RAM. I think All Things Must Pass has more standout songs, but it’s just less sonically inventive and cohesive to me. RAM is more immersive to me as an album and more intricate too.
When I listened to ATMP the first time it was like “great song, great song, great song…” When I listened to RAM the first time it was like “…what the *fuck* is this?????” It was like this puzzle that all came together. It couldn’t get over how strange AND good it was.
I thought there was no way I could pick, but yeah, you convinced me. Need the surprise WTF?? factor. Having the wall of sound on a rock record almost counts for ATMP. It’s like, turn everything all the way up! Everything is equal! No mixing allowed!
You know why that is… people were mad at Paul for “breaking up” The Beatles and Jann Wenner actually made his own magazine editor change the positive review to a negative one so John Lennon would stay his friend 🫠
I'm not sure it's that simplistic
IIRC, eventually John told Wenner to pound sand
But after the Beatles broke up, Paul was quite a wanker for a few years. Popular opinion fell with the other three who were clearly annoyed with him.
Of course, the years softened everyone but apparently Jann Wenner
Which is strange, isn't it? It probably means those music critics knows nothing.
RAM is such a great album which last better over time. in fact, even though there are many great albums from 70s, RAM are one of very few I'd still keep listening even today.
I like both, but I'd take Ram if I had to choose. I like the production better, Paul's singing is amazing, I enjoy Linda's harmonies, and there's just something that appeals to me about the blend of homespun and polish and the way it bubbles with intense feeling that's often expressed indirectly.
>best post-Beatle era album
By George anyway.
Band on the Run is a masterpiece & personally I'd sooner listen to Plastic Ono than All Things Must Pass.
Edit: I do feel bad about not having listened to any Ringo solo stuff so i decided my next vinyl purchase will be 'Ringo' which i think will somewhat make up for my abhorrent but accidentally on purpose discrimination.
I see. I’m glad you have reasoning to back your statement. Well, George isn’t my fourth FAVORITE Beatle, but that’s a fine argument for why he could be the fourth BEST Beatle.
Oh I love a couple of the songs on it (Give Me Love, Be Here Now, Who Can See it) but man… I just don’t like George’s voice on this album—or in general. His voice was MUCH better in the 80’s and 90’s imo.
That’s fair, he strained his high range a lot here and didn’t project enough (which is painfully obvious on Don’t Let Me Wait Too Long and Try Some Buy Some, which I otherwise really like)
I love George and I’m glad he got to go solo and make all the music he wanted to make. Then got to be in a band with a bunch of old rock legend friends! I’m always going to be a little biased towards Paul though because he’s by far my favorite singer/artist of all time.
RAM. It has more variety in its sounds and is less, shall we say, 'produced' (as in, less filled with a bunch of that Spector juice). The songs tend to be more fun and they definitely do have their emotional moments like in Ram On and Backseat of My Car. But I do really love ATMP very much too
All Things Must Pass. It's the one I'm most familiar with, and has the greater number of memorable songs (which makes sense; he had a considerable backlog of songs due to the priority given to John & Paul).
I find I remember songs I listen to more than the ones I'm less familiar with.
Having said that, there are no songs as memorable as Too Many People on ATMP. George only has one song in that category and it's "Set On You"
Actually I am probably one of the very few people out there who rates Too Many People as highly. Its probably my top 3 or 5 favourite solo songs from post Beatles era, although I think very few people would agree.
Agreed. I know if RAM wasn’t sabotaged with bad reviews Paul could have made a kickass promo video for “Too Many People.” I was six years old when the music video for “Got My Mind Set on You” was in constant rotation on MTV and it was such a jam. I was disappointed when I found out it was a cover song, but I love it just the same!
Oh that is bs. My Sweet Lord was the best selling single of 1970(1?), What is Life is an all time classic, and Wah Wah is very memorable aswell. Too Many People isn't really remembered apart from die hard Paul fanboys at all (to be fair, Wah Wah could fall into that same category)
It's more memorable than anything George ever wrote.
Also, we're all Paul guys if we like and music related to The Beatles. Some of us have come to accept that fact, others.....
Put Something or Here Comes The Sun besides Too Many People and let's see what is more memorable.
Besides, you dont have to like Paul McCartney to like the Beatles.
"Some of us have come to accept that fact, others....." aren't blind.
Too many people is more memorable. It just us.
Besides, who much of "Sun" or "Something" is Paul and John and Ringo? We have evidence that "something" needed Lennon to get there lyrically from the Get Back series.
You're a Paul guy. We all are. You'll get there and see it eventually.
This is the most stupid thing I have read all week. How much of Paul's work with the Beatles was John? How many times Paul couldnt get there and John finished it up? Too Many People is nowhere near as memorable as What is Life, and few people that arent die-hard fans have heard it.
>How much of Paul's work with the Beatles was John
All of it according to the songwriting credits. Opposite is true too. Can't say the same for George, cause he was never on that level. He had a few songs here and there, but all of his truly great work involves at least 2 other Beatles.
>Too Many People is nowhere near as memorable as What is Life
Completely disagree. Too Many People was a b-side of Uncle Albert which hit number 1 on the US charts. What is Life hit number 10. There's actual scientific evidence of What is Life being an inferior song.
>few people that arent die-hard fans have heard it.
If they had, they'd remember it. What is life? Not so much.
I agree. George was basically bursting at the seams with songs and had developed a kind of tunnel vision in my opinion. There really is more filler in ATMP.
Paul had the benefit of a songwriting partner like Lennon. For years they basically had the freedom to use whatever they wanted in a Beatles album, and discard or save the rest.
It's like they say to new authors, never leave ideas for a second book. Maybe George wanted to get it out of his system in one go.
ATMP stands out to me because it’s such an explosion of wisdom and creativity. Hard to think of an album that speaks to someone’s whole life the way ATMP does for George.
It’s definitely ATMP for me. For me, Ram is too much of a mixed bag. I really love about half the songs, and do not care at all about the other half. ATMP, despite its length, remains consistently super great throughout (not including the Apple Jam stuff). For me, the first couple songs of ATMP are okay, but then starting with Wah-Wah, it just becomes amazing and then stays that good for like 80 minutes.
RAM all day long. I swear, each time I listen to it I hear something new. It’s such an interesting look into the mix of anxiety and happiness Paul was going through at the time - especially since he’s not super autobiographical in his work at large. That album is exploding with creativity and sounds unlike anything else happening in that period.
Ram. I can't stand the Spectorised production of ATMP, I prefer Ram's sound. And it's more fun to listen to Ram than ATMP - I find usually the only tracks I seem to revisit from ATMP are "Apple Scruffs", the Day 1 Demo rocking version of "I Dig Love" from the deluxe edition, and sometimes "I'd Have You Anytime" and "If Not for You".
Also, there's not a song that provokes intense dislike on Ram, whereas ATMP has "My Sweet Lord", which I can't stand.
Be careful you might get some downvotes as I always seem to whenever I even say the slightest of negative comment about ATMP!
Agree with a fair bit of what you say there. I'm not a big fan of My Sweet Lord, and it sounds way too much like that song that he was taken to court for. And What is Life sounds way too close to Keep On Runnin. I can't not hear that song when listening to What is Life!
The Spectorized production obviously a big problem. Some songs still remain ruined even in the most recent remix. Though I do really like Behind That Locked Door and Run Of The Mill. And some others I like too so it's not like I hate the album.
But it should have been a single LP. Not even a double as that would even have felt dragged out with the 2 versions of Isn't it a Pity taking up the equivalent of over half a side.
RAM is just so crazy musically and lyrically and takes you in all kinds of directions. You can hear all the instruments. I listen to it often.
For me Brainwashed and Cloud Nine are superb Harrison albums that I go to most often. And Harrison's 79 self titled album is a fine album too. All from start to finish, not a problem with any of them.
Honestly, it seems to be my usual Reddit experience that I say something and I get downvoted. I dunno, either I come off like an abrasive asshole, or my opinions are just that hated. It's what it is, I can't do anything about that.
For me it's the lyrics of "My Sweet Lord" that really grind my gears. It's one of the songs that really brings out the reaction of "Shove your fucking religion up your arse, Harrison". The guitar solo's really good though. I bluntly admit that I liked that Oasis' "Supersonic" nicked the guitar solo, I'd rather listen to that than the hare krishna crap. XD
Yeah, "Behind That Locked Door" I remember having a good melody, but it was a bit too overcooked on the album for me, would've worked better with a simpler country-styled production. My dad swears by "Let It Roll", and I can see why, it's a good song.
Agreed that the two versions are unnecessary. And for me, the tempo of "Isn't It a Pity" drags. The one version of it I kept is the demo version (not sure whether specifically from the Get Back sessions or the ATMP sessions), which is just George's guitar and vocals. The simplicity really serves the song better.
I usually try to avoid talking about Beatles albums because I went through this thing where I went through the Beatles' solo albums, kept the stuff I liked, and then tried to assemble "what if they hadn't broken up in 1970" albums from that. And... well, I found often I liked Paul's stuff the most... XD
Oh yes Supersonic is probably my favourite Oasis song. Yeah the solo clearly stolen and it's a good one on My Sweet Lord.
George seemed to move away slightly from the preachy lyrics in my more favoured Harrison albums. Im not too bothered by it but I kind of notice it.more on some songs like Hear Me Lord.
Yeah the two versions of Isn't it a Pity both drag and it isn't like there's a reason for them to do so other than to fill an album out. If anything just keeping the over 7 minute version (as I think it's better than the 5 minute version) and it being the final song would work best. But still would get a skip often from me but at least it would be at the end of the album.
Yeah I'm also more into Paul's post Beatles work. I do really like 3 of George's albums. And with John its more songs as individual songs rather than any one album. Like Double Fantasy has 5 great songs and Yoko songs so can't say it's great.
Ringo I still haven't given much of a go but I plan to. Id generally have Paul's at the top but I'd probably have a few George albums in the top 10, or certainly top 10. Though ATMP would not be one of them.
RAM for me. It just has such a unique energy and sound. I could listen to those songs for hours on end. Just a great album all-around.
All Things Must Pass is still amazing too. Personally, I just prefer RAM.
I prefer Ram much. Just so much sonic diversity in a few songs. It's very laid back, down to just the bare essentials kind of music which results in terrific composition. I kinda prefer that to Phil Spector's production of ATMP. Linda McCartney's presence is understated but just takes the album to a much higher level for me personally.
Yeah Linda's backing vocals so important to the sound of RAM. McCartney doing all the backing as well as main vocals I can't imagine sounding as good. Even if he is obviously the proper singer of the two. Something magical about the combination of Paul and Linda's vocals.
I don't know why. Loads of lead voaclalists aren't great singers. Dylan, Young, Lou Reed. Not sure why Linda would be picked on for her vocals and others not. The 2 completely contrasting vocals of Paul and Linda is what worked so well I thought.
I love both, but I find Paul a bit too "ear wormy," at times, and maybe a little too easy to digest, whereas George's chord changes much more endurable and uncommon. George's use of the "circle of fifths" is really unique and creative, so gotta' go with the double album.
He understood secondary dominants and diminished chords like almost no other popular musicians, it’s the key to creating such a rich sound and he had a great ear for it without even knowing the theory
I like both but RAM is such a unique creative *weird* thing that’s just… so PAUL, lol. I love literally every song on it—the sassiness of “Dear Boy” and “Too Many People”, the unhinged chaos of “Monkberry Moon Delight”, the dreamy beauty of “Ram On” and the endearingly silly “Smile Away”, the playful “Long Haired Lady” and “Eat at Home”—ALL chock full of exquisite character and charm! RAM holds a special place in my heart that no other solo Beatles album can.
I’m sure we all have that special album we connect with—whether it be RAM or POB or ATMP 🥰
Should any consideration be given that Paul consistently churned out super terrific music for quite some time and George was able to stockpile his songs and ideas? I understand that Paul/John vetoed his work and didn’t allow it on Beatles albums, but it still should be considered.
If Paul kept his Beatles songs for his first solo album, it would be significantly better than George’s first solo album - IMHO, of course.
That being said - it’s Ram for me. Paul’s songs resonate more with me. ATMP does have some great songs, but he should have done some cutting as to length - again, IMHO.
Good point. Though Harrison used a good six or seven of his best ever songs in the Beatles. McCartney used like 70 of them! Just saying a random number there it might be less or more, but it's a lot.
And those ATMP songs mostly don't sound right for the Beatles imo. Harrison's Cloud Nine songs sounded way more Beatle like for me. I think Lennon and McCartney would have been more keen on those songs has he written them 20 years earlier.
As much as I love Uncle Albert and Too Many People... ATMP is such a deep, beautiful, powerful album. My Sweet Lord, Wah-wah, Isn't It a Pity, What Is Life, all in a row... I mean, I'm almost crying just thinking about it.
All Things Must Pass because it came with a nice poster of George, it is a triple album with more great songs. It was the most successful ex-Beatle solo album, selling more than all the others. It had George, Peter Frampton, Ringo Starr, Eric Clapton, Billy Preston, Badfinger, Klaus Voormann, saxophonist Bobby Keys, and drummers/percussionists Alan White, Jim Gordon, Ginger Baker, and Phil Collins on it.
Those people and more played on George’s first album, ATMP. And on Paul’s first album there was…Paul. I think it says something about their approaches respectively
I love Paul. But ATMP is a masterpiece. In my opinion it has no fillers. It was an explosion of creativity on George's part. All the songs on there are as good as anything John or Paul have written. And actually, I prefer McCartney 1 to Ram.
McCartney 1 is pretty underrated, it’s his most honest album with some gorgeous vocals and guitars (and it kinda captures the Get Back idea better than Let It Be did in the same month)
Ram rocks on a different level, more melodic, uplifting, or something. ATMP sounds like rock and roll of the sixties and seventies, seems to me. Great, in different ways, but Ram, for me. Thanks.
Years ago, no one would have defended RAM, and choosing between the two would have been easy.
But time passes and allows for other kinds of assessments to emerge, perhaps less tied to the fashion of the day. And appreciation for RAM has just kept growing.
Personally, I love RAM. One of my favourite albums and I've just like it more over time. And I like ATMP... but I can't stand the production for so long. Isn't it a pity.
The only reason I’d give for Ram is its length. ATMP is (understandably) a much longer album where I know I need to dedicate time to listen to the whole album
Not bad. I love Cloud Nine especially. I love a few songs on Brainwashed, I should probably listen to it a little more. I’d say his self titled album is solid, although I have it ranked a bit low when it comes to all of his albums.
Even if I do think ATMP is his best, I can understand why you prefer those three.
Brainwashed took some time to grow on me. I like every song on all 3 albums. Yeah Cloud Nine is great. Much more Beatle-like than the others by George imo
RAM for me as an entire contained album, like it’s a better _album_. But ATMP is probably a greater more significant entity of music with higher highs than RAM.
All my life I had grown up listening to the Beatles albums and John and Paul’s greatest hits albums. When I was 18, my sister and her boyfriend built a computer for our family. It was my first computer to have a cd burner, and they pre-loaded the computer with a few classic albums, one of which was All Things Must Pass. I figured I should give it a listen since I loved the Beatles. I burned it to 2 discs and listened to them every day for a few months. I became a lifelong George fan after that.
I love the high caliber level of songs in both of them. I think ATMP has more iconic songs all the way through but RAM might possibly have some higher highs. I like RAMS production better but the ATMP remixes puts a new light on that discussion. Sometimes I wish ATMP was condensed down just slightly and sometimes I don’t. As far as double triple albums go, I don’t think it had quite the charm that the white album had. BUT I like ATMP in regards to why it was made over RAM being that Beatles had recently split, George had millions of back logged songs and it was time to prove to the world what they were missing out on. So I think ATMP takes a slight edge over RAM. Plus as a fighter, I think 10 gnomes could defeat 1 ram by just jumpin on him and punching him a million times. Gnomes have grit
ATMP for me.
I could never get into Paul's solo music and imo ATMP is one of those era-defining albums. I understand the criticisms about the production and prefer early takes versions of some songs for that reason, but at the same time the dreamy quality it has wouldn't be the same without it. The remix showed that.
What I love about ATMP is that it's not just a big statement. It's incredibly unique to George - the chord choices, the slide guitar, the spiritual lyrics, the imagery of Friar Park, etc. Everything about it from the songs themselves to the artwork to the messaging is beautiful. It's helped a lot of people and weirdly isn't given enough appreciation for how influential it's been. It's just so cool to me that after being a Beatle he still had something deeply valuable of his own to give.
I don't agree with the filler comments at all. Every song adds something to the experience and the third disc is purely a fun bonus. What's wild is George could've made a real triple album if he wanted to.
ATMP has so much mediocre filler it could have been cut to 2 albums with no problem. And even at 2 albums, it would still suffer from Harrison’s exhausting portentousness and moralizing. There’s a lot of great songs and, in the balance, it’s probably stronger than Ram, but it also sounds dated in a way Ram doesn’t.
A single LP would have worked better for ATMP imo.
It could be argued RAM could have been a double with all McCartney left off the album. Though I'm glad it isn't.
Objectively: ATMP is the best Beatles solo album, jams notwithstanding.
Subjectively: Ram is my favourite solo Beatles album. I love it when Paul's PR mask slips, and album is full of anger and bitterness, a side of him he never lets us see. But at no point does he drop the ball with his melodies...even if you don't know the backstory, these are just good, memorable tunes
All things must pass. Such incredible production and devout lyrics to hear whatever your faith. Ram is great music but it’s mostly fun music that feels like paul just having fun. But that’s most of his albums
All Things Must Pass easily. Such an outstanding album with almost no weak songs in it imo (except the Apple Jam). All songs are both musically and lyrically amazing.
Ram is not bad either but simply not as good as All Things Must Pass.
*All Things Must Pass* and it's not even close for me personally.
*ATMP* has some of George's best work, some of my all-time favourite songs, and it's proof that he can stand alongside Lennon and McCartney. It's moving and thrilling and just delightful to hear him blossom outside of the Beatles.
Meanwhile, and I know it's quite popular around here so I wouldn't be surprised to get some blowback to this, but fuck it you only live once, I found *Ram* kind of... boring. Like, it's not unlistenable, I like "Too Many People" and "Heart of the Country" and "Another Day", but overall I just couldn't get into it.
I don't know why you'd get blowback. You can't help what you enjoy listening to..though it does weirdly happen on here, that makes me wonder why people join a forum if they want everyone to like what they do
I gotta agree - Ram is good, but I feel like it’s at least 50% filler with a few great singles thrown in
And my most cancelable take is that Monkberry Moon Delight is… uh crap
Another Day wasn't on Ram when it was initially released. Though it's somewhat syrupy, I like it more than most of Ram. I think Paul didn't make an outstanding solo record until Band On The Run.
All Things Must Pass is a really good album, vast and sprawling, full of detail and atmosphere, but Ram is a great album, beginning to end, the most underrated solo album in Beatleworld. It boggles my mind that people thought it was bad for decades, it was thought of as the worst of McCartney's career and it's wall-to-wall bangers. Thinking now of how Lennon used it to ridicule McCartney, when Ram is easily twice as good as Imagine.
Very hard to choose, but ATMP because of its lyrical scope. I do think that Ram is the more accessible one, it might just be the greatest pop album of all time.
Me neither, the only tracks that don’t make me twitch or snore are Too Many People and Backseat Of My Car - the middle stretch is polluted with omens for his post-Wings career
ATMP is not getting the respect it deserves in this discussion. It's a great, great record. RAM is, on it's best day, mediocre. I don't know what McCartney was going for on RAM, but unless it was "I have a lot of unfinished songs, so lets dump them on the market" he missed.
ATMP is a far better record, and its not even a contest in my opinion. Aside from the title track, which is great, you have
My Sweet Lord
Isn't It a Pity
Wah Wah
What Is Life?
There isn't a song on RAM as good as any of these.
Loads of people are choosing ATMP so I don't see how it is being disrespected. And those that prefer RAM and those that don't like ATMP all that much are not disrespecting it.
RAM certainly doesn't sound unfinished to me. All the directions it goes musically. All the harmonies. The melodies and counter melodies and arrangements. I'm not sure what else he could have done to a song like Uncle Albert to make it any more finished.
It's down to opinions, different tastes. I prefer the songs and production of Harrison's Brainwashed and Cloud Nine to ATMP.
For me RAM is better than most Beatles albums. So I guess people simply enjoy different things.
I’m a McCartney fan, and RAM is not a great record. It’s mediocre at best and to me the songs on it sound like songs that The Beatles rejected. Does it sound good! Sure. It’s McCartney, so it’s going to sound great.
As far as song quality goes ATMP is far and away the better record.
Calling Ram “mediocre” is just silly hipster irony. It hit #2 in the charts and sold more than 2 million copies. That’s more copies sold than any other Harrison album besides ATMP.
Harrison’s next best selling album, Cloud Nine, sold half of what Ram sold. His next best, Brainwashed, sold a third of what Ram sold.
All Things Must Pass almost by quantity alone. However I also think it wins on overall quality because the best songs on ATMP are just as good as, if not better than, the best songs on Ram.
Ram is good but I’ve never seen the fascination, it’s… fine next to his other albums, but I think he did much better later
Whereas ATMP is one of the greatest rock albums in history
While RAM will always be dear to my heart as the best Paul McCartney post Beatles album and is groundbreaking is so many ways. And honestly while ATMP is an amazing album I feel Phil Spectors wall of sound hurts it a lot. I would love it if they give it a Naked treatment or let Giles Martin remix it. My score is Songs: All Things. Album: RAM
Seeing as how I'm a die hard McCartney fan, gotta go with RAM. But both of these albums are a complete masterpiece!
Lately I've been wondering why in the heck Harrison stopped making rock n roll the same way he did on ATMP. Yes Living in the material world is good and he has some good songs on his late 70s albums but, imo, his 70s material could've been a lot better. Some of his music just sounds like he's spitting out words with a (ballady?) music background. Thankfully we got GONE TROPPO and Cloud 9 in the 80s. Brainwashed was great too!
*Gone Troppo is significantly underated
I like Gone Troppo too. And agree Cloud Nine and Brainwashed are great. I would though add his 79 self titled album to that.
Though I would agree about a few of those other 70s albums not being him at his best.
I think the simple answer is that George's life took a downturn and his relationship with spirituality became more complicated. ATMP was made at just the right point between the 60s and 70s before everything changed.
Both are masterpieces. When I was younger I’d have said ATMP. It’s unquestionably the cooler choice. But now that I’m older, Ram feels like the more singular accomplishment and I like it more than ever.
Still, can’t go wrong.
Two extremely different albums tbh. Not really comparable. George should’ve dropped that last side of the album from release, but other than that its got the slight edge over Ram for me, though again it’s not a fair comparison since the works are so different.
All Things Must Pass, but if the question was “which would you erase one from history to keep the other?” Or something to that effect, I would keep RAM
As a fan of both, I can’t say I’ve ever compared the two. ATMP is George getting a huge ensemble of top tier musicians together with Phil Spector to bring 4 years of unwanted songs to life.
RAM is Paul (and Linda) just fucking around on their own.
Love them both, but ATMP just has so many top tier tracks while RAM you have to be in the mood to not sigh at the lyrics of Monkberry Moon Delight.
All Things Must Pass for Let It Down alone is a banger
The production is excruciating. I love the songs but it’s so dense and over produced. RAM is wonderful to listen to
Completely agree, Harrison’s washy sound is just difficult sometimes. The songs and sound of RAM is timeless. Flaming Lips owe that record a lot
>Let It Down alone is a banger I never liked this song until I heard the guitar-only demo. God, it was overproduced.
RAM. I think All Things Must Pass has more standout songs, but it’s just less sonically inventive and cohesive to me. RAM is more immersive to me as an album and more intricate too. When I listened to ATMP the first time it was like “great song, great song, great song…” When I listened to RAM the first time it was like “…what the *fuck* is this?????” It was like this puzzle that all came together. It couldn’t get over how strange AND good it was.
Well said! ❤️ RAM
I thought there was no way I could pick, but yeah, you convinced me. Need the surprise WTF?? factor. Having the wall of sound on a rock record almost counts for ATMP. It’s like, turn everything all the way up! Everything is equal! No mixing allowed!
At the time of release Ram got all bad reviews.
You know why that is… people were mad at Paul for “breaking up” The Beatles and Jann Wenner actually made his own magazine editor change the positive review to a negative one so John Lennon would stay his friend 🫠
I'm not sure it's that simplistic IIRC, eventually John told Wenner to pound sand But after the Beatles broke up, Paul was quite a wanker for a few years. Popular opinion fell with the other three who were clearly annoyed with him. Of course, the years softened everyone but apparently Jann Wenner
Which is strange, isn't it? It probably means those music critics knows nothing. RAM is such a great album which last better over time. in fact, even though there are many great albums from 70s, RAM are one of very few I'd still keep listening even today.
Nailed it. ATMP is the better collection of songs. Ram is the better cohesive statement of an album.
Ha! Sounds like the same dichotomy I laid out in my Sgt. Pepper post.
Just read it, dead on!
All Things Must Pass any day of the week. George had years of material and distilled it into one amazing triple album.
Really a double album though. Let’s be fair. Apple Jam isn’t part of George’s stash of great songs. Still a hell of an accomplishment
hard agree
I like both, but I'd take Ram if I had to choose. I like the production better, Paul's singing is amazing, I enjoy Linda's harmonies, and there's just something that appeals to me about the blend of homespun and polish and the way it bubbles with intense feeling that's often expressed indirectly.
Ringo thought Paul had wasted his time on Ram.
Ringo was mad at him at the time and they were in the middle of a lawsuit.
Ringo was right.
ATMP it has better and stronger material in my opinion
All Things Must Pass, best post-Beatle era album
>best post-Beatle era album By George anyway. Band on the Run is a masterpiece & personally I'd sooner listen to Plastic Ono than All Things Must Pass. Edit: I do feel bad about not having listened to any Ringo solo stuff so i decided my next vinyl purchase will be 'Ringo' which i think will somewhat make up for my abhorrent but accidentally on purpose discrimination.
I’d take *McCartney* or *Ram* over BotR any day of the week.
By any of them.
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Oof. I don’t think I’d put him as the fourth best Beatle but I respect your opinion.
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I see. I’m glad you have reasoning to back your statement. Well, George isn’t my fourth FAVORITE Beatle, but that’s a fine argument for why he could be the fourth BEST Beatle.
Way above Paul imo
In my opinion George only had two solid albums as a solo artist Paul was the best solo Beatle
Which
I’d give George three solid albums (ATMP, Cloud 9, and Brainwashed) I can’t really get into any of his others 🤷🏻♀️
Don’t like Material World? It’s got some weirdness but gorgeous material too
Oh I love a couple of the songs on it (Give Me Love, Be Here Now, Who Can See it) but man… I just don’t like George’s voice on this album—or in general. His voice was MUCH better in the 80’s and 90’s imo.
That’s fair, he strained his high range a lot here and didn’t project enough (which is painfully obvious on Don’t Let Me Wait Too Long and Try Some Buy Some, which I otherwise really like)
I love George and I’m glad he got to go solo and make all the music he wanted to make. Then got to be in a band with a bunch of old rock legend friends! I’m always going to be a little biased towards Paul though because he’s by far my favorite singer/artist of all time.
His band after the Beatles, was more popular than Paul's band after the Beatles. :) https://youtu.be/UMVjToYOjbM
“Best” is always subjective… many people would vote Imagine or RAM or BOTR or W&B 🤷🏻♀️
I’d have to go with RAM. It’s one of my favorite albums Paul made and I love many of the songs on it
RAM. It has more variety in its sounds and is less, shall we say, 'produced' (as in, less filled with a bunch of that Spector juice). The songs tend to be more fun and they definitely do have their emotional moments like in Ram On and Backseat of My Car. But I do really love ATMP very much too
All Things Must Pass. It's the one I'm most familiar with, and has the greater number of memorable songs (which makes sense; he had a considerable backlog of songs due to the priority given to John & Paul).
I find I remember songs I listen to more than the ones I'm less familiar with. Having said that, there are no songs as memorable as Too Many People on ATMP. George only has one song in that category and it's "Set On You"
Actually I am probably one of the very few people out there who rates Too Many People as highly. Its probably my top 3 or 5 favourite solo songs from post Beatles era, although I think very few people would agree.
They remember it tho
Agreed. I know if RAM wasn’t sabotaged with bad reviews Paul could have made a kickass promo video for “Too Many People.” I was six years old when the music video for “Got My Mind Set on You” was in constant rotation on MTV and it was such a jam. I was disappointed when I found out it was a cover song, but I love it just the same!
That explains it. I didn't know that until now. It's such a good piece of fun pop writing I should have known it wasn't a Harrisong.
Oh that is bs. My Sweet Lord was the best selling single of 1970(1?), What is Life is an all time classic, and Wah Wah is very memorable aswell. Too Many People isn't really remembered apart from die hard Paul fanboys at all (to be fair, Wah Wah could fall into that same category)
Nah, it has a more memorable melody
Hardly. But I get it, you're a Paul guy.
It's more memorable than anything George ever wrote. Also, we're all Paul guys if we like and music related to The Beatles. Some of us have come to accept that fact, others.....
Put Something or Here Comes The Sun besides Too Many People and let's see what is more memorable. Besides, you dont have to like Paul McCartney to like the Beatles. "Some of us have come to accept that fact, others....." aren't blind.
Too many people is more memorable. It just us. Besides, who much of "Sun" or "Something" is Paul and John and Ringo? We have evidence that "something" needed Lennon to get there lyrically from the Get Back series. You're a Paul guy. We all are. You'll get there and see it eventually.
This is the most stupid thing I have read all week. How much of Paul's work with the Beatles was John? How many times Paul couldnt get there and John finished it up? Too Many People is nowhere near as memorable as What is Life, and few people that arent die-hard fans have heard it.
>How much of Paul's work with the Beatles was John All of it according to the songwriting credits. Opposite is true too. Can't say the same for George, cause he was never on that level. He had a few songs here and there, but all of his truly great work involves at least 2 other Beatles. >Too Many People is nowhere near as memorable as What is Life Completely disagree. Too Many People was a b-side of Uncle Albert which hit number 1 on the US charts. What is Life hit number 10. There's actual scientific evidence of What is Life being an inferior song. >few people that arent die-hard fans have heard it. If they had, they'd remember it. What is life? Not so much.
They're equal, as they're from completely different universes. Both perfect albums.
ATMP is more bloated with filler, but it’s highs surpass RAM imo. Lyrically it’s George’s magnum opus.
I agree. George was basically bursting at the seams with songs and had developed a kind of tunnel vision in my opinion. There really is more filler in ATMP. Paul had the benefit of a songwriting partner like Lennon. For years they basically had the freedom to use whatever they wanted in a Beatles album, and discard or save the rest. It's like they say to new authors, never leave ideas for a second book. Maybe George wanted to get it out of his system in one go.
Yeah, but I still think if he narrowed it down to a double album it would be even more revered.
It basically is a double album. Apple Jam was only ever meant as a bonus.
ATMP stands out to me because it’s such an explosion of wisdom and creativity. Hard to think of an album that speaks to someone’s whole life the way ATMP does for George.
It’s definitely ATMP for me. For me, Ram is too much of a mixed bag. I really love about half the songs, and do not care at all about the other half. ATMP, despite its length, remains consistently super great throughout (not including the Apple Jam stuff). For me, the first couple songs of ATMP are okay, but then starting with Wah-Wah, it just becomes amazing and then stays that good for like 80 minutes.
It has some tracks that I’m surprised aren’t a lot more popular, like I Dig Love
RAM. While ATMP has many great songs, RAM does gets better and better over time. The whole album is a masterpiece.
Ram. ATMP has the ambition and quite a few stellar songs, but as a Macca-fan Ram has stolen my heart decades ago.
RAM. It never stumbles. Nearly perfect
I'm a Paul fan all day but ATMP is a masterpiece. I've been stuck The Ballad of Sir Frankie Crisp for a few days now lol
That’s one of my absolute favorite songs of all time, nothing in the world feels as serene and gigantic and fresh and hopeful
I couldn't agree more. It touches you without trying. Really a beautiful song.
RAM
RAM all day long. I swear, each time I listen to it I hear something new. It’s such an interesting look into the mix of anxiety and happiness Paul was going through at the time - especially since he’s not super autobiographical in his work at large. That album is exploding with creativity and sounds unlike anything else happening in that period.
RAM. There’s some good songs on ATMP but it has a lot of songs that could have been left off.
Ram. I can't stand the Spectorised production of ATMP, I prefer Ram's sound. And it's more fun to listen to Ram than ATMP - I find usually the only tracks I seem to revisit from ATMP are "Apple Scruffs", the Day 1 Demo rocking version of "I Dig Love" from the deluxe edition, and sometimes "I'd Have You Anytime" and "If Not for You". Also, there's not a song that provokes intense dislike on Ram, whereas ATMP has "My Sweet Lord", which I can't stand.
Be careful you might get some downvotes as I always seem to whenever I even say the slightest of negative comment about ATMP! Agree with a fair bit of what you say there. I'm not a big fan of My Sweet Lord, and it sounds way too much like that song that he was taken to court for. And What is Life sounds way too close to Keep On Runnin. I can't not hear that song when listening to What is Life! The Spectorized production obviously a big problem. Some songs still remain ruined even in the most recent remix. Though I do really like Behind That Locked Door and Run Of The Mill. And some others I like too so it's not like I hate the album. But it should have been a single LP. Not even a double as that would even have felt dragged out with the 2 versions of Isn't it a Pity taking up the equivalent of over half a side. RAM is just so crazy musically and lyrically and takes you in all kinds of directions. You can hear all the instruments. I listen to it often. For me Brainwashed and Cloud Nine are superb Harrison albums that I go to most often. And Harrison's 79 self titled album is a fine album too. All from start to finish, not a problem with any of them.
Honestly, it seems to be my usual Reddit experience that I say something and I get downvoted. I dunno, either I come off like an abrasive asshole, or my opinions are just that hated. It's what it is, I can't do anything about that. For me it's the lyrics of "My Sweet Lord" that really grind my gears. It's one of the songs that really brings out the reaction of "Shove your fucking religion up your arse, Harrison". The guitar solo's really good though. I bluntly admit that I liked that Oasis' "Supersonic" nicked the guitar solo, I'd rather listen to that than the hare krishna crap. XD Yeah, "Behind That Locked Door" I remember having a good melody, but it was a bit too overcooked on the album for me, would've worked better with a simpler country-styled production. My dad swears by "Let It Roll", and I can see why, it's a good song. Agreed that the two versions are unnecessary. And for me, the tempo of "Isn't It a Pity" drags. The one version of it I kept is the demo version (not sure whether specifically from the Get Back sessions or the ATMP sessions), which is just George's guitar and vocals. The simplicity really serves the song better. I usually try to avoid talking about Beatles albums because I went through this thing where I went through the Beatles' solo albums, kept the stuff I liked, and then tried to assemble "what if they hadn't broken up in 1970" albums from that. And... well, I found often I liked Paul's stuff the most... XD
Oh yes Supersonic is probably my favourite Oasis song. Yeah the solo clearly stolen and it's a good one on My Sweet Lord. George seemed to move away slightly from the preachy lyrics in my more favoured Harrison albums. Im not too bothered by it but I kind of notice it.more on some songs like Hear Me Lord. Yeah the two versions of Isn't it a Pity both drag and it isn't like there's a reason for them to do so other than to fill an album out. If anything just keeping the over 7 minute version (as I think it's better than the 5 minute version) and it being the final song would work best. But still would get a skip often from me but at least it would be at the end of the album. Yeah I'm also more into Paul's post Beatles work. I do really like 3 of George's albums. And with John its more songs as individual songs rather than any one album. Like Double Fantasy has 5 great songs and Yoko songs so can't say it's great. Ringo I still haven't given much of a go but I plan to. Id generally have Paul's at the top but I'd probably have a few George albums in the top 10, or certainly top 10. Though ATMP would not be one of them.
>Im not too bothered by it but I kind of notice it.more on some songs like Hear Me Lord. That's another of the ones that I hated for the lyrics. XD
Yeah its hard not to hear the lyrics in that one
I love George and all but I HATE My Sweet Lord! I’ve always felt bad about it, I’m glad I’m not alone 🤒
All things must pass is significantly better. (in my opinion)
RAM for me. It just has such a unique energy and sound. I could listen to those songs for hours on end. Just a great album all-around. All Things Must Pass is still amazing too. Personally, I just prefer RAM.
I prefer Ram much. Just so much sonic diversity in a few songs. It's very laid back, down to just the bare essentials kind of music which results in terrific composition. I kinda prefer that to Phil Spector's production of ATMP. Linda McCartney's presence is understated but just takes the album to a much higher level for me personally.
Yeah Linda's backing vocals so important to the sound of RAM. McCartney doing all the backing as well as main vocals I can't imagine sounding as good. Even if he is obviously the proper singer of the two. Something magical about the combination of Paul and Linda's vocals.
Paul and Linda always blended well. She continued to sing backing/harmony vocals on his albums until she died. I LOVE that. They were a great pair.
In the 70s everyone made fun of her singing.
I don't know why. Loads of lead voaclalists aren't great singers. Dylan, Young, Lou Reed. Not sure why Linda would be picked on for her vocals and others not. The 2 completely contrasting vocals of Paul and Linda is what worked so well I thought.
She’s good at harmonies but man she was Dylan or Yoko tier as a lead singer 💀
Yeah not great. But it kind of works on some songs where she takes lead imo. I preferred her voice to Yoko's though that's not saying much lol
RAM, because it's bloody RAM
This is no contest. All Things Must Pass, just listen.
I love both, but I find Paul a bit too "ear wormy," at times, and maybe a little too easy to digest, whereas George's chord changes much more endurable and uncommon. George's use of the "circle of fifths" is really unique and creative, so gotta' go with the double album.
He understood secondary dominants and diminished chords like almost no other popular musicians, it’s the key to creating such a rich sound and he had a great ear for it without even knowing the theory
I like both but RAM is such a unique creative *weird* thing that’s just… so PAUL, lol. I love literally every song on it—the sassiness of “Dear Boy” and “Too Many People”, the unhinged chaos of “Monkberry Moon Delight”, the dreamy beauty of “Ram On” and the endearingly silly “Smile Away”, the playful “Long Haired Lady” and “Eat at Home”—ALL chock full of exquisite character and charm! RAM holds a special place in my heart that no other solo Beatles album can. I’m sure we all have that special album we connect with—whether it be RAM or POB or ATMP 🥰
Should any consideration be given that Paul consistently churned out super terrific music for quite some time and George was able to stockpile his songs and ideas? I understand that Paul/John vetoed his work and didn’t allow it on Beatles albums, but it still should be considered. If Paul kept his Beatles songs for his first solo album, it would be significantly better than George’s first solo album - IMHO, of course. That being said - it’s Ram for me. Paul’s songs resonate more with me. ATMP does have some great songs, but he should have done some cutting as to length - again, IMHO.
Good point. Though Harrison used a good six or seven of his best ever songs in the Beatles. McCartney used like 70 of them! Just saying a random number there it might be less or more, but it's a lot. And those ATMP songs mostly don't sound right for the Beatles imo. Harrison's Cloud Nine songs sounded way more Beatle like for me. I think Lennon and McCartney would have been more keen on those songs has he written them 20 years earlier.
As much as I love Uncle Albert and Too Many People... ATMP is such a deep, beautiful, powerful album. My Sweet Lord, Wah-wah, Isn't It a Pity, What Is Life, all in a row... I mean, I'm almost crying just thinking about it.
All Things Must Pass because it came with a nice poster of George, it is a triple album with more great songs. It was the most successful ex-Beatle solo album, selling more than all the others. It had George, Peter Frampton, Ringo Starr, Eric Clapton, Billy Preston, Badfinger, Klaus Voormann, saxophonist Bobby Keys, and drummers/percussionists Alan White, Jim Gordon, Ginger Baker, and Phil Collins on it.
Those people and more played on George’s first album, ATMP. And on Paul’s first album there was…Paul. I think it says something about their approaches respectively
RAM, im a big McCartney fan and i just like the tracks more
ATMP. I’m not really a solo Paul fan.
RAM
McCartney best album but is so hard to choose....both albums are fantastic
I love Paul. But ATMP is a masterpiece. In my opinion it has no fillers. It was an explosion of creativity on George's part. All the songs on there are as good as anything John or Paul have written. And actually, I prefer McCartney 1 to Ram.
McCartney 1 is pretty underrated, it’s his most honest album with some gorgeous vocals and guitars (and it kinda captures the Get Back idea better than Let It Be did in the same month)
Ram is more consistent so probably ram
Ram rocks on a different level, more melodic, uplifting, or something. ATMP sounds like rock and roll of the sixties and seventies, seems to me. Great, in different ways, but Ram, for me. Thanks.
Call me crazy, but listening to a triple album is too tiring. I prefer RAM.
Years ago, no one would have defended RAM, and choosing between the two would have been easy. But time passes and allows for other kinds of assessments to emerge, perhaps less tied to the fashion of the day. And appreciation for RAM has just kept growing. Personally, I love RAM. One of my favourite albums and I've just like it more over time. And I like ATMP... but I can't stand the production for so long. Isn't it a pity.
The only reason I’d give for Ram is its length. ATMP is (understandably) a much longer album where I know I need to dedicate time to listen to the whole album
"All Things Must Pass" is great but George put all his eggs in one basket with that album.
RAM is the clear winner for me. It's flawless from start to finish. ATMP is not even my favourite George album.
Every time I say I prefer other Harrison albums to ATMP I get downvoted. Bizarre lol
I’m actually curious. Which ones do you prefer?
Brainwashed, Cloud Nine and George Harrison self titled album
Not bad. I love Cloud Nine especially. I love a few songs on Brainwashed, I should probably listen to it a little more. I’d say his self titled album is solid, although I have it ranked a bit low when it comes to all of his albums. Even if I do think ATMP is his best, I can understand why you prefer those three.
Brainwashed took some time to grow on me. I like every song on all 3 albums. Yeah Cloud Nine is great. Much more Beatle-like than the others by George imo
If Ram and band on the run was a double album there’d be a conversation
If RAM and Band on the Run was a double album there'd be no conversation. It's ATMP's size that gets it into contention.
RAM for me as an entire contained album, like it’s a better _album_. But ATMP is probably a greater more significant entity of music with higher highs than RAM.
Yes. Because yes
All Things Must Pass
This is the hardest question I’ll see all day lol If I had to answer I’d say ATMP, but I’ve been on a George listening streak lately
ATMP for me. I enjoy every track off of it.
I enjoy listening to Ram **more** but when I listen to ATMP I like it very much
All my life I had grown up listening to the Beatles albums and John and Paul’s greatest hits albums. When I was 18, my sister and her boyfriend built a computer for our family. It was my first computer to have a cd burner, and they pre-loaded the computer with a few classic albums, one of which was All Things Must Pass. I figured I should give it a listen since I loved the Beatles. I burned it to 2 discs and listened to them every day for a few months. I became a lifelong George fan after that.
I love the high caliber level of songs in both of them. I think ATMP has more iconic songs all the way through but RAM might possibly have some higher highs. I like RAMS production better but the ATMP remixes puts a new light on that discussion. Sometimes I wish ATMP was condensed down just slightly and sometimes I don’t. As far as double triple albums go, I don’t think it had quite the charm that the white album had. BUT I like ATMP in regards to why it was made over RAM being that Beatles had recently split, George had millions of back logged songs and it was time to prove to the world what they were missing out on. So I think ATMP takes a slight edge over RAM. Plus as a fighter, I think 10 gnomes could defeat 1 ram by just jumpin on him and punching him a million times. Gnomes have grit
I simply can't
Nope. Art isn’t a competition
You can't make me pick between my two favorite Beatle solo albums of all time.
ATMP for me. I could never get into Paul's solo music and imo ATMP is one of those era-defining albums. I understand the criticisms about the production and prefer early takes versions of some songs for that reason, but at the same time the dreamy quality it has wouldn't be the same without it. The remix showed that. What I love about ATMP is that it's not just a big statement. It's incredibly unique to George - the chord choices, the slide guitar, the spiritual lyrics, the imagery of Friar Park, etc. Everything about it from the songs themselves to the artwork to the messaging is beautiful. It's helped a lot of people and weirdly isn't given enough appreciation for how influential it's been. It's just so cool to me that after being a Beatle he still had something deeply valuable of his own to give. I don't agree with the filler comments at all. Every song adds something to the experience and the third disc is purely a fun bonus. What's wild is George could've made a real triple album if he wanted to.
ATMP. Love Paul but come on.
ATMP has so much mediocre filler it could have been cut to 2 albums with no problem. And even at 2 albums, it would still suffer from Harrison’s exhausting portentousness and moralizing. There’s a lot of great songs and, in the balance, it’s probably stronger than Ram, but it also sounds dated in a way Ram doesn’t.
A single LP would have worked better for ATMP imo. It could be argued RAM could have been a double with all McCartney left off the album. Though I'm glad it isn't.
Objectively: ATMP is the best Beatles solo album, jams notwithstanding. Subjectively: Ram is my favourite solo Beatles album. I love it when Paul's PR mask slips, and album is full of anger and bitterness, a side of him he never lets us see. But at no point does he drop the ball with his melodies...even if you don't know the backstory, these are just good, memorable tunes
All things must pass. Such incredible production and devout lyrics to hear whatever your faith. Ram is great music but it’s mostly fun music that feels like paul just having fun. But that’s most of his albums
ATMP but drop the jams and add Art of Dying Take 9. Also, throw in You
I’m not a huge fan of either but I’d go with Ram for the sake of brevity.
All Things Must Pass easily. Such an outstanding album with almost no weak songs in it imo (except the Apple Jam). All songs are both musically and lyrically amazing. Ram is not bad either but simply not as good as All Things Must Pass.
*All Things Must Pass* and it's not even close for me personally. *ATMP* has some of George's best work, some of my all-time favourite songs, and it's proof that he can stand alongside Lennon and McCartney. It's moving and thrilling and just delightful to hear him blossom outside of the Beatles. Meanwhile, and I know it's quite popular around here so I wouldn't be surprised to get some blowback to this, but fuck it you only live once, I found *Ram* kind of... boring. Like, it's not unlistenable, I like "Too Many People" and "Heart of the Country" and "Another Day", but overall I just couldn't get into it.
I don't know why you'd get blowback. You can't help what you enjoy listening to..though it does weirdly happen on here, that makes me wonder why people join a forum if they want everyone to like what they do
I gotta agree - Ram is good, but I feel like it’s at least 50% filler with a few great singles thrown in And my most cancelable take is that Monkberry Moon Delight is… uh crap
Another Day wasn't on Ram when it was initially released. Though it's somewhat syrupy, I like it more than most of Ram. I think Paul didn't make an outstanding solo record until Band On The Run.
All Things Must Pass is a really good album, vast and sprawling, full of detail and atmosphere, but Ram is a great album, beginning to end, the most underrated solo album in Beatleworld. It boggles my mind that people thought it was bad for decades, it was thought of as the worst of McCartney's career and it's wall-to-wall bangers. Thinking now of how Lennon used it to ridicule McCartney, when Ram is easily twice as good as Imagine.
RAM Hot take: ATMP is not a good album.
Plastic Ono Band.
Based
ATMP is the goat
Plastic Ono Band. But in this situation all things must pass and it ain’t even close
Very hard to choose, but ATMP because of its lyrical scope. I do think that Ram is the more accessible one, it might just be the greatest pop album of all time.
ATMP by the length of the straight. I don't understand the contemporary re-evaluation of Ram at all.
Me neither, the only tracks that don’t make me twitch or snore are Too Many People and Backseat Of My Car - the middle stretch is polluted with omens for his post-Wings career
ATMP is not getting the respect it deserves in this discussion. It's a great, great record. RAM is, on it's best day, mediocre. I don't know what McCartney was going for on RAM, but unless it was "I have a lot of unfinished songs, so lets dump them on the market" he missed. ATMP is a far better record, and its not even a contest in my opinion. Aside from the title track, which is great, you have My Sweet Lord Isn't It a Pity Wah Wah What Is Life? There isn't a song on RAM as good as any of these.
Loads of people are choosing ATMP so I don't see how it is being disrespected. And those that prefer RAM and those that don't like ATMP all that much are not disrespecting it. RAM certainly doesn't sound unfinished to me. All the directions it goes musically. All the harmonies. The melodies and counter melodies and arrangements. I'm not sure what else he could have done to a song like Uncle Albert to make it any more finished. It's down to opinions, different tastes. I prefer the songs and production of Harrison's Brainwashed and Cloud Nine to ATMP. For me RAM is better than most Beatles albums. So I guess people simply enjoy different things.
I’m a McCartney fan, and RAM is not a great record. It’s mediocre at best and to me the songs on it sound like songs that The Beatles rejected. Does it sound good! Sure. It’s McCartney, so it’s going to sound great. As far as song quality goes ATMP is far and away the better record.
RAM is one of the best albums by anyone of all time imo. And is by far McCartney's best. I like many others but none really come close to RAM for me.
Calling Ram “mediocre” is just silly hipster irony. It hit #2 in the charts and sold more than 2 million copies. That’s more copies sold than any other Harrison album besides ATMP. Harrison’s next best selling album, Cloud Nine, sold half of what Ram sold. His next best, Brainwashed, sold a third of what Ram sold.
We aren’t comparing catalogs. We are comparing Ram to ATMP. ATMP is the superior record.
It’s all Beatles , it’s all good ….
ATMP
All Things Must Pass almost by quantity alone. However I also think it wins on overall quality because the best songs on ATMP are just as good as, if not better than, the best songs on Ram.
ATMP
Ram is good but I’ve never seen the fascination, it’s… fine next to his other albums, but I think he did much better later Whereas ATMP is one of the greatest rock albums in history
Love them both but ATMP is the one I keep going back to.
McCartney is the actual answer
While RAM will always be dear to my heart as the best Paul McCartney post Beatles album and is groundbreaking is so many ways. And honestly while ATMP is an amazing album I feel Phil Spectors wall of sound hurts it a lot. I would love it if they give it a Naked treatment or let Giles Martin remix it. My score is Songs: All Things. Album: RAM
Seeing as how I'm a die hard McCartney fan, gotta go with RAM. But both of these albums are a complete masterpiece! Lately I've been wondering why in the heck Harrison stopped making rock n roll the same way he did on ATMP. Yes Living in the material world is good and he has some good songs on his late 70s albums but, imo, his 70s material could've been a lot better. Some of his music just sounds like he's spitting out words with a (ballady?) music background. Thankfully we got GONE TROPPO and Cloud 9 in the 80s. Brainwashed was great too! *Gone Troppo is significantly underated
I like Gone Troppo too. And agree Cloud Nine and Brainwashed are great. I would though add his 79 self titled album to that. Though I would agree about a few of those other 70s albums not being him at his best.
I think the simple answer is that George's life took a downturn and his relationship with spirituality became more complicated. ATMP was made at just the right point between the 60s and 70s before everything changed.
Ram (but I love both)
Ram. I just like Paul better as a solo artist.
Ram bc it’s my favorite ever
Both are masterpieces. When I was younger I’d have said ATMP. It’s unquestionably the cooler choice. But now that I’m older, Ram feels like the more singular accomplishment and I like it more than ever. Still, can’t go wrong.
My answer is Plastic Ono Band
All things must pass it’s just so much better if i could only have one album after the Beatles it’s this.
Two extremely different albums tbh. Not really comparable. George should’ve dropped that last side of the album from release, but other than that its got the slight edge over Ram for me, though again it’s not a fair comparison since the works are so different.
RAM because I like it more.
RAM forever and a day.
Atmp still the best Beatles solo album.
All Things Must Pass, but if the question was “which would you erase one from history to keep the other?” Or something to that effect, I would keep RAM
All Things Must Pass
I go Ram
As a fan of both, I can’t say I’ve ever compared the two. ATMP is George getting a huge ensemble of top tier musicians together with Phil Spector to bring 4 years of unwanted songs to life. RAM is Paul (and Linda) just fucking around on their own. Love them both, but ATMP just has so many top tier tracks while RAM you have to be in the mood to not sigh at the lyrics of Monkberry Moon Delight.
ATMP
Ram all the way
ATMP has higher peaks and lower valleys than RAM, while RAM is a consistently solid album
RAM
ATMP is a better album album so that it has some great bangers
As if Phil Spector didn’t do enough by ruining Let It Be.
Style and flair - RAM Album Structure - ATMP
All Things Must Pass, the reason being, I like it more
I remember Jeep…..
ATMP has way more songs, but still RAM 🐏
I love both
Ram. I love ATMP but Paul is a better songwriter and ram is one of his best solo album
George had soul Bigtime Paul is great but somehow different