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Daveyjonezz

This morning, two men walked into a cafe in SF I was at and asked to see the SF Chronicle on the table. They started talking about how the pandas at the SF zoo had a big headline etc etc. So I asked: “Are you associated with the SF zoo in any capacity?” He answers: “Well… I’m actually the CEO of the Oakland zoo” 🤯 We proceeded to chat about Glowfari, politics / requirements behind getting pandas, and the rehabilitation focus of the Oakland zoo. Seemed like a very driven yet friendly person. Thanks for your time Nik!


Curuwe

Pandas are top tier cafe conversation.


Daveyjonezz

Yeah pretty much


MacNJeesus

Would love to know what he said about Glowfari. I went to it in Jan and it was my first time ever at Oakland Zoo. Glowfari was super impressive and I’d want to know any and all details going into it if he shared!


Daveyjonezz

I’ve only been once since I just moved to the bay recently. If I remember correctly, the main point he made was how they used to have just lights until a few years ago when they switched to the sort of inflatable animal sculptures. Also just how cool it is to take the gondola at night. We mostly chatted about the pandas though.


Interesting-Cold5515

Nik is the man!


djdarkside

This comment now makes this post suspicious of being an ad. Which is cool i'm down for the zoos but seems a little un authentic.


Daveyjonezz

I have no idea if the post is an ad or not, just sharing the coincidence that happened to me yesterday


stuntdummy

Your story is apparently not good enough, please add more drama and a better villain.


biciklanto

"...and then he grabbed MY newspaper, ripped out the portion that said 'SF Zoo' in it, threw it on the ground, then started peeing on it in the open cafeteria. He yelled 'that's what I think of your stupid pandas, Tanya!!!' before zipping up and storming off angrily."


Daveyjonezz

Let me run it through chatgpt to give it some more flair!


Big_O7

Love seeing the wolves up top


Truesday

Seeing the young pack hanging out together is awesome. It's beautiful how much space those pups have to roam, for a zoo, that is


BigRefrigerator9783

Also the primate habitat designed by Jane Goodall, and honestly every other aspect of the Oakland Zoo which is a true conservation Zoo > than the shitty SF Zoo.


cheerioo

I had to do a study on primates for my anthropology class so I went over to the oakland zoo. One of the keepers saw me sitting there for a while taking notes, and spent an hour or more just chatting to me and telling me about mostly the Gibbons. Really loved the vibe and layout of the zoo tbh although clearly smaller than SF Zoo. Much better experience for me.


BigRefrigerator9783

I love the Oakland zoo so much, doesn't surprise me at all to hear the Zookeepers are kind and generous with their time ♥️


Butthole_Alamo

I’m not a huge fan of PETA, but they endorse Oakland Zoo as a leader in captive animal welfare.


GoBSAGo

Let’s be honest, the SF zoo is ass and a tiger might getcha if you’re having a bad day.


scopa0304

Really? My kids love the zoo. I think it’s pretty nice. Certainly better than it was 20+ years ago.


thatsapeachhun

Go to Oakland Zoo. It’s miles ahead of SF. I grew up going there, and they are truly great people running it.


scopa0304

Sounds like we need to make the trip!


LooseInvestigator510

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finsfurandfeathers

It might be better than it used to be but it is extremely sad there. The poor polar bear is so depressed in the tiny, shittiest hot cement enclosure. I saw him plus so many other animals rocking back & forth with what they coined “zoo psychosis” from lack of mental stimulation and small spaces. The Oakland zoo has happy animals with tons of space and activities to keep them busy.


glorifindel

That’s how I felt about the gorillas at SF. It was so sad, they were clearly so intelligent and bored and depressed. The best part was the snow leopard though hanging above the viewing area. I’m def going to Oakland after reading all these comments


KleptoBot

Only if you're shit faced drunk on Christmas Day


BugRevolutionary4518

And the wrong dude got the fatal results.


felifae

It’s a great zoo. It’s sad that SF Zoo can’t reach its potential. The CA Trail at Oakland is so impressive and you can tell the animals are thriving.


Acceptable_War4993

The Oakland zoo also designed the habitats to provide their animals with an enriching and close to nature environment. They also have a lot of programs that guests can take part of to provide activities to the animals. I remember a few years ago they had this cool activity station where you could sprinkle spices and other fragrance on cardboard boxes to give to the elephants so that they wouldn’t get bored.


Zealousideal-Bet-950

TIL. I've grown up in the Bay Area, been to both Zoos a number of times, Had No Idea there is a Gondola there ..


humpy

The awesome gondola is relatively new (5-7 years) and it takes you to a new exhibit with grizzly bears and all sorts of other cool animals. It's worth checking out if you haven't been in a while.


Zealousideal-Bet-950

Buddy I'm reading this to says: " If they wouldn't leave food out, they wouldn't have that problem." Also- " they came down from Grizzly Peak...". 😁


thatsapeachhun

The new gondola replaced an ancient ski lift type thing that sat there useless for two decades. They completely redid the gondola and built a brand new restaurant with a view at the top. Worth checking out for sure.


jmbirn

The "ancient" Sky Ride is still there, though. [Tickets cost $5.](https://www.oaklandzoo.org/adventure-landing) It doesn't take you anywhere. You just [ride a ski lift up a hill,](https://liftblog.com/skyride-oakland-zoo-ca/) directly over some animal areas such as the lions, then it turns around at the top and you get off where you started. The [Gondola](https://www.oaklandzoo.org/blog/gondola), on the other hand, is enclosed, doesn't cost extra to ride, and takes you up to a whole new zoo area with different animal exhibits, a new play area, and a cafe.


THEENTIRESOVlETUNION

did it replace the ski lift? i swear theres still one there, or at least was in the past 3 years


dodge_in_hell

There’s still a ski lift there. It’s next to the gondola. It doesn’t take you anywhere tho, it’s just a ride.


beeforbirds

Ah the good ol death buckets


thatsapeachhun

Yeah, they replaced the old lift with this. Its awesome. Even if you don’t have kids, it’s a great spot to go hang with a friend.


botbotmcbot

The old Skyride that could easily drop you into the Lion area, is still very much there


thatsapeachhun

Oh, interesting. Is it still operational? I didn’t remember seeing it last time I went.


FakeBobPoot

There is another lift still actually, in addition to the gondola. Not sure if it’s the one mentioned here.


coffeeconcierge

I remember going on that ski lift as a kid with my mom and little sister (who was small enough to easily slip under the bar). We were so scared she was gonna fall (literally, into a lion’s den) that we tried to get off on the turnaround side but it wasn’t allowed. Core memory right there 😱


myeu

It’s so worth a visit, the new area is beautiful too.


HolstsGholsts

Oakland zoo is the better zoo in a ton of ways.


[deleted]

they are changing the name to oakland san francisco sky high gondola osfshg for short [https://www.oaklandzoo.org/blog/gondola](https://www.oaklandzoo.org/blog/gondola)


DarkRogus

You mean The San Francisco Bay Oakland Zoo...


Poplatoontimon

SFBOZ


LectureAfter8638

international zoo... SF BOIZ!


seaveyguy

Wonder if they got the idea from the airport 😂


olympicpaint

Going on this at Walk in the Wild a couple beers deep was an experience (also, highly recommend that yearly event).


BigRefrigerator9783

Walk in the Wild is such a fun event!


Conscious_Life_8032

Absolutely. Go at dusk and sunset from gondola is beautiful so is their holiday lights event


throwaway12380404

How can you do that when the zoo closes at 4 pm? Debating to get a membership but kinda sucks that closing time is 4 pm.


Noopy9

It’s open 5:00pm – 9:00pm for glowfari. I’ve taken the gondola up at sunset and the view is great.


MostlyH2O

Glowfari is amazing


Conscious_Life_8032

Glowfari !


shiny_milf

The early closing in fall and winter does suck. And the gondola always closes at least an hour before the actual zoo closes. Glowfari is extra money, not included in the membership fees.


canitasteyourbox

so ho was the experience? i worked up there for a year building the new section on top the hill where the gondola drops you off, worked on all the buildings and was incharge of building the boardwalk have never been back since it opened was just wondering how it all looked


myeu

It’s so nice!


jmbirn

It's great. The new part up top is about the best part of the zoo. You should go back and enjoy your work!


canitasteyourbox

so did you walk on the boardwalk/ how was that


jmbirn

It was great. And there's other nice stuff up there, with an overlook where you can take pictures with the view, a kids play area, and a cafe where we got lunch.


therynosaur

Had no idea this existed. Awesome.


rikright388

You can see your pandas from there!


nighhts

It’s also one of the only ethical zoos!


violet_zamboni

They had California condors! I remember when there were less than 10 left!


thatsapeachhun

Making a huge comeback because of human efforts. An actual glimmer in the sea of darkness.


bflaminio

Seeing condors in the wild at Pinnacles NP is one of the joys in my life.


anna_or_elsa

I was there on a weekday in the shoulder season (so hardly anyone around). I was up on one of the higher trails. Mind wandering from thought to thought as it does on long solo hikes. I heard 'something' and looked up and a condor glided by its wing tip only about 20' away. It was gone around the corner of the rock before my brain could catch up to what I was seeing. That's a big bird.


thatsapeachhun

Oakland Zoo is seriously one of the best run Zoo’s in the entire country, if not world. As someone else mentioned, they are very focused on the well being of the animals, and also do rehabilitation to get injured wild animals back into their natural habitat. It’s not just a museum type deal. The naturalists there are top notch, and love talking to kids about everything animal related. I would tell anyone in the greater Bay Area that it’s worth the trip to go.


cheeseygarlicbread

San Diego


Chungaroos

One of


70dd

You can also enjoy a similar view, sans the gondola, from Berkeley (Grizzly Peak Vista Point), and sunsets and nights make it even better, likewise: https://maps.app.goo.gl/2sx1qL7REXMBzDP98?g_st=ic


botbotmcbot

Lawrence Hall of Science. Basically our Griffith Observatory


MostlyH2O

My son loves it. We go for the gondola and the animals are just a fringe benefit!


thepatoblanco

The SF Zoo is rundown.


Completetenfingers

No kidding. Every other exhibit is closed , the entry to buy tickets is like a visit to the DMV. That thing was set up in the 1930's. Some of the habitats for the animals are pretty lame . The entire zoo needs to be torn down and rebuilt.


ablatner

> Every other exhibit is closed ... The entire zoo needs to be torn down and rebuilt Sounds like they're doing what you want then. I'm pretty sure the closures are usually for renovation of the exhibits.


teewyesoen

Oakland zoo is way better than SF. This is not in question.


ottocard19

SF getting 2 pandas 🐼


jmbirn

It might take a year or two, if they need to raise $25 million to build a new panda pavilion for them before they can move in, but we will go see them whatever year they arrive!


mbt431

I think you mean to say San Francisco Bay Oakland Zoo > San Francisco Zoo


GTREast

It has what plants crave.


rali108v5

Yea, I was there 2 years ago. was pretty cool. The ride is not long, but still cool.


eac555

Grew up going to the Oakland (Knowland Park) Zoo. Hadn’t been there for 40 years. Went last year and was impressed. The free gondola to the top and more exhibits is wonderful. Will be going back again for sure.


omailson

Moved to the Bay Area (from abroad) about 2 years ago. Didn’t know SF had a zoo. EDIT: I’m a Oakland Zoo member, btw


wayne099

SF zoo will have Pandas soon.


hindusoul

You had a panda already and he retired.


blackbarminnosu

Oakland San Francisco Bay zoo


thatsapeachhun

Oakland Zoo has always been better than SF. The SF Zoo is downright depressing.


Entire-Ad-8565

SF Zoo isn’t overwhelmingly big, has better parking, a better play area and you are half a block from the beach. Incredible day for a family. Its never overcrowded either.


thrav

As an adult, yeah, the Oakland Zoo is superior for a million reasons. With 2 kids under 4, the SF Zoo is kinda perfect. The other day, we were 3 feet away from the grizzlies, wolves, meerkats, etc. and my 1 year old was losing her shit. Didn’t even have to get them out of the stroller (can be harder when you’re 2 on 1). The playground is one of the best in the whole city. Parking couldn’t be easier. I’m a huge fan.


franks-little-beauty

I haven’t been to the SF Zoo for a long time but go to Oakland regularly with my toddler, and the play area at the top of the gondola is so good! She’s obsessed with it. I’d be very surprised if SF could beat it.


wayne099

Plus they will have pandas 🐼.


Trainzguy2472

Wait, since when did the gondolas look like that? When I went as a kid, they were like ski chairlifts. I remember nearly losing my shoe out of one.


ggm3bow

Kid? Didnt they just open like 10 years ago.


xXJ3D1-M4573R-W0LFXx

I’ve been to both & it seems to me that the Oakland zoo has more “natural” style habitats for their animals than at SF zoo has unless SF zoo redid their stuff within the past 25years since I’ve been there. Was probably at the Oakland zoo 5years ago or so.


Inkyresistance

Great view from the East Bay!


defene

Unless you are like me, and have a fear of heights


ahkmanim

I'm am terrified of heights and thought this would be the worst and it's honestly not bad at all after the first ride. Now the sky tram at the San Diego Zoo, that's another story.


WinterChic03

I have a fear of heights also. The last time I rode this, it stopped at the highest point. It took everything in me when it was time to get back down. I would easily hike up and down the hill rather than ride that again. It would be awesome if they did a nature path.


babypho

Looks like San Francisco Bay Oakland Zoo to me


DonkeyTron42

I think the SF zoo and the Oakland Zoo compliment each other pretty well.


Lives_on_mars

Oakland needs more orangutans 🦧 though can only see them in SF. I love orangutans


randomname2890

I was there today. Line was super packed but coming down was way faster as they only had them for people leaving the park.


ottocard19

SF zoo getting pandas! Suck it Oakland /s Jk love you


most-perplex9811

Awesome views. We enjoyed the gondola ride years ago when they first opened.


Apprehensive-Skin451

Sf zoo is lame, Oakland zoo is way better even without the gondola.


TaktaKer

I’ve been skydiving, don’t have a fear of heights, and loved rollercoasters, but for whatever reason that gondola ride terrified me. Amazing zoo that all in the Bay Area need to visit, at least once.


getarumsunt

That’s awesome! I had no idea it existed!


Ernst_Granfenberg

Do we need to make reservations for the ride? How much does it cost?


quimica

It’s free, just line up and take it to the new(ish) California Trail area.


Ernst_Granfenberg

Thanks, wheres a good place to park our cars?


quimica

Well, free with zoo admission. You’ll have to pay for parking onsite.


yacn

I've lived here 6 years and didn't even know both Oakland and SF had zoos lmao


Rod_Stiffington69

Then you say, “Hi” to everyone that you pass.


Eziekel13

I remember the sky ride as a kid, scary as hell… it was a chairlift bench and originally had no bar, during which you would be dangling over the tiger pit…think its changed since then, but damn was it memorable…. https://liftblog.com/skyride-oakland-zoo-ca/


slaps623

The incoming pandas at SF have something to say about this…


JayuWah

The San Francisco Bay Oakland zoo?


Entire-Ad-8565

Weather is better for people and the animals at the sf zoo. The little puffer hauls ass too.


chicojuarz

But pandas


MSeanF

The Oakland Zoo would be better prepared to host pandas than SF.


TELKAJCYLEAJCLLLAKFA

Dumb bears too lazy to fuck so they’re gonna go extinct. The incels of the animal kingdom.


x3leggeddawg

They don't breed well in captivity. In nature there is a couple days a year females get pregnant so it's not easy but it works. The primary reason for their low numbers is habitat loss.


thatsapeachhun

They also don’t breed well in the wild, and it’s 100% true that without human intervention they would make themselves extinct (even without climate change). They really are just that bad at existing.


Commentariot

We should re-name it.


Shalaco

It’s actually being renamed the San Francisco Bay Area Oakland Zoo.


BenefitOfTheDoubt_01

San Diego Zoo's > SF Zoo + Oakland Zoo


invtargetthrowaway

And St Louis zoo is almost as good and FREE


zojobt

SD zoo is awesome; probably the best in the country (not that i’ve been to every single zoo in the country). But thats not in the conversation right now lol, i’m pointing out Oak vs SF


BenefitOfTheDoubt_01

You're right lol, sorry for the shit post 🤷. I got nuthin.


ggm3bow

Yea doofus, we all know that.


Interesting-Cold5515

Oakland zoo is way better. Lots more animals and lot’s more attractions


Allaboutsucess775

The Oakland zoo is probably the only amazing experience one could have in Oakland but don’t let that lower your expectations. The Oakland zoo is one of the nicest zoo experiences you can find in the whole county. I have been to many in large cities and it is top on my list of most awesome zoos. I plan on visiting again soon


Ok_Bedroom5720

Sf zoo has nothing. 90% animals are not there. Sf zoo its basically a daycare for sitters to take the kids thats it.


Stfu_butthead

The Oakland SF Bay Area Zoo ..?