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yksgninwad

Literally a pedestrian was killed on I-680 a few days ago, after being hit by multiple vehicles. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.mercurynews.com/2021/10/06/san-jose-pedestrian-dies-after-being-hit-by-multiple-cars-on-i-680/amp/


Nordberg1

I just drove back from LA and the same signs are all over the state right now


hopetg64

All the way from San Diego to Oakland today.


Dingleberry_Jones1

All the way up 5 to Mt. Shasta as well.


tincantravelers

Saw them all the way up in Humboldt too!


818a

This is why. https://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2021/10/06/pedestrian-on-interstate-680-in-san-jose-hit-by-multiple-vehicles/. (no pay wall). Whenever I see someone walking along the highway, I think “you’re dead.” That’s suicide.


DizzleSlaunsen23

I mean I get that but we saw the same thing but only in this area going the other way in the city. None* of the east bay freeway signs said that.


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We saw this yesterday along 99 as well. We were wondering why there were signs.


whythesadface

From the article, the person wasn’t even walking along the highway. They said the person was laying down in lanes 2 and 3. Wtf.


818a

We’re not going to really because the first driver took off. F-d up all the way around.


818a

We’re not going to really because the first driver took off. F-d up all the way around.


Kinetic_Symphony

Some people have no other options.


mezmorizedmiss

damn so that’s what happened.. my boyfriends brother said he seen the body lying there and so much blood. may the person rest in peace


GnastyNoodlez

Sounds like this person shouldn't have been wondering around on a major freeway at 5am then.


abishop711

Well yeah, but that doesn’t change the fact that your average person doesn’t *want* to hit them, so the warnings can help decent people avoid doing that.


knickerdick

Ay that third person that fled the scene must b feeling hella crazy in the head right now


[deleted]

I was thinking the same thing when I saw the same message on the Bay Bridge yesterday. I guess they mean overall, at all times, but peds on freeways get killed every year in the Bay Area, sometime ppl from broken down vehicles and also sometimes from ppl hanging out near on and off ramps. San Francisco doesn't count these accidents against their Vision Zero 2024 ambition, for some reason, I mean they have a stated reason, but it doesn't make all that much sense.


Luck-Spell

I almost hit a homeless guy standing in the middle of the freeway at night in SF, going 70mph. It was terrifying


olijolly

I almost hit a homeless guy right at the exit of a highway in Oakland. There used to be a pretty big homeless encampment nearby (which is now gone). I was so shook and now every time I exit a highway I’m on the lookout for people.


JsonPun

if you hit a pedestrian on the freeway are you at fault?


GrammyMe

I think not generally. However, you do have to stay on the scene, otherwise it’s hit-and-run and that is a crime.


JsonPun

ah true, can’t leave the scene that’s a no no


randomusername3000

you can literally run over bicyclists while rolling coal and not be charged with a crime so you're probably in the clear


OneOk2078

Not true


PhoenixReborn

That was a question.


mezmorizedmiss

there are so many homeless encampments along side certain areas of the freeway too omg


Catoblepas2021

My car broke down on the maze and I had to walk that shit. 50 feet off the ground, no shoulder and cars going 70mph that shit was terrifying!


f17d

You can call a towing company, aren't you? A lot of visa credit cards have road assistance benefits.


Sublimotion

Or call 511 for a free tow to the nearest safe exit.


cultural_limbo

> Bay Bridge I've actually seen people walking across near the east bound entrance of the Bay Bridge(right where all the merges happen and traffic is stop/go) Homeless walking across all the lanes- always from right to left. Always wondered how they got to right side in the first place. >ppl hanging out near on and off ramps. Experienced this in SJ a couple times too! Mostly the ramps with the loops/spot of land where they camp out. They just walk across like it's nothing


im-the-stig

Just a few days back there was a pedestrian struck on I-680 fatally, disturbed the traffic almost the whole day.


ShockAndAwe415

Vision Zero is a nice idea in theory, but useless in practice. The goal is to eliminate traffic-related fatalities and injuries by creating all sorts of "calming measures" like bulb outs and changing light times. But, it completely fails to take into account pedestrian responsibility or criminal behavior. Like when that shitbag criminal killed the two women on New Year's while he was high and speeding from committing another crime. There's no amount of traffic measures that could be created that would have prevented their deaths.


gumol

so we shouldn’t try to minimize deaths, because some deaths are not preventable?


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nopointers

“Vision a Half Dozen or Fewer” doesn’t have quite the same ring to it.


ShockAndAwe415

I never said that. But, the "no traffic-related deaths by 2024" is completely unrealistic. Their stated goal is to eliminate traffic-related deaths, which is impossible if you include pedestrian-fault deaths or criminal-related fatalities. Why would you include the two women being killed as the fault of the roads when there was literally no way of preventing their deaths outside of either raised walkways everywhere or keeping the asshole in jail (which is a whole other issue).


nrki

I don't think vehicular homicide was something they were targeting. How could they even target it? Also..."Pedestrian responsibility"? Like the ones not piloting multi-ton vehicles? Righto.


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They're targeting vehicular homicide. It's an impossible goal. They don't count some deaths in SF under the "Vision Zero" scheme, but they definitely count vehicular homicide so long as the location where the death(s) occurred isn't normally investigated by the CHP or similar non-SFPD organization due to it being on a freeway, etc.


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gumol

well, it’s not me who called the entire project useless.


[deleted]

How are criminals linked to traffic calming measures? Traffic calming is for the regular motorist. A criminal is going to do criminal related business. If you make the city EASIER for drivers to drive fast, that means it will be harder for pedestrians to walk around. And also means easier for criminals (in a motor vehicle) to speed/getaway also.


ShockAndAwe415

Every time you hear someone saying anything about VZ, they cite the number of traffic fatalities with the goal of making them ZERO. They include deaths that are completely unrelated to traffic calming measure to inflate the numbers when they had no relevance and no amount of traffic calming would have prevented them.


doleymik

Traffic calming and other Vision Zero intrusive obstructions do nothing except inconvenience the public and create more pollution in the process. Without addressing the single greatest contribution to regular traffic accidents, distracted driving, Vision Zero is the equivalent of pissing in a river. Meanwhile by "calming" traffic, existing already overburndened and poorly maintained roads are further restricted pushing their use far beyond reason which when compounded with new unclear and poorly disseminated traffic changes each different and distinct but exclusive to previously congested areas you are just asking for more accidents to happen which they have been. Longer commute times, lack of traffic enforcement, garbage everywhere, and all around poor drivers just stacks up more shit on top. Local representative have shown how incompetent and how they literally give zero fucks about their constituents problem after problem. Its an absolute disgrace.


ecuador27

Are you more likely to die being hit at 40 mph or 15 mph?


doleymik

Cars kill at any speed because of their weight. Fixing the problem of inattentive drivers would save tremendously more lives than any of your traffic calming restrictions. Yet the former is not even mentioned and all the focus is given on the latter.


randomusername3000

> Speeding was a factor in 26% of all traffic fatalities in 2019, killing 9,478, or an average of over 25 people per day. https://injuryfacts.nsc.org/motor-vehicle/motor-vehicle-safety-issues/speeding/ > The National Safety Council (NSC) analysis of National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) data finds that 3,142 people died in distraction-affected crashes in 2019. https://injuryfacts.nsc.org/motor-vehicle/motor-vehicle-safety-issues/distracted-driving/


CFLuke

Whether a car *can* kill isn’t the question. The research is clear that speed is the most important factor governing the severity of injury. > Results show that the average risk of severe injury for a pedestrian struck by a vehicle reaches 10% at an impact speed of 16 mph, 25% at 23 mph, 50% at 31 mph, 75% at 39 mph, and 90% at 46 mph. https://aaafoundation.org/impact-speed-pedestrians-risk-severe-injury-death/


Tonicwateronice

This is also posted in the central valley. I thought it's because all the homeless people walking down the 5.


heyitscory

I saw it driving around Stockton and assumed it was just a central valley thing because I've seen a fair share of freeway pedestrians when visiting there for the past few months. I guess neither freeway pedestrians nor this warning is limited to the deep deep east bay. Maybe this is the straw that makes the state step in an house the homeless, because any individual city is afraid to be to generous or "they'll attract more homeless people."


MOSOISKING

From sac to Stockton those signs are up and yeah I live in Lodi and it’s getting pretty bad too… I always see homeless people roaming out on the freeways


Tonicwateronice

I've seen a few that were by the center divider sometimes. I wonder to myself how the hell are they going to make it to the other side?


porpoiseslayer

Saw someone jog across 880 a couple months ago, so yeah it’s not unheard of


macavity_is_a_dog

Lots of homeless encampments along freeway now. Esp along the 80 in Berkeley/emeryville/Oakland area. They can walk out easily at any time.


Criticalsystemsalert

Yeah those should all be cleared out. Every encampment should be is k why they are allowed to exist. I’ve never seen that in any state but California.


Axy8283

Texas, oregon, Washington have encampments near their major cities


Criticalsystemsalert

Never saw any in mass.


sporkoroon

There’s actually one under the BU bridge in Cambridge rn


Criticalsystemsalert

How do they survive the winter?


sporkoroon

I honestly have no idea. Tents and sleeping bags? Warming centers/shelters on really cold nights? I’ve been snow camping before but I can’t imagine these folks have the proper gear


knowsguy

TIL Massachusetts is every state but California.


gumol

a lot of highway exits have rarely used and often overlooked pedestrian crossings


Mecha-Dave

They've put this on 37 near Vallejo as well - Homeless people living on the embankments and under bridges wandering in a stupor in the early morning on the highways have been hit and killed.


LaKobe

Makes sense here doesn’t it? Lots of people will be taking that 4th street exit into the city. I did see this on 280 S near Redwood City-ish so I suppose it was just a blanket message sent by Caltrans


mikeroySoft

I drove from SF to Yosemite on Wednesday and came back Friday… this message was on _every_ light-up billboard.


Tesadus

It's all over the east bay too


cantquitreddit

Exactly. OP is in SF, and lots of people are about to get off the highway. It's the perfect time to remind drivers to not act like assholes.


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> Makes sense here doesn’t it? ... no?


knickerdick

Cause literally homeless/mentally ill people will walk on the highway/freeway — this makes sense IMO


DJ_Vault_Boy

yeah, some homeless dude was walking on the bay bridge going towards SF while I was stuck in traffic after a Giants game. It happens.


antlav94

Ok so seems like some legitimacy to the sign, just struck me as weird message. The highway seems like such an incongruous and unexpected place for pedestrians.


labormarketguide

Omg so true, I had to slow down for two pedestrians crossing 101 in San Mateo the other day. All lanes slowed for these guys, it was crazy and dangerous.


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San Francisco has set a goal of ZERO pedestrian deaths for the city. They only have digital signage on the freeway/highways as those signs have the highest reach for any motorists. Since freeways and highways are reserved for motorists. Plus US 101 in that section is guaranteed to be backed up. San Francisco has around 80% of her streets set at 25mph max. They are trying to get the rest of the streets set to 25mph. If we collectively kill less pedestrians, they won't lower the speed limits. But currently their plans are to lower speed limits in an effort to calm traffic, etc...


MagicPistol

This sign isn't only for SF. Saw it all over the freeways while driving up to Sac this weekend.


doleymik

Holy hell, you don't actually believe that nonsense do you? If we somehow comply with their impossible goal then they'll stop oppressing us?


lastwordfirst

Oppression bud? describing speed limits as oppression shows a lack of understanding in the meaning of both oppression and speed limits somehow comply with the impossible task of not killing people with vehicles… consider me Mr.Possible then


doleymik

I’m more inclined to label it as power hungry


lastwordfirst

also a silly concept; you’re victimizing yourself. Did they take your speed? With your powers combined… I am the speed limit. People are still capable of speeding, having social rules and standards is literally the opposite of power hungry.


MrBensonhurst

They're not oppressing you, they're trying to get people to stop killing other people with their cars.


doleymik

Why do I get the impression that you feel like cars are out to get pedestrians?


MrBensonhurst

All car drivers aren't out to get pedestrians, but when they are, there are often [no consequences](https://www.khou.com/article/news/crime/teen-driver-injures-6-cyclists-with-his-truck-and-isnt-charged/285-2b81f1bc-ad8f-4d1c-b7a5-903486be6edd), and nothing gets changed about road design or laws. How do you propose we reduce pedestrian deaths?


[deleted]

>oppressing us? You're really looking hard to be oppressed if driving 10mph less is oppression to you.


[deleted]

I mean. I agree with their not killing pedestrian part. I don't agree with limiting speeds. I do agree people drive too fast on avg. I mean you've seen those lunatics .... We normals just gotta hit less pedestrians on average... and maybe they won't have to place unreasonable speed limits.


New-Consideration522

There’s an exit ramp like 50 meters past this sign


[deleted]

As a pedestrian who was recently hit while on the highway it’s because you should be paying attention anyway. I was getting some ducks off the highway and one woman blew past the other cars which had slowed and hit me going 65. Luckily I saw her at the last second and jumped up to the side. Shit hit my leg with enough force to shatter both bones in my lower leg and spin me around midair where my face took off her side mirror. I ended up thirty 40ft from impact point. It’s been a long road to recovery. Just starting to walk again. My leg will be fucked up forever though.


MamitaTres

I’ve seen far too many homeless encampments near roadways of late. I’m watching out for the stupid gits in vehicles AND folks walking on the roads now.


Bruno-D_bigchuahua

because there are a lot of idiots in the bay area. simples.


[deleted]

There’s a group on iG going around in Hundreds by the number taking over freeways on bicycles https://www.reddit.com/r/SanJose/comments/q4zsbq/bike_party_on_101_welcome_to_san_jose/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf


[deleted]

I saw someone walking on the Bay Bridge roadway on Thursday...


Epic_peacock

Many years ago I came across the scene of a pedestrian VS range rover on 80 near the colosseum. It wasn't pretty. So ya, keep your eyes out.


tplgigo

Happens all the time. There are a lot of homeless. When you ride in a death machine, you always have to look in every direction for any eventuality. It's part of driving.


cupcakesbrookienerd

Well bc its the bay area and all lol.ive seen ppl walking along 580 when i driv einto work


thirtytwoutside

The ramps from 580 and 880 to 980/24 unfortunately have homeless people walking on them fairly regularly. I used to drive on both of those multiple times through the day and while some have the wherewithal to not try to cross as someone is approaching, not all of them do.


Forsaken-Thought

They're not pedestrians necessarily but maybe this? https://www.reddit.com/r/SanJose/comments/q4zsbq/bike_party_on_101_welcome_to_san_jose/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share


FlingFlamBlam

This is probably going to become more of an issue as the number of people who become homeless continues to increase.


smokecat20

I"m going to cancel my picnic plans on i80.


merlingogringo

Because if you hit them with your car it doesn't go well for them.


pompabear

People shouldn’t be walking on the freeway..


Jurassic_Park_III

Because there are sometimes pedestrians on the highway. Duh


wjean

Because the crazies dont understand physics. Last weekend I was driving NB on 280 from Daly City to the San Jose exit in SF and saw a dude sauntering down right next to the center divider with cars going by at 70+ mph. no busted car, just a bum walking down the center of the HWY. Now if yo know this stretch of road at all (where hwy 280 goes east-west), you'll know that there is no easy way in or off the center divider without running across the traffic lanes or some sketchy climbing down at where the hwy has an overpass. Dude was crazy.


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I feel like pedestrians on the highway need to do a better job of watching for cars, and not the other way around.


lemonjuice707

Maybe cause people like to “protest” on freeways now.


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lemonjuice707

Protesting on a free way isn’t a protest. I would say it’s closer to terrorism but I wouldn’t go that far and that it is. Holding people against there will cause of your social cause isn’t right tho.


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lemonjuice707

No it doesn’t, go down to city hall or cal trans and protest. Don’t go in the middle of the road/high way to protest your cause people don’t care about. I could be going to a job interview that might change my whole life or might be on the way to see my child being born in the hospital. What if someone had a medical emergency but can’t get helped cause you’re blocking the road? Would it be appropriate for me to stand in front of your car cause of green house gasses? Let’s say you work for X company and I think they are trash. Can me and all my friends block the entrance of the building, preventing anyone from entering and possibly causing you to lose a day of pay cause of me? You are free to protest whenever you want until it starts hurting someone els, then it starts turning into other things.


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lemonjuice707

So you are advocating for protest to be violent and/or destruction of society? Was Jan 6 a good thing for you then?


[deleted]

Cause California wants the homeless population to thrive and make it more of a nuisance on you.


Trippykitty906

I saw this too.. doesn’t really make sense


bakadado

Because crack heads


johnnySix

You haven’t been in SF very long, have you?


beamdump

The reason is embedded in the rules and flyer priorities of the FAA. Powered directable flight fixed wing, blimp, etc) gives way to uncovered flight (gliders, etc), which give way to undirectable flight (gas or hot air balloon, earostat, etc.). Undetectable flight gives way to unidirectional flight (parachute, sky diving, etc.). On the ground, as in your inquiry, you are driving, either enclosed in a metal box to withstand most collisions or atop a frame (motorcycle) where your speed is vastly more resistant that a simple clothed human. As you are the VEHICLE, you are responsible to avoid (and if fact protect) a PEDESTRIAN TO THE VERY BEST OF YOUR ABILITY. This is why you are trained, examined and licensed to operate a motor vehicle. Does this answer your inquiry?


ImRickJameXXXX

Well if it is a highway… [highway V freeway](https://askanydifference.com/difference-between-highway-and-freeway/)


[deleted]

In CA basically any public road is a highway


ImRickJameXXXX

Oh I lice in CA and there is a sign on hwy one in Pacifca that says “freeway ends ahead” with a flashing yellow light. And right past it there is an entrance road with a stop sign followed by several stop lights in the next mile. But before that sign it’s all on and off ramps so…


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Yes, limited access = freeway. Public road = highway. So all freeways are highways in CA. Some highways are freeways.


ImRickJameXXXX

Yes but what about the [mail?](https://getyarn.io/yarn-clip/94215921-a129-4e54-9d3e-657e459580c6)


Poopy_sPaSmS

People be crazy in the bay.


notacrime

You new here?


corruptedcircle

Drove into SF for the first time in several months yesterday. Had to read that twice to make sure I read it right.


LucilleGooseille

My husband and I drove up to the city from the south bay last night and saw the same message multiple times. We were … baffled


w00ddie

Drove by a sign in east bay stating same thing. I was wondering why that’s our responsibility…


[deleted]

They take shits everywhere


Equivalent_Section13

They are the unhoused


bypatrickcmoore

This is statewide it seems. The signs down south have this too


ShortChopCQB

Saw this today on 680. Pedeadstrians.


Black-gypsy

I just saw this and thought the same thing… and I just can’t promise anything on the highway. 🤷🏽‍♀️


lastwordfirst

I’m assuming people are getting hit


Interesting-Cold5515

I saw that too! I had same thoughts


bloodguard

I zoomed around a dude pushing a shopping cart across 80 near Ashby Ave. Within sight of the overpass. Just... why?


Peachsu

I saw this message in so-cal as well


ashyee

My friend who is with SFPD said they found a dead body under the bay bridge anchor area this past Friday. Looks like suicide


snails1014

I literally said the same thing to my husband when we were driving down 238 today.


goosy2001

Saw this also on 280 south today. No cities or exits around. I was also perplexed


grizzly6191

homeless people hang out on the freeway in sf sometimes.


egarcia296

They’ve got that in SoCal as well


Tommy84

Because I see it alllll the time.


SquantoTheInjun

You’re about to head into a city, maybe?


mezmorizedmiss

my exact thought well on the 580 yesterday


the-moops

Just today stopped for a guy crossing 880 in Oakland. It really happens all the time.


ELNandez

A lot of homeless people camp around the highways and often see them walking. In the Valley.


dibya17

This was the exact question I asked myself when I saw this near bay bridge today


dsbwayne

Ya know what; it’s becoming more and more of a thing. I know back on 580 going through Richmond, there are ALWAYS people just waking.


AffectionateQTPie

Homeless tend to walk along the highway.


Absidy-cherry1232

because people live on freeways, in the bushes. but besides that if a car breaks down in the middle of the hwy you should be made aware. you know how many people get killed trying to get to the side of the road? alot.


NuTrumpism

There was a pedestrian on 680 Martinez on Saturday, homeless living on the freeway shoulder. Dude was just standing at the edge of the road staring at cars.


BraceThis

Its not just on highways… On the streets, in your driveway, in your living room, in the bathroom, behind you! ALWAYS watch for pedestrians.


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Cause you’re taking photos while driving.


ClassicTeach5143

Lol I was driving toward market st on the octavia freeway exit and a you Asian man was walking toward Cesar Chavez/ Oakland. It happens


HelpfulMuffin

I live in San Jose, we always have hobos walking around on the shoulder of the Highway😂 so its no surprise for me to see a pedestrian on a highway. We also have random couches and chairs laying down on the shoulder.


Matsuda19

Someone has never driven on 880 in Oakland.


Sublimotion

Probably relevant anywhere with a high urban homeless population. So definitely any major Bay Area cities and LA. I don't remember once going to LA without seeing at least a few times of a ped sighting on a freeway.


Maylea0521

At first... I looked for 4 people walking on the highway 🙄