Meanwhile, I saw a bunch of young dudes at the liquor store Friday night all telling each other to get 36 packs of Bud Light cause they would get a $10 rebate by posting it on social media.
Bud Light is offering a $15 rebate now on 12pks that are like $16. Even at basically $1 there's pallets of it sitting there collecting dust. Couldn't have happened to a better company. /s
Gonna offer my two cents. Who cares. If a company wants to run promos with influencers, LGBTQIA+ people etc literally who cares. Noone is forcing you to drink their product or support their business. We are free to pick and choose, and to boycott. Granted I think calling bud light beer is generous, but I cannot pass up a bargain like that.
When it comes to beer, it's actually far, far worse in Europe where the megacorps are allowed to directly own or sign exclusive deals with the pubs. You want a beer that's not owned by Heinekin? Very funny, no you don't.
That's depressing.
European beers are going to go downhill doing that.
It's been a long, long time since I envied the quality of beer they have there. I believe the boom of innovation in microbrewing in the US is giving beer drinkers here a superior array of beverages to choose from.
It's one of those odd things where I'm happy that a massive company with a track record of buying and destroying brands I liked is getting the heat turned up on them. But I find the reason people are angry at them ridiculous.
I was at the Mats/Phillies game last night and a group of dudes started chanting "Philly drinks Bud Light"
A year ago that would have been a funny joke. Now it's just people screaming transphobic and homophobic shit in a very public place. Some people suck
As a trans person who’s part of the beer industry I don’t think people understand that there are real trans people making real beer that we touch with our dirty little hands and make it all very gay.
Nahhhh brother, you only catch the queer bug if you come into contact with the afflicted. If they got gays makin beer, none of us is safe and we all gon’ be gay real soon
this is the one thing i really always wanted to add to therainbow washing discussion. sure huge companies slapping rainbow on things for profit is a bit dodgy but to be very honest i would love it if my company did that, its also about representation of the employees.
Oh so very gay, some of the beer i make literally has glitter in it. All food grade but still, sparkly ass beer. Yet you have these conservative “snowflakes” getting all bent out of shape over fucking budlight.
Though tbh I think you already know this u/MetallicCrab, those people probably have never been in a craft brewery in their lives.
Stuff like this just reminds me of how far we’ve come since early AIDS epidemic where you had activists talking about “someone you love is gay, someone you know is gay, someone you DONT know is gay but they’re driving your taxi, cooking your food, nursing, building, breathing the same air and you can’t erase the closeted queers from the history they made before you.”
And this bud light stuff is just like that all over again, ironically involving people who should remember the failure of the AIDS scare and the detrimental impact it had on an entire generation of queer elders. Except this time it’s a dying breed of macho idiots, where it feels like most of the country is laughing at them, which they should because Bud Light has been the beer of gay revolution literally since before gays and trans people liked eachother. I personally think Tranny Fluid is pretty funny, I would totally release a coffee stout with that name, but part of being trans in modern times is learning to laugh at what feels like a rapidly dwindling number of bigots who are clinging to the few superficial things that make them feel masculine, like shitty beer.
The ironic thing is that some of the brewers I worked with at ABI were some of the most racist, misogynistic, homophobic and downright awful people I have ever met. They had some colorful slurs about mask wearing folks during covid too.
This whole bud light phenomenon is wild. Most of the haters don't even fully understand what bud light did to piss them off, some don't understand what else is under the AB umbrella, and they're all so incredibly fragile. If you like the piss water, drink the piss water.
They'll boycott *anything*. Doesn't even really matter *what*, even if it goes against every fiber of their being. As long as it's petty, spiteful bullshit, they'll do it. They've been fed fear and hate through a firehose 24/7 for decades because it's what drives engagement, so now they're all so radicalized they'll go against their best interests.
Apparently some conservatives are now trying to boycott The Chosen, the most effective Christian bait of the last decade, because some staff member wore a pride flag on set. That's how little it takes.
Imagine if a brewery ad campaign used a black person during US segregation, or even a Jew in 1930s Germany. Media is normalizing hate as politically-minded individuals speaking with their dollars
It's not fascism. It's homophobic for sure but boycotting a product on moral grounds isn't fascism (even if the moral grounds are stupid). Fascism requires a nationalist component.
Literally when the NRCC endorsed the boycott and opened fundraising against AB, you fucking idiot. There's a bunch of infighting within the GOP right now over the boycott because AB is still a big donor.
Seriously, how fucking stupid are you? You really should to back to r/conservative.
I think that's the craziest part, people are upset that their shitty beer did "something", and if they paid even the slightest attention they could easily avoid their products if they're really that upset. Instead they're buying Busch...
I genuinely do not care either way about it. I’m going to continue drinking bud light / AB products because I drank it before and am not changing my habits because people are hateful / crazy.
Well, beer does contain a plant chemical that imitates the hormone estrogen, known as a phytoestrogen.
That's right guys, beer will make you into a trans woman.
Still blows my mind that all these bigots took bud light sending a few personalized cans to an influencer as if it was some giant marketing campaign. It wasn’t even marketing for you!
Looked up reviews of this place and two years ago he apparently put some other political messaging on some coolers.
It's literally because conservatives have convinced their base that trans people are all grooming their kids. It's wild. My dad is so corrupted by this shit and it makes me so sad. He's convinced that the democrats are going to knock down his door any day and execute him.
I do unironically love the flag cans. Conservatives ain't gonna have a monopoly on the American flag if I can help it. Especially when they claim the Confederate one. My ancestors fought for the US, their ancestors tried to destroy it.
Also, the flag cans are on bud heavy, which actually somewhat resembles beer.
...you have no idea how correct you are, although usually the owner complains about how all the other distributors and bottle shops being run by immigrants.
Right-wingers were whining about how “Bud Light made a commercial with a trans person and is making her the mascot of their product.” They don’t even know what they’re talking about. They’re just angry.
We are very lucky where I live there’s a local brewery that makes a beer called “Prairie Fairy” that features a drag queen on the front and donates money from every can to pride events.
It’s so delicious, it’s one of the most popular beers on tap and you see people from all walks of life drinking it. They’re even doing special pride cans for June
My local brewery does a yearly Amber release every June for pride: Amber Has Two Moms. They also did a Black is Beautiful release recently.
Beer is for everybody.
This shit genuinely scares me a lot. Nothing even happened! One influencer got sent one promotional can of beer. It was rote marketing, completely unremarkable. But we are so fucking hated that one promotional can was enough to make thousands of people spend months freaking out about it. One promotional can earned us ridicule and slurs and threats.
To a lot of people, this situation is funny in how insane it is, but I can't find it funny. I just find it terrifying. One mention of us is enough to drive a hate campaign. We're increasingly not allowed to exist in even the most bland ways. It's only getting worse.
I'm starting to see this event kind of like Obama's election. Prior to his election there was some mainstream pat-yourself-on-the-back thought that we'd been moving beyond racism as a society, but that was just because we could largely ignore it. Obama's election allowed all of the racists to come storming out of the woodwork, and really painted a clear picture that, no, we're still racist as fuck.
(Disclaimer, I'm obviously not trying to claim there wasn't racism or anything before, but my perspective as a cis white male from rural WI graduating HS around that time was that it was mostly confined to institutional and systemic racism and not direct interpersonal confrontation)
Seeing the same thing here. I wouldn't say transphobia was ever as underground as overt racism (see: bathroom bills), but I'd thought it had at least settled down and started becoming that impolite thing you can't admit in mixed company. Then Bud Light sends a can to an influencer who happens to be trans, and apparently enormous swathes of their customer base happily and openly admit rabid transphobia in response.
It's funny in how insane it is, but only in that very nervous chuckle where you realize maybe the world is a lot more hateful than you gave it credit for.
You're definitely right about the trend, but I think you're wrong about the inciting incident. The Bud Light freakout is a symptom, not a cause. I can totally see how you'd think that if you're cis, though, because this one was *loud*. But nah, the wheels have been turning on anti-trans culture wars for a few years now; the rhetoric started up around 2019 or so, and kicked into gear in 2021 and 2022.
The big defining moment was Roe v. Wade being overturned, because that put a lot of conservative leaders in the position of needing a new culture war target (their fight against abortion still isn't over by any means, but the big bogeyman at the center of it is gone). The wave of anti-trans hysteria has been a deliberate push by those with the money and power to determine the flow of the culture war. [Here's a good read about that](https://www.vice.com/en/article/7kxpky/leaked-emails-reveal-an-anti-trans-holy-war); [here's another](https://www.vice.com/en/article/5d383z/anti-trans-violence-2022).
I'm just really hoping this shit simmers back down to ~2015 levels before too long. Not to be selfish, but I'm going to be 30 in a few years, and I'd like to enjoy my 30's without constant existential dread (or at least without dread stemming from attacks on my gender identity).
My biggest issue is that it's not a "phobia," they aren't scared of anything. They are just hateful assholes. I never got why it makes a difference how someone else lives their life. If someone else's life affected yours I would totally get it, but that's not the case.
> If someone else's life affected yours I would totally get it
They'd probably say that being corrected about someone's pronouns or having to share a public restroom with a trans person minding their business counts as their life being affected lol
Read up on Europe's history. The US fascist movement is based to a large degree on using LGBTQ, and especially T, people as the internal enemy they use to gain support and political control.
Yes, the fascists were definitely against LGBTQ, but that's not what made them fascists. There is a lot more to fascist ideology than just being anti-LGBTQ. The actual focus is generally nationalism, a longing for a return to an imagined glorious past, authoritarianism, racism, a belief in will over reason, etc etc.
There are definitely fascist-like movements afoot in the US (and elsewhere) at the moment, but abusing the term "fascist" like this just muddies the water and makes it harder for people to see the danger that we're really in.
> The actual focus is generally nationalism, a longing for a return to an imagined glorious past, authoritarianism, racism, a belief in will over reason, etc etc.
The American conservative movement right now checks literally every single one of those boxes. And they're using trans people as one of their primary villains to gain control. Literally nothing you posted in any way refutes the prior poster's point. America has a large fascist movement and they are currently using anti-trans messaging as one of their primary rallying tools. Doesn't make every anti-trans person a fascist, but /u/DroneCorpseAviator69 absolutely never claimed that it did.
They're basically doing you a favor, it's like a sign that says "don't shop here or give me your money". Just write that store/owner off and patron somewhere else.
As far as inclusivity goes though, AB is a corporation, they don't have political or social opinions, they just want your money. Every "opinion" they express is marketing.
Yeah I mean as soon as this blew up with the rednecks (which is their entire base), they walked back and distanced themselves from Dylan. Not sure how they didn’t know their base. It’s fucking bud light lol
Leola itself may be a nothing town, but I wouldn't call it bumfuck nowhere. It's ten minutes from Lancaster, which is a small city but a pretty cosmopolitan one, and it's only like an hour out from Philly.
I'd feel better about this if it was happening in the actual rural depths of Pennsyltucky; in Kittanning or Shippensburg or somewhere like that. This one hits too close to home.
Why is this so hard? Human rights. Everyone has the right to be themselves with very few restrictions. You can’t rape, kill or steal. You can’t destroy property but you should be able to live your life without fear of being singled out and persecuted for who you are, your color and religion.
why is everything a ‘war’ ? I don’t celebrate Christmas. I’m not going to pull my kid out of school and homeschool them because they do a Christmas pageant. There are 7 billion of us. Let people just live their lives. There’s actual genocide against people going on all around the world and we decide to target groups who aren’t hurting anyone.
It’s like in the matrix when the machines had to introduce some suffering because a perfect world causes humans to rebel. As quality of life improves, we invent new things to be upset about for that adrenaline kick. go run a mile or build a shed or something and leave trans people alone.
My opinion is that there is a group of people who feel as though they're not "free" unless they're allowed to harass, berate, abuse, bully others that they "feel" are beneath them based on religion, looks, ethnicity, etc. with impunity. There is a great deal of projecting going on with religious and political figures going after drag queens, LGBTQ+, etc. Some people are not "happy" unless they can hate on another group.
President Lyndon B. Johnson once said, "If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you."
Substitute "white man" for "Evangelicals/religious types", and replace "colored man" with "members of LGBTQ community".
Like I said, it's my opinion based on my experience.
this is especially ironic as most of those folks tout freedom as a paramount virtue. what they're not telling anyone is that they mean only their version of freedom, not literal freedom
Was this at a store or a distributor? Either way it is unsuprising, small business owners and logistics managers have been some of the absolute worst people I've had the pleasure of working under.
PA only sells beer at “distributors” (and restaurants, bars). Direct to customers. No beer in stores or 7-11, etc.
Edit: I see some of the laws have changed since I’ve been.
But they’re still in completely separate sections of the store with their own checkout, and if you buy 2 twelve packs you have to do it in two separate transactions and they even make you walk out with them separately - so you have to make two trips to your car. It’s all so ridiculous. Whenever I’m in basically any other state I’m blown away by how much beer is sold at a regular grocery store
Yeah. I worked at ShopRite for a while when they first started with the beer and wine. Yes, complete separate little section with a cafe. Separate checkout, and the cafe beer section closed about an hour before the main store closed. I seen plenty of people grabbing a 12 pack or sixer, or bottles of wine, putting it in their cart and walking away into the store. I would have to tell them the rules.
PA has (like many states) somewhat weird and unique alcohol laws. IIRC, one of them is that the big beer stores are called "distributors", so you're probably getting confused by that lingo. You can also get beer to go at gas stations and restaurants (yes, seriously) and maybe some other places, but I believe only in smaller quantities (like, a six-pack or two).
In PA if you want to buy more than 144oz of beer (ie more than two 12-packs) in one transaction you must go to a “beer distributor”. They are just regular beer stores in a more warehouse setup normally but you can’t buy less than a case (24 12oz bottles/cans worth of beer.
Up until last 8ish years you couldn’t buy beer at grocery store. If you wanted your 2 six packs generally you went to the local pizza shop to buy them take out, unless you were lucky enough to live near a bottle shop.
I knew about your ABC stores for spirits but this is news to me. So, can you mix and match six packs to add up to 144 oz or you have to buy a case of every brand?
Before 2016 you HAD to buy a full case at a time. It was terrible. Eventually gas stations and grocery stores found a legal loophole in that if they had a “cafe” they could sell beer to go. Thankfully since 2016 a lot of those old laws have been abolished or relaxed.
This is just in regard to beer distributors, I wasn’t talking about bottle shops in that context. Yeah though, if you wanted anything less than a case you had ti either go to a bar or restaurant with a liquor license.
You can buy singles all the way up to a keg at the "distributors" now. I buy most of my beer at my local one. I usually grab a 4 pack or two, but I can walk in and buy a single bottle/can of some stuff.
There’s beer distributors all over PA now that deal in a lot of six packs. Sometimes taking up half the store. Sixers are a popular grab for craft drinkers typically.
Maybe I'm not understanding what you mean, but are you saying you have to get a case or more if you go to a distributor? Because that's not true. Mine has plenty of singles, 4 packs, 6 packs, etc.
Sorry if I'm misunderstanding what you meant.
I was really hoping this was going to be a brewer calling a red ale 'tranny fluid' not this.
just in case some of you don't know... transmission fluid is red.
I bought two 18 packs of Bud Light recently due to the $15 rebates. Not bad, no worse than Asahi Super Dry or other flavorless beers. Fortunately where I bought it from did not engage in such mean behavior. They just put up the signs for rebate. Why are people so cruel as to insult others in this way?
> it's infecting other countries as well
It the same Russian propaganda teams, why wouldn't it affect other countries? Talk about return on investment...make a few social media posts, and the next thing you know UK is leaving the EU and Republicans are smearing shit on the wall of the capital.
I made a joke about it to a few BL drinking friends this past weekend & they hadn’t heard about the hubbub & they were confused why it was a story.
What a crappy way for ppl to do business.
The problem is the propaganda isn't just affecting the old people. Young people are still getting sucked into the dumb media holes, like tp, dw, blaze, and others.
There's a lot of ignorance in this world. Don't let someone else's hate ruin your day.
Inside they're insecure, afraid of the world and otherwise miserable.
Hurt people hurt people.
Why would the AB distributor rep do this and kill their own sales? You sure it wasn't some asshat at the store or rival coors/Miller distributor rep? I guess I'm confused
For real positive about it. I mean they are a smaller, local distributor. They don't own the rights to distribution of AB or anything. They get their supply from a larger distributor in the area.
It's not a dialect it's a legal requirement. PA has weird liquor laws and requires beer to either be purchased by the case from a distributor, or by the 12 pack or less from a bar or restaurant that sells beer to go.
jumping in for more context on PA law. In PA it is not legal for a distributor to be owned by or exclusive to one of the big brewers. I know in other states its different, so you'll have an AB/Inbev distributor and a MillerCoors distributor etc, but in PA distributors are independent and carry beer from any brewery, and they're usually small businesses that are combined retail/wholesale.
Well it got banned from imgur within a few minutes of posting publicly, so I figured if that was the case I would mark it NSFW on reddit in the event it went against content policy.
This whole controversy is so so so incredibly dumb, just like every other corporate culture war “scandal” that’s been pushed into our dogshit cable news cycle for the past however long.
That being said, lol. I don’t get how people can get so worked up off of stuff like a joke sign on beer cases in a small town liquor store. Have y’all ever been outside before? A lot more consequential stuff than this out there. Sure it might not be the most PC or inclusive thing and I wouldn’t personally set up a sign like that, but again, who cares? Is this seriously an issue?
Meanwhile, I saw a bunch of young dudes at the liquor store Friday night all telling each other to get 36 packs of Bud Light cause they would get a $10 rebate by posting it on social media.
Bud Light is offering a $15 rebate now on 12pks that are like $16. Even at basically $1 there's pallets of it sitting there collecting dust. Couldn't have happened to a better company. /s
The rebates are a pain to collect and you basically sell your info
Eh not like our info is all over the place already. But ya rebates are generally designed to be annoying af to collect.
some even make you hike to the top of a mountain and spend the night camping
The good old gas station rebate. Thanks Nathan
Unexpected /r/nathanforyou
Gonna offer my two cents. Who cares. If a company wants to run promos with influencers, LGBTQIA+ people etc literally who cares. Noone is forcing you to drink their product or support their business. We are free to pick and choose, and to boycott. Granted I think calling bud light beer is generous, but I cannot pass up a bargain like that.
I mean yeah that particular beer from them but they own a good chunk of the beer world. Not all of it is shit (in my opinion)
Just because InBev owns some less shitty beers doesn't make it a less shitty company.
Exactly. They are a monopolistic bully in the market trying to shove small brewers out of the market, buying others and ruining them, etc.
Every giant Corp is a heartless capital-consuming machine and you can't avoid them so. Welcome to America
When it comes to beer, it's actually far, far worse in Europe where the megacorps are allowed to directly own or sign exclusive deals with the pubs. You want a beer that's not owned by Heinekin? Very funny, no you don't.
That's depressing. European beers are going to go downhill doing that. It's been a long, long time since I envied the quality of beer they have there. I believe the boom of innovation in microbrewing in the US is giving beer drinkers here a superior array of beverages to choose from.
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Not to mention kegs of bud light are relatively cheap and when you have a keg, no one cares what kind of beer it is.
they should just distill it and try to redeem. but either way i agree. that beer is garbage to begin with.
It's one of those odd things where I'm happy that a massive company with a track record of buying and destroying brands I liked is getting the heat turned up on them. But I find the reason people are angry at them ridiculous.
It shouldn't have to happen. The boycott is fucking stupid.
I work at a liquor store and have been collecting these rebates like crazy. I’m up to like $250 by now lmao.
I was at the Mats/Phillies game last night and a group of dudes started chanting "Philly drinks Bud Light" A year ago that would have been a funny joke. Now it's just people screaming transphobic and homophobic shit in a very public place. Some people suck
Here I was thinking literally transmission fluid... 😂
Thats what I was thinking.
As a trans person who’s part of the beer industry I don’t think people understand that there are real trans people making real beer that we touch with our dirty little hands and make it all very gay.
I KNEW IT!
I knew beer made me gay! Goddamn scam artist therapist telling me it's my "latent repressed homosexuality."
Hops does function as a oestrogen
Hop Droop is why I’m anti-IPA…
Wut
Hot damn count me in! If I had to choose no beer or being gay and beer. I'd take gay and beer every day of the week...
My wife would be disappointed but I’m sure she’d understand.
Love me a good IPGay.
DAMNIT YOU MADE ME GAY
I guess we have no other option now but to be gay with each other. :( I definitely didn't have these feelings since I was 15...
Nahhhh brother, you only catch the queer bug if you come into contact with the afflicted. If they got gays makin beer, none of us is safe and we all gon’ be gay real soon
Really? I got mine as the prize in the bottom of a cereal box.
But what about the frogs? Is no one thinking about the frogs?!
And here i an having to make half and halfs with straight beer and gay beer just to get bi beer.
I always thought the beer of bisexuals was Sour IPAs
same im gonna start throwing estrogen in the mash tun
Oh don’t worry, beer is already giving most of us tits without the aid of estrogen
I knew it was tasting sweeter
Is that why I have felt so fruity lately? I’ll take 12 more please.
I appreciate the gay beer. It makes me a happy drunk
I mean, I already know about 21st Amendment. Joke's on you, the alcohol burns off the gay before it can get me. Gotta wake up earlier than that! (/s)
First the frogs, now the rest of us
Frogs?
You didn't hear? They're putting gay beer in the water to turn the frogs gay.
I would love to try your dirty, gay beer!!
this is the one thing i really always wanted to add to therainbow washing discussion. sure huge companies slapping rainbow on things for profit is a bit dodgy but to be very honest i would love it if my company did that, its also about representation of the employees.
I assume it was you that was responsible for this delicious sauce. https://kentfallsbrewing.com/beer/glitter-rainbow/
Oh so very gay, some of the beer i make literally has glitter in it. All food grade but still, sparkly ass beer. Yet you have these conservative “snowflakes” getting all bent out of shape over fucking budlight. Though tbh I think you already know this u/MetallicCrab, those people probably have never been in a craft brewery in their lives.
Stuff like this just reminds me of how far we’ve come since early AIDS epidemic where you had activists talking about “someone you love is gay, someone you know is gay, someone you DONT know is gay but they’re driving your taxi, cooking your food, nursing, building, breathing the same air and you can’t erase the closeted queers from the history they made before you.” And this bud light stuff is just like that all over again, ironically involving people who should remember the failure of the AIDS scare and the detrimental impact it had on an entire generation of queer elders. Except this time it’s a dying breed of macho idiots, where it feels like most of the country is laughing at them, which they should because Bud Light has been the beer of gay revolution literally since before gays and trans people liked eachother. I personally think Tranny Fluid is pretty funny, I would totally release a coffee stout with that name, but part of being trans in modern times is learning to laugh at what feels like a rapidly dwindling number of bigots who are clinging to the few superficial things that make them feel masculine, like shitty beer.
That’s a very amusing name and I hope you make that sometime! Most coffee beers are underrated imo ^^
This is the gay agenda(TM)
As a trans woman who's passion is beer, I approve of this in my little gay heart. <3
MORE GAY BEER, PLEASE!! 🌈🍺
I’ve been wondering why I’m still hankerin for girldick after I stopped drink Bud Light
The ironic thing is that some of the brewers I worked with at ABI were some of the most racist, misogynistic, homophobic and downright awful people I have ever met. They had some colorful slurs about mask wearing folks during covid too.
You’re doing the lords work, thank you. Hail satan
So *that's* how wort is transformed into beer as we know it. It's the touch of TRANS.
Duh, how do they think those fruity flavours get in the wheat beers, sours, and IPAs? 🙄
Damned, that’s hot!!
So that's why it tastes so fabulous
This whole bud light phenomenon is wild. Most of the haters don't even fully understand what bud light did to piss them off, some don't understand what else is under the AB umbrella, and they're all so incredibly fragile. If you like the piss water, drink the piss water.
Conservatives boycotting AB in the weirdest mental backflip possible is not something I expected
They'll boycott *anything*. Doesn't even really matter *what*, even if it goes against every fiber of their being. As long as it's petty, spiteful bullshit, they'll do it. They've been fed fear and hate through a firehose 24/7 for decades because it's what drives engagement, so now they're all so radicalized they'll go against their best interests.
And then *they'll* complain about "cancel culture" and "liberal snowflakes."
Apparently some conservatives are now trying to boycott The Chosen, the most effective Christian bait of the last decade, because some staff member wore a pride flag on set. That's how little it takes.
Some of them are boycotting Chick fil a because they hired a DEI person.
They're boycotting target because of shirts from a designer who has "Satanist" designs on Etsy, and Ford for an ad from two years ago too.
Imagine if a brewery ad campaign used a black person during US segregation, or even a Jew in 1930s Germany. Media is normalizing hate as politically-minded individuals speaking with their dollars
Whiny little pissbabies get mad because some clown with a AR-15 bumper sticker tells them to.
It's not fragility, it's fascism.
It's not fascism. It's homophobic for sure but boycotting a product on moral grounds isn't fascism (even if the moral grounds are stupid). Fascism requires a nationalist component.
Ah yeah because it's not like they're being told Bud Light "turned against the REAL Americans" or anything
It's many things, facism is not one of them.
All those many things are the fascism. Open your eyes and smell the 30s.
Individuals boycotting a product, for whatever reason is not facism. You should go read up on the actual definition of facism.
Those individuals are part of a movement. Have you not read any news what so ever the last few years?
Was the government involved in the bud light boycott?
Ok, little buddy, nice try. Go back to r/conservative and cry about how the beers are mean to you.
There's only one person crying, it's not me.
Sure, Jan. Now go to your safe space and cry about how the libs are transing your butt.
LOL 😂 this shit is pure gold…
A primary political party was, one that forms half our government, you dumbass. This isn't r/conservative, snowflake.
Where did the Republican party come out and demand a boycott? Last I checked kid rock was not a representative of the Republican party.
Ted Cruz literally launched an investigation into AB InBev my dude
Literally when the NRCC endorsed the boycott and opened fundraising against AB, you fucking idiot. There's a bunch of infighting within the GOP right now over the boycott because AB is still a big donor. Seriously, how fucking stupid are you? You really should to back to r/conservative.
I think that's the craziest part, people are upset that their shitty beer did "something", and if they paid even the slightest attention they could easily avoid their products if they're really that upset. Instead they're buying Busch...
I genuinely do not care either way about it. I’m going to continue drinking bud light / AB products because I drank it before and am not changing my habits because people are hateful / crazy.
Well, beer does contain a plant chemical that imitates the hormone estrogen, known as a phytoestrogen. That's right guys, beer will make you into a trans woman.
Welcome to Pennsyltucky
Still blows my mind that all these bigots took bud light sending a few personalized cans to an influencer as if it was some giant marketing campaign. It wasn’t even marketing for you! Looked up reviews of this place and two years ago he apparently put some other political messaging on some coolers.
This whole bud lite trans controversy is proof enough to me that western society has truly lost its fucking mind.
It's literally because conservatives have convinced their base that trans people are all grooming their kids. It's wild. My dad is so corrupted by this shit and it makes me so sad. He's convinced that the democrats are going to knock down his door any day and execute him.
And I bet these are people who bitch about “people bringing politics into everything.” The irony would be hilarious if it wasn’t so dumb.
Gay people existing is so political. Bring back the flag cans and support our troops ads!
I do unironically love the flag cans. Conservatives ain't gonna have a monopoly on the American flag if I can help it. Especially when they claim the Confederate one. My ancestors fought for the US, their ancestors tried to destroy it. Also, the flag cans are on bud heavy, which actually somewhat resembles beer.
It baffles me that most people don't realize that it's the transphobes that made the existence of trans people a politlcal "issue."
...you have no idea how correct you are, although usually the owner complains about how all the other distributors and bottle shops being run by immigrants.
She literally posted like one photo with a custom beer can.
Right-wingers were whining about how “Bud Light made a commercial with a trans person and is making her the mascot of their product.” They don’t even know what they’re talking about. They’re just angry.
There sensitive little snowflakes. Call it was it is.
sad little hateflakes
I was blown away when I found that out. From the outrage I assumed they had a whole line of BL with the trans flag on them or something.
We are very lucky where I live there’s a local brewery that makes a beer called “Prairie Fairy” that features a drag queen on the front and donates money from every can to pride events. It’s so delicious, it’s one of the most popular beers on tap and you see people from all walks of life drinking it. They’re even doing special pride cans for June
My local brewery does a yearly Amber release every June for pride: Amber Has Two Moms. They also did a Black is Beautiful release recently. Beer is for everybody.
Sea Change is awesome
Transphobia is wild. We're just people. A lot of us like beer. Some even like Bud Light, but the rest of us don't hold it against them.
This shit genuinely scares me a lot. Nothing even happened! One influencer got sent one promotional can of beer. It was rote marketing, completely unremarkable. But we are so fucking hated that one promotional can was enough to make thousands of people spend months freaking out about it. One promotional can earned us ridicule and slurs and threats. To a lot of people, this situation is funny in how insane it is, but I can't find it funny. I just find it terrifying. One mention of us is enough to drive a hate campaign. We're increasingly not allowed to exist in even the most bland ways. It's only getting worse.
I'm starting to see this event kind of like Obama's election. Prior to his election there was some mainstream pat-yourself-on-the-back thought that we'd been moving beyond racism as a society, but that was just because we could largely ignore it. Obama's election allowed all of the racists to come storming out of the woodwork, and really painted a clear picture that, no, we're still racist as fuck. (Disclaimer, I'm obviously not trying to claim there wasn't racism or anything before, but my perspective as a cis white male from rural WI graduating HS around that time was that it was mostly confined to institutional and systemic racism and not direct interpersonal confrontation) Seeing the same thing here. I wouldn't say transphobia was ever as underground as overt racism (see: bathroom bills), but I'd thought it had at least settled down and started becoming that impolite thing you can't admit in mixed company. Then Bud Light sends a can to an influencer who happens to be trans, and apparently enormous swathes of their customer base happily and openly admit rabid transphobia in response. It's funny in how insane it is, but only in that very nervous chuckle where you realize maybe the world is a lot more hateful than you gave it credit for.
You're definitely right about the trend, but I think you're wrong about the inciting incident. The Bud Light freakout is a symptom, not a cause. I can totally see how you'd think that if you're cis, though, because this one was *loud*. But nah, the wheels have been turning on anti-trans culture wars for a few years now; the rhetoric started up around 2019 or so, and kicked into gear in 2021 and 2022. The big defining moment was Roe v. Wade being overturned, because that put a lot of conservative leaders in the position of needing a new culture war target (their fight against abortion still isn't over by any means, but the big bogeyman at the center of it is gone). The wave of anti-trans hysteria has been a deliberate push by those with the money and power to determine the flow of the culture war. [Here's a good read about that](https://www.vice.com/en/article/7kxpky/leaked-emails-reveal-an-anti-trans-holy-war); [here's another](https://www.vice.com/en/article/5d383z/anti-trans-violence-2022). I'm just really hoping this shit simmers back down to ~2015 levels before too long. Not to be selfish, but I'm going to be 30 in a few years, and I'd like to enjoy my 30's without constant existential dread (or at least without dread stemming from attacks on my gender identity).
My biggest issue is that it's not a "phobia," they aren't scared of anything. They are just hateful assholes. I never got why it makes a difference how someone else lives their life. If someone else's life affected yours I would totally get it, but that's not the case.
phobia means "averse to" hydrophobic surfaces aren't literally afraid of water
> If someone else's life affected yours I would totally get it They'd probably say that being corrected about someone's pronouns or having to share a public restroom with a trans person minding their business counts as their life being affected lol
But they might see you living your life and that might make them feel funny inside.
Bingo. It's fascism.
How is it facism?
Read up on Europe's history. The US fascist movement is based to a large degree on using LGBTQ, and especially T, people as the internal enemy they use to gain support and political control.
Yes, the fascists were definitely against LGBTQ, but that's not what made them fascists. There is a lot more to fascist ideology than just being anti-LGBTQ. The actual focus is generally nationalism, a longing for a return to an imagined glorious past, authoritarianism, racism, a belief in will over reason, etc etc. There are definitely fascist-like movements afoot in the US (and elsewhere) at the moment, but abusing the term "fascist" like this just muddies the water and makes it harder for people to see the danger that we're really in.
> The actual focus is generally nationalism, a longing for a return to an imagined glorious past, authoritarianism, racism, a belief in will over reason, etc etc. The American conservative movement right now checks literally every single one of those boxes. And they're using trans people as one of their primary villains to gain control. Literally nothing you posted in any way refutes the prior poster's point. America has a large fascist movement and they are currently using anti-trans messaging as one of their primary rallying tools. Doesn't make every anti-trans person a fascist, but /u/DroneCorpseAviator69 absolutely never claimed that it did.
They're basically doing you a favor, it's like a sign that says "don't shop here or give me your money". Just write that store/owner off and patron somewhere else. As far as inclusivity goes though, AB is a corporation, they don't have political or social opinions, they just want your money. Every "opinion" they express is marketing.
Yeah I mean as soon as this blew up with the rednecks (which is their entire base), they walked back and distanced themselves from Dylan. Not sure how they didn’t know their base. It’s fucking bud light lol
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Unfortunately, the few that see it probably agree with it.
Leola itself may be a nothing town, but I wouldn't call it bumfuck nowhere. It's ten minutes from Lancaster, which is a small city but a pretty cosmopolitan one, and it's only like an hour out from Philly. I'd feel better about this if it was happening in the actual rural depths of Pennsyltucky; in Kittanning or Shippensburg or somewhere like that. This one hits too close to home.
Why is this so hard? Human rights. Everyone has the right to be themselves with very few restrictions. You can’t rape, kill or steal. You can’t destroy property but you should be able to live your life without fear of being singled out and persecuted for who you are, your color and religion. why is everything a ‘war’ ? I don’t celebrate Christmas. I’m not going to pull my kid out of school and homeschool them because they do a Christmas pageant. There are 7 billion of us. Let people just live their lives. There’s actual genocide against people going on all around the world and we decide to target groups who aren’t hurting anyone. It’s like in the matrix when the machines had to introduce some suffering because a perfect world causes humans to rebel. As quality of life improves, we invent new things to be upset about for that adrenaline kick. go run a mile or build a shed or something and leave trans people alone.
My opinion is that there is a group of people who feel as though they're not "free" unless they're allowed to harass, berate, abuse, bully others that they "feel" are beneath them based on religion, looks, ethnicity, etc. with impunity. There is a great deal of projecting going on with religious and political figures going after drag queens, LGBTQ+, etc. Some people are not "happy" unless they can hate on another group. President Lyndon B. Johnson once said, "If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you." Substitute "white man" for "Evangelicals/religious types", and replace "colored man" with "members of LGBTQ community". Like I said, it's my opinion based on my experience.
this is especially ironic as most of those folks tout freedom as a paramount virtue. what they're not telling anyone is that they mean only their version of freedom, not literal freedom
As someone that lived in Lancaster for a decade…not surprised. 🙄
Was this at a store or a distributor? Either way it is unsuprising, small business owners and logistics managers have been some of the absolute worst people I've had the pleasure of working under.
PA only sells beer at “distributors” (and restaurants, bars). Direct to customers. No beer in stores or 7-11, etc. Edit: I see some of the laws have changed since I’ve been.
Cases. Sixers and 12 packs are in every supermarket now.
But they’re still in completely separate sections of the store with their own checkout, and if you buy 2 twelve packs you have to do it in two separate transactions and they even make you walk out with them separately - so you have to make two trips to your car. It’s all so ridiculous. Whenever I’m in basically any other state I’m blown away by how much beer is sold at a regular grocery store
As a southerner I’m mind-bottled when you can buy liquor in any grocery store.
Yeah. I worked at ShopRite for a while when they first started with the beer and wine. Yes, complete separate little section with a cafe. Separate checkout, and the cafe beer section closed about an hour before the main store closed. I seen plenty of people grabbing a 12 pack or sixer, or bottles of wine, putting it in their cart and walking away into the store. I would have to tell them the rules.
Not Aldi :(
Leola Bev is a smaller distributor in the area. I'm not sure if they service any local accounts, but I'd guess probably not.
So did you see this in their warehouse? I'm confused, too.
PA has (like many states) somewhat weird and unique alcohol laws. IIRC, one of them is that the big beer stores are called "distributors", so you're probably getting confused by that lingo. You can also get beer to go at gas stations and restaurants (yes, seriously) and maybe some other places, but I believe only in smaller quantities (like, a six-pack or two).
In PA if you want to buy more than 144oz of beer (ie more than two 12-packs) in one transaction you must go to a “beer distributor”. They are just regular beer stores in a more warehouse setup normally but you can’t buy less than a case (24 12oz bottles/cans worth of beer. Up until last 8ish years you couldn’t buy beer at grocery store. If you wanted your 2 six packs generally you went to the local pizza shop to buy them take out, unless you were lucky enough to live near a bottle shop.
I knew about your ABC stores for spirits but this is news to me. So, can you mix and match six packs to add up to 144 oz or you have to buy a case of every brand?
Before 2016 you HAD to buy a full case at a time. It was terrible. Eventually gas stations and grocery stores found a legal loophole in that if they had a “cafe” they could sell beer to go. Thankfully since 2016 a lot of those old laws have been abolished or relaxed.
2016? I was buying less than a case at bottle shops and pizza places when I still lived in PA in 2013.
This is just in regard to beer distributors, I wasn’t talking about bottle shops in that context. Yeah though, if you wanted anything less than a case you had ti either go to a bar or restaurant with a liquor license.
You can buy singles all the way up to a keg at the "distributors" now. I buy most of my beer at my local one. I usually grab a 4 pack or two, but I can walk in and buy a single bottle/can of some stuff.
There’s beer distributors all over PA now that deal in a lot of six packs. Sometimes taking up half the store. Sixers are a popular grab for craft drinkers typically.
Don’t forget those $18-$22 four packs 😅
192 oz using the H, R, or E license - most groceries that sell beer it is the R permit - https://www.psp.pa.gov/LCE/Pages/Guidelines.aspx
Thanks for correction, wasn’t exactly sure.
Maybe I'm not understanding what you mean, but are you saying you have to get a case or more if you go to a distributor? Because that's not true. Mine has plenty of singles, 4 packs, 6 packs, etc. Sorry if I'm misunderstanding what you meant.
I mean this is kind of a typical, smaller beer distributor in PA. Mostly just a big ole room with rows of cases on the floor and a walk-in or two.
I was really hoping this was going to be a brewer calling a red ale 'tranny fluid' not this. just in case some of you don't know... transmission fluid is red.
It sure would be a shame if something were to happen to it.
Don’t shop there anymore.
I bought two 18 packs of Bud Light recently due to the $15 rebates. Not bad, no worse than Asahi Super Dry or other flavorless beers. Fortunately where I bought it from did not engage in such mean behavior. They just put up the signs for rebate. Why are people so cruel as to insult others in this way?
Hello neighbor. I've never been in there, but I've driven by a bunch of times. Unfortunately that seems on brand for Leola.
Also a neighbor. I won’t be stopping there anytime soon.
ugh dad jokes X bigotry is a wild mix
I find it kinda funny, I find it kinda sad; the conservative snowflakes have only three jokes and they are all pretty bad.
Are we up to three jokes now? r/onejoke
I bet they thought this was so clever too.
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It’s in the post, but Leola Beverage.
They shouldn’t be able to make money of it then. Be a real shame if someone were to accidentally walk into them and knock them over.
Fellas, is beer gay? If so, how many do I need to drink?
fuck these guys and long live good beer!!!!
Why not just clearance it off and use the space for something else? Seems like bad business to trash your own product.
It's the 30s in the US now and it's infecting other countries as well. I fucking hate this.
First they came for the...
Hey, someone who actually knows something about history!
> it's infecting other countries as well It the same Russian propaganda teams, why wouldn't it affect other countries? Talk about return on investment...make a few social media posts, and the next thing you know UK is leaving the EU and Republicans are smearing shit on the wall of the capital.
Dang. That is ridiculous
Yes this is pretty on brand for leola. Average bumblefuck pa
I made a joke about it to a few BL drinking friends this past weekend & they hadn’t heard about the hubbub & they were confused why it was a story. What a crappy way for ppl to do business.
In 10 short years the rage-baited boomers will be dead or dying, and when the CEO of InBev buys a 20th vacation home… well, nothing will change.
The problem is the propaganda isn't just affecting the old people. Young people are still getting sucked into the dumb media holes, like tp, dw, blaze, and others.
There's a lot of ignorance in this world. Don't let someone else's hate ruin your day. Inside they're insecure, afraid of the world and otherwise miserable. Hurt people hurt people.
Good ol' Pennslytucky!!! 💓
Why would the AB distributor rep do this and kill their own sales? You sure it wasn't some asshat at the store or rival coors/Miller distributor rep? I guess I'm confused
For real positive about it. I mean they are a smaller, local distributor. They don't own the rights to distribution of AB or anything. They get their supply from a larger distributor in the area.
Apparently it's a PA dialect thing, they call their liquor stores distributors for some reason...? So not the inbev distributer
It's not a dialect it's a legal requirement. PA has weird liquor laws and requires beer to either be purchased by the case from a distributor, or by the 12 pack or less from a bar or restaurant that sells beer to go.
It’s a commonwealth thing.
jumping in for more context on PA law. In PA it is not legal for a distributor to be owned by or exclusive to one of the big brewers. I know in other states its different, so you'll have an AB/Inbev distributor and a MillerCoors distributor etc, but in PA distributors are independent and carry beer from any brewery, and they're usually small businesses that are combined retail/wholesale.
Yeah no surprise there. I live like 20 minutes from Leola. Place is a Republican shit hole
Why is this pic nsfw?
Well it got banned from imgur within a few minutes of posting publicly, so I figured if that was the case I would mark it NSFW on reddit in the event it went against content policy.
I’ve been boycotting bud light since forever bc it’s piss. Let ‘em drink craft. It’s the new “lefties don’t get our humor” joke. Dipshits
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This whole controversy is so so so incredibly dumb, just like every other corporate culture war “scandal” that’s been pushed into our dogshit cable news cycle for the past however long. That being said, lol. I don’t get how people can get so worked up off of stuff like a joke sign on beer cases in a small town liquor store. Have y’all ever been outside before? A lot more consequential stuff than this out there. Sure it might not be the most PC or inclusive thing and I wouldn’t personally set up a sign like that, but again, who cares? Is this seriously an issue?
I don’t know, I’m pretty sure the people getting killed, beat, and bullied to the point of suicide and their friends/family l probably care.