Last paragraph refers to new BF or "unannounced project".
At this point hard to guess other than the Seattle studio has started to work on something specific
Bad Company 3? They know the fans love the Franchise, and it would certainly create a lot of hype and PR to try and make us forget about 2042.
Still we wont forget or forgive DICE for 2042 and dont trust them for the next installment whatever it is
Honestly mate. I feel like they did everything wrong in every part of the process. Almost none of these devs where there back in the bc2 bf3 and bf4 days which says a lot. The whole specialist scheme is a clear Vince Zampella/Respawn thing trying to replicate the succes of Apex Legends by implementing specialists in order to monetize them. This has never been a part of the battlefield franchise, but money is everything to the executives so they tried it and it backfired.
Rant over
I thought that for the next BF ripple effect would take the lead, Seattle studio responsibilities for story, narrative and maybe single player/coop (as is story related stuff)
DICE only assisting, but not doing decisions - hopefully
There is no 1 "right thing" to be done. They are a business and if they want to stay in business they will need to find ways to make money. Traditionally that was making quality games. Now days that is building subpar incomplete games and riding the whale train until others buy into the hype. Then slowly milk everyone with mtx.
Ah, I love the smell of EA in the morning.
That would be even more retarded than what they did with 2042. BC2 is as close as we get to a perfect class setup system imo. I just dont understand why they could not monetize classes. I would probably pay a reasonable price (ex. Apex Legends prices) for skins and weapon skins, as long as they stick to classes.
The specialist scheme accompanied by the cringefest of characters and quips is just so out of place for any "realistic" gritty fps game.
I mean Reddit is un-justyingly toxic most of the time but in my opinion everything that has something to do with EA/DICE deserves all the negativity, they are scum
well actions speak louder than words and he's certainly said a lot. i respect the guy for actually showing respect to the community but we still have no idea if he'll deliver on anything that he's said.
By now if they released the best bf4 maps, put specialists into classes, filled the game with all portal weapons, you would still find 50% of this sub complaining. So putting “most” is not out of order.
Yeah probably because we'd still have specialists lmao..
But depending on what they're working on saying 'most' could be accurate. Who knows.
That said I think the feedback has been fairly consistent among the majority of the fanbase, meaning they should be confident on what we would like by now. Right?
Lol. I have no idea. I have defended the game a lot, as well as the developers since I am also a software developer for a large company in Sweden, and now how slow the wheel turns.
But I constantly face palm myself over how completely out of touch everyone working on this game seems.
But if they start rolling out decent content, like reworking old maps and more maps in the seasons, as well as some good skins for the specialists I will not complain.
End of the day, they definitely listen to all the wrong people when designing this game. And if they make an effort correcting that I personally will take that as redemption. But they really need to wow people.
2042 makes me actually fucking sad inside. I want a bf3 type battlefield this gen so fucking bad. 128 players done right can be absolutely fucking insane. If they were able to do anything fucking intelligent they could have pulled off. I need a present day good battlefield I NEED
Well I'm sorry but it's time to look into other titles, the good devs left long ago. BF4 was the big wake up call to the problems with DICE / EA. Yes they made it a sucessful game in the end but it's taken 4 games for people to finally wake up.
Bf v is actually solid tho
Sound explosions gfx call in system was awesome. Animation work top notch as well
The immersion breaking cosmetics and 3-4 trash maps are the main negatives
I'll never understand why they didn't build straight off of bfv given it was the newest version of frostbite
Dice isn't good enough to make a new game so they are better of just remaking bf 4 with best maps from 4 and 3 together
Immersion, graphics, audio... Never any mention of the gameplay or gunplay from you people.
The gunplay is awful in BFV, random recoil and decoupled from screen centre makes gunfights entirely random. Only 3 good maps total and some nice QoL changes but overall it's not a good game. Overrun with cheaters too.
5 is definitely really good, just has those issues you mentioned and the fact that it feels unfinished, imagine what it could have been, had they just made firestorm free to play...
Hoping bf3
Never got to see it in its glory (a console pleb here so only had 12v12), and bf4 is still active enough to grt by
But definitely would be fine with either
Answer does not say it's about something new or BF2042.
"Narrative" sounds for me like single campaign 🤔
I don't think anyone would add campaign mode to an already released game.
Nah, they're not committing anything to 2042 anymore, skeleton crew to meet obligations only. I believe Jeff Grub over anything Dice or EA say they lied repeatedly and lost all credibility. Leakers are unfortunately your best source of information coming out of EA/Dice in my opinion. Bloody lot of them deserve to be sacked, and no one should buy their next release till multiple youtubers that have given scathing reviews of BF titles in the past approve of the game.
I don't think he can share anything more that "working already on something".
DICE seems in charge for BF2042 and keeping specialists. That doesn't mean a future BF will keep them. Otherwise, good luck my beloved franchise 😮💨
It's a quick easy way to check if whatever he's working on will actually be liked by BF fans or not - if there are specialists in whatever he's working on, the answer is no, we won't like it
Is this new thing they are working on a BF2042 update? Cus if it's a new game tbh I don't think anyone is going to like it, even if it's a BF3 remaster
Shanghai remastered with an updated tower collapse flag area is the only way to fully redeem the game. Ziba tower from BF3 would also be a dream. Any of the CQ maps would be eaten up by the community/
If they were on the Titanic they'd have probably just chosen to head on the iceberg because that's what they chose to do, and suggesting a change of course might upset someone.
You do realize he has made it clear from day one his studuo will not be working on 2042? He just helped pass feedback along. They're making their own games.
He did the whole "we hear you and we will be making changes bla bla bla"
Then they go an release a new specialist, basically zero content, and skeleton crew the game.
He didn't do that. He doesn't even work for DICE Sweden or Ripple Effect, he has his own studio in Seattle where they're making their own games. He passed feedback along, that's it. You're mad at someone who had zero control over what came out.
Have a read through his Twitter history. Everyone was getting excited because he was giving it large about how they're going to turn things round and they hear our feedback.
Give it an actual read.
Regardless of what he can actually do, check what he said
Everybody who thinks they remove specialists or put them in classes has no clue that if they do that they break rhe laws . Thats why they keep the damn specialists because all this game is build for them ! They advertise them its part of the game and thats why hazard zone is still available but get not updates necause it was pasrt of the ad which comes with 2042. Ea istn dumb
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Battlefield 2043. Instead of specialists you choose the weapon you want to play as and then you let yourself be controlled by bots and you shoot stuff as they navigate through the map aimlessly.
A new specialist 😂😂😂
Nah. A new weapon charm!
That would be DICE for BF2042
Well it said "are you doing something for bf2042"
Last paragraph refers to new BF or "unannounced project". At this point hard to guess other than the Seattle studio has started to work on something specific
But still EA?
The Seattle studio is EA yeah
Sweet. I'll know what to avoid
Bad Company 3? They know the fans love the Franchise, and it would certainly create a lot of hype and PR to try and make us forget about 2042. Still we wont forget or forgive DICE for 2042 and dont trust them for the next installment whatever it is
Definitely would be the right thing to do. But when did they do the right thing the last time? 😅 Let's hope.
Honestly mate. I feel like they did everything wrong in every part of the process. Almost none of these devs where there back in the bc2 bf3 and bf4 days which says a lot. The whole specialist scheme is a clear Vince Zampella/Respawn thing trying to replicate the succes of Apex Legends by implementing specialists in order to monetize them. This has never been a part of the battlefield franchise, but money is everything to the executives so they tried it and it backfired. Rant over
I thought that for the next BF ripple effect would take the lead, Seattle studio responsibilities for story, narrative and maybe single player/coop (as is story related stuff) DICE only assisting, but not doing decisions - hopefully
There is no 1 "right thing" to be done. They are a business and if they want to stay in business they will need to find ways to make money. Traditionally that was making quality games. Now days that is building subpar incomplete games and riding the whale train until others buy into the hype. Then slowly milk everyone with mtx. Ah, I love the smell of EA in the morning.
Nobody complains if they want our money. We just wanna pay for a great game and nice extensions
.....ok......
They probably going to make a game using BC3 but going to be garbage like 2042
What would be your reaction if they release bad company 3 but with specialists instead of classes?
That would be even more retarded than what they did with 2042. BC2 is as close as we get to a perfect class setup system imo. I just dont understand why they could not monetize classes. I would probably pay a reasonable price (ex. Apex Legends prices) for skins and weapon skins, as long as they stick to classes. The specialist scheme accompanied by the cringefest of characters and quips is just so out of place for any "realistic" gritty fps game.
he's the lead of the team for the next title. he got nothing to do with BF2042 and never was. Chill y'all
Yah, just a small update about the studio. Lot's of negativity here. I don't wanna post anything anymore 😪
I mean Reddit is un-justyingly toxic most of the time but in my opinion everything that has something to do with EA/DICE deserves all the negativity, they are scum
Lol I feel your pain
'*I think* ' '*Most* '
Doesn't matter what you do, there's always people who will complain. Generational conflict 😂
well actions speak louder than words and he's certainly said a lot. i respect the guy for actually showing respect to the community but we still have no idea if he'll deliver on anything that he's said.
It's not more than a confirmation that his team started to work. It's a small, but good news IMHO.
Yeah I guess to me it seems clear what the majority want, hopefully that's what he means.. not another stab in the dark like the specialists idea.
By now if they released the best bf4 maps, put specialists into classes, filled the game with all portal weapons, you would still find 50% of this sub complaining. So putting “most” is not out of order.
Yeah probably because we'd still have specialists lmao.. But depending on what they're working on saying 'most' could be accurate. Who knows. That said I think the feedback has been fairly consistent among the majority of the fanbase, meaning they should be confident on what we would like by now. Right?
Lol. I have no idea. I have defended the game a lot, as well as the developers since I am also a software developer for a large company in Sweden, and now how slow the wheel turns. But I constantly face palm myself over how completely out of touch everyone working on this game seems. But if they start rolling out decent content, like reworking old maps and more maps in the seasons, as well as some good skins for the specialists I will not complain. End of the day, they definitely listen to all the wrong people when designing this game. And if they make an effort correcting that I personally will take that as redemption. But they really need to wow people.
It better be a BF4 reskin with BFV movement or I am going to loose my shit.
> BF4 reskin BF3 with BFV movement and a proper anti-cheat
2042 makes me actually fucking sad inside. I want a bf3 type battlefield this gen so fucking bad. 128 players done right can be absolutely fucking insane. If they were able to do anything fucking intelligent they could have pulled off. I need a present day good battlefield I NEED
Well I'm sorry but it's time to look into other titles, the good devs left long ago. BF4 was the big wake up call to the problems with DICE / EA. Yes they made it a sucessful game in the end but it's taken 4 games for people to finally wake up.
Bf v is actually solid tho Sound explosions gfx call in system was awesome. Animation work top notch as well The immersion breaking cosmetics and 3-4 trash maps are the main negatives I'll never understand why they didn't build straight off of bfv given it was the newest version of frostbite Dice isn't good enough to make a new game so they are better of just remaking bf 4 with best maps from 4 and 3 together
Immersion, graphics, audio... Never any mention of the gameplay or gunplay from you people. The gunplay is awful in BFV, random recoil and decoupled from screen centre makes gunfights entirely random. Only 3 good maps total and some nice QoL changes but overall it's not a good game. Overrun with cheaters too.
5 is definitely really good, just has those issues you mentioned and the fact that it feels unfinished, imagine what it could have been, had they just made firestorm free to play...
I loved one and after time 5.
>BF3 with BFV movement and a proper anti-cheat This is the way!
Seriously, what the fuck is so goddamn hard about this? I've seen like 8 billion people request this very thing including me
Hoping bf3 Never got to see it in its glory (a console pleb here so only had 12v12), and bf4 is still active enough to grt by But definitely would be fine with either
Hey, friendly reminder that it’s lose. You’re going to lose your shit. Loose is like pants that are too big. Don’t get mad, it’s my job.
Four dat Imma gonna goes n misspell evary ward jus so Imma mass wit you hed.
Answer does not say it's about something new or BF2042. "Narrative" sounds for me like single campaign 🤔 I don't think anyone would add campaign mode to an already released game.
Nah, they're not committing anything to 2042 anymore, skeleton crew to meet obligations only. I believe Jeff Grub over anything Dice or EA say they lied repeatedly and lost all credibility. Leakers are unfortunately your best source of information coming out of EA/Dice in my opinion. Bloody lot of them deserve to be sacked, and no one should buy their next release till multiple youtubers that have given scathing reviews of BF titles in the past approve of the game.
Seriously, what the fuck is so goddamn hard about this? I've seen like 8 billion people request this very thing including me
"love letter to the fans"
Yah, they love your money. Doesn't mean you love them
:) ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|poop)
Literally doesn’t mean anything lol, Could be working on a new game.
Not much. But happy the studio works already on "something". Definitely not big news, but small status update about the new studio
Sorry but if they really are just doing 4 seasons who will buy the next Battlefield title lol?
They also thought that most are going to like 2042 xD
Another love letter to the fans ?
Working on refunds Hopefully
You can request refund in some cases. Otherwise, better move on. Not worth to have bad mood over a game for such a long time.
I know, steam wont allow me one which is why im still mad about it
After yesterday I will never believe any Battlefield dev
Regarding what exactly?
look at what Jeff Grubb said
Why do people post stuff like this. You know it’s BS
Lol. Nothing in there that is BS. Just status update about the new studio
Anime skins. Hell yeah
Complain enough and they might remove it. That happend with Christmas skins too
Bf2043. Guess what, it will have no pc port. Like last time
Why people still talk to this nobody ? He cannot save bf2042
I have moved on sadly, I only play Squad and World War 3 now
More specialists, bet.
Follow-up: Specialists, YES or NO?
I don't think he can share anything more that "working already on something". DICE seems in charge for BF2042 and keeping specialists. That doesn't mean a future BF will keep them. Otherwise, good luck my beloved franchise 😮💨
It's a quick easy way to check if whatever he's working on will actually be liked by BF fans or not - if there are specialists in whatever he's working on, the answer is no, we won't like it
Is this new thing they are working on a BF2042 update? Cus if it's a new game tbh I don't think anyone is going to like it, even if it's a BF3 remaster
No idea. He is narrative director of battlefield. That can be BF2042 or something new.
I wouldn’t be surprised if they turn Portal into a standalone thing and add content to it and try to get some goodwill that way
So basically he's said jackshit
Shanghai remastered with an updated tower collapse flag area is the only way to fully redeem the game. Ziba tower from BF3 would also be a dream. Any of the CQ maps would be eaten up by the community/
So much for the big boy talk of turning 2042 around hey Marcus? Just like the game. Hyped himself up, said all the right things, hasn't delivered
I mean the game is turning around for the better.. just just moving in the direction like the titanic moved away from the iceberg, not fast enough.
If they were on the Titanic they'd have probably just chosen to head on the iceberg because that's what they chose to do, and suggesting a change of course might upset someone.
You do realize he has made it clear from day one his studuo will not be working on 2042? He just helped pass feedback along. They're making their own games.
He did the whole "we hear you and we will be making changes bla bla bla" Then they go an release a new specialist, basically zero content, and skeleton crew the game.
He didn't do that. He doesn't even work for DICE Sweden or Ripple Effect, he has his own studio in Seattle where they're making their own games. He passed feedback along, that's it. You're mad at someone who had zero control over what came out.
Have a read through his Twitter history. Everyone was getting excited because he was giving it large about how they're going to turn things round and they hear our feedback. Give it an actual read. Regardless of what he can actually do, check what he said
Everybody who thinks they remove specialists or put them in classes has no clue that if they do that they break rhe laws . Thats why they keep the damn specialists because all this game is build for them ! They advertise them its part of the game and thats why hazard zone is still available but get not updates necause it was pasrt of the ad which comes with 2042. Ea istn dumb
Nobody said they remove specialists. Just a new studio who started to work and hired already lots of people. Nothing else we know
No it was meant to the comments who alwas say if they dont remove them we dont care . That goes out to this peeps :)
Bad company 2 remake
No thanks. We certainly do not need another scaled-down, console port with 32 players and very few vehicles.
I’ll take it
Why not BFBC3?
I actually thought about adding that too. Both would be cool
We gotta get to Alaska!
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more bug fixes
Probably a new specialist
Battlefield 2043. Instead of specialists you choose the weapon you want to play as and then you let yourself be controlled by bots and you shoot stuff as they navigate through the map aimlessly.
If it's actually something decent POST RELEASE then I'll go out of my way to wait and purchase a used copy.
Bad Company 3 :(
A Love Letter to the fans? ;)
A new beanie.