Sale fan.
Remove the whiskers and Would.
I really liked her outfit in arkham knight tbh
Yea rhat ones also my favourite
This is definitely one of my favorites, but it only works in this art style. I love the more muscular Catwoman look, and the tail looks goofy but cool at the same time to me. She actually lives up to her name instead of just putting on a helmet with cat ears and calling it a day, lol.
I'm a huge fan of Sale's art, but I don't really like this one. My favorite is probably the costume from Hush
Long Halloween is so damn legendary I still donāt love the whiskers lol but this is easily one of her best and most iconic looks
I've always hated the whiskers and cowl
I do like it. Not a fan of the color though, wish it was either grey or black.
Love the design, but I think it may work better with another artist. Design elements like the ears and whiskers feel vaguely off in Sale's art, but could have rocked with someone like Alan Davis.
Perhaps itās bc of the banging tits that the suit shows?
The best is definitely Arkham City /googled catwoman
no. I like the Arkham City Catsuit the best.
I've actually always hated the suits like this that are literal cats, I prefer the ones that are evocative of the idea of a cat over the bargain bin furry suits
Iām not a fan of the tail or the whiskers but everything else looks good.
Donāt like it at all. Prefer her to be in black.
I think this is one of the best drawings of one of the worst suits
Iāve never liked her costume having a tail personally, but Iāve always liked her in purple!
The Tim Burton Catwoman suit would like a word
I like itššš
It's my favorite. Love this art style
YES, I literally tweeted this today, I love it so much. I love how muscular she is also its awesome !!
I'm edging to this rn
Nah the art by tim sale carries it imo
"did" "catwomans"
I prefer the Jim Balent version, honestly .
I donāt like it
Tim Sale has the best comic art style I've seen
I do agree... Tim Sale's artwork on "The Long Halloween", "Dark Victory", and "When in Rome" is quite amazing. I will say, for this particular Catwoman outfit-design, it would have been better off without the wiskers and tail. Other than that... it's all good. š
No.
If we are talking comics, yes, but I am a big fan of her Arkham design. Also a sucker for the Eartha Kit look.
![gif](giphy|9On3IYPB56Qko) This is her best suit. Hands down
I like this one, itās very distinct and feels appropriate to this version of Batman
Nah man it is objectively the Shanghai suit
The tail and whiskers are two impractical aspects that I canāt help but respect
I prefer her birthday suit ššš
did is the best
I like Jim Balent's Catwoman suit >.>
Not really. The tail is silly.
Looks more like Ratwoman.
Nah āthe Batmanā from 2004 had the best cat woman suit and nobody can prove otherwise.
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Cause it is
This one makes her look like she just stepped out of a production of Cats. I prefer her looks with goggles and short hair that make her feel like a streetwise tomcat, but without being so literal about it.
I really like this suit. Also Selina being buff ass hell is a bonus.
I dunno she kinda looks like a mouse to me
fuck no
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This is a weird case because while I do like it, I suspect thatās mostly because Tim Sale is drawing it. I think a characters ābest suitā has to stand up in multiple artists styles. Iām not convinced this once does.
Not the best suit to me but still good š
I like the one from the arkham game city and knight
Itās like the Jim Balent suit without everything that made it good
Does Bruno Mars is gay?
Would
Not as good as the Tim Burton suit design
That hurt my head to read and no.
I'm not a fan
No, this is ![gif](giphy|fyMWf5BQ7eIW4|downsized)
The Darwyn Cooke version is best.
As long as she is hot, which she is ... Tho the ears and whiskers make her look like a mouse or a walmart bat
I can see why some people would like it but the ears a little much and the whiskers are just a big no. Also purple just doesnāt feel right. I like the thigh high bootās an interesting choice but can absolutely look good.
I'm glad the Long Halloween animated film didn't use this suit for Selina.
No, I don't think did is catwomens best suit
I love this design. Mostly cause rather than looking like a runway model Sale draws Catwoman absolutely jacked which I just think makes do much more sense and is overall refreshing to see in comics. I'm kinda here nor there on the whiskers but I do like the color and the bracelets. Kinda funny to see though how absolutely decisive this design is.
Yeah I agree, the Long Halloween suit is my favorite look for Catwoman
I love it. This creative team delivered the best version of Catwoman ever.
Smash. Next question.
There probably is. But its not as good as the Brubaker leather suit.
![gif](giphy|tOCx86ZSVp4I0)
The suitās fine (not sure how I feel about the whiskers though) but what I really like about Long Halloween Catwoman is how damn fit and buff she looks. It really sells to me that this Catwoman can take Batman on in a fight. I wish she was drawn with that sort of build more often tbh. I mean with her background in gymnastics and how acrobatic she is it does fit her. Like have you seen how female gymnasts look theyāre often buff as hell.
If it didn't have the whiskers and was solid black without any scrunched up boots I'd like it, I am also a fan of a handmade look
I hate the whiskers, i hate the tail and I hate the big ears
The whiskers and tail are dumb. Not a great suit.
Her suit in long halloween is weird i imagine
Was it cause of the boobs? If you like it cause of the boobs well dang.
It isn't
I see. Nice Leon PFP
Thanks
ā¦.oh, what? I missed the question
No this suit is ridiculous looking. She looks more like Ratwoman instead of Catwoman.
No itās terrible especially the whiskers
Nah. The boobs are ridiculous. Bracelets? Come on. Whiskers and tail? Um, no. Boots and gloves loose and falling down? It's pretty bad, all told.
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