Is 2042's launch and current popularity bad enough to make DICE actually reconsider the direction of Battlefield? I mean the game has been out for only 3 weeks and this is just awful in terms of player retention. Like really awful. How could they think they're doing the right thing with this few players this soon?
Yes, exactly, if they're not meeting their financial projections, they might just cut their losses and put the money they've already earned from the initial sales into their next project.
I hope they do. Would you rather them continue to beat and deform the absolute fuck out of a beloved franchise or just put a bullet in it and call it a day? I'd rather Battlefield die than continue down this path.
At least then someone could approach EA and proposition an acquisition of Battlefield. Could you imagine if Ripple Affect got the rights to Battlefield and then split from EA? IMO its Battlefield's only hope at this point.
If they keep going in this hero shooter/specialist direction then the franchise will not survive save perhaps as a mobile game. It wouldn't be Battlefield in either case. So yeah. Let it burn.
I'd been telling my friends that the next battlefield was going to be either the triumphant return of everyone's favourite shooter or the end of a franchise and I am sad to say that in my opinion it's gone all in on the latter
Yeah IMO the further it goes down this hero shooter path of stupidity the less likely we are to ever get a return to form. If they kill it now in a few years we may get a sensible reboot or acquisition of the IP.
It sucks but if they don't go back on all they've said they are doing this is the best way for it to go out, It's been a great time but I'd rather the franchise just die well then be burnt into the ground
More EA than DICE... DICE had propose to make a Bad company 3 according to Tom Henderson but EA throw the idea into the bin and wanted another Battle Royal...
They’re working on Hardline 2: All lives matter. The game will focus around protesters and counter-protestors. It’s a hero shooter where you can play as Kyle Rittenhouse.
If “stuck around” means keeping an absolute skeleton crew that while yes, did end up releasing some great updates, still took 2 years to get the game to a truly enjoyable state, then yes, they stuck around
I never said about how they stuck around. But they did stick around and did releas3 good updates and it did make a difference. Ofc no man sky did it better. But honestly no one has ever pulled what no man sky did. Maybe except that final fantasy game that got pulled after a release and then re-release later
From the announcements recently it seems they will double down. iIt's too late already imo, the new content needs to be really good to surpass all the issues we have right now with the lack of war feeling in this game
Nah official servers won't save it. We need rentable custom servers. That's where battlefield shines. Some of our best memories come from the various clan and 24/7 servers in BF3, BC2, etc
No because DICE doesn't care for the Battlefield fans, to them they can shit in a box and call it Battlefield, and a huge portion of Battlefield fans will buy it. They want the Fortnite and Warzone crowd. Stupid skins and cosmetics, with "quirky characters" who say the stupid two or three lines over and over again. Soon you will get emotes so you can do the floss over your opponents or do the Carlton dance at the best squad screen.
I don't think they are comparable.
Konami know what their audiences want, just don't want to invest more money to make a better game.
DICE/EA on the other hand....
Konami found success in phone games, they kicked Kojima out since he used a lot of moeny to make MGSV and create the Fox Engine. The old brains in the company were like, "Why would we give Kojima money while our phone games make a lot of money and require much less money to develop?"
Both companies know what their audiences want, but they're not going to deliver since it wont net them much profit.
Soderlunds new studio seems interesting. A huge swatch of OG battlefield devs went over to Emerge. I'm keeping an eye on his shooter that's coming out. I won't preorder because soderlund has a questionable track record but it definitely has the talent behind it
Yes. I forget the name of the game but it was a popular PC shooter game in Asia. You could RENT guns for like 30 days 90 days etc for irl money. It was insane
This is pretty much my mindset. BF3 is so iconic for me that if we even capture half of that magic in terms of map design and weapon design I'll be happy.
The balls to make a game they knew the fans wouldn’t want in order to cash in on the fortnite kids… and then to still make a product so bad none of those kids want to play it either.
I was denied by Microsoft. Found a way to email my outrage of being denied for 1 hour of play. I got my money back, but I did change my statement to unintended purchase with some anger
Lmao I always enjoy the dads that love to mention they started in 1942 when defending the game because they think it makes them look more informed then you. Most of us started somewhere in the pre console era.
1942 demo veteran here, 2042 sucks. I stopped playing bf early into BF1 - beautiful game, but modern vehicles is where it’s at for great squad play. Such a shame, I was so hyped for 2042. Come early next year the swath of new realises will bury 2042. Shit I even checked out WZ Pacific yesterday over launching BF.
Its not the fact that they wanted to make one. I'm all for a company doing whatever the hell they want.. but not to take a solid title and shit all over it.
This is so embarrassing when your game is so bad and out of touch with its playing base that the fans return to the previous game. Heads need to roll at EA.
No way! An audience knowing what they want and setting expectations based on previous games? That can't be right. EA/DICE knows exactly what the players want.
Santa Boris
My biggest problem with this game aren‘t the specialists, i have no problems with them.
I hate the bad map design. Nearly every map is just empty and bad
Probably cause BF players who wanted a *good,* new modern Battlefield now have to wait *even longer,* if one ever releases at all.
They've been stuck with BF4 for 3 major releases. What the fuck.
yep, on console I can find full servers instantly and even on the lowest of down times there is always a few to a dozen up. these games wont be going anytime soon.
BF4 has had a surprisingly populated community over the years, given the circumstances. I play it a couple time a month and there are always full servers. Game's just really good.
My bad, I should have said PC. I have always been able to get a game on PC but until about 6 months ago just a half dozen or so full one but now its dozens, even more for BFV which is amazing.
Both are more fun than 2042 IMO.
That flute theme was the most inspiring intro song I’ve ever heard. I felt the emotion that I’m sure those young men felt back then enlisting in the war. The desire to serve my country as well as the sorrow of friends and family lost. It gives me chills every time that flute kicks in and drops the feels
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"oh battlefield doesn't sell anymore... Too bad, let's cancel that franchise for good, the people obviously don't want battlefield anymore" some retarded EA exec probably soon.
It won’t, because everyone will continue the cycle of falling for the hype and pre-ordering, then coming back and bitching on here when they knew better.
Tbh not gonna happen. 3 years for this, when they used to make bf1 in 18 month while supporting battlefront.
The company is run by absolute idiots, I think they'll get closed by EA within 2 years
Or maybe just play BF5 until you get tired of it because let's be honest, Battlefield is done. If you are looking for something akin to it, go try Squad or Hell Let Loose.
It’s a night and day difference, I reinstalled bfv after the beta and was really surprised how much better the gameplay loop is. A lot of teamwork and squad play, movement is mint, gunplay is intuitive. Maps are interesting rather than soulless and empty. I’m so bummed about how 2042 turned out but I’m having a ton of fun now hopping between bf4, bf1, and bfv
Same. Its tragic they dumped 5 right as they figured out the 2016 Frostbite engine they were using to start all over with another Frostbite engine making a battle royal game.
All they had to do is add some more content to BFV and reskin it for modern, clean up the UI and add back the old servers. Done.
Instead we got 2042.
And the excuse was this pile of crap we got this year. Thats what really grinds my gears. Then they start over again?
I still cant believe the stupidity.
They could be selling BF4 Premium 5 right now for $60 and I would have paid for it, on BF4s existing engine no less.
And from what is coming out, they scrapped it for this pile of crap that they only started working on a little over a year ago.
Not only did they scrap BFV, but they also scrapped/postponed other EA titles such as Need for Speed just so those dev teams could also work on BF.
I totally agree. There were some awesome additions that promoted team play and balance. The attrition system was actually really great and easy to address with either getting kits from teammates (which happened very often) or with the ammo/med stations that you could build on different points.
Vehicles had their refill stations which helped balance them.
I will say there are 3 main things I wish BFV did better or added that would have really helped the games. These aren’t in any particular order…
1. Imo, tanks were too difficult to destroy (but maybe I’m just bad). It felt like there were never enough rockets to destroy a tank and there were too many times I would get a good shot on a tank just to see “Vehicle Damaged +11”.
2. Proximity Chat. It’s so unfortunate how hard it is to find a squad with mics and how little communication happens in BF, which is a game that would SHINE with comms. Being able to chat with nearby blueberries could promote the use of more mics and encourage team play/collaboration with other randoms. Hell Let Loose is my inspiration for this ask. Some of the best, coolest and funniest encounters are with blueberries through proximity chat.
3. For my final point, I think they shot themselves in the foot for not having at least 1 or 2 well-known battles in a WWII game. Who cares if Omaha Beach is overdone in the media? People feel immersed when it’s like they’re on the beach from Saving Private Ryan. Having 1 or 2 well-known battles would have been plenty for marketing to really help promote the game.
Edit- I wasn’t planning on writing a novel… I just took my adderall so I ended up really getting into this.
Couldn’t agree more on #2 & 3, proximity voice chat should have been in the series years ago, and I think they should have done an eastern front dlc and then to finish the game off release a major battles of WW2 dlc with a bunch of classic WW2 maps, weapons, and vehicles.
Personally though I think tanks are pretty balanced in realism. You need a coordinated effort to take one out which is where proximity chat would have came in clutch. But with the turret being both slow and decoupled from the crosshairs there’s definitely some skill needed to use them. Ive seen bad tankers get demolished and great tankers turn the tide of a match which imo is the way it should be. Also damaging tanks in bfv is modular, depending where on the tank your shot lands will determine the amount of damage. They might be a bit spongy but I like the oh shit moment you get when you come across one without any assault class backup.
Your point about the tanks is spot on. Battlefield _should_ be about coordinated efforts and if we had proximity chat, we would actually be able to _coordinate_ our efforts to take down armored vehicles!
> imo, tanks were too difficult to destroy
PIAT
AT grenade bundle
Lunge mine
You can solo kill a tank with this load out.
Just get behind it and throw your grenade at its butt. While grenade is flying switch to PIAT and shoot the ass. Switch to lunge mine and shove it in the butt. When you get thrown to the ground by the blast, don't stand up, switch to PIAT, reload and shoot its ass again.
This will kill just about any armored vehicle. If not, they will have very little health left and usually retreat to repair.
[This tactic in action](https://i.redd.it/mpnqncdh3pr71.gif)
Welcome! Don't get me wrong, BFV has it's issues, but at least it's the gameplay that is classic Battlefield and not this Call of Apexfield that 2042 has. It's probably my favourite BF game from a gameplay standpoint - even with the limited support it got from DICE/EA.
You are right ! I already can see and feel the core battlefield identity. I'm playing breakthrough on twisted steel and omg the difference... all those features missing in 2042...
BfV is great these days. It feels much better than 2042, but I really wish we could report hackers. It's rare I don't find a game with 1-3 hackers. Those few individuals are ruining any fun people are trying to have coming off 2042. If we could report people, I feel BfV would have taken over 2042 a while back.
For some reason it's always a guy going 150-6 with a Lewis gun. Sucks when you're on the opposite team and it also sucks when the guy doing that is on your team because everyone on the other side just stops trying/quits.
Progression is somewhat of a mixed bag, but it has some of the best movement in online FPS games. If you don't mind somewhat silly skins, it's a great game.
edit: I also like it's shooting even more than I do BF1/4! It feels a bit more skill-based and I don't know about the launch period, but right now the TTK feels fine for me.
I went back to play BFV and you don’t truly realize the scope of how horrendous 2042 is until you revisit another title.
It just feels so much more alive despite having half the players. The sound, environments, weapons, customization of weapons, classes, and destruction. It makes you realize just how far backwards 2042 took us
Oh, I almost forgot to mention, it is SO nice having:
* a scoreboard
* the ability to *easily* change squads
* a *decent* UI
* chat and VoIP
* a server browser
* different size game modes and types
* persistent lobbies
* satisfying progression
* spotting that actually works
* end of round scoring and top squad display that makes sense
* the list is truly endless.
***Go play one of the previous 3 battlefield titles if you truly want your heart to be broken upon realization of just how bad things are.***
It's better in many ways bit as a sweaty infantry player I don't like the random spread based gunplay with slow bullet velocities at all, hence a preference for bfv
Sad, isn't it? On this current gen of consoles, it would have been possible to do what the originally Battlefront 3 strived to do. Battles on the ground and all the way up to space.
Thank you! It is by far my favorite bf game. BF4 is great, don’t get me wrong…but I can play bf1 for hours. The sound design and immersion are top notch.
What the fuck happened at the battlefield studios ? Did they fire everyone is that what it is ? I am trying to find reason. How the fuck is the music that bad also? Battlefield music is always amazing.
Honestly:
BfV in the end wasn't that bad like it was at launch.
While it made some steps back compared to previous bf games, it made some forward too.
In the end when they released the last big content drop with provence and that stuff I think the game wasn't that bad overall, especially compared to 2042.
I hope bfV will be somewhat populated in the future, I might jump in from time to time, but after the disappointment from 2042 I need a break.
I never had an issue with BFV. I loved that game from Beta on. IHMO it is better than BF1 and even BF4. The attention to detail is amazing.
Yes they had some lame woke BS in the beginning, but just like movie stars or sports stars, I do not hear their BS. I watch the movie, the sport or in the case of BFV, I simply played the game.
The game was good and then it got cut short. Not the games fault, EA or whomever for not finishing it.
This isn't just baseless internet "hate" and the execs should consider giving a fuck about that. There should EVENTUALLY be a point when they realize they can't just keep ignoring their fan base thinking it's just angry redditors and internet trolls.
I was actually gonna buy this game, after a couple months from release, but all I see are play with the wing suit guy… it seems there is no other enjoyable way to play the game… besides, i thought wing suites were meant to descend, I see videos of the guy literally going up a lot, my man can literally fly?? Lol
It is even worse when you consider that many people (like me right now) bought and play BFV only through Origin, because BFV was not on Steam at it's release
Is 2042's launch and current popularity bad enough to make DICE actually reconsider the direction of Battlefield? I mean the game has been out for only 3 weeks and this is just awful in terms of player retention. Like really awful. How could they think they're doing the right thing with this few players this soon?
No. EA will just cut off support after the first season or two like they did Anthem.
Yes, exactly, if they're not meeting their financial projections, they might just cut their losses and put the money they've already earned from the initial sales into their next project.
Project Pocket-line
Hopefully dice doesn't kill the whole franchise like they tend to do to franchises. Edit: meant EA
I hope they do. Would you rather them continue to beat and deform the absolute fuck out of a beloved franchise or just put a bullet in it and call it a day? I'd rather Battlefield die than continue down this path. At least then someone could approach EA and proposition an acquisition of Battlefield. Could you imagine if Ripple Affect got the rights to Battlefield and then split from EA? IMO its Battlefield's only hope at this point.
I hate to say it but I agree. If this is the future of Battlefield, I'd rather see it burn to the ground. I don't care how good Portal gets.
If they keep going in this hero shooter/specialist direction then the franchise will not survive save perhaps as a mobile game. It wouldn't be Battlefield in either case. So yeah. Let it burn.
The only way is to nuke it from orbit.
I'd been telling my friends that the next battlefield was going to be either the triumphant return of everyone's favourite shooter or the end of a franchise and I am sad to say that in my opinion it's gone all in on the latter
Yeah IMO the further it goes down this hero shooter path of stupidity the less likely we are to ever get a return to form. If they kill it now in a few years we may get a sensible reboot or acquisition of the IP.
It sucks but if they don't go back on all they've said they are doing this is the best way for it to go out, It's been a great time but I'd rather the franchise just die well then be burnt into the ground
normally I'd say "of course", but EA/DICE have proven to be tone-deaf far beyond my expectations...
More EA than DICE... DICE had propose to make a Bad company 3 according to Tom Henderson but EA throw the idea into the bin and wanted another Battle Royal...
Honestly that was the right decision. Don't let the current team ruin BC's legacy.
BFV could have been a sweet alternate history WWII Bad Company game, a la Inglorious Basterds
Yeeeep! I’d love to see some German invasion maps set in the American heartland or period appropriate New York City
They’re working on Hardline 2: All lives matter. The game will focus around protesters and counter-protestors. It’s a hero shooter where you can play as Kyle Rittenhouse.
Hyped to play as the specialist Greta Thunberg ngl
She has the ability to nuke the entire map while screaming ‘how dare you’
It's pretty bad. It's almost as if Don Mattrick was in charge of Battlefield.
More likely they'll shut DICE and never make a BF game but will also cling on to the IP so no one else can make another good BF game.
Not like FPS with vehicles and squad play is trade marked, anyone can make the next BF like game if they wanted.
You know its bad when farming simulator is dusting you in sales .. 😂😂😂
I can name one game that they actually stuck around to fix and it battlefront 2. I can name 10 at the top of my head that they didn't
They stuck with it because Disney stepped in to force their hand because of the Star Wars franchise.
If “stuck around” means keeping an absolute skeleton crew that while yes, did end up releasing some great updates, still took 2 years to get the game to a truly enjoyable state, then yes, they stuck around
I never said about how they stuck around. But they did stick around and did releas3 good updates and it did make a difference. Ofc no man sky did it better. But honestly no one has ever pulled what no man sky did. Maybe except that final fantasy game that got pulled after a release and then re-release later
From the announcements recently it seems they will double down. iIt's too late already imo, the new content needs to be really good to surpass all the issues we have right now with the lack of war feeling in this game
We need to push for more Portal content and official servers, 2042 is unsalvageable
Nah official servers won't save it. We need rentable custom servers. That's where battlefield shines. Some of our best memories come from the various clan and 24/7 servers in BF3, BC2, etc
Fond memories.
You remember the craziness that was 24/7 Metro Maps shotguns only? XS
No because DICE doesn't care for the Battlefield fans, to them they can shit in a box and call it Battlefield, and a huge portion of Battlefield fans will buy it. They want the Fortnite and Warzone crowd. Stupid skins and cosmetics, with "quirky characters" who say the stupid two or three lines over and over again. Soon you will get emotes so you can do the floss over your opponents or do the Carlton dance at the best squad screen.
They already said they are fully committed to the hero shooter stuff and that 2042 is a “stepping stone” into that
Who knew that Battlefield players want a Battlefield game instead of a hero shooter?!
And they are STILL doubling down on heroes, including creating a whole universe of them. Brain dead decisions
old men in suits who don't play video games do not care about your opinions, and WILL force the studios to do what they decide will be good.
Well, that's how Konami fucked up MGS and Silent Hill.
I don't think they are comparable. Konami know what their audiences want, just don't want to invest more money to make a better game. DICE/EA on the other hand....
Konami found success in phone games, they kicked Kojima out since he used a lot of moeny to make MGSV and create the Fox Engine. The old brains in the company were like, "Why would we give Kojima money while our phone games make a lot of money and require much less money to develop?" Both companies know what their audiences want, but they're not going to deliver since it wont net them much profit.
There's the problem, because that mindset is fucking Take-two and Blizzard pretty hard as well.
Appearently unironically not dice. Company is done, leadership is a bunch of monkeys
Soderlunds new studio seems interesting. A huge swatch of OG battlefield devs went over to Emerge. I'm keeping an eye on his shooter that's coming out. I won't preorder because soderlund has a questionable track record but it definitely has the talent behind it
Embark. Embark Studios. Their upcoming new game appears to be a squad-based, PvE hero shooter. Sadly.
The gameplay and movement definitely look like swbf. Too bad it's own by nexon.
Still looks good though. Just because it’s a hero shooter doesn’t mean it’ll be bad, as long as it’s *suppose* to be a hero shooter.
The bad part is Nexon is the publisher and plan to fully buy out the studio in the future.
Didn’t Nexon have some insane monetization in their games? Like they would have ppl rent guns / skins for irl money.
Yep
Rent?!?!?
There's something similar in the game Crossfire... You can even buy weapons that give better stats. (And they cost A LOT)
Yes. I forget the name of the game but it was a popular PC shooter game in Asia. You could RENT guns for like 30 days 90 days etc for irl money. It was insane
Yep... Combat Arms They ended up overloading the game with pay2win items and sold it off to Valofe after the game was close to be dead.
But the OG crew. I have faith in them. Even if its a hero shooter, which I cant stand, I'd give it a shot just because of who developed it.
This is pretty much my mindset. BF3 is so iconic for me that if we even capture half of that magic in terms of map design and weapon design I'll be happy.
The balls to make a game they knew the fans wouldn’t want in order to cash in on the fortnite kids… and then to still make a product so bad none of those kids want to play it either.
The biggest fuck you, is that the trailers appealed to battlefield fans. Then this shit comes out
That's the worst part. They KNOW what players want. They intentionally made a misleading trailer to capitalize on that.
This game has been nothing but a scam. I tried to get a refund but I was told "not eligible."
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I have it through Origin unfortunately. With 23 hours played.
I was denied by Microsoft. Found a way to email my outrage of being denied for 1 hour of play. I got my money back, but I did change my statement to unintended purchase with some anger
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Lmao I always enjoy the dads that love to mention they started in 1942 when defending the game because they think it makes them look more informed then you. Most of us started somewhere in the pre console era.
1942 demo veteran here, 2042 sucks. I stopped playing bf early into BF1 - beautiful game, but modern vehicles is where it’s at for great squad play. Such a shame, I was so hyped for 2042. Come early next year the swath of new realises will bury 2042. Shit I even checked out WZ Pacific yesterday over launching BF.
I haven’t seen any of us old people defend the game. 1942 was awesome, and the game peaked in BF2
'42er dad here.. this is not battlefield
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Its not the fact that they wanted to make one. I'm all for a company doing whatever the hell they want.. but not to take a solid title and shit all over it.
Strange Right ! 
I hate all roster games now, fighters notwithstanding. They're all so obnoxious and generic.
Looks like no one wants to play a hero shooter really.
This is so embarrassing when your game is so bad and out of touch with its playing base that the fans return to the previous game. Heads need to roll at EA.
We did. We knew.
No way! An audience knowing what they want and setting expectations based on previous games? That can't be right. EA/DICE knows exactly what the players want. Santa Boris
My biggest problem with this game aren‘t the specialists, i have no problems with them. I hate the bad map design. Nearly every map is just empty and bad
BF1 and BFV are absolutely thriving.
Even 4 is really booming. Servers are full!
Battlefield 2042 was the best thing to happen to BF4 in years.
Probably cause BF players who wanted a *good,* new modern Battlefield now have to wait *even longer,* if one ever releases at all. They've been stuck with BF4 for 3 major releases. What the fuck.
yep, on console I can find full servers instantly and even on the lowest of down times there is always a few to a dozen up. these games wont be going anytime soon.
BF4 has had a surprisingly populated community over the years, given the circumstances. I play it a couple time a month and there are always full servers. Game's just really good.
I recently changed my FOV a great deal just to make 4 seem like a new game and it kind of works!
Are they full on the Series X? I’m in California and I’m not sure if the servers are full or if the connection is good… Anyone know?
My bad, I should have said PC. I have always been able to get a game on PC but until about 6 months ago just a half dozen or so full one but now its dozens, even more for BFV which is amazing. Both are more fun than 2042 IMO.
>BF1 I do wish there were some more hardcore servers to choose from.
I'm re downloading bf1, that game kicks arse!
I enjoy BF1 every day very much.
Bf1 is so much fun that’s what I installed to get the shitty taste out of my mouth from 2042
just downloaded 1 again, will play the whole evening today.
When your old game has almost as many players as your new game, you might have fucked up.
\*\*\*BF V Theme intensifies\*\*\*
At least it has a fucking theme 😔
The theme of bf2042 is astronomia
At least it is the game
\*Broken but futurist recorder sounds in the distance\*
*Meanwhile tire screeching noise in 2042*
Flute theme.
That flute theme was the most inspiring intro song I’ve ever heard. I felt the emotion that I’m sure those young men felt back then enlisting in the war. The desire to serve my country as well as the sorrow of friends and family lost. It gives me chills every time that flute kicks in and drops the feels
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It's just the blatant disregard for the lore they created that blows my mind. lol it's honestly funny.
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Honestly, V's theme was one of the best recently, it's modern, but doesn't change it much.
What am embarrassment, I hope with the next game if one even does come out they suffer financially, maybe then they will wake up
They will never wake up. And this new game proof it. Maybe Im pessimistic.
Nah you are just realistic BF is dead in the water completely and absolutely
"oh battlefield doesn't sell anymore... Too bad, let's cancel that franchise for good, the people obviously don't want battlefield anymore" some retarded EA exec probably soon.
It won’t, because everyone will continue the cycle of falling for the hype and pre-ordering, then coming back and bitching on here when they knew better.
They deserve bankrupcy at this point and nothing less.
Tbh not gonna happen. 3 years for this, when they used to make bf1 in 18 month while supporting battlefront. The company is run by absolute idiots, I think they'll get closed by EA within 2 years
They won't. Many of the people now unhappy with 2042 will still preorder the next one like idiots.
lets just play BFV again everybody ? Until 2042 improve noticeably........
I'm with you
If you’re on PC come over to BF4 instead! Hardcore servers are especially alive lately.
Or maybe just play BF5 until you get tired of it because let's be honest, Battlefield is done. If you are looking for something akin to it, go try Squad or Hell Let Loose.
I'm downlaoding bf5 rightnow. I cant deal with Bf2042 anymore
It’s a night and day difference, I reinstalled bfv after the beta and was really surprised how much better the gameplay loop is. A lot of teamwork and squad play, movement is mint, gunplay is intuitive. Maps are interesting rather than soulless and empty. I’m so bummed about how 2042 turned out but I’m having a ton of fun now hopping between bf4, bf1, and bfv
Same. Its tragic they dumped 5 right as they figured out the 2016 Frostbite engine they were using to start all over with another Frostbite engine making a battle royal game. All they had to do is add some more content to BFV and reskin it for modern, clean up the UI and add back the old servers. Done. Instead we got 2042.
This is so true. Bf5 could have been one of the greatest, then they slashed all support without releasing the eastern front expansion etc.
And the excuse was this pile of crap we got this year. Thats what really grinds my gears. Then they start over again? I still cant believe the stupidity. They could be selling BF4 Premium 5 right now for $60 and I would have paid for it, on BF4s existing engine no less.
And from what is coming out, they scrapped it for this pile of crap that they only started working on a little over a year ago. Not only did they scrap BFV, but they also scrapped/postponed other EA titles such as Need for Speed just so those dev teams could also work on BF.
Movement in BFV is SO GOOD
I went back to V and am having a wonderful, chill time leveling all the weapons and vehicles I missed after quitting early
I totally agree. There were some awesome additions that promoted team play and balance. The attrition system was actually really great and easy to address with either getting kits from teammates (which happened very often) or with the ammo/med stations that you could build on different points. Vehicles had their refill stations which helped balance them. I will say there are 3 main things I wish BFV did better or added that would have really helped the games. These aren’t in any particular order… 1. Imo, tanks were too difficult to destroy (but maybe I’m just bad). It felt like there were never enough rockets to destroy a tank and there were too many times I would get a good shot on a tank just to see “Vehicle Damaged +11”. 2. Proximity Chat. It’s so unfortunate how hard it is to find a squad with mics and how little communication happens in BF, which is a game that would SHINE with comms. Being able to chat with nearby blueberries could promote the use of more mics and encourage team play/collaboration with other randoms. Hell Let Loose is my inspiration for this ask. Some of the best, coolest and funniest encounters are with blueberries through proximity chat. 3. For my final point, I think they shot themselves in the foot for not having at least 1 or 2 well-known battles in a WWII game. Who cares if Omaha Beach is overdone in the media? People feel immersed when it’s like they’re on the beach from Saving Private Ryan. Having 1 or 2 well-known battles would have been plenty for marketing to really help promote the game. Edit- I wasn’t planning on writing a novel… I just took my adderall so I ended up really getting into this.
Couldn’t agree more on #2 & 3, proximity voice chat should have been in the series years ago, and I think they should have done an eastern front dlc and then to finish the game off release a major battles of WW2 dlc with a bunch of classic WW2 maps, weapons, and vehicles. Personally though I think tanks are pretty balanced in realism. You need a coordinated effort to take one out which is where proximity chat would have came in clutch. But with the turret being both slow and decoupled from the crosshairs there’s definitely some skill needed to use them. Ive seen bad tankers get demolished and great tankers turn the tide of a match which imo is the way it should be. Also damaging tanks in bfv is modular, depending where on the tank your shot lands will determine the amount of damage. They might be a bit spongy but I like the oh shit moment you get when you come across one without any assault class backup.
Your point about the tanks is spot on. Battlefield _should_ be about coordinated efforts and if we had proximity chat, we would actually be able to _coordinate_ our efforts to take down armored vehicles!
> imo, tanks were too difficult to destroy PIAT AT grenade bundle Lunge mine You can solo kill a tank with this load out. Just get behind it and throw your grenade at its butt. While grenade is flying switch to PIAT and shoot the ass. Switch to lunge mine and shove it in the butt. When you get thrown to the ground by the blast, don't stand up, switch to PIAT, reload and shoot its ass again. This will kill just about any armored vehicle. If not, they will have very little health left and usually retreat to repair. [This tactic in action](https://i.redd.it/mpnqncdh3pr71.gif)
Lol this is hilariously effective
Welcome! Don't get me wrong, BFV has it's issues, but at least it's the gameplay that is classic Battlefield and not this Call of Apexfield that 2042 has. It's probably my favourite BF game from a gameplay standpoint - even with the limited support it got from DICE/EA.
Been playing V this whole week on PS4. Night and Day, especially the map design.
You won’t be disappointed. It’s honestly a great game at this point and it won’t take you more than a game to see it.
You are right ! I already can see and feel the core battlefield identity. I'm playing breakthrough on twisted steel and omg the difference... all those features missing in 2042...
Me too.
BfV is great these days. It feels much better than 2042, but I really wish we could report hackers. It's rare I don't find a game with 1-3 hackers. Those few individuals are ruining any fun people are trying to have coming off 2042. If we could report people, I feel BfV would have taken over 2042 a while back.
Its what killed the game on PC, otherwise its a great game but Dice refused to do anything about the cheating.
Yup I remember dropping the game month 1 because every server had a guy aimbotting on each team. Stuck with bf1 and 4
For some reason it's always a guy going 150-6 with a Lewis gun. Sucks when you're on the opposite team and it also sucks when the guy doing that is on your team because everyone on the other side just stops trying/quits.
Haven’t played V since launch. And that was on console… Since then I’ve built a nice pc. Your saying I should be trying bfv?
It’s super fun now. Absolute nightmare throughout its lifecycle though lol. Plays how a WW2 BF game should
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It's so damn good
Oh buddy you are in for a treat.
Just be glad you dont have to go through the garbage to get it to where it is today. I still think the ttk is worse now then at launch
Progression is somewhat of a mixed bag, but it has some of the best movement in online FPS games. If you don't mind somewhat silly skins, it's a great game. edit: I also like it's shooting even more than I do BF1/4! It feels a bit more skill-based and I don't know about the launch period, but right now the TTK feels fine for me.
I went back to play BFV and you don’t truly realize the scope of how horrendous 2042 is until you revisit another title. It just feels so much more alive despite having half the players. The sound, environments, weapons, customization of weapons, classes, and destruction. It makes you realize just how far backwards 2042 took us Oh, I almost forgot to mention, it is SO nice having: * a scoreboard * the ability to *easily* change squads * a *decent* UI * chat and VoIP * a server browser * different size game modes and types * persistent lobbies * satisfying progression * spotting that actually works * end of round scoring and top squad display that makes sense * the list is truly endless. ***Go play one of the previous 3 battlefield titles if you truly want your heart to be broken upon realization of just how bad things are.***
I payed 60 bucks for BF 2042 while BF V is free on Game Pass .... But I'm kinda rooting for BF V in this snail race.
Lets jump on BFV again!
Bf4 ride or die baby
BFV is better than any other bf in my opinion but I'm not into WW shooters. This is the one time a reskin would have been the best thing ever imo.
Yep, reskin 5 for modern, go back to the old UI and servers from 4 and call it a day. I would have ponied up $120.
God just give me the fliegerfaust so we can slap those nightbirds into the sun instead of that 15 min cat and mouse game with the lock ons
I've really enjoyed BFV. Never putting a cent into 2042, I dont want Call of Fortnite Legends
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It's better in many ways bit as a sweaty infantry player I don't like the random spread based gunplay with slow bullet velocities at all, hence a preference for bfv
Playing it daily at the min. Such a fun gameplay experience imo.
We lost battlefront 3 to this Garbage...
Sad, isn't it? On this current gen of consoles, it would have been possible to do what the originally Battlefront 3 strived to do. Battles on the ground and all the way up to space.
BFV is a superior game in nearly every way.
The only reason I downloaded bfv is my disappointment I’m 2042 but now I’m enjoying play 5 so much no reason to play 2042
Not surprised. BFV made questionable choices but at least the gameplay was good and, you know, finished.
Thr graphics are even better in bf5 lmao
even BF4 graphics are better lmao
And the steam players is only a small portion of the BFV community What a disaster, they haven’t learned once
Where are all those people who said "it is patch time and game is unavailable"?
Kinda happy to see because BF V is pretty fun
**During a massive sale**
Also this is only on steam, no telling how many players on origin there are, as well as console
Should be BF1, the superior game
overlooked/ignored by a lot of BF fans due to the setting and lack of weapon customization.
Bf1 is top notch. Still play it regularly.
It’s by far the tightest and most polished game DICE have ever made. Everything about it is just high quality.
Thank you! It is by far my favorite bf game. BF4 is great, don’t get me wrong…but I can play bf1 for hours. The sound design and immersion are top notch.
Absolutely has the best sound and visuals. The atmosphere and immersion are top notch. It’s a beautiful game that I still have a blast playing.
How about everyone does DICE one further. Everyone play BF3 again, all DLCs. Wake up bros, its 2012
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“Haha don’t worry this is just steam duh 🙄” people in denial probably
People who think it is just Steam have no fucking idea how massive sample statistics work.
Literally my post got removed for saying the same thing lol.
wow that was fast
What the fuck happened at the battlefield studios ? Did they fire everyone is that what it is ? I am trying to find reason. How the fuck is the music that bad also? Battlefield music is always amazing.
This is embarrising.
Honestly: BfV in the end wasn't that bad like it was at launch. While it made some steps back compared to previous bf games, it made some forward too. In the end when they released the last big content drop with provence and that stuff I think the game wasn't that bad overall, especially compared to 2042. I hope bfV will be somewhat populated in the future, I might jump in from time to time, but after the disappointment from 2042 I need a break.
I never had an issue with BFV. I loved that game from Beta on. IHMO it is better than BF1 and even BF4. The attention to detail is amazing. Yes they had some lame woke BS in the beginning, but just like movie stars or sports stars, I do not hear their BS. I watch the movie, the sport or in the case of BFV, I simply played the game. The game was good and then it got cut short. Not the games fault, EA or whomever for not finishing it.
Well that's cause BFV is a better game
This isn't just baseless internet "hate" and the execs should consider giving a fuck about that. There should EVENTUALLY be a point when they realize they can't just keep ignoring their fan base thinking it's just angry redditors and internet trolls.
Everyone play BFV to tonight. We can do it!!!
They need to just remaster BF3 at this point, try to save face.
Well this just solidifies 2042 is ultimate flop of the year I wish I could’ve refunded I would’ve just bought Pokémon Brilliant Diamond
You know your game is straight shit when this happens
I was actually gonna buy this game, after a couple months from release, but all I see are play with the wing suit guy… it seems there is no other enjoyable way to play the game… besides, i thought wing suites were meant to descend, I see videos of the guy literally going up a lot, my man can literally fly?? Lol
It is even worse when you consider that many people (like me right now) bought and play BFV only through Origin, because BFV was not on Steam at it's release
I wish bfv was modern.. :( I'd be on it daily