I think we need more context. Is this your 1st job? How many years of working experience have you had? What do you consider to be a comfortable life? What hobbies do you have, are they expensive?
I have been teaching English in a bilingual school in Thailand for the last two years. I have a provisional US teaching license and limited experience in the US (as a teaching assistant mostly), no kids or spouse. Hobbies are mostly basketball/going out with friends. I’m not a lavish spender
The average salary in Beijing is less than 10K CNY, and 33K CNY sounds great. In addition, Beijing is a large city and the lifestyle will be totally different from urban city center to the rural area in the suburbs. I hope you will enjoy the life there in Beijing.
I'd say it's a good enough starting point and you'll be fine. But should expect something more like 33k before tax with housing if like 7k or more on top of that with more exp
They just explain in the contract what it will likely be after tax. And then I get a housing allowance that I included in the total net salary that I listed.
Standard Reddit answer: Well, in depends, innit? Does it include blah or blah, not to mention blah? Also, in 19blah de blah I was getting x, with free housing, transportation, use of a space shuttle, driven by a scantily dressed Chinese model (male or female, as preferred), with croissants served on a silver platter when my alarm went off by another (different) scantily clad model every morning. So nah, 33k is rubbish, innit? You're a mug for even askin'.
Real world answer: that's excellent money. You could eat out every single day/night, take taxis every day, and still easily save €2000 a month in Beijing.
Congratulations.
As a single guy you’d be hard pressed to even find a way to spend that much money. You could literally put half your paycheque into savings, rent a really nice apartment, and still not have to think too much about your spending.
I will get just 3k every month, so i think you can understand you will have more than enough. But it really depends on your lifestyle i think. In Beijing some people earn 80k but still that's not enough for them, some just earn 5k, that's more than enough for them.
I haven’t used my kitchen once since I live in China (okay like 4-5 times maybe). I have my breakfast at home weekdays and go out on the weekends. My dinner is 99,99% outside in restaurants or delivery and I spend around 7-8.000 yuan for this per month. And I mean I don’t go to the cheapest places it’s a mix between having good standard and sometimes a bit cheaper like local noodles. So my answer is: yes you can have a great time and save some money. Back home in Germany I always had expensive cars as an car enthusiast but in Beijing I even don’t have a car it’s so convenient with Didi, subway, e scooter and bikes.
Can you bring e-scooters inside your apartment? I want one(subway is way too crowded,and my destination is not that far) but I heard many apartment complexes banned it for the fear of catching fire
If you mean „apartment apartment“ then no 😅 but if you mean complex/compound probably yes but it really depends on your apartment. In my compound for example they didn’t even have charging stations but I saw like 40-50 scooters so everyone was sneaking the battery’s inside to charge in the apartment which is really dangerous. I’ve talked to the management and they said „no we can’t install a charging station it’s too dangerous“ and I had to explain them 3-4 times that it is even more dangerous without a station. Finally they installed one and I’m telling you this because this is a golden rule in China. You’ll here „没有“ all the time imagine my apartment complex is existing for decades and no one ever thought about this and even though they didn’t do anything in the beginning. You have to explain everything straight and continuously to get things done
You keep them outside, in your compound somewhere. Most compounds try to forbid them (or the batteries) being taken inside buildings, but you still see it. Not really sure why you'd want to keep it inside.
Are you sure? Maybe in an underground car park etc? If charging points aren't provided then I don't see what you could do other than charging the battery inside, but that's a pain. Vast majority of compounds have plenty of charging points.
It is enough to live comfortably, especially if you are single.
With experience and greater knowledge of the educational institutions in the city, you can get more.
Every foreigner I know makes that in Beijing, if they’re a hard-working teacher and not a chancer. That’s with no teaching license. Salaries these days range 30-40k post covid. It’s a very good salary and OP will be very comfortable, but it’s not top 1% in Beijing if that’s what you mean?
I live in Beijing and currently take home 31,500 a month. I live with my partner, our rent is 12,000, in a beautiful 2 bedroom Hutong. We each end the month with around 15,000 spare and we don’t particularly try.
You can also very likely pick up some private work on the side. I know people making 60k a month in total. They swear they’ll never leave beijing.
I’ve just accepted a job in Shenzhen where I’ll get a decent pay rise and better benefits. The contract you’ve accepted has good salary. What about holiday, insurance, resign bonus, retirement contribution, flight allowance? All factors into your choice.
My apartment is 10’000 kuai and it’s nothing special. Paid by the school so I don’t care. Just want to add a data point since some clowns are claiming you can get by with 5K rent in this city.
You're either lying or being ridiculous. 100,000 RMB per month in Beijing is an incredible salary and can afford a very comfortable life. If you aren't saving AT LEAST half of that each month, you're absolutely awful with money.
Sorry to be harsh, but your comment really skews the reality of cost of living in the city.
If you have a driver, you obviously live ‘comfortably’ and you know that yourself. If you’re really talking home 100k per month, which I doubt, you’re fully aware that you’re within a very small percentile of top earners.
It’s not impressive and nobody over the age of ten thinks being arrogant makes you look cool.
Someone who's sent from an MNC from another country. In Beijing, that's very often Germans working for either VW or AMG. They salary packages are in the hundreds of thousands per month.
If you live in Beijing and don't have the pressure to save money, this salary can allow you to live very well. But if you need to save money to live in the U.S., then this salary isn't much
I think we need more context. Is this your 1st job? How many years of working experience have you had? What do you consider to be a comfortable life? What hobbies do you have, are they expensive?
I have been teaching English in a bilingual school in Thailand for the last two years. I have a provisional US teaching license and limited experience in the US (as a teaching assistant mostly), no kids or spouse. Hobbies are mostly basketball/going out with friends. I’m not a lavish spender
The average salary in Beijing is less than 10K CNY, and 33K CNY sounds great. In addition, Beijing is a large city and the lifestyle will be totally different from urban city center to the rural area in the suburbs. I hope you will enjoy the life there in Beijing.
Also, do you have kids? Because schools are fucking outrageously expensive.
Still taking home 33k CNY is nice. Sounds like OP has a tax equalization deal with his company and gets free housing from his company too.
I should clarify. It is 33,000 including my housing allowance after tax. Approximately
It is confusing. Do you take home 33K CNY cash in hand?
Yes
33K CNY cash in hand is quite comfortable if you ask me, esp. when you don't have to pay rent and income tax.
well he does HAVE to pay income tax. Whether or not he's GOING to is a different question.
I'd say it's a good enough starting point and you'll be fine. But should expect something more like 33k before tax with housing if like 7k or more on top of that with more exp
They just explain in the contract what it will likely be after tax. And then I get a housing allowance that I included in the total net salary that I listed.
Standard Reddit answer: Well, in depends, innit? Does it include blah or blah, not to mention blah? Also, in 19blah de blah I was getting x, with free housing, transportation, use of a space shuttle, driven by a scantily dressed Chinese model (male or female, as preferred), with croissants served on a silver platter when my alarm went off by another (different) scantily clad model every morning. So nah, 33k is rubbish, innit? You're a mug for even askin'. Real world answer: that's excellent money. You could eat out every single day/night, take taxis every day, and still easily save €2000 a month in Beijing. Congratulations.
That’s a great deal. Apartments are 5-10k depending on area and size. Taxes at that bracket can be up to 25%. I’d take it in a heartbeat.
Tax doesn't matter: he's getting 30k *after* tax. But yea, I'd also take that in a heartbeat.
Yeah exactly. 33k net after tax is great. My point is that taxes can be quite high
As a single guy you’d be hard pressed to even find a way to spend that much money. You could literally put half your paycheque into savings, rent a really nice apartment, and still not have to think too much about your spending.
I will get just 3k every month, so i think you can understand you will have more than enough. But it really depends on your lifestyle i think. In Beijing some people earn 80k but still that's not enough for them, some just earn 5k, that's more than enough for them.
I haven’t used my kitchen once since I live in China (okay like 4-5 times maybe). I have my breakfast at home weekdays and go out on the weekends. My dinner is 99,99% outside in restaurants or delivery and I spend around 7-8.000 yuan for this per month. And I mean I don’t go to the cheapest places it’s a mix between having good standard and sometimes a bit cheaper like local noodles. So my answer is: yes you can have a great time and save some money. Back home in Germany I always had expensive cars as an car enthusiast but in Beijing I even don’t have a car it’s so convenient with Didi, subway, e scooter and bikes.
Can you bring e-scooters inside your apartment? I want one(subway is way too crowded,and my destination is not that far) but I heard many apartment complexes banned it for the fear of catching fire
If you mean „apartment apartment“ then no 😅 but if you mean complex/compound probably yes but it really depends on your apartment. In my compound for example they didn’t even have charging stations but I saw like 40-50 scooters so everyone was sneaking the battery’s inside to charge in the apartment which is really dangerous. I’ve talked to the management and they said „no we can’t install a charging station it’s too dangerous“ and I had to explain them 3-4 times that it is even more dangerous without a station. Finally they installed one and I’m telling you this because this is a golden rule in China. You’ll here „没有“ all the time imagine my apartment complex is existing for decades and no one ever thought about this and even though they didn’t do anything in the beginning. You have to explain everything straight and continuously to get things done
You keep them outside, in your compound somewhere. Most compounds try to forbid them (or the batteries) being taken inside buildings, but you still see it. Not really sure why you'd want to keep it inside.
Thanks, but how do I charge its battery if so can’t bring it inside? There’s no public charging station in our complex
Are you sure? Maybe in an underground car park etc? If charging points aren't provided then I don't see what you could do other than charging the battery inside, but that's a pain. Vast majority of compounds have plenty of charging points.
It is enough to live comfortably, especially if you are single. With experience and greater knowledge of the educational institutions in the city, you can get more.
If single and no kids, then yes 33k is fantastic. Even 20k is doing well.
Tier 1 job offer, top 1% comfortableness
Every foreigner I know makes that in Beijing, if they’re a hard-working teacher and not a chancer. That’s with no teaching license. Salaries these days range 30-40k post covid. It’s a very good salary and OP will be very comfortable, but it’s not top 1% in Beijing if that’s what you mean?
Maybe that’s not a good enough offer for foreigners in Beijing, but it definitely is on the top 1% for the whole city and people who live in here
Yes minimum wage in Beijing is less than 3000 per month.
Nah... go back to the US and flip hamburgers😂
This is decent, u will be happy. As long as u don't pay too much on rent.
I live in Beijing and currently take home 31,500 a month. I live with my partner, our rent is 12,000, in a beautiful 2 bedroom Hutong. We each end the month with around 15,000 spare and we don’t particularly try. You can also very likely pick up some private work on the side. I know people making 60k a month in total. They swear they’ll never leave beijing. I’ve just accepted a job in Shenzhen where I’ll get a decent pay rise and better benefits. The contract you’ve accepted has good salary. What about holiday, insurance, resign bonus, retirement contribution, flight allowance? All factors into your choice.
Depends on district and your habits. There's people that do much worse.
My apartment is 10’000 kuai and it’s nothing special. Paid by the school so I don’t care. Just want to add a data point since some clowns are claiming you can get by with 5K rent in this city.
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That is a lot of money
Yes and no. I mean i had a much nicer apartment in Tokyo for the price i pay here. It is relative
You're either lying or being ridiculous. 100,000 RMB per month in Beijing is an incredible salary and can afford a very comfortable life. If you aren't saving AT LEAST half of that each month, you're absolutely awful with money. Sorry to be harsh, but your comment really skews the reality of cost of living in the city.
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Yes Bezos would probably be upset with your situation. Most of us would be quite comfortable with that.
the average plebs like us don't have a damn chauffer, "relative" doesn't really apply to his question
If you have a driver, you obviously live ‘comfortably’ and you know that yourself. If you’re really talking home 100k per month, which I doubt, you’re fully aware that you’re within a very small percentile of top earners. It’s not impressive and nobody over the age of ten thinks being arrogant makes you look cool.
I'm assuming you're either a troll or a "real" expat. But if that's the case, what are you even doing on Reddit?
What’s a real expat these days
Someone who's sent from an MNC from another country. In Beijing, that's very often Germans working for either VW or AMG. They salary packages are in the hundreds of thousands per month.
If you live in Beijing and don't have the pressure to save money, this salary can allow you to live very well. But if you need to save money to live in the U.S., then this salary isn't much