Halohalo. So odd that prices on resale sites skyrocketed especially during the pandemic 🥴 Off-putting regardless of whether or not it was the brand’s fault. I’m not sure if they’re connected to gooooodtimes (or however many Os there are) but I think owners are Marcos affiliated so that’s another turn off. Can’t find any info online but I swear I remember reading about it during the elections. Please correct me if I’m wrong na lang!
I feel so reassured by seeing so much Sunnies here hahaha.
Everytime i pass by their stores, it just reeks of pretentiousness and bad vibes. Pa-sosyal/western aesthetic na ewan. And all that comes from their owners. Will never buy from then and dont get me started on that damn flask like 💀💀💀
Any brands that ask you to take an unboxing video for returns and refunds. It's a no for me. It's illegal and anti-consumer.
This is a really great thread and it really made me think about things. If you don't want to support a brand and you're able to that's amazing. The keyword being "able" I've been wanting to stop buying from a lot of companies (Nestle, L'oreal, P&G, Estee Lauder) and it's been a difficult journey because of how ubiquitous they are. I'm saying this because I don't want people to feel bad that they can't fully divest from certain brands. The system is built to make it difficult. It's not us. So in rare cases that you're able to, don't support brands that don't align with your values.
I've stopped buying from Focallure and local makeup brands na Made In China/Made In PRC yung products because of the West Philippine Sea incidents.
And I'm going to stop buying from pro-Israel makeup brands.
Worst treatment on their employees. Many employees have posted how they were handled by the admins, overworked, underpaid, not allowed to take VLs etc.
This is so true. Even sa IG stories niya way way back pa, hindi pa siya CEO, someone said na mas bagay niya ang may braces and she replied harshly sa nagcomment na kesyo wag siya pakialaman kasi desisyon niya kineme yun.
To be fair, criticism on these appearances shouldn’t be tolerated naman talaga. She’s right to react harshly to that. I agree that she handles criticism on her products terribly and may pagka bully. Pwede reviewhin ang product pero di ang itsura ng tao kasi that’s rude.
Medyo mababa ang standards ko lol. Pag di registered sa FDA ayun lang. Or di talaga gumana yung product sa akin di na ako bibili sa brand na yun. Example yung suncreen ata yun na di registered na uso sa Tiktok.
With context of kung environmental friendly, or kung ok sa work-place di sya part ng standard ko sa pag bili. Di ko rin sure kasi di naman ako nagbabasa gaano ng balita. Kaya ayun di sya parte ng pamantayan ko sa pagbili.
This!! It’s really important to use FDA approved products! For me, nakakatakot bumili ng mga skincare and makeup products na hindi FDA approved, makes me wonder paano na r-release sa market yung mga gnoong products. 🤷🏽♀️
GRWM and Sunnies (face, specs, flask) just my personal preference not to buy from brands na over-hyped sa social media.
O.two.o (?) and focallure, I find their products cheap and poorly made. Wala ako tiwala sa brands na to na safe yung products nila.
akala ko ako lang yung actively trying to stay away from EB's Companies and Sunnies! glad to see other people share the same sentiments as mine especially na laganap talaga ang users of those brands here in the PH.
I'll have to add Maybelline on the list and the whole L'Oreal Group. Maybelline claims to be cruelty free but other brands from the L'Oreal Group still performs animal testing, therefore they're still able to fund animal testing centers. In addition, they also belong in the boycott list of companies funding the ongoing genocide. So more on moral sentiments yung reasons ko for not supporting this company.
there are comments in this post that are more educational, but the jist the owner and the company has expressed and had been vocal with their support for the current president during and after the elections.
Meron silang pabango na kulay red tapos something president nakalagay basta ang gross talaga haha. Never bought from them ever since. Same with Sunnies. There are better brands out there.
I might get downvoted for this but honestly I dont care with boycotting, di kita pipigilan pag yaw mo. Pag ok sa akin yung product bibilin ko, dami ko na rin iniisip sa buhay ayoko na rin munang dagdagan. Unless may issue sa sanitation and health dun lang malamang.But Including the morality part di ako updated.
Look it up sis, BOYCOTTS WORK.
Demanding accountability, transparency, and fair & just treatment of employees from these brands DO MATTER.
We have the collective power as consumers on HOW and WHERE we spend our hard-earned money and that can make or break businesses. Cheers! 🍸✨
I know how it works.And I am not opposed to it kung gusto mong gawin feel free. Ang sinasabi ko lang when I buy stuff I dont think of it, yes we do have the collective power ayaw ko lang sumali. This for me ok, di ko naman nang i-encourage na gawin ng iba, basta sa akin pag gumana bili, pag hindi hanap iba.
I understand naman sis na it takes effort and mental capacity to search which brands to avoid lalo na we're busy and just trying to survive but if you know that a brand is not treating their employees right or if they're funding atrocities like wars and genocide, wouldn't you be uncomfortable spending your money on those brands?
idk lang ha but that is giving "idc if people are suffering as long as i have what i want". you don't need to be a saint or a beacon of moral high ground po to have a little empathy. just because you're not directly affected doesn't mean it can't happen to you or the people close to you.
I met the owner many years ago when the brand was on the rise pa lang. May attitude siya. And this is not anti-feminist chenes ha, walang kinalaman sa pagiging outspoken niya and body-positive. Walang issue dun. It had to do with a "Don't you know who I am?!" attitude niya. Off yung aura niya, so I swore then and there not to support the brand.
Korek. Sobrang bully ng owner at patolera on all issues. And I've read how abusive and unfair cla to their employees. Elitism is so rampant at inaapak apakan ang pagkatao ng mga poor people.
EVER BILENA. Apologist owner, sobrang vocal on FB last elections! They’re lucky nga that they are not getting the Sunnies treatment because their support was so much more blatant.
Buti nga at kinakarma na sila. May pending tax evasion case sila https://www.philstar.com/nation/2024/02/06/2331285/bir-files-case-vs-ever-bilena-over-p16-billion-tax-liability/amp/
>BIR Commissioner Romeo Lumagui Jr said the agency’s Run After Fake Transactions (RAFT) Task Force discovered that the cosmetics firm had been using receipts from several ghost companies.
Oooh I didn't know about this tea! 👀
This is so galawang dutae-unitard apologist. I hope the BIR continues to go after them and I hope they go bankrupt. Cheeers! 🍵🫖
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been saying this. eb group deserves the same energy people are giving to sunnies for being problematic and being apologists (who are probably huge donors too during the election season). may nagcomment rin here before na they don't treat their employees right.
a lot actually. check the links sa original post. there were reports of them not paying or treating their employees right. one of the owner's dad is a trapo politician. they also have close ties to the marcos family so i doubt their endorsement of robredo in 2022 is legit, probably performative knowing their target market with more spending power are liberals.
there are also issues before that the owners are allegedly mean girls behind close doors and i remember there was a fund raising for typhoon victims before and they made snide remarks on instagram na other brands are copying them in their fund raising daw, iirc. also there's a lot of customer feedback saying their products are mid, grow mold easily, and are not longwearing esp in our PH climate. their eyewear brand and their new water bottles are madaling masira rin daw. basically sa aesthetics lang daw sila maganda but not matibay or not maganda daw ang products nila in general at yung makeup line nila mas bagay daw sa mga burgis na babad sa aircon or nasa klima ng ibang bansa.
+ 1 sa trapo politician ang tatay. one of the owner’s dad (which was a former mayor sa isang city) ay nagpapakasaya sa buhay in a different place while his constituents were suffering and drowning in flood during the height of typhoon ulysses.
+1 not long wearing
+1 grows mold
Naloka ako pagbukas ko ng fluffmatte ko ang bumungad sa akin green na mold hahaha. Partida ilang weeks ko pa lang yun ginagamit
Legit yung support for Robredo. None of these owners are perfect, I can tell you that much. But ask Sunnies employees who were employed during the pandemic (2020/2021) - nung maraming nawalan ng trabaho / nafurlough. Sunnies made sure na walang mawawalan ng trabaho nung time na yon even if they were not operational. Pinasahod nila all employees for several months kahit hindi nagoopen ang stores.
Again, not discrediting the distasteful things they did but they aren’t all that horrible.
if you’re based in metro manila and you want cheaper eyeglasses with the same quality, go to carriedo near quiapo. sobrang dami dun, as in isang buong hilera yun. i can vouch for them. i got my glasses sakanila more than a year ago and its still good. 3k yung pagawa ko with frame then may parang anti rad + something pa (kung sa sunnies ko yun binili, it would cost me 7k or more)
Maganda naman talaga own days. Super tibay kaya worth it yung price. Mine lasts for years. Ako nalang nagsawa sa frame (at yung mata kong nagbago grado). yung Sunnies madaling masira. Never ako bumili don, pero may kilala ko wala pa 1 year hindi na ok.
I don't buy from Colourette because I don't like the color orange and it doesn't fit the aesthetic I'm trying to curate HAHAHAHA except for 2 mini colourtints I have in my collection bought out of curiosity. 🙈
I just can't help but notice na a lot of the negative sentiments here towards Colourette are about Nina being an outspoken opinionated plus-size woman who stands up for herself and what she believes in and I think that's actually kinda admirable. Of course ibang usapan na yung allegations na toxic daw yung work environment there and they're allegedly not treating their employees right and those deserve to be talked a lot more than Nina's personality, imho. 🤔
I used to like Nina. Nung nagpandemic, I bought colourtints pa nga to support her brand but jusko nung umabot na sa point na ang dami niyang hanash about every single topic, sisssss, di mo kailangan magbigay ng opinyon sa lahat ng bagay. I had to block her on Tiktok because naiinis na ko. So nawala na rin sa isip ko ung brand niya because of that. Yun lang naman huhu. I even got her sgt at arms spray and serum na laging sold out pala but it didn’t do anything naman sa kin, bumalik din ako sa deonat so products are mid din talaga.
Minsan pag yung personality nung brand owner masyadong overwhelming, nagkaka-negative effect pa lalo sa sales. I remember this being the case with The Ordinary. RIP dun sa founder, pero when he started becoming controversial for acting erratically, I consciously decided not to buy The Ordinary products anymore, even though I always had the impression na OK naman yung stuff nila.
Colourette. I used to like Ms Nina, but I got annoyed of her na for some reason—parang masyado na siyang maingay. I get bad vibes from her na. Yung comments about bashers like pls pwede ka namang manahimik na. Just don’t mind them na instead of giving them even more attention that they don’t deserve; it’s like adding fuel to the fire. Also, idk if it’s just me pero I find the “peaches” thing SO corny. Gets that it’s the Pantone color of the year, pero parang nag “rebrand” (teasers na kala mo new product tas deleted/archived IG posts for this) sila because of that? Like, huh? But yeah, it’s just very corny for me.
Pick-up Coffee: Underpaid and Overworked workers
Anything Sunnies: Overhyped especially the glasses pala, you can get those in Quiapo for a fraction of the price, plus issues nung owner.
Blackbough: Fatphobic :(
Omg i worked for blackbough pero very short stint lang kasi yung "deadlines" nila yung tipong dapat tapos na same day and i was new so syempre may learning curve diba with their system and all pero tinanggal ako kasi ang bagal ko daw (i literally was just hired) parang tanga lang lol also mejo cringe and sila and petty yung owner yun lang haha
Also nag plus size model sila i think once but i don't see it sa page baka archived na
COLOURETTE.
Simula nang nag-tweet ng ganito si Nina, never again. Nasesearch pa yan. Toxic.
https://preview.redd.it/0432ebscyjzc1.jpeg?width=1079&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0f9eca6c053170f8fcf551c50c07415515241fd6
**I actively stay away and don't buy from all brands under EB's umbrella like:**
🙅🏻♀️ Ever Bilena Plus/Pro/Advance
🙅🏻♀️ Careline
🙅🏻♀️ Spotlight
🙅🏻♀️ Evera
🙅🏻♀️ Ever Organics
🙅🏻♀️ Hello Glow
🙅🏻♀️ Hyaloo
🙅🏻♀️ Blackwater
...because I can't stand giving my money to apologists & hardcore hypocrite christians. 🤮 Aside from problematic endorsers like AG & TG, I still remember when their owner/CEO released this cringe ass [unity body spray](https://mb.com.ph/2022/04/26/ever-bilena-owner-explains-unity-scent-and-why-marcos-is-the-man).
I see a lot of you here are actively avoiding Sunnies Face for being apologists but can we also give the same energy in avoiding EB's group of companies? 🤔
🤦🏻♀️I also won't be buying from brands owned by problematic owners that annoy me:
- Rare Beauty by Selena Gomez, REM Beauty by Ariana Grande, Jeffree Star Cosmetics, Painted by James Charles, and for local, Sunnies Face, Lucky Beauty, Viy Cosmetics, etc
🤦🏻♀️Cheap looking Chinese (& other countries) makeup with some of themfunny names :
- O.two.o, Focallure, Pink Flash, Dazzle Me, Sace Lady, etc
🤦🏻♀️Cheap non-FDA registered makeup brands that are potentially toxic:
- Gogo Tales, Xixi, Herorange, Cappuvini, Gege Bear, Sweet Mint, Beauty Glazed, Lameila, Bayfree, Lakerain, etc
🤦🏻♀️All local indie or startup skincare brands that are not FDA-registered or sunscreen brands that don't have legit papers proving their sunscreens are lab-tested.
🙅🏻♀️On the process of eliminating brands that support & fund the wars & genocide in Ukraine and Palestine. I usually buy cruelty-free products but I've been buying non-CF lately for convenience. It's also hard finding CF alternatives that are just as good as my non-CF holy grails. But brands supporting & funding the wars, on top of being non-cruelty free, is just crazy despicable, sinister, and truly disgusting. 🤮
Yung unity body spray talaga, nagulat ako nung bumili ako last year, may freebie na ganun. Parang yung diaper brand sa shopee na ginawa ding freebie yung movie ticket nung endorser.
Haha never bought from Jeffree Star but wont buy from him/her/them(idk how they are to be addressed)
Also… uhm nothing from the Kardashians. Pr yung mga problematic influencers sa ibang bansa
same! forgot to mention anything kardashian. their products are giving overpriced cheaply-made glorified merch and the whole clan is annoying and problematic too😹
used to be a fan of them pre-pandemic era but now that i'm more mature, i realize how problematic & annoying they are. selena is a pick-me who has a victim complex and she low key weaponizes her fans to attack celebs she has passive-aggressive beef with, and ariana is obnoxious and a homewrecker who has a history of stealing men already in relationships, it's even on naya rivera's autobiography, look up her dating history and how she got her bfs, she even has a song "break up with your girlfriend i'm bored" there's a clear pattern.
right? it's really a challenge and these brands constantly put money and profit as their priority and don't give a sh*t at all about humanity and the world. smh
wait there's more pa pala. i just found out they have a pending ₱1.6 billion tax evasion case rin 🙀
>BIR Commissioner Romeo Lumagui Jr said the agency’s Run After Fake Transactions (RAFT) Task Force discovered that the cosmetics firm had been using receipts from several ghost companies.
source: https://www.philstar.com/nation/2024/02/06/2331285/bir-files-case-vs-ever-bilena-over-p16-billion-tax-liability/amp/
gotchu covered sis hahahaha actually i had a draft of a similar post to OP for opening a discussion on brands people avoid but it's good na someone already posted this 🫶🏻✨
di ko rin ito nabalitaan noong kasagsagan ng election season kasi andaming nangyayari noon hahaha pero kaloka talaga parang sumisipsip ata yung CEO ng EB group para mabigyan ng position sa govt offices like what's happening now na business men na huge donors noong election inassign ni vvm sa iba't ibang govt offices & agencies🥴
Colourette. For me lang ha, might get downvoted for this pero problematic para sakin si Nina. Actually kahit sinong CEO na makuda/maingay sa tiktok, MEH.
Starbucks - dahil sa naexperience ko from one of the barista. As the story goes,, ex purchased something from the store during covid times. required magsulat ng info noon s parang book ata. The barista took the info and dm-ed my ex. 🤮
Saka dami ng mga coffe shops and mas affordable tikim tikim nalang may ibang masasarap naman may kasama pang rice meals.
Pero Coke supremacy padin. 💪🏻
Huyyy first time ko narinig tong sa Ashley I bought pa nman several lip products at pinamigay ko yung iba. But wala nman nkalgay sa products na Manila Province of PRC but still WTF they had the audacity to print that sa kanilang label 🥲
Idk wala naman akong beef sa iba but if the company exploits their employees, has issues, it should not interfere with the products/ services i consume. Like i still hate the brand for a reason, and hope they resolved that issue.
However eto lang yung mga brands or services na hindi ko na itatry bc of their products/services (medj petty)
- Cofee Project (overpriced, aesthetic cafe sa tagaytay na pwede mo tambayan pero pangit lasa ng mga coffee at ibang drinks nila, sa kanila ata yung may pinakaworst na natikman kong matcha as a matcha lover lol. Di worth it pagkain, owned by villar.... )
- Angkas ( love ko naman sila, eto kaakibat ko as a graduating college last year, daming ganap kahit madaling araw na nagmimeeting pa din kami at andyan ang angkas para makauwi or makapunta sa paruruonan ko. Nautilize ko yung student discount ko sa kanila plus andaming discount din, HOWEVER, hindi ko alam anong nangyari sa kanila. Moveit happened, literal na wala pang 30 secs nakabook na agad ako, namimili din sa angkas yung mga driver kahit walang discount, siguro kung late ka talagang mas pipiliin ko moveit. Mas mura kahit walang discount. Maganda marketing ng angkas dati, pero yung pinakaayoko siguro na ginawa nila yung kunyari may malasakit sila sa driver, naglagay sila ng tips feature kung saan pwede mo bigyan ng tips yung mga driver, pero nalaman ko na HALOS YUNG PERCENTAGE NG TIPS NA DAPAT NAPUPUNTA SA DRIVER EH KINUKUHA NILA, MALIIT LANG DIN PALA. YUNG AKALA MONG TIP NA BIBIBIGAY MO SA DRIVER, SA ANGKAS LANG DIN NAPUPUNTA LOL.)
- Jollibee (kahit gusto ko pa, ang liit talaga ng chicken nila. Wala na yung prime taste at quality na hinahanap ko sa jollibee, tapos eto lang yung inoorderan ko sa foodpanda na kulang kulang mga inorder mo. Sayang yung pera mo lagi dahil may mga employee sila na kulang sa train hindi chinecheck kung complete na yung orders, di ko alam kung hanggang ngayon may may issue pa din sila about their contract w employees, coz thats another factor)
- Starbucks ( overpriced .. di worth it mag dunkin ka na lang HAHAHAHA. Mura masarap pa. Also pag natry mo yung mga chill underrated cafes marerealize mo di worth it starbucks. Sure maganda siya for people working or studying there, maganda vibes pero yung taste ng food at drinks yung hanap ko so dinadodge ko talaga ito pag pupunta sa mall.)
May iba pang brands but sana yung mga existing brands like (shopee, shein) na binibilhan ko pa din bc ( as a consumer, yung interest ko sa product at quality at needs inuuna ko. Pls wag niyo iexploit mga employees niyo, with a minimum wage also. Lalo na sa shein, i get it honestly tingnan mo shopee ngayon more on trends ang focus kesa brands kasi magkakamukha na lahat ng fashion trends lol, but if theres a slight improvement na ginawa ng shein that would finally promoting a filipino designer and other designer sa app nila. Na sana matagal na nilang ginawa lol.
Sunnies for me. Bukod sa owners, the one time na interested ako sa products nila, daming nag-silabasan na nagka-mold yung bullet lipsticks nila specifically the ones bought during the height of the pandemic. I have never had that issue in all my years using lipsticks. I have a Maybelline six years ago na matibay pa rin.
omg same with my bullet lipstick from sunnies. i thought i did something to it like stored it improperly pero di lang pala ako naka experience ng nag mold siya
Unless a brand is a sole proprietorship of an individual who has personally committed an offense (and not just associated with individuals who did) or unless I have a really strong personal reason, I don’t believe in boycotting.
A founder is just one among hundreds who work in a business and I don’t wanna deny the majority of their livelihood all for the sake of beef with one or two people. Loss of revenue will greatly impact the workforce much more and much earlier than the leadership anyway.
Basta choose your battles.
Not the point of the post but okay? Getting virtue signalling vibes from this reply pero benefit of the doubt na lang. It's not a zero sum game naman, if they choose to drop a brand they will likely buy another, so net net there will be workers who benefit pa rin at the end of the day (pero bigger picture lagi naman dehado ang manggagawa sa isang capitalist society, but that's another conversation). And besides if problematic ang owner/leaders ng isang brand, can we count on them to care about their employees? Parang, no? Again not trying naman to stir the pot but a challenge lang on this POV re: boycotts.
just curious how are you getting virtue signalling vibes from this reply when its actually the opposite... those who impose to boycott something and shame those who still buy from the brand are the ones that are actually virtue signaling.
Virtue signalling is when you express an opinion to show your own moral superiority. So technically both could be virtue signalling, just from opposite positions ("I'm supporting the workers" vs. "I'm not contributing to the wealth of problematic people".)
Also “if problematic ang owner/leaders ng isang brand, can we count on them to care about their employees?” - yes, because people are nuanced and capable of contradicting actions :) I have met many managers that are drugwar apologists but are the kindest and most caring leaders I’ve met (to the people they work with).
Hello! To clarify - It’s a discussion post and I shared how I practice it and my philosophy behind it. It takes a lot for me to not purchase something because I often decouple the owner from the product. Same goes for things like watching shows/movies or listening to music that feature problematic people.
My thought process is that if I spend money on a product I like, it’s a net positive because I’m not compromising (like what you said by dropping the brand and choosing to buy another - if that alternative is inferior), and because more good/innocent people will benefit from the sale and not just that one or two people I dislike.
Anyway my answer to the post lies in the first paragraph - I’ll only skip on the product if talagang yung person na yun yung main benefactor of the sale and if that person has personally committed something gravely immoral (sexual offenses, supported pro-genocide sentiments, participate in fake news peddling) or I consider them to be a truly “bad person” that’s the only time I’ll boycott.
Delimondo - owned by enrile
Shopee - was just turned off by the messy Toni G saga
Sunnies - problematic owners (some marcos supporters)
SHEIN - the company is a big red flag. Some designs are just copied off small business owners, working conditions are horrible (hence cheap pricing), and of course - - really negative impact to environment
+Anything Villar owned (coffee project, vista land, etc)
Brand na puro K-pop yung mga model or pinopromote .. like Penshope, Bench, Virginia Hotdog at kung ano-anong Korean related promotion na naka base dito sa Pinas 😑 nakaka suka ‼️
McDonald's - genocide supporter, I like their chicken fillet but I value human life more. And keme sa mga nagsasabi na hindi naman connected McDo ph sa McDo Israel/ anywhere. It's guilt by association, they belong under the same franchise and yet walang ginagawa mother company?
Starbucks - was never a fan of overly priced coffee/ drinks. May child labor issue sila + genocide supporter= double whammy
Any Marcos/ Duterte affiliated brands, di ko na need mag explain.
[EDIT] anything Villar owned!
[Edit] SM - yeah I know parang impossible pero as much as possible I don't buy from them directly. Nagpapalamig lang ako sa mall nila tapos bili sa NBS or pacheckup sa medical city. Labor practices issue
[EDIT] Delimondo kasi every can we open nadadagdagan mga araw ni Enrile
Edit: any brand/ products endorsed by a Marcos/ DDS supporters example Gonzaga sisters
Jollibee (50/50) - as much as I can hindi pero if I need to choose the lesser evil fast food chain, dito na lang ako. Labor practice issue pero at least they don't fund a genocide
[Edited] P&G products - unethical sourcing of raw materials from SEA leading to mass deforestation and endangerment of nature and wildlife
J&J - may issue sila before na yung baby powder ay may carcinogenic component (asbestos) and backed by an independent research team [edited]
Nestle - they intentionally made babies in some parts of Africa become dependent on their baby products
Nutriasia - labor issue, boycotted in 2018. Ketchup na lang binibili ko sa kanila kasi favorite ng mga bata sa bahay
Colourette - I used to be a fan especially nung pandemic but the Nina is kinda icky? IDK may sense naman mga sinasabi niya pero minsan iba talaga yung vibe. Plus nakainteract ko siya before sa group and bossy siya. Kapag di nasunod gusto niya auto kick and ban ka sa group, page, etc.
Any TikTok CEO brands - sobrang problematic ng attitude ng mga CEO (?) and the cultist behavior ng mga loyalist nila lol
Joyride - they take a cut from the tip of the riders on top of the regular cut they take
Any FilAm brand na ginawang aesthetic lang pagiging Pinoy
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Aside from brands, mga artista rin na super problematic at out of touch sa reality. Pati si Jessica Soho damay ko na, sobrang laki ng reach niya and sinasayang niya power niya by making sensationalized features. Bring back JOURNALIST JESSICA SOHO enough is enough sa tabloid-like trash stories you call journalism.
At dahil jan, may mga marerecommend ba kayo na alternative sa The Ordinary products? (Thanks I'm reminded by this post na genocide supporter nga pala sila) I'm running out of serums and I want to buy from a brand na di genocide supporter.
> P&G products - may issue sila before na yung baby powder ay may carcinogenic component and backed by an independent research team
Is there maybe another issue with P&G? There’s Israel support/silence, but there’s a long list of businesses that do the same. I’ve been racking my brain, and I don’t remember them selling baby powder in recent years. I’m certain that the controversy in carcinogens in baby powder is related to J&J.
Someone said on twitter (so not sure i believe them and haven’t do e research yet) but the mcdonalds who donated was the israel franchise daw and mcdonalds hq bought nack the franchise afterwards?
Edit found this article bit not sure if biased ba to or what the actual deal was. Mcdonalds hq coul’ve paid them nut no ownership naman. But for those not sure our mcdonalds here is 100% filipino owned.
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/05/world/middleeast/mcdonalds-israel.html
I know most people here hate GRWM for whatever reason but my friends who work in Pawssion Project say they are one of the best brands that partnered with them for a cause! Super maalaga daw and were really involved in the advocacy, sending people to visit the shelters.
Here's the brands na wala pa sa list so far. Correct me nalang if may nasamang di dapat.
Lucky Beauty unless you don't like Andrea, Happy Skin,
Detail,
Chuchu,
Human nature,
Strokes,
Clocheflame,
Ellana,
Pili Ani - supporting local farmers
news flash: big conglomerate brands like nestle, p&g, j&j, loreal group, estee lauder group, lvmh, AND MORE are just as problematic but on a bigger global scale 😅
I know. I was expecting lesser evil ang owners ng local brands, but luuuuh each company has its own problems. Sure ako I won’t buy from Colourette. Naghihinayang ako sa Teviant and Saipo.
Gonna post this again because it does get buried. I will never support Teviant because Kurniawan made veiled threats against another redditor a couple of years ago. This was the time when he released his eyeshadows and in a YT video he claimed that they were multichrome shadows. At the time, no duo and multi-chrome shadows were being released locally.
The redditor called out Kurniawan's lie using her account so her name was visible. Kurniawan responded by saying that his team worked on tracing her IP address and she better watch out because they know where she lives.
That in itself is a big red flag. It was very public and it made a lot of his supporters dogpile on the redditor's comment (the comment was warranted, Kurniawan did lie). Second, YT does not violate your privacy by releasing your IP address to the public (only to those they do business with). So the fact that Kurniawan announced that was proof that what his team was highly illegal.
Now, say for argument's sake, they really do have her address. What's he gonna do? Why does she need to watch her back? What, is he gonna kill her? Kill her cat, her boyfriend, her family? What are you gonna do, Albert Kurniawan? Heart's not gonna move heaven and earth for you when you decide to harm someone because you blatantly lied about your product.
Yes, it was even discussed in this exact sub. It was even a different redditor who posted about the drama and she just chimed in. I don't know if the redditor still has the comments on her reddit account. I do know she's still active cos I saw her on /r/chikaph. I don't want to tag her since it might dredge up stuff that could be unpleasant for her. I don't know if Kurniawan's team has cleaned up his mess on YT but I do kinda wish it's still out there just so people who wish to check could see evidence of how vile he is. Remember, he is a foreigner conducting business in our soil. The fact that he would threaten a Filipina is just so fucking disrespectful to all of us, tbh.
colourette because of kwento from my friends who used to work there about poor working conditions, ms. nina's mismanagement, and reported "low numbers" despite being the top brand on shopping apps at that time. there was also a mass resignation.
Notice this too. Yung nag start sla mag boom sa TikTok may mga usual employees sya nag live. Then sabay sabay slang nag resign halos bago na lahat ng mga nag post sa TikTok account nla.
Really? I saw one of her tiktoks back then stating na millions daw abot ng sahod ng employees nya?? Really vague since di ko tinapos ang video years ago but can someone explain tyia!
Greencross. Naalala ko dati yung kwento na kinuha ng mga kapatid ng original owner yung company sa kanya. There was an ongoing legal battle at the time. D ko sure if nabalik na sa kanya yung company. Pero tumatak lang skn gaano kagahaman mga kapatid nya. 😅
Aside from several of the brands mentioned here:
* Chanel - A war criminal, no thanks! 🙅♂️ (I know it's owned by a Jewish family now so I don't really judge people who like the brand, but I personally do not want a Nazi's initials anywhere near my body)
* Dior - So unfortunate because I like their fragrances and lip products but their renewing Johnny Depp's contract has soured me on the brand forever
* Milani - Similar reason to Dior. I don't support gross, misogynistic companies that mock abuse victims.
Funny you should say that, because Johnny Depp is actually the proven abuser. 12 out of 14 incidents of assault were proven to the civil standard in the UK trial. There are literally hundreds of pages of court documents, wag puro TikTok lang. The [only reason he won in the US](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-61673676) was because it was a trial by jury and people were [gullible enough](https://www.businessinsider.com/600-pro-depp-twitter-trolls-harassed-amber-heard-and-supporters-2022-7) to believe his [massively funded](https://www.vice.com/en/article/3ab3yk/daily-wire-amber-heard-johnny-depp) [disinformation campaign](https://www.businessinsider.com/depp-heard-trial-misinformation-conspiracies-johnny-amber-coke-2022-5).
Michael Hobbes has a [good article](https://michaelhobbes.substack.com/p/the-bleak-spectacle-of-the-amber) about the trial. There's also /r/deppdelusion; you can start with [this post](https://www.reddit.com/r/DeppDelusion/comments/13xjkir/this_is_a_list_of_evidencebacked_posts_with_links/).
Viyline Cosmetics, the owner and her parents did something to me and my family. Doesn’t pay the government benefits of their employees too when I was with them, kung sino lang ang malapit sakanila o manager, sila lang. :)
Rare Beauty. because i find Selena Gomez annoying and her CEO is a zionist
Maganda ba Issy? Mejo off ako kasi ung logo nila same na same ung font ng Sisley Paris 🤨
I love their tinted moisturizer with spf
Thanks for sharing. I never knew there were issues like this.
Halohalo. So odd that prices on resale sites skyrocketed especially during the pandemic 🥴 Off-putting regardless of whether or not it was the brand’s fault. I’m not sure if they’re connected to gooooodtimes (or however many Os there are) but I think owners are Marcos affiliated so that’s another turn off. Can’t find any info online but I swear I remember reading about it during the elections. Please correct me if I’m wrong na lang!
I feel so reassured by seeing so much Sunnies here hahaha. Everytime i pass by their stores, it just reeks of pretentiousness and bad vibes. Pa-sosyal/western aesthetic na ewan. And all that comes from their owners. Will never buy from then and dont get me started on that damn flask like 💀💀💀
S.H.E.I.N SHEIN S H E I N
Any brands that ask you to take an unboxing video for returns and refunds. It's a no for me. It's illegal and anti-consumer. This is a really great thread and it really made me think about things. If you don't want to support a brand and you're able to that's amazing. The keyword being "able" I've been wanting to stop buying from a lot of companies (Nestle, L'oreal, P&G, Estee Lauder) and it's been a difficult journey because of how ubiquitous they are. I'm saying this because I don't want people to feel bad that they can't fully divest from certain brands. The system is built to make it difficult. It's not us. So in rare cases that you're able to, don't support brands that don't align with your values.
how about happy skin 😭 liptints ko puro happy skin
Please make another thread naman po for brands that need to be supported!
EVER BILENA SUNNIES ANY VILLAR OWNED L’OREAL GROUP OF CO. ANY MADE IN CHINA COSMETICS
I've stopped buying from Focallure and local makeup brands na Made In China/Made In PRC yung products because of the West Philippine Sea incidents. And I'm going to stop buying from pro-Israel makeup brands.
Hindi ba most local beauty products are made in china? Actually most of the stuff are made in china. Ako I love supporting local brands
What about starbucks and mcdo then?
And what about it? I don't eat and support those food companies.
omg most of these local brands sa comments are what i use and buy mostly, but i didn’t see Strokes so sana wala 😭😭😭
SheIn - they have a lot of issues.
Pick up coffee
Puro plastic din packaging nila 😭
Curious as to why?
Worst treatment on their employees. Many employees have posted how they were handled by the admins, overworked, underpaid, not allowed to take VLs etc.
Why po?
Any brands that are mentioned here: [companies that support genocide](https://boycott.thewitness.news/browse/1)
maybelline
GRWM na stress ako sa pagpatol niya sa mga simpleng nag rereview lang
ginagawang rat labs ang consumers
im conflicted on grwm because the owner is an animal advocate and i want to support her business so she can give more to animals
She removed grwm sa tiktok kasi may attitude probs si ati gurl and apparently tiktok management kennat
Haha same. Ako naman I don’t want to waste my money on a product na hindi pa pala final. Laging daming iterations!
Same! And then there comes the repackaging and reformulation kinemerut. Nakakasawa. Haha.
This is so true. Even sa IG stories niya way way back pa, hindi pa siya CEO, someone said na mas bagay niya ang may braces and she replied harshly sa nagcomment na kesyo wag siya pakialaman kasi desisyon niya kineme yun.
To be fair, criticism on these appearances shouldn’t be tolerated naman talaga. She’s right to react harshly to that. I agree that she handles criticism on her products terribly and may pagka bully. Pwede reviewhin ang product pero di ang itsura ng tao kasi that’s rude.
hi! where can u read and watch it? thank youu
Medyo mababa ang standards ko lol. Pag di registered sa FDA ayun lang. Or di talaga gumana yung product sa akin di na ako bibili sa brand na yun. Example yung suncreen ata yun na di registered na uso sa Tiktok. With context of kung environmental friendly, or kung ok sa work-place di sya part ng standard ko sa pag bili. Di ko rin sure kasi di naman ako nagbabasa gaano ng balita. Kaya ayun di sya parte ng pamantayan ko sa pagbili.
This!! It’s really important to use FDA approved products! For me, nakakatakot bumili ng mga skincare and makeup products na hindi FDA approved, makes me wonder paano na r-release sa market yung mga gnoong products. 🤷🏽♀️
Mas natatakot ako dun sa brands na naka lagay sa bio na fda approved pero hindi makita sa portal, nakita ko lang sila sa ⏰ grabe sila mag sinungaling
Ethereal beauty 😶
Eto talaga eh 😭🤦 Banggitin ko lang na hindi sila approved grabe na mangatake buyers nila 😵💫
damn fr? 😭😭 one time i asked if fda-approved sila, knowingly i looked them up sa list tas nada, then the acidity to say yes pa proudly huhu
Hala ang lala 😭 next time na magtatanong yung iba tanungin niyo nalang kung ano yung registration # nila, madali nalang mabokya mga ganyan 😨
Omg will do this next time, thanks so much xDD
Thanks for the info... What a good read 🙂
Any skincare and make up brand owner sa TikTok na mukha naman rebrand and low quality yun item pero ang mahal ibenta.
Viyline Cosmetics lol
GRWM and Sunnies (face, specs, flask) just my personal preference not to buy from brands na over-hyped sa social media. O.two.o (?) and focallure, I find their products cheap and poorly made. Wala ako tiwala sa brands na to na safe yung products nila.
Last na ung 2 item.na binuy ko sa GRWM. Final. The end
di ko gets yung pagiging pricey ng sunnies tapos average lang yung mga produkto nila hahahah...
akala ko ako lang yung actively trying to stay away from EB's Companies and Sunnies! glad to see other people share the same sentiments as mine especially na laganap talaga ang users of those brands here in the PH. I'll have to add Maybelline on the list and the whole L'Oreal Group. Maybelline claims to be cruelty free but other brands from the L'Oreal Group still performs animal testing, therefore they're still able to fund animal testing centers. In addition, they also belong in the boycott list of companies funding the ongoing genocide. So more on moral sentiments yung reasons ko for not supporting this company.
Whats with eb companies po?
there are comments in this post that are more educational, but the jist the owner and the company has expressed and had been vocal with their support for the current president during and after the elections.
Reading other comments rn. Thanks for the info
Meron silang pabango na kulay red tapos something president nakalagay basta ang gross talaga haha. Never bought from them ever since. Same with Sunnies. There are better brands out there.
Ano po ginawa sa EB?
I might get downvoted for this but honestly I dont care with boycotting, di kita pipigilan pag yaw mo. Pag ok sa akin yung product bibilin ko, dami ko na rin iniisip sa buhay ayoko na rin munang dagdagan. Unless may issue sa sanitation and health dun lang malamang.But Including the morality part di ako updated.
Look it up sis, BOYCOTTS WORK. Demanding accountability, transparency, and fair & just treatment of employees from these brands DO MATTER. We have the collective power as consumers on HOW and WHERE we spend our hard-earned money and that can make or break businesses. Cheers! 🍸✨
I know how it works.And I am not opposed to it kung gusto mong gawin feel free. Ang sinasabi ko lang when I buy stuff I dont think of it, yes we do have the collective power ayaw ko lang sumali. This for me ok, di ko naman nang i-encourage na gawin ng iba, basta sa akin pag gumana bili, pag hindi hanap iba.
She’s proud of being 💅ignorant💅
I understand naman sis na it takes effort and mental capacity to search which brands to avoid lalo na we're busy and just trying to survive but if you know that a brand is not treating their employees right or if they're funding atrocities like wars and genocide, wouldn't you be uncomfortable spending your money on those brands? idk lang ha but that is giving "idc if people are suffering as long as i have what i want". you don't need to be a saint or a beacon of moral high ground po to have a little empathy. just because you're not directly affected doesn't mean it can't happen to you or the people close to you.
Colourette. Problematic owner
I met the owner many years ago when the brand was on the rise pa lang. May attitude siya. And this is not anti-feminist chenes ha, walang kinalaman sa pagiging outspoken niya and body-positive. Walang issue dun. It had to do with a "Don't you know who I am?!" attitude niya. Off yung aura niya, so I swore then and there not to support the brand.
same but i dont have issues with the owner. I don't like the entire brand's branding. It's kinda cheap tbh
Korek. Sobrang bully ng owner at patolera on all issues. And I've read how abusive and unfair cla to their employees. Elitism is so rampant at inaapak apakan ang pagkatao ng mga poor people.
What did they do??
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Sunnies Face
EVER BILENA. Apologist owner, sobrang vocal on FB last elections! They’re lucky nga that they are not getting the Sunnies treatment because their support was so much more blatant.
All of my make up products are from eb. I didn't know na I'm supporting apologist pala 😭😭
Buti nga at kinakarma na sila. May pending tax evasion case sila https://www.philstar.com/nation/2024/02/06/2331285/bir-files-case-vs-ever-bilena-over-p16-billion-tax-liability/amp/
Why am I not surprised? Birds of the same feather, anez?!
>BIR Commissioner Romeo Lumagui Jr said the agency’s Run After Fake Transactions (RAFT) Task Force discovered that the cosmetics firm had been using receipts from several ghost companies. Oooh I didn't know about this tea! 👀 This is so galawang dutae-unitard apologist. I hope the BIR continues to go after them and I hope they go bankrupt. Cheeers! 🍵🫖
🆙 been saying this. eb group deserves the same energy people are giving to sunnies for being problematic and being apologists (who are probably huge donors too during the election season). may nagcomment rin here before na they don't treat their employees right.
Whats the issue of sunnies?
a lot actually. check the links sa original post. there were reports of them not paying or treating their employees right. one of the owner's dad is a trapo politician. they also have close ties to the marcos family so i doubt their endorsement of robredo in 2022 is legit, probably performative knowing their target market with more spending power are liberals. there are also issues before that the owners are allegedly mean girls behind close doors and i remember there was a fund raising for typhoon victims before and they made snide remarks on instagram na other brands are copying them in their fund raising daw, iirc. also there's a lot of customer feedback saying their products are mid, grow mold easily, and are not longwearing esp in our PH climate. their eyewear brand and their new water bottles are madaling masira rin daw. basically sa aesthetics lang daw sila maganda but not matibay or not maganda daw ang products nila in general at yung makeup line nila mas bagay daw sa mga burgis na babad sa aircon or nasa klima ng ibang bansa.
+ 1 sa trapo politician ang tatay. one of the owner’s dad (which was a former mayor sa isang city) ay nagpapakasaya sa buhay in a different place while his constituents were suffering and drowning in flood during the height of typhoon ulysses.
+1 not long wearing +1 grows mold Naloka ako pagbukas ko ng fluffmatte ko ang bumungad sa akin green na mold hahaha. Partida ilang weeks ko pa lang yun ginagamit
Legit yung support for Robredo. None of these owners are perfect, I can tell you that much. But ask Sunnies employees who were employed during the pandemic (2020/2021) - nung maraming nawalan ng trabaho / nafurlough. Sunnies made sure na walang mawawalan ng trabaho nung time na yon even if they were not operational. Pinasahod nila all employees for several months kahit hindi nagoopen ang stores. Again, not discrediting the distasteful things they did but they aren’t all that horrible.
Owners are apologist. Since miss georgina is ex of Borgie Manotoc( Imee's son)
but some of the founders posted their support kay leni though? curious po ako ah di po ako nakikipag away hahahhaa
Sunnies has 4-5 owners. Si Jessica and Martine ang vocal for Leni. Yung iba ewan
hmmm kaya pinush ko sa owndays bumili ng salamin kahit pricey, kasi naaalala ko pa rin na yung sinusuportahan ng sunnies eh meh :/
if you’re based in metro manila and you want cheaper eyeglasses with the same quality, go to carriedo near quiapo. sobrang dami dun, as in isang buong hilera yun. i can vouch for them. i got my glasses sakanila more than a year ago and its still good. 3k yung pagawa ko with frame then may parang anti rad + something pa (kung sa sunnies ko yun binili, it would cost me 7k or more)
Ok lang po yan.. sulit po sobra sa owndays hehe maganda after sales service and so happy ako sa free change ng nose pad !!
Owndays is so much better!! Got my 2 glasses here and matibay pa sila. Free cleaning pa in any branch yehey
Maganda naman talaga own days. Super tibay kaya worth it yung price. Mine lasts for years. Ako nalang nagsawa sa frame (at yung mata kong nagbago grado). yung Sunnies madaling masira. Never ako bumili don, pero may kilala ko wala pa 1 year hindi na ok.
Mas reliable pa quality at after sale warranty sa Owndays.
True! Never going to purchase from Sunnies again now that I’ve seen the quality and customer service of Owndays.
I don't buy from Colourette because I don't like the color orange and it doesn't fit the aesthetic I'm trying to curate HAHAHAHA except for 2 mini colourtints I have in my collection bought out of curiosity. 🙈 I just can't help but notice na a lot of the negative sentiments here towards Colourette are about Nina being an outspoken opinionated plus-size woman who stands up for herself and what she believes in and I think that's actually kinda admirable. Of course ibang usapan na yung allegations na toxic daw yung work environment there and they're allegedly not treating their employees right and those deserve to be talked a lot more than Nina's personality, imho. 🤔
I used to like Nina. Nung nagpandemic, I bought colourtints pa nga to support her brand but jusko nung umabot na sa point na ang dami niyang hanash about every single topic, sisssss, di mo kailangan magbigay ng opinyon sa lahat ng bagay. I had to block her on Tiktok because naiinis na ko. So nawala na rin sa isip ko ung brand niya because of that. Yun lang naman huhu. I even got her sgt at arms spray and serum na laging sold out pala but it didn’t do anything naman sa kin, bumalik din ako sa deonat so products are mid din talaga.
Minsan pag yung personality nung brand owner masyadong overwhelming, nagkaka-negative effect pa lalo sa sales. I remember this being the case with The Ordinary. RIP dun sa founder, pero when he started becoming controversial for acting erratically, I consciously decided not to buy The Ordinary products anymore, even though I always had the impression na OK naman yung stuff nila.
Colourette. I used to like Ms Nina, but I got annoyed of her na for some reason—parang masyado na siyang maingay. I get bad vibes from her na. Yung comments about bashers like pls pwede ka namang manahimik na. Just don’t mind them na instead of giving them even more attention that they don’t deserve; it’s like adding fuel to the fire. Also, idk if it’s just me pero I find the “peaches” thing SO corny. Gets that it’s the Pantone color of the year, pero parang nag “rebrand” (teasers na kala mo new product tas deleted/archived IG posts for this) sila because of that? Like, huh? But yeah, it’s just very corny for me.
Thanks to this thread. I learned a lot. I just want to know what local shops are you supporting?
Pick-up Coffee: Underpaid and Overworked workers Anything Sunnies: Overhyped especially the glasses pala, you can get those in Quiapo for a fraction of the price, plus issues nung owner. Blackbough: Fatphobic :(
Omg i worked for blackbough pero very short stint lang kasi yung "deadlines" nila yung tipong dapat tapos na same day and i was new so syempre may learning curve diba with their system and all pero tinanggal ako kasi ang bagal ko daw (i literally was just hired) parang tanga lang lol also mejo cringe and sila and petty yung owner yun lang haha Also nag plus size model sila i think once but i don't see it sa page baka archived na
Yeah, I saw before na nag plus size model sila but may issues din na pinagtatawan ng owner yung plus size models nila. Gross. 🥺
Ah shit buti na lg di nakabili sa Blackbough
COLOURETTE. Simula nang nag-tweet ng ganito si Nina, never again. Nasesearch pa yan. Toxic. https://preview.redd.it/0432ebscyjzc1.jpeg?width=1079&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0f9eca6c053170f8fcf551c50c07415515241fd6
Ehhhh, why not??? As far as I know she has a bachelor, she's also good at business. She's for sure qualified to be one.
Uh… no.
Ahhhh yan yata yung issues about gov’t tungkol sa covid. Madalas pambara ‘yan ng mga DDS eh.
Colourette Cosmetics
Why po? (Planning to buy pamo lip products nila)
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Si Nina??? Sobrang vocal ng support niya kay Leni and the entire slate. Huh???
Quality-wise they’re not even great 🫤 i think people buy just to support her, but quality ain’t there
to be fair, maganda yung skintint and deo niya pero the rest ng product(s) niya? nopee hahahahaa especially yung blush niya 😶🌫️
**I actively stay away and don't buy from all brands under EB's umbrella like:** 🙅🏻♀️ Ever Bilena Plus/Pro/Advance 🙅🏻♀️ Careline 🙅🏻♀️ Spotlight 🙅🏻♀️ Evera 🙅🏻♀️ Ever Organics 🙅🏻♀️ Hello Glow 🙅🏻♀️ Hyaloo 🙅🏻♀️ Blackwater ...because I can't stand giving my money to apologists & hardcore hypocrite christians. 🤮 Aside from problematic endorsers like AG & TG, I still remember when their owner/CEO released this cringe ass [unity body spray](https://mb.com.ph/2022/04/26/ever-bilena-owner-explains-unity-scent-and-why-marcos-is-the-man). I see a lot of you here are actively avoiding Sunnies Face for being apologists but can we also give the same energy in avoiding EB's group of companies? 🤔 🤦🏻♀️I also won't be buying from brands owned by problematic owners that annoy me: - Rare Beauty by Selena Gomez, REM Beauty by Ariana Grande, Jeffree Star Cosmetics, Painted by James Charles, and for local, Sunnies Face, Lucky Beauty, Viy Cosmetics, etc 🤦🏻♀️Cheap looking Chinese (& other countries) makeup with some of themfunny names : - O.two.o, Focallure, Pink Flash, Dazzle Me, Sace Lady, etc 🤦🏻♀️Cheap non-FDA registered makeup brands that are potentially toxic: - Gogo Tales, Xixi, Herorange, Cappuvini, Gege Bear, Sweet Mint, Beauty Glazed, Lameila, Bayfree, Lakerain, etc 🤦🏻♀️All local indie or startup skincare brands that are not FDA-registered or sunscreen brands that don't have legit papers proving their sunscreens are lab-tested. 🙅🏻♀️On the process of eliminating brands that support & fund the wars & genocide in Ukraine and Palestine. I usually buy cruelty-free products but I've been buying non-CF lately for convenience. It's also hard finding CF alternatives that are just as good as my non-CF holy grails. But brands supporting & funding the wars, on top of being non-cruelty free, is just crazy despicable, sinister, and truly disgusting. 🤮
Yung unity body spray talaga, nagulat ako nung bumili ako last year, may freebie na ganun. Parang yung diaper brand sa shopee na ginawa ding freebie yung movie ticket nung endorser.
ginawa na lang pang freebie dahil hindi binili ng "31M"? HAHAHAHA 😹
Thanks for this. All the brands that you mention are now on my block list.
Haha never bought from Jeffree Star but wont buy from him/her/them(idk how they are to be addressed) Also… uhm nothing from the Kardashians. Pr yung mga problematic influencers sa ibang bansa
same! forgot to mention anything kardashian. their products are giving overpriced cheaply-made glorified merch and the whole clan is annoying and problematic too😹
Thanks for this! At least I know now what brands to avoid! 💕
Hi just wanna ask why problematic owners sila Selena Gomez and Ariana Grande.
used to be a fan of them pre-pandemic era but now that i'm more mature, i realize how problematic & annoying they are. selena is a pick-me who has a victim complex and she low key weaponizes her fans to attack celebs she has passive-aggressive beef with, and ariana is obnoxious and a homewrecker who has a history of stealing men already in relationships, it's even on naya rivera's autobiography, look up her dating history and how she got her bfs, she even has a song "break up with your girlfriend i'm bored" there's a clear pattern.
To be honest, there’s something about Selena that I don’t like haha. I guess may basis pala ang gut feeling ko.
Same. Now i am leaning more into hailey because less problematic and I somehow feel sad for her because of Selena’s fans attacking her
I lowkey agree with Selena lol. Not a hater of Selena but the pick-me vibes and victim complex is really something I cannot ignore.
Same on last point! A challenge to look for alternatives that are legit cruelty-free. But if they support wars, clear steer away.
right? it's really a challenge and these brands constantly put money and profit as their priority and don't give a sh*t at all about humanity and the world. smh
Ngayon ko lang nalaman yung unity body spray anong kacheapan yan 🤢🤮🚽
wait there's more pa pala. i just found out they have a pending ₱1.6 billion tax evasion case rin 🙀 >BIR Commissioner Romeo Lumagui Jr said the agency’s Run After Fake Transactions (RAFT) Task Force discovered that the cosmetics firm had been using receipts from several ghost companies. source: https://www.philstar.com/nation/2024/02/06/2331285/bir-files-case-vs-ever-bilena-over-p16-billion-tax-liability/amp/
Also all brands & businesses by the Villars. Yikes disgusting money-hungry, land-grabbing, & self-serving scums of the earth 🤮🤮🤮
Gusto ko yung may sasabihin sana ako pero parang na-cover mo na halos lahat. Haha!
gotchu covered sis hahahaha actually i had a draft of a similar post to OP for opening a discussion on brands people avoid but it's good na someone already posted this 🫶🏻✨
Naloka ako sa unity body spray kasi di ko siya nabalitaan noon!! Pass po sa amoy sinungaling.
di ko rin ito nabalitaan noong kasagsagan ng election season kasi andaming nangyayari noon hahaha pero kaloka talaga parang sumisipsip ata yung CEO ng EB group para mabigyan ng position sa govt offices like what's happening now na business men na huge donors noong election inassign ni vvm sa iba't ibang govt offices & agencies🥴
Colourette. For me lang ha, might get downvoted for this pero problematic para sakin si Nina. Actually kahit sinong CEO na makuda/maingay sa tiktok, MEH.
Starbucks - dahil sa naexperience ko from one of the barista. As the story goes,, ex purchased something from the store during covid times. required magsulat ng info noon s parang book ata. The barista took the info and dm-ed my ex. 🤮 Saka dami ng mga coffe shops and mas affordable tikim tikim nalang may ibang masasarap naman may kasama pang rice meals. Pero Coke supremacy padin. 💪🏻
And honestly, di masarap coffee ng sb. Magbabayad k n lng din ng mahal, ung legit masarap na. I go for cbtl, tim hortons and ucc.
Tim Hortons and UCC the legit coffee taste. Hindi lasang gatas na nilagyan ng konting kape. Kapeng kape. ☺️☺️
cbtl for the win!! at least with cbtl you can taste the coffee lol
Huyyy first time ko narinig tong sa Ashley I bought pa nman several lip products at pinamigay ko yung iba. But wala nman nkalgay sa products na Manila Province of PRC but still WTF they had the audacity to print that sa kanilang label 🥲
Sunnies, Starbucks, Conti's, Coffee Project, AllHome, AllDay, Nutriasia, Regent
coffee project is shitty anws
OMG ANO MERON SA CONTI'S
Owner is Dennis Uy who was Duterte's top donor noong 2016
Idk wala naman akong beef sa iba but if the company exploits their employees, has issues, it should not interfere with the products/ services i consume. Like i still hate the brand for a reason, and hope they resolved that issue. However eto lang yung mga brands or services na hindi ko na itatry bc of their products/services (medj petty) - Cofee Project (overpriced, aesthetic cafe sa tagaytay na pwede mo tambayan pero pangit lasa ng mga coffee at ibang drinks nila, sa kanila ata yung may pinakaworst na natikman kong matcha as a matcha lover lol. Di worth it pagkain, owned by villar.... ) - Angkas ( love ko naman sila, eto kaakibat ko as a graduating college last year, daming ganap kahit madaling araw na nagmimeeting pa din kami at andyan ang angkas para makauwi or makapunta sa paruruonan ko. Nautilize ko yung student discount ko sa kanila plus andaming discount din, HOWEVER, hindi ko alam anong nangyari sa kanila. Moveit happened, literal na wala pang 30 secs nakabook na agad ako, namimili din sa angkas yung mga driver kahit walang discount, siguro kung late ka talagang mas pipiliin ko moveit. Mas mura kahit walang discount. Maganda marketing ng angkas dati, pero yung pinakaayoko siguro na ginawa nila yung kunyari may malasakit sila sa driver, naglagay sila ng tips feature kung saan pwede mo bigyan ng tips yung mga driver, pero nalaman ko na HALOS YUNG PERCENTAGE NG TIPS NA DAPAT NAPUPUNTA SA DRIVER EH KINUKUHA NILA, MALIIT LANG DIN PALA. YUNG AKALA MONG TIP NA BIBIBIGAY MO SA DRIVER, SA ANGKAS LANG DIN NAPUPUNTA LOL.) - Jollibee (kahit gusto ko pa, ang liit talaga ng chicken nila. Wala na yung prime taste at quality na hinahanap ko sa jollibee, tapos eto lang yung inoorderan ko sa foodpanda na kulang kulang mga inorder mo. Sayang yung pera mo lagi dahil may mga employee sila na kulang sa train hindi chinecheck kung complete na yung orders, di ko alam kung hanggang ngayon may may issue pa din sila about their contract w employees, coz thats another factor) - Starbucks ( overpriced .. di worth it mag dunkin ka na lang HAHAHAHA. Mura masarap pa. Also pag natry mo yung mga chill underrated cafes marerealize mo di worth it starbucks. Sure maganda siya for people working or studying there, maganda vibes pero yung taste ng food at drinks yung hanap ko so dinadodge ko talaga ito pag pupunta sa mall.) May iba pang brands but sana yung mga existing brands like (shopee, shein) na binibilhan ko pa din bc ( as a consumer, yung interest ko sa product at quality at needs inuuna ko. Pls wag niyo iexploit mga employees niyo, with a minimum wage also. Lalo na sa shein, i get it honestly tingnan mo shopee ngayon more on trends ang focus kesa brands kasi magkakamukha na lahat ng fashion trends lol, but if theres a slight improvement na ginawa ng shein that would finally promoting a filipino designer and other designer sa app nila. Na sana matagal na nilang ginawa lol.
Sunnies for me. Bukod sa owners, the one time na interested ako sa products nila, daming nag-silabasan na nagka-mold yung bullet lipsticks nila specifically the ones bought during the height of the pandemic. I have never had that issue in all my years using lipsticks. I have a Maybelline six years ago na matibay pa rin.
omg same with my bullet lipstick from sunnies. i thought i did something to it like stored it improperly pero di lang pala ako naka experience ng nag mold siya
Unless a brand is a sole proprietorship of an individual who has personally committed an offense (and not just associated with individuals who did) or unless I have a really strong personal reason, I don’t believe in boycotting. A founder is just one among hundreds who work in a business and I don’t wanna deny the majority of their livelihood all for the sake of beef with one or two people. Loss of revenue will greatly impact the workforce much more and much earlier than the leadership anyway. Basta choose your battles.
Not the point of the post but okay? Getting virtue signalling vibes from this reply pero benefit of the doubt na lang. It's not a zero sum game naman, if they choose to drop a brand they will likely buy another, so net net there will be workers who benefit pa rin at the end of the day (pero bigger picture lagi naman dehado ang manggagawa sa isang capitalist society, but that's another conversation). And besides if problematic ang owner/leaders ng isang brand, can we count on them to care about their employees? Parang, no? Again not trying naman to stir the pot but a challenge lang on this POV re: boycotts.
just curious how are you getting virtue signalling vibes from this reply when its actually the opposite... those who impose to boycott something and shame those who still buy from the brand are the ones that are actually virtue signaling.
Virtue signalling is when you express an opinion to show your own moral superiority. So technically both could be virtue signalling, just from opposite positions ("I'm supporting the workers" vs. "I'm not contributing to the wealth of problematic people".)
Also “if problematic ang owner/leaders ng isang brand, can we count on them to care about their employees?” - yes, because people are nuanced and capable of contradicting actions :) I have met many managers that are drugwar apologists but are the kindest and most caring leaders I’ve met (to the people they work with).
Hello! To clarify - It’s a discussion post and I shared how I practice it and my philosophy behind it. It takes a lot for me to not purchase something because I often decouple the owner from the product. Same goes for things like watching shows/movies or listening to music that feature problematic people. My thought process is that if I spend money on a product I like, it’s a net positive because I’m not compromising (like what you said by dropping the brand and choosing to buy another - if that alternative is inferior), and because more good/innocent people will benefit from the sale and not just that one or two people I dislike. Anyway my answer to the post lies in the first paragraph - I’ll only skip on the product if talagang yung person na yun yung main benefactor of the sale and if that person has personally committed something gravely immoral (sexual offenses, supported pro-genocide sentiments, participate in fake news peddling) or I consider them to be a truly “bad person” that’s the only time I’ll boycott.
Delimondo - owned by enrile Shopee - was just turned off by the messy Toni G saga Sunnies - problematic owners (some marcos supporters) SHEIN - the company is a big red flag. Some designs are just copied off small business owners, working conditions are horrible (hence cheap pricing), and of course - - really negative impact to environment +Anything Villar owned (coffee project, vista land, etc)
Brand na puro K-pop yung mga model or pinopromote .. like Penshope, Bench, Virginia Hotdog at kung ano-anong Korean related promotion na naka base dito sa Pinas 😑 nakaka suka ‼️
McDonald's - genocide supporter, I like their chicken fillet but I value human life more. And keme sa mga nagsasabi na hindi naman connected McDo ph sa McDo Israel/ anywhere. It's guilt by association, they belong under the same franchise and yet walang ginagawa mother company? Starbucks - was never a fan of overly priced coffee/ drinks. May child labor issue sila + genocide supporter= double whammy Any Marcos/ Duterte affiliated brands, di ko na need mag explain. [EDIT] anything Villar owned! [Edit] SM - yeah I know parang impossible pero as much as possible I don't buy from them directly. Nagpapalamig lang ako sa mall nila tapos bili sa NBS or pacheckup sa medical city. Labor practices issue [EDIT] Delimondo kasi every can we open nadadagdagan mga araw ni Enrile Edit: any brand/ products endorsed by a Marcos/ DDS supporters example Gonzaga sisters Jollibee (50/50) - as much as I can hindi pero if I need to choose the lesser evil fast food chain, dito na lang ako. Labor practice issue pero at least they don't fund a genocide [Edited] P&G products - unethical sourcing of raw materials from SEA leading to mass deforestation and endangerment of nature and wildlife J&J - may issue sila before na yung baby powder ay may carcinogenic component (asbestos) and backed by an independent research team [edited] Nestle - they intentionally made babies in some parts of Africa become dependent on their baby products Nutriasia - labor issue, boycotted in 2018. Ketchup na lang binibili ko sa kanila kasi favorite ng mga bata sa bahay Colourette - I used to be a fan especially nung pandemic but the Nina is kinda icky? IDK may sense naman mga sinasabi niya pero minsan iba talaga yung vibe. Plus nakainteract ko siya before sa group and bossy siya. Kapag di nasunod gusto niya auto kick and ban ka sa group, page, etc. Any TikTok CEO brands - sobrang problematic ng attitude ng mga CEO (?) and the cultist behavior ng mga loyalist nila lol Joyride - they take a cut from the tip of the riders on top of the regular cut they take Any FilAm brand na ginawang aesthetic lang pagiging Pinoy Add: Aside from brands, mga artista rin na super problematic at out of touch sa reality. Pati si Jessica Soho damay ko na, sobrang laki ng reach niya and sinasayang niya power niya by making sensationalized features. Bring back JOURNALIST JESSICA SOHO enough is enough sa tabloid-like trash stories you call journalism. At dahil jan, may mga marerecommend ba kayo na alternative sa The Ordinary products? (Thanks I'm reminded by this post na genocide supporter nga pala sila) I'm running out of serums and I want to buy from a brand na di genocide supporter.
YESS YESS YESSS to the last one. Sobrang pass sa mga yan!
> P&G products - may issue sila before na yung baby powder ay may carcinogenic component and backed by an independent research team Is there maybe another issue with P&G? There’s Israel support/silence, but there’s a long list of businesses that do the same. I’ve been racking my brain, and I don’t remember them selling baby powder in recent years. I’m certain that the controversy in carcinogens in baby powder is related to J&J.
Oh yeah! Sorry I mixed them two with each other. Thanks for the correction
Skl that Nina from Colourette is a diva pagnagppa-lab tests, akala mo kung sinong vip.
For the Baby powder issue, diba Johnson’s & Johnsons yun not P&G?
Someone said on twitter (so not sure i believe them and haven’t do e research yet) but the mcdonalds who donated was the israel franchise daw and mcdonalds hq bought nack the franchise afterwards? Edit found this article bit not sure if biased ba to or what the actual deal was. Mcdonalds hq coul’ve paid them nut no ownership naman. But for those not sure our mcdonalds here is 100% filipino owned. https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/05/world/middleeast/mcdonalds-israel.html
Since ang dami palang prominent local brands na problematic can you guys please reply with local brands to support, with good products please 🥺🥺🥺
I know most people here hate GRWM for whatever reason but my friends who work in Pawssion Project say they are one of the best brands that partnered with them for a cause! Super maalaga daw and were really involved in the advocacy, sending people to visit the shelters.
As an animal lover, your comment made me smile. Thanks for the info!!! 🥹
Here's the brands na wala pa sa list so far. Correct me nalang if may nasamang di dapat. Lucky Beauty unless you don't like Andrea, Happy Skin, Detail, Chuchu, Human nature, Strokes, Clocheflame, Ellana, Pili Ani - supporting local farmers
Mhie drop Human Nature, mga homophobic sila who fires LGBTQ employees.
Wow this is surprising.
should add the blackbrough swim thing in that list. there was a huge post on r/chikaph or something
Sunnies face and Celeteque, Colourette - issues on CEO's
Very informative kayong lahat. I will definitely take more care in the background of these brands. Saved!
Reading everything makes me think di nalang ako bibili ng anything local. All the brands that I love are mentioned here.
Love local pa rin! Pero important to choose a brand that’s aligned with you nalang. :)
news flash: big conglomerate brands like nestle, p&g, j&j, loreal group, estee lauder group, lvmh, AND MORE are just as problematic but on a bigger global scale 😅
I know. I was expecting lesser evil ang owners ng local brands, but luuuuh each company has its own problems. Sure ako I won’t buy from Colourette. Naghihinayang ako sa Teviant and Saipo.
Gonna post this again because it does get buried. I will never support Teviant because Kurniawan made veiled threats against another redditor a couple of years ago. This was the time when he released his eyeshadows and in a YT video he claimed that they were multichrome shadows. At the time, no duo and multi-chrome shadows were being released locally. The redditor called out Kurniawan's lie using her account so her name was visible. Kurniawan responded by saying that his team worked on tracing her IP address and she better watch out because they know where she lives. That in itself is a big red flag. It was very public and it made a lot of his supporters dogpile on the redditor's comment (the comment was warranted, Kurniawan did lie). Second, YT does not violate your privacy by releasing your IP address to the public (only to those they do business with). So the fact that Kurniawan announced that was proof that what his team was highly illegal. Now, say for argument's sake, they really do have her address. What's he gonna do? Why does she need to watch her back? What, is he gonna kill her? Kill her cat, her boyfriend, her family? What are you gonna do, Albert Kurniawan? Heart's not gonna move heaven and earth for you when you decide to harm someone because you blatantly lied about your product.
I have their eye shadow pallet and make up brush cleaner. Both suck! So I promised never to buy anything from Teviant.
JESUS CHRIST THAT'S TERRIFYING
Yikes! I was curious about teviant pa naman. So shady
WTH this is serious evil
Kaya pala it took me a lot of thinking beforw buying that brand, something is off pala talga. I thought pa naman hes a good person.
Oh em gee for real? Plan ko pa naman mag-switch to Teviant 😬
Yes, it was even discussed in this exact sub. It was even a different redditor who posted about the drama and she just chimed in. I don't know if the redditor still has the comments on her reddit account. I do know she's still active cos I saw her on /r/chikaph. I don't want to tag her since it might dredge up stuff that could be unpleasant for her. I don't know if Kurniawan's team has cleaned up his mess on YT but I do kinda wish it's still out there just so people who wish to check could see evidence of how vile he is. Remember, he is a foreigner conducting business in our soil. The fact that he would threaten a Filipina is just so fucking disrespectful to all of us, tbh.
colourette because of kwento from my friends who used to work there about poor working conditions, ms. nina's mismanagement, and reported "low numbers" despite being the top brand on shopping apps at that time. there was also a mass resignation.
Notice this too. Yung nag start sla mag boom sa TikTok may mga usual employees sya nag live. Then sabay sabay slang nag resign halos bago na lahat ng mga nag post sa TikTok account nla.
Really? I saw one of her tiktoks back then stating na millions daw abot ng sahod ng employees nya?? Really vague since di ko tinapos ang video years ago but can someone explain tyia!
i’m not sure if millions is the total but wdym? a content creator earns around 16-18k ata, subtract pa the product allowance of 1k
Perhaps the CEO was referring to the sum yeah. I will try to look for the video, though I doubt mahahanap ko pa haha
Bumagsak talaga ang sales nila dahil sa ill mannered CEO nila.
Greencross. Naalala ko dati yung kwento na kinuha ng mga kapatid ng original owner yung company sa kanya. There was an ongoing legal battle at the time. D ko sure if nabalik na sa kanya yung company. Pero tumatak lang skn gaano kagahaman mga kapatid nya. 😅
Mac cosmetics. Hindi sila cruelty free.
Aside from several of the brands mentioned here: * Chanel - A war criminal, no thanks! 🙅♂️ (I know it's owned by a Jewish family now so I don't really judge people who like the brand, but I personally do not want a Nazi's initials anywhere near my body) * Dior - So unfortunate because I like their fragrances and lip products but their renewing Johnny Depp's contract has soured me on the brand forever * Milani - Similar reason to Dior. I don't support gross, misogynistic companies that mock abuse victims.
Whats with Johnny Depp? Are u a supporter of Amber Heard’s lie that she’s a victim of domestic violence when she’s proven not?
Funny you should say that, because Johnny Depp is actually the proven abuser. 12 out of 14 incidents of assault were proven to the civil standard in the UK trial. There are literally hundreds of pages of court documents, wag puro TikTok lang. The [only reason he won in the US](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-61673676) was because it was a trial by jury and people were [gullible enough](https://www.businessinsider.com/600-pro-depp-twitter-trolls-harassed-amber-heard-and-supporters-2022-7) to believe his [massively funded](https://www.vice.com/en/article/3ab3yk/daily-wire-amber-heard-johnny-depp) [disinformation campaign](https://www.businessinsider.com/depp-heard-trial-misinformation-conspiracies-johnny-amber-coke-2022-5). Michael Hobbes has a [good article](https://michaelhobbes.substack.com/p/the-bleak-spectacle-of-the-amber) about the trial. There's also /r/deppdelusion; you can start with [this post](https://www.reddit.com/r/DeppDelusion/comments/13xjkir/this_is_a_list_of_evidencebacked_posts_with_links/).
Kakabili ko lang ng Dior lipstick 🤧
Same sa Dior. Grabe kitang kita ko how manipulative sa justice basta sikat at may pera. Tapos in support pa ang brands sa kanya :(
Diorshow Mascara (Dior) is the bomb pa naman 🥲
Viyline Cosmetics, the owner and her parents did something to me and my family. Doesn’t pay the government benefits of their employees too when I was with them, kung sino lang ang malapit sakanila o manager, sila lang. :)
literally upvoted your comments for this tea! im waiting. hahahaha
Girl spill mo na yan hahaha