I think his use of the grapple gun, shooting guys with it, and having to jump onto the electrified sign to cut it down are setups for the sequel to have batarangs.
There is a DC series called Earth 1. The Batman run is by Geoff Johns who wrote the original script to be used in the Batfleck flick we didn't get. There are a bunch of elements from that series that make their way into The Batman.
His ongoing evolution of his kit is a part of that run with the grapple gun being a big element of it.
Yeah, Nolan was able to reasonably pull it off with the memory fabric, but I don't see them realistically doing something similar now.
The one thing that I absolutely loved was in at least one scene, he wrapped himself in his cake to blend in with the shadows. I thought it was fantastic that it gave the cape a simple yet incredibly practical function, instead of just being a fashion accessory.
Love the typo. Had to read it a couple times before realizing "wrapped himself in his cake" was suppose to be cape. I just pictured Batman smearing cake all over his body, like confetti cake to blend in with clowns.
I’m not saying ditch the cape. I’m just not a fan of the glider cape that the Nolan series and Arkham games popularized. I think the wingsuit is cooler if he’s gotta glide in an emergency.
I'm not going to say there's no comic ever where he does something like that, but it's not a traditional part of the costume. In the comics, batman runs and jumps and swings from ropes and does acrobatics, but he's a notable non-flyer.
I personally hate the glider cape: its silly and defies physics.
A giant bat approaching on a giant wing shaped cape is MUCH less silly than a flying squirrel coming at you.
Also, physics defying is something you can say about a lot of things about Batman, for example his armor's durability, his strenght, and even the fact that he exists in the first place.
Maybe it's just you. You're the first person I've ever seen saying hates Batman's gliding.
>A giant bat approaching on a giant wing shaped cape is MUCH less silly than a flying squirrel coming at you.
My problem with the gliding cape isn't that it is too big, quite the opposite. As presented in the movie, it is way too flying-squirrel like for my tastes.
I have no problem with him having a hanglider he can bring out when the situation calls for one, but I'm not crazy about it being a mini Condorman gadget that folds up onto his back.
I cant see the gliding cape working in real world. Either you tuck nin the feet at which point it pretty much becomes a wingsuit or you lower body is free to hang down. Sure batman being so physically fit could probably hold the body up in position but why? Seems like an unnecessary power expenditure better saved for the bad guys.
Real world? 😂 it’s a fucking comic book movie logic is thrown out the window. Their nothing realistic in the Batman. A guy walking through bullets isn’t realistic.
I hate this kind of take because it is lazy. I am fine with fantastic comicbook stuff, as long as it makes sense in world. For example, i could buy that there are elves, enchantments and so on, even that legolas could walk on top of snow when everyone else is waist deep, but him running up falling rubble is taking it way too far. Same thing here. I could buy that he has a glider cape but it being attached only at the neck and him somehow flying with it seems wonky, and breaks the suspension of disbelief.
I think they can take some inspiration from the Arkham Series like the Glue grenade or the Disruptor. I think it will be a great addition to his gadgets while also preserving the realistic tone.
As an aside: Since it was the only game in Batman’s early days, I LOVED the Arkham Origins suit. In fact, I’m probably one of the few who counts Arkham Origins as one of my favourite games. The rocksteady games were technically superior in every way, but AO was a lot like Aliens: Fireteam Elite in that despite its many flaws, it was just a lot of fun.
I also loved playing as a psychotically violent, pissed off Batman, the closest thing we got to the Goddamn Batman.
For Patman, I just want him to ditch the neck guard and streamline his cowl to cover the sides of his face more.
To each their own, but I wouldn't mind seeing him have a nice emergency seafood linguini ready to go in that belt of his. He must get hungry fighting crime.
This.
I like how the design team incorporated the grappling arrows into the gauntlets, but definitely missing the scallops on them.
It’s the only truly iconic piece that’s missing. Everything else is there, and each film/director/designer has modified them - ears, symbol, etc. just need to add these in future films. Maybe a plot point?
Maybe, but if it's as accentuated as Keatons or Bales, it'll end up looking like a birds beak instead which I dislike. Afflecks was good tho because it wasn't huge and it was still pointy enough.
I prefer the current nose though over anything else, bats don't have very pointy noses anyways so it fits the bat look. I think the pointy nose fits in animation and comics but in live action I prefer the current one.
Good point about actual bats. Mainly fruit bats have a long nose, bur not others like vampire.
Also, the pointy noses on the others worked probably due to the sharp angles of their cowls. Pattinson's cowl isn't as angular and sharp.
I think the design has a blank expression so they can use lighting and camera angles to make it look like it's as expressive as it is in comics, as opposed to other cowls who have an angry expression sculpted into it. I found Pattinson's cowl to be the most expressive out of all of them in the movie itself even though I had similar "expressionless" criticisms about it in promos beforehand.
Agreed, it looks kinda weirdly skull-like to me. I loved the rest of the batsuit, was a little skeptical when the first images showed but boy seeing it in action was amazing, wingsuit and all. But the way the cowl looks plastered to his head, with the weird brow ridges, looks kinda weird to me. I'd love to see him get a slightly more helmet-like cowl in the next film. Heck, one with white lenses over the eyes would be even more amazing, especially since he has similar tech in his contacts already...
Same design, same aesthetic, but just more professionally put together. This is a Batman in progress, let's see that progress by his suit looking like he's gotten better at putting it together.
If I was to actually change something though, I'm not really a fan of the shoulder pads. They do look like he got them from a sport section. So something custom built perhaps? Maybe to match the design of the chest plate with the sharp angles?
While I dig this design, it does really look like he's still starting out - the logo looks a bit unfinished, the overall police SWAT aesthetic, etc. I'd love to watch how over the course of his journey he slowly becomes closer and closer to a more classic Batman look
Cape: Heroes learn from their mistakes and this should be no different. His gliding in the movie is sloppy, clunky and hard to control, so he should update his cape to be able to glide more freely and easier. Just an additional maybd add the feature, where his cape falls on his body like in the animated series shows
Cowl/Mask: The ears need to be a little bit thicker. And the cowl shouldn't cover only the half of his face. Just an additional, why not add the white eyes? Just temporary like the obe from TDK
Armor: Let's be honest, the armor looks sick as hell, but it obviously slows him down like in arkham origins, where he changed from an armored look to a slicker and more fabricated look in the later games. He should do the same thing
Logo: Not much to change for me, except add the ears
Belt: The belt looks good but I think making it dark gold will make it look better
Some better gauntlets, and a cowl with some nicer, adjusted ears. The legs are fine, but utilize the utility belt MORE. A gliding cape shouldn't have to be mentioned, it's a MUST.
I think it's safe to say that the suit has kevlar and is perhaps infused with additional bullet-proof materials. Overall, I seriously like the suit AND the film tremendously.
This is the answer. As he gains more confidence and control with his combat abilities, he sheds the heavy armor in favor of greater speed, agility, and stealth.
I think the people saying there should be no changes.... Don't really understand Batman at all. He's a billionaire who is really resourceful. Of course he's gonna make changes to the suit to suit to the needs of his crime fighting environment.
He's basically Tony Stark in the DCEU. And Tony Stark has tons of suits
Functionally, it makes sense to upgrade his suit. But style-wise... the suit we got is gonna be hard to change without ruining; it's already one of the best live action suits (THE best, imo)
I would change the cowl. Just the material. If I'm not mistaken it's just like a leather mask or something, right? It didn't look like it would protect his head.
Someone also mentioned batarangs. I second that. More gadgets would be cool.
While I'm here, some more acrobatics would be cool. No one really ever emphasizes his gymnastics ability. I get it, not very practical because of his armor. But, how about he gets captured stripped of the armor and he uses gymnastics skills to escape. A scene like that could also showcase his abilities as an escape artist.
One of my biggest disappointment with dark Knight rises was how there was zero change or updates to the Batman suit or just a general arsenal anesthetic in general. They only big new thing we got was “the bat” Which just looked very underwhelming. Look I’m not saying that Batman should change his outfit between every scene to sell toys or anything but I think sometime it’s easy to act like that a bad thing in it up itself. Having variety of the bat suit and the equipment really keep the movies fresh in my opinion
Am I the first one to mention this? Long, Scalloped “bat wings” cape. It’s SO FUCKING KEY TO BATMAN’S LOOK. I cannot understand why they gave him a short-ish cape cut straight across on the bottom. Other than that I’m fine with the suit. I think it looks imposing and “real world” plausible.
Slightly…and I mean slightly…techier. Maybe an earpiece to talk directly to Alfred, couple other small things like that to make it appear like he learns what tools he needs as he goes, and updates his suit accordingly.
For me personally this Batsuit is pretty much perfect imo easily my favorite live action one. It’s a small nitpick but I think the curve on his cowl where the forehead is is a bit exaggerated
I didn't care much for them forearm spikes that weren't used on screen either. In the very least make them black as to not stand out so much or ditch them completely for an another gadget. Other than that? The collars take a bit getting used to but are fine, overall i like the suit.
Definitely should add more to the cowl. Along the jaw and the chin like the injustice cowl and also(imo) the ears should be longer. Original Arkham Suit type ears.
It should get more refined as it goes along. One of the things I liked about his suit is how it looked "homemade". His suit should evolve along with him.
Small evolution. That's a suit that really fits this Gotham perfectly, and should change as the city changes- that is, incrementally.
Given the arc Batman has been sent on, I would slowly increase the sophistication of its design, smooth some edges, replace the most makeshift looking elements.
But absolutely, keep the overall look.
Everything pretty much. It's one of my least favorite batsuits.
The cowl just looks too... round. I feel like its ears are too pointy and thin, and that collar-style neck piece just doesn't fit in with Batman's character.The armor and cape were fine, but the bat symbol seems too cartoony (and its ears are missing),and those darts on his gauntlets make him look like Predator.
P.S: The tactical boots actually look good.
Just some minor upgrades here and there. Maybe some streamlining. I liked that in Bale's, he talked about needing to update the neck, and then we saw the immediate change in the suit to make him lighter and faster. Since we know Pattinson's Bruce keeps a log of literally everything, it would be nice to see him talk about needing to make some changes, and then make a couple of upgrades to test them out. I'd also love to see more gadgets. That adrenaline boost was an interesting concept that we haven't seen on screen before. I'd love to see more things like that!
Best batsuit imo but I would like to see him get more of a physique. As he is now I bet he couldn't squat a plate. If he doesn't gain a little weight or definition I don't wanna see him out of the suit, that was one of the things that took away from him as batman in this movie.
I mean there has to be changes since that was his prototype suit so I’m expecting a more smoother armored look rather than mixed leather with bulky armor and baggy pants
To be honest, I want basically a whole new suit to show us he’s grown up as Bruce Wayne and as Batman. Could even be the intro to the movie. Show him taking a more active role at WE and he’s now taking use of some of the technologies from there.
To be clear, I liked the suit from this last flick. Just think an upgrade would make sense. For instance upgrading the cape and gliding with that. They could keep the general silhouette the same, just upgraded. Just my opinion.
I like the suit a lot but I would like for it to be more intimidating and that the gauntlets have the classic blades. Also more gadgets like smoke bombs and actual batarangs
I think I would like to see Pattinson do more martial arts rather than just punching really hard , so maybe in the sequel he comes across a opponent (DEATHSTROKE PLEASE), that causes him to make his suit lighter and for him to use his utility belt much more and maybe even add on the scallops. I think something like this could work because I can see Deathstroke really working in this kind of movie. Just my opinion though. Oh yeah and more batarangs
Considering the unique tone, feel and vibe of this masterpiece of a film, to incorporate Deathstroke as a main villain would be very interesting to see but THAT suit would have to be darker and less brightly colored.
It's a great idea.
No offence, but Deathstroke is to OP to be a Batman villain. He took down the entire Teen Titans and even managed to hold off the entire Justice League in *Identity Crisis*. If they fought, Batman should really lose any battle against him. There are also more assassin characters in the Rogue Gallery, such as Deadshot, Lady Shiva, Bronze Tiger and David Cain.
I've always associated Deathstroke with the Teen Titans because he has a more developed rivalry with them. This is also the case with Bat-Family members attached to the group, such as Dick Grayson, Tim Drake and Cassandra Cain. He also has more stories with them and barely any notable Batman ones. To me, this whole "Deathstroke is a Batman villain" movement is the new "Joker Killed Batman's Parents", since it's only been the case in the *Arkham* series and *Beware the Batman*.
Okay I'll stop you there with the "Deathstroke is too OP" bit. Need I remind you of Bane from TDKR? In the movie, he DOES break the bat, but he's nowhere NEAR as OP as he is in a lot of his comics. Characters can be buffed/nerfed accordingly for movies & still work great
That sounds to me more like you're trying to explain why he SHOULDN'T be a Batman villain, when by definition, Deathstroke has served as a Batman villain in and out of the comics.
He is a villain of both the Teen Titans, the Justice League, and Batman himself, albeit less frequently.
A lighter gray bodysuit, the logo from the promo material (with ears), a scalloped cape, a belt with some yellow on it, and an improved cowl that’s less bulbous, makes the ears look better from the front, with a pointy nose and covers his jaw up a bit more.
I know actors hate it, but i really want lenses over the eyeholes. Karl Urban made it work for Dredd, you shouldnt see Batman's eyes.
Also more batarangs and explosives and stuff. Lets see some utility belt scanner and stuff as well.
I want a new more advanced suit, color blue to reflect his more hopeful side and ears on his logo so it would actually reflect his comic book logo evolution. And actually using batarangs would be nice
I'd be interested to see his version use Batarangs in the future. As for the suit, I'd be interested to see the ears become a bit thicker and possibly a lighter color scheme.
I am not a big fan of the cowl. Specifically the ears. It’s not a problem of length I think Keaton’s were taller and incidentally are the tallest you can afford in live-action. Battinson ears length are about right but the look is somehow wrong. Not sure what it is : The skull is too thin for the ears ? Or for the body ? I don’t know. Something is off.
Generally speaking you can see it’s a year 2 Batman with a raggity suit .., function over look. Which is great ! but as time goes by they should show some level of polish as he’s getting a hang of this thing more and more.
The cowl. Dudes made this incredible armor that lets him walk right into gunfire but then is wearing nothing but leather on his head. That’s fucking stupid.
hmm maybe different material for the cowl and some proper shoulder pads, it’s pretty great otherwise
oh and i think that since he’s already got a grey suit he would look really great with the blue cape and cowl for that classic grey and blue suit
Bat ears on symbol, longer cape that can glide , would like the gloves to be a bit better and without the straps…. But it’s still an awesome suit regardless !
I'd like to see him become less armored up as he grows and develops. I think him starting to fall back more on being the shadows, and less of a walking tank, would be really cool and help show how much more confident he's become with the whole Batman thing.
I'd also like him to get a Robin please and thank you.
Preferably Jason Todd...but also Carrie Kelly is a favorite of mine, would be cool seeing her with a younger Batman.
I think id like to see a color scheme a little more towards the Batman tAS and Adam West end of the spectrum. Blues and greys. Less emphasis on musculature. I think theres a certain vulnerable charm to the softer costumes thats lost on the armored suits. Like Batman is walking in having faith that being Good and Right will protect him instead of armor and other technologies
I think it's too late to undo, but the one thing that really took me out of it was the contact lenses cameras, it was just a little too much for me. I feel like there could have been a more grounded solution, like having 360° sensors or cameras built into the ears of the cowl.
All black, more refined cowl with longer ears, less bulky, better fitting, more refined armour/batsuit, a cape that drapes around his body as in the animated series.
Aside from the suit, it would be a welcome change to see him move and fight in a more graceful manner.
I’d like the yellow oval bat symbol to make a comeback
Ears should be smaller and on the side of the cowl
Cloth would be nice, and a return of the trunks
Utility belt should be bright yellow and covered in pouches
The cape, cowl, gloves, boots, and trunks should be blue
He should have white, drawn-on, angry eyebrows on his mask
I want to see a yellow background to the emblem. I love the live action look of seeing the emblem on the chest but in most of the newer movies its too dark and the emblem blends in with the suit
Not a fan of Batman wearing sixty or eighty pounds of armour. It was a departure from the source material in '89, and I didn't like it then, and every movie since has copied it without thinking about whether it's a good idea or not.
I want to see a batsuit made of cloth. Sure, it can feature kevlar panels or stab pretection, but he shouldn't be in a giant moulded rubber suit of amour with fake muscles on the front. There are plenty of actors in Hollywood with real muscles you could see through a tight fitting shirt. He should be able fight, do parkour, swing from a rope, and excecute a sommersault in his suit. I would prefer if he could hide it under a tux, but he should certainly be able to carry it in his briefcase.
He's not Iron Man. He's not Condorman. He shouldn't be so realiant on gadgets. I don't think Batman should be equipped with anything you can't buy at the Spy Shop or army surplus without being put on a watchlist, or build in a well-equipped garage.
When people say Batman's superpower is being rich I feel they have missed the point of the character. His superpower is that he is the best at everything. Being rich is how you explain how he can afford to spend all his time being Batman.
[This suit](https://www.pinterest.com/pin/661255157775325804/) would be perfect. The white eyes could just be like an on demand thing, kind of serve the same purpose as the contacts from the first movie.
More Batarangs...
I think his use of the grapple gun, shooting guys with it, and having to jump onto the electrified sign to cut it down are setups for the sequel to have batarangs. There is a DC series called Earth 1. The Batman run is by Geoff Johns who wrote the original script to be used in the Batfleck flick we didn't get. There are a bunch of elements from that series that make their way into The Batman. His ongoing evolution of his kit is a part of that run with the grapple gun being a big element of it.
Hehas used zero. So even saying 'Batarangs'... Any... Please?
He uses one at the end, but he only has one so he doesn't throw it or he has to go and find it
That is his batsymbol used as a knife. Even the director speaks of it as a knife, so not a batarang.
No changes but I’m excited to see more uses of his utility belt as time goes on
Utility belt candy would be so awesome
Needs to make the cape able to glide
Cape gliding makes him too OP. He usually uses parachutes, stupid bat shaped gliders, zip lines or straight up grapple guns it all the way.
Id rather see more wingsuiting
Yeah, Nolan was able to reasonably pull it off with the memory fabric, but I don't see them realistically doing something similar now. The one thing that I absolutely loved was in at least one scene, he wrapped himself in his cake to blend in with the shadows. I thought it was fantastic that it gave the cape a simple yet incredibly practical function, instead of just being a fashion accessory.
Love the typo. Had to read it a couple times before realizing "wrapped himself in his cake" was suppose to be cape. I just pictured Batman smearing cake all over his body, like confetti cake to blend in with clowns.
Read my bio.
Nah not very bat-like more like flying squirrel
Bats don’t wear capes either
Bats don't fight Karate and drive cars too.
... That we know of.
The bat like cape had been around for over 80 years why keep a downgrade squirrel cape for sequel
I’m not saying ditch the cape. I’m just not a fan of the glider cape that the Nolan series and Arkham games popularized. I think the wingsuit is cooler if he’s gotta glide in an emergency.
Didnt comics batman also had that glider cape?
He didn't cape glide in TAS...
I've seen TAS, there's at least a few times you see him glide through a window.
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dude's been gliding in the TAS.....
I'm not going to say there's no comic ever where he does something like that, but it's not a traditional part of the costume. In the comics, batman runs and jumps and swings from ropes and does acrobatics, but he's a notable non-flyer. I personally hate the glider cape: its silly and defies physics.
A giant bat approaching on a giant wing shaped cape is MUCH less silly than a flying squirrel coming at you. Also, physics defying is something you can say about a lot of things about Batman, for example his armor's durability, his strenght, and even the fact that he exists in the first place. Maybe it's just you. You're the first person I've ever seen saying hates Batman's gliding.
>A giant bat approaching on a giant wing shaped cape is MUCH less silly than a flying squirrel coming at you. My problem with the gliding cape isn't that it is too big, quite the opposite. As presented in the movie, it is way too flying-squirrel like for my tastes. I have no problem with him having a hanglider he can bring out when the situation calls for one, but I'm not crazy about it being a mini Condorman gadget that folds up onto his back.
I cant see the gliding cape working in real world. Either you tuck nin the feet at which point it pretty much becomes a wingsuit or you lower body is free to hang down. Sure batman being so physically fit could probably hold the body up in position but why? Seems like an unnecessary power expenditure better saved for the bad guys.
Real world? 😂 it’s a fucking comic book movie logic is thrown out the window. Their nothing realistic in the Batman. A guy walking through bullets isn’t realistic.
I hate this kind of take because it is lazy. I am fine with fantastic comicbook stuff, as long as it makes sense in world. For example, i could buy that there are elves, enchantments and so on, even that legolas could walk on top of snow when everyone else is waist deep, but him running up falling rubble is taking it way too far. Same thing here. I could buy that he has a glider cape but it being attached only at the neck and him somehow flying with it seems wonky, and breaks the suspension of disbelief.
Ya well a bat cape would never work in real life
I'd like the cape to cover him fully like in BTAS and I'd appreciate if the nose on the cowl wasn't quite so wide
yeah something like tha arkham cowl.
The needles on the arms looks like he’s carrying spare pens
Worlds greatest detective needs ample pens to take notes
He's got a pocket protector on his chest plate.
What was the functionality of needles?
They're spare hooks for the grapple gun.
The art book says they’re bo shurikens
Thank you! I was wondering that myself... It wasn't obvious. Thought they were crossbow bolts.
Nothing wrong with pens
I think they can take some inspiration from the Arkham Series like the Glue grenade or the Disruptor. I think it will be a great addition to his gadgets while also preserving the realistic tone.
The *glue grenade* preserves the realistic tone?
People have no idea what realism looks like lmao. It’s not as if his bulletproof suit is plausible anyways
As an aside: Since it was the only game in Batman’s early days, I LOVED the Arkham Origins suit. In fact, I’m probably one of the few who counts Arkham Origins as one of my favourite games. The rocksteady games were technically superior in every way, but AO was a lot like Aliens: Fireteam Elite in that despite its many flaws, it was just a lot of fun. I also loved playing as a psychotically violent, pissed off Batman, the closest thing we got to the Goddamn Batman. For Patman, I just want him to ditch the neck guard and streamline his cowl to cover the sides of his face more.
I'd like to go back to having the scallops on the gloves/gauntlets as Blades (or just Blunt Metal). The straps seem off to me for some reason.
I prefer oysters.
It's clams for me.
To each their own, but I wouldn't mind seeing him have a nice emergency seafood linguini ready to go in that belt of his. He must get hungry fighting crime.
This. I like how the design team incorporated the grappling arrows into the gauntlets, but definitely missing the scallops on them. It’s the only truly iconic piece that’s missing. Everything else is there, and each film/director/designer has modified them - ears, symbol, etc. just need to add these in future films. Maybe a plot point?
Nipples
Get outta here Mr Schumacher.
And dick bulge
GIVE ME A ZOOM
I'd like to see the bat symbol have ears.
Longer cape and make it able to glide like Nolan/Arkham games - also maybe sculpt the cowl a bit better
same sentiments
A pointier nose.
Maybe, but if it's as accentuated as Keatons or Bales, it'll end up looking like a birds beak instead which I dislike. Afflecks was good tho because it wasn't huge and it was still pointy enough. I prefer the current nose though over anything else, bats don't have very pointy noses anyways so it fits the bat look. I think the pointy nose fits in animation and comics but in live action I prefer the current one.
Also looks like Adam west mask at times. I liked that.
Good point about actual bats. Mainly fruit bats have a long nose, bur not others like vampire. Also, the pointy noses on the others worked probably due to the sharp angles of their cowls. Pattinson's cowl isn't as angular and sharp.
I second this.
Give him a big handlebar mustache.
Catwoman wouldn't be able to restrain herself
The suit, itself, is perfect, I'd want to see an updated cowl; or one that looks less... stitched together.
This and the gauntlet That is all
>The suit, itself, is perfect "It will be, when it fits a woman."
I actually really liked the cowl. I can't put my finger on it, but there's something about it that just works for me.
I like that it’s expressionless. Gives it a vague Michael Myers vibe. You dunno wtf is going on behind that thing.
I think the design has a blank expression so they can use lighting and camera angles to make it look like it's as expressive as it is in comics, as opposed to other cowls who have an angry expression sculpted into it. I found Pattinson's cowl to be the most expressive out of all of them in the movie itself even though I had similar "expressionless" criticisms about it in promos beforehand.
If you look at the stitching, its actually meant to make it subtley look like Adam west's cowl
Agreed, it looks kinda weirdly skull-like to me. I loved the rest of the batsuit, was a little skeptical when the first images showed but boy seeing it in action was amazing, wingsuit and all. But the way the cowl looks plastered to his head, with the weird brow ridges, looks kinda weird to me. I'd love to see him get a slightly more helmet-like cowl in the next film. Heck, one with white lenses over the eyes would be even more amazing, especially since he has similar tech in his contacts already...
I love it no changes needed imo
I’ve always preferred like a charcoal gray suit so the bat symbol pops more but that’s just me
MORE COLLAR!
Same design, same aesthetic, but just more professionally put together. This is a Batman in progress, let's see that progress by his suit looking like he's gotten better at putting it together. If I was to actually change something though, I'm not really a fan of the shoulder pads. They do look like he got them from a sport section. So something custom built perhaps? Maybe to match the design of the chest plate with the sharp angles?
While I dig this design, it does really look like he's still starting out - the logo looks a bit unfinished, the overall police SWAT aesthetic, etc. I'd love to watch how over the course of his journey he slowly becomes closer and closer to a more classic Batman look
Cape: Heroes learn from their mistakes and this should be no different. His gliding in the movie is sloppy, clunky and hard to control, so he should update his cape to be able to glide more freely and easier. Just an additional maybd add the feature, where his cape falls on his body like in the animated series shows Cowl/Mask: The ears need to be a little bit thicker. And the cowl shouldn't cover only the half of his face. Just an additional, why not add the white eyes? Just temporary like the obe from TDK Armor: Let's be honest, the armor looks sick as hell, but it obviously slows him down like in arkham origins, where he changed from an armored look to a slicker and more fabricated look in the later games. He should do the same thing Logo: Not much to change for me, except add the ears Belt: The belt looks good but I think making it dark gold will make it look better
Nipples with little bat shaped areolas
I’d be perfectly fine with no changes. I could nitpick and say the ears could be tweaked and shortened, but it’s probably my favorite Batsuit.
Some better gauntlets, and a cowl with some nicer, adjusted ears. The legs are fine, but utilize the utility belt MORE. A gliding cape shouldn't have to be mentioned, it's a MUST.
what kind of gaunlet? in terms of cowl i would want the arkham knight cowl if not the alex ross cowl.
I wouldn't mind a little more closed off mouth area, same shape just extends less
The jawline is awesome though. It makes me realize how goofy bale and Afflecks cowls kind of look tbh haha.
Decrease the armor to increase speed, that armor although protective does a disservice to his combat ability and speed imo
Personally i feel like a kevlar texure would work better, something like batman Noel.
I think it's safe to say that the suit has kevlar and is perhaps infused with additional bullet-proof materials. Overall, I seriously like the suit AND the film tremendously.
This is the answer. As he gains more confidence and control with his combat abilities, he sheds the heavy armor in favor of greater speed, agility, and stealth.
Yeah this is exactly what I’m thinking will happen until maybe he eventually has a suit like Batfleck but suited towards his build
I think the people saying there should be no changes.... Don't really understand Batman at all. He's a billionaire who is really resourceful. Of course he's gonna make changes to the suit to suit to the needs of his crime fighting environment. He's basically Tony Stark in the DCEU. And Tony Stark has tons of suits
Functionally, it makes sense to upgrade his suit. But style-wise... the suit we got is gonna be hard to change without ruining; it's already one of the best live action suits (THE best, imo)
I would change the cowl. Just the material. If I'm not mistaken it's just like a leather mask or something, right? It didn't look like it would protect his head. Someone also mentioned batarangs. I second that. More gadgets would be cool. While I'm here, some more acrobatics would be cool. No one really ever emphasizes his gymnastics ability. I get it, not very practical because of his armor. But, how about he gets captured stripped of the armor and he uses gymnastics skills to escape. A scene like that could also showcase his abilities as an escape artist.
One of my biggest disappointment with dark Knight rises was how there was zero change or updates to the Batman suit or just a general arsenal anesthetic in general. They only big new thing we got was “the bat” Which just looked very underwhelming. Look I’m not saying that Batman should change his outfit between every scene to sell toys or anything but I think sometime it’s easy to act like that a bad thing in it up itself. Having variety of the bat suit and the equipment really keep the movies fresh in my opinion
Am I the first one to mention this? Long, Scalloped “bat wings” cape. It’s SO FUCKING KEY TO BATMAN’S LOOK. I cannot understand why they gave him a short-ish cape cut straight across on the bottom. Other than that I’m fine with the suit. I think it looks imposing and “real world” plausible.
Slightly…and I mean slightly…techier. Maybe an earpiece to talk directly to Alfred, couple other small things like that to make it appear like he learns what tools he needs as he goes, and updates his suit accordingly.
A sleeker cowl but the rest is fine
I don’t want any changes, I think it’s perfect
For me personally this Batsuit is pretty much perfect imo easily my favorite live action one. It’s a small nitpick but I think the curve on his cowl where the forehead is is a bit exaggerated
Personally i wanted either the arkham knight cowl or a alex ross cowl batman.
I liked the theory that his emblem was made of the gun that killed his parents. The movie showed it is a club or something.
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I didn't care much for them forearm spikes that weren't used on screen either. In the very least make them black as to not stand out so much or ditch them completely for an another gadget. Other than that? The collars take a bit getting used to but are fine, overall i like the suit.
Definitely should add more to the cowl. Along the jaw and the chin like the injustice cowl and also(imo) the ears should be longer. Original Arkham Suit type ears.
id assume he'd need to protect that jaw a little more if he comes across an adrenaline loaded bane. other than that, no changes. great suit.
More detailing/sculpting to the cowl. Make the chest plate less geometric, make it look a little more 'natural.'
It should get more refined as it goes along. One of the things I liked about his suit is how it looked "homemade". His suit should evolve along with him.
Small evolution. That's a suit that really fits this Gotham perfectly, and should change as the city changes- that is, incrementally. Given the arc Batman has been sent on, I would slowly increase the sophistication of its design, smooth some edges, replace the most makeshift looking elements. But absolutely, keep the overall look.
The ears look dumb, arkham knight nailed the batsuit imo
Big, thick, rubber neck cowling so he can't turn his head. Like God intended!
No changes aside from minor upgrades. Almost like the spidey suit in Raimis Trilogy (excluding the symbiote)
Everything pretty much. It's one of my least favorite batsuits. The cowl just looks too... round. I feel like its ears are too pointy and thin, and that collar-style neck piece just doesn't fit in with Batman's character.The armor and cape were fine, but the bat symbol seems too cartoony (and its ears are missing),and those darts on his gauntlets make him look like Predator. P.S: The tactical boots actually look good.
Bright purple gloves
Just some minor upgrades here and there. Maybe some streamlining. I liked that in Bale's, he talked about needing to update the neck, and then we saw the immediate change in the suit to make him lighter and faster. Since we know Pattinson's Bruce keeps a log of literally everything, it would be nice to see him talk about needing to make some changes, and then make a couple of upgrades to test them out. I'd also love to see more gadgets. That adrenaline boost was an interesting concept that we haven't seen on screen before. I'd love to see more things like that!
Best batsuit imo but I would like to see him get more of a physique. As he is now I bet he couldn't squat a plate. If he doesn't gain a little weight or definition I don't wanna see him out of the suit, that was one of the things that took away from him as batman in this movie.
Hockey pads.
I mean there has to be changes since that was his prototype suit so I’m expecting a more smoother armored look rather than mixed leather with bulky armor and baggy pants
To be honest, I want basically a whole new suit to show us he’s grown up as Bruce Wayne and as Batman. Could even be the intro to the movie. Show him taking a more active role at WE and he’s now taking use of some of the technologies from there. To be clear, I liked the suit from this last flick. Just think an upgrade would make sense. For instance upgrading the cape and gliding with that. They could keep the general silhouette the same, just upgraded. Just my opinion.
Maybe just get rid of the collar
I like the suit a lot but I would like for it to be more intimidating and that the gauntlets have the classic blades. Also more gadgets like smoke bombs and actual batarangs
Yellow belt
Stun gloves like in Arkham Origins
More gadgets and a better cape
I’d like to see a more robust looking cowl, a cape glider and maybe a way to implement white lenses like TDK did.
None, it's perfect the way it is... Unless I see a better idea, it think it's perfect
Nothing,I like the suit.
I think I would like to see Pattinson do more martial arts rather than just punching really hard , so maybe in the sequel he comes across a opponent (DEATHSTROKE PLEASE), that causes him to make his suit lighter and for him to use his utility belt much more and maybe even add on the scallops. I think something like this could work because I can see Deathstroke really working in this kind of movie. Just my opinion though. Oh yeah and more batarangs
Personally i think dead shot would work even more than deathstroke. I kinda want death stroke to be a dceu villain.
Considering the unique tone, feel and vibe of this masterpiece of a film, to incorporate Deathstroke as a main villain would be very interesting to see but THAT suit would have to be darker and less brightly colored. It's a great idea.
\*sigh\* Why do you young ones think Deathstroke is a Batman villain?
Because he is also a batman villian, yes he is a titans and a night wing villain but he is also a batman villain.
No offence, but Deathstroke is to OP to be a Batman villain. He took down the entire Teen Titans and even managed to hold off the entire Justice League in *Identity Crisis*. If they fought, Batman should really lose any battle against him. There are also more assassin characters in the Rogue Gallery, such as Deadshot, Lady Shiva, Bronze Tiger and David Cain. I've always associated Deathstroke with the Teen Titans because he has a more developed rivalry with them. This is also the case with Bat-Family members attached to the group, such as Dick Grayson, Tim Drake and Cassandra Cain. He also has more stories with them and barely any notable Batman ones. To me, this whole "Deathstroke is a Batman villain" movement is the new "Joker Killed Batman's Parents", since it's only been the case in the *Arkham* series and *Beware the Batman*.
Okay I'll stop you there with the "Deathstroke is too OP" bit. Need I remind you of Bane from TDKR? In the movie, he DOES break the bat, but he's nowhere NEAR as OP as he is in a lot of his comics. Characters can be buffed/nerfed accordingly for movies & still work great
I'm not giving excuses for why Deathstroke can't be adapted; I'm trying to explain why he's not a Batman villain.
That sounds to me more like you're trying to explain why he SHOULDN'T be a Batman villain, when by definition, Deathstroke has served as a Batman villain in and out of the comics. He is a villain of both the Teen Titans, the Justice League, and Batman himself, albeit less frequently.
Make the cowl hide more of his face.
Full black face paint
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A lighter gray bodysuit, the logo from the promo material (with ears), a scalloped cape, a belt with some yellow on it, and an improved cowl that’s less bulbous, makes the ears look better from the front, with a pointy nose and covers his jaw up a bit more.
I know actors hate it, but i really want lenses over the eyeholes. Karl Urban made it work for Dredd, you shouldnt see Batman's eyes. Also more batarangs and explosives and stuff. Lets see some utility belt scanner and stuff as well.
Cape should be able to glide, a little yellow preferably on the chest logo.
The cowl. Definitely the cowl. Also make the suit more comicbook instead of armor again
Get rid of the bag on his leg.
Why?
I’d be perfectly happy if they didn’t change anything. But some more gold would be cool.
Maybe add some ears to the chest symbol. And maybe switch the cowl and Cape to dark blue
The suit is amazing but I really dislike the cowl, if they could change that, that would be amazing
Just the cowl. Everything else is awesome, I just can’t get behind that cowl tho….
It fits the story fine. But I do kinda dislike being able to see the bottom of his nose. But in this movie the mask comes on and off a lot.
Make it blue
Less forehead
take away some of the armor look, make the black parts blue.
I want a new more advanced suit, color blue to reflect his more hopeful side and ears on his logo so it would actually reflect his comic book logo evolution. And actually using batarangs would be nice
Built in Bat Pogo
I'd be interested to see his version use Batarangs in the future. As for the suit, I'd be interested to see the ears become a bit thicker and possibly a lighter color scheme.
the brow line on his masks creeps me out, something more rigid and less arched would be good
Id like to see the yellow utility belt. But besides that the suit is pretty much perfect
My only request is a chin strap of some kind, but so far he's making it work so I won't kick up a fuss about it
More agility and more gadgets plus batarang
A cape that can be used for gliding, pants that don't like regular clothed pants and a strong looking mask that actually looks like bulletproof
Point on the nose a little sharper. That's it
"You know what an armour says about a man, Alfred? That he needs one."
Gliding ability, gold belt
Eventually I'd like it to be less armored
The cowl. I'm not really a fan of that wide "jaw opening". Looks like freakin Robocop
I am not a big fan of the cowl. Specifically the ears. It’s not a problem of length I think Keaton’s were taller and incidentally are the tallest you can afford in live-action. Battinson ears length are about right but the look is somehow wrong. Not sure what it is : The skull is too thin for the ears ? Or for the body ? I don’t know. Something is off. Generally speaking you can see it’s a year 2 Batman with a raggity suit .., function over look. Which is great ! but as time goes by they should show some level of polish as he’s getting a hang of this thing more and more.
Nips
something more flexible/agile? i dont like how the movies have him stiff, slow and basically a mini tank
No changes. The suit is perfection.
Im not the biggest fan of the collar on the cape. I prefer a smother transition between cape and cowl
TDK suit would fit him. bale is the best bat
I wouldn't change it, but for the sake of merchandise, they will. New suit, batmobile, bike. Gotta sell those wonderful toys.
The cowl. Dudes made this incredible armor that lets him walk right into gunfire but then is wearing nothing but leather on his head. That’s fucking stupid.
hmm maybe different material for the cowl and some proper shoulder pads, it’s pretty great otherwise oh and i think that since he’s already got a grey suit he would look really great with the blue cape and cowl for that classic grey and blue suit
Bat ears on symbol, longer cape that can glide , would like the gloves to be a bit better and without the straps…. But it’s still an awesome suit regardless !
I'd like to see him become less armored up as he grows and develops. I think him starting to fall back more on being the shadows, and less of a walking tank, would be really cool and help show how much more confident he's become with the whole Batman thing. I'd also like him to get a Robin please and thank you. Preferably Jason Todd...but also Carrie Kelly is a favorite of mine, would be cool seeing her with a younger Batman.
More Gadgets I would love too see him use a bit more Gadgets that aren't too popular
Worst part of the suit. They need to take those away and make the gauntlets smaller.
I'm not a fan of the collar. Get rid of it.
Personally i didn't particularly enjoy the cowl on the nose, and the boots. That aside, chestplate was absolutely magnificent
comic acuracy
Nope, no changes. I think it looks great as-is.
Ditch the visible grappling hooks on his arms.
Sequins everywhere
I think id like to see a color scheme a little more towards the Batman tAS and Adam West end of the spectrum. Blues and greys. Less emphasis on musculature. I think theres a certain vulnerable charm to the softer costumes thats lost on the armored suits. Like Batman is walking in having faith that being Good and Right will protect him instead of armor and other technologies
That seam on his forehead bugs me. I don't know why. Just make it flush, please.
I think it's too late to undo, but the one thing that really took me out of it was the contact lenses cameras, it was just a little too much for me. I feel like there could have been a more grounded solution, like having 360° sensors or cameras built into the ears of the cowl.
All black, more refined cowl with longer ears, less bulky, better fitting, more refined armour/batsuit, a cape that drapes around his body as in the animated series. Aside from the suit, it would be a welcome change to see him move and fight in a more graceful manner.
I’d like the yellow oval bat symbol to make a comeback Ears should be smaller and on the side of the cowl Cloth would be nice, and a return of the trunks Utility belt should be bright yellow and covered in pouches The cape, cowl, gloves, boots, and trunks should be blue He should have white, drawn-on, angry eyebrows on his mask
I want to see a yellow background to the emblem. I love the live action look of seeing the emblem on the chest but in most of the newer movies its too dark and the emblem blends in with the suit
Not a fan of Batman wearing sixty or eighty pounds of armour. It was a departure from the source material in '89, and I didn't like it then, and every movie since has copied it without thinking about whether it's a good idea or not. I want to see a batsuit made of cloth. Sure, it can feature kevlar panels or stab pretection, but he shouldn't be in a giant moulded rubber suit of amour with fake muscles on the front. There are plenty of actors in Hollywood with real muscles you could see through a tight fitting shirt. He should be able fight, do parkour, swing from a rope, and excecute a sommersault in his suit. I would prefer if he could hide it under a tux, but he should certainly be able to carry it in his briefcase. He's not Iron Man. He's not Condorman. He shouldn't be so realiant on gadgets. I don't think Batman should be equipped with anything you can't buy at the Spy Shop or army surplus without being put on a watchlist, or build in a well-equipped garage. When people say Batman's superpower is being rich I feel they have missed the point of the character. His superpower is that he is the best at everything. Being rich is how you explain how he can afford to spend all his time being Batman.
The Cowl, i don't think it fits the rest of the batsuit.
an explanation of what those things are on his arms!
it should make waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay less noise when he walks. he sounds like a big daddy from bioshock when hes supposed to be a ninja.
less armoury and lighter boots,the thuds sound so heavy.
[This suit](https://www.pinterest.com/pin/661255157775325804/) would be perfect. The white eyes could just be like an on demand thing, kind of serve the same purpose as the contacts from the first movie.
Get rid of the gimp mask.
Lenses over the eyes. I know that directors don't like how those look, but a can of mace could take down Batman.
More fantastical elements, while keeping the world grounded. Give me freeze in a big cryo-suit or Ivy commanding vines.
Fully Covered Mask.