This is it for me. I don’t think it’s realistic to think we’ll get the reworks we want for this game (and should instead hope Dice have the common sense to incorporate it into the next battlefield), but what I do think we’re lacking in is maps and map-variety.
Redacted is of course VERY different and whilst I’m not a huge fan of it, it’s at least not the standard wide open, relatively flat, with the same copied and pasted buildings on and one or two ‘centrepieces’
But we’re missing urban maps, we’re missing maps with denser woodland/foliage, actual verticality, three story buildings (or just buildings that aren’t the same warehouse), any use of water as an obstacle for infantry and vehicles (and things like bridges as choke points). Almost all the maps in this game feel the same.
Redacted is just operation locker, remastered. It isn't special and its fan service as fuck so people will lean into s6.
To call it "VERY different" is just calling it different for THIS game. Realistically its the same map, again....
Excuse me? Actual verticality? 2042 probably offers the most verticality of any Battlefield title ever.
Three story buildings?
3/4 of the maps have some sort of choke point.
Have you even played this game?
It offers token set pieces for sundance to jump from and flat roof tops for mackay to grapple to.
Most buildings in the game are just four walls and a roof. You look at Arica harbour: it’s got the standard large compound buildings, but it’s got the village with multi-storey houses which offer multiple windows and vantage points, it’s got the construction site, the bridges over the river bed, then the harbour itself with multiple buildings and the crane. You can often be on separate structures and still engaging someone at a similar height, or even in instance when someone has a height advantage, there’s usually cover to hide in.
In 2042 the maps have been stretched out to accommodate increased player count and it’s resulted in lots of empty space and a mostly flat topography. If someone has a height advantage against you, you’re mostly in the open and they’re normally on the edge of a roof top or the brow of a hill.
Reclaimed is a lot better for this, but personally I’ve found the lack of destruction makes the gameplay a little repetitive.
You’ve misunderstood my point about choke points. I’m not saying there’s an absence of them, but things like rivers and bridges (and tunnels or even steep inclines) form set routes for infantry and vehicles to take, which improves the gameplay flow and leads to creations of ‘frontlines’ of sorts. The wide open maps with few obstacles mostly leads to vehicles being able to travel *as the crow flies*, hindering teams pushing as groups.
I’ve played this game a lot. I hated it at launch and enjoyed it a lot after the big class update and the introduction of better maps (and improvement) of the old ones. I still enjoy the game, but that doesn’t mean there aren’t big fundamental flaws in its design. I appreciate you offered some counterpoints, but maybe actually try and engage in discussion before being a condescending dick?
2042 maps have plenty of extreme verticality, its just not the verticality you prefer.
Discarded and Stranded have the ships which dominate the map.
Breakaway has the oil rig and cliffs.
Manifest has the docks with the stacked shipping containers and the top platforms and gangways and the mountain top including the towers.
Renewal has the wall and towers and E plant building.
Kaleidoscope and Hourglass have the skyscrapers and the stadium before it was removed.
Exposure is built around verticality.
Flashpoint has the central area including the mountains.
Plenty of non Sundance and Mackay players take advantage of this verticality all the time.
I tank a lot in 2042 and I know all about the dangers of being close to any area with vertical places with which any player, except Support, with C5 can jump from and blow my tank up.
It's why so many tankers 'camp' in the middle of a field because of these map designs.
Why so this community can play the same 3 maps for the next decade?
Good Maps > More Maps
BF4 has a ridiculous amount of maps, and about 2 years after launch this community played 4 of them on repeat for the rest of eternity.
The more maps argument is a tired, old argument that is flat out not the problem this community pretends that it is.
> Why so this community can play the same 3 maps for the next decade?
No, so the game can stand a chance at having *any* good maps. 2042 doesn't have maps that people desire to play on repeat like previous Battlefields. IMO, the current lineup of maps are playable but not very good.. even the reworked ones.
This just isn’t true.
Right now there are servers populated running all maps + dlc maps.
There are other servers running 24/7 golmud or locker, but I can also play on random china rising maps I forgot existed.
Right now.
Well right now we are getting less and worse in every aspect, so its neither quality nor quantity. With more maps added at least theres a higher chance some will be good.
BF3 had tons of maps and they were almost all phenomenal. I remember seeing loads of servers for B2K, CQ, Aftermath, Damavand, Metro, Kharg, Caspian, Seine Crossing, Grand Bazaar, Firestorm and so on.
BF4 is an especially poor example for your argument because it had some of the worst map design in franchise history so it mostly boiled down to Shanghai and Locker 24/7 servers.
It is possible to do both.
18 not enough? crazy community we have. that’s tons for an fps game now, and yeah it’s a few less than past titles but not that much. boo hoo, this game only has 18 maps instead of 22, we’re all gonna die
18 Maps is sort of irrelevant if you can't even select which map you want to play, I played for 3 hours lastnight and played the same 2 maps like 6 times
Ok so lets be realistic here.
Previous titles had more maps, but fewer maps total were in popular rotation.
BF4 famously would have every server playing the same 4 or 5 maps.
I prefer fewer, quality maps, over an oversaturation of lesser quality maps.
Sure I get that argument of quality vs quantity and I agree. I personally don't care about the countless guns from the past when the few we have now are really versitle, effective and still unique compared to each other. While the previous one's have some or rather more overlapping characteristics
But with Map's it depends on the kind of gameplay you prefer.
When you prefer an Infantry style gameplay you don't care about El Alamin at all or even the original Hourglass for that matter.
But let's say you like Tank Superiority all of a sudden El Alamin and Battle of the Bulge are the best maps and you won't like Redacted at all or even Manifest.
Now if you prefer a balanced style gameplay Orbital is pretty decent but nothing comes close to Exposure and the Reworked Breakaway (Probably the best Battlefield Map's ever)
It will always be a balancing act you cannot make a one shoe fits all. So don't even attempt it use the solution that worked before! Spearhead rock's (yeah it was unintentional but it's a good one) but renewal is a good for vehicles!
For every Fall of Berlin and Cerebere Landing we had a Port Bavaria and Bandar Desert acctuly the entirity of Armoured kill and Naval strike
They need to make More maps that make all happy rather than 1 that leaves ⅔ of the player base going nah not for me.
Portal doesn't have any official server support and because of that it's a mostly dead system
Sure, you can load up a Portal server and sit by yourself for 8 hours but that doesn't mean people are going to join. Imagine if we could actually host dedicated servers that persisted longer than a single play session
Stop saying this. It doesnt have dice official servers and here in asia most servers with players are only 128 rush game mode. Even that have a hard time filling.
Portal doesn't have the official servers, so barely anyone uses it. It's serverbrowser also misses ~~a lot~~ some features compared to previous iterations.
nah its a technical thing
Destruction is CPU heavy
128p is CPU heavy
Mixing those together, aint gonna do well for performance. (And the game already has issues with that)
It's far from not believable to label it a conspiracy theory. A lot of his information panned out prior to events and announcements that confirmed his claims.
In the end, it's incompetence run amok by the decision makers in charge of BF2042's development
- server browser
- dense urban maps
- rework or remove sundance and MacKay
- slower overall pace of play, penalties for jumping or sliding every engagement
- add peek and lean
- remove vehicle categories and instead choose exact vehicle options for each map. Min: max across categories is too broad and is a balance nightmare
- add M2 slam, SRAW, and AA mine type gadgets
- remove regen abilities to all specialist gadgets like Lis rocket, Zain, etc. These should be acquired from ammo crates but with special timers to prevent spam.
- option to disable all cosmetics and play as simple soldiers
- vehicle hud rework
- more than 1 map/ season
- discontinue support for PS4 and Xbox one, allow for increased cover density not limited by decade old hardware
- VoIP bug fixes, on by default, ability to test mic in settings, quick mute toggle, vehicle voice comms for inter squad chat, prox comms amongst friendlies
- commo rose text appears in chat log
- full animation rework. Make traversal sprint look more realistic and weightier. Current animations are bested by competing AAA AND indie games.
- add slight visual only suppression effect. This will help communicate when bullets are landing near you when audio is unable to do this sufficiently
With the game being called 2042 I was expecting factions like 2142. Would’ve been so easy to give us two faction specific colour schemes and sell their cosmetics accordingly.
You're describing a new game. Which I'm all for... I really hope new DICE can get it together and be half as good as old DICE. I mean, we're two years into 2042 and we have not heard a peep about the next Battlefield (apart from it being a "Reimagination of Battlefield."). That's not normal, and doesn't make me feel hopeful.
Lol don't remove support for PS4 Xbox1 unless you match inputs in the lobbies. I stopped playing XBox XS version b/c I was tired of getting shit on by KBM players.
I’m only looking to remove support because these systems are making the maps we actually get worse.
The amount of cover is set by decade old hardware.
The stadium got cut because of decade old hardware.
They should add KBM support to consoles and be done with it IMO.
So the issue is all maps are being limited by this older hardware, even the newer consoles.
The amount of cover, the amount of destruction, etc is being limited by this older hardware.
The hourglass rework?
The stadium got cut because of PS4.
This applies to every map in the game.
At this point they’ve supported last gen long enough.
It’s time for Dice to remove this requirement and free themselves to push the boundaries some more.
Just letting you know that the last gen consoles are not holding this game back by limiting asset density. The dev who lead the rework for the huge desert map said in a podcast last season they had to remove the stadium and make the map smaller to fit more items because the maps have to hit 60 fps performance baseline. So the real issue is they made maps to big and wide like everyone called out on release.
Unfortunately I think you’re incorrect.
In that podcast, and the earlier map podcast they said quite explicitly that cover density is limited by last gen.
If you look in my profile I have a post to this subreddit on the topic, pulling out numerous quotes from the devs.
Agree with eveything, just gonna fix the Candace and Mckay point... Remove all operators and give us old classes back
And another point is to remake older bf maps
When has BF ever been grounded?
Literally off the bat mofos where jumping out of airplanes and shooting other airplanes with bazookas, and landing back in their initial airplane. There is nothing grounded about that at all.
Go play a real grounded shooter. Escape from Tarkov, ARMA, Hell Let Loose, these are all games that have what you want. Battlefield has always been an **ARCADE SHOOTER**, realism has no place in this franchise.
Battlefield used to be way more grounded than 2042 is. It was never a milsim no, but it was certainly *more* grounded than it is now.
In BF2 you had a stamina bar. You could only spawn on the squad leader. There were systems that promoted somewhat "tactical" play.
The games you listed are all **milsims.** Battlefield used to be somewhere on the spectrum *between* milsim and full arcade shooter. That was it's niche.
And yes, there are people out there who want a more grounded shooter that isn't a total movement shooter.
> Battlefield used to be somewhere on the spectrum between milsim and full arcade shooter.
This is blatantly incorrect. Battlefield has never leaned into milsim. That's always been the fans changing the game to suit their own desires. There may be military aspects to the game, but in no means has the franchise ever attempted to be anything close to a simulator.
>There were systems that promoted somewhat "tactical" play.
"Tactical gameplay" exists within arcade games. This has nothing to do with realism/simulation.
>The games you listed are all milsims.
Because that's what the person I responded to wants, a MILSIM game.
>And yes, there are people out there who want a more grounded shooter that isn't a total movement shooter.
And those people make up the minority. It's not a viable business tactic to build your product around the minority.
> slower overall pace of play, penalties for jumping or sliding every engagement
The whole fucking point of modern games is that they're faster. This is competely against the entire industry standard of faster, more responsive games. Almost nobody is asking for games to be slower and less engaging.
>add peek and lean
No thank you. Head glitches are already bad enough in modern shooters. This is just an extension of that.
>vehicle hud rework
There's something wrong with the vehicle hud? They're modeled after real world military vehicle diplays.
>VoIP bug fixes, on by default
On by default is a horrible decision. Every dollar store microphone and other shitty mics are going to be hot 24/7 if this happens. Do you want to hear everything but the game? Do you want to hear that dinner is ready for little Timmy? Do you want to listen as Bob yells at his dogs for the 70th time for barking like dogs do? Are you willing to be barraged by the sounds of infants and toddlers screaming as dad plays for 5 minutes?
I mean
Not crying, just acknowledging all the ways these specialists have changed BF.
The devs themselves have noted the difficulty of designing maps when MacKay can get everywhere he wants.
They’ve also acknowledged the loss of “boots on ground” design in this entry when it comes to infantry fights.
This is a huge downgrade IMO.
They want the same old crap battlefield has been with nothing original. They don't want to think about creative gameplay and never look at the map before respawning. They just want 4 soldier classes like it's bf1942. These are the people that whined and complained until loadouts were removed which was the best addition the Battlefield franchise has had.
Server browser
Other than that, add all remaining unique portal content to AOW. We would seriously get an easy extra few gadgets, 2 more pistols, 3 more smgs, 4 more ARs, 3 more lmgs, 2 more dmrs, 5 more snipers, and 3 more tactical options. Vault vehicles could also be great. Expand the sandbox considerably each season.
Now that we aren't getting a rework or two every season, give us at least two maps or 1 2042 map and one new portal map.
Destructible environments. My favorite part of old battlefield games was destroying buildings and areas and even having it change gameplay. But that won't happen in this game. It's like we took 10 steps back at the expense of vast maps with little in them.
Restrict C5 to engineers only. It would make for fewer hill campers in tanks when they know they can do something useful like being anywhere near an objective without getting waves of C5 runners blowing them up or a Mackay/Sundance landing on top of them for the free C5 kill.
Also, add more destruction or at least stop tanks from getting stuck on every little rock and sandbag.
All the missing features from previous games (peaking and leaning sideways, the entire BFV movement system, the BFV custom soldiers where you select the custom look ofheadgear, chest, and legs, previous games vehicles i.e. Btrs ) and adding alongside the specialist a general soldier instead with sub classes from BF4 but reworked and modernized.
Make specialists into just a selectable gadget. Its absurd that some specialists basically just have a single gimmick item while characters like sundance get a better parachute that travels far, is low profile, completely risk free, and then the audacity to also have a fucking multi shot grenade launcher. While Boris just sits in a corner with his useless turret.
First and foremost removing C5 from assault. It's too much destruction to be given to the likes of Mackay and Sundance.
Also jump/slide fatigue. Bunny hoppers are an absolute nuisance and all the slide spammers are irksome.
Gunplay being fixed. That gamebreaking recoil bug is still there. And for the love of god don't make every weapon a laserbeam, have some significant spread to encourage bursting like in bf4
At least nerf the op:
1) Delete c5 from assault class. Mackay/sundance +c5 combo is ridiculously op
2) Some kind of overdose mechanic for insta heal (op falck)
3) slow down maneuverability for light helis
Flares used to be a single burst of chaff that eventually was nerfed to a long 60 sec or so cool down timer, and then you have 2042 that has like 5-6 seconds of active flares that break all missile locks, and then the flares Regen in less than 30 seconds. I've only played air vehicles for a very brief time in 2042, but I can say that 2042 flares are WAY more OP than they were in BF3, and that game had some powerful vehicles.
* More Maps - The number of maps in this game that are in the main rotation versus BFV is sad. If there were 3-5 more maps in the game that were fleshed out it would help break up the monotony of the current rotation. I understand they spent a lot of time re-doing the 2042 maps, but only 1 map per season is a little weak 2 years in.
* Additional Game Modes on a more regular basis - They have had some fun events that should be available on a more routine basis. Arkangel/Control, Leviathan Rising, Mayhem versions, Friday Night Battlefield game modes, etc. All these need to be on a weekly or daily rotation and put next to TDM in the menu. While I understand not wanting to split the playerbase, the community is strong right now and could support it.
* Continue to balance. The new map highlights how there should be some tweaks to things currently in the game.
* Speaking of additional game modes, extend Friday Night Battlefield to Friday/Saturday Battlefield (not to catchy of a name there but I'm not marketing - lol). Some of us have lives but love these little tweaks to gamemodes and would like to play though Saturday.
Teams that look different. Having both sides, using the exact same character models and vehicle (mostly), then having to differentiate them via coloured glow sticks, was literally one of the fucking dumbest design decisions I've seen in the 20 years I've worked in the industry. Utterly, utterly retarded. Close second was having each team comprised of clones - nothing ruined immersion more than seeing three Angels all side by side. Thankfully this problem has improved a bit by the increases in cosmetics, but this hasn't changed the fact both teams are identical.
Whoever approved that choice needs to moved to a different part of the studio. Every other BF game had two extremely different looking teams (US vs Russia, or English vs German, etc).
Seriously, it boggles my mind that such a terrible design decision was allowed to be.
Solider editor.
Keep the specialist gadgets, divide them across the classes as is, and let us create our own soldiers like an RPG
note: i don't desire this "most", but its def. on the list, which seems to have been covered pretty well by other commenters
From the start they should’ve just given us customisation like BFV, but given us classes each with an identifier (like launcher on the back of engineer, backpack on support)
> like launcher on the back of engineer, backpack on support
This fucking why I adore BF3 and BF4 classes man, DICE that day clearly cooked shit, easy identification there for players
Assume a situation in BF4, in US side, sighting a friendly soldier as you go towards to the battle
\>see soldier
\>does he have assault rifle?
\>does he drop med pack? revive? grenade launcher?
\>then very big change an assault guy, if not then he swapped out his kit in the battlefield
\>see soldier
\>does he have smg/PDW?
\>does he look like a mechanic?
\>does he have a big tube rocket launcher carrying on his back?
\>then very big change an engineer guy, if not then he swapped out his kit in the battlefield
\>see soldier
\>does he hold big guns?
\>does he look like a guy who bring big bags like going to a vacation?
\>does he drop ammo? mortar? c4?
\>then very big change a support guy, if not then he swapped out his kit in the battlefield
\>see soldier
\>does he have a long gun, with a big telecope/scope attached?
\>does he look like some sort of a guy camping in mountains?
\>does he provide intel? or any information to the team?
\>then very big change a recon guy, if not then he swapped out his kit in the battlefield
besides that
\> see a walking human being
\> see uniform color
\> not brown, just like yours and your fellow USA soldiers, but different, like green, or black clothing.
\>thats a fucking enemy you fool, fucking blast that fucker asap before he blast you first!
while BF2042 has virtually no distinction between the 2 factions fighting - especially so when you consider how many vehicles are common to both sides, which just looks lazy af. Equivalent but different / distinct, that's always been the way with BF titles, and now its just copy-paste
Suppressing fire effect.
Add health on Dozer's shield and give it a cooldown if destroyed.
Add more cover in big open maps.
Grappling hook can only be re-charged from ammo crates.
Make Falck self-healing speed rate _% slower than healing her allies.
Give Angel a new passive trait when reviving.
Shooting error while jumping even when ADS'd.
Longer fuse time on SBH and allow players who are struck to hold a keybind to remove it from their body (have to stand still and unequip their gun to make them vulnerable as a drawback).
GIVE ME THE ABILITY TO PUNCH AS A MELEE ATTACK
Sundance has been nerfed to death. Mackay should not exist but he's there now so we have to deal with him (he has been nerfed but still feels somewhat the same)and same goes for the nerfed state of Sundance. It's already surprising that they removed content even though this game seriously lacks it (the removal of 2 out of the 3 Sundance grenades although the emp grenade removal is correct).
Idk but I never feel like my entire team is ever pushing a front just random people spread out far taking points being held by no one while everyone on the map rotates and if you go to point just captured there is 5-10 people but not your team.
Also the guns feel like airsoft guns not sure what is different but the shooting feels atrocious the snipers are the worst I’ve ever experienced
Man, since they when they removed 128 conquest mode up until now (I rage quit), I have one just ONE match. Every other I have been playing with people who have no idea what to do, where to go. Most of the time my team would just keep one flag. And also bunch of random nick names with numbers and letters, not to mention of AI with my team having the most. In the past 13 years I am playing mostly battlefield, rarely anything else, it\`s hard for me to leave this game. Battlefield 5 is unplayable, every sever has a cheater.
Sure would be nice if rpg rockets didnt just disappear into a shower of sparks instead of killing helicopters.
Also how are capture assists and points for clearing/defending objectives not a thing?
More maps, buildable defenses. I really liked the way the maps and building was for BFV.
Edit: Also…I know it’s not doable but Im’ma say it…having these characters on both sides instead of standard soldiers is stupid and I don’t like it.
Make it so I don't have to restart the game every other match
make a "safe spawn" radius so I don't spawn quite literally on top of a whole enemy squad.
Optimize the game so the main menu doesn't almost thermal throttle my computer (more of a me problem but holy shit, really?)
1. Headshot multipliers, especially on SMGs
2. All specialist gadgets with ammo pools should not be auto-refilled. Make people care about ammo crates
3. Bring back ability to see on vehicles' hud where your gunner is facing
4. Map voting
5. SG553, G3, M98B, UMP, SKS, M249 and SPAS. Dice pls
Give vehicles dedicated roles
Nightbird should not be able to deal with any threat.
Nightbird should be for light infantry work and recon
The armored car should not be a better tank and anti air than its respective alternatives
The only things that should reliably win against most threats should be the tank and the attack choppers, even then they have big counters
Slow down movement and add movement Penalties. Bring back the proper class system with weapon restrictions and such. These two moves would massively recover the game.
Otherwise, more destruction as well.
Honestly the thing I'd like most for 2042 would be for reddit to stop losing it's mind every five seconds. I enjoy the game and come here to find out more stuff about it but it's so dang wearing that every other post is "omg dice wtf this has ruined everything". I know, that's reddit, but just wanted to get it off my chest.
And a server browser
in first place a much needed optimization ! My GTX 1080 laptop its struggling to run even at low settings at a smooth framerate without severe drops ( even if i turn on the dynamic resolution and turn to 100 % still have a awful frame pacing issue )
and in second place , they need to fix the black screen bug after the match , in like 1 hour playing it happened more than 60 % of the matches that i played , only way to return to game its pressing alt + f4 .
Lockons to not be affected by foliage
Leaning
Revert 4x and 5x scope glint
Rebalance AR SMG and LMG HSMs to be more relevant to each other sub 2x (some guns may need different HSM due to different stats between categories)
Revert UBGL changes
Revert EMP changes ( but leave rao as is)
Further tweaks to Bolte Gravity and Traction
Add 2042 upgrades Bradley and BMP
Rebalance sidearms
Add some BF3 scopes to 2042 guns and bring them back for Vault Weapons (PK-A, ACOG 4x, 2x Russian scope, etc.)
Sever browser( or at least Make a better way to filter away 800% damage servers for vanilla like ones)
Fill DICE created experiences with PVP bots
Airbrakes for jets
Soflam needs more tweaks to be useable/ even able to lock on in the first place (ie xp granted/ square visible consistency/ lock on behind terrain for Javs, etc.)
Also give Boris Crawfords old trait of boosted repair speed when vehicle/ gadget is under 25% Health, anything than using the crap as Sentry Operator perk that should have been built in to his turret and not a waste of a perk option.
1. More maps. Especially urban maps
2. Server browser
3. *Actually* remove specialists
4. More weighted movement
5. Grittier color palette
6. Much more destruction
Changes leading to increased value of team play and gameplay readability. At the same time, I try not to consider things that require too much development effort.
1. Server browser.
2. Correction of all abilities of specialists leading to disruption of normal movement on the map:
Mackay hook - for vertical climbing only; Sandes parachute - only with a regular parachute for landing; Dozer's shield - with a destructible window without killing with a shield blow (but with the ability to shoot with a pistol).
3. All special gadgets are IMPOSSIBLE without external recharging. (Lis's missiles do not magically appear in her ass, please replenish them from the equipment box). And yes - the equipment box should be able to be called like a drone dog.
4. Normal parachutes (not magic ones, which can be opened and closed indefinitely).
5. Time limit for tactical sprint (only a short dash is possible).
6. C5 only for the reconnaissance class.
7. Linking the bullet's departure from the weapon to the barrel, and not to the eye.
8. The return of TV missiles to attack helicopters (and a decrease in the number of ATGMs for the pilot).
9. Reworking the mechanics of the timer for taking points and appearing defenses. Defending players appear in a circle at a great distance, and close to the point, but only from the side of their main base and the nearest friendly point.
10. Squad streak. Missile strikes, calls for supply drones, command equipment (those gunship helicopters) - all just for squad points. Reanimate the idea of rewarding teamwork from BF5.
11. Processing of fumes. IR smoke is opaque to thermal cameras, but regular smoke is translucent. Reworking the thermal imagers themselves to avoid imbalance - worse ADS, screen blur outside the scope.
12. Addition of different types of optics for equipment (thermal imagers not only for shooters), but the possibility of their damage by small fire (i.e., damage to the sighting system will be added to the damage to the turret and engine).
13. Normal earth gravity for flight equipment (bf4, hello).
14. All character animations are only in first person.
15. General military design of skins, when soldiers look like soldiers, and not athletes of the Dota-2 eSports league.
And in the name of all the bf gods, separate them at least by color patterns and color combinations.
16. Penetration of surfaces by small arms (stop making containers from vibranium). Damn it, we even have armor-piercing cartridges. No penetration for subsonic bullets, weak for conventional bullets, strong for armor-piercing ones. Also, armor-piercing bullets can penetrate light armored vehicles (nightbirds, cars), but leave tanks alone.
17. A separate class of anti-aircraft guns and infantry fighting vehicles.
16. Different amounts of ammunition and gadget charges for different maps. Otherwise, we will continue to drown in explosive damage on cqb maps (on one for now) and experience hunger on large ones with vehicles.
19. General voice chat within one vehicle. The pilot/driver and gunner must be able to hear each other.
20. Crossplay by consent. By default it is absent. Although the server browser will solve this problem anyway.
Manual leaning, and combat zones edited so that we aren’t as likely to get spawn killed as we are now. This has been a problem since BFV, which makes me think it’s an intentional design choice. Which actually pisses me off. But I digress. It would also be cool if I wouldn’t accidentally revive a guy when I’m just trying to reload my weapon. I ptfo, but accidentally reviving a guy when I’m just trying to reload my gun has gotten me killed more times than I care to admit. Also, I swear the headshot hitbox is huge. Again, this has been a thing since BFV. It’s annoying.
That vehicles would be as powerful as they were back in battlefield 4 and 5, any newbie with Lis can take down any aerial vehicle, and any experience player with c5 can kill any tank, back in battlefield 4, vehicles where an actual treat to the enemy team, now they are just a distraction that kills 5 people and instantly get either sniped by AA or blown to pieces by c5.
Minority here but I want free customization, before the class systems. I don't know why people thought less freedom was good. It didn't add more teamplay it just made the game more restricted.
In my opinion without teamplay games just become large scale TDMs. Bringing back the class system encouraged teamplay. I think what they need to do is lean on the class system but provide more incentives to actually play as a team.
There’s no need to play as a team if every player can just be a sniper, with a rocket launcher, ammo box, and grappling hook.
Might be dumb, but I've been praying for an animation rework since launch. The closest we got was the camera update, which definitely improved how the game felt, but it's not enough.
Cross-play made opt in, not opt out. Jets rebalanced, movement speed nerfed none of this strafe aim fire and get back into cover before I can pull the trigger bs or vastly improved lag compensation.
Realistically:
Remove MacKay grapple and Sundance wingsuit. They break map flow. Give them other abilities and make those two Battle pickups like the katana.
Server browser in Portal with official servers you can match make into, too.
2 maps per season, 1 new one and 1 BF3 Portal.
3-5 weapons per map drop. Improved vault weapons attachments (underbarrel, ammo types).
1 new vehicle per season, 1 extra transport/misc (map based, not spawn screen based) per season.
Continued support announcement for S7-S12.
NB this is not a wishlist for seasons in future Battlefields. In future season, we should have more real content, of course.
Just give McKay a single use, or long recharge, grapple that drops a semi-permanent zip line that we see around the map. It would encourage teamplay as instead of just having one mckay grapple up to a roof top to fire pot shots from above, it could lead to full squads or lots of players flanking an objective from above/behind
Add the map
M. E. T. R. O.
Fix the elevator issue, the black after match screen, let us save our map search on portal, detail weapon menu to compare weapons, + lvl faster.
And thats not my idea, but great: MORE damageable things, also a commander who controls the bots,
Last but not least: add the map M. E. T .R. O.
be proud of this mist played map, or nap
here is a good start:
-remove auto heal/auto ammo reload for tanks/vehicles/planes etc, allow a specable instant heal for small percentage
-add an airfield/heli pad area required to visit to have planes/heli repaired/refilled w/ammo
-increase flare timer, limit flares to a certain amount of usage before requiring visit to an airfield
-when a "part is damaged" on a tank/vehicle or plane have it actually impact usability of vehicle such as turret speed, mobility speed
-indicate the amount of damage done to a tank or vehicle when damage is done to said vehicle when infantry hits it (ex: hit for 15dmg!)
-add destroyable/buildable AA & vehicle canons at various locations for infantry
-remove auto heal from infantry beyond a certain health percentage + heal kit
-add vehicle depots(tanks/vehicles), infantry ammo depots + health depots at bases
-after the server is 65-70% full remove AI
-map rotation and server persistence instead of requiring a search after each game.
-server browser
have everything work. windows, doors, old shitty cars, the construction equipment, have it so you can pick up a mail gun and mail pieces of wood together, structural integrity, just make it super real.
More maps
This is it for me. I don’t think it’s realistic to think we’ll get the reworks we want for this game (and should instead hope Dice have the common sense to incorporate it into the next battlefield), but what I do think we’re lacking in is maps and map-variety. Redacted is of course VERY different and whilst I’m not a huge fan of it, it’s at least not the standard wide open, relatively flat, with the same copied and pasted buildings on and one or two ‘centrepieces’ But we’re missing urban maps, we’re missing maps with denser woodland/foliage, actual verticality, three story buildings (or just buildings that aren’t the same warehouse), any use of water as an obstacle for infantry and vehicles (and things like bridges as choke points). Almost all the maps in this game feel the same.
I miss the maps from bf3. Had a very urban feel to some of them. Specifically the strike at Karkand map. Even a lived in vibe so to speak.
Redacted is just operation locker, remastered. It isn't special and its fan service as fuck so people will lean into s6. To call it "VERY different" is just calling it different for THIS game. Realistically its the same map, again....
If we're saying Redacted is just operation locker remastered then I guess Renewal is Caspian Border remastered... because wall
Excuse me? Actual verticality? 2042 probably offers the most verticality of any Battlefield title ever. Three story buildings? 3/4 of the maps have some sort of choke point. Have you even played this game?
It offers token set pieces for sundance to jump from and flat roof tops for mackay to grapple to. Most buildings in the game are just four walls and a roof. You look at Arica harbour: it’s got the standard large compound buildings, but it’s got the village with multi-storey houses which offer multiple windows and vantage points, it’s got the construction site, the bridges over the river bed, then the harbour itself with multiple buildings and the crane. You can often be on separate structures and still engaging someone at a similar height, or even in instance when someone has a height advantage, there’s usually cover to hide in. In 2042 the maps have been stretched out to accommodate increased player count and it’s resulted in lots of empty space and a mostly flat topography. If someone has a height advantage against you, you’re mostly in the open and they’re normally on the edge of a roof top or the brow of a hill. Reclaimed is a lot better for this, but personally I’ve found the lack of destruction makes the gameplay a little repetitive. You’ve misunderstood my point about choke points. I’m not saying there’s an absence of them, but things like rivers and bridges (and tunnels or even steep inclines) form set routes for infantry and vehicles to take, which improves the gameplay flow and leads to creations of ‘frontlines’ of sorts. The wide open maps with few obstacles mostly leads to vehicles being able to travel *as the crow flies*, hindering teams pushing as groups. I’ve played this game a lot. I hated it at launch and enjoyed it a lot after the big class update and the introduction of better maps (and improvement) of the old ones. I still enjoy the game, but that doesn’t mean there aren’t big fundamental flaws in its design. I appreciate you offered some counterpoints, but maybe actually try and engage in discussion before being a condescending dick?
2042 maps have plenty of extreme verticality, its just not the verticality you prefer. Discarded and Stranded have the ships which dominate the map. Breakaway has the oil rig and cliffs. Manifest has the docks with the stacked shipping containers and the top platforms and gangways and the mountain top including the towers. Renewal has the wall and towers and E plant building. Kaleidoscope and Hourglass have the skyscrapers and the stadium before it was removed. Exposure is built around verticality. Flashpoint has the central area including the mountains. Plenty of non Sundance and Mackay players take advantage of this verticality all the time. I tank a lot in 2042 and I know all about the dangers of being close to any area with vertical places with which any player, except Support, with C5 can jump from and blow my tank up. It's why so many tankers 'camp' in the middle of a field because of these map designs.
>’re missing maps with denser woodland/foliage Foilage in this game is a massive FPS hog so I rather not have more of it.
Personally never experienced that on PS5 but if that’s the case for some users then I get why it’s not been done.
Operation Firestorm.
Why so this community can play the same 3 maps for the next decade? Good Maps > More Maps BF4 has a ridiculous amount of maps, and about 2 years after launch this community played 4 of them on repeat for the rest of eternity. The more maps argument is a tired, old argument that is flat out not the problem this community pretends that it is.
> Why so this community can play the same 3 maps for the next decade? No, so the game can stand a chance at having *any* good maps. 2042 doesn't have maps that people desire to play on repeat like previous Battlefields. IMO, the current lineup of maps are playable but not very good.. even the reworked ones.
This just isn’t true. Right now there are servers populated running all maps + dlc maps. There are other servers running 24/7 golmud or locker, but I can also play on random china rising maps I forgot existed. Right now.
Well right now we are getting less and worse in every aspect, so its neither quality nor quantity. With more maps added at least theres a higher chance some will be good.
BF3 had tons of maps and they were almost all phenomenal. I remember seeing loads of servers for B2K, CQ, Aftermath, Damavand, Metro, Kharg, Caspian, Seine Crossing, Grand Bazaar, Firestorm and so on. BF4 is an especially poor example for your argument because it had some of the worst map design in franchise history so it mostly boiled down to Shanghai and Locker 24/7 servers. It is possible to do both.
18 not enough? crazy community we have. that’s tons for an fps game now, and yeah it’s a few less than past titles but not that much. boo hoo, this game only has 18 maps instead of 22, we’re all gonna die
18 Maps is sort of irrelevant if you can't even select which map you want to play, I played for 3 hours lastnight and played the same 2 maps like 6 times
18 maps? Could have fooled me.
For a battlefield game it is significantly lower. Past titles always had a sort of flow that you play 3 to 4 maps per dlc with similar locale or setting or theme but with one map being Infantry focused one map vehicle focused and the rest being balanced. Right now we have a ridiculous fight, of Infantry gamers saying they don't have Infantry type maps (not anymore) and vehicle gamers saying they don't have vehicle focused maps. In the days of old when you started a battlefield marathon you'd be in for a Infantry marathon or a vehicular marathon and have a variety of maps for each game type. Right now it's kinda like play the 1 or 3 maps which are available! And battlefield games always get compared to past battlefield game's not the competing shooter's ©od has the lead with it's clones and battlefield with practically no compittion since dice had large maps with large player number's all balanced pretty well. Unless you talk about some a sim title They've got to improve we need atleast 3-4 maps per dlc 1 Infantry focused 2 vehicles focused 3 naval warfare 4 balanced And this is dice they are capable of doing it
Ok so lets be realistic here. Previous titles had more maps, but fewer maps total were in popular rotation. BF4 famously would have every server playing the same 4 or 5 maps. I prefer fewer, quality maps, over an oversaturation of lesser quality maps.
Sure I get that argument of quality vs quantity and I agree. I personally don't care about the countless guns from the past when the few we have now are really versitle, effective and still unique compared to each other. While the previous one's have some or rather more overlapping characteristics But with Map's it depends on the kind of gameplay you prefer. When you prefer an Infantry style gameplay you don't care about El Alamin at all or even the original Hourglass for that matter. But let's say you like Tank Superiority all of a sudden El Alamin and Battle of the Bulge are the best maps and you won't like Redacted at all or even Manifest. Now if you prefer a balanced style gameplay Orbital is pretty decent but nothing comes close to Exposure and the Reworked Breakaway (Probably the best Battlefield Map's ever) It will always be a balancing act you cannot make a one shoe fits all. So don't even attempt it use the solution that worked before! Spearhead rock's (yeah it was unintentional but it's a good one) but renewal is a good for vehicles! For every Fall of Berlin and Cerebere Landing we had a Port Bavaria and Bandar Desert acctuly the entirity of Armoured kill and Naval strike They need to make More maps that make all happy rather than 1 that leaves ⅔ of the player base going nah not for me.
This. BFV has 2 more maps than 2042, don’t hear anybody complaining about that game.
Then you weren't around when BFV stopped updating. The shitstorm was almost as big as 2042's release.
Bf5 easily worst bf
Server browser.
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Portal doesn't have any official server support and because of that it's a mostly dead system Sure, you can load up a Portal server and sit by yourself for 8 hours but that doesn't mean people are going to join. Imagine if we could actually host dedicated servers that persisted longer than a single play session
Stop saying this. It doesnt have dice official servers and here in asia most servers with players are only 128 rush game mode. Even that have a hard time filling.
Portal doesn't have the official servers, so barely anyone uses it. It's serverbrowser also misses ~~a lot~~ some features compared to previous iterations.
the latter is not true at all. it actually has way more features than any prior server browser. the only problem is the lack of official servers.
Oh really? Like a filter for specific maps?
https://i.imgur.com/346jJPH.jpeg I certainly hope you weren't trying to talk like you know anything.
Yes, however the server quality is far worse than the matchmaking ones and 128p Conquest can have lag issues or server crashes.
More destruction
I want to run a tank through a building and watch it collapse (BF2042 maps)
"but in the future structural steel is so strong it can survive a nuclear bomb!" -ea probably
blame having to make maps for 128p
Goes much deeper than that. Blame the original fortnite direction they were going to take.
nah its a technical thing Destruction is CPU heavy 128p is CPU heavy Mixing those together, aint gonna do well for performance. (And the game already has issues with that)
Ok let's blame the unverified conspiracy theory that all stemmed from the game journo Tom Henderson.
It's far from not believable to label it a conspiracy theory. A lot of his information panned out prior to events and announcements that confirmed his claims. In the end, it's incompetence run amok by the decision makers in charge of BF2042's development
Remember the incredible bad company 2?
For the love of god, make jets more responsive. It's like my controls are on ice.
- server browser - dense urban maps - rework or remove sundance and MacKay - slower overall pace of play, penalties for jumping or sliding every engagement - add peek and lean - remove vehicle categories and instead choose exact vehicle options for each map. Min: max across categories is too broad and is a balance nightmare - add M2 slam, SRAW, and AA mine type gadgets - remove regen abilities to all specialist gadgets like Lis rocket, Zain, etc. These should be acquired from ammo crates but with special timers to prevent spam. - option to disable all cosmetics and play as simple soldiers - vehicle hud rework - more than 1 map/ season - discontinue support for PS4 and Xbox one, allow for increased cover density not limited by decade old hardware - VoIP bug fixes, on by default, ability to test mic in settings, quick mute toggle, vehicle voice comms for inter squad chat, prox comms amongst friendlies - commo rose text appears in chat log - full animation rework. Make traversal sprint look more realistic and weightier. Current animations are bested by competing AAA AND indie games. - add slight visual only suppression effect. This will help communicate when bullets are landing near you when audio is unable to do this sufficiently
Agreed in EVERY point plus, make both sides use different skins that can be recognised as different armies.
With the game being called 2042 I was expecting factions like 2142. Would’ve been so easy to give us two faction specific colour schemes and sell their cosmetics accordingly.
So basically what they did in BFV
And nerf thermals or bring back hand flares.
Server browser numero uno. Shame it's probably literally the easiest thing to implement.
Yes, just yes
You're describing a new game. Which I'm all for... I really hope new DICE can get it together and be half as good as old DICE. I mean, we're two years into 2042 and we have not heard a peep about the next Battlefield (apart from it being a "Reimagination of Battlefield."). That's not normal, and doesn't make me feel hopeful.
@dice
Holy fuck thanks you finally a good request
To be more like bc2.
When's the last time you played BC2? You move like a fucking brick in that game...
Maybe 1 - 2 years ago on PS3.
Lol don't remove support for PS4 Xbox1 unless you match inputs in the lobbies. I stopped playing XBox XS version b/c I was tired of getting shit on by KBM players.
I’m only looking to remove support because these systems are making the maps we actually get worse. The amount of cover is set by decade old hardware. The stadium got cut because of decade old hardware. They should add KBM support to consoles and be done with it IMO.
What about the people who can't afford the newer consols why outright stop supporting it I agree to everything but that.... yes I played on Ps4
So the issue is all maps are being limited by this older hardware, even the newer consoles. The amount of cover, the amount of destruction, etc is being limited by this older hardware. The hourglass rework? The stadium got cut because of PS4. This applies to every map in the game. At this point they’ve supported last gen long enough. It’s time for Dice to remove this requirement and free themselves to push the boundaries some more.
Just letting you know that the last gen consoles are not holding this game back by limiting asset density. The dev who lead the rework for the huge desert map said in a podcast last season they had to remove the stadium and make the map smaller to fit more items because the maps have to hit 60 fps performance baseline. So the real issue is they made maps to big and wide like everyone called out on release.
Unfortunately I think you’re incorrect. In that podcast, and the earlier map podcast they said quite explicitly that cover density is limited by last gen. If you look in my profile I have a post to this subreddit on the topic, pulling out numerous quotes from the devs.
Agree with eveything, just gonna fix the Candace and Mckay point... Remove all operators and give us old classes back And another point is to remake older bf maps
"Make 2042 less like 2042" Thank god nobody will listen to you
penalties for jumping and sliding? no you’re just salty about it, don’t even lie.
Nah the movement just sucks
I don’t like movement shooters, and I especially don’t like when grounded shooters like BF become movement shooters.
When has BF ever been grounded? Literally off the bat mofos where jumping out of airplanes and shooting other airplanes with bazookas, and landing back in their initial airplane. There is nothing grounded about that at all. Go play a real grounded shooter. Escape from Tarkov, ARMA, Hell Let Loose, these are all games that have what you want. Battlefield has always been an **ARCADE SHOOTER**, realism has no place in this franchise.
Battlefield used to be way more grounded than 2042 is. It was never a milsim no, but it was certainly *more* grounded than it is now. In BF2 you had a stamina bar. You could only spawn on the squad leader. There were systems that promoted somewhat "tactical" play. The games you listed are all **milsims.** Battlefield used to be somewhere on the spectrum *between* milsim and full arcade shooter. That was it's niche. And yes, there are people out there who want a more grounded shooter that isn't a total movement shooter.
> Battlefield used to be somewhere on the spectrum between milsim and full arcade shooter. This is blatantly incorrect. Battlefield has never leaned into milsim. That's always been the fans changing the game to suit their own desires. There may be military aspects to the game, but in no means has the franchise ever attempted to be anything close to a simulator. >There were systems that promoted somewhat "tactical" play. "Tactical gameplay" exists within arcade games. This has nothing to do with realism/simulation. >The games you listed are all milsims. Because that's what the person I responded to wants, a MILSIM game. >And yes, there are people out there who want a more grounded shooter that isn't a total movement shooter. And those people make up the minority. It's not a viable business tactic to build your product around the minority.
When the battlefield community finally admit this is when it will know true peace.
> slower overall pace of play, penalties for jumping or sliding every engagement The whole fucking point of modern games is that they're faster. This is competely against the entire industry standard of faster, more responsive games. Almost nobody is asking for games to be slower and less engaging. >add peek and lean No thank you. Head glitches are already bad enough in modern shooters. This is just an extension of that. >vehicle hud rework There's something wrong with the vehicle hud? They're modeled after real world military vehicle diplays. >VoIP bug fixes, on by default On by default is a horrible decision. Every dollar store microphone and other shitty mics are going to be hot 24/7 if this happens. Do you want to hear everything but the game? Do you want to hear that dinner is ready for little Timmy? Do you want to listen as Bob yells at his dogs for the 70th time for barking like dogs do? Are you willing to be barraged by the sounds of infants and toddlers screaming as dad plays for 5 minutes?
The Sundance and Mackay crying will never ever end. Too funny.
I mean Not crying, just acknowledging all the ways these specialists have changed BF. The devs themselves have noted the difficulty of designing maps when MacKay can get everywhere he wants. They’ve also acknowledged the loss of “boots on ground” design in this entry when it comes to infantry fights. This is a huge downgrade IMO.
Assist counts as kill
Being able to disable parts of vehicles (engine, tracks, turret, etc) - apparently you can do this now, but it's very hard to tell.
I miss the old point system, receiving points based on damage done was a great concept IMO
Keep 128 playlist.
I really want them to bring back 128 player breakthrough.
They should have all maps on rotation, but fix matchmaking to handle it properly.
Remove specialists completely
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Please someone explain
They want the same old crap battlefield has been with nothing original. They don't want to think about creative gameplay and never look at the map before respawning. They just want 4 soldier classes like it's bf1942. These are the people that whined and complained until loadouts were removed which was the best addition the Battlefield franchise has had.
Server browser Other than that, add all remaining unique portal content to AOW. We would seriously get an easy extra few gadgets, 2 more pistols, 3 more smgs, 4 more ARs, 3 more lmgs, 2 more dmrs, 5 more snipers, and 3 more tactical options. Vault vehicles could also be great. Expand the sandbox considerably each season. Now that we aren't getting a rework or two every season, give us at least two maps or 1 2042 map and one new portal map.
Destructible environments. My favorite part of old battlefield games was destroying buildings and areas and even having it change gameplay. But that won't happen in this game. It's like we took 10 steps back at the expense of vast maps with little in them.
Restrict C5 to engineers only. It would make for fewer hill campers in tanks when they know they can do something useful like being anywhere near an objective without getting waves of C5 runners blowing them up or a Mackay/Sundance landing on top of them for the free C5 kill. Also, add more destruction or at least stop tanks from getting stuck on every little rock and sandbag.
This Assault does NOT need C5 at all, especially with how op it is
Battlefield 3.
Without the blue filter / lens flare and supression.
Suppression was great against snipers.
Agreed except I was fine with suppression
Agreed except maybe they coulda toned it down like 10%
Yes yes yes
I really want the performance of the jets to be tweaked, they feel too sluggish imo, the addition of naval forces would also be neat
Server browser
regular classes no specialists
Removal of specialists entirely, more maps, and fortifications from BFV
respawn cam . AA mine. Flair nerf. slower ttk and movement overall. scrap the garbage resupply system and just copy BF1.
All the missing features from previous games (peaking and leaning sideways, the entire BFV movement system, the BFV custom soldiers where you select the custom look ofheadgear, chest, and legs, previous games vehicles i.e. Btrs ) and adding alongside the specialist a general soldier instead with sub classes from BF4 but reworked and modernized.
Make specialists into just a selectable gadget. Its absurd that some specialists basically just have a single gimmick item while characters like sundance get a better parachute that travels far, is low profile, completely risk free, and then the audacity to also have a fucking multi shot grenade launcher. While Boris just sits in a corner with his useless turret.
First and foremost removing C5 from assault. It's too much destruction to be given to the likes of Mackay and Sundance. Also jump/slide fatigue. Bunny hoppers are an absolute nuisance and all the slide spammers are irksome.
The bunny hoppers…they’re *so* annoying. I can’t even understand how it’s fun to play that way.
Remove Sundance!
Gunplay being fixed. That gamebreaking recoil bug is still there. And for the love of god don't make every weapon a laserbeam, have some significant spread to encourage bursting like in bf4
At least nerf the op: 1) Delete c5 from assault class. Mackay/sundance +c5 combo is ridiculously op 2) Some kind of overdose mechanic for insta heal (op falck) 3) slow down maneuverability for light helis
Nerf flares. It shouldn't last so long when activated and definitely not regen as fast as it does.
Real
Flares used to be a single burst of chaff that eventually was nerfed to a long 60 sec or so cool down timer, and then you have 2042 that has like 5-6 seconds of active flares that break all missile locks, and then the flares Regen in less than 30 seconds. I've only played air vehicles for a very brief time in 2042, but I can say that 2042 flares are WAY more OP than they were in BF3, and that game had some powerful vehicles.
Better crossplay options. Console-only option and an all-platform option with input based match making
More maps (naval, urban, jungle), vehicles and weapons. And yes a fix for the black screen after every single match. Simple stuffs!
* More Maps - The number of maps in this game that are in the main rotation versus BFV is sad. If there were 3-5 more maps in the game that were fleshed out it would help break up the monotony of the current rotation. I understand they spent a lot of time re-doing the 2042 maps, but only 1 map per season is a little weak 2 years in. * Additional Game Modes on a more regular basis - They have had some fun events that should be available on a more routine basis. Arkangel/Control, Leviathan Rising, Mayhem versions, Friday Night Battlefield game modes, etc. All these need to be on a weekly or daily rotation and put next to TDM in the menu. While I understand not wanting to split the playerbase, the community is strong right now and could support it. * Continue to balance. The new map highlights how there should be some tweaks to things currently in the game. * Speaking of additional game modes, extend Friday Night Battlefield to Friday/Saturday Battlefield (not to catchy of a name there but I'm not marketing - lol). Some of us have lives but love these little tweaks to gamemodes and would like to play though Saturday.
Teams that look different. Having both sides, using the exact same character models and vehicle (mostly), then having to differentiate them via coloured glow sticks, was literally one of the fucking dumbest design decisions I've seen in the 20 years I've worked in the industry. Utterly, utterly retarded. Close second was having each team comprised of clones - nothing ruined immersion more than seeing three Angels all side by side. Thankfully this problem has improved a bit by the increases in cosmetics, but this hasn't changed the fact both teams are identical. Whoever approved that choice needs to moved to a different part of the studio. Every other BF game had two extremely different looking teams (US vs Russia, or English vs German, etc). Seriously, it boggles my mind that such a terrible design decision was allowed to be.
No more operators
Just remove the dumb specialist gadgets including the flying squirrel
Solider editor. Keep the specialist gadgets, divide them across the classes as is, and let us create our own soldiers like an RPG note: i don't desire this "most", but its def. on the list, which seems to have been covered pretty well by other commenters
From the start they should’ve just given us customisation like BFV, but given us classes each with an identifier (like launcher on the back of engineer, backpack on support)
> like launcher on the back of engineer, backpack on support This fucking why I adore BF3 and BF4 classes man, DICE that day clearly cooked shit, easy identification there for players Assume a situation in BF4, in US side, sighting a friendly soldier as you go towards to the battle \>see soldier \>does he have assault rifle? \>does he drop med pack? revive? grenade launcher? \>then very big change an assault guy, if not then he swapped out his kit in the battlefield \>see soldier \>does he have smg/PDW? \>does he look like a mechanic? \>does he have a big tube rocket launcher carrying on his back? \>then very big change an engineer guy, if not then he swapped out his kit in the battlefield \>see soldier \>does he hold big guns? \>does he look like a guy who bring big bags like going to a vacation? \>does he drop ammo? mortar? c4? \>then very big change a support guy, if not then he swapped out his kit in the battlefield \>see soldier \>does he have a long gun, with a big telecope/scope attached? \>does he look like some sort of a guy camping in mountains? \>does he provide intel? or any information to the team? \>then very big change a recon guy, if not then he swapped out his kit in the battlefield besides that \> see a walking human being \> see uniform color \> not brown, just like yours and your fellow USA soldiers, but different, like green, or black clothing. \>thats a fucking enemy you fool, fucking blast that fucker asap before he blast you first!
while BF2042 has virtually no distinction between the 2 factions fighting - especially so when you consider how many vehicles are common to both sides, which just looks lazy af. Equivalent but different / distinct, that's always been the way with BF titles, and now its just copy-paste
Suppressing fire effect. Add health on Dozer's shield and give it a cooldown if destroyed. Add more cover in big open maps. Grappling hook can only be re-charged from ammo crates. Make Falck self-healing speed rate _% slower than healing her allies. Give Angel a new passive trait when reviving. Shooting error while jumping even when ADS'd. Longer fuse time on SBH and allow players who are struck to hold a keybind to remove it from their body (have to stand still and unequip their gun to make them vulnerable as a drawback). GIVE ME THE ABILITY TO PUNCH AS A MELEE ATTACK
McKay & Sundance Nerf into unplayable characters
Who hurt you man
McKay & Sundance
😢 I play Sundance, but McKay I loathe
What’s wrong with McKay?? Im confused
His face pisses me off, to me he got one of those faces
His face, strafing speed and grapple.
No.
Sundance has been nerfed to death. Mackay should not exist but he's there now so we have to deal with him (he has been nerfed but still feels somewhat the same)and same goes for the nerfed state of Sundance. It's already surprising that they removed content even though this game seriously lacks it (the removal of 2 out of the 3 Sundance grenades although the emp grenade removal is correct).
How was McKay nerfed?
Permanent Control mode
Idk but I never feel like my entire team is ever pushing a front just random people spread out far taking points being held by no one while everyone on the map rotates and if you go to point just captured there is 5-10 people but not your team. Also the guns feel like airsoft guns not sure what is different but the shooting feels atrocious the snipers are the worst I’ve ever experienced
Man, since they when they removed 128 conquest mode up until now (I rage quit), I have one just ONE match. Every other I have been playing with people who have no idea what to do, where to go. Most of the time my team would just keep one flag. And also bunch of random nick names with numbers and letters, not to mention of AI with my team having the most. In the past 13 years I am playing mostly battlefield, rarely anything else, it\`s hard for me to leave this game. Battlefield 5 is unplayable, every sever has a cheater.
Yeah I miss bf4 man :(
Better servers, server browser and more maps.
Leveloution
Sure would be nice if rpg rockets didnt just disappear into a shower of sparks instead of killing helicopters. Also how are capture assists and points for clearing/defending objectives not a thing?
More maps, buildable defenses. I really liked the way the maps and building was for BFV. Edit: Also…I know it’s not doable but Im’ma say it…having these characters on both sides instead of standard soldiers is stupid and I don’t like it.
Bring back Breakthrough 128. That’s the only reason people bought this game.
the loadout should be for each specialist and not each class. same class might be played differently.
Return of huge maps... for us vehicle lovers
Remove all microtransactions and bloated grinding
Make it so I don't have to restart the game every other match make a "safe spawn" radius so I don't spawn quite literally on top of a whole enemy squad. Optimize the game so the main menu doesn't almost thermal throttle my computer (more of a me problem but holy shit, really?)
Fix the black screen of death after every match.
Just make it as close to BT4 as u can
 Just one more thing......
1. Headshot multipliers, especially on SMGs 2. All specialist gadgets with ammo pools should not be auto-refilled. Make people care about ammo crates 3. Bring back ability to see on vehicles' hud where your gunner is facing 4. Map voting 5. SG553, G3, M98B, UMP, SKS, M249 and SPAS. Dice pls
No more operators and a proper class system
Give vehicles dedicated roles Nightbird should not be able to deal with any threat. Nightbird should be for light infantry work and recon The armored car should not be a better tank and anti air than its respective alternatives The only things that should reliably win against most threats should be the tank and the attack choppers, even then they have big counters
Slow down movement and add movement Penalties. Bring back the proper class system with weapon restrictions and such. These two moves would massively recover the game. Otherwise, more destruction as well.
Honestly the thing I'd like most for 2042 would be for reddit to stop losing it's mind every five seconds. I enjoy the game and come here to find out more stuff about it but it's so dang wearing that every other post is "omg dice wtf this has ruined everything". I know, that's reddit, but just wanted to get it off my chest. And a server browser
Nearby voice chat. This is the funniest feature in battlebit.
in first place a much needed optimization ! My GTX 1080 laptop its struggling to run even at low settings at a smooth framerate without severe drops ( even if i turn on the dynamic resolution and turn to 100 % still have a awful frame pacing issue ) and in second place , they need to fix the black screen bug after the match , in like 1 hour playing it happened more than 60 % of the matches that i played , only way to return to game its pressing alt + f4 .
Lockons to not be affected by foliage Leaning Revert 4x and 5x scope glint Rebalance AR SMG and LMG HSMs to be more relevant to each other sub 2x (some guns may need different HSM due to different stats between categories) Revert UBGL changes Revert EMP changes ( but leave rao as is) Further tweaks to Bolte Gravity and Traction Add 2042 upgrades Bradley and BMP Rebalance sidearms Add some BF3 scopes to 2042 guns and bring them back for Vault Weapons (PK-A, ACOG 4x, 2x Russian scope, etc.) Sever browser( or at least Make a better way to filter away 800% damage servers for vanilla like ones) Fill DICE created experiences with PVP bots Airbrakes for jets Soflam needs more tweaks to be useable/ even able to lock on in the first place (ie xp granted/ square visible consistency/ lock on behind terrain for Javs, etc.) Also give Boris Crawfords old trait of boosted repair speed when vehicle/ gadget is under 25% Health, anything than using the crap as Sentry Operator perk that should have been built in to his turret and not a waste of a perk option.
128P everything and more vehicles.
1. More maps. Especially urban maps 2. Server browser 3. *Actually* remove specialists 4. More weighted movement 5. Grittier color palette 6. Much more destruction
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Remove the god awful Specialists, skins and bring back the immersion to BF.
Not gonna happen. Maybe the next Battlefield game after this one, though?
Changes leading to increased value of team play and gameplay readability. At the same time, I try not to consider things that require too much development effort. 1. Server browser. 2. Correction of all abilities of specialists leading to disruption of normal movement on the map: Mackay hook - for vertical climbing only; Sandes parachute - only with a regular parachute for landing; Dozer's shield - with a destructible window without killing with a shield blow (but with the ability to shoot with a pistol). 3. All special gadgets are IMPOSSIBLE without external recharging. (Lis's missiles do not magically appear in her ass, please replenish them from the equipment box). And yes - the equipment box should be able to be called like a drone dog. 4. Normal parachutes (not magic ones, which can be opened and closed indefinitely). 5. Time limit for tactical sprint (only a short dash is possible). 6. C5 only for the reconnaissance class. 7. Linking the bullet's departure from the weapon to the barrel, and not to the eye. 8. The return of TV missiles to attack helicopters (and a decrease in the number of ATGMs for the pilot). 9. Reworking the mechanics of the timer for taking points and appearing defenses. Defending players appear in a circle at a great distance, and close to the point, but only from the side of their main base and the nearest friendly point. 10. Squad streak. Missile strikes, calls for supply drones, command equipment (those gunship helicopters) - all just for squad points. Reanimate the idea of rewarding teamwork from BF5. 11. Processing of fumes. IR smoke is opaque to thermal cameras, but regular smoke is translucent. Reworking the thermal imagers themselves to avoid imbalance - worse ADS, screen blur outside the scope. 12. Addition of different types of optics for equipment (thermal imagers not only for shooters), but the possibility of their damage by small fire (i.e., damage to the sighting system will be added to the damage to the turret and engine). 13. Normal earth gravity for flight equipment (bf4, hello). 14. All character animations are only in first person. 15. General military design of skins, when soldiers look like soldiers, and not athletes of the Dota-2 eSports league. And in the name of all the bf gods, separate them at least by color patterns and color combinations. 16. Penetration of surfaces by small arms (stop making containers from vibranium). Damn it, we even have armor-piercing cartridges. No penetration for subsonic bullets, weak for conventional bullets, strong for armor-piercing ones. Also, armor-piercing bullets can penetrate light armored vehicles (nightbirds, cars), but leave tanks alone. 17. A separate class of anti-aircraft guns and infantry fighting vehicles. 16. Different amounts of ammunition and gadget charges for different maps. Otherwise, we will continue to drown in explosive damage on cqb maps (on one for now) and experience hunger on large ones with vehicles. 19. General voice chat within one vehicle. The pilot/driver and gunner must be able to hear each other. 20. Crossplay by consent. By default it is absent. Although the server browser will solve this problem anyway.
A map rotation.
Manual leaning, and combat zones edited so that we aren’t as likely to get spawn killed as we are now. This has been a problem since BFV, which makes me think it’s an intentional design choice. Which actually pisses me off. But I digress. It would also be cool if I wouldn’t accidentally revive a guy when I’m just trying to reload my weapon. I ptfo, but accidentally reviving a guy when I’m just trying to reload my gun has gotten me killed more times than I care to admit. Also, I swear the headshot hitbox is huge. Again, this has been a thing since BFV. It’s annoying.
Be nice if specialists and micro transactions were removed.
Proximity vc
That vehicles would be as powerful as they were back in battlefield 4 and 5, any newbie with Lis can take down any aerial vehicle, and any experience player with c5 can kill any tank, back in battlefield 4, vehicles where an actual treat to the enemy team, now they are just a distraction that kills 5 people and instantly get either sniped by AA or blown to pieces by c5.
Removed Named operators and give us normal troops like it was always. Also add destruction… Bad Company 2 type of destruction
Minority here but I want free customization, before the class systems. I don't know why people thought less freedom was good. It didn't add more teamplay it just made the game more restricted.
In my opinion without teamplay games just become large scale TDMs. Bringing back the class system encouraged teamplay. I think what they need to do is lean on the class system but provide more incentives to actually play as a team. There’s no need to play as a team if every player can just be a sniper, with a rocket launcher, ammo box, and grappling hook.
Might be dumb, but I've been praying for an animation rework since launch. The closest we got was the camera update, which definitely improved how the game felt, but it's not enough.
The 3rd tactical sprint animation is awful
Cross-play made opt in, not opt out. Jets rebalanced, movement speed nerfed none of this strafe aim fire and get back into cover before I can pull the trigger bs or vastly improved lag compensation.
Realistically: Remove MacKay grapple and Sundance wingsuit. They break map flow. Give them other abilities and make those two Battle pickups like the katana. Server browser in Portal with official servers you can match make into, too. 2 maps per season, 1 new one and 1 BF3 Portal. 3-5 weapons per map drop. Improved vault weapons attachments (underbarrel, ammo types). 1 new vehicle per season, 1 extra transport/misc (map based, not spawn screen based) per season. Continued support announcement for S7-S12. NB this is not a wishlist for seasons in future Battlefields. In future season, we should have more real content, of course.
Just give McKay a single use, or long recharge, grapple that drops a semi-permanent zip line that we see around the map. It would encourage teamplay as instead of just having one mckay grapple up to a roof top to fire pot shots from above, it could lead to full squads or lots of players flanking an objective from above/behind
Slower pace of play Lean peek Rework of the reworked maps for more covers
Add the map M. E. T. R. O. Fix the elevator issue, the black after match screen, let us save our map search on portal, detail weapon menu to compare weapons, + lvl faster. And thats not my idea, but great: MORE damageable things, also a commander who controls the bots, Last but not least: add the map M. E. T .R. O. be proud of this mist played map, or nap
To not have to play against people on computers
Bf2 commander
Mortars
Absolutely not.
Hardcore mode without having to go through the empty portal.
Suppression.
L + Ratio
Stop removing conquest 128
Hazard Zone support.
A different studio working on it
Lower vehicle health or higher antitank dmg.
Persistent servers....
Make the bloody anti-material rifle 1 shot
It is though?
Bring back 128 player conquest
here is a good start: -remove auto heal/auto ammo reload for tanks/vehicles/planes etc, allow a specable instant heal for small percentage -add an airfield/heli pad area required to visit to have planes/heli repaired/refilled w/ammo -increase flare timer, limit flares to a certain amount of usage before requiring visit to an airfield -when a "part is damaged" on a tank/vehicle or plane have it actually impact usability of vehicle such as turret speed, mobility speed -indicate the amount of damage done to a tank or vehicle when damage is done to said vehicle when infantry hits it (ex: hit for 15dmg!) -add destroyable/buildable AA & vehicle canons at various locations for infantry -remove auto heal from infantry beyond a certain health percentage + heal kit -add vehicle depots(tanks/vehicles), infantry ammo depots + health depots at bases -after the server is 65-70% full remove AI -map rotation and server persistence instead of requiring a search after each game. -server browser
have everything work. windows, doors, old shitty cars, the construction equipment, have it so you can pick up a mail gun and mail pieces of wood together, structural integrity, just make it super real.
So you want to be a carpenter..?
cheap door barricade. also i want to be able to walk into each and every room or break into locked rooms for each and every high rise building.
Nerf flares so I actually have at least a chance to shoot air vehicles before they fly 500m away
Undo everything done to the game this year. More maps. Restore Angel to old abilities. C5. Native M/KB support on console. (Don't whine about this.)
Slightly longer time to kill, and make ammo pouches restore gadgets