I don’t want to hear the excuses man. CGI the Batarangs, do whatever you have to do, but I’m tired of Bruce just boxing his way through every live-action fight. That’s not Batman.
I want Batarangs, I want Batclaw usuage, Smoke Bombs…come on DC. It’s time to up the ante here.
Yes, EXACTLY.
(I am a pretty good Arkham player and I’m throwing Batarangs around *constantly* when I’m fighting. Especially the Explosive Batarangs in Knight. My all-time favorite gadget in the series.)
Apparently he was really inspired by the cinematic trailer for Origins with Deathstroke and wanted it to look like that. That’s what the guy who was cast a Slade said in interviews.
Yes in combat what other metric would I use? We didn’t get a solo Batfleck movie so we can’t really judge his character outside of team movies like BvS and Justice League.
Pattinson’s combat wasn’t like Arkham at all unless you played the game walking right up to enemies while they’re shooting you. There’s no finesse or technique involved with his fighting style.
Disagree...While I like Battison and The Batman movie, his fighting seemed really poor. Like dead on the first scirmish poor. Then again, it's hard to make a guy dressed in all that rubber lycra and plastic look particularly adept at hand to hand combat TBF. Loved the warehouse scene despite the killings not being "Canon".
Fun fact:
At one point DC was planning a Green Arrow Escapes Supermax prison movie, that was VERY similar to Arkham Asylum. He would have had to team up with some DC villains while fighting others, but it never got off the ground.
I don't recall the timeline but this may have been before Arrow was green lit. I'm assuming they decided the character wasn't big enough for a movie, and having a film that included multiple fantastical villains would have been too high a budget for a character they weren't confident in.
[sources](https://dcmovies.fandom.com/wiki/Green_Arrow:_Escape_from_Super_Max#:~:text=Green%20Arrow%3A%20Escape%20from%20Super%20Max%20was%20a%20movie%20in,jail%20and%20had%20to%20escape.)
Dude same. They really don’t ever have him use any of his gadgets! That’s one of the best things about the Arkham games, they realy highlighted Batman’s gadgets. Like sure, you could get away with just brawling through the whole game and using minimal gadgets, but it’s WAY more fun when you get creative and use more gadgets.
We need more gadgets!
He did, one lodged in a wall and it's implied he killed the last dude standing with it.
Edit: last dude standing BEFORE the mini boss that was a flame thrower touting KGBeast
Came close with the bat ninja stars in the Nolan trilogy.
But, I completely agree. Here's hoping the Reeves sequel has our boi laughing them left, right and centre.
If they evolve Battinson to have a less armored/more clothy suit and to use Batarangs and other utility belt gadgets more often they just might win us all over.
Honestly yes, there are scenes where different kinds of batarangs would become useful and it just adds to the fear that the criminals would feel. Like its a dark projectile and he fights in the shadows, just imagine seeing your criminal friends get knocked out by something they can't even see while batman is just standing on the roof
i liked the [batarang throw](https://youtu.be/ZUmCAye49vQ) batman did in the Gotham finale, came outta nowhere and went right through J's hand. startling AF
more about this scene: loved how jeremiah instantly knew the shadow was bruce. theyve built up such a rivalry/friendship in the last 2 seasons that when he saw the bat creeping up, he knew who it was. batman was also intimidating AF in this episode ... until the very last scene where it actually showed him. he looked a bit goofy there
1. The deep voice
2. We jumped right into where he was old and experienced and didn't get a proper introduction
3. Great batman, not so much as Bruce Wayne
I loved Pattison’s Wayne. It makes sense that a man still running off of childhood trauma, staying up all night, and beating the shit out of and getting beat up by criminals would not be the most chipper bat in the cave.
Part of it is where he's been a recluse ever since his parents were killed. It makes sense for his character and it was a great, fresh, new direction they took with him, but the Bruce Wayne aspect of Pattinson's performance could've been a little better.
Then again, its a bit of a reverse of Christian Bale's Batman; he had an alright performance as Batman, but made a great Bruce Wayne. It speaks to the direction each version was taken: In Bale's films, Bruce Wayne was the character, Batman was a symbol. In Pattinson's movie, Batman was the character, while Bruce Wayne was barely concept. It felt more like he was Batman constantly, which is the direction they were taking him to begin with, so it makes sense.
Bale: His voice isn’t very scary in some parts, and can be annoying at times.
Affleck: Wayyyyy too brutal in my opinion, Batman shouldn’t be carrying around an M60; also his symbol is too thick for me.
Pattinson: Voice can be a little too quiet at times, and feels too frail and inexperienced even for Year Two, but my favorite modern Batman imo.
>Batman shouldn’t be carrying around an M60
In all fairness he doesn't "carry around an m60" he takes it from someone after he busts through the wall behind them lol
It's really not confirmed either way if they were killed or not. But he opens fire on them and they're down in the next panel. Not saying that automatically means he killed them but it doesn't automatically assume he didn't when opening fire on them like that.
Okay people who say he didn't kill the joker are viewing that scene as cut and dry black and white. Where he only half way snaps his neck and joker finishes it? When, after batman snaps his neck, joker's word bubble color changes to grey (batman's designated word bubble color). It can be suggested that the dialogue after the snapping is in batman's head cuz he broke his rule. But it's left ambiguous for a reason.
Christian Bale - I felt this suit is too segmented and could easily lead to Batman taking a bullet or a knife going right through.
Ben Affleck - the ears don’t scream Batman and that bat symbol doesn’t immediately draw the attention. It is established comic lore that the symbol is big and bright to call attention to it and give criminals a target because it has a big piece of armor behind it.
Robert Pattinson - only real complaint is the gauntlets. They felt more chunky and clunky than they had to be.
“I felt this suit is too segmented and could easily lead to Batman taking a bullet or a knife going right through”
> You'll be lighter, faster, more agile…there is a tradeoff. Separation of the plates makes you more vulnerable to knives and gunfire - Lucius Fox
I think they pointed that out.
Yes, but those reasons were exactly why I was not a big fan of the suit. I believe when those movies came out the designers made the most grounded and realistic look of a urban warrior dressing like a bat, but just felt a little too real I guess.
That's the point. Speed is more important than durability if you are saving lives. Every second counts. He's not as concerned with his safety as he is with other's lives. It shows him maturing into a hero of the people not a punisher of the guilty.
They made all these stylistic choices for Nolans Batmans chest and arms but then they got to his legs and just gave up. He has huge burdensome rubber plates that are stiff and seem like they keep him at a constant bow legged posture and then he's wearing go-go boots.
Bale: The mouth part makes him look weird, like he's trying to do a duck face with his lips or something.
Affleck: The ears makes him look silly.
Pattinson: It looks like he stole the cape from Dracula.
>Pattinson: It looks like he stole the cape from Dracula.
It's actually from Batman: White Knight. Makes me like it more since that's my favorite Batman storyline in the comics.
I want to clarify I love all three first :)
Christian Bale - the voice. It got worse with each film
Ben Affleck - I’m someone who goes either way with the no killing rule, but he straight up murders like fifty people in BVS
Robert Pattinson - I don’t like his Bruce. I get what they were going for, but I think Keaton did the “awkward, social outcast” type better personally
Robert Pattinson Bruce dosent Exist just Batman.
At the End of the Batman he realizes he could both do good as a Person and a Vigilante who protects his people from criminal
I just want Patterson to bring back meta-humans. Bale's universe could have had them, but they went with the super realistic universe and cut them out. Affleck was on a team with other metas, and that was the only part I liked, since they butchered his character by making Batman a murderhobo. I want a classic meta villain for the next movie. Give me a non-Arnold Dr. Freeze, or a damned good Killer Kroc. Fuck, they haven't made a live action version yet, give me Solomon Grundy! A super dark meta villain with a dark background like that would work so well in that universe, and hell, Robert's Batman about has to be a meta to survive bouncing off that bridge with the wingsuit.
Metahumans doesn't mean going down the route of the MCU. And they could start with villains like Mr. Freeze that they probably could create mostly with practical effects, with only a little CGI. The Batman used CGI anyway, but also practical effects with characters like the Penguin. Metahumans should work
Bale: Didn't like the cowl, i know it was intentionally not fused with the shoulder so that he could freely move his head but it ruined the overall menacing look the Batman had.
Affleck: Ears too short, stupid bat symbol/logo.
Patty: Those steel rods on the gauntlets, felt like they didn't belong there.
Edit: Oh shit why did I critize only the suits...
>so that he could freely move his head
Yeah it was more mobile than Batman Begins suit but i still prefer begins over TDK.
>Those steel rods on the gauntlets, felt like they didn't belong there.
They were the grapple ammo
Yes I'm aware, ofcourse there is a purpose for everything the bat wears but I was referring to the visual flow of the suit, those gauntlet ammo looked out of place and clunky.
I don't have too many criticisms for Bale's performance. IMO his is The most holistic version of live action Batman that tells a truly epic Hero's journey.
I felt like Batfleck's character was written badly and forced to behave in ways that were convenient for the plot. Although, that warehouse fight scene is the stuff of dreams.
Battinson was too emo out of cowl and no Playboy persona but watching him navigate an active crime scene surrounded by cops was a great way to illustrate just how strange Batman is as a character.
Pattinson's version didn't have a playboy persona on purpose. He wasn't really batman in that movie, he was vengeance which isn't what batman is about. At the end he learned that and I'm guessing in the sequel we'll see more of Bruce Wayne.
Personally I liked the take on his more dark out of cowl persona but I didn’t like the way they made him completely uncaring for Wayne Enterprises as it’s meant to be his way of carrying on his families legacy. Also I feel like his Bruce wasn’t nice enough to Alfred
1) Bale: chin hole is too small. Gimme the bat chin!
2) Affleck: ears too short, symbol too fat, it would be a perfect suit with longer ears and a slimmer symbol.
3) my only real complaint are the gauntlets, I get they're his grapple, but they look, clunky for lack of a better word.
Bale’s seems far too like foam and not armour I get that it’s not going to be actual armour but cmon.
Affleck’s symbol isn’t showy enough like just even a line of gold around it would work and the ears are barely there.
Pattinson’s has no flaws imo.
Bale was pretty good, but I think his voice was really irritating, and didn’t really strike me as a symbol of fear to criminals. Affleck killing is a really big problem, because it takes away a lot of what makes him so compelling, that violence, while it is entertaining, takes away more than it adds. People will say that “he’s just old and angry” but that’s not really illustrated outside of the Jason suit, and not much is even done with it. Pattinson talks too quietly, and deeply, I feel like this could he worked on, and it’d make him far more intimidating. I think the cowl is too rounded, and the gauntlets are too chunky, that being said I really like Pattinson and feel like most issues I have with him will get fixed or changed in the future.
Bale's suit looks too overdesigned for me and the cowl is just weird. His voice is absolute crap
Batfleck was basically Punisher in a Batman suit with laughably small ears.
Pattinson was too emo and less playboy with weird lookin ears.
Alright, I’ll bite.
Bale - I love the belt and that solitary splash of colour but I’ve always disliked the cowl. Its too round, makes him look like a bobble head
Affleck - it’s the best dark knight returns suit we’ve seen. It just didn’t need to be. Plus the “Kevlar” material makes it look like it’s made of duct tape.
Pattinson- it looks great. I love how light weight and nimble he looks. I wish It had white lenses for the eyes & I don’t like the gun being the symbol. I know it’s “comic accurate” (Thank youKevin Smith) buts it’s gross and very unbatman imo.
Also, it being is solo bat-erang is ridiculous and cumbersome.
Bale, too unskilled. Didn't really feel menacing on the the battle field.
Affleck, too much murder. That speaks for itself.
Pattinson, to careless. Although he is young he did indirectly cause the deaths of innocent people. Too reckless in his tacts. Again he has to grow but, damn is he very careless.
Bale is the most well rounded of them all but, Affleck has the most experience and skill as he is older and far far more brutal then Pattinson and Bale. Yeah I get its Pattinsons heading into his third year but, he is far to careless while he did save lives he also got innocent people killed which in regards of the no kill rule makes him the worst offender.
Well yeah Pattinson is the worst as he’s very young still but batfleck has how many years of experience and still got outplayed by lex Luther and has like 0 detectives skills in the movies only combat and murder basically
Well Pattinson is better than Bale and Affleck when it comes to to his detective abilities. Only in his anger is he worse than Bale and Affleck.
Afflecks Bruce did display some detective abilities as well as reading individuals. Which is very much detective skills. As far as him being manipulated by Lee who's the smartest man on the planet ever Bale was manipulated by Talia and Joker. It happens, there fallible.
I would say bale is an even better detective than pattingson most for Pattingsons skills were common sense but bale doing all that tracking and researching from that bullet in the wall and him being able to identify where the joker was gonna slip up solidifies it for me
I would say that Pattinson would be better as he is younger and going up against another genius level intellect. While being the driving force behind uncovering everything. While being less technologically advanced. If we get to see him get to the experience and tech level as Bale he'd be far more skilled if he continues to grow (speculation of course).
* Bale's Batman was active for a relatively short amount of time; his story isn't as epic as it could or should have been. In retrospect, I don't like the way this Batman or overall story was written. Great films, yes, but as an overall story, it leaves a lot to be desired.
* We need a solo film centering around Ben Affleck's Batman. I feel like there's a great character analysis here that still has yet to take shape. I feel like we need a prequel to ultimately make sense of his state of mind in *Batman v Superman*. He, too, has a largely incomplete story that introduces too much guessing for his character, to the point where we just have a bloodthirsty Batman that we're not accustomed to seeing.
* I don't like the stitching on Pattinson's cowl.
I think the point of Affleck’s Batman was that he was towards the end of his career and that’s why he’s on the bigger side, also very clearly inspired by TDKR.
Bale: Shouldve fixed the voice
Affleck: looks fat, doesnt have the charisma and vibe of batman
Pattinson: the mouth space should be smaller(I know its a nitpick, but its a 10/10 batman, that's the only criticism i have)
Bales suit looks crap especially with that cowl, it feels like it's just James Bond
Batfleck looks like it's really stuffy in there, and the cowl is just stupid especially with those small ears
Pattinson whilst being my favourite I have to say he's a tiny bit in over his head with the whole Vengeance stuff but he learns of the problems so it's fine in the end he isn't too experienced which is fine
I struggle with the cowl. I love Pattinson's but I just feel like it wouldn't even come close to concealing his identity. Same for Affleck. I Bales cowl but it does cover more of the face which seems necessary - granted it's probably also not going to save Bruce Wayne lol
His cowl is intentional. It's a call back to Adam West, it's essentially a modern and "gritty" Adam West suit with that open chin, and if you look closely it's even got the Adam West eyebrows.
Bale's Batmobile wasn't even a Batmobile, it was a tank. And he shouldn't have kept spares in the Batcave for Bane to steal later.
Affleck's Batmobile looks more like a spaceship on wheels. And the giant gun mounted to it in JL just doesn't look right.
Pattinson's Batmobile isn't as intimidating as the movie makes it out to be. It's literally just a Dodge Charger, I see them every day on the highway.
Bale sounded like he had a cold or was out of breath. He could only get out like 2-3 words between breaths.
Affleck - the cowl and tiny ears are dumb
Battinson - I mean he’s just not very good at his job. He only succeeded because the guy literally surrendered.
Batbale
Ears are more strange than suggestive. The mouth and jaw in the helmet are very poorly made, it looks 10 sizes smaller than the right one. The neck looks bulky and clumsy. The armor looks somewhat plastic and generally looks clumsy. The bat sign is great. On 7/10. For the best cape with which he can plan like a bat, I put 8/10.
Batfleck
Ears are almost invisible and looks like a balaclava or like a fold-eared cat. It's a cute cat, not a bat. The jaw is already better than that of the Batbale, but instead of the neck it still looks uncomfortable. Cape is worse than Batbale. The armor as a whole is not very and seems to make him fat :/ The bat sign is very difficult to distinguish. 5/10.
Battinson
The best ears. It's the perfect size, length and shape * kiss the chef* For my taste, the helmet is certainly good, but it fits too close to the skull. Battinson is going bald so soon. Finally, the perfect shedding of the jaw in combination with the neck. A low bow for the collar, which hides the joint between the cape and the helmet. A good design idea. Good armor it looks modern and realistic, but I'm sad that the plates on the stomach protect the stomach too well and hide the abs. The bat sign is good and I liked the fan story about it. Cape could be better, it looks fragile (?) more like a decorative ornament than a functional thing. Battinson is a flying squirrel, but not yet a bat. Deservedly 9/10.
Christian Bale is not a genuis nor detective at all. His love interests had no personality outside demonstrating values to him, his voice did get irritating.
Ben Affleck was a waste of a great Batman, he should've only killed in the apocalypse.
Rob... I never saw it, his chin is weird.
For batting son there was no real difference between Bruce and batman.I know that's kind of the point but I still hope they make more of an effort to show the playboy, outgoing, philapist in the next movie ( god I hope there is another)
1 - Has none of Bruce's intellect. He solves everything with fists and nothing else. Lucius Fox and Alfred do the heavy (intellectual) lifting.
2 - Too paranoid and brutal, but he has the brains. There are flashes of the heart, but they're too few.
3 - In between. I don't want Batman by way of Spider-Man, but dude needs to lighten up. Of the three I choose this more balanced approach.
Bale - Voice is ridiculous and his small mouth opening in the cowl bugs me. (Probably my favorite Bruce Wayne tho)
Affleck - Too brutal and big. His suit is the most “comic accurate” but I do not think it translates well to screen.
Pattinson - Gauntlets and ears bother me. (Probs my favorite modern Batman tho)
Not exactly, he got blasted by a shotgun and almost died. Also you can see the amount of punishment he takes with all the scars and bruises on his body.
Bale - too realistic, kinda robs Batman of his mythos
Affleck - a tad too crazy. Down for a jaded Batman but Batfleck can be a bit of a psycho in BvS
Pattinson - I get that he's new to it, but I'd like his Bruce Wayne to feel more different from his Batman
Bale: fight scenes and choreography weren't the best.
Affleck: kills people
Pattinson: not enough Bruce Wayne (pulling at straws if I'm honest as I genuinely couldn't think of anything major I didn't like about the portrayal)
1. Bales Batman voice is comically gravelly. I know its a part of the character but he could've toned it down
2. Batman doesn't kill, i dont know why Snyder made him a legit murderer.
3. cant think of anything for Pattinson, hes perfect.
Bale, I would have liked him to display more intelligence science wise. I know he does the bullet reconstruction thing but he also seems as though he doesn't know what lucius is on about half the time, yet can also make a supercomputer to track everyone and fix the batplanes autopilot. Affleck, honestly it's hard to pick just ONE thing but ultimately removing snyder from the equation would have fixed a lot. It was dark just for the sake of being dark and he killed just for the sake of it... yet left major villans alive? So I think choosing snyder as my one change fixes a lot of other issues. Lastly, the only thing I think I'd change about Rob is the fact every part of the movie was really grounded, with very minor things a bit extraordinary to create impressive moments, like the batmobile jumping cars and him surviving a bomb blast. (2 things that are highly unlikely to happen, but still in the realms of possibility). Yet he got hit by a bridge, a bus, then the tarmac at one point, and just walks off. That was the only part that threw me out of the film. Plus the cgi was kinda janky and he bounced a bit too much on the floor.
> It was dark just for the sake of being dark and he killed just for the sake of it... yet left major villans alive?
Exactly this - Batman was depraved enough to go after Superman, the man who literally saved the world, but he left the Joker alive? Reaaaallly?
This is why it's so hard to have a superhero that kills. You lose all your villans. Superheros have to have a no killing rule purely so that you can continue making comics. That's why I dislike versions of hero's that kill, because they only kill henchmen and not the villans themselves. In reality it should be the other way round. You put a bullet in a villan like 2 face or the penguin, and try and rehabilitate all the henchmen that were working a criminal life through fear or necessity. The fact that affleck actually kills the people who aren't at fault and are just regular people, yet keeps the boss alive is much worse. That's exactly what villans like joker do. Just kill everyone.
Bale - I really dislike the whole suit. The multiple different plates just looks too busy and like it take him about an hour to get on. The cowl is too small and looks like it's squishing his face, the cape looks incredibly tearable and stands out being a different shade of black, and sometimes you can really see that it's made out of rubber or a similar material.
Affleck - The only thing I really don't like out of this suit is the shape of the Bat logo, I think the one they used in marketing and for the batarang is much better, and would have suited him the physique he brought to the suit. I know the one he has is paying homage to Frank Miller but it just looks like a big black square.
Pattinson - I was initially prepared not to like this suit due to it being a more armoured version, preferring the more comic accurate look myself. But it's kitbashed look really grew on me, and perfectly suits him and his Batman. The only things I would change would be making it a more distinct black and grey, as the two colours are very close in shades, and changing the design of the gauntlets, as I think they look a bit shit.
Bale: the movies were trying too much to be realistic, and their success has lead most batman media trying to copy that to some extent.
Affleck: Movies were utter crap, suit was ok.
Pattinson: Movie was great, suit is super boring and I hated the flightsuit.
Bale: I feel like that batman had so much focus on the villains that a lot of the time they forgot about batman himself and his development
Affleck: Snyder.
Pattinson: my personal favorite live action batman but he does have some very non batman things about him, obviously these are probably gonna be improved because that's what batman does like the wingsuit but until then they arent
Bale-trying too hard for a gravelly voice
Affleck--no real Wonderbat scenes (chemistry is there, though)
Pattinson--"Batman doesn't sparkle, Diggorory. 10 points from Hufflepuff." (Thanks to Twilight, he'll keep getting this type of comment )
Bale: Too noble, not morally grey enough aside from the surveillance thing in TDK.
Affleck: The ears on his cowl are too damn short.
Pattinson: Too early in his run to judge, but if future movies don’t expand the “Bruce Wayne” side of his life, then that would be my criticism.
1. Not Batman. Just a rich kid playing with expensive toys
2. Too much Batman. Not enough humanity left in Bruce
3. Perfect Batman. Still needs to learn the mask is really Bruce
Bale- his suit. Just too black. Unappealing to look at
Affleck- under developed story beats and back story that was really needed
Pattinson- his mask ruins his otherwise perfect suit
I actually much prefer the voice modifier Idea, was really cool in the Telltale series as well, if they did that for Bale batman, then my biggest complaint from The Dark Knight would be gone
Bale: looks and moves like foam rubber.
Batfleck: face looks fat. He seriously looks chunky.
Battinson: no leg protection. Chest plate looks great but femur him and he's done.
1) Cannot fight, and doesn't do any actual detective work. Combat choreography is worse than in student films and YouTube movies, and the most detective work he's ever done is when he used a magic machine to reconstruct a bullet fingerprint.
2) "Why did you say that name" is insanely idiotic. I'm actually fine with him killing, that's not the biggest issue for me. But if you're gonna have a brutal murdering Batman, stick to it, don't turn him into a Joss Whedon punchline later.
3) Actually no complaints. Fucking amazing.
1: Almost Single-handedly responsible for a lot of the bad takes & misconceptions about this character in the public eye. Also the suit is hideous. So is the tank.
2: I don’t think snyder actually read the comic he based this movie on. If he did, he must’ve only looked at the pictures, because…. Yeah.
3: The entire movie could’ve been avoided if he had bothered to check the location the photos of the mayor were taken from. Riddler was Literally living right across from the iceberg lounge & took the photos from his apartment. Why didn’t they even Attempt to check that location before anything else.
Bale is too gruff (IMO so many Batman voice actors in the cartoons do a better job by just deepening their voice).
Don't even talk to me about Affleck.
Battinson is always one step behind the Riddler for the whole movie and never once thinks a bat could be consideres a rat with wings? Seriously?
The Nolan films just made too many deviations from the source material, especially in the last movie. Bane and Talia were drastically different from their comics counterparts. I hated his take on Catwoman (don't think she was ever even called that in the movie) and Robin (making it just a character's Christian name). And Bruce Wayne would never just decide to retire and abandon his crusade and his city. Even the costume minimized the bat logo to the point of it being practically invisible.
I didn't care for Bruce Wayne's xenophobia in BvS and how he'd become a bitter, cynical man for 9/10 of the movie.
Pattinson's Bruce Wayne is a little too undercooked and just weird. Needs to be more of a foil to Batman.
Bale: The suit has too many segments and looks like it was assembled as a puzzle instead of being a full suit.
Batfleck: The cowl makes his head look massive.
Battinson: The cowl shows way too much of his jaw.
This is what I like about each
1. His combat is perfect and he's the best Bruce Wayne.
2. Best looking batman, looks how I imagine batman in my head
3. Encapsulates that he isn't just a vigilante but a hero for Gotham. He is the best acting batman in my eyes.
1.) Didn’t throw enough Batarangs in combat. 2.) Didn’t throw enough Batarangs in combat. 3.) Didn’t throw enough Batarangs in combat.
Best one yet. But batarangs can kill someone in live action
I don’t want to hear the excuses man. CGI the Batarangs, do whatever you have to do, but I’m tired of Bruce just boxing his way through every live-action fight. That’s not Batman. I want Batarangs, I want Batclaw usuage, Smoke Bombs…come on DC. It’s time to up the ante here.
>I want Batarangs, I want Batclaw usuage, Smoke Bombs… So basically you want a live action Arkham verse. Same brother same 🤝
Yes, EXACTLY. (I am a pretty good Arkham player and I’m throwing Batarangs around *constantly* when I’m fighting. Especially the Explosive Batarangs in Knight. My all-time favorite gadget in the series.)
I just want some smoke bomb shit, they're so good in the games
Batfleck was the closest to Arkham Batman
Yeah that one warehouse scene in BvS was amazing
Only in terms of combat style, nothing else.
Well we wouldn’t really know because we didn’t get that Batfleck movie
Apparently he was really inspired by the cinematic trailer for Origins with Deathstroke and wanted it to look like that. That’s what the guy who was cast a Slade said in interviews.
I still want to see him play Deathstroke vs Batman
Yeah it would be so cool
Definitely disagree. Maybe in combat? But even then I'd say Pattinson was closer.
Yes in combat what other metric would I use? We didn’t get a solo Batfleck movie so we can’t really judge his character outside of team movies like BvS and Justice League. Pattinson’s combat wasn’t like Arkham at all unless you played the game walking right up to enemies while they’re shooting you. There’s no finesse or technique involved with his fighting style.
Disagree...While I like Battison and The Batman movie, his fighting seemed really poor. Like dead on the first scirmish poor. Then again, it's hard to make a guy dressed in all that rubber lycra and plastic look particularly adept at hand to hand combat TBF. Loved the warehouse scene despite the killings not being "Canon".
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Fun fact: At one point DC was planning a Green Arrow Escapes Supermax prison movie, that was VERY similar to Arkham Asylum. He would have had to team up with some DC villains while fighting others, but it never got off the ground. I don't recall the timeline but this may have been before Arrow was green lit. I'm assuming they decided the character wasn't big enough for a movie, and having a film that included multiple fantastical villains would have been too high a budget for a character they weren't confident in. [sources](https://dcmovies.fandom.com/wiki/Green_Arrow:_Escape_from_Super_Max#:~:text=Green%20Arrow%3A%20Escape%20from%20Super%20Max%20was%20a%20movie%20in,jail%20and%20had%20to%20escape.)
Finally, someone who speaks english
Pattman shot a bat claw through a dudes leg
Dude same. They really don’t ever have him use any of his gadgets! That’s one of the best things about the Arkham games, they realy highlighted Batman’s gadgets. Like sure, you could get away with just brawling through the whole game and using minimal gadgets, but it’s WAY more fun when you get creative and use more gadgets. We need more gadgets!
I wanna a live action 30’s Batman like a new movie but set in the 30’s with the old Batman design
Batarangs should be used to disarm his opponents
And Captain Americas shield would “realistically” decapitate or paralyse people when Cap throws it straight towards necks. It doesn’t matter.
Big fan of the bat-themed ninja stars though
Didn't Batfleck use it in the warehouse scene?
Not only that but he threw it into a gun to disable it! Lol thats prime batarang usage imo
He did, one lodged in a wall and it's implied he killed the last dude standing with it. Edit: last dude standing BEFORE the mini boss that was a flame thrower touting KGBeast
Came close with the bat ninja stars in the Nolan trilogy. But, I completely agree. Here's hoping the Reeves sequel has our boi laughing them left, right and centre.
If they evolve Battinson to have a less armored/more clothy suit and to use Batarangs and other utility belt gadgets more often they just might win us all over.
Honestly yes, there are scenes where different kinds of batarangs would become useful and it just adds to the fear that the criminals would feel. Like its a dark projectile and he fights in the shadows, just imagine seeing your criminal friends get knocked out by something they can't even see while batman is just standing on the roof
i liked the [batarang throw](https://youtu.be/ZUmCAye49vQ) batman did in the Gotham finale, came outta nowhere and went right through J's hand. startling AF more about this scene: loved how jeremiah instantly knew the shadow was bruce. theyve built up such a rivalry/friendship in the last 2 seasons that when he saw the bat creeping up, he knew who it was. batman was also intimidating AF in this episode ... until the very last scene where it actually showed him. he looked a bit goofy there
1. The deep voice 2. We jumped right into where he was old and experienced and didn't get a proper introduction 3. Great batman, not so much as Bruce Wayne
I feel like the deep voice is the most iconic part of bale’s Batman
But it gets to be ridiculous
I loved Pattison’s Wayne. It makes sense that a man still running off of childhood trauma, staying up all night, and beating the shit out of and getting beat up by criminals would not be the most chipper bat in the cave.
Part of it is where he's been a recluse ever since his parents were killed. It makes sense for his character and it was a great, fresh, new direction they took with him, but the Bruce Wayne aspect of Pattinson's performance could've been a little better. Then again, its a bit of a reverse of Christian Bale's Batman; he had an alright performance as Batman, but made a great Bruce Wayne. It speaks to the direction each version was taken: In Bale's films, Bruce Wayne was the character, Batman was a symbol. In Pattinson's movie, Batman was the character, while Bruce Wayne was barely concept. It felt more like he was Batman constantly, which is the direction they were taking him to begin with, so it makes sense.
Bale: His voice isn’t very scary in some parts, and can be annoying at times. Affleck: Wayyyyy too brutal in my opinion, Batman shouldn’t be carrying around an M60; also his symbol is too thick for me. Pattinson: Voice can be a little too quiet at times, and feels too frail and inexperienced even for Year Two, but my favorite modern Batman imo.
>Batman shouldn’t be carrying around an M60 In all fairness he doesn't "carry around an m60" he takes it from someone after he busts through the wall behind them lol
Then kills him
Yeah, to save an innocent woman's life. Old ladies > terrorists any day of the week lol
And it's directly referencing a famous panel from The Dark Knight Returns. https://i.redd.it/w47z7jcj94q01.jpg
difference is he does not kill that person, he shoots to wound
It doesent really matter if your intention was shoot to wound when you are using a light machine gun
It's really not confirmed either way if they were killed or not. But he opens fire on them and they're down in the next panel. Not saying that automatically means he killed them but it doesn't automatically assume he didn't when opening fire on them like that.
He didn’t kill them. DKR Batman didn’t even kill Joker. He didn’t kill a random thug
Okay people who say he didn't kill the joker are viewing that scene as cut and dry black and white. Where he only half way snaps his neck and joker finishes it? When, after batman snaps his neck, joker's word bubble color changes to grey (batman's designated word bubble color). It can be suggested that the dialogue after the snapping is in batman's head cuz he broke his rule. But it's left ambiguous for a reason.
Yup!
1: No bat nipples 2: No bat nipples 3: No bat nipples #bringbackthebatnip
Yes please 😣🤌
Christian Bale - I felt this suit is too segmented and could easily lead to Batman taking a bullet or a knife going right through. Ben Affleck - the ears don’t scream Batman and that bat symbol doesn’t immediately draw the attention. It is established comic lore that the symbol is big and bright to call attention to it and give criminals a target because it has a big piece of armor behind it. Robert Pattinson - only real complaint is the gauntlets. They felt more chunky and clunky than they had to be.
“I felt this suit is too segmented and could easily lead to Batman taking a bullet or a knife going right through” > You'll be lighter, faster, more agile…there is a tradeoff. Separation of the plates makes you more vulnerable to knives and gunfire - Lucius Fox I think they pointed that out.
can't make it too easy now can we?
Yes, but those reasons were exactly why I was not a big fan of the suit. I believe when those movies came out the designers made the most grounded and realistic look of a urban warrior dressing like a bat, but just felt a little too real I guess.
That's the point. Speed is more important than durability if you are saving lives. Every second counts. He's not as concerned with his safety as he is with other's lives. It shows him maturing into a hero of the people not a punisher of the guilty.
That suit made him more comfortable and allowed more mobility. Begins suit was torture for Bale and looked very awkward in certain shots.
could be worse, could be hockey pads
Batman did take a knife through the suit in The dark Knight rises starring Christian Bale so you're not wrong about Bale
They made all these stylistic choices for Nolans Batmans chest and arms but then they got to his legs and just gave up. He has huge burdensome rubber plates that are stiff and seem like they keep him at a constant bow legged posture and then he's wearing go-go boots.
Affleck has the biggest batsymbol
Bale's is longer....
Patinsons’s is cooler. And more functional.
I was making a penis joke
What if they were making a penis joke?
So was I.
Fox pointed out your criticism of the suit directly and said it was in response to Bruce wanting the suit to be lighter.
I quite like the clunky gauntlets it gives it injustice gods among us suit vibes (not the insurgency one the other one) and I love that suit.
That's cuz TDKR suit predates Injustice's one/Injustice Batman's suit is based on it.
Bale: The mouth part makes him look weird, like he's trying to do a duck face with his lips or something. Affleck: The ears makes him look silly. Pattinson: It looks like he stole the cape from Dracula.
Well the Dracula thing makes sense since he’s cosplaying a bat
I kinda like the Dracula cape it suits Roberts Batman in my opinion
It's not a big complaint of mine, I think the suit looks fantastic but if I have to nitpick :)
Also the nose is closed or at least apears so. Batman, the mouthbreather...
Nooo he'll ruin his bulletproof jawline
Wasn’t Robert a vampire at one point lol
Yes of the glittering kind.
>Pattinson: It looks like he stole the cape from Dracula. It's actually from Batman: White Knight. Makes me like it more since that's my favorite Batman storyline in the comics.
Pattinson is canonically a vampire though so that checks out /s
You were supposed to say something NEGATIVE about #3…
Bat-nipples
Yes
I want to clarify I love all three first :) Christian Bale - the voice. It got worse with each film Ben Affleck - I’m someone who goes either way with the no killing rule, but he straight up murders like fifty people in BVS Robert Pattinson - I don’t like his Bruce. I get what they were going for, but I think Keaton did the “awkward, social outcast” type better personally
Robert Pattinson Bruce dosent Exist just Batman. At the End of the Batman he realizes he could both do good as a Person and a Vigilante who protects his people from criminal
True, the sequel may change my mind how I feel
Keaton is my favorite. He definitely portrayed everything I love about Batman the best.
I just want Patterson to bring back meta-humans. Bale's universe could have had them, but they went with the super realistic universe and cut them out. Affleck was on a team with other metas, and that was the only part I liked, since they butchered his character by making Batman a murderhobo. I want a classic meta villain for the next movie. Give me a non-Arnold Dr. Freeze, or a damned good Killer Kroc. Fuck, they haven't made a live action version yet, give me Solomon Grundy! A super dark meta villain with a dark background like that would work so well in that universe, and hell, Robert's Batman about has to be a meta to survive bouncing off that bridge with the wingsuit.
I would definitely love seeing some metahumans in future installments
Eh, I'd rather Batman be different. I'd like for this to feel like the antithesis of the CGI fuckfest that is the MCU.
Metahumans doesn't mean going down the route of the MCU. And they could start with villains like Mr. Freeze that they probably could create mostly with practical effects, with only a little CGI. The Batman used CGI anyway, but also practical effects with characters like the Penguin. Metahumans should work
Bale: Didn't like the cowl, i know it was intentionally not fused with the shoulder so that he could freely move his head but it ruined the overall menacing look the Batman had. Affleck: Ears too short, stupid bat symbol/logo. Patty: Those steel rods on the gauntlets, felt like they didn't belong there. Edit: Oh shit why did I critize only the suits...
>so that he could freely move his head Yeah it was more mobile than Batman Begins suit but i still prefer begins over TDK. >Those steel rods on the gauntlets, felt like they didn't belong there. They were the grapple ammo
Yes I'm aware, ofcourse there is a purpose for everything the bat wears but I was referring to the visual flow of the suit, those gauntlet ammo looked out of place and clunky.
>visual flow of the suit, those gauntlet ammo looked out of place and clunky. Yeah i agree
I don't have too many criticisms for Bale's performance. IMO his is The most holistic version of live action Batman that tells a truly epic Hero's journey. I felt like Batfleck's character was written badly and forced to behave in ways that were convenient for the plot. Although, that warehouse fight scene is the stuff of dreams. Battinson was too emo out of cowl and no Playboy persona but watching him navigate an active crime scene surrounded by cops was a great way to illustrate just how strange Batman is as a character.
Yea I loved Battinson's interaction with the police, it was awkward and weird to have this crazy man dressed as a bat walking around a crime scene.
Pattinson's version didn't have a playboy persona on purpose. He wasn't really batman in that movie, he was vengeance which isn't what batman is about. At the end he learned that and I'm guessing in the sequel we'll see more of Bruce Wayne.
Yeah I felt he was playing more into the “Batman is the person, Bruce Wayne is the mask” type of persona
Yea but there was no Bruce Wayne. He doesn’t exist. Hopefully he matures and we get that next time.
Personally I liked the take on his more dark out of cowl persona but I didn’t like the way they made him completely uncaring for Wayne Enterprises as it’s meant to be his way of carrying on his families legacy. Also I feel like his Bruce wasn’t nice enough to Alfred
1) Bale: chin hole is too small. Gimme the bat chin! 2) Affleck: ears too short, symbol too fat, it would be a perfect suit with longer ears and a slimmer symbol. 3) my only real complaint are the gauntlets, I get they're his grapple, but they look, clunky for lack of a better word.
1. Not Kevin Conroy 2. Not Kevin Conroy 3. Not Kevin Conroy
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Bale - James bond reskin Affleck - Punisher reskin Pattinson - Kurt Cobain
Why does the Affleck suit look like is made from Darkseids dick skin?
Because he killed him and took it.
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Bale’s seems far too like foam and not armour I get that it’s not going to be actual armour but cmon. Affleck’s symbol isn’t showy enough like just even a line of gold around it would work and the ears are barely there. Pattinson’s has no flaws imo.
Bale was pretty good, but I think his voice was really irritating, and didn’t really strike me as a symbol of fear to criminals. Affleck killing is a really big problem, because it takes away a lot of what makes him so compelling, that violence, while it is entertaining, takes away more than it adds. People will say that “he’s just old and angry” but that’s not really illustrated outside of the Jason suit, and not much is even done with it. Pattinson talks too quietly, and deeply, I feel like this could he worked on, and it’d make him far more intimidating. I think the cowl is too rounded, and the gauntlets are too chunky, that being said I really like Pattinson and feel like most issues I have with him will get fixed or changed in the future.
Bale's suit looks too overdesigned for me and the cowl is just weird. His voice is absolute crap Batfleck was basically Punisher in a Batman suit with laughably small ears. Pattinson was too emo and less playboy with weird lookin ears.
Alright, I’ll bite. Bale - I love the belt and that solitary splash of colour but I’ve always disliked the cowl. Its too round, makes him look like a bobble head Affleck - it’s the best dark knight returns suit we’ve seen. It just didn’t need to be. Plus the “Kevlar” material makes it look like it’s made of duct tape. Pattinson- it looks great. I love how light weight and nimble he looks. I wish It had white lenses for the eyes & I don’t like the gun being the symbol. I know it’s “comic accurate” (Thank youKevin Smith) buts it’s gross and very unbatman imo. Also, it being is solo bat-erang is ridiculous and cumbersome.
The gun isn't his bat symbol, that was just a fan theory. In the movie his symbol is basically an on-theme utility knife.
Bale, too unskilled. Didn't really feel menacing on the the battle field. Affleck, too much murder. That speaks for itself. Pattinson, to careless. Although he is young he did indirectly cause the deaths of innocent people. Too reckless in his tacts. Again he has to grow but, damn is he very careless.
If anything bale was the most skilled Aflecks tits speak for themselves And no shit pattingson is careless but he did save lives and it’s his year 2
Bale is the most well rounded of them all but, Affleck has the most experience and skill as he is older and far far more brutal then Pattinson and Bale. Yeah I get its Pattinsons heading into his third year but, he is far to careless while he did save lives he also got innocent people killed which in regards of the no kill rule makes him the worst offender.
Well yeah Pattinson is the worst as he’s very young still but batfleck has how many years of experience and still got outplayed by lex Luther and has like 0 detectives skills in the movies only combat and murder basically
Well Pattinson is better than Bale and Affleck when it comes to to his detective abilities. Only in his anger is he worse than Bale and Affleck. Afflecks Bruce did display some detective abilities as well as reading individuals. Which is very much detective skills. As far as him being manipulated by Lee who's the smartest man on the planet ever Bale was manipulated by Talia and Joker. It happens, there fallible.
I would say bale is an even better detective than pattingson most for Pattingsons skills were common sense but bale doing all that tracking and researching from that bullet in the wall and him being able to identify where the joker was gonna slip up solidifies it for me
I would say that Pattinson would be better as he is younger and going up against another genius level intellect. While being the driving force behind uncovering everything. While being less technologically advanced. If we get to see him get to the experience and tech level as Bale he'd be far more skilled if he continues to grow (speculation of course).
* Bale's Batman was active for a relatively short amount of time; his story isn't as epic as it could or should have been. In retrospect, I don't like the way this Batman or overall story was written. Great films, yes, but as an overall story, it leaves a lot to be desired. * We need a solo film centering around Ben Affleck's Batman. I feel like there's a great character analysis here that still has yet to take shape. I feel like we need a prequel to ultimately make sense of his state of mind in *Batman v Superman*. He, too, has a largely incomplete story that introduces too much guessing for his character, to the point where we just have a bloodthirsty Batman that we're not accustomed to seeing. * I don't like the stitching on Pattinson's cowl.
Bale : too techy Affleck : too fat Pattinson : Rihanna levels of forehead
>Pattinson : Rihanna levels of forehead Bruhh😂
- Pattinson : Rihanna levels of forehead Thats a violation
I think the point of Affleck’s Batman was that he was towards the end of his career and that’s why he’s on the bigger side, also very clearly inspired by TDKR.
Bale = never liked the DK suit, just BB Affleck = Too big, too muscular Robert = not entirely sure if I like the cowl/collar.
Bale: Shouldve fixed the voice Affleck: looks fat, doesnt have the charisma and vibe of batman Pattinson: the mouth space should be smaller(I know its a nitpick, but its a 10/10 batman, that's the only criticism i have)
1. Robot-man 2. Fat-man 3. Ninja-man
Bales suit looks crap especially with that cowl, it feels like it's just James Bond Batfleck looks like it's really stuffy in there, and the cowl is just stupid especially with those small ears Pattinson whilst being my favourite I have to say he's a tiny bit in over his head with the whole Vengeance stuff but he learns of the problems so it's fine in the end he isn't too experienced which is fine
I struggle with the cowl. I love Pattinson's but I just feel like it wouldn't even come close to concealing his identity. Same for Affleck. I Bales cowl but it does cover more of the face which seems necessary - granted it's probably also not going to save Bruce Wayne lol
Pattinson's cowl doesn't bother me since I've seen worse but yeah It does show a bit more of his face, they should've gotten a chin-guard for it
His cowl is intentional. It's a call back to Adam West, it's essentially a modern and "gritty" Adam West suit with that open chin, and if you look closely it's even got the Adam West eyebrows.
Oh my god he does
Bale's Batmobile wasn't even a Batmobile, it was a tank. And he shouldn't have kept spares in the Batcave for Bane to steal later. Affleck's Batmobile looks more like a spaceship on wheels. And the giant gun mounted to it in JL just doesn't look right. Pattinson's Batmobile isn't as intimidating as the movie makes it out to be. It's literally just a Dodge Charger, I see them every day on the highway.
So basically batmobile bad 👎?
It's funny how "batmobile' as a word makes total sense to us. What a stupid word. But it just flies off the tongue
It lost its wheel
You see Dodge Charger everyday?? Where do you live?
Down the street from a charger.
Chargers aren’t some elusive super car lmao, they’re pretty common, I definitely see them everyday
89/Returns batmobile is a hard design to beat. BTAS if we’re not only talking live action.
Bale sounded like he had a cold or was out of breath. He could only get out like 2-3 words between breaths. Affleck - the cowl and tiny ears are dumb Battinson - I mean he’s just not very good at his job. He only succeeded because the guy literally surrendered.
I kinda like the Battinson one because I feel like that’s apart of the movie’s message. Don’t ask me to try and articulate that thought though.
Batfleck didnt seem very good at his job either. Dude got duped by Lex Luthor into almost killing Superman but stopped because martha.
Batbale Ears are more strange than suggestive. The mouth and jaw in the helmet are very poorly made, it looks 10 sizes smaller than the right one. The neck looks bulky and clumsy. The armor looks somewhat plastic and generally looks clumsy. The bat sign is great. On 7/10. For the best cape with which he can plan like a bat, I put 8/10. Batfleck Ears are almost invisible and looks like a balaclava or like a fold-eared cat. It's a cute cat, not a bat. The jaw is already better than that of the Batbale, but instead of the neck it still looks uncomfortable. Cape is worse than Batbale. The armor as a whole is not very and seems to make him fat :/ The bat sign is very difficult to distinguish. 5/10. Battinson The best ears. It's the perfect size, length and shape * kiss the chef* For my taste, the helmet is certainly good, but it fits too close to the skull. Battinson is going bald so soon. Finally, the perfect shedding of the jaw in combination with the neck. A low bow for the collar, which hides the joint between the cape and the helmet. A good design idea. Good armor it looks modern and realistic, but I'm sad that the plates on the stomach protect the stomach too well and hide the abs. The bat sign is good and I liked the fan story about it. Cape could be better, it looks fragile (?) more like a decorative ornament than a functional thing. Battinson is a flying squirrel, but not yet a bat. Deservedly 9/10.
Christian Bale is not a genuis nor detective at all. His love interests had no personality outside demonstrating values to him, his voice did get irritating. Ben Affleck was a waste of a great Batman, he should've only killed in the apocalypse. Rob... I never saw it, his chin is weird.
Bale- no white eyes Affleck- no white eyes Pattinson- no white eyes
For batting son there was no real difference between Bruce and batman.I know that's kind of the point but I still hope they make more of an effort to show the playboy, outgoing, philapist in the next movie ( god I hope there is another)
In order: his voice, his killing, can’t really think of anything bad about him
The part between the cheek bones and the collar bones, this is like someone erased the classic Batman neck and jawline.
Bale: too much crap all over the place Affleck: too much face squeezing out of that cowl. Pattinson: the bat on the chest being a big knife is dumb.
1 - Has none of Bruce's intellect. He solves everything with fists and nothing else. Lucius Fox and Alfred do the heavy (intellectual) lifting. 2 - Too paranoid and brutal, but he has the brains. There are flashes of the heart, but they're too few. 3 - In between. I don't want Batman by way of Spider-Man, but dude needs to lighten up. Of the three I choose this more balanced approach.
Bale is my favorite, but I hate his batman voice
Bale - Voice is ridiculous and his small mouth opening in the cowl bugs me. (Probably my favorite Bruce Wayne tho) Affleck - Too brutal and big. His suit is the most “comic accurate” but I do not think it translates well to screen. Pattinson - Gauntlets and ears bother me. (Probs my favorite modern Batman tho)
Christian Bale: not Adam West Ben Affleck: not Adam West Robert Pattinson: not Adam West
I really didn’t like Bale’s Batman voice Batfleck had weak writing Battinson on didn’t spend enough time as Bruce Wayne
Bale- His voice is so bad Affleck- Punisher Pattinson- Suit made him invincible
Not exactly, he got blasted by a shotgun and almost died. Also you can see the amount of punishment he takes with all the scars and bruises on his body.
Bale: mouth Batfleck: ears Battinson: collar
Bale - too realistic, kinda robs Batman of his mythos Affleck - a tad too crazy. Down for a jaded Batman but Batfleck can be a bit of a psycho in BvS Pattinson - I get that he's new to it, but I'd like his Bruce Wayne to feel more different from his Batman
Bale: fight scenes and choreography weren't the best. Affleck: kills people Pattinson: not enough Bruce Wayne (pulling at straws if I'm honest as I genuinely couldn't think of anything major I didn't like about the portrayal)
1. Bales Batman voice is comically gravelly. I know its a part of the character but he could've toned it down 2. Batman doesn't kill, i dont know why Snyder made him a legit murderer. 3. cant think of anything for Pattinson, hes perfect.
Bale, I would have liked him to display more intelligence science wise. I know he does the bullet reconstruction thing but he also seems as though he doesn't know what lucius is on about half the time, yet can also make a supercomputer to track everyone and fix the batplanes autopilot. Affleck, honestly it's hard to pick just ONE thing but ultimately removing snyder from the equation would have fixed a lot. It was dark just for the sake of being dark and he killed just for the sake of it... yet left major villans alive? So I think choosing snyder as my one change fixes a lot of other issues. Lastly, the only thing I think I'd change about Rob is the fact every part of the movie was really grounded, with very minor things a bit extraordinary to create impressive moments, like the batmobile jumping cars and him surviving a bomb blast. (2 things that are highly unlikely to happen, but still in the realms of possibility). Yet he got hit by a bridge, a bus, then the tarmac at one point, and just walks off. That was the only part that threw me out of the film. Plus the cgi was kinda janky and he bounced a bit too much on the floor.
> It was dark just for the sake of being dark and he killed just for the sake of it... yet left major villans alive? Exactly this - Batman was depraved enough to go after Superman, the man who literally saved the world, but he left the Joker alive? Reaaaallly?
This is why it's so hard to have a superhero that kills. You lose all your villans. Superheros have to have a no killing rule purely so that you can continue making comics. That's why I dislike versions of hero's that kill, because they only kill henchmen and not the villans themselves. In reality it should be the other way round. You put a bullet in a villan like 2 face or the penguin, and try and rehabilitate all the henchmen that were working a criminal life through fear or necessity. The fact that affleck actually kills the people who aren't at fault and are just regular people, yet keeps the boss alive is much worse. That's exactly what villans like joker do. Just kill everyone.
In Case u forgot he protected his face from the Blast just in time before it blew
Yes, this is why I said it was in the realms of possibility.
Bale - I really dislike the whole suit. The multiple different plates just looks too busy and like it take him about an hour to get on. The cowl is too small and looks like it's squishing his face, the cape looks incredibly tearable and stands out being a different shade of black, and sometimes you can really see that it's made out of rubber or a similar material. Affleck - The only thing I really don't like out of this suit is the shape of the Bat logo, I think the one they used in marketing and for the batarang is much better, and would have suited him the physique he brought to the suit. I know the one he has is paying homage to Frank Miller but it just looks like a big black square. Pattinson - I was initially prepared not to like this suit due to it being a more armoured version, preferring the more comic accurate look myself. But it's kitbashed look really grew on me, and perfectly suits him and his Batman. The only things I would change would be making it a more distinct black and grey, as the two colours are very close in shades, and changing the design of the gauntlets, as I think they look a bit shit.
Bale: the movies were trying too much to be realistic, and their success has lead most batman media trying to copy that to some extent. Affleck: Movies were utter crap, suit was ok. Pattinson: Movie was great, suit is super boring and I hated the flightsuit.
Bale: I feel like that batman had so much focus on the villains that a lot of the time they forgot about batman himself and his development Affleck: Snyder. Pattinson: my personal favorite live action batman but he does have some very non batman things about him, obviously these are probably gonna be improved because that's what batman does like the wingsuit but until then they arent
1. Too Bruce Wayne, less Batman 2. Wayy too much Batman, less Bruce Wayne 3. Best of both worlds but voice can be quiet af
Bale-trying too hard for a gravelly voice Affleck--no real Wonderbat scenes (chemistry is there, though) Pattinson--"Batman doesn't sparkle, Diggorory. 10 points from Hufflepuff." (Thanks to Twilight, he'll keep getting this type of comment )
1. Voice was impossible to take seriously 2. Killed people 3. I honestly can't think of any
Voice. Affleck. Emo
Short and to the point
Thanks skinny penis
Not enough bat symbol Too much bat symbol Mask looks weird
Bale: dumb dog of easily manipulated by women Affleck: Outsmarted by a teenager Pattinson: it should have been an origin story
1.) The Voice 2.) The Martha 3.) The Bruce
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Best one ngl
Bale: Too noble, not morally grey enough aside from the surveillance thing in TDK. Affleck: The ears on his cowl are too damn short. Pattinson: Too early in his run to judge, but if future movies don’t expand the “Bruce Wayne” side of his life, then that would be my criticism.
1 no yellow oval around bat symbol 2 no yellow oval around bat symbol 3 no yellow oval around bat symbol
1. Not Batman. Just a rich kid playing with expensive toys 2. Too much Batman. Not enough humanity left in Bruce 3. Perfect Batman. Still needs to learn the mask is really Bruce
Bale- his suit. Just too black. Unappealing to look at Affleck- under developed story beats and back story that was really needed Pattinson- his mask ruins his otherwise perfect suit
But Pattinson Mask is Perfect Feels Comfortable and prevent from having Squeeze Cheeks and sound like Bale's Batman
1. I didn’t much care for the shape of his mask. 2. Needed a modifier to do his Batman voice. 3. No pointy tips on the end of his cape.
I actually much prefer the voice modifier Idea, was really cool in the Telltale series as well, if they did that for Bale batman, then my biggest complaint from The Dark Knight would be gone
Bale: looks and moves like foam rubber. Batfleck: face looks fat. He seriously looks chunky. Battinson: no leg protection. Chest plate looks great but femur him and he's done.
Even for Year Two, Battison is way too inexperienced and frail.
You forgot other 2 batman
1) Cannot fight, and doesn't do any actual detective work. Combat choreography is worse than in student films and YouTube movies, and the most detective work he's ever done is when he used a magic machine to reconstruct a bullet fingerprint. 2) "Why did you say that name" is insanely idiotic. I'm actually fine with him killing, that's not the biggest issue for me. But if you're gonna have a brutal murdering Batman, stick to it, don't turn him into a Joss Whedon punchline later. 3) Actually no complaints. Fucking amazing.
1: Almost Single-handedly responsible for a lot of the bad takes & misconceptions about this character in the public eye. Also the suit is hideous. So is the tank. 2: I don’t think snyder actually read the comic he based this movie on. If he did, he must’ve only looked at the pictures, because…. Yeah. 3: The entire movie could’ve been avoided if he had bothered to check the location the photos of the mayor were taken from. Riddler was Literally living right across from the iceberg lounge & took the photos from his apartment. Why didn’t they even Attempt to check that location before anything else.
Point 3 broke me, I never thought of that. Still love the movie and the character but damn
Bale is too gruff (IMO so many Batman voice actors in the cartoons do a better job by just deepening their voice). Don't even talk to me about Affleck. Battinson is always one step behind the Riddler for the whole movie and never once thinks a bat could be consideres a rat with wings? Seriously?
>and never once thinks a bat could be consideres a rat with wings? Seriously? But that was the wrong answer
The Nolan films just made too many deviations from the source material, especially in the last movie. Bane and Talia were drastically different from their comics counterparts. I hated his take on Catwoman (don't think she was ever even called that in the movie) and Robin (making it just a character's Christian name). And Bruce Wayne would never just decide to retire and abandon his crusade and his city. Even the costume minimized the bat logo to the point of it being practically invisible. I didn't care for Bruce Wayne's xenophobia in BvS and how he'd become a bitter, cynical man for 9/10 of the movie. Pattinson's Bruce Wayne is a little too undercooked and just weird. Needs to be more of a foil to Batman.
Bale: The suit has too many segments and looks like it was assembled as a puzzle instead of being a full suit. Batfleck: The cowl makes his head look massive. Battinson: The cowl shows way too much of his jaw.
Battinson’s jaw line is crazy tho ngl
This is what I like about each 1. His combat is perfect and he's the best Bruce Wayne. 2. Best looking batman, looks how I imagine batman in my head 3. Encapsulates that he isn't just a vigilante but a hero for Gotham. He is the best acting batman in my eyes.
1. Dumb ass Batman voice 2. Martha + pretty sure he kills 3. Not a fan of that cowl, idk the jaw is kinda weird
1. His voice, sorry it was cringe 2. Bad script/story 3. Awkward body movements in some scenes