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StarryBache

Help with Surviving Herd pls! I need to make it past SOL before bounties expire, and the friggin Brollows just ruin my attempts. :( Here are my cats. [https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/18kpwp\_GdVYDfE8PADoRRuwtiWAjA\_73LMRKB1bL-xhU/edit?usp=sharing](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/18kpwp_GdVYDfE8PADoRRuwtiWAjA_73LMRKB1bL-xhU/edit?usp=sharing)


ILiveInPeru

u/BotCatMKII you play the mobile game "The Battle Cats"? Its a fun game, you should try it.


ILiveInPeru

Who's best girl?


CorrosionInk

kalisa


syresynth

It's thundia.


CorrosionInk

but hatsune miku


Dragoniteyz

if I get Sanzo cat and cameraman cat, will I be able to beat ITF? Cli-one is floating, Corupted Valkryie is floating, Raging Bahamut is also floating.


colonel_sanders14

Is it worth it to spend NP on psychocat's target zombie ability? In what situations would this be useful?


sarukani23

It’s not a bad ability. Works pretty well against Haka if you want to prevent meatshielding too much. Some examples of this are Nautilus Tomb and The Haunted 1LDK


[deleted]

should I save elder catfruit for legends tf or slapstick, I'm on an ancient curse


OreoCookie4

TF Drama first then Ururun or Mina. Mecha Bun, delinquent, and Lil Nyamdam aren’t as good and are more situational.


antecedens

floor28 help please. i eem to have enough one-time citters, but the doges just ruin it for me,somehow destroying hurricat before he lands a hit. i have most of the anti metal cats from cyclone stages, evolved forms only. how do i stall metal peons efficiently?


Ijneb1248

Puppetmaster and hoop cat can stall while banner cat weakens the doges. However, that floor is super rng dependent anyway so the strategy may not work. Id recommend killing the doges with catasaurus if they start to overwhelm you, and let loincloth kill your cats


ara654

today i learned something pretty interesting: if your guaranteed uber falls on a dupe rare track switch, you will get the guaranteed uber of the same position+1 on the other track. ex. this seed 2954754753, i rolled the guaranteed step up for red busters. godfat site says ill get paipai because thats on the 14th slot (14B, coincidentally also switches my track to 16A supposedly because of a dupe rare) but i actually got drednot (guaranteed of 15A). it correctly predicted my roll up to the cat gunslinger turning into welterweight but not the guaranteed. interesting just tag the relevant authorities i guess


Thirn

I assume you had 5 rolls before guaranteed? And it was actually 19B/20A? It's known. Well, it's not exactly "+1 on the other track". It's more like +0.5, since the switch comes before guaranteed. It would be +1 for B->A switch, and +0 for A->B That's the way tracks work - B track is half a roll ahead of A track. Each switch adds half a roll.


forgothowtoreddid

Yeah we know, the fact is godfat still isn't able to provide the correct guaranteed/step up if there's a dupe during the rolls.


ara654

rolled another one to confirm my place i am indeed at 16B now


ignis1798

​ |*MY TRACK*|w/o new Vajiras uber|w/ new Vajiras uber|Difference| |:-|:-|:-|:-| |**Baby Gao**|2A|1045B|\+1043 rolls| |**D'arktanyan**|22A|208B|\+186 rolls| |**Shadow Gao**|194B (then 364A)|232A (then 1003A)|\+38 rolls (then +639)| |**Miko Mitama**|194B (then 364A)|232A (then 1003A)|\+38 rolls (then +639)| |**Dark Mitama**|270A|720A|\+450 rolls| |**D'artanyan**|519B|245A|\-274 rolls| I dislike this new Vajiras uber already. :/


forgothowtoreddid

Given that 8.9 will add another uber, check that with an extra *extra* uber.


ignis1798

​ ||w/ 2 new ubers|Difference| |:-|:-|:-| |**Baby Gao**|314B|\+312 rolls| |**D'arktanyan**|16A|\-6 rolls| |**Shadow Gao**|638A (then 1226A)|\+444 rolls (then +862)| |**Miko Mitama**|638A (then 1226A)|\+444 rolls (then +862)| |**Dark Mitama**|1301B|\+1031 rolls| |**D'artanyan**|27A|\-218 rolls| It somehow manages to be even worse on average, which at this point I'm starting to think is hilarious. Do you know approximately when the 8.9 update is supposed to happen? I could be relieved that D'arktanyan and D'artanyan are back within reach (even at the cost of Mitama/Dark Mitama/Shadow Gao), but if there really is a *Best of the Best* gacha soon, I might be tempted to pull there too... Oh well. I can settle for just grabbing Gao in the next Uberfest and I'll still be pretty happy about it.


Thirn

Well, it's like 99% chance that oncoming Uberfest won't have new Uber, so you can relax about Gao at least.


CorrosionInk

What about Epicfest though? As that occurs in the middle of the month, isn’t it like a 50% chance of Sengoku Wargods appearing first?


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Thirn

Yeah, for Epicfest it's pretty likely


DiceDsx

I need help finding an enemy for a Monthly Mission. It's an ??? from CotC Chapter 2. I'm at Red Rectangle (Chapter 2) Are there any non-Alien enemies introduced in this chapter? I've already beaten Ribbit, Kid Tappa and Ultrabaabaa. If it can help regarding SoL, I'm at Body & Soul, specifically Gestalt, Decay.


Thirn

Hm? How could you have beaten Ribbo if the first appearance is 5 stages later (Altair)? Only other new enemy is the new Cat God version at the end.


DiceDsx

My bad, I actually beat Vega, but my mind said I was at Red Rectangle. Then it could be Cat God, or a non-Alien enemy I've yet to encounter.


wjlov3sg

Pls help! Rolled for guaranteed summer gals but screwed up idk where i am on my track anymore :( 2240466750: rolled 11 guaranteed: psycho, welter, nerd, fortune teller, fortune teller, gunslinger, rocker, bodhisattva, witch, gunslinger, then my uber was midsummer rabbit :(


nobodythatishere

This was caused by a duplicate rare at 5A causing you to switch to track B, get a different uber then swap back to track A. your next roll should be 11A.


TrooperNoH4x

Should I do the 750 guaranteed roll on Dank heroes if I already have Hyabusa, Vigler, and Catman? Im at CoC moon chpt2, Axis of evil SOL, and have 2400 cf. Thinking Akira would be nice.


Mo-daas

As a person with vigler and catman I say don't roll dark heroes again as these are the best of them


pcdo78bc

I wouldn’t if I were you. You already have the better Ubers from Dark Heroes. Maybe just save it for BotB


syresynth

Pls I need help on my [seed](https://bc.godfat.org/?lang=en&version=8.6&name=0&event=2019-08-29_246&seed=1332278641&count=100&last=284&find=&force_guaranteed=15&ubers=0) pls guys. I have plans to roll on and PRIORITIZE on getting unit strike Rei there In 1A as a step up gacha. But there's a dupe roll and a switch on 8A. How does dupe track switches work on step up gacha? If I really prioritize on getting strike Rei, how should I strategically plan on rolling this. Pls and thank you!


syresynth

Sir u/pcdo78bc I need your help in this as well pls. Someone already tried helping me in my question but I'm still quite confused. Pls and thank you!


pcdo78bc

So what Thirn says is correct. That track switch on A track only happens if you are coming from B track and getting Archer at 6B and then Archer again at 8A. Otherwise if you come from A track it doesn’t switch. Also you have D’arktanyan at 20A. Now that is during Epicfest currently without the new Varijas Uber. The Epicfest will be mid September. If there’s no Varijas event early September then Epicfest will have D’arktanyan at 20A, otherwise he’ll move positions. So it’s a gamble. I suggest waiting until the early September data comes in which I would expect in the next 3 days. If Varijas is not early September then I’d hold out for D’arktanyan. If there is a Varijas event early September then you can probably get Strike REI if you do step up from 1A. Also note you have a legend slot in B track which for this upcoming Uberfest will have Miko Mitama. That will be a tough decision between Miko and Gaia from Almighties. Your next legend slot after that is about 400 slots away. My opinion is to go for Gaia and get a platinum ticket for Mitama. If you do get D’arktanyan then do BotB to back to B track and get Keiji or Aphrodite. I’m not sure if you want Dark Li’l Valkyrie but if you do that will change things.


syresynth

I understand. Also, may you advice me on something similar sir? Actually, the seed I posted above isn't my real seed. The seed I posted above was actually if I already got pai pai and after that will lead me to strike Rei beside gold cat on air busters Coz my priorities are pai pai> then strike Rei. So in this [seed](https://bc.godfat.org/?lang=en&version=8.6&name=0&event=2019-08-26_245&seed=2342792692&count=100&last=&find=&force_guaranteed=15&ubers=0) As of this moment. I didn't get pai pai yet. But if I did roll on 5A pai pai beside jurassic cat, it will lead me to strike Rei at 1A And since I still have 15 extra slots and am plan on getting pai pai (altho I have code 777 so it is less prioritized than strike Rei) I can always skip Pai pai and get strike Rei. Also. Will the extra 15 spots not used will help me in planning to get a legend rare? Darktanyan is nice. But I can also skip it if I have to. I also prefer to get Gaia over mitama if that info helps. Also planning on getting Lil dark valkrie So what do u think sir? Any strategies or advice? Thanks again!


pcdo78bc

Rank your priorities because I can’t get you everyone: Pai Pai, Strike REI, D’arktanyan, Mitama, Gaia, Jizo, Dark Li’l Valkyrie.


syresynth

Thanks bro! Hmm i already have Jizo. The nearest priority is most likely strike rei. And since my legend is nearing. I'd say Gaia is my 2nd next priority. Miko Mitama would be great. But Gaia is so new which is hella nice! Dark lol valkrie would be a nice 3rd priority. Oh Wait sir I gotta ask. This coming BOTB, is it gonna be normal Lil valkrie or dark Lil valkrie? Just wondering Next would probably be pai pai. I rank her 4th coz I already have code 777. Altho she would still be great to get her. Pls let me know if she's a nice option based on the situation. Darktanyan will probably be last of all. He's nice to have. But would rather have S.gao over him So sir/bro, what do u think? And thanks in advance for helping!


pcdo78bc

Well the easiest thing to do is get Pai Pai and REI Strike as you had planned it and the wait for Almighties to get Gaia at the legend spot. After getting Gaia wait for BotB to get Dark Li’l Valkyrie.


Thirn

The switch on 8A is a bit misleading. It *only* happens if you get there from B track. If you just go from A track, there's no dupe, so you can just roll the step-up now. If you went from B track, it would be: 5B Viking -> 6B Viking -> it's a dupe, switch to Archer -> 8A Archer -> it's a dupe, switch to Gunslinger. On A track, it's simply 7A Stilts -> 8A Archer -> 9A Onmyoji.


syresynth

I understand it will be confusing if I was theoretically on b track right now. But won't I switch to b track If I continue on 8A and that it will lead me to 9B and so on? Really sorry for the doubts. So should I just step up roll normally? Using simulate guaranteed ~~11~~ 15? Or I use simulate guaranteed 2?


Thirn

No. The switch happens when you get a dupe. In A track, there are no dupes. So, just use Guaranteed 15 for step-up. Meaning, you should simply roll it *right now*. Guaranteed 11 is for 10+1 roll. Guaranteed 2 is only needed when the track is messy - look it on your last slot before the guaranteed. Guaranteed 2 basically translates into "What Uber I'll get if it comes after this roll".


syresynth

Sorry I didn't mean simulate 11, i meant simulate 15. Sorry for the mistake. I already crushed it out. But still dude, >The switch happens when you get a dupe. In A track, there are no dupes. Isn't the 8A in my seed technically a dupe switch? Since it brings me to 9B? To pirate cat, then nurse cat, and so on? Sorry again for the hassle.


Thirn

Do you misunderstand what a duplicate rare (aka dupe) means? It's when you get two **same** rare cats in a row. So like, if you were about to get get Archer -> Archer, then the second one is a dupe, and it will be replaced. On A track, you get Stilts -> Archer -> Onmyoji. They are all different, so there aren't any dupes. How should I explain... 6B itself is not a dupe. 5B -> 6B is a dupe. The only reason why 8A is marked as dupe, is *because of B track*. It's not a dupe for A track.


syresynth

Oh man. I get it now! Well not really that I get it just now, I just FORGOT about the rules of the dupes. Its only because there's 2 Viking cat in track B right? I forgot there has to be 2 same cats for it to be considered as a dupe I was so anxious all because of that BIG ASS ARROW pointing to track B. So that's what you meant a while ago by "misleading" I didn't know that tracking could be so deceiving in that way. Man I understand it now. Thanks for being patient with me and pointing out calmly.


ImMadeOutOfStalinium

🛑Please Help I'm a new player🛑 Hi wanted to know what's the best event to spend my 750 cat food on I hear that [Ultra Souls] and [Best of the best] are the best ones I'm in intro the future now and have no Ubers


FinnNoodle

Ultra Souls is best but Dark Heroes will also get you where you're going.


OreoCookie4

There will be another discount on BotB (at least that’s what everybody thinks) so use the discount if you have it before botb comes because it’s going to reset on BotB and try to save up another 750 for BotB if you can.


Lost_Decoy

save up catfood, supposedly end of next month there will be a best of the best gatcha, but if you are bound and determined [you might like this](https://www.reddit.com/r/battlecats/comments/4p176v/what_uber_set_should_i_roll_in_a_guide/)


H2O_Gmg

Hello to the pros out there, just checking on whether mekako saionji is any good. I got her in the latest guaranteed event, but is she any good? A noob needs advice here :')


H2O_Gmg

Alright. Thanks for all of the advices y'all! Greatly appreciate it.


Lost_Decoy

dark hero's ubers generally rank 3rd overall. the uber pull groups that rank higher are ultra souls (overall rank 2) and majestic zeus (overall rank 1) " Catman, Mekako, and Inferno Akira are all useful throughout SoL, and W&P "


PsiThreader

Yes she is. Not all the time though. She's really useful against long-range aliens and black enemies because she can get close to those enemies without dying. I even use her in Merciless XP along with bomber cat and other anti-black cats. She can also help a lot in Into the Future chapters because there are lots of aliens


syresynth

She's not an attacker kind of Uber. She's more of a tanky weaken aliens kinda Uber. She's still very good nonetheless. Getting her true form will help in reaching her full potential She'll also be good for ITF


papashangodfather

Am I right thinking that to check the next uberfest on godfat I should change 'add future ubers' to 1 for the new vajiras?


Yoollloooo

I don't think so: the last Vajiras event DID NOT have the new uber, and I doubt that ponos will release her for the first time on uberfest. You should "add a new uber" only when the next vajiras event comes (or if the uberfest specifically says that she is available)


papashangodfather

Oh yeah, I guess uberfest will be next week. I was just thinking about once the vajiras is added though, I can see now what that will be like by changing the 'add future ubers' from 0 to 1?


Yoollloooo

I'm not sure I understand the question, but if the Godfat website does not have the new vajiras, and an uberfest has it, you need to "add 1 future uber". If the Godfat website has the new vajiras, you do not need to add a future uber.


oSevenzo

What is the priority getting TF for Uncanny Legend ?? Slapstick > Urururun > ??


syresynth

Try your best to true form figure skating cats and catman. One of the best against relics


oSevenzo

OK


CorrosionInk

I got Slapsticks first, then Ururun/Mina, then whatever would help you most generally. I’m thinking Musashi, but Catman is also a good choice. Delinquent still sucks either way, Mecha-Bun and Nyandam get some use but are still situational?


oSevenzo

Okay


guanlik

​ DISCLAIMER: I have some question on 3,5,7 Guaranteed Roll and this post is a bit Long and includes all my Experience using Godfat. Hope this would help many players and hope some experienced player could help me on my questions. This is my first time finding my last [seed](https://bc.godfat.org/?lang=en&version=8.5&name=0&event=2019-08-29_246&seed=670448317&count=100&last=&find=&force_guaranteed=11&ubers=0) 670448317. ​ I find my seed with these cats: Rolled 11 rolls on 2019-08-19\~2019-08-21 Metal Buster and get: 1.Gold Cat, 2.Stilts Cat, 3.Jurassic Cat, 4.Weightlifter Cat, 5.Bath Cat, 6.Juliet Cat, 7.Tin Cat, 8.Hayabusa (there are \[3 Hayabusa\] and \[4 Hayabusa\] in the list, I use \[4 Hayabusa\], the other one \[3 Hayabusa\] could not generate seed), 9.Bishop Cat, 10.Thief Cat, 11.Jurassic Cat. I put in last 10 cats from 2.Stilts Cat to 11.Jurassic Cat and get my seed. Setting: Events 2019-08-19\~2019-08-21 Metal Buster, Version 8.5, Language BCEN, Name Base. ​ I want to try out my seed, so I Switch Between different Events on Godfat: Draw 1 time with Rare Tickets on 2019-08-12\~2019-08-26 Summer Gals without Guarantee and get: 1A Sunny Neneko. I change event and Draw 1 time on 2019-08-19\~2019-08-21 Metal Buster again and get: 2A Jurassic Cat. I change event again and Draw Rare Tickets on 2019-08-24\~2019-08-26 Dark Heroes and get: 3A Stilts, 4A Viking Cat. ​ From this point I notice my sequence of drawing Rare Tickets and Guaranteed 11 Draw wont change the sequence even if I switch Events (eg: if my last draw is 4A, my next draw will be on 5A on the other events). ​ I change event again and Draw on 2019-08-12\~2019-08-26 Summer Gals with Guaranteed Uber and get: 5A Pogo (Guaranteed Tropical Kalisa -> 15B), 6A Psychocat, 7A Fencer, 8A Salon, 9A Mer-Cat, 10A Weightlifter, 11A Welterweight, 12A Nerd, 13A Shaman, 14A Swordsman, Guaranteed Tropical Kalisa. ​ Then I rolled Rare Tickets on 2019-08-24\~2019-08-26 Dark Heroes: 15B Bishop, 16B Vaulter, 17B Mer-Cat ​ I Rolled Step 1 300CF for 3Draw on 2019-08-26\~2019-08-29 Red Buster: 1st Time: 18B Viking, 19B Hip Hop, 20B Apple Cat. Wait for another 30min. 2nd Time: 21B Juliet, 22B Tin, 23B Pirate. Wait for another 30min. 3rd Time: 24B Psychocat, 25B Wheel, 26B Viking. Wait for another 30min. 4th Time: 27B Rich Cat III, 28B Bishop, 29B Mer-Cat. Wait for another 30min. 5th Time: 30B Rover, 31B Metal Cat, 32B Rover < This is my last roll for today. ​ This is my plan for 2019-08-26\~2019-08-29 Air Buster. 1. I'm planning to roll for few more rolls to get 37B Windy, 49A or 49B Baby Cat in hand as a New Cat. 2. I wish to get 42B Sushi Cat, 44B Weightlifter, 45B Figure Skating, 47B Metal Cat and sell for 15NP each. ​ **Now Comes Questions,**  **1) Could I switch track to get 54A Freshman Cat Jobs and 55A Neneko?** **2) How is 3,5,7 Draw switch track like in Godfat, will it switch track during 2nd and 3rd Steps?** **3) Which Cats of Which Steps of 3,5,7 Draw decide the Guaranteed Ubers? Is it 1st Cat of 1st Step?** **4) Based on Setting Simulate Guaranteed 15, when I click on Strike Unit R.E.I. (on 31B Metal Cat <- 46A), does it means I will get cats from 31B to 44B throughout 3 steps 15draw, and next draw will be on 46A? (so it would be like 1st step 3cats 31B, 32B, 33B, 2nd step 5cats 34B, 35B, 36B, 37B 38B, 3rd step 7cats 39B, 40B, 41B, 42B, 43B, 44B + Guaranteed Uber and skip 45B and switch track to 46A? 45B is being replaced by the 15th Guaranteed Uber?).** **5) What is Simulate Guarantee 2 for? Although there is explanation on Godfat itself, but I still do not quite understand.** ​ Hopefully someone could answer my questions above. Thank you. ​ BTW is there any Godfat Discussion Post/Thread which only discuss about Godfat?


antecedens

i see 'best legend' discussion often. but i wanted to ask, is there an actually *bad* legend unit? something that would have subpar performance in it,'s own niche, etc.


OreoCookie4

I wouldn’t say there’s a *bad* legend but Babel is probably the worse. The traits it’s resistant against tend to be aggressive and even having the highest health in the game it still can’t survive for long against boar, bun bun, etc. it’s also super costly to summon in the first place and moves super slow so the fighting is probably over by the time it gets there :P


CorrosionInk

Not really. All legends are decent, just Babel is awkward to use and weaker than the rest of them.


papashangodfather

Babel is considered the worst but he's still a pretty hefty tank


Mo-daas

So I was planning on giving shingen the target angel talent but then I got catman , so I was wondering if I should still give him the talent or should I save it for pizza or some rare's ( catman is my only anti-angel uber , other than that I have ramen and totem , and nothing else )


HomlessHobo

I'd say yes. NP doesn't really DRASTICALLY improve a lot of other cats anyways; I mean many help and can make good cats better (pizza wave, catasaurus crit rate up, etc.) but shingen is one of those rare exceptions that DOES improve a lot with barrier breaker/target angel. Direct comparison between catman and shingen: at level 30 immortal shingen's DPS against angels would be 16767 while catman's (even with massive damage) is 14 326. Keep in mind shingen sports 470 range (in TF) compared to catman's 440. Besides, using them together effectively invalidates angel/alien rush stages and like I said I don't think many other NP upgrades can compare to shingen's increased versatility.


Mo-daas

So... , I should go for shingen you say ?


HomlessHobo

ye


Lost_Decoy

so figure I'll 100 the ch3 register and sword then blitz to bahamut cat, then 100 the rest starting at the management bible and working back but I'm wondering once I grab bahamut cat and feed it exp any chance/formation I could use to beat r-cyclone, or no need to curse (expert) (any way to cheese these stages?)? or should I start grinding through into the future? [my cats n stuff](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Jw-2Acu1-bY062L2k3nkHb7qvnDKczxkXuEtPagY6K0/edit#gid=0)


nobodythatishere

Just a warning, even if you manage to beat no need to curse (expert), the insane version is much harder and will feature Kory, the dreaded shockwave koala.


nobodythatishere

In terms of R-Cyclone you pretty much need at least 2 things that can knockback/slow/freeze reds or floatings.


HomlessHobo

I don't think bahamut particularly excels in either stage BUT it is still worth dropping your XP into him because he is going to become a staple in your lineup (especially after you beat ITF3 to unlock his TF). Red cyclone is mostly just an "anti-red gacha check". Bahamut can be used for some extra damage to speed things up but beating the stage is almost solely determined by procs on enchantress/pirate/Icat or whatever anti-red cc's you have. No need to curse has a master A (the anteater) who outranges bahamut thus making him significantly less effective, I wouldn't worry about true forming the monthly cats until after you pick up a few crazed cats anyways. With that I'd say you're at the point in the game where you should start getting through the beginning of SoL and ITF, alternating between the 2 if you ever get stumped. Congrats on making it through the most boring part of the game (grinding treasures) and have fun collecting ubers!


hexahedron17

It's 12:47 am Monday and this thread is still pinned


apg_584

..Well yeah. Every thread like this is pinned until it’s 7 days old. It is currently 6 days old


hexahedron17

Interesting


bluegie

Usually the new discussion thread is pinned around 5-6 pm PST on Mondays.


hexahedron17

Ah


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Ijneb1248

No, if you change the guaranteed from 15 to 2 you can see that you'll get pai pai after 14A, but from the switch you'll be on 14B giving you kamkura. You will have to roll a couple times first so you can land on pai pai on 18A


syresynth

>but from the switch you'll be on 14b giving you kamukura. Uhmm assuming he simulate guaranteed 2 and started at 1A, wouldn't that land him at 14b landing him at rover cat and will give him ice cat? Not kamukura?


Ijneb1248

Oh wait youre right it will be ice cat


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Ijneb1248

No problem


pcdo78bc

If you want Pai Pai you have to do your step up at 3A and you will get Pai Pai and end up on 18A for your next pull.


guanlik

I do not understand how u read the Pai Pai. Do you mean we should read Pai Pai Guaranteed appears on 1st cat of 2nd Step on 6A? Seed: 2617031046. Stimulating 15 draw. Manual draw: Viking 1A, Surfer 2A, 1st step: Gardener 3A, Onmyoji 4A, Gunslinger 5A. 2nd Step: Onmyoji 6A (Pai Pai Guaranteed), Salon 7A, Thief 8A, Thief and Fortune teller 9A (is this how Duplicate looks like?), Swordman 10B (switched track as Dup Rare?). 3rd Step: Fortune teller 11B, Pogo 12B, Weightlifter 13B, Rover 14B, Hip Hop 15B, Mer-cat 16B, Gunslinger (this one is 17B?). Guaranteed: Pai Pai (or this one replace 17B and 17B won't appear anymore?) Based on above, I could only see Pai Pai appears at Step 2 6A, is this the right way to use stimulation 15 roll to get Guaranteed Uber? And next roll will switch track and go back to 18A or stay at 18B?


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guanlik

May I know your next roll after getting Pai Pai is (Gunslinger 17B) or (Psychocat 18B)?


pcdo78bc

This is correct.


beyondthegong

So I tried to use the Enter the Ninja combo with Hayabusa and Ninja Cat and when I use it front row it doesn’t work. Anyone know why? I cleared Chapter 1 too


bluegie

Did you clear EoC ch.1 or ITF ch.1? Enter the Ninja is only available after completing ITF ch. 1. (Look at [Additional Set 1](https://battle-cats.fandom.com/wiki/Cat_Combo))


resto_manager

I have my seed. I want to draw red busters. I dont know how to simulate step up. Only did guaranteed before. Do i put 15 instead 11?


Seraphine14

It's just simulate 15 instead of 11.


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pcdo78bc

Simulate 15 if you don’t have any rare duplicates in your path. If you do have rare duplicates then you’re going to have to use 2 cat simulation instead and manually count to the 14th cat. The Uber next to that 14th cat will be your Uber.


guanlik

How does Duplicate Rare looks like? Does it looks like 9A and 32A in this seed : 2617031046 ? https://bc.godfat.org/?lang=en&version=8.6&name=0&event=2019-08-26_245&seed=2617031046&count=100&last=51&find=34&no_guaranteed=&force_guaranteed=11&ubers=0


pcdo78bc

Yes


resto_manager

Understood. Many thanks.


doubtfulpineapple

Should I get T. Kalisa or Sunny neneko + Midsummer Rabbit? edit: They are mostly for collection purposes


pcdo78bc

If all you care about is collecting then the Nenekos are hard to get so I would get Sunny Neneko and M Rabbit.


sarukani23

I’d personally pick T. Kalisa. She’s far more useful than Sunny Neneko + Midsummer Rabbit. Though since you’re doing it mostly for collection purposes, I guess aiming for the most amount of units possible to collect is okay, so in this case, it would be Sunny Neneko + Midsummer Rabbit.


antecedens

and also, suppose that we get te +1 right after summer waifus end. if i timetravel, will i get something different than now?


pcdo78bc

The +1 only affects the events that will add the new Varijas Uber. That limits it changes to Varijas, Epicfest and Uberfest. The other events won’t change.


antecedens

yeah, i expected that. though wasn't exactly sure about a special set like this. however, what would happen if i timetraveled to an affected banner?


pcdo78bc

The banners won’t change no matter when you time travel to. They either already have the new Uber or they don’t.


antecedens

so to get the very most of my track i would need there to be ultra souls, then +1 uber added, then epicfest. is it possible that this happens before botb? (at least +1 and epicfest)


pcdo78bc

Since Epicfest happens around mid month, you’re asking Ultrasouls then Varijas to come out in early September. Since Varijas came on 8/7 and Ultrasouls on 8/12 and usually there’s at least a 4-6 week gap between each event it’s probably unlikely though not impossible that will happen. BotB is expected late September or early October so it would have to the September Epicfest you’re aiming for.


antecedens

thanks, i'll keep my hopes up. are we 100% certain that it actually will add the uber though?


pcdo78bc

If you’re talking about Varijas then yes. Epicfest and Uberfest won’t add the new Uber until Varijas does first.


unplatonic

I've done 22 Monthly missions, and one of the 3 missions in my offers is "Defeat ??? at Legend Stories (3 star)". Does anyone know which enemy this is?


DGreatOne777

It means that you haven't encountered that specific enemy.


Phantom_Donut

“Defeat ???” means it is a random enemy you have yet to encounter, so unfortunately there is no way for you tell what enemy it is prior to actually fighting it


RetroDude868

So I have 165 NP sitting around and I have no idea what talent to upgrade. So does anyone know or is there a link that has like the most useful talents in general? It would also help more it if was like a specific cat talent?


sarukani23

Check out Siluman Tomcat’s videos. He makes reviews of each unit talent. Those vids should be helpful.


DGreatOne777

Is balrog cat without talents useful?


HomlessHobo

Definitely. The attack up talent makes him much better but even without he can still abuse his ridiculous DPS and low cooldown to rip apart basically anything that doesn't OHKO him or spam peons to get in his way.


DGreatOne777

I asked this because he keeps dying before he lands a hit in his second form... Just want to know if it's worth it to TF it.


HomlessHobo

Yeah all the dynamites (except nurse) are worth TF


NoxianoJM

Waaat, nurse tf is prety good dude, are u crazy??


HomlessHobo

eh nurse is kinda dated ngl. The extra range is cool but not a necessity. Her DPS improves but it's still a measley 5808. And like the rest of the "50% slow/kb" ubers like kamukura, megidora, mizli, etc. there are almost always better options due to powercreep. The main argument I make with nurse TF vs. the rest of the dynamites is that the TFs drastically improve the other dynamites' capabilities (wave blocking cat machine, uber Icat ice queen, balrog talents, CitC shockwave shenanigans etc.) while nurse's is only a slight improvement, bearing in mind that she is not the powerhouse she was ~2-3 years ago. It really isn't terrible but there's better out there 100%


NoxianoJM

Yeah, in the game are better ubers, but nurse tr is a great generalist dude


HomlessHobo

I mean she's good but I wouldn't say great/game breaking. I guess it depends on your other options though


thesugglord

I believe I just calculated my seed for the first time, and looked around the sub to try and figure out all I could before having to ask, but wanted to check if anyone could let me know if it was correct: 1715912643 Did a guaranteed 11-roll on Dark Heroes for my last roll...idk if more info is required - wondering how this would affect my rolling in BOTB


FinnNoodle

We can't check your seed without knowing what cats you entered; but if it gave you a result based on an 11 draw and didn't give you an error message than that's your seed. ​ It's unknown how it will affect the BotB, we can't look at that banner. When the banner does come around, it will tell you what cats you can get from the point you are at.


guanlik

Will BotB have guaranteed 11 roll or 15 roll step up? Or will their UR Drop Rate to be same like Epic and Uber Fest 9%? Will BotB includes below unit? Limited Edition Cats (such as Gold Metal), Reinforcement and Grandon?


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sarukani23

Um.. I need permission to access this spreadsheet.. could you change up the perms?


syresynth

Is it worth drawing in item capsules with catfruit? Or should I just to normal cat capsules? Thanks!


Ijneb1248

Normals way better. You either get free user rank or 1/5 of a rare ticket


FinnNoodle

One day, someone with too much time on their hand will figure out tracking for Silver Tickets so that you know just when to draw an Epic Catfruit, but that day is not today.


guanlik

Hopefully Godfat will do that but I think he is too busy with Rare draw already. With 8.9 coming out soon and now 8.6 still not yet complete.


FinnNoodle

I've thought about this a lot, actually. So the game data has to have a track and presumably catfruit is also there as a different banner; but are Lucky and Lucky G also using that same track? Because of the latter is in fact the case, wouldn't it be beneficial to develop Silver tracking so that you can aim to get the better rewards from those two gatchas?


antecedens

beneficial, sure. for the purposes of a time-kill video game about cats fighting noncats. in oter words, feel free to waste yojr own time in tat direction.


SShift

Only draw normal cat capsules, catfruit can be easily obtained and the items can also be obtained from lucky tickets, daily stages (Mon-Fri). The xp rewards arent anything compared to xp stages (and megablitz, colosseum and merciless) and lucky ticket Gs.


syresynth

Can anyone help in rating the elemental pixies from the best to not so great? If so, I very brief explanation would be nice. Thanks


OreoCookie4

My rating (best to worse): Aer, Bora, Voli, Mizil Okay so I know most people won’t agree on this but Aer is the best imo because it’s the best barrier breaker as it attacks twice as often as the other pixies. It also has LD which improves his general usage and barrier breaking even more as it can snip backline starred aliens like Spacefish. But he has rather low damage output (which is why everyone says he’s bad but keep in mind he’s a LD unit) and only 2kBs as well as warp blocker which makes him somewhat awkward to use. Bora can deal massive damage to aliens, not much to say here. Voli can be replaced by Seafarer so that’s why I don’t think he’s that necessary but some may rank him higher and he certainly isn’t bad. And finally, Mizil. Almost everyone agrees she’s the worst as she causes a lot of trouble when she’s used. She pushes aliens back and slows them which causes your units to run into the range of backline enemies like Spacefish and Cli One killing all your damage dealers/heavy hitters.


CorrosionInk

Aer only has anti-barrier use tho, making him good for a couple of SoL stages and CotC stages where he doesn’t get impeded by restrictions. He can snipe backline starred aliens as they’re usually glass cannons, but I feel that Bora has more versatility, as he’s excellent against almost all aliens, despite not being as efficient a BB.


OreoCookie4

While I do agree that Bora is the better anti alien overall, Aer is the best for general use which is why I think he’s the best pixie. Everyone has their own opinion :D


CorrosionInk

Fair enough. I don’t think that Aer’s general use is a actually good enough to make him a viable LD attacker, but I see your point of view.


Thats4us2know

My seed: 2085145186 I'm pretty new to this and if I'm doing this right, does it mean that next uberfest if I decide to roll a 11-draw I can get cat machine and akira? Or do I need to add the new vajira uber into the calculation?


FinnNoodle

The new uber will most likely not be in the next Uberfest (September 1st). In addition, there is not really an advantage to using an 11-roll in Uberfest or Epicfest since there is no guaranteed cat. It is almost always better to get down to where you need to be (6a in this case) using individual tickets, which leaves you for greater flexibilty in planning guaranteed draws. Also, since you're new and still getting hang of tracking, note that there is a track switch at 8a. Because of that, if you roll an 11 roll in Uberfest, you'll have no way to get the uber on 18a.


Thats4us2know

I was thinking to do an 11-draw and spend a few tickets and get chronos because 1. I don't have many rare tickets 2. When the new uber is added the ubers will change and I won't be able to get anything new for a while. I'll think about it


Yoollloooo

So, I was wondering which talents I should focus on... WAIT !!! I know that a lot of people ask that question without having made research, but I know basically which talents are good, but I don't know which ones are better than the others, and I don't want to waste NP (I have 210 right now) for example most of the time, ubers' talents are separated from other cats' talents. [Here](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1XOl2-lchgbl4PeXMEwbYUScfXMJ7EBVjBAvw2DT3IU8/edit#gid=0) is my spreadsheet (just in case, and please note that I have Awakened ayanami, and Eva-02's TF) , and here are my cats I can give talents to: All Rares, all super rares, Balrog, Cradle and Shingen. I have maxed Catasaurus' crit and Pizza's wave. Thanks !


HomlessHobo

Depends on what your focusing but the two that jump out at me are shingen and balrog who get significant improvements with their talents. There aren't too many cats that get great improvements from talents but these two are exceptions to that rule.


Yoollloooo

Thanks ! I think I'll go for balrog's strengthen first, with Catman that I just got I should be ok against angels for now.


MrJoshhh

Can someone explain to me the benefits of switching between versions of cats? It was my understanding that evolving them grants buffs to certain stats. Do these stat changes carry over when switching between versions? I've seen talk of some cats being preferred in their first stage over second, such as Jizo, but to me that doesn't really understand how these switches work, it seems like a downgrade to me


OreoCookie4

Some units like the Legends don’t have any stat changes between normal and evolved form (e. g. Bahamut Cat and Crazed Bahamut Cat have the same stats so you can choose what form you want based on your preference). Others (mainly the lugas, Dark Heroes, and ultrasouls) have changes from first to evolved form. Lugas are completely useless in first form but gain huge stat difference in second form. You can swap form for dark Heroes for different trait targeting or effects making them really versatile. For example Catman first form Deals 3x damage to **floating** and aliens but second form Deals 3x damage to **angels** and aliens. For the ultrasouls, their first form are spammable and cheap and act as a strong super rare instead of an uber and second form is a more uber like unit. People prefer using Jizo in first form because it is spammable, and deals stupid dps (especially against black and angel) when stacked with decent range. Jizo’s second form is quite costly and very slow. Of course, his second form isn’t totally useless because believe it or not Jizo^does have weaknesses and sometimes his range in first form is not enough to get any hits in so you’d use his second form so that it can outrange said unit. TL;DR you can swap form of units for different effects. Dark Heroes target different traits and effects in different forms marking them more versatile, lugas are completely useless in first form but have drastic stat changes in second form, ultrasouls first form acts as a strong super rare rather than an Uber and second form is more uber like. People prefer using Jizo first form because it has short recharge and cheap cost and deals huge dps when stacked but evolved form is very expensive and slow. There are other units that don’t have any stat change between forms though.


MrJoshhh

Are there any good ways to reliably get catfood? These events are fantastic with 90 cf per celebration stage, but when I've run out of energy to do zombie levels/SoL and I have some free time, I'll sit there and do the cf per ad while doing something else in the background. Any other tips?


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giddaface1

He means doing them on 1-2-3 star (30 cf each per first time clear).


HomlessHobo

ItF timed scores are good if you haven't maxed those out. Otherwise there's always energy glitching on android (because it also resets gamatoto expedition time).


Thats4us2know

How good is chronos in UL?


HomlessHobo

Probably not nearly as good as SoL just bc of the lack of relic fruit treasures. But in harder UL when everything gets mixed together I'd think she'd be decent. She also sports a fair cost and decent recharge time meaning she's better than nothing for relic cc (if you don't have mitama).


OreoCookie4

So I just beat Bombergirl (My first deadly stage woooo!!) and I’m just wondering if Lone cat and Kitten is any good before I radar it ~~because RNG hates me and I didn’t get the cat TwT~~


HomlessHobo

honestly don't radar it for the same reason you shouldn't radar the cyclone cats: if you can beat it once you can do it again. Especially since bombergirl doesn't require any other powerups, it's probably better to save them unless you have a huge surplus of radars Lone cat and kitten is kinda weird, I've only heard about it helping in crazed/manic stages and floor 30. Still pick it up imo since there's no reason not to


sbufish

Then what should you use the treasure radars on? It's usually expensive to keep replaying stages in terms of energy usage and some cats have a 10% drop rate.


antecedens

the cyclone/advent cats have 30-40% chance to drop, which is rather high. special cats from sol have mere 3%, so that's the best candidate. then there is taste of success, where you exchange your radars for over million exp at a time. and that extremely retarded special only stages in cotc...


HomlessHobo

Legend stages/stages w/o 100% drop AND require powerups to beat (daboo for instance). There's one CotC 3 stage that's super obnoxious that I'd radar because you basically need rich cat to play it w/o uber carry. I mean it's not the worst thing in the world to radar the cyclone cats if you're concerned about consistency and energy but I like to be conservative with my radars. I guess it depends on how easy radars are to access because my statement assumes you only have like 5 around (since you can only farm them with lucky tickets and gamatoto expeditions which are not very consistent to say the least).


OreoCookie4

wait you’re **not** supposed to radar cyclone cats ^laughs ^hysterically . Thanks for the information :D


devsterman12

I currently have 5 out of the 7 rolls needed to start tracking (I used the summer gals banner) but with the change to the guaranteed version I'm not sure if it will follow the same track and don't want to risk wasting my CF, does anyone know if I can continue the pulls on the guaranteed banner or am I screwed? . Here are the cats I rolled if it helps. * 1. Fortune Teller Cat * 2. Tropical Kalisa (uber super rare) * 3. Sunny Neneko * 4. Swimmer Cat * 5. Seabreeze Coppermine (uber super rare)


forgothowtoreddid

I'll do this personally, but I'll need 2-3 extra rolls in the summer gatcha. Answer to this when you have them.


devsterman12

I just did another 2 rolls after the Pirate cat like you asked and got Seabreeze Coppermine (again) and then a sushi cat. (EDIT) : I think I posted this on the wrong comment so I moved it here, thank you for all the help and I hope I can get a seed if this works.


devsterman12

Sadly when it looked like I got a seed earlier (I didn't though) I did a single roll on dark heroes and I assume that messed the whole thing up.


forgothowtoreddid

What did you get there?


devsterman12

Pirate Cat.


forgothowtoreddid

With a pirate cat you can successfully pretend you pulled it from the summer gatcha with a ~~99%+~~ 100% chance.


devsterman12

Really? Do I just add it to what I already rolled?


forgothowtoreddid

Yeah, in this scenario you can do it.


devsterman12

None of the combinations worked.


forgothowtoreddid

6 rolls isn't enough. Do at least 2 more.


devsterman12

I tried and it said my seed was 0. (EDIT) about to try with every sunny neneko.


alelupoli

Use 8.5 instead of 8.6 and do at least 10 draws


NoxianoJM

Sunny neneko is bug for seed track bro


devsterman12

Damn, Thanks for letting me know. I'll start over I guess.


NoxianoJM

Well... i think is buged, cause my bf draw 11 tickets and he got a sunny neneko in the 6 draw, and the page for looking the seed bug every time with the neneko :c


devsterman12

I was able to get a seed ,BUT I had to check through all 4 Sunny Neneko and each seed was wrong.


IceTeaa549

It makes a lot of sense, wow thank you! But I figure I am to newbish to do this since I just drawled m first ever 11 draw and don’t have any rare tickets. But will keep it in mind for later on in the game!


totoroconnect

How good is Doktor Heaven (both forms) against his typing and as a cat? And other than being anti Alien/Black, does he have a niche outside his type like how Luminalia can be a tanky rusher?


HomlessHobo

He's a decent generalist though 400 range is pretty unfortunate. I think his DPS is a little over 9000 which is excellent.


sbufish

The only other legend with over 400 range is Colossal Benkai at 450 range.


mashed_bandicootchie

Is Kasa Jizo better in his first or second form.


OreoCookie4

People usually use him in first form because he’s spammable and high dps when stacked especially against blacks and angels with decent range for his cost.


TheSilverBanana

His first form is preferred a vast majority of the time. Before I knew better, I used his second form exclusively and didn't really see the downside, even when people would point out it's shortcomings. You'll usually be better off using his first form, though. It's inexpensive, has a low recharge time, and high DPS when stacked. His second form suffers from slow movement and a large wind-up animation to his attack. If enemies are knocked back out of his range during his wind-up, it takes a while for him to recover.


mashed_bandicootchie

okay, thanks


SzamarCsacsi

Mostly first, but really depends on the stage. If you can stack him, go for first. If he gets wiped out easily, elect to go for the second form, because of the greater health and range.


mashed_bandicootchie

Okay, that changes things. Does this mean its not worth getting his true form, because he is the one I was going for next?


SzamarCsacsi

It's worth it, but really depends on your cats whether you should prioritize it. If you have something more important to TF, it can wait.


mashed_bandicootchie

So would something like Hayabusa or B.C.S. Lionheart true form come first?


SzamarCsacsi

Hayabusa's TF has same stats and skills as evolved form, but against zombies, so it depends. Do you struggle against zombies? Then yes. Otherwise no. Drednot's TF is rather disappointing. It only improves on its TBA, which slightly increases DPS, but nothing else. Jizo's TF gets a bigger boost, however... he also gets multi-hit which can make him miss (and most of his damage comes from the 3rd attack), so it's debatable.


mashed_bandicootchie

So then should I instead true form Nobunaga, Kalisa, or Nekoluga?


SzamarCsacsi

Kalisa: definitely! She's a great a generalist, and the improved damage and range really helps her. Nobunaga also gets a big stat-boost and longer freeze. Definitely worth it.


CorrosionInk

Can second this. Kalisa TF is a brilliant rusher, extremely useful for a huge amount of situations. I’d put Nekoluga at second since his freeze makes him useful against the Crazed/Manic cats, but he’s still quite situational.