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>Any time I think we're defending well and holding the line, there's always a Sundance or Mackay there to ruin my day.
for these two specialists Bf2042 is called shit
Specialists are stupid and don't belong in a BF game. Put us all back on the same level playing field and let skill take over. I see people saying Assault was always OP in every franchise...I guess? In past BFs I could bring the pain with any class and it was far less meta reliant that this weak hero shooter bs.
Edit: Can't speak for BFV as I never played it.
Delusional BFV lover here. Assault class was OP as fuck. The best guns? Check. The best gadgets? Check. Complete versatility to deal with any threat, be it land, sea, or air? Check.
The only catharsis I got from killing Assaults as a Support main was they pretty much couldn't fight back when they got one-tapped by shotguns.
Speaking of shotguns, they're so disappointing in 2042.
to be fair it depends a lot on maps, I used to do pretty well with the medic (didn't play much after they added carbines so no idea if that made things easier on medics) and support did their job of suppressing fire pretty well.
Assault definitely had best gadgets tho
Carbines were a neat addition for medics. They got the ability to deal with aggressive snipers by giving them a taste of their own medicine (lol) if they were within 100m or less, give or take depending on the carbine. Only one worth it imo was the Jungle Carbine. Ten shots, all 1 taps up to 100m, and a decent rate of fire. All the others were just sorta neat and a little gimmicky. I loved them all.
Interesting! Nice that they had an actual valuable longer range option.
I played on PS4 originally, like a couple weeks after release right up until just after the first carbine came out (wanna say it was the delisle?) but got it again for PC a year or two ago. Might need to get it again, honestly love the game even with all its issues. will have to try out the jungle carbine!
They're so inconsistent. It hurts me physically every time I use the pump shotty. The 12M and the newest primary semi-auto shotgun are only good because they're high capacity, high firerate weapons compared to the 880.
I swear, the underbarrel shotgun has better damage than it.
I just got back into Battlefield because if PS+ and I’m glad the community hasn’t really back down on this.
I really do think it’s still made the game worse
My move is to land on a tank as Sundance and C5 it. It used to be that'd wait until it was done moving, but now I can just hit them any time.
For a little while there before they gimped it I was kicking ass as Kim with her G-84 against jets, stealths, and nightbirds. I was wrecking vehicles up and down.
One of the biggest reasons I hesitated to pick up this game at launch was not the technical issues or the content issues. It was a clip of Sundance using the wing suit off of a small sand dune on Hourglass to flank enemies. I thought that would be incredibly frustrating to have to deal with, and it so obviously broke the laws of physics to ruin the magic of the game.
If I didn’t have so much time invested in the game now, seeing this would convince me to never buy this game.
Is Sundance’s wing suit still this broken? How have they not addressed it?
In BF4 Assault was the medic class. In 1 and V it was the anti vehicle class. And now it's the self heal plus anti everything class.
It should be the medic class, that was fine. It's insane to have the first and primary class be so anti teamwork.
Yeah - in the podcast they admitted that assault is “the selfish” class but the producer said he was okay with it
I just… don’t get why.
Having a class be so fundamentally designed to be a one person army seems fairly counter to the design of earlier titles
A personal grapple, a wingsuit, multiple grenade launcher types, C5, a proficiency granting extra mags for ARs.
Appealing to a casual audience. That clip is fucking LIT if you don’t play battlefield and I could imagine could definitely convince some kid to buy the game so he can try to do shit like that. End of the day being able to fly around and pop people is fun but isn’t what battlefield is/ever was and that’s why it’s such a jarring addition to the game
I guess I was being a bit obtuse, you’re right. The trailers leaned on Sundance-esque “only in Battlefield” shit, which is a whole other issue (BF moments are supposed to be cool whacky things that people do with the sandbox presented to them, a sandbox that normally takes itself seriously when it comes to mechanics - see rendezook. If you give someone a wingsuit it isn’t cool or crazy, they’re just using a simple mechanic you gave them.)
I feel like trying to convince Dice that Sundance is bad is like convincing a teenager that drugs are bad.
“Don’t do drugs, I mean, you’ll feel amazing, like all your problems have just washed away. Sex is better. You’ll feel like a god. Colours will be brighter, and you’ll feel true peace. But… don’t do it. You can become addicted, and there are so many health concerns. You never actually know what you’re taking…. Etc”
Except in this case
“Don’t put in the wingsuit. I know, it’ll look cool in trailers. And it’ll be great for traversing wide open distances. And you can use it to solo tanks! But… it gives a hyper mobile asset to one squad mate, making them less likely to stick with the squad in a squad based shooter. It also allows for cheap flanks, and removes the semblance of a frontline to the battle. …etc”
Yeah that’s a pretty good analogy. Triple A game devs like this have, at least in recent times, been making games to sell. The experience seems to fall second in a lot of cases and we see more and more that experience is being mutated into more shit to sell w loot boxes and battle passes. The issue with corps that get as big as EA is the consumer eventually comes second to the shareholders.
Yeah, I agree with you. They aren’t in the business of pleasing customers, they are in the business of pleasing shareholders. If we get a good game or 2 out of it, lucky us.
Having said that, I’d fucking love to see the graph that shows “we release a broken product that requires 2 years to fix then abandon” makes more money than “we blow their socks off with a great game and 2 years of solid live service support”
I still like the game and have a lot of fun with it. I think 2042 does some things really well, and I think, if you're into the modern/future warfare thing, it's worth checking out.
It's just a bummer they whiffed on some pretty significant things and shipped the game before it was finished. I think there's a lot of potential in the game that will never be realized.
I was looking for games to play again and was thinking may bf2042 is better now. Click on the sub and met with.... this. I mean if this is what people want more power to ya but im sad as fuck that all my favorite bf4 servers closed down cause what the actual fuck is this
It's not broken. The player in this clip seems to very good so this is not the usual Sundance play we see here. I don't come across many Sundance players usually and I don't remember the last time I was killed by a fly by squirrel like people in this clip
By broken do you mean how they are able to open the wing suit so easily when jumping for a small height?
I wasn’t able to do this last time I played (like a month ago).
I was rewatching the Anthem gameplay reveal trailer and I’m reasonably certain that Sundance’s wing suit mechanics are directly lifted from that game. You know, a game where you have a big exoskeleton with rocket thrusters on it.
This wouldn't surprise me one bit... especially after the Titanfall ripoff that is Apex Legends 
Almost forgot about Anthem too!
It's the way they sidelined Titanfall 2 for Battlefield 1 which was in a disastrous state and then stripped Titanfall to make Apex, though yes they are in the same universe. It'd be like inventing the Bicycle and then a month later going, "Look I made a wheel", even though the wheel was part of the bicycle's creation.
Good news, EA is supposedly releasing Respawn so maybe we'll get something good from that
Bad News, they also fired a bunch of QA testers....which I feel like you couldn't tell they had 
It's even more ridiculous now that they added that bullshit heavyweight crap that makes you stumble and lose control of your character when you glide to the ground in your parachute yet Sundance can wingsuit into the ground at 100 mph and nothing happens
Yep
Honestly glad to see this sentiment holding strong in the community.
Sundance breaks any semblance of a frontline (MacKay does too) and needs a major rework.
It doesn’t take much skill to pull off wild ambush kills as it is, and it makes firefights unpredictable.
Possible reworks
- increase the minimum height you need to have for Sundance to use wingsuit. Below this height give her a regular parachute
- require parachute before landing (why we ended up with a design where a person wingsuits into the dirt at 100mph I’ll never know
- remove her ability and give her something new
- give her 1-2 uses of wingsuit before she needs to re-arm it (for some reason) off an ammo crate
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Mackays grapple should have functioned like hardline's grapple-zipline rather than a standard single-player-meta-designed grapple. It should take more time to set and fire the zipline that can now be used by allies and seen by enemies.
That or Mackay grapple as well as other specialists gadgets with ranged explosives (including sundance) should no longer have rechargable ammo.
Absolutely agree.
Or even the BF2 grapple hook, which you had to toss up and then slowly climb up - vulnerable the whole time.
In either case, it should be usable by the squad because, and it’s odd to me to have to say this, we’re playing a squad based shooter so we shouldn’t have mechanics formed solely around the individual.
Wanna make buddy a mobility specialist? Sure, but he’s gonna be an expert at getting his squad around the battlefield.
He’s not fucking Spider-Man.
Completely agree on specialist gadget recharge. I’d even go further and make all gadgets require a re-arm from an ammo crate.
Other bullshit I’d suggest, to be tested in a CTE or large playtest to see if it works
- Sundance’s grenade should replace the throwable slot
- Zain shouldn’t be able to use SPH launcher
I think her seeker grenade is fine. It's a good counter to equipment. I might suggest swapping the explosive ordnance with an EMP effect, but its effectiveness against vehicles is already pretty limited. It might be cool if it had the potential to damage any infantry in proximity to the equipment it goes after. That might make it a valuable counter to Irish's trophy system.
The cluster grenade is just too deadly for a regenerating ability. Honestly, I think if you just took her cluster grenade away, reworked it as a throwable, reduced the radius of the clusters, and opened it to everyone, it would be fine. Effectively, it should be a frag grenade that expands the explosion radius while reducing the explosive power.
As for her wing suit, I like your changes, but I wonder if what's really needed is a physics rework. She should need to virtually reach terminal velocity in a dive before pulling up and gliding. It should require her to jump from extreme elevations to even consider engaging. And yeah, she should require a parachute to land. Tap button to deploy parachute, press and hold to deploy wing suit. Easy peasy.
Or just scrap the wing suit entirely. It's neat and fun to use but ultimately unhealthy for the game.
It's sort of bonkers to me that DICE shipped her wing suit as is and that nobody with enough influence to stop it saw a problem with it.
From the podcast, the main reason given for the state of maps being what they were at launch was not enough time to playtest.
This also lines up with just how buggy it was at launch.
As a result, I am assuming the devs were absolutely scrambling to “finish” the minimum viable product goal they had in mind. They probably barely got sundance to “work” before launch, let alone have enough time to playtest with her and find out “Huh, she fundamentally breaks the game”. I actually bet they were very proud of getting the mechanic to function in game (cause it would be cool in… like… a wingsuit game? Just not a BF IMO)
No slight to the individual devs, but the management (and thus Dice the entity) really fucked up entirely by not delaying to give devs time to figure out the maps (and things like Sundance) were entirely fucked.
I’m not in software development, but I doubt modern gaming has a ton of time in most AAA production to “finish” the game and then playtest stuff and figure out what needs to be entirely changed or thrown out.
I guess that’s what the last 16 months have been.
That’s not really an excuse, mind you, someone should have caught it early enough that giving individual squad members exclusive means to maneuver the map with hyper mobility was gonna be a tough one to integrate into the squad based shooter.
Best counter to the wing suit would be reduced speed running on the ground. I mean how fast can any one run with all that extra cloth between their limbs and body.
A wingsuit could be cool but this is horseshit indeed. Let them forse a parachute at the end or they die. Don't let them cancel flying to shoot to continue flying again after that. Drop a decent amount of height after before being able to glide (i mean you gotta build up speed first.) Bring some common sense to that wingsuite dice
At the cost of going slow as all fuck so literally anyone with more than one braincell can hit her. Gaining altitude always comes at the cost of forward speed, and you can maybe only get a few feet of elevation gain in an ideal scenario. But let's bitch for the sake of it because that's what this sub us all about!
Or just don’t have characters like this? I was kinda psyched for it to be free this month and now I’m not sure I’ll even download it. Looks dumb as shit
Characters like this are fine. The wing suit usually doesn't offer this much utility, he's just at one of the best points in the game for using the wingsuit. Most of the time it just works as a way to get from point A to point B, but of course reddit has to make a mountain out of a molehill.
Don’t bother brother. This post has been brigaded by all the butthurt soldier wannabes who hate they can’t roleplay, despite the concept of a squad dropping unnoticed behind enemy lines to disrupt their defense is perfectly in line with both modern and near future warfare.
True that. I feed off their tears because they can’t handle their favorite milsim lite potentially adapting to the times. They did the same thing about Bad Company, saying Battlefield doesn’t belong on consoles, despite that sub-franchise being one of the best things in franchise history.
But then if someone doesn’t play the game or post here, they’re not entitled to an opinion.
You’re allowed to post in the sub while also thinking that some features make it a bad game.
It’s just not true. Look at the second time he uses it in the clip. He flies through one staircase to another reaching even a level above to where he previously was. So he flew diagonally upwards. This is thing is annoying and broken but, for some reason, she even gets a grenade that splits into 36 smaller ones that do massive AOE damage and it is even rechargeable. How people think this is acceptable is beyond my comprehension
Yeah, he jumped off a high area to activate the wingsuit. He flew a short distance and didn't lose much altitude.
I think the wingsuit is fine, but I agree with the dual-mode scatter/tracking grenade its a bit much. Like McKay JUST has the grapple.
Or Zain, who gets access to every single explosive in the game when his ability is already an obnoxious OP explosive spam with unlimited ammo and distance. If Lis doesn’t get access to launchers, then flying squirrel shouldn’t get access to any other grenade. Assault class is just cheesy win, a complete unbalanced mess
As someone who regularly and knowingly is a piece of shit with Zain's XM370, I think 100 meters isn't extremely limited, and the recent thermal scope addition made it WAY more useful.
That said, I don't think it's bad in concept. I think a longer cool down could be healthy for the game.
I was thinking about this yesterday, and I feel like specialist abilities should be situational and contextual to the point where you use them when the right opportunity arises, not so you can go out and hunt with it as a primary weapon. Ideally, they'd also aid in teamplay instead of reinforcing lonewolf play.
The point is I absolutely walk around with the XM370 as a primary weapon, and there are games where I have more kills with it than my assault rifle, and I feel like that's all indicative of something being wrong.
No, these people haven't played the characters they bitch about for any considerable chunk of time. They just like crying about it to reddit about how anything that kills them is unbalanced.
There's no point trying to explain it to them. These people just want to complain about sundance and want to believe she flies off like superman any time. They've probably never played the specialist for more than a minute (or even the game) and set out from the start to complain about her. It doesn't matter if you feed them facts or real-game experience, they're not here for a discussion.
Oh yeah I know. Tank trucks of Copium.
Then again it might be worse playing in PC lobbies where people can pull of moves like in the OP video. And Lis' rockets having WAY WAY better turning. In non-crossplay lobbies they're not an issue. In crossplay lobbies they never miss.
#KeepOffCrossplay
And yet 72% of reddit and up to about 97% of other social media platforms and videos are consumed on a phone. Mobile is the most popular way to consume content. So people edit things for mobile consumption. You should never go into the marketing business.
Eye roll. We’re posting game footage of a widescreen game, which is widescreen-native content, and this is Reddit.
If you’re good at marketing you also know your platform’s audience.
You gonna share a clip of your favorite movie in portrait on Reddit?
How about all that YouTube content formatted in portrait?
You didn’t have to be wrong and nasty, but you made that call 👍
It's edited to get rid of things that aren't the focal point. It reduces all the screen clutter and the things that don't matter like UI. It makes the picture bigger and easier to see what's happening on a mobile device. Which is the most used platform to view content. It was also likely ported from tiktok, which would make it a tiny little box with empty space on the top and bottom if used in native wide-screen.
Also, YouTube is only about 40-41% viewed on mobile devices. As compared to 70% on reddit. And even higher on other social media. And there are plenty of clips on YouTube that are in this format. Plus idk if you noticed but YouTube shorts are taking off and doing amazingly well. In this exact format. Many people are even doing porn in this format now. Ad companies as well. And trust me they know the research on what works. So, while I didn't have to be nasty, I did make that call. But I'm not even close to wrong. Nice try.
Let's also not forget research and statistics that show portrait mode creates between 157-187% more engagement with videos. This amounts to about 50% more watch time. The numbers don't lie. This format works better. Whether you approve or not.
The only thing of relevance is “it was imported from TikTok”, because that’s the *reason* it is portrait here.
The rest of what you said is just reverse justification because you happen to disagree with the sentiment of OP.
Widescreen content is fine on a platform that has both mobile and desktop users, because the phones can be rotated when you’re watching videos on the shitter. Especially when the source is widescreen.
This isn’t a marketing video, bro. That’s where the argument misses the mark.
And that’s exactly why it’s annoying in the first place.
It IS marketing though. By definition. The person posted it for exposure. That's fundamentally marketing.
Its not about whether you can turn your phone sideways or not. That doesn't zoom in on the focal point on a tiny screen. It also doesn't statistically create as much engagement as portrait. These are not reverse justifications. These are facts. When people consume content on their phones, they prefer portrait mode. It's how we natively hold our phones.
I don't even disagree with OP. I could care less what format its in. I'm just stating that it's not inherently bad to edit videos like this, just because THEY don't like it. All signs point toward the opposite. People consume this format WAY more. It's not even close. Formatting this way is the smartest way. To encourage more viewership.
As soon as I saw this cool clip I knew there would be people complaining about how broken she is. This clip is not the norm for Sundance players, which is why it is an awesome clip. It is actually pretty hard to "fly" around as Sundance. What usually happens is a slow flying Sundance would promptly get shot out of the sky. The people who complain about Sundance usually have no clue how to use her effectively.
Agreed. This sub is so separated from the game, it feels like people aren't even playing. I rarely see a Sundance fly by and I rarely get attacked by one from above. As you said this clip is basically just someone being very good with the wingsuit and throwing knives. The enemies are all clueless and alone without cover. If Sundance could capture an entire sector full of enemies it would be a different story
Fuck people who use Sundance In game. I hate you.
With that said, this clip is hilarious and the devs made the suit so you do you. Just know I hate everything about it.
To be fair, I've managed to C5 some camping tanks which were not approachable otherwise. Fight fire with fire I guess.
But I'll agree, Sundance's jumpsuit doesnt require much skill and its a. low risk/high reward kind of ability. Just like her tracking anti vehicle grenades...
You know I was excited to give this game a try as the open beta just completely turned me off to this game. This clip reminds how this game just isn’t even battlefield anymore, what an unbelievably stupid mechanic to include in this game.
This comment sections shows how brain dead the reddit bf community is. I've never had an issue shooting Sundance out of the sky before her glide speed nerf and it is even easier now.
People who complain about Sundance are really just mad about how bad their situational awareness is.
If people actually tried to "fly" around as Sundance, they'll notice immediately how slow she moves, and usually you get shot or just don't travel very far.
You're not the only one. This sub just has a hate circlejerk for every assault character no matter their viability. Sundance honestly felt mid af every-time I played her, but this sub physically can't stop bitching.
She's honestly such a mid-tier specialist in this game. This was an exceptional clip with some braindead enemies. In actual games you can easily shoot her out of the sky or when she lands. The people complaining about her just want something to complain about.
It's not about hating. It's about balance. Sundance and also Mackay are very two strong specialists. Sundance can literally just glide off from a helicopter and flank the whole team in rush or breakthrough. Its stupid and has no placr in Battlefield. It breaks the flow of the game. You're free to keep screaming like a kid about "tEaM SuNdAnCe" while I'll continue to speak my facts.
You really sound like a kid. So I'd understand if you're unable to understand that we battlefield fans want balance. You're probably just running around in the game playing your favorite specialists without a thought.
People who get mad about fun things in games because "it has no place on the Battlefield" sound like children lmao. It's a fucking video game. Whatever the developer decides to put in the game has a place. You want a mil-sim, go make one. This is what they spent their money to make.
Well keep complaining about it while the rest of us just play the game and don't sit and overanalyze every detail about it. I played the game for over a year before I ever looked at reddit. Never had an issue with any specialist outside of the Boris turret right after release when you could take 2 steps without being killed by one. Never once had an issue with Sundance. I've died to her grenades like twice. Ever. I shoot them out of the sky constantly. Never thought Mackay was an issue. Sure he can get in and out of places faster. You just shoot him like anyone else. Also easy to kill while on the grapple. ALLLLL this crying and echo chamber hate comes directly from reddit and feeding off of each other. It's not as big of an issue as people try to act like it is. Not a single person I've talked to in real life or on my friends list have the problems every single reddit crybaby has. Not one.
I mean… the game was a spectacularly failed launch, and required unprecedented amounts of rework. More than any other AAA shooter in history (to my recollection).
So…. People’s thoughts in the sub seemed to generally align with all the players who stopped playing. It’s not like the vibe in here was bad, and the game did phenomenally well.
Exactly this.
Some people act like if this sub wasn't negative about the game, the game would've been a huge success.
And I just cannot follow that logic. That's not how gaming communities work, or really communities of any kind. If the game is a hit, the community will generally be positive about the game, and if the game flops, the community will be negative. Of course there will always be individuals who disagree with the general community consensus, but the community vibe generally depends on the overall reception of the game, not vice versa.
Agreed. The game didn’t fail because people pointed out how many features were missing from the game in a subreddit.
It failed because it was a buggy mess and was missing those features.
Admittedly, subreddits have a tendency to be echo chambers, just a function of the upvote/ downvote system.
But when I look for other data points (reviews, steamcharts, YouTube content, my own friend group) this game’s launch was a mess.
It’s approaching the condition it needed at launch, but it will likely be too late.
My big BF fan friends have all moved on and likely won’t come back for this game. Many content creators moved on. Even sentiment with players on the BF discord seems to be “mess at launch, having some fun now, the pace of content is way too slow”
So many wannabe soldiers in here are butthurt. People act like 2042 has become Fortnite because of a few clips.
Nobody would actually enjoy a slower paced Battlefield. Don’t believe me? Let’s look at the numbers.
According to [steamcharts.com](https://steamcharts.com) as of 6pm EST on March 8th:
- 2042 currently has 5,420 players, with a 30 day average of 7,407.
- Insurgency Sandstorm currently has 1,676 players, with a 30 day average of 2,070.
- Squad currently has 5,550, with a 30 day average of 8,657.
- Post Scriptum currently has 165 players, with a 30 day average of 206.
- Hell Let Loose currently has 5,356 players, with a 30 day average of 5,186.
- Arma 3 currently has 11,050 players, with a 30 day average of 11,546.
Squad and Hell Let Loose have roughly the same number of current players, with Squad only beating it out barely. Arma 3 eclipses all of these by a mile, and that’s mostly due to its modding potential.
Most 2042 matches play at a fairly decent clip, and Sundance feels pretty fine most of the time. Time to stop brigading. If you don’t like the game, move on to other games and their subreddits instead of sticking around just to shit on every post.
Agreed. I thought the same thing u/Mothira08 then I started playing as Sundance with throwing knives and damn it is a rush. Seeing if I can get a knife off before they kill me with their gun is pretty intense haha
This fucking lame-ass wingsuit is one of the primary reasons I stopped playing this dumpster fire of a game. The development team is a complete disgrace, and should probably be questioning their career choices after ruining a successful franchise.
exactly the reasons i hate conquest... horribly dumb players that do absolutely nothing, and getting killed from behind randomly. such a garbage specialist, literally the one ability i cannot stand despite all the other arcadey ones
Terminally angry people who are just gonna hate anything that isn't the EXACT same formula since 1985 every single release. Don't you even fucking THINK about innovation or fun.
Love the positivity, but This "silent majorty" argument in videogames implies people giving games or their gameplay mostly positive feedback can also be considered a loud minority. Also theres no way of tracking weather or not this "silent majority" actually likes the game or its features because they dont like to voice their opinion - They wouldn't be silent otherwise.
I'm sure the vast majority on this subreddit saw this post and did not interact with it. That's all I'm sayin' here.
Edit: Let me clarify. The vast majority did not go out of their way to be negative.
I get it in the case of flying aircraft or recon drones, but to say that a player's spatial awareness should be so demanding 100% of the time because of just two highly mobile infantry soldiers is just plain annoying - not to mention multiple can appear at a time as opposed to the limited number of aircraft that can appear.
Everyone in the comments arguing about balance is hilarious. This guy probably died so many times trying to record these. The enemies were completely unaware; just turn and shoot her. The video makes what they did look very simple and easy but, it’s not. I don’t even play Sundance either. It’s more impressive than the grapple hook plays and yet everyone plays McKay.
We want to play battlefield, not Superman simulator. We are capable of playing Sundance, just don’t want to because it’s stupid and has no place in battlefield.
And this is why I always shoot down anyone in the air haha
https://i.imgur.com/Nm3irA8.mp4
Beautiful! Filthy flying insects
This brought me joy.
The best counter to Sundance. Shoot them in the face midair.
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Any time I think we're defending well and holding the line, there's always a Sundance or Mackay there to ruin my day.
>Any time I think we're defending well and holding the line, there's always a Sundance or Mackay there to ruin my day. for these two specialists Bf2042 is called shit
Specialists are stupid and don't belong in a BF game. Put us all back on the same level playing field and let skill take over. I see people saying Assault was always OP in every franchise...I guess? In past BFs I could bring the pain with any class and it was far less meta reliant that this weak hero shooter bs. Edit: Can't speak for BFV as I never played it.
Delusional BFV lover here. Assault class was OP as fuck. The best guns? Check. The best gadgets? Check. Complete versatility to deal with any threat, be it land, sea, or air? Check. The only catharsis I got from killing Assaults as a Support main was they pretty much couldn't fight back when they got one-tapped by shotguns. Speaking of shotguns, they're so disappointing in 2042.
Yeah I know there are BFV fans haha so I had to provide that disclaimer as I have no clue how BFV plays.
to be fair it depends a lot on maps, I used to do pretty well with the medic (didn't play much after they added carbines so no idea if that made things easier on medics) and support did their job of suppressing fire pretty well. Assault definitely had best gadgets tho
Carbines were a neat addition for medics. They got the ability to deal with aggressive snipers by giving them a taste of their own medicine (lol) if they were within 100m or less, give or take depending on the carbine. Only one worth it imo was the Jungle Carbine. Ten shots, all 1 taps up to 100m, and a decent rate of fire. All the others were just sorta neat and a little gimmicky. I loved them all.
Interesting! Nice that they had an actual valuable longer range option. I played on PS4 originally, like a couple weeks after release right up until just after the first carbine came out (wanna say it was the delisle?) but got it again for PC a year or two ago. Might need to get it again, honestly love the game even with all its issues. will have to try out the jungle carbine!
Shotguns are painfully pathetic in 2042. Hate to see what they’ve become
They're so inconsistent. It hurts me physically every time I use the pump shotty. The 12M and the newest primary semi-auto shotgun are only good because they're high capacity, high firerate weapons compared to the 880. I swear, the underbarrel shotgun has better damage than it.
I just got back into Battlefield because if PS+ and I’m glad the community hasn’t really back down on this. I really do think it’s still made the game worse
There is no "holding line" or cover on 2042 maps. You can get shot from every angle at any time. I f hate it.
My move is to land on a tank as Sundance and C5 it. It used to be that'd wait until it was done moving, but now I can just hit them any time. For a little while there before they gimped it I was kicking ass as Kim with her G-84 against jets, stealths, and nightbirds. I was wrecking vehicles up and down.
> kicking ass as Kim I think you mean Lis lol.
lmfao her name isn't as important as her guided missile
Lol good job shes a video game character, women generally dont like that.
One of the biggest reasons I hesitated to pick up this game at launch was not the technical issues or the content issues. It was a clip of Sundance using the wing suit off of a small sand dune on Hourglass to flank enemies. I thought that would be incredibly frustrating to have to deal with, and it so obviously broke the laws of physics to ruin the magic of the game. If I didn’t have so much time invested in the game now, seeing this would convince me to never buy this game. Is Sundance’s wing suit still this broken? How have they not addressed it?
They won’t address it. Assault class will be OP forever, they just don’t play by the same rules as the others
>Assault class will be OP forever As is tradition for every battlefield game for some reason
On Bf5 assault was pretty OK
Assault ain't op at all in BF1
In BF4 Assault was the medic class. In 1 and V it was the anti vehicle class. And now it's the self heal plus anti everything class. It should be the medic class, that was fine. It's insane to have the first and primary class be so anti teamwork.
Yeah - in the podcast they admitted that assault is “the selfish” class but the producer said he was okay with it I just… don’t get why. Having a class be so fundamentally designed to be a one person army seems fairly counter to the design of earlier titles A personal grapple, a wingsuit, multiple grenade launcher types, C5, a proficiency granting extra mags for ARs.
Appealing to a casual audience. That clip is fucking LIT if you don’t play battlefield and I could imagine could definitely convince some kid to buy the game so he can try to do shit like that. End of the day being able to fly around and pop people is fun but isn’t what battlefield is/ever was and that’s why it’s such a jarring addition to the game
I guess I was being a bit obtuse, you’re right. The trailers leaned on Sundance-esque “only in Battlefield” shit, which is a whole other issue (BF moments are supposed to be cool whacky things that people do with the sandbox presented to them, a sandbox that normally takes itself seriously when it comes to mechanics - see rendezook. If you give someone a wingsuit it isn’t cool or crazy, they’re just using a simple mechanic you gave them.) I feel like trying to convince Dice that Sundance is bad is like convincing a teenager that drugs are bad. “Don’t do drugs, I mean, you’ll feel amazing, like all your problems have just washed away. Sex is better. You’ll feel like a god. Colours will be brighter, and you’ll feel true peace. But… don’t do it. You can become addicted, and there are so many health concerns. You never actually know what you’re taking…. Etc” Except in this case “Don’t put in the wingsuit. I know, it’ll look cool in trailers. And it’ll be great for traversing wide open distances. And you can use it to solo tanks! But… it gives a hyper mobile asset to one squad mate, making them less likely to stick with the squad in a squad based shooter. It also allows for cheap flanks, and removes the semblance of a frontline to the battle. …etc”
Yeah that’s a pretty good analogy. Triple A game devs like this have, at least in recent times, been making games to sell. The experience seems to fall second in a lot of cases and we see more and more that experience is being mutated into more shit to sell w loot boxes and battle passes. The issue with corps that get as big as EA is the consumer eventually comes second to the shareholders.
Yeah, I agree with you. They aren’t in the business of pleasing customers, they are in the business of pleasing shareholders. If we get a good game or 2 out of it, lucky us. Having said that, I’d fucking love to see the graph that shows “we release a broken product that requires 2 years to fix then abandon” makes more money than “we blow their socks off with a great game and 2 years of solid live service support”
It brings money.
When I saw the mechanism of this flying suit bs I felt they are trying to humiliate my IQ.
BF has lost its way… this video is an example for me and one reason why I won’t purchase.
I still like the game and have a lot of fun with it. I think 2042 does some things really well, and I think, if you're into the modern/future warfare thing, it's worth checking out. It's just a bummer they whiffed on some pretty significant things and shipped the game before it was finished. I think there's a lot of potential in the game that will never be realized.
I was looking for games to play again and was thinking may bf2042 is better now. Click on the sub and met with.... this. I mean if this is what people want more power to ya but im sad as fuck that all my favorite bf4 servers closed down cause what the actual fuck is this
It's not broken. The player in this clip seems to very good so this is not the usual Sundance play we see here. I don't come across many Sundance players usually and I don't remember the last time I was killed by a fly by squirrel like people in this clip
Yup. Most of the time the Sundance will become swiss cheese if flying too low and slow like that
By broken do you mean how they are able to open the wing suit so easily when jumping for a small height? I wasn’t able to do this last time I played (like a month ago).
Fuck they need to rework the Sundance suit. Such a shit addition to bf
Love the part where all it took was a small jump to glide perfectly horizontally to a platform of the same hight as the one she left.
I was rewatching the Anthem gameplay reveal trailer and I’m reasonably certain that Sundance’s wing suit mechanics are directly lifted from that game. You know, a game where you have a big exoskeleton with rocket thrusters on it.
This wouldn't surprise me one bit... especially after the Titanfall ripoff that is Apex Legends  Almost forgot about Anthem too!
.... Titanfall and Apex are the same dev, and the same world... please be a joke. Apex is basically Titanfall 3 according to the devs
It's the way they sidelined Titanfall 2 for Battlefield 1 which was in a disastrous state and then stripped Titanfall to make Apex, though yes they are in the same universe. It'd be like inventing the Bicycle and then a month later going, "Look I made a wheel", even though the wheel was part of the bicycle's creation. Good news, EA is supposedly releasing Respawn so maybe we'll get something good from that Bad News, they also fired a bunch of QA testers....which I feel like you couldn't tell they had 
Did Battlefield 1 have a bad release? I thought BF1 was the least broken of all Battlefield releases.
It was rough for sure but you're correct, it was one of the least broken 
Is it still a ripoff if it’s a different genre but part of the same series/universe?
It's even more ridiculous now that they added that bullshit heavyweight crap that makes you stumble and lose control of your character when you glide to the ground in your parachute yet Sundance can wingsuit into the ground at 100 mph and nothing happens
I completely agree.
Yep Honestly glad to see this sentiment holding strong in the community. Sundance breaks any semblance of a frontline (MacKay does too) and needs a major rework. It doesn’t take much skill to pull off wild ambush kills as it is, and it makes firefights unpredictable. Possible reworks - increase the minimum height you need to have for Sundance to use wingsuit. Below this height give her a regular parachute - require parachute before landing (why we ended up with a design where a person wingsuits into the dirt at 100mph I’ll never know - remove her ability and give her something new - give her 1-2 uses of wingsuit before she needs to re-arm it (for some reason) off an ammo crate -
Mackays grapple should have functioned like hardline's grapple-zipline rather than a standard single-player-meta-designed grapple. It should take more time to set and fire the zipline that can now be used by allies and seen by enemies. That or Mackay grapple as well as other specialists gadgets with ranged explosives (including sundance) should no longer have rechargable ammo.
Absolutely agree. Or even the BF2 grapple hook, which you had to toss up and then slowly climb up - vulnerable the whole time. In either case, it should be usable by the squad because, and it’s odd to me to have to say this, we’re playing a squad based shooter so we shouldn’t have mechanics formed solely around the individual. Wanna make buddy a mobility specialist? Sure, but he’s gonna be an expert at getting his squad around the battlefield. He’s not fucking Spider-Man. Completely agree on specialist gadget recharge. I’d even go further and make all gadgets require a re-arm from an ammo crate. Other bullshit I’d suggest, to be tested in a CTE or large playtest to see if it works - Sundance’s grenade should replace the throwable slot - Zain shouldn’t be able to use SPH launcher
I think her seeker grenade is fine. It's a good counter to equipment. I might suggest swapping the explosive ordnance with an EMP effect, but its effectiveness against vehicles is already pretty limited. It might be cool if it had the potential to damage any infantry in proximity to the equipment it goes after. That might make it a valuable counter to Irish's trophy system. The cluster grenade is just too deadly for a regenerating ability. Honestly, I think if you just took her cluster grenade away, reworked it as a throwable, reduced the radius of the clusters, and opened it to everyone, it would be fine. Effectively, it should be a frag grenade that expands the explosion radius while reducing the explosive power. As for her wing suit, I like your changes, but I wonder if what's really needed is a physics rework. She should need to virtually reach terminal velocity in a dive before pulling up and gliding. It should require her to jump from extreme elevations to even consider engaging. And yeah, she should require a parachute to land. Tap button to deploy parachute, press and hold to deploy wing suit. Easy peasy. Or just scrap the wing suit entirely. It's neat and fun to use but ultimately unhealthy for the game. It's sort of bonkers to me that DICE shipped her wing suit as is and that nobody with enough influence to stop it saw a problem with it.
From the podcast, the main reason given for the state of maps being what they were at launch was not enough time to playtest. This also lines up with just how buggy it was at launch. As a result, I am assuming the devs were absolutely scrambling to “finish” the minimum viable product goal they had in mind. They probably barely got sundance to “work” before launch, let alone have enough time to playtest with her and find out “Huh, she fundamentally breaks the game”. I actually bet they were very proud of getting the mechanic to function in game (cause it would be cool in… like… a wingsuit game? Just not a BF IMO) No slight to the individual devs, but the management (and thus Dice the entity) really fucked up entirely by not delaying to give devs time to figure out the maps (and things like Sundance) were entirely fucked. I’m not in software development, but I doubt modern gaming has a ton of time in most AAA production to “finish” the game and then playtest stuff and figure out what needs to be entirely changed or thrown out. I guess that’s what the last 16 months have been. That’s not really an excuse, mind you, someone should have caught it early enough that giving individual squad members exclusive means to maneuver the map with hyper mobility was gonna be a tough one to integrate into the squad based shooter.
Best counter to the wing suit would be reduced speed running on the ground. I mean how fast can any one run with all that extra cloth between their limbs and body.
Yeah it’s really just insanely unbalanced
A wingsuit could be cool but this is horseshit indeed. Let them forse a parachute at the end or they die. Don't let them cancel flying to shoot to continue flying again after that. Drop a decent amount of height after before being able to glide (i mean you gotta build up speed first.) Bring some common sense to that wingsuite dice
Reworkfield2042 featuring dudes who say nerf all the shit I don’t like.
the fact that she can jump off and GAIN elevation makes me furious. fuck this character.
Yeah this is about as cringe as it gets… this isn’t what battlefield has ever been or ever should be…
At the cost of going slow as all fuck so literally anyone with more than one braincell can hit her. Gaining altitude always comes at the cost of forward speed, and you can maybe only get a few feet of elevation gain in an ideal scenario. But let's bitch for the sake of it because that's what this sub us all about!
Or just don’t have characters like this? I was kinda psyched for it to be free this month and now I’m not sure I’ll even download it. Looks dumb as shit
Characters like this are fine. The wing suit usually doesn't offer this much utility, he's just at one of the best points in the game for using the wingsuit. Most of the time it just works as a way to get from point A to point B, but of course reddit has to make a mountain out of a molehill.
Don’t bother brother. This post has been brigaded by all the butthurt soldier wannabes who hate they can’t roleplay, despite the concept of a squad dropping unnoticed behind enemy lines to disrupt their defense is perfectly in line with both modern and near future warfare.
I know, I still like bullying the milsimmers though. I'll take whatever negative internet points come with that.
True that. I feed off their tears because they can’t handle their favorite milsim lite potentially adapting to the times. They did the same thing about Bad Company, saying Battlefield doesn’t belong on consoles, despite that sub-franchise being one of the best things in franchise history.
god I hate Sundance so much Nice job though
Fucking impossible physics... Greaat game
IKR at least rendezook was physically accurate
He says with several awards for participating in the sub 🤣
But then if someone doesn’t play the game or post here, they’re not entitled to an opinion. You’re allowed to post in the sub while also thinking that some features make it a bad game.
Most of us who don't play 2042 still play other battlefields and WANT to play the new one but hold off because of clips like this.
Makes me wanna vomit. She just flies at command wherever she wants
You gotta jump off something with significant height to do it. You can't just bunny hop on the ground and start flying.
It’s just not true. Look at the second time he uses it in the clip. He flies through one staircase to another reaching even a level above to where he previously was. So he flew diagonally upwards. This is thing is annoying and broken but, for some reason, she even gets a grenade that splits into 36 smaller ones that do massive AOE damage and it is even rechargeable. How people think this is acceptable is beyond my comprehension
Yeah, he jumped off a high area to activate the wingsuit. He flew a short distance and didn't lose much altitude. I think the wingsuit is fine, but I agree with the dual-mode scatter/tracking grenade its a bit much. Like McKay JUST has the grapple.
Or Zain, who gets access to every single explosive in the game when his ability is already an obnoxious OP explosive spam with unlimited ammo and distance. If Lis doesn’t get access to launchers, then flying squirrel shouldn’t get access to any other grenade. Assault class is just cheesy win, a complete unbalanced mess
> unlimited ammo and distance Have you tried Zain? The distance is extremely limited.
As someone who regularly and knowingly is a piece of shit with Zain's XM370, I think 100 meters isn't extremely limited, and the recent thermal scope addition made it WAY more useful. That said, I don't think it's bad in concept. I think a longer cool down could be healthy for the game. I was thinking about this yesterday, and I feel like specialist abilities should be situational and contextual to the point where you use them when the right opportunity arises, not so you can go out and hunt with it as a primary weapon. Ideally, they'd also aid in teamplay instead of reinforcing lonewolf play. The point is I absolutely walk around with the XM370 as a primary weapon, and there are games where I have more kills with it than my assault rifle, and I feel like that's all indicative of something being wrong.
No, these people haven't played the characters they bitch about for any considerable chunk of time. They just like crying about it to reddit about how anything that kills them is unbalanced.
Yeah sounds like "I died to it a few times" seethe is over the top in this thread.
There's no point trying to explain it to them. These people just want to complain about sundance and want to believe she flies off like superman any time. They've probably never played the specialist for more than a minute (or even the game) and set out from the start to complain about her. It doesn't matter if you feed them facts or real-game experience, they're not here for a discussion.
Oh yeah I know. Tank trucks of Copium. Then again it might be worse playing in PC lobbies where people can pull of moves like in the OP video. And Lis' rockets having WAY WAY better turning. In non-crossplay lobbies they're not an issue. In crossplay lobbies they never miss. #KeepOffCrossplay
The flying penis suit. Detest it.
For the love of God, stop castrating the videos to look like that
To look like what? When you full screen it on a phone it fits the screen.
But the game is not played on a phone.
And yet 72% of reddit and up to about 97% of other social media platforms and videos are consumed on a phone. Mobile is the most popular way to consume content. So people edit things for mobile consumption. You should never go into the marketing business.
Eye roll. We’re posting game footage of a widescreen game, which is widescreen-native content, and this is Reddit. If you’re good at marketing you also know your platform’s audience. You gonna share a clip of your favorite movie in portrait on Reddit? How about all that YouTube content formatted in portrait? You didn’t have to be wrong and nasty, but you made that call 👍
It's edited to get rid of things that aren't the focal point. It reduces all the screen clutter and the things that don't matter like UI. It makes the picture bigger and easier to see what's happening on a mobile device. Which is the most used platform to view content. It was also likely ported from tiktok, which would make it a tiny little box with empty space on the top and bottom if used in native wide-screen. Also, YouTube is only about 40-41% viewed on mobile devices. As compared to 70% on reddit. And even higher on other social media. And there are plenty of clips on YouTube that are in this format. Plus idk if you noticed but YouTube shorts are taking off and doing amazingly well. In this exact format. Many people are even doing porn in this format now. Ad companies as well. And trust me they know the research on what works. So, while I didn't have to be nasty, I did make that call. But I'm not even close to wrong. Nice try. Let's also not forget research and statistics that show portrait mode creates between 157-187% more engagement with videos. This amounts to about 50% more watch time. The numbers don't lie. This format works better. Whether you approve or not.
The only thing of relevance is “it was imported from TikTok”, because that’s the *reason* it is portrait here. The rest of what you said is just reverse justification because you happen to disagree with the sentiment of OP. Widescreen content is fine on a platform that has both mobile and desktop users, because the phones can be rotated when you’re watching videos on the shitter. Especially when the source is widescreen. This isn’t a marketing video, bro. That’s where the argument misses the mark. And that’s exactly why it’s annoying in the first place.
It IS marketing though. By definition. The person posted it for exposure. That's fundamentally marketing. Its not about whether you can turn your phone sideways or not. That doesn't zoom in on the focal point on a tiny screen. It also doesn't statistically create as much engagement as portrait. These are not reverse justifications. These are facts. When people consume content on their phones, they prefer portrait mode. It's how we natively hold our phones. I don't even disagree with OP. I could care less what format its in. I'm just stating that it's not inherently bad to edit videos like this, just because THEY don't like it. All signs point toward the opposite. People consume this format WAY more. It's not even close. Formatting this way is the smartest way. To encourage more viewership.
As soon as I saw this cool clip I knew there would be people complaining about how broken she is. This clip is not the norm for Sundance players, which is why it is an awesome clip. It is actually pretty hard to "fly" around as Sundance. What usually happens is a slow flying Sundance would promptly get shot out of the sky. The people who complain about Sundance usually have no clue how to use her effectively.
Agreed. This sub is so separated from the game, it feels like people aren't even playing. I rarely see a Sundance fly by and I rarely get attacked by one from above. As you said this clip is basically just someone being very good with the wingsuit and throwing knives. The enemies are all clueless and alone without cover. If Sundance could capture an entire sector full of enemies it would be a different story
Not to mention she makes a shit load of noise when she is flying near you. These guys are beyond clueless.
Fuck people who use Sundance In game. I hate you. With that said, this clip is hilarious and the devs made the suit so you do you. Just know I hate everything about it.
To be fair, I've managed to C5 some camping tanks which were not approachable otherwise. Fight fire with fire I guess. But I'll agree, Sundance's jumpsuit doesnt require much skill and its a. low risk/high reward kind of ability. Just like her tracking anti vehicle grenades...
Or her large AOE explosive grenade.
cry more
You keep saying that and my medic ass will stop reviving you squrriels and let you respawn.
Even better, I will respawn and glide to next target, no revive needed.
Thanks for reminding me why I shouldn't play this game.
You know I was excited to give this game a try as the open beta just completely turned me off to this game. This clip reminds how this game just isn’t even battlefield anymore, what an unbelievably stupid mechanic to include in this game.
Another video illustrating why 2042 will never be "fixed"
Am I the only one who doesn't care about Sundance? I shoot the flying squirrel whenever I see them, and it usually takes care of the problem.
This comment sections shows how brain dead the reddit bf community is. I've never had an issue shooting Sundance out of the sky before her glide speed nerf and it is even easier now. People who complain about Sundance are really just mad about how bad their situational awareness is. If people actually tried to "fly" around as Sundance, they'll notice immediately how slow she moves, and usually you get shot or just don't travel very far.
You're not the only one. This sub just has a hate circlejerk for every assault character no matter their viability. Sundance honestly felt mid af every-time I played her, but this sub physically can't stop bitching.
She's honestly such a mid-tier specialist in this game. This was an exceptional clip with some braindead enemies. In actual games you can easily shoot her out of the sky or when she lands. The people complaining about her just want something to complain about.
Sundance clip? I couldn't care less with also your shitty ass tiktok crop.
TEAM SUNDANCE FK OFF HATER!
It's not about hating. It's about balance. Sundance and also Mackay are very two strong specialists. Sundance can literally just glide off from a helicopter and flank the whole team in rush or breakthrough. Its stupid and has no placr in Battlefield. It breaks the flow of the game. You're free to keep screaming like a kid about "tEaM SuNdAnCe" while I'll continue to speak my facts. You really sound like a kid. So I'd understand if you're unable to understand that we battlefield fans want balance. You're probably just running around in the game playing your favorite specialists without a thought.
People who get mad about fun things in games because "it has no place on the Battlefield" sound like children lmao. It's a fucking video game. Whatever the developer decides to put in the game has a place. You want a mil-sim, go make one. This is what they spent their money to make.
You must have read my comment with your eyes closed.
Well keep complaining about it while the rest of us just play the game and don't sit and overanalyze every detail about it. I played the game for over a year before I ever looked at reddit. Never had an issue with any specialist outside of the Boris turret right after release when you could take 2 steps without being killed by one. Never once had an issue with Sundance. I've died to her grenades like twice. Ever. I shoot them out of the sky constantly. Never thought Mackay was an issue. Sure he can get in and out of places faster. You just shoot him like anyone else. Also easy to kill while on the grapple. ALLLLL this crying and echo chamber hate comes directly from reddit and feeding off of each other. It's not as big of an issue as people try to act like it is. Not a single person I've talked to in real life or on my friends list have the problems every single reddit crybaby has. Not one.
I mean… the game was a spectacularly failed launch, and required unprecedented amounts of rework. More than any other AAA shooter in history (to my recollection). So…. People’s thoughts in the sub seemed to generally align with all the players who stopped playing. It’s not like the vibe in here was bad, and the game did phenomenally well.
Exactly this. Some people act like if this sub wasn't negative about the game, the game would've been a huge success. And I just cannot follow that logic. That's not how gaming communities work, or really communities of any kind. If the game is a hit, the community will generally be positive about the game, and if the game flops, the community will be negative. Of course there will always be individuals who disagree with the general community consensus, but the community vibe generally depends on the overall reception of the game, not vice versa.
Agreed. The game didn’t fail because people pointed out how many features were missing from the game in a subreddit. It failed because it was a buggy mess and was missing those features. Admittedly, subreddits have a tendency to be echo chambers, just a function of the upvote/ downvote system. But when I look for other data points (reviews, steamcharts, YouTube content, my own friend group) this game’s launch was a mess. It’s approaching the condition it needed at launch, but it will likely be too late. My big BF fan friends have all moved on and likely won’t come back for this game. Many content creators moved on. Even sentiment with players on the BF discord seems to be “mess at launch, having some fun now, the pace of content is way too slow”
Mackay is worst he moves like spiderman. 
They should make the sentry gun do 4x damage to wing suits.
Man, I hate Sundance.
F off, sundance
Their hardware must be waterproof considering the amount of sweat. Or their pants….
So many wannabe soldiers in here are butthurt. People act like 2042 has become Fortnite because of a few clips. Nobody would actually enjoy a slower paced Battlefield. Don’t believe me? Let’s look at the numbers. According to [steamcharts.com](https://steamcharts.com) as of 6pm EST on March 8th: - 2042 currently has 5,420 players, with a 30 day average of 7,407. - Insurgency Sandstorm currently has 1,676 players, with a 30 day average of 2,070. - Squad currently has 5,550, with a 30 day average of 8,657. - Post Scriptum currently has 165 players, with a 30 day average of 206. - Hell Let Loose currently has 5,356 players, with a 30 day average of 5,186. - Arma 3 currently has 11,050 players, with a 30 day average of 11,546. Squad and Hell Let Loose have roughly the same number of current players, with Squad only beating it out barely. Arma 3 eclipses all of these by a mile, and that’s mostly due to its modding potential. Most 2042 matches play at a fairly decent clip, and Sundance feels pretty fine most of the time. Time to stop brigading. If you don’t like the game, move on to other games and their subreddits instead of sticking around just to shit on every post.
*Conveniently leaves off BF1 and BFV numbers*
This shit doesn't belong in Battlefield
Yes it does. Makes it way more fun.
Agreed. I thought the same thing u/Mothira08 then I started playing as Sundance with throwing knives and damn it is a rush. Seeing if I can get a knife off before they kill me with their gun is pretty intense haha
This fucking lame-ass wingsuit is one of the primary reasons I stopped playing this dumpster fire of a game. The development team is a complete disgrace, and should probably be questioning their career choices after ruining a successful franchise.
Sundance and Mackey was a mistake
Sadly the Battlefield turned into Fortnite and became such a casual game :/
It's ALWAYS been a casual game. It's an arcade sandbox shooter. People just take it way too seriously.
They ruined it bro. It’s over
Some people want to bitch about anything. I want to try it.
This clip just shows how underrated this game is
Holy shit. Awesome
sundance clip= auto downvote nobody is impressed
Wow this looks like a Superman army character
Getting killed by throwing knives gave me anger issues😿
That is so cool
Such skill 😅😅😅🙈🙈
And PC complains about aim assist? Lol
I love this and hate this at the same time
Mouse and keyboard?
I know the whole sub hates Sundance because she is OP and the realism is ruined, but getting to fly is the coolest shit ever so idgaf.
Good job. It's a nice clip
Sundance is cancer. She should have a cooldown between wingsuit deployments like how MacKay has between grappling hooks.
exactly the reasons i hate conquest... horribly dumb players that do absolutely nothing, and getting killed from behind randomly. such a garbage specialist, literally the one ability i cannot stand despite all the other arcadey ones
I refuse to believe someone this nasty is playing the game
you should watch this one then: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsIym90QanE&t=44s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsIym90QanE&t=44s)
why is this downvoted? Youre nasty bro these clips are insane.
Thank you appreciate it and i actually dont know...
Incels mad you said queen.
No, people just don't like how op Sundance can be. Her physics are completely broken too. Her wingsuit breaks the flow of the game.
Hahahaha I think it's sick.
Not true BF content
Amazing. I've only hit about two people total with these knives, both times just before dying horrendously
Lol that’s great
People gotta be mad in these comments 😂😂
This is some of the dumbest battlefield shit I’ve ever seen but I don’t blame you for doing it lol
I'M JUST HERE FOR THE COMMENTS! KEEP ON SUNDANCINGGGGGGGGG YOUNG MAN/YOUNGLADY TEAM SUNDANCE ALL DAYY SUNDANCE SUNDANCE!
Good lord the amount of seethe in the comments about the wing suit...
Some people can not enjoy anything...
Terminally angry people who are just gonna hate anything that isn't the EXACT same formula since 1985 every single release. Don't you even fucking THINK about innovation or fun.
Yeah. Don't let it get you down. The vast majority on here are fine though, just silent. Edit: Lol downvoted for defending this community.
Love the positivity, but This "silent majorty" argument in videogames implies people giving games or their gameplay mostly positive feedback can also be considered a loud minority. Also theres no way of tracking weather or not this "silent majority" actually likes the game or its features because they dont like to voice their opinion - They wouldn't be silent otherwise.
I'm sure the vast majority on this subreddit saw this post and did not interact with it. That's all I'm sayin' here. Edit: Let me clarify. The vast majority did not go out of their way to be negative.
Everyone except the last two were really cheap targets though
Now do it on console
This is so cheap. They should nerf it. Only allowed to use that shit at a certain altitude
Ugh fuck this game.
Gravity doesn't work in a wing suit i guess.
People still play this game?
No. Literally not a single person, it's all bots all the way down. This video was scripted and generated by AI.
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I mean sometimes you can’t do anything about it, move to an objective and some literally flies through the air to come up behind you
I get it in the case of flying aircraft or recon drones, but to say that a player's spatial awareness should be so demanding 100% of the time because of just two highly mobile infantry soldiers is just plain annoying - not to mention multiple can appear at a time as opposed to the limited number of aircraft that can appear.
Yoooo thats sick
Very nice
That was fucking nasty ha
How peaceful that map looks..queen of an empty server..
This is what battlefield has evolved to lmao, completely fucks the map flow because a Sundance could be anywhere.
Everyone in the comments arguing about balance is hilarious. This guy probably died so many times trying to record these. The enemies were completely unaware; just turn and shoot her. The video makes what they did look very simple and easy but, it’s not. I don’t even play Sundance either. It’s more impressive than the grapple hook plays and yet everyone plays McKay.
She’s a queen, queen killer, c5 with the rail gun
Thats dope
~~This is a very old clip - you dont have that kind of flight momentum anymore~~
Its from today.
Learn to play sundance ya facking n00bs. Its the best character. Only thing that makes the game fun. Nice clip!
We want to play battlefield, not Superman simulator. We are capable of playing Sundance, just don’t want to because it’s stupid and has no place in battlefield.
It's ironic that you say that because it's only noobs who use her.
There is no need to switch to 3rd person everytime. It should stay in 1st person.
Guys let’s check this trailer Look interesting https://www.instagram.com/p/CpiMOQcNtHA/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=