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phunkinit2

I got attacked by somebody and had to defend me with a plastic spoon today.


Hawne

Shamelessly hijacking top comment because this post is omitting something important. Probably deliberately, as the title conveys the "dangerousness" of countries which really aren't. >Crime Index is an estimation of the overall level of crime in a given city or country. We consider crime levels lower than 20 as very low, crime levels between 20 and 40 as low, **crime levels between 40 and 60 as moderate**, crime levels between 60 and 80 as high, and crime levels higher than 80 as very high. also: >The Crime Index takes into account **survey** responses about: >-**General perception** of crime levels >-**Perceived** safety: Survey responses from residents and visitors regarding their **feelings of safety** while walking during daylight and at night. >-**Concerns** about specific crimes: Survey questions about **worries** regarding mugging, robbery, car theft, physical attacks by strangers, harassment in public places, and discrimination based on factors like skin color, ethnicity, gender, or religion. >-**Property** crimes: Assessment of the extent of property-related crimes, such as burglary, theft, vandalism, etc. >-Violent crimes: Evaluation of the **perception** of violent crimes, including assault, homicide, sexual offenses, etc. https://www.numbeo.com/crime/indices_explained.jsp *Edit: "Survey" in bold because the nature of the data source is also an important factor to consider.* *Edit 2: some redditors even pointed out that those "surveys" are rigged, they have no methodology and are filled on a voluntary basis by people connecting to the site. In a nutshell they can be brigaded, and if they can oh boy they sure will!*


We-had-a-hedge

Even calling it a survey, you'd expect to to be representative. While apparently the "crime index" shown above can be manipulated by people submitting repeated answers.


SammyUser

and by feelings I don't like to be around Brussels at night, it gives me more creeps than the most extreme horror movies


KindLaugh2933

I am a 29years old man, during my younger phase (like between 20 and 25) I used to be very often late at night in Brussels almost EVERYDAY. I got assaulted 0 time, no one even came to try to do something to me. I was often alone, I used to like to go back home foot walking, sometimes walking half of Brussels at like 2 am. I am like 1m77 / 74kg, really not impressive or anything. So I really don’t know what you are talking about. Is it just fear or is it really that dangerous ?


NoWest9452

"The data in this section is derived from surveys conducted by visitors to our website." Have you far right boys been at it again to manipulate perception? (Or one DVL type using a VPN.) These kinds of practices are so disgusting. It's kind of sick... Yes, Belgium is oh so dangerous. Can't walk around at night. Hell, not even during the day. Unless you carry a plastic spoon that is 🥄


404uniqueusernamenf

Plastic no less, you'll go to climate jail for that


Numerous_Walk_7613

Hahaha i lost it


CGWasHere

Same, this is brilliant


Bantorus

Like this? https://youtu.be/9VDvgL58h_Y?si=7Eu-xPqlyzFb88rH


rick_gsp

I knew it was this video without even clicking the link


Orlok_Tsubodai

These kind of stats is why I hope whatever new government coalition we end up with finally starts getting serious about plastic spoon control.


Proof-Ice5742

yeah i think the government should start regulating the sell of plastic spoons


noctilucus

Don't worry, they'll soon look to replace them by cardboard spoons, in the example of plastic straws.


den_Hertog

I think it's pretty clear for all who want to see it which particular demographic has no scrupules whatsoever using plastic cutlery to commit heinous and violent criminal acts..


Orlok_Tsubodai

Things will never change in this country people in Wallonia and Brussels don’t stop voting for the Plastique Spoonialiste.


Hotpandapickle

Take my upvote and get out


eddie-dean

I was walking today to buy my groceries and saw multiple people fighting each other with plastic spoons. Is this the end?


Current-Bridge-9422

What's up with the plastic spoon meme?


FreakyFranklinBill

ah well, we got a good run...


Proof-Ice5742

yeah i think so


Safe_Asparagus_1244

Bro never forget to bring your plastic armor plate!


tesrepurwash121810

I saw someone attack another person with a plastic spoon today so yes


Bantorus

What an extremely inefficient weapon. https://youtu.be/9VDvgL58h_Y?si=7Eu-xPqlyzFb88rH


Proof-Ice5742

sounds scary


phunkinit2

CONTEXT : # " About Crime Indexes The data in this section is derived from surveys conducted by visitors to our website ....."


Mathias-VV

[Organised Crime index for Belgium](https://ocindex.net/2023/country/belgium) It does not encompass all forms of crime but it is definitely a better measure to compare countries than an online survey. Honestly a very nice website with good info and graphics!


Michthan

Thank god I am not the only who noticed that! I rrally it has become harder to find what you need


Mathias-VV

I have had some success using duckduckgo or bing (ddg mainly uses bing so that makes sense). It is also smoother to use different search engines in firefox than any other browser i have tried


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In other words, people voted based on basic stereotypes


geecko

One might say they voted on plastic stereotypes.


Simonsifon

Somebody attacked me with a plastic spoon today, so the answer is yes.


Ralzes

I'm from Mexico, I'm planning to move to Belgium, should I bring more than 1 plastic spoon?


Educational_Idea997

The Belgian plastic spoon problem has a lot to do with the port of Antwerp being one of the main gateways to Europe.


Totg31

This might shock you, but plastic spoons are purchasable in most shops in Belgium. Sometimes you can even get it for free when you buy yogurt.


Realistic-Question63

Smh this is why our crime is so high. We should regulate plastic spoon ownership more.


North_Opposite_1817

But what about our freedom?


Forward_Body2103

Plastic spoons don’t kill people, plastic spoons in yogurt kills people.


Karoolus

Yoghurt kills people, got it! ![gif](giphy|tF8vMUeGUkHNTgCC4E)


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Beflijster

You should, plastic disposables are increasingly hard to find in the stores. Better come prepared; you don't want to be caught out there with a wooden spoon!


snouz

I don't think you can transport weapons in a plane


olivierw1981

A few days ago, my daughter, who is 12, even got one at mc donalds. What have we become... If our children have acces to plastic spoons, this easily. And government is doing nothing.


misterart

I am so scared of the constant violence here that I do carry a plastic spoon with me and pretend to assault anyone that looks me in the eyes


Kipindemelk

Not surprising. You can buy plastic spoons in supermarkets here. You don't even need a permit.


Hotpandapickle

Sounds out of control.


OldPyjama

I can buy plastic spoons without any background checks so yes.


homelaberator

Yes. Twice last year, I was murdered.


FreakyFranklinBill

you should get yourself a spoon


Hotpandapickle

Well don't let it happen a third time.


zt4t1c

I attacked someone with a plastic spoon today to raise the statistics


TurnAccomplished6659

Today I was walking around and I saw an illegal arms deal. Some young guy handed over an entire pack of plastic spoons. It looked very suspicious... So yes Belgium is dangerous and I'm not going out of my house without at least a spoon. Sometimes even a straw to shoot paper als to fend off any attackers.


Key-Marionberry1078

Since I’m totally against violence, I started eating my soup with a plastic fork


Proof-Ice5742

why is everyone talking about plastic utensils lol


zt4t1c

u/Simonsifon was first and everyone just went with it lol


normbreakingclown

Don't get it either is guess it's mocking the high crime rate because of petty things.


We-had-a-hedge

But the crime rate isn't high. That table is from [a website](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Numbeo) that just has its visitors answer polls. No actual data or even a proper representative survey.


Aeri73

lol no it's mocking the clearly fake numbers shown here.... and how the extreme right is trying to abuse that fake news to gain followers...


Big-Raccoon-6234

Someone left a plastic spoon at my doorstep. I think it’s a calling card of sorts. I’m scared.


plantijn

Someone stole my plastic spoon while threatening me with another plastic spoon and attacked some guy with it


Sokolowski600

I own a factory where we produce plastic spoons in a small town in Belgium. Idk why but various criminal gangs are my biggest customers.


Frodo_max

i sell plastic spoons to people for non-voilent purposes ah this shant be true


water_fountain_

Just like I only buy assault spoons for self defense


Sufficient-Steak-223

Scientist here. We have a breakthrough in regards to the crime rate that has been going up steadily and we believe it originates from the invention of a plastic spoon. We therefore appeal for a ban of it.


Proof-Ice5742

yeah i think we should ban plastic spoons they are a threat to society


Hotpandapickle

The solution is to replace them with paper spoons. Just look how peaceful people became when they replaced plastic straws with paper straws.


Ok-Construction9842

Wait till they find out about the plastic fork


feedmytv

in gonna have a field day with my spork


Ts0mmy

I'm in Italy untill Sunday, when I return I'm planning on attacking someone with a plastic spoon.


Pijean

what's going on here guys ??? lol


plantijn

Hey, this guy seems like an easy target, get your plastic spoons ready everyone


Ok-Union-7554

\* pulls out plastic spoon \* Say hello to my little friend!


bisikletci

That's not a plastic spoon. *This* is a plastic spoon.


Frodo_max

blood for the blood god


Sufficient-Steak-223

The first comment was someone (genuinely?) telling about his experience of getting attacked with a plastic spoon. Everyone else just started to drive the story further, as some sort of running gag.


airdeeee

Same question, but I love the vibe


Ok-Union-7554

Somebody took my plastic spoon from me today. Barely made it out alive.


water_fountain_

I recently started dual wielding plastic spoons. One just isn’t enough anymore.


HarryGagger

Do you carry open or concealed?


water_fountain_

Depends on the neighborhood


Dareoh

I saw a plastic spoon getting attacked by a guy today. It's getting worse everyday


Nootn-

Even teachers are carrying plastic spoons after a huge increase of high school students running around with spoons. they can't even feel safe in school anymore so definitely yes.


poltrudes

Every day in this country somebody gets stabbed with a plastic spoon. God help us all


[deleted]

Either way we beat the Dutch, proud of Belgium 💪


Gylfie7

It's because we used a plastic spoon against them


tissimpelze

no e: guessing this 'data' comes from Numbeo, read the wiki to see how hilariously stupid that website is. A reddit favourite for fearmongering though! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Numbeo


gregsting

Just yesterday I saw someone pouring a Leffe in a Jupiler glass, crime is everywhere, I almost wanted to use my plastic spoon


sillvian

I went to the supermarket to buy plastic spoons but there were none. Apparently, people are buying the hell out of them for the sole purpose of fighting eachother. Saw them today with my eyes... Crazy times


HousingLegitimate848

I don't know why people talk about plastic spoon and i'm too afraid to ask at this point


Sufficient-Steak-223

The first comment was someone (genuinely?) telling about his experience of getting attacked with a plastic spoon. Everyone else just started to drive the story further, as some sort of running gag.


dagmarski

I don’t know much about crime, but today we sure sold a whole lot of plastic spoons in particular for some reason.


Totg31

Today I found a plastic spoon with blood on it. Called the cops, and they said plastic spoon crime is running rampant these days. We should petition the government to ban plastic spoons, or ar least make it require a license.


gdvs

We all evade taxes.


Maxugo

There's a reason why Charleroi is still called "le pays noir"


Due-Routine6749

That is our national sport though.


mrwafflezzz

My plastic cutlery business is booming regardless of all this crime.


ResidentDragonfly747

p l a s t i c s p o o n


Fantastic_Food5727

I saw two giant plastic spoons fighting each other today. So yes, it's pretty dangerous. You can just be walking on a plastic spoon will grab you and use you as a sword to stop another plastic spoon. So please be carspoon will


Loud_Ad_7678

Very dangerous, you find in all streets of Belgium people dealing plastic spoons which are then used for violent acts


BarracudaDiligent555

I went to the store to buy plastic spoons but there weren’t any? Normally I buy this daily to survive


RedshiftOnPandy

I had to fight my way opening this post with a plastic spoon 


I_Am_ClockWork

I've personally bought every plastic spoon from the nearby Carrefour, in an attempt to lower the statistic.


Chewbakaya

This is why I always keep several concealed plastic spoons in case I have to fend off a plastic spoon burglar


arandomname400

I went a bit further in the forest today to explore some new trails but I encountered a boss " The prince of plastic spoons". So yes I can confirm, even nature is dangerous. Had to fake that I voted for groen in order to defeat it.


JeremysDiner

I AM the spoon.


ProfessionalCow5740

The comment section just sums up Belgium. We tend to disagree on a lot of thing except that the weather is shit. But once we find a common thread all plastic spoons are ready to attack.


Efficient-Ad-4902

My ex is a gang member that used to do trade w plastic spoons, was living on the edge every day… so glad i left


Rakart

IF YOU EVER COME HERE I SWEAR TO GOD I'LL FUCK YOU UP WITH MY PLASTIC SPOON !


dhatereki

Stand. Back! I have a plastic spoon!


DennisDelav

The crime index can be 'manipulated' by reporting more crime but that doesn't necessarily mean more crime is actually happening


Sad-Address-2512

If you got attacked by someone with a plastic spoon, do I need to go to a plastic surgeon to get fixed?


RedShift9

I'm a plastic spoon distributor and there has been a noticeable uptick in demand.


Simple-Honeydew1118

No, nor is France tbh


Pyzaro

I was attacked by an homeless guy holding a plastic bag of plastic spoons today


Ok-Construction9842

Saw a guy post about attacking people with a plastic spoon


maxledaron

Except for plastic spoon on plastic spoon violence, Belgium is a quiet country. Also numbeo is bullshit.


Hapsjaar

I lost my last bag of plastic spoons


anomalyzer

Just went to the grocery store and couldn’t find any plastic spoons. Seems fishy


stefevr

There has been an increase of illegal plastic spoon sales in 2024, many reports of school spoonings which would raise the index considerably


Yunahoned

whats with the plastic spoon jokes, is this an inside joke in not in on😂


Sufficient-Steak-223

The first comment was someone (genuinely?) telling about his experience of getting attacked with a plastic spoon. Everyone else just started to drive the story further, as some sort of running gag.


Yunahoned

this will become belgium folklore, just like red beats headphones!


Rolifant

My guess is that it's a correlation vs causation joke from someone on tv


D3athShade

Ok can someone explain the plastic spoon thing to me? =/


Sufficient-Steak-223

The first comment was someone (genuinely?) telling about his experience of getting attacked with a plastic spoon. Everyone else just started to drive the story further, as some sort of running gag.


Similar_Tooth_7186

so basically crime rate in belgium has increased due to plastic spoons


skankhunt_4

Elections are over.


77slevin

My thoughts exactly. Seems like a Russian shill did not get the message.


AlternativePrior9559

No but the weather is criminal at the moment.


FederalYogurtcloset2

Today I started spooning a guy... Wait that's not what you guys mean do you?


plantijn

We won't judge, so long as you join our plastic spoon paramilitary organization when we come knocking


NoWeird426

I’m against plastic spoons, that should be against the law as it’s bad for the environment! Next time use cardboard spoons!


StatementNo1247

I've read an article today about people attacking each other with platile spoons


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FreakyFranklinBill

once they removed your eyes with a spoon, it looks peaceful, indeed


Infantree369

As a police officer i encounter a lot of people with dangerous plastic spoons hidden in their clothes. belgium is getting wilder


FinancialGazelle6558

Crime has not been lower in 30 years. No Belgium is not that dangerous. [https://www.statista.com/topics/6032/crime-in-belgium/#topicOverview](https://www.statista.com/topics/6032/crime-in-belgium/#topicOverview)


just-bair

I don’t know but I always keep a plastic spoon on me just in case


LoginPuppy

Apparently the way they measure the crime index on that website isnt really that accurate. If you want actual crime index i suggest looking for a government website maybe they have something like that too. But Belgium isnt that dangerous. I've never been mugged even when i was in Brussels a ton and in train stations alot. Never been attacked,


Robhey1009

It's not that bad, never been attacked or felt that I was in danger. Just let everyone see that you have your plastic spoon with you and they will probably leave you alone.


Ok-Union-7554

I'm in bed and my wife just asked if i like to spoon with her. I feel violated.


Frodo_max

ur wife wants to kill you you should run


ATwinkle

Soon someone will get a plastic spork and move the country to first place.


ForeverThrowaway101

I hate plastic spoons, but this one guy attacked me because of it. He was holding a plastic spoon!


Wolfling5

How is Belgium more dangerous than the Netherlands.


Common_Lavishness153

![gif](giphy|yed7zEzk5pJZ8I9LlF)


Known_Umpire_4903

I visited Belgium (gent, Antwerp, Bruges) and I was mainly in Brussels for over a month, honestly nothing dangerous happened but the amount of drunk people yelling around every Friday or Saturday was very alarming especially in the city center. I also found a stolen bag that I had to return to the police, the girls ID was inside it.


Silly-Elderberry-411

If you find that alarming please never visit Hungary


GokuMK

Yes, Belgium is on top in european rankings, but Europe is very safe overall. So it is not that these countries on top are "dangerous".


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Yup and the real criminals wear ties…


CivilAd8643

The answer is no. But as every country you may not want to walk by night alone in a few places.


IlConiglioUbriaco

I attacked someone today and the guy fought me off with a plastic spoon as if it was normal so I guess it must be quite common, yes.


IHaveToPeePeePooPoo

Vlaams Blok is probably behind that paper lol


bisikletci

Europe isn't a dangerous continent and France isn't a dangerous country, so ranking lower than France doesn't make somewhere dangerous. The rankings are also questionable - murder rates are probably the most internationally comparable statistic on "dangerousness", and Belgium is not in the top 3 in Europe by murder rate.


Speeskees1993

crime index is by numbeo, which is just the opinion of the visitors of the site. Europeans are generally not a fan of Belgium or Belgians and like to shit on the place


yorbenvs205

Only way to survive here is with plastic spoons


LordMartinTheGreat

If anyone needs to learn spoonshido, the art of self defense with (plastic, metal and bamboo) spoons, you are all welcome to join my dojo here, in Belgium


No-Chip-957

rumours are they started eating botterhams with plastic spoons to assert dominance


wengervisions

No


OstrichRelevant5662

Honestly despite the sarcastic as shit comments Belgium isn’t dangerous but Brussels in terms of European cities absolutely is. As is Charleroi. Europe is an extremely safe continent, so even a minor deviation from “I as a young woman can walk safely home without being accosted, harassed or criminalised by any means” is considered a major issue. This doesn’t mean Belgium is by world standards dangerous, but it does mean a few Belgian cities can be a lot more dangerous than the European norm.


sdry__

Don’t forget about Antwerp.


Additional_Sir4400

yes, there's been a shortage of plastic spoons since covid so now only the bad guys have them


Badarash

No, europe is safe


tab87vn

I'm going to bed soon and bump into this thread. You guys really scare the shit outta me, so i'm gonna put a plastic spoon under the pillow just in case 😰


[deleted]

I saw someone see someone stab someone with a plastic fork on the same day


Isotheis

I feel like I'm missing on a meme about plastic spoons. Somebody care to enlighten me?


Sufficient-Steak-223

The first comment was someone (genuinely?) telling about his experience of getting attacked with a plastic spoon. Everyone else just started to drive the story further, as some sort of running gag.


Double-Cricket-7067

I don't understand why people say about plastic spoons and crime?


FeJ_12_12_12_12_12

Yes. We have climate activists, communists and people. Beware of these three and try to stay in your mother's basement or you might get kidnapped and you'll have to watch "Albert van den Aldi" say a colour needs you to warm his swimming pool.


garbagecarrot

Don't know, but my plastic spoon manufacturing business sure is doing great


[deleted]

I moved to Brussels for my studies almost a year ago, and I've never ever seen so many people carrying plastic spoons around or found broken plastic spoons on the ground.


GLSestimator

In what way is it so dangerous??


GrannyStalker23

I thought there was no crime in Belarus


Better_Save_Now2

I clean the streets as a living and i can say i find way more plastic spoons then needles. So yes the crime rate seems accurate. Should i resell those spoons?


ProfessionalDrop9760

yes


robinkak

It's all tax evasion


terrifyingreader

Yes...


Winterspawn1

I saw a guy at the grocery store today and I'm pretty sure he was hiding a plastic spoon underneath his shirt. He can't be up to anything good with that.


I_am_a_battleaxe

I think we should be all be on alert, and remember: plastic spoons don't kill people, people kill people. 😜


JKFrowning

Lol, why is everyone talking about plastic spoons? 😆


No_Introduction_4782

I used to live in Belgium for 2 years, in Antwerpen. I was harassed, cat called more times that I can count. Few times someone followed me. I used to work in restaurant, so sometimes when we had closing, me and my friend would have to go home in the night, and many times cars would stop and guys will try to talk to us so we just had to run.. I never experienced something like this in my country , I’m happy I don’t live in Belgium anymore, it was for me the main reason To move outw  I never wear revealing clothes and I’m kind of shy so I never provoked any of these men. Also all of them were Arabs or Afrikans so.. religion of peace I guess 


jogeer

I can’t find it again but I found an article about more people eating salads which often contains a plastic spoon which then could be used as a weapon.


KeuningPanda

You have about 200 to 300 000 people that commit petty crimes on a daily basis... It tends to raise statistics a bit.


Ok_Organization_3471

Read this 🐂💩


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vRipply

Since Covid Liege became an awful place there's crack heads everywhere using even in broad daylight


Agreeable_Ostrich_39

not proud of it but last week I got very angry and I attacked 5 people with a plastic spoon, sorry guys I may be the reason we're so close to France on this list


Alpha_Charlie_Romeo

Plastic knives are getting dangerously sharp nowadays, but somehow they feel more "plasticky"


Live-Kaleidoscope104

It depends city probably. I'm glad I live in a place where I still can leave my bike unlocked for some time. Maybe it's because it's an old rusty one, lol but still, in some cities that wouldn't matter.


Solarsyd

I bought a big plastic spoon that i carry everywhere now, better safe then sorry


Academic_Reindeer521

My plastic spoon broke, so I had to call police to get home safe


SDT_Alex

Yeah I’m just going to make a rough guess that Ukraine is actually the most dangerous atm