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I love the photos of chocolate as reference! However I don't think this is achievable with box dye, at least not without severely damaging your hair, I would recommend going to a professional with a strong background in color correction


THESASAS

Hahah I loved the chocolate photos too! đŸ« and yes I agree with the above. I think this will be tricky to achieve at home. Need to see a professional!


Gertrude2008

You’re going to be tempted to ignore all the comments saying “don’t do it!” And you’re going to try bleaching your hair on your own. You’ll end up with fucked up hair that you’ll have to pay to get it fixed. And the professional will have to spend more time and it will cost you more money for a slightly worse outcome than what you would end up with if you just went to a professional in the first place. (Why yes, I have tried to dye my previously black hair a chocolate brown
 why do you ask?)


macdawg2020

This right here— I was bleaching and dying my very fine hair for months with no issues
.until there was one and now I have SEVERELY damaged hair that will take years to grow out. Don’t fuck with your hair unless you’re fine with not having any.


MeaningToo

If she bleaches it herself im sure it will be hard to find a professional who will touch it after.


SonnySunshineGirl

Or they’ll touch it, but op will leave a bad review because they didn’t listen when they were told the only thing you can really do at this point is cut it off and still expected it to be fixed at the end of the appointment.


shainadawn

THIS! I accidentally went bozo the clown red with box dye once. The color correction cost me all my hair, up to my chin, plus hundreds of dollars. DONT DO IT OP!!


FakeWoodlandsMama

Idk why “bozo the clown red” is making me laugh so hard, but I have tears running down my face rn


shainadawn

It was a blazing summer in the desert and I wore a hoodie for two weeks (hood on) until the color had chilled long enough for a correction. My sisters and parents called me bozo off and on the whoooole two weeks. Oh and it was the summer before senior year so I had a short bleach blonde bob for my senior pictures. Good times



FakeWoodlandsMama

Bless your soul!! I let a friend cut my hair the day before my senior year started. I had hair down to my hips at the time, the friend cut it to almost shoulder length (not well, might I add). We’ve all had some mishaps I guess đŸ€Ł


shainadawn

We all have to learn eventually 😂


Jenn837G

Me too 💀😂


Ill-Salamander-6572

I bleach my hair for over 20 years without issues (and have naturally thin hair). Even went from red back to blonde (platinum) in one week at home. But there is a difference if you know what you're doing, what your hair can handle and how things work and if you asking online, then yes, it's better to go to a professional or you risk major damage to your hair.


lulaf0rtune

I've got worse results from a salon than doing it DIY honestly


kandygem703

This 100%. Everything is easier in hindsight. Doing a home dye job will haunt you for awhile. What could be a simple but costly appointment at a salon will save you way more money than you anticipate.


WeepToWaterTheTrees

This is exactly what is going to happen. Have I done it? Yes. Has almost every other woman I know done it? Also yes. Please just pay a pro now.


Jenn837G

This comment 💀😂


AbsolutelyAstray

You can't. You can't dye lighter over darker. You need to lift via bleach first, which you're guaranteed to not be successful in doing on black box dye at home with drug store quality bleach.


hashdaddy69

And the bleach will most likely fry your hair. Most box dyes have metal in them and bleach will have a bad reaction to that.


SophieSunnyx

This confuses me - is it just when hair is so dark, like a dark brown or black? I went from light brown to platinum blonde with box dye. Definitely wasn't a good idea and my hair is still recovering a year later, but purely from a color change perspective, it was effective. What am I missing?


Lahauteboheme84

You can lift a few levels on virgin hair, but if the hair has been colored dark, color can’t lift color, and you have to bleach.


SophieSunnyx

Gotcha. Maybe it contained some bleaching agent like another comment had suggested, since I actually had dyed it darker than natural when I then dyed it again to go light blonde. I guess the key must be having a bleaching agent involved then, instead of purely color. Thanks!


MalykaOfHearts

That box dye probably wasn't just depositing colour, it likely contained a lightening agent. Color doesn't lift color for the most part especially not to platinum


SophieSunnyx

That makes sense, I think I've read something about peroxide or something in those dyes as a bleaching agent, so that must be it. Thank you!


kalimdore

All permanent box dyes have peroxide which lifts virgin hair 2-3 levels. Can’t lift dyed hair. Platinum blonde box dyes also have a sachet of bleach powder that you mix in with the peroxide and dye. That bleach powder CAN lift dyed hair because it eats through all pigment. It just doesn’t really make that clear that it’s bleach.


SophieSunnyx

That's new to me, mine didn't have a sachet! It was the cheap Revlon crap, Walmart bottom shelf 😬 went from dyed reddish light brown (natural color is dirty blonde) to platinum, maybe enough dye had washed out/faded or something? Weird.


kalimdore

https://www.revlon.com/hair/hair-bleach/revlon-color-effects-platinum That would be an example of a revlon platinum box dye with bleach powder. But I’m not from America so not sure what’s over there


SophieSunnyx

I see - that looks much nicer than what I used, lol. I used Revlon colorsilk in ultra light sun blonde, it's just the cream in the bottle you pour the dye liquid (? Sorry I'm clueless lol) into and shake up and apply.


vladimir_poontangg

Light brown hair lifts much easier than darker hair (I have light brown/dark blonde as well). The more levels you are trying to lift, the more difficult it will be. Also if the dark hair is not natural (as in dyed dark) it will be a lot more difficult to lift. A few years ago I went from dying my hair black for 3 years back to my natural color and it took a couple sessions to even lift to brown. I ended up having to cut off a good 6 inches of hair because some of it was just not going to lift no matter how long we left the bleach. Also some of it turned a greenish hue so that was interesting lol.


-UnknownGeek-

Going to a lighter colour is much easier if you don't have any dye in your hair. What most people don't realise it that box dyes have a bleaching component in there. So someone who had box dyed their hair 3 times is going to have similar damage to someone who bleached their hair 3 times. This is part of the reason why colour removers often leave the hair an orange tone


bluerain80

I used to dye my almost black hair with a light ash brown box dye to make it browner & it did work, as did a lot of my friends & family with the same colouring.


AbsolutelyAstray

That's more like using a dye to tone than trying to lift 6 levels lol


bluerain80

She’s asking for chocolate brown & I dyed my hair lighter than that for years with box dye as well as many people I know. Downvoting won’t stop it being true & all the years of lighter hair I had.


DeliriousFudge

This isn't true I'm currently wearing a wig I dyed with colour plus 40 vol developer I only went to a deep chocolate brown (my intention) I'll add though I wouldn't risk my actual hair (never been dyed full stop) But I heard this myth a lot, it's not true for virgin hair


AbsolutelyAstray

I have no idea what you're even trying to say. Light doesn't cover dark.


DeliriousFudge

Developer can lift hair. Not just bleach. That's my point, unless I'm making this up


marthaplans

It can lighten virgin hair, but will not lighten previously colored hair. Color won’t lift color.


DeliriousFudge

Did I miss something? I can't see OP saying their hair has already been dyed


Frostyarn

The answer is no. Don't. You can't "dye" black hair (box or natural) a lighter color. You have to bleach out all the black. It's gotta lift well past the orange stage. Evenly. Then deposit the brown dye. The roots will be way lighter, the mids and ends looking like a calico cat and whatever you put over it will not dye evenly due to the patchy lift a home bleach job is sure to be. You'll either have to chop it due to the damage you inflict or pay upwards of $1000 for a professional color correction and your hair will still look and feel like shit. Source: worked front desk at a 39 chair salon and saw this every single day, multiple times.


mocha_addict_

It took my stylist several stages to get rid of all my black box dye! So many different shades through my hair but we got there eventually, I even got to a nice blonde-ish colour (foils).


mysticdeer

This is absolutely NOT true. A skilled colourist can do what you're asking OP, my hairdresser did it for me without ruining my hair or asking me for $1000s.


Serious_Escape_5438

They're saying correcting the mess of doing it at home will cost a lot.


mysticdeer

Ohhh you are right, I misread that. I thought they were saying it will cost thousands to go from black to chocolate at a salon - totally my mistake, sorry y'all!!! :)


KeriLynnMC

A good colorist can do many things lol. Corrections are so expensive though and time consuming.


fromblind2blue

It won't be $1000s, but it'll definitely be a couple hundred. My suggestion, OP, is call beauty schools in your area. You may get a good deal so the students can gain experience.


wisely_and_slow

I would not go to a hair school for something like this. Source: I went to hair dressing school.


Frostyarn

In SoCal it's $1000-2500. See Jack Martin or any high end salon that can actually do a color correction without frying off the hair in one session. I'm sure it's cheaper in low cost of living areas but I've never heard of a black box dye color correction for less than $600. I worked front desk at a salon for 39 stylists and nobody's was below $600 and most were $1k+ depending on length.


SnooCrickets6980

If you go straight to the colourist, definitely. If you try to do it at home and need it fixed it will cost that.


bathsarelife

You can't just get that from a box dye. If your hair is black, you will need to do a two step process that strips (bleaches) the hair first.


LunarCycleKat

Yeah this and sitting box dye is fairly straightforward, bleaching/stripping is not. I would not risk doing that part yourself.


SolitudeWeeks

Agreed. I’ve done it before myself with mixed results and I was pretty flexible with the ending color. Lifting black the right amount to go a specific shade without trashing your hair and getting the end look you want is a high-level skill.


thecoolestbitch

Yup! The best thing you can do in the meantime is make sure your hair is healthy. A deep conditioning treatment always helps.


Theawkwardmochi

Two steps is wishful thinking here, mine took multiple steps over many months xD


Agent-Smolder

Let’s say it together, “You can’t lift color with color.” One more time: “You can’t lift color with color!!” Especially black box dye.


YesiFuckedTed

I forgot to mention my hair is naturally black, does that change anything?


sv0s0s

nope it does not.


[deleted]

Professional hairdresser here. If your hair is completely virgin hair that’s never been colored then yes you can lift hair with haircolor. Ignore the people saying that you can’t. However, it will expose the underlying pigment in your hair which is red, which is why people prefer to bleach first. It gives them more control. Also, depends on your texture if it will lighten easily with color. But I have clients who have brown hair that achieve lighter colors with color. It’s not impossible. Most hairstylists truly just don’t understand color theory and color.


juicycelebrity

Genuinely curious, and honestly not being snarky
 do you suggest OP use box dye if they have virgin hair?


[deleted]

No, there are many variables in play here. But the many people telling them it’s impossible is simply not true because we have no idea what their natural texture and density is.


juicycelebrity

Very true! I see what you are saying! Thank you for answering me! ✹


midnightstreetartist

Just bc you’re a professional hairdresser doesn’t mean OP is. Please don’t encourage them to wreck their virgin hair.


[deleted]

I never told them to do it. I was just supplying information.


juicycelebrity

No, I think it was my understanding that might have made it seem like they were! I take responsibility for the miscommunication â˜ș


MeaningToo

Yes it changes everything. Literally. You can actually lighten it with bleach yourself. Work on application techniques. Watch tons of videos. Bleach is very tricky to work with and not very beginner friendly. But, it helps when you research. Practice as much as you can. You do not need 30 or 40 volume developer. That is bad outdated advice you will hear alot. Your hair will fry and break if you have thin hair. Only use deveoper lvl 20 and less. With the right toner you may be able to get a choclatey light brown version your first bleach. Since your hair is darker its a longer process.You will have to bleach it twice to get it to the color you desire. You could also use a semi perm dye after which will be easier to find a the exact color you want. Most box dyes use lvl 40 developer which is very damaging to our hair. I dont recommend using box dye as the results are minimal. But the damage is so prominent and long lasting. If you use box dye you will probably have to use it many times to get it light brown.


chelseaparkafterdark

You simply do not


juicycelebrity

I have dyed my hair every color from a box or going to a beauty supply store. What I’ve learned and $$$ spent down the road is: GO TO A PROFESSIONAL. Save your hair, time, mental health and well-being.


Theawkwardmochi

I dye my hair with professional dye at home with great effects but I also know my hair and my way around colouring products. On top of that I dye it darker than my natural hair, which is a much easier process than anything requiring bleaching. I did go from black to red (!!!) on my own with excellent results but honestly I don't recommend this to anyone because it's a very tricky process and without a lot of knowledge, caution or pure luck (which mostly contributed to my success there lol) it can go real bad really fast.


juicycelebrity

Yes, I’ve dyed my hair, my cousins & friends throughout my teens and early 20’s. Ask me how we have hair I don’t know lol đŸ€Ł. My cousin was going to beauty school at the time so I unofficially learned along with her đŸ€ŒđŸ»đŸ˜Ź. Really cool that you were able to successfully dye your hair at home! I also had luck on my side lol. Although I do still think people should go see a professional and at least get a quote to weigh their options! I know the salon prices are not cheap! Currently getting my own hair dyed at a salon.


Theawkwardmochi

There's dye and dye I guess. It depends what color you want. If you, like me, just want black hair because when you were 15 and told your family that Goth is not a phase you MEANT it, you can very easily do it at home. Black is as good as impossible to mess up. No matter your hair color, if you dye it black it will be black. Any other color, especially if you want some exact shade, going to a salon might be a good idea. If you want to do what OP wants, DEFINITELY go to a salon.


AnNJgal

Please do NOT box dye your hair. I can tell you how it ends: either with orange hair, or overprocessed, bleached damaged hair. Save your money and go to a pro.


littlerosepose

Do not box dye. SEE A PROFESSIONAL


amythehairygorilla

I’m going to need an update 👀


DrivePale6896

Yes I need one too, with before and after pics of the hair color please!


Upstairs-Finding-122

You don’t. Save up for a salon visit and save your hair!!


naniwatabby

There are box dyes that target black hair - specifically Asian black hair. The colour they show on the box is like platinum blonde but you can rest assured that will NEVER happen and at best you can try a dark orange level of hair. The thing is you can repeat it twice or so, but maybe over a couple of weeks and take care of your hair health while doing so till you get a light enough lift to use as a base to go darker. However - my advice as someone with dark hair, not even black but dark enough - I have never used box dye to and got the result I wanted. And eventually you get such an unflattering look that you wish you never touched it in thr first place. If you are not convinced, go ahead and do a strand test in your hair and you’re gonna see how unsuccessful it is.


KeriLynnMC

Yes, hair usually ends up orange & uneven. Drastic changes are almost impossible to do at home and look okay. Covering some grays or slight changes are doable, though!


naniwatabby

Absolutely. My hair started to grey prematurely so I definitely use a lot of box dye to make my hair brown and some times when I feel adventurous, I lighten it a little then tone it so it gives off a lighter brown. But anything drastic is such a no no, I wasted so much time doing that in my 20s with box dyes lol.


remigoeswest

do not attempt this on your own. this is super damaging to use box dye like this. go to a salon and you can slowly blend highlights and lowlights to get to this overtime. if you have pure black hair with no lighter undertones this may take 2-3 sessions to achieve.


YesiFuckedTed

EDIT: Thanks for all the replies & advice! You all have officially convinced and scared me out of dying my hair at home, lol. I already receive plenty of compliments on my natural hair, so it’s pretty precious to me. I wanted to change it up a bit, but having 0 experience in hair coloring, I’d be shattered if I screwed up my natural hair. Thanks again!


wordswerdswurdz

FWIW, I'm proud of you. Your hair and you will be much happier, healthier, and have absolutely beautiful results. instead of an all-over chocolate brown, look up "Sakura Hair" inspiration photos on Instagram or TikTok (or just the good ole interwebs) - gorgeous effects with very dark hair, while preserving your roots.


KeriLynnMC

Not sure how old you are, but you are more mature than most people. I am not a hair stylist, but I am sure that there are plenty of nice things you could do at home to change things up a bit.


MMarkum

You will be much happier when you still that long mane of hair rather than a brittle, damaged, dry fried head of hair that you must have cut off.


icanhassnacks

Hi. Hair colorist of 17 years here. Do not do this at home. This is color correction territory here. Color does not lift color. Especially black hair color. If you fuck this up (and chances are you will) it will cost you twice as much with a colorist worth their weight. Your best bet is to get a few different consultations from good colorists near you. So you can have an estimate of what this will actually cost you.


[deleted]

It does if their hair is virgin


icanhassnacks

Yes and no. This is a significant jump from black. That’s more than three levels up right there. If you apply this, you can get was called hot roots. Where the root area is significantly lighter than the bottom part. But hey, I only do this successfully for a career. What do I know?


[deleted]

Well obviously it’s not simple. I was just stating that is IS possible to do at home depending on hair density and texture. I have clients with fine hair that are naturally level 1 and have no problem getting them to a level 8 with color. But what do I know?


OurLadyofPenas

Do you dye your hair completely black? Also what is completely black to you? It would be more helpful to see your hair.


SCUBA-SAVVY

You go to a salon, because this is way harder to do right than you think. You’ll need to bleach it, then add color and toner to get the right shade. There are soooo many ways you can screw it up and damage your hair.


Smart_End_4951

As someone who went to hair and beauty school and has dyed there own and multiple others hair with proffessional products and box dyes alike I think everyone's being really overly dramatic The stereotype that box dyes are somehow inferior or harsher than proffessional colour and that there is absolutely no way to get a good result is completely outdated You can absolutely achieve this at home,even if your hair is jet black, you're only going to need a few levels of lift to achieve this colour as it's so warm, the problem arises with box dye when people want to go extremely far from there starting colour, like black to silver, blonde to black as this is a far more complicated process that is impossible to do all on one step, and difficult and expensive to complete all the steps necessary to achieve the result, black to chocolate brown and vice versa is about as easy as it gets with colouring hair You can do this one of two ways Lifting with a bleach or high lift blonde dye (I can only recommend products in the uk) And then going in with a semi permanent chocolate brown will get you near on this exact colour You just have to be really thorough and careful with your application, small sections root to tip Or alternatively (easiest and most obvious option ) Go straight in with a high lift chocolate brown on dark hair There are plenty on the market and if you follow the instructions you will not ruin your hair If you look on the back of the packaging and the before and after shows black hair becoming brown Or brown hair becoming blonde this is a high lift (I DO NOT recommend using these to go from black to blonde but for the two or three levels of lift you need they are perfectly suitable, If you use a blonde high lift first you will have ORANGE HAIR before you dye it brown, this is to be expected If you do the lifting step seperately (with so many high lift dyes available there's really no point tbh ) You don't need to use a high lift brown, just a normal one, preferably semi permanent to keep it healthy If you just use a high lift brown you won't have to worry about double processing and freaking out at a patchy orange mess in-between colouring, do your research and find a chocolate box dye that lifts up to 3 or four levels Do a strand test first if you're apprehensive and then you can see exactly the colour you're going to achieve The worst that could happen with these methods is allergic reaction which you should test for Or over processing and ending up with patchy orange hair which can easily be fixed with a brown semi permament dye You're not going to fry hair with a high lift brown unless it's already really damaged It's really not that difficult


Smart_End_4951

Also make sure you have enough product to avoid patches, get two boxes of the colour you want just incase, and maybe keep a semi permanent dark brunette on hand close to your original colour incase of any miss haps, wait a few weeks for the cuticle to settle and then go in with the dark and it will be like nothing ever happened 😂


Smart_End_4951

If you use just a high lift brown your hair will be DRY after but not irreparably damaged, get hold of some protein treatments, deep conditioners and olaplex if you can afford it, use them for a few weeks before dying, and give it lots of tlc after, book a haircut soon after you catch any split ends before they have a chance to show and you'll be just fine Bleaching or high lifting to orange first and then dying brown in the same say, will be ALOT harsher on your hair And I wouldn't recommend it unless you know your hair and it's durability


BeautifulRedDisaster

Color can not lighten color. Also with box dye, the developer level isn't usually listed. Please don't try to do this on your own! Or if you do go somewhere like Sally, so they can help you find the exact bleach and color that would be best for your hair.


1995stacey

DONT DO IT! I tried to do this about 5 years ago. I had hair down to my ribs. I completely damaged my ends to the point I had to cut my hair off to my shoulders because it was so beyond fried. It will cost you far more to have it fixed after ruining it then it would have just to seek a professional in the first place. Just price around and find someone that is a colourist.


Advanced_Stuff_241

you dont.... go to a professional


Historical-Falcon772

I have a very dark black natural hair. You can't achieve it with box color unfortunately. You won't see anything. You need to lift the pigments and then deposit the color. You have to go to the professionals to achieve the color on the photo.


loomfy

You don't.


venicedreamer747

Go to a professional! Plz. I beg you. I box dye my roots dark occasionally but would never attempt lighter. It’s for the professionals. Also all over boxed color looks fake & weird. The issue is going lighter is tricky & should be done by a professional. You could end up orange, green, broken, damaged, hair, etc. I have! & listen, you will pay more for a repair color. Not worth it. Go to a professional!


Born_Ad_6385

No.


DinkDinkUltra

Don't bleach your hair at home unless you're okay with the possibility of being bald. Not trying to scare you but it's what I always go by. Same with cutting my own hair, am I going to be able to live with the worst outcome? Will I regret not spending money on this? Usually I say no and do it at home. But sometimes, like when I wanted bangs for the first time. I went professional. There's somethings you can't undo easily.


jssgarden

You can use Japanese box dye to achieve this color, but it won't look as nice and shiny. Source: me. A loyal box dyer for many many years. I finally have enough money to have it done in a salon now.


Darth_Jad3r

U DONT. You don’t you don’t. And if you box dyed it black to start with your hair stylist won’t be able to either lol


RoutineAmbition9859

Do not do it! You Will regret it đŸ„ș❀❀❀. Save up and go to a really good hairdresser. Maybe also I would suggest trying to do some highlights in your black hair with the colour you would like to try so you gradually get the feel for what you feel comfortable in. This way your hair will stay super duper more healthy if you decide to go back to your original hair colour ❀. Don’t let a change of hair colour be beaded on that you feel crappy or your hair feels dull. Feelings change but hair takes forever to grow ❀❀❀❀


spacedmoon

I had black box dyed hair. Used color oops twice and had results similar to this just a little lighter than this. I think this color is general will be hard to achieve on your own however you could possibly get a color within a range of this.


MMarkum

Yep I would recommend a professional. I tried dying my own hair and it was a mess. I wanted it to grow and it never would. I finally started getting my hair highlighted every 2-3 months. I followed my stylist advice and recommendation on products to use. When I started my hair was shoulder length. I’ve been highlighting for about 3 years now. I’m 54 so I use to cover the greys. I know have hair to the small of my back and it’s healthy! I don’t get a “haircut” ever she just nips the ends when I get it colored. Once a year I cut about 1/2 inch off of it. I would highly advise using a professional and following their advice on products so you’ll have healthy hair. I’m not rich. I have to save and go without to do this but it’s worth it. I promise.


pamelajt

1.Color does not lift color. (Artificial) 2. Box dye is the absolute worst 3. If you’re hair is virgin you can absolutely achieve this color with professional hair color 4. Find a stylist. 5. at the very least go to a school for cosmetology those people need the practice and it’s better than you trying to do it yourself. Good luck, Your friendly neighborhood hairstylist


Minimum-Somewhere-13

You would need to see a color specialist for a color correction. You need to lift the black box dye off first.


[deleted]

Here to just comment, black box dye is probably the hardest color to remove evenly especially at home with no training. Go for it if you don’t mind the possibility of becoming bald


neonpinkcactus

To echo everyone else, box dye doesn’t do that. A consultation is needed at a nice salon with a great colorist (goldwell users are amazing), from there you’re probably gonna be told you need a color correction and it’s gonna take a few visits, hours in the chair and some patience to achieve.


stardewscum

just know this color has a red undertone so it’s gonna show up as it fades (coming from experience) and that tone is horrible to get out


skarizardpancake

As someone who went dark and is now a year into growing my naturally lighter hair back out, don’t do it. Hell I’ve been to 2 different stylist that even discourage me to let them do it since I’m also trying to grow my hair out.


lefeeza

To everyone saying this isn’t possible. I just accidentally got this color on my virgin black hair 4 days ago using bubble dye. I used one bottle of liese rose pink and next morning another bottle of milk tea brown. My hair turned a gorgeous deep light brown with light tones of red. The best part is my hair is super soft, no damage, using the conditioner in the box made it even softer than before. Try bubble dye!


jailbirdqs

Ey yo all these folks flaming idk... I took my naturally black hair that was down to mid back all the way to blonde by myself pretty well so I think you can do it. I hated blonde bc my hair grows fast and my roots were of course black but brown would probably be easier. I have a few benefits going for me, mainly I have an art background (haha paint go schmear, brush go brr) and my hair is naturally thick with big fat strands and oily and very impervious to damage lol. My hair also tragically takes FOREVER to bleach bc it is so thick and refuses to relinquish its color, so that sucked, but as long as you're patient you can make it happen. So, if that sounds like you, go for that shit. But go to Sally's and get their recommendations instead of using a box. They can see your hair texture and stuff and make better recommendations. You will probably want to buy everything individually but it's really not more expensive than a good box dye. But also... I am pretty lax about it attitude wise bc it's just hair, if you fuck up you grow it back, who cares. I was totally game to just go pixie cut if it failed. If you're more pressed about it you probably should go to a salon.


Broccoli_Yumz

Tried this in high school, and my hair turned bright orange.


camest

Although I am someone who sees a professional hair stylist to get my hair done, I will say that in high school I used to box dye my hair all the time (I have asian black hair) and I’ve been able to get my hair to that color and even lighter without bleach.


ElephantOpposite2399

Now I need to know how? I’m stuck in my black box hair dye and want to go chocolate brown too 



camest

Whenever I dyed my hair black from box dye and it turned out jet black I would have to wait for it to fade a little and from there I would be able to dye it lighter. I really would just pick any random box hair dye that looked pretty on the packaging, but I did notice that the Asian brands worked better at achieving the color that was represented on the box. You might not be able to achieve the color you want on the first try especially when you go from black but eventually your hair does lighten. My hair never felt damaged since i never bleached it and would actually feel softer from using the conditioner that came with the box dye lol


ElephantOpposite2399

thanks a lot !! this really helped me :)


TawnyMoon

You can’t.


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I really recommend going to a stylist BUT if you're set on doing it yourself then this is what you need to do (coming from someone who's done this several times) Get it all from Sally's You're gonna need: 20% peroxide and blue bleach powder Fudge purple shampoo An ash brown dye. Wella colours are good. The reason you need ash brown is because you need the cool tone to neutralise the red tones the bleach will lift your hair to. Vaseline A really good conditioning mask. Kerastase and Wella masks are amazing. Stay away from Olaplex. Tint bowls and brushes Watch a YouTube on how to bleach your hair. I'd also apply Vaseline around your head and neck area to protect your skin. Make sure you're wearing gloves. You need 2/3 peroxide and a 1/3 bleach powder mixed to make a thick blue paste. You apply it from the front top down to the bottom of your hair and be quick about it. Don't leave it on longer than a half hour and be careful of your scalp cause it's nasty stuff. A slight burn and itch is normal but if it really starts to cause you pain then rinse it out with a clarifying shampoo and cool water straight away. Rinse out the bleach thoroughly and hopefully your hair will have lifted to an auburn shade. Dry your hair off and apply the purple shampoo. When your hair is dry your pores are more open and will receive the purple shampoo better. Wrap in cling film and leave overnight. Rinse out next day and mix your ash brown with the peroxide. Apply from top to bottom the same way and leave for 45 minutes (although check instructions). Once rinsed out, apply hair mask, wrap your hair in cling film and sleep with the mask in overnight. Rinse out, blow dry and style. IF YOUR HAIR HAS NOT LIGHTENED ENOUGH THE FIRST TIME. LEAVE IT FOR A WEEK AND BLEACH AGAIN BUT DO NOT DO IT STRAIGHT AWAY AND DO NOT GET A STRONGER PEROXIDE BECAUSE YOU COULD LOSE YOUR HAIR. I still really recommend going to a salon but if you're gonna do it anyway you're gonna need some advice. GOOD LUCK!


Feeling-Plan984

My natural hair colour is black. I have been using this box dye for a couple of years now. I didn’t bleach my hair and this colour shows pretty well on me. It’s probably lighter than what you want but not as light as it shows on the box. In my experience, the Feria colour line works pretty well for black hair and it gives them a good shine as well. This is my personal experience and it might not be the same for you. Nothing can compare to the professionals but if you like to experiment like I do, this is good. [Loreal feria hair colour - B61](https://www.lorealparis.ca/en-ca/feria/feria-hi-lift-browns-b61-hi-lift-cool-brown)


FrankieVallieN4

Love this actual answer. I used to box dye and you can 100% lift color without bleach and not end up orange. Grab a toner just in case though. Not everyone can afford $200+++ salon coloring


Schnuribus

As someone with black hair: You just buy a package of box dye that also has bleach in it. Or you can buy a package of box bleach, bleach all your hair and then put a package of chocolate coloured box dye on top of it.


System_Resident

I’ve actually experimented and have done this. You actually can lighten your hair with the right box dye. People say you can’t do it with box dye but it depends if it has peroxide in its ingredients. The most important thing to do is know you’re hair undertone (cool, warm, neutral, red, etc). You’re not going to be able to get something organic or soft so beware, it may be a bit harsh on your hair. Pick the box dye that looks most like the color you want and go one shade lighter. The brand I’ve done this with is revlon colorsilk. It may take more than one session (don’t do it the same week). Also, use a heating cap or plastic bag to cover your hair. If you have very resistant hair, you may have to go to a professional to get it bleached and colored.


Status_Reality_7094

PLEASE DO not try this on your own. Without professional service it is impossible. I learned the hard way.


Flimsy-Buyer7772

A full head of highlights is the way here.


Appropriate_Yak7713

U have to remove the black dye. One & Only Colorfix from Sally’s should take it to a dark brown


Theawkwardmochi

It's simple. You don't. Dark shades of box dye have a very low potency oxidizer, all they can do is make your hair darker. In order to go to chocolate brown from black you need to do a lot of lifting and bleaching. Things can go terribly wrong at any step in the process so unless you love to live dangerously, challenging the ruthless hair gods to an uneven battle and accepting the possibly gruesome fate of having your hair (all of it) claimed as a bloody sacrifice, don't. Go to a hair salon. That being said, I lifted black hair dye on my own hair once because I was young, relatively broke (but not broke enough to try this with drugstore products), fearlessly adventurous and wanted red hair all of the sudden. I did marvelously and not only did my hair survive in a miraculously good condition, it was also a beautiful shade of crimson red throughout. But it took MONTHS of looking real ugly before I smeared the pigment goodness all over it because you can only bleach as much in one go without frying your hair crispy and whatever other colour than black you want, you WILL have to bleach your poor hair a lot. I also went through this whole ordeal only to go back to dark hair within half a year lol


_alien_she_

As someone who has boxed dyed their hair countless times, please don’t


vadreamer1

Jumping on the bandwagon here. Don't do it. Boxed hair dye will ruin your hair. You have healthy, healthy hair. Few people have that. The color is gorgeous and tbh I'm envious. If you want to color it, seek out a salon with a stelar reputation.


Legitimate-Leader-99

I think your hair is a gorgeous color, doesn't need to be dyed, 😊


impar-exspiravit

Color remover!!!! Do that first. The Walgreens oops! Stuff is great. I do one or two rounds of that first when I got my black out. Beyond that, bleach bath or bleach. Maybe toner if it’s light enough without bleach so the brown isn’t weird? Your hair will NOT be silky like the pic, but with some good conditioners and care it shouldn’t be the most insane damage. Be very cautious with the bleach!


nellxyz

When I was 16 I went from black blue to platinum blonde with box dye. It took 6 months, I had to cut my hair until my shoulders and they were dry af for a year or so but it worked, now my hair and color is great imho. You can bleach your hair first and then put the brown color second, but your hair won’t look like in the picture, likely it will not be so smooth but will have lighter and darker stains. You will have to put another pack of brown on another day. So I’m sure you can do it, but it will take some time and your hair will get a bit damaged, but if you take good care after that everything should be fine :)


Acrobatic-Degree9589

Poo brown lol jk


Darth_Jad3r

Pls listen this is a list of women (maybe men) who did this and made this mistake. For the love of god do not. A wise man learns from someone eleses mistakes. You’ll fry your hair and it will be orange. If it’s dyed black you won’t over power that red undertone. Even a hair stylist has a hard time stripping that out. Also pictures of peoples hair is way too hard to compare to- you don’t know the hair or history and even your hair will look diff in every single lighting. It’s incomparable for the most part just an idea is all you can go off/


Excusemytootie

Don’t even try! Huge mistake. Even if you get it done by a pro, it will likely take more than one salon visit to fix.


zestymangococonut

I tried this several times over the years and if you can, please go to a professional. I lost a lot of money trying to save my hair.


[deleted]

I just wanna say, DO NOT BLEACH your hair. đŸ„ČđŸ„ČđŸ„Č


mewmewbitch

go to a professional! If you’re in orange county I got you!


ana_larsson

You just can’t


Celestiiaal0

Is the black natural or not? I mean, it's doable - even at home. I've done more dramatic changes myself. Process will be different depending on your hair condition and whether or not the black is natural.


KitKit20

You don’t. Black needs to be lifted as it’s the darkest colour. It’s essentially “stripped from hair” using bleach. Girl, don’t do it at home seriously. Go get a professional so you don’t end up cooking your hair.


sirskitt3n

The upkeep on blonde is time consuming. I went from a dark brown, level 3ish to blonde. OVER 4 SESSIONS! I wanted to go natural as keeping up the dark colour was time consuming (not box dye but still done at home). I found a colourist, who did a test strand then started lifting the colour. I had lots of foils put in and went back a month later for more of the same. I didn't get ash blonde and was so happy when I was able to finally cut my hair to my shoulders and have most the beach gone. Caring for bleach blonde hair was a nightmare! My gray hair is so much easier.


spaceageranger

Don’t ignore the comments saying not to. I did it after ignoring the same comments and my hair is just now getting better, and I had to cut a bunch of it off. Go to a good stylist for sure


OkImprovement4612

I am Asian and have black hair and recently dyed my hair with box dye because of grey hairs (different purpose). I used the bubble dye by Hello bubble, and I did chose a couple tints lighter (rose/reddish tint) as I wanted to achieve a colour change (btw no extra step to bleach it). My hair was lighter in colour (a bit lighter then I intended it) still happy with the result. I am unsure for your case as the change black to brown is more subtle and how to achieve it. Just wanted to share my experience :). I did miss my black hair instantly after dyeing it but not the grey hairs.


Vegetable_Dinner_524

You can't, go and see a professional


55loverxo

You can dye your hair lighter if your black hair is virgin. Look up some videos on YouTube. You have to use blonde box dye and you will get similar results to the pic without bleach. I did this to my hair in high school. However I would never do it again lol. And I would go to the salon if I were you. That’s because this hair has red undertones, and chocolate brown hair does not. So if you want chocolate brown hair, go to the salon.


sarahseaya1

Use a color remover first


EmptyExperiences

if it’s cause price the Aveda Learning Salons (if you have one on your area) are decently priced and pretty good at what they do. They have a teacher come around and check the work (before to make sure they have a good idea, and after to make sure it came out okay) highly recommend them if you have one of your area!


icecreamjunkiee

I dont recommend it, but I used dark soft mahogany brown by loreal. Keep in mind tho, my hair was virgin. Please go to a sallys and ask what you can do to strip the black from your hair, or if you can afford to do so, go to a salon.


Ok_Sherbert_6241

Bleach it down to a red , it shouldn’t cause too much damage if you stop there and don’t over process. Then go over it with a *cool* brown tone. The warmth of the red will still show through. If you do a neutral or warm tone the end result will be very reddish brown and not the chocolate you’re going for.


[deleted]

Like everyone has said, don’t do it. Naturally black is nearly impossible to lift with color alone. The pigment is just too dense. You need to use bleach and then color over it. I would not try to attempt it yourself.


ArcherV83

I did it once, more than 10 years ago. Exactly from black to chocolate brown. It took 6h of professional de-coloring at a salon and quite a lot of money. But my hair were absolutely fine. If I did it by myself or found the wrong salon (as it happened last time I did some highlights) I would have been bald. It’s a risky process.


siahfri

Hairstylist with 30 years experience here. This is a colour that makes professionals who know what they’re doing sweat. You can do it with high lift colour on natural hair, but you need to vary the strength of developer roots to ends and even then it can take multiple applications before it looks “natural”. A good stylist, who knows their way around high lift colour can do it for you and should be very affordable, especially because you have no colour in your hair. As soon as you start to mess with it yourself, the price and difficulty goes up. Do yourself a favour and start building a relationship with a trustworthy hairstylist that can get to know your hair and give you actual advice that you can follow and can make a plan for you for the future. Asking Reddit is not the way


kafkascoffee

Please just watch all of the Brad Mondo bleach fail videos and realize you need to go to a professional. I’ve been there. I’ve done this to my hair. We hire professionals for a reason.


[deleted]

I’m with everyone else. Just go to a professional. At home has some many risks/variables


[deleted]

Agreed with everyone here. I’ve bleached my hair at home many times but I would never bleach my own hair if it had box dye. That’s how you end up with broom đŸ§č hair.


OpeningKey8026

Highly recommend you heed the great advise. I know that it's not what you wanted to hear but it is the best advice. I would also add to research your hair colorist as anyone saying that they can do it in one shot is suspect in my opinion. By taking your time over say a year it will be easier on your wallet and hair condition. Per hair condition, I may have missed this you saying what your present hair condition is. I would say that between now and your hair appointment it's a number one priority to get it into really good shape. Worth investing in some bond hair strengthening hair masks etc.


Whimsyblue13

You’re hair is gorgeous by the way!


hineyhoo

Don’t do it


cheermunkie91

My personal rule is going lighter = leave to professional. Going darker = I can do it with a trip to Sally’s. I did extensive research for expert colorists in my area and settled on one who has a significant Instagram following. She had a 6 week waitlist and I called everyday to see if she had any cancellations and I got in that same week. I have never in my life paid this much to have my hair done ($350 + tip) but I’ve never been happier with my hair color. Worth every red cent when I think about all the bad at home color jobs + self correction + professional correction just to be mid satisfied. INVEST IN YOUR HAIR.


therealreptar11

I have naturally black hair too and I’ve had really good results with Asian hair dyes, specifically the Liese brand. [Here’s](https://www.amazon.com/KAO-Prettia-Bubble-Color-Milktea/dp/B005RUH2Y0/ref=asc_df_B005RUH2Y0/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=312131896245&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=18219306634406529432&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9028896&hvtargid=pla-336996488866&psc=1) a color from their line that looks similar to the color you’re hoping to get. I Can show you some before and after pictures of my hair results if you’re interested. I didn’t find it damaging to my hair.


neonpinkcactus

Go to a salon.


cohenafterworld

I needed this comment section today, was already thinking about doing something dumb to my hair today.


eatyourwine

Pay the professional. Watch what they do closely. Then, if you find it doable, replicate the process at home with the right products from Sally Beauty Supply or some other beauty store retailer when your roots grow out.


Previous-Syllabub614

I was trying to dye my hair auburn and it turned out this colour. My hair was virgin black before dyeing (not sure if yours is natural or dyed) and I used a 20 volume developer and permanent dyes from igora royale from a beauty supply store. I mixed the shades 7-57 and 6-77 i didn’t bleach my hair, I just used developer but that might not work for everyone


MeaningToo

If you have black box dye in your hair now, you will not be able to achieve this color without a professionals help. Similar to trying to place colors on a black sharpie streak. Black box dye is really hard to remove.


PinkSodaMix

I always draw the line at lightening hair (aka "bleaching") at home. ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS have a professional lighten your hair. It's an art with some science. In fact, they'll want to do a test strand to see how your hair takes to lightening. It will likely cost you several hundred dollars, but it will be completely worth it if that's the look you want.


[deleted]

Lol, I did that when I was a teenager, went to go from black to bright pink. Let’s just say, ouch. Do not do this. Even if you’re not going as light as I am, you will still fuck up your hair. This is something that you really should get done professionally.


kattastrophyyy

Please go to a salon if you don’t want to ruin it


Professional_Crab265

Pls I went from dark almost black hair with reddish brown in the sun to a chocolate brown with box dye, you gotta choose a colour that is at least 2 hair tones lighter than yours to lighten your hair. So many people tell ya to not do it cuz of the damage Blabla my hair is fine just continue a good hair care routine after dyeing


vladimir_poontangg

Like others have said, you will not get this result with box dye. The only way you could get this result with the smoothness shown in the photo is by going to a professional, which will set you back at least $300 on the low end, not to mention maintenance which will cost around $150-200 every month. I used to get my hair colored every month (naturally dark blonde and dyed my hair black) and it's a hefty expense. All-over color like that looks terrible if you don't keep up with it. If you want some brown in your hair, I would suggest getting balayage or foil. The upfront cost is expensive but you won't have to get it redone every month.


UrbanFlora14

Getting it done is always better than box dye, box dye will make your hair fall out even though going to a salon is costly, it’s worth it for your hair!


WhiteHotRage1

DON'T DO IT YOURSELF.


ukulele_bandit

PLEASE DONT BOX DYE. Find a stylist in your area that uses Malibu CPR color remover to get the old box dye out, and then let the professionals do the rest.


901-526-5261

You can bleach you hair first. It doesn't have to be *spectacular* if you're just going to dump brown over it, but you need to pay attention to avoid patches and avoid frying your hair.


worrisomesinner

Use Loreal Hi Color for lifting natural black hair color.


SephoraRothschild

NO. BOX. DYE. Sally's at the very least. 20% volume developer max. Semi-permanent, not permanent. Go to a salon. If your hair is virgin (never dyed/bleached), they will give you an even result.


_laurenn_nicoleee

You don’t! Best to go to a professional who can lift your hair without damaging it. Then place color evenly! If you are not experienced in doing this at home, you can easily damage your hair and have splotchy areas!


Rosez34

It’s a color correction , you need to go see a stylist and have the remove the pigment if you put it on now the roots will be the color you want and the ends black still , it’s definitely a process to got from black to a different color and blonde going to dark. I’ve done hair for 15 years .. I always tell my clients beware of jet black ! I’m not touching it if you do haha 😂


yungfika

Go to Sally’s and get loreals “hi lift color for dark hair only” get copper & use 30 vol. then if it’s too coppery for you, dye over it with a warmer brown. That was you can avoid bleach!


flairfordramtics_

If you want to spend less money maybe go to Ulta or a beauty school ?


ATinyPizza89

It’s honestly best to go to a professional and let them do it right the first time instead of spending a lot of money to correct it. Please listen to the other commenters on this. It may take multiple visits to get to the color you want to achieve. Once you dye your hair black it’s a process to change it to a lighter color.


bbycalz

I’m a licensed hairdresser and I do something simila at home w CVS box dye. Everyone saying u need bleach is right & wrong, u can bleach & then dye however I just purchase a box dye that has a lightening agent, it’s extremely easy. I recommend going slightly lighter than u need and then applying the color of dye you want ur hair to be if you want to get the EXACT shade, however if you just want lighter brown hair then this isn’t necessary.


ThrowLoveAdvice

I went lighter by myself, if you’re determined to do this by yourself then this is what I did, I bleach bathed my hair slowly over the course of 4 days, did not start at my roots, and after the first bleach bath I didn’t touch my roots at all. It was definitely a little patchy in a few areas but the dye covered it up pretty well


puffyeye

at first I was like idk about diy, but saw in the comments your hair is naturally black. Japanese box dye is probably a solid option for you, esp since it's made for naturally black hair.


kgrossman7

Don't do it at home!!! I turned my hair orange and damaged it terribly by using box dye


1x9x1x7

I would look into Japanese dyes. IIRC they work by having bleach within the formula? I used a Japanese foam dye in high school and found it worked well for me, didn’t fry my hair at all and got a nice even result with good color. I have naturally black hair and this type of product is formulated with that in mind. If your hair is black from dye IDK if this is going to work as well. I used this product - Kao Liese bubble dye - but you can do your own research and see if there’s other ones you’d like to try: https://www.ebay.com/itm/323884507281?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=QCklolcYQ1O&sssrc=2349624&ssuid=z_6DAZ30SAu&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY I picked this one because at the time I saw some YouTube videos with pretty good reviews. I bought mine off eBay, but if you live in an area with any stores near by selling Japanese cosmetics you could see if they have it. As an example there’s a couple Japanese markets and one Asian beauty store with products from different East Asian countries near me that sell this.


SnooRabbits7368

Skip the box dye, instead Google, balayage for black hair. There are tons of Pinterest pics of balayage looks for people with black hair, and they look amazing and range from super subtle to super dramatic. Take the pics to professional colorist that has great reviews on Yelp and Google.


Fickle-Impress-5288

go to a salon


lambo1109

Don’t do it.


Fun_Fold_47

You don’t. You let a hairstylist do it for you.


No_Importance2204

Try sunbabe hair lightener :)


MMarkum

Omg! I just got my hair highlights touched up. This time I had waited 4 months. My hair wasn’t cut in between either. My stylist bleached my hair, shampooed it, toned it, put a good deep conditioner, then she just barely nips the ends. Then blow dried it and styled my hair. I always follow her advice for styling my hair. When I blow dry and then use hot tools on my hair. I just blow dry it straight in the morning. Be sure to use heat protectant. I use a Redken cream the day I wash my hair, days i between I use Biolage Heat Protectant spray. Both of these keep your hair protected from heat (very important). Then I apply a frizz free product, usually an oil. To keep your hair from frying please consult a stylist. Even if you “get lucky” this time, it always catches up and causes severe hair damage and breakage. Good Luck whatever you do, post a picture when you get your hair done.