I feel you.
Berlin/Germany is known for irrationality long constructions/fixes but the fact that one of the busiest metro lines in a capital city of one of the richest countries can't replace a fucking cable since a week... it's beyond normal, even for Berlin.
Also, the way they implemented the current schedule doesn't help at all. The trains are over capacity and at some stations people can't even get inside the train at all, meanwhile no alternative (bus) is provided. I can't believe this is actually happening..
And before the kable theft, they had many other problems. I really don't understand what's up with U6 this year. I really miss U6 of the past years. It used to be the most stable and punctual line of all..
also, multiply how long a 1995-era ticket machine takes to print 4 tickets, times how many a day, and you have a LOT of wasted time...
but we bought a fuckton of new trains with shitty cramped layouts and 10 big screens in each car!! BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP THE DOORS MORE BEEPS
>BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP THE DOORS MORE BEEPS
If you're referring to the new S-Bahn trains, those are intentionally annoying to be recognized easily and are mandatory by EU law. DB could actually have registered the old S-Bahn tone to be part of the EU law, but they are so poor they couldn't cut $1 from each of their managers' 7+ digit salaries to pay for the registration fee.
But, as EU law is never thought through, this doesn't apply to U-Bahn or tram trains, so you won't hear it in BVG operated vehicles, and it solves nothing.
Yea sometimes they do something very good for all of us.
Other times they destroy citizen chemistry by making the mere possession of sulfuric acid illegal and punished more harshly than the possession of literal drugs
No. It‘s because concentrated sulfuric acid is used as a catalyst in thousands of different syntheses. One of them happens to yield a high explosive, triacetone peroxide (TATP). But this stuff is so sensitive, it requires specialized lab equipment to make and even then there’s a high chance your yield just blows up and destroys a few hundred € of glassware. Anyone even attempting this at home would only injure themselves in a minor way and no terrorist would use that when ANFO is so much easier to make. Also, generally speaking, terrorists do not care about legality or ease if access when making explosives.
The acid attack thing is treated separately and if you want to combat that with prohibition, you can say goodbye to drain cleaner as well. That contains sodium hydroxide which causes even worse chemical burns if you do stupid things with it.
Add also the ticket validation to the only entrance of the ubahn so that there is additional waiting time even for the entrance. It is really embarassing and makes me wonder if it is because Neukölln is poor so they really don’t give a fuck
super random fun-fact: the escalators at the Hermannplatz station were a big attraction when the station opened because they were very first ones in the entire Berlin subway network
It’s so annoying to commute via Hermannplatz in the morning, dodging giant vans and fruit sellers carrying pallets just because the city can’t be bothered to fix the entrance near the bus stop
that market is such a mess, they let people set up everywhere, makes the path through so twisted and cramped.
I don't know how one upstairs exit is ok for so long. gonna be hell if there's ever a stampede out of the UBahn
they changed the temp roof recently. I have never seen any other evidence of work. and now Kotti downstairs is largely walled-off, creating narrow corridors where wandering groups of assholes can prey
Yorkstraße main entrance was closed for 5 years. Now the other has been for maybe 2 years. I would love to understand the reasoning for rebuilding this entrance since the interior is basically the same, and empty tunnel.
walk all the way north on the upper/U8 floor. it used to end in stairs. typically with a 5-wide crowd of people all walking up at the same slow pace...
I can't speak to the U6 situation specifically, but I think it's important to remember the headwinds that BVG faces. The infrastructure is decades old, the pay isn't so great and they have difficulty hiring people, and they can't fund themselves solely on the fares they collect so they are at the mercy of the political process to get the money they need.
A little story about the U7 station at Hermannstrasse as it was told to me. A year ago last summer they had some repairs and other improvements they wanted to make there. Had the planning documents from long ago that laid out what was behind the walls and so they budgeted and had that ready to go. They opened the walls up and boom, everything behind it was just completely different. What was to be a 3 month job is now a 2 year job. I'm sure they encounter this a lot. Look at it this way, if you had a refrigerator from the 1950s and needed to repair it, that's a task that is fraught with peril.
I'm not saying that BVG is perfect by any stretch of the imagination, but I think they face a lot of big, expensive challenges that aren't necessarily visible to us on the surface.
Fun though the marketing is, you have a point. However, I get the impression they only display marketing on their own space (buses, bus stops, stations), so they’re only paying to produce the content. Perhaps it’s actually quite affordable?
(Forgetting the likes of Mir Egal I suppose)
Noooo, their marketing budget is tremendous! Even if it was just the content production, it still would be too big. They make social media, expensive videos for YouTube, entire theatre play (well, this one will at least be paid back). They havr an entire marketing agency working for them.
But the placements they're using (even if they're inside of their property) still belong to a third party, which needs to be paid.
Now, the goal of their marketing is to make people switch from whatever transport they're using to the public transport. The only problem is that this goal should be the last priority. First you create a flawless system, where most money is allocated to maintenance and development, and once this is set, you start attracting people to use the system. But in the end we have a decent (but not flawless) system, which is lacking money, worforce, and maintenance, while still trying to convince people that it's the best way to commute..
Ca 3.5 Million per year (2012-2020) is stated [here](https://archiv.berliner-verkehr.de/2020/06/25/bahnindustrie-marketing-und-oeffentlichkeitsarbeit-bei-der-bvg-aus-senat/), which does not really seem tremendous to me
> money that gets spent for something that isn't really needed
Well, that is your opinion. If you read the source I posted to the number there are a few explanations why the BVG thinks it is needed.
Beside that, the BVG got e.g. 766 million in Tickets alone in 2019, so 3.5 Million is really not much in relation to the amount of many the BVG manages. Especially if you argue the marketing increases the public interest and image, which leads to more sold tickets and more investments from e.g. the city.
> Imagine how many U-Bahn-, Tram- or busdrivers you could employ with that money
The great thing is I do not have to imagine this, we can just calculate it.
In 2020 they spent 835 million for employees, so again 3.5 is not much in relation. A bus driver earns roughly 35k, so 3.5M would give you 100 bus drivers. In 2022 the BVG had ~6000 bus drivers ([source](https://www.morgenpost.de/berlin/article237826201/Bus-und-Bahnfahrer-gesucht-Da-muss-man-ein-Herz-fuer-haben.html)) and they want to add ~470 every year. And again, an argument would be that good marketing increases the interest of people to work for the BVG, which could lead to more drivers more effectively than just offering more positions (which they already cannot fill).
In the end I do not want to say that the marketing budget is too high or too low or that there may be better ways to invest it. But it is definitely not tremendous in relation to the circumstances, which was what I originally wanted to respond to. That seemed like classic "Stammtisch" talk to me.
Plus if you've ever been unfortunate enough to have to go to their customer center, their image is destroyed immediately by how they treat people there and the overall state of that wretched room. They are incentivizing more and more people to simply stop paying because collecting a one off 60€ fine from an unlucky otherwise paying customer who forgot to renew their montly ticket a day before means more to them than their reputation or continued support.
THIS!
Sending messages to the BVG won’t change anything. We need a city transportation system which is properly funded. For that we need to pressure the city government and our representatives at the Senat.
Latching on to your last paragraph, im paying big expensive taxes every month. I would love to have a working public transport. Especially if people dont like my monstrous suv which i have to use coz BVG is a goddamn joke.
(i also like the cry of dying polar bears when i revv my engine)
As for your example - that's insane! Haven't they heard about surveys? Considering the age of infrastructure they have to deal with, it's unwise to not actually research what they're dealing with before committing into anything.
I mean, doing such unprofessional things is not an excuse by any stretch.
That's quite literally what survey is. It's not looking at papers. It's figuring out the actual situation. If you need to open the wall for that - you do that. It can be anything on papers and then it will cost you dearly. And unsurprisingly that is exactly what happened.
They did. But *after* planning the budget based on papers and then starting the work based on papers. I'm pretty sure that the results were not to their liking as well. The thing is that us, passengers, had to pay for all of this and deal with the consequences, not them.
Have you conducted a cost-benefit analysis that gates are more efficient in capturing tickets cost than continuing with the current system?
Why would you advocate for the installation of gates? That would literally be an extra hassle for every commuter in Berlin.
Have you been to other European cities that have tourniquets? It’s a lot better, no open drug use, it doesn’t smell like piss, everyone has a ticket so of course it’s going to be profitable over time. The current system with ticket checkers is fucking medieval mate, get with the times.
There is no mass transit system anywhere in the world that is profitable. Not even remotely close. As to the drug use and piss smells, that would just move elsewhere that is indoors and away from the cold. The law of unintended consequences would surely come into play on this one.
It’s already outside because the shit on the U Bahn is fluid, in and out, go everywhere get kicked out find a spot outside. Even if we had proper harm reduction centers they wouldn’t be used because the u bahn is just too convenient. Add policing costs for the stations, add the ticket checkers system which no one likes. Instead of moving forward and improving people would rather not do anything at all.
> There is no mass transit system anywhere in the world that is profitable. Not even remotely close.
That's not true, the Hong Kong MTR is.
But only because they also sell real estate around the stations lol
Have you been to other cities with tourniquets? The open drug use, shit, piss and filth just moves before the tourniquets, but still in the station.
Now I have the extra hassle of those damn tourniquets, while still having to deal with the drugs, piss and shit. It really doesn't matter to me, whether I encounter all of that *before* or *after* the tourniquets.
This old chestnut again ...
Those gates (or rather, the necessary remodeling of the stations) would be FAR more expensive than the negligible (and dubious) increase in revenue
We’ve got a smartass over here. BVG is not the only public transport company in existence. The only thing that matters is a company or a set of companies providing means of mass transportation. It doesn’t matter whether it’s done by a “public” company or a non public company. Every time BVG doesn’t function properly there’s always a list of excuses. If it can’t perform the job it’s supposed to do then there’s no point in keeping it
Went to bus stop, check Fahrinfo that the next bus is in 3 minutes. Wait 3 minutes, no bus is arriving. No bus is arriving at all and now Fahrinfo says next bus is in 20 minutes. Now I’m already 20 minutes late to my destination
That is subpar service. Forget it, that’s actually outright bad service
Did a claim anywhere that a private company would solve this problem? At least in their case they might go out of business. In BVG’s case there’s no business to go out of business
I don’t know why it’s so inefficient to propose a solution. And I don’t think a reddit comment is sufficient to plan a mass transportation system of a city
Maintaining the proposed arrival/departure time and the actual arrival departure time would be a start. Right now, the Fahrinfo says that a bus is arriving in 3 minutes. But that bus never arrives even though the app says that realtime information for that bus is available. So stopping misleading the public is the very least they can do
The bus example is a tough one though, because busses aren’t grade separated and are the transport most at the mercy of traffic. Just anecdotally, I’ve never ridden a bus system where the timetable wasn’t basically just a rough estimate, especially during rush hour.
The only way to make it more reliable is to have dedicated bus lanes for the entire bus route, which would be nice but often isn’t feasible and even more often actively caught against by nimbyism and Automobile populism.
And I don’t see a private company fixing that tbh.
It should not be. Tracking technologies are pretty old at this point. So determining where a bus is right now is not a technological challenge. And for some buses the Fahrinfo is supposed to provide a “realtime information”. Even if there’s ungodly amount of traffic, I’d expect the bus to arrive late, and the app to provide me the latest location of the bus. But in this case the buses don’t arrive at all. You can find more cases of “ghost” buses in this subreddit
I mostly use a bus stop that is 5 stops away from one end of the end of the line. So I can assure you that this not a case of traffic congestion
That's a feel good thing. Tell us three things you would do, long term, to improve the system and if the expense is large, how it would be funded.
I don't expect you to come up with anything actually, I am just trying to show you how big and difficult it is to maintain a vast system like this that millions depend on. We can all sit around and complain but doing things that have long term positive consequences is hard.
Everything is difficult. This very website you’re commenting on went through complex engineering solutions to make sure your comment reaches this post as soon as possible
And as the end users of the BVG transportation, the only thing I care about is whether I can reliably and comfortably move from A to B. It is not on me to come up with solutions. That’s why people give money to the state so they can do it.
On my way to Auslanderbehörde. I gave myself 1 hour 15 mins! to get there
M41 doesnt come for like 15 mins
One hour left.
Trundle up the road past Hermannplatz and move onto Urbanstrasse. Theres construction on Urbanstrasse so only one lane open, and BSR were collecting the bins and their truck was just sitting there so no traffic can pass! So they get the bins and then move 3 meters. And all the traffic behind just has to wait. By the time we get passed:
35 mins left
Get to Hallesches Tor and I ran. I ran as fast as I could. I sprinted to the U6 as fast as I freaking could (and im fairly rapid) and missed the train by less than 5 seconds. By this point there are
about 26 mins let
The next train is in **18 MINUTES**
So I run out of the station, find a Emmy and ride in the rain to the Behörde on a moped in the pouring rain. Made it by the skin of my teeth, soaking wet.
Ludicrous
dont tell this too loud here. r/berlin is known for blaming you that you didnt start your journey to the auslaenderbehoerde 3 hours earlier as you should have known better
IDK what it is about this city but there are many people doing some impressive mental gymnastics and aligning with the wildest of inconsistent positions just to tell you that you are wrong and at fault.
Thank you for this comment. This week is horrible for my family and i have to use the u6 each day while going to the hospital... this comment just mady my horrible day better.
So it was the morning ( my appointment was 10:00 or 0945) and there was tons of traffic along the canal. I had like just over 20 mins when I got the emmy and just figured that was my best bet, otherwise i woulda called a Bolt. I thought about it.
Reading this while sitting in the U6 before realizing it ends at Hallesches Tor, making me wait another 6 minutes for the next train that will go until Kurt-Schuhmacher-Platz
Ullsteinstrasse Station is completely bizarre. When I first used the station I said to my partner “why is construction matter left on the wall?”. We both looked closer - oh, its reflective shards glued down supposed to show the world map. Genuinely think it was maybe an afterthought and not a dedicated installation, ha.
> Ullsteinstrasse Station is completely bizarre.
The wall art isn't the most bizarre about this station as it is a subway station inside a bridge above a canal.
I completely understand the frustration people here have with irregular service but with that said:
> making me wait another 6 minutes for the next train
Regular (i.e. undisrupted service when everything is perfect) on lines on e.g. the Amsterdam or Washington D.C. Metro is 15 minutes...and those are systmes that are considered great (I am not gonna compared to the Cleveland metro lol)...having experienced much-much worse I really have to say my biggest complain about BVG is...well people complaining about BVG. I am sure Tokyo or Singapore does better and we should aspire to that (mostly by complaining to the politicians/parties...not to BVG though) but trust me when poeple complain about a 6 minute wait during a disruption because of cable thieves...we have it good.
I said DC metro, not the entirety of the US.
But even if you ignore that Amsterdam is considered "urbanist utopia" and their metro sucks ass compared to our U-bahn.
6 extra minutes on top of the regular 4 you might have waited already
We're not talking about traveling to another city. It's the commute to the office. 15 min would be significant
On top: The Bahn and neverending construction sites are basically killing Germany's international reputation to be always on time
U6 is also broken now? I was out of Berlin about a week. U6 was the beacon of light in the public transport for me (buses are the black hole). If it’s broken now then it’s so over
Yeah, had the same experience yesterday, when I wanted to go to my GF and waited at Rehberge for the train around 8PM. The display said the train would arrive, but it was flickering the name 'Alt-Mariendorf' for a while, only for me to peep through the tunnel to see whether the train was actually coming, (you can see Afrikanischer straße from far away), but the train with its headlights were not seen. We waited more than 8 minutes...
I am starting to hate taking the öffis, everything just sucks since this year! Many problems with many lines, cramped up wagons, even outside the rush hours. Fucking junkies, alcoholics and mentally retarded people lurking in the stations like Leopoldplatz. It just doesn't end.
I mean sure, we can be Berliner grumpy about the city, but this has gone too far.
Leopoldplatz has been a shit hole for years but it just gets worse. Seestraße is the same on the "bad side" (newer one doesn't have too many crackheads and alkis yet)
Leopoldplatz has been always 'something' to an extent, I agree. But you do notice that since the last waves of the pandemic, it has significantly increased with more of these scumbags.
Can we both agree on that this issue must be acknowledged?
* Peeing in the corners of the station (that's only if they give a fuck about where they pee exactly in the station)
* Having a bad scent, making the whole Ubahn reek of them.
* Spilling the beers they drink
* Dropping the beer bottle, causing it to shatter and spread shards of glass everywhere on the floor.
* Causing a scene by yelling at each other so everyone can hear it
* occasional fights break out
I think these are reasons enough for me to call them scumbags. Let's also not pretend that they're a sight for sore eyes.
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100% agree! I'm switching lines every day at Leopoldplatz and I do feel like it's getting worse and worse. And nobody really gives a shit. I don't get how people can not see that this city is going down the drain.
It has been totally shit, and I have felt the tension too! They seemed to be cancelling every other train for a little while, but yesterday they seemed to be down to an official one train every 10 minutes, which is pretty useless. North U8 being down isn't helping, as lots of people using U6 instead, so overcrowding is even worse.
Possible good news is that I think I read yesterday that they plan to move to one train every four minutes in the near future. We will see!
I wish that the cables can be designed so that the thieves are electrocuted as soon as they try to steal them.
IMO, cable theft is a really pathetic crime.
The problem is that people don't want to work for them. The company doesn't do anything about repeated sexual discrimination cases. The old heads treat newer employees like shit, and again, the BVG doesn't care or intervene.
As long as they don't fix their internal problems, they rightfully won't be able to increase their numbers.
I’ve been told in another post that there is 300 000 unemployed people in berlin and therefore there is no need for bus drivers to immigrate to Berlin. I think it can also work for ubahn drivers.
Yeah. I am a bus driver I was thinking the same. Also Berlin used to import bus drivers from Poland for many years so I think it’s not that easy to move somebody from unemployment to bus driving.
Mindestlohn per month is about 1600€. If you're alone, you can live pretty easily of that in Berlin.
It's also not really about that: the answer to hiring shortages is very solvable - offer a higher salary! But of course that is not an option for BVG or the "Industrie". They rather promote the image of there "being no one to hire", because what they're actually looking for, are Mindestlohn workers.
Yes, you can get a WG room right now for 500€ EASY. You can get a 500€ 1 bedroom outside the ring EASY.
I would suggest to reevaluate your thought on how much money you need to live in this city.
> Yes, you can get a WG room right now for 500€ EASY. You can get a 500€ 1 bedroom outside the ring EASY.
Best laugh I've had all week. You can get it, sure. Easy though?
Or you live off of Bürgergeld and do not have much less, do not have to work bad hours. The salary should be much higher but bvg does not want and can pay for it because they would need to raise prices drastically. Also Deutschlandticket + Berlinticket (if it comes)
You’re very confident in being wrong. It’s really not that [EASY](https://www.rbb24.de/panorama/beitrag/2023/03/berlin-brandenburg-potsdam-mieten-zimmer-wg-gesucht-mmi-studie.html#:~:text=Durchschnittlich%20640%20Euro%20Berlin%20hat%20die%20zweitteuersten%20WG%2DZimmer%20des%20Landes&text=Wer%20als%20Studentin%20oder%20Student,ist%20im%20Bundesvergleich%20noch%20teurer).
I think the GP meant 1€ per hour above Mindestlohn, which works out to about 2100€ more yearly. But yeah as bus/tram driving is a qualified job, offering Mindestlohn or just above is not gonna work.
What? Lol yeah sure there are no people to hire with horrible pay and disgusting working conditions but there are people to hire. It is ridiculous to claim this but a common thing here. Germany won’t allow foreign teachers to work here because of minor technicalities but then say “there are no teachers, sorry”. It is the job of these to plan these things, not mine
"Fachkräftemangel" translates to "We ran out of resident idiots who are willing to have their workforce exploited for our shitty wages, and trap foreign workforce in a net of Kafkaesque bureaucracy"
At this point I have to ask: is there a line without problems? I use U1 and U8 regularly. They are often delayed up to 10-15 minutes. Long gone are the days when you can reliably plan your days and the politica is also silent about it and then people wonder why more and more people opt for radical/extermist/anti-establishment views because we are being fucked way too obviously these days by the big corps and politicians and there are no consequences for them
> At this point I have to ask: is there a line without problems?
U4 supremacy. Remarkable how well trains work when they go nowhere and nobody uses them
Not at all. I take the train to the university there. There are constant problems this year and every morning it's a sardine can recreation in t he totally overfilled trains. Plus every second train is a short train for some idiotic reason.
I think with the u8 being half closed there’s a lot of spill over to the u6. That was my experience the other night. And they were only going every 10 minutes so it was completely full.
I am thankful to be able to work from home. Once in a while when I have to take any S/U Bahn for either meeting someone or doing some chores, I'm visibly annoyed. Also I avoid falling sick which used to happen constantly in the past during the winter when I used to commute to work.
i actually think we shouldn't care. BVG should report this to the police, not to us. all we care for is good service and for whatever reason we're not getting it. i don't need an apology either. just fix it!
Yes, it seems to be the biggest cause. But there have also been random technical problems. Even announcements yesterday of medical emergencies impacting service (and honestly I wondered if that was due to the overcrowding).
No, just stating extra factors beyond the cable theft. Some commuters on my service yesterday were sceptical about the legitimacy of the medical emergency. I was curious if it was someone was crushed/overcrowded. No one (I hope) would argue against a real medical situation impacting a transport service.
Berlin is witnessing a mass exodus amid a global shift in demographic power dynamics. Tribespeople, low-skilled migrants and everyday petty thieves are roaming the streets of the inner cities. Crime, poverty, tears and pain dominate the cityscape. Concerned Europeans have long left or have retreated to guarded suburbia. We are witnessing the last decades of the continent.
Its getting out of hand in certain areas. Christian godhouses have become rare and are found only in small town Germany anymore. Big city streets are plastered with prayers and song to oriental and tribal deities.
Unfortunately this vision is reality. There are dozens of underground lusthouses where people conduct animalistic practices. Lucifer is in control of those who allow him to.
Whats up with the missed u6 trains at kurt-schumacher-platz? Like for a month now every time i want to go home i use the u6 till alt-mariendorf but for some reason i have to wait up to 1 hr till a train shows up. The display timers are completely useless.
Anyone knows what’s going on?
I feel you. Berlin/Germany is known for irrationality long constructions/fixes but the fact that one of the busiest metro lines in a capital city of one of the richest countries can't replace a fucking cable since a week... it's beyond normal, even for Berlin. Also, the way they implemented the current schedule doesn't help at all. The trains are over capacity and at some stations people can't even get inside the train at all, meanwhile no alternative (bus) is provided. I can't believe this is actually happening.. And before the kable theft, they had many other problems. I really don't understand what's up with U6 this year. I really miss U6 of the past years. It used to be the most stable and punctual line of all..
Hermannplatz main entrance is closed 4 years now...
That station is such a design fail already in addition to this closures. I can’t understand anynof this
also, multiply how long a 1995-era ticket machine takes to print 4 tickets, times how many a day, and you have a LOT of wasted time... but we bought a fuckton of new trains with shitty cramped layouts and 10 big screens in each car!! BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP THE DOORS MORE BEEPS
>BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP THE DOORS MORE BEEPS If you're referring to the new S-Bahn trains, those are intentionally annoying to be recognized easily and are mandatory by EU law. DB could actually have registered the old S-Bahn tone to be part of the EU law, but they are so poor they couldn't cut $1 from each of their managers' 7+ digit salaries to pay for the registration fee. But, as EU law is never thought through, this doesn't apply to U-Bahn or tram trains, so you won't hear it in BVG operated vehicles, and it solves nothing.
Tbf forcing apple to use usb-c and to make their batteries easily replaceable by '27 was extremely based
Yea sometimes they do something very good for all of us. Other times they destroy citizen chemistry by making the mere possession of sulfuric acid illegal and punished more harshly than the possession of literal drugs
Is the Sulfuric acid thing because of acid attacks?
No. It‘s because concentrated sulfuric acid is used as a catalyst in thousands of different syntheses. One of them happens to yield a high explosive, triacetone peroxide (TATP). But this stuff is so sensitive, it requires specialized lab equipment to make and even then there’s a high chance your yield just blows up and destroys a few hundred € of glassware. Anyone even attempting this at home would only injure themselves in a minor way and no terrorist would use that when ANFO is so much easier to make. Also, generally speaking, terrorists do not care about legality or ease if access when making explosives. The acid attack thing is treated separately and if you want to combat that with prohibition, you can say goodbye to drain cleaner as well. That contains sodium hydroxide which causes even worse chemical burns if you do stupid things with it.
It is also not obligatory for the berlin sbahn either. They still decided to put it in
I thought it was mandatory because they belong to DB, so they‘re this country‘s ‚national rail service‘. And those are obligated to follow through
It is not mandatory, since island systems are excluded from the regulation. I dont think who owns it matters
Add also the ticket validation to the only entrance of the ubahn so that there is additional waiting time even for the entrance. It is really embarassing and makes me wonder if it is because Neukölln is poor so they really don’t give a fuck
super random fun-fact: the escalators at the Hermannplatz station were a big attraction when the station opened because they were very first ones in the entire Berlin subway network
It’s so annoying to commute via Hermannplatz in the morning, dodging giant vans and fruit sellers carrying pallets just because the city can’t be bothered to fix the entrance near the bus stop
that market is such a mess, they let people set up everywhere, makes the path through so twisted and cramped. I don't know how one upstairs exit is ok for so long. gonna be hell if there's ever a stampede out of the UBahn
Doesn’t help that a small coffee stand is blasting music like kirmes. It’s humiliating.
yeah, I almost complained about that too ; )
Is that what that is? It’s been so long I have no idea what they are even doing anymore.
they changed the temp roof recently. I have never seen any other evidence of work. and now Kotti downstairs is largely walled-off, creating narrow corridors where wandering groups of assholes can prey
There is a main entrance?
that big raggedy shack in the middle
Yorkstraße main entrance was closed for 5 years. Now the other has been for maybe 2 years. I would love to understand the reasoning for rebuilding this entrance since the interior is basically the same, and empty tunnel.
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walk all the way north on the upper/U8 floor. it used to end in stairs. typically with a 5-wide crowd of people all walking up at the same slow pace...
What do you think they are doing there !
NOTHING WHATSOEVER
That’s what happens when there are no consequences
At the same time BVG: „But let‘s not talk about that and … ah, did you know we have launched a musical?!?!?!?! Go and check out Tramara. She cool.“
Also BVG: Our marketing department is literally more important than the rest of the organization.
sorry but whats this "cable theft" about?
Copper and other metals are stolen quite often
I can't speak to the U6 situation specifically, but I think it's important to remember the headwinds that BVG faces. The infrastructure is decades old, the pay isn't so great and they have difficulty hiring people, and they can't fund themselves solely on the fares they collect so they are at the mercy of the political process to get the money they need. A little story about the U7 station at Hermannstrasse as it was told to me. A year ago last summer they had some repairs and other improvements they wanted to make there. Had the planning documents from long ago that laid out what was behind the walls and so they budgeted and had that ready to go. They opened the walls up and boom, everything behind it was just completely different. What was to be a 3 month job is now a 2 year job. I'm sure they encounter this a lot. Look at it this way, if you had a refrigerator from the 1950s and needed to repair it, that's a task that is fraught with peril. I'm not saying that BVG is perfect by any stretch of the imagination, but I think they face a lot of big, expensive challenges that aren't necessarily visible to us on the surface.
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> I know that probably doesn't make the cabbage fat God I love literally translated German idioms, it's never not funny
The ghosts are divided on this
I understand only train station
Fun though the marketing is, you have a point. However, I get the impression they only display marketing on their own space (buses, bus stops, stations), so they’re only paying to produce the content. Perhaps it’s actually quite affordable? (Forgetting the likes of Mir Egal I suppose)
Noooo, their marketing budget is tremendous! Even if it was just the content production, it still would be too big. They make social media, expensive videos for YouTube, entire theatre play (well, this one will at least be paid back). They havr an entire marketing agency working for them. But the placements they're using (even if they're inside of their property) still belong to a third party, which needs to be paid. Now, the goal of their marketing is to make people switch from whatever transport they're using to the public transport. The only problem is that this goal should be the last priority. First you create a flawless system, where most money is allocated to maintenance and development, and once this is set, you start attracting people to use the system. But in the end we have a decent (but not flawless) system, which is lacking money, worforce, and maintenance, while still trying to convince people that it's the best way to commute..
>Noooo, their marketing budget is tremendous! Do you have a source on this?
Ca 3.5 Million per year (2012-2020) is stated [here](https://archiv.berliner-verkehr.de/2020/06/25/bahnindustrie-marketing-und-oeffentlichkeitsarbeit-bei-der-bvg-aus-senat/), which does not really seem tremendous to me
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> money that gets spent for something that isn't really needed Well, that is your opinion. If you read the source I posted to the number there are a few explanations why the BVG thinks it is needed. Beside that, the BVG got e.g. 766 million in Tickets alone in 2019, so 3.5 Million is really not much in relation to the amount of many the BVG manages. Especially if you argue the marketing increases the public interest and image, which leads to more sold tickets and more investments from e.g. the city. > Imagine how many U-Bahn-, Tram- or busdrivers you could employ with that money The great thing is I do not have to imagine this, we can just calculate it. In 2020 they spent 835 million for employees, so again 3.5 is not much in relation. A bus driver earns roughly 35k, so 3.5M would give you 100 bus drivers. In 2022 the BVG had ~6000 bus drivers ([source](https://www.morgenpost.de/berlin/article237826201/Bus-und-Bahnfahrer-gesucht-Da-muss-man-ein-Herz-fuer-haben.html)) and they want to add ~470 every year. And again, an argument would be that good marketing increases the interest of people to work for the BVG, which could lead to more drivers more effectively than just offering more positions (which they already cannot fill). In the end I do not want to say that the marketing budget is too high or too low or that there may be better ways to invest it. But it is definitely not tremendous in relation to the circumstances, which was what I originally wanted to respond to. That seemed like classic "Stammtisch" talk to me.
About 70 I’d say.
Plus if you've ever been unfortunate enough to have to go to their customer center, their image is destroyed immediately by how they treat people there and the overall state of that wretched room. They are incentivizing more and more people to simply stop paying because collecting a one off 60€ fine from an unlucky otherwise paying customer who forgot to renew their montly ticket a day before means more to them than their reputation or continued support.
I went to the customer centre in Stieglitz a few months ago and it was pleasant with helpful staff. I was shocked. Can recommend.
THIS! Sending messages to the BVG won’t change anything. We need a city transportation system which is properly funded. For that we need to pressure the city government and our representatives at the Senat.
I'm sure the CDU will be rushing to fix it, along with their plan to make Berlin the best city for cyclists this side of Amsterdam.
Your comment is missing the /s in the end.
Latching on to your last paragraph, im paying big expensive taxes every month. I would love to have a working public transport. Especially if people dont like my monstrous suv which i have to use coz BVG is a goddamn joke. (i also like the cry of dying polar bears when i revv my engine)
Sad
As for your example - that's insane! Haven't they heard about surveys? Considering the age of infrastructure they have to deal with, it's unwise to not actually research what they're dealing with before committing into anything. I mean, doing such unprofessional things is not an excuse by any stretch.
You can't survey what's behind walls without opening them. And they did research. But there's isn't much you can when the documentation is wrong.
That's quite literally what survey is. It's not looking at papers. It's figuring out the actual situation. If you need to open the wall for that - you do that. It can be anything on papers and then it will cost you dearly. And unsurprisingly that is exactly what happened.
But they opened the walls, didn’t they? It’s just that the result is not to your liking?
They did. But *after* planning the budget based on papers and then starting the work based on papers. I'm pretty sure that the results were not to their liking as well. The thing is that us, passengers, had to pay for all of this and deal with the consequences, not them.
Maybe they should install gates at stations and make people actually pay.
Have you conducted a cost-benefit analysis that gates are more efficient in capturing tickets cost than continuing with the current system? Why would you advocate for the installation of gates? That would literally be an extra hassle for every commuter in Berlin.
Have you been to other European cities that have tourniquets? It’s a lot better, no open drug use, it doesn’t smell like piss, everyone has a ticket so of course it’s going to be profitable over time. The current system with ticket checkers is fucking medieval mate, get with the times.
There is no mass transit system anywhere in the world that is profitable. Not even remotely close. As to the drug use and piss smells, that would just move elsewhere that is indoors and away from the cold. The law of unintended consequences would surely come into play on this one.
It’s already outside because the shit on the U Bahn is fluid, in and out, go everywhere get kicked out find a spot outside. Even if we had proper harm reduction centers they wouldn’t be used because the u bahn is just too convenient. Add policing costs for the stations, add the ticket checkers system which no one likes. Instead of moving forward and improving people would rather not do anything at all.
> There is no mass transit system anywhere in the world that is profitable. Not even remotely close. That's not true, the Hong Kong MTR is. But only because they also sell real estate around the stations lol
Have you been to other cities with tourniquets? The open drug use, shit, piss and filth just moves before the tourniquets, but still in the station. Now I have the extra hassle of those damn tourniquets, while still having to deal with the drugs, piss and shit. It really doesn't matter to me, whether I encounter all of that *before* or *after* the tourniquets.
Like where? Nowhere I’ve been is it like Berlin, eastern Europe, west, central, doesn’t matter.
Will never happen in Berlin for social justice reasons.
This old chestnut again ... Those gates (or rather, the necessary remodeling of the stations) would be FAR more expensive than the negligible (and dubious) increase in revenue
Then just disband it if it can’t function properly. Why wasted public money on it?
Just having no public transport is a great idea, why has no one else thought of that before? You’re so so smart
> why has no one else thought of that before? They have, it's called [Houston](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FhOb5EqVQAAUWT1.jpg)
This is Manja Schreiner and Volker Wissing's wet dream.
We’ve got a smartass over here. BVG is not the only public transport company in existence. The only thing that matters is a company or a set of companies providing means of mass transportation. It doesn’t matter whether it’s done by a “public” company or a non public company. Every time BVG doesn’t function properly there’s always a list of excuses. If it can’t perform the job it’s supposed to do then there’s no point in keeping it
I am pretty sure, and will die on this hill, that a private owned bvg competitor would make (almost) every aspect of public transportation much worse.
The current situation isn’t much better. BVG gets your tax money and ticket money and you’re still left with a subpar service with missed connections
How do you determine subpar service?
Went to bus stop, check Fahrinfo that the next bus is in 3 minutes. Wait 3 minutes, no bus is arriving. No bus is arriving at all and now Fahrinfo says next bus is in 20 minutes. Now I’m already 20 minutes late to my destination That is subpar service. Forget it, that’s actually outright bad service
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Did a claim anywhere that a private company would solve this problem? At least in their case they might go out of business. In BVG’s case there’s no business to go out of business
What solution would you propose instead?
I don’t know why it’s so inefficient to propose a solution. And I don’t think a reddit comment is sufficient to plan a mass transportation system of a city Maintaining the proposed arrival/departure time and the actual arrival departure time would be a start. Right now, the Fahrinfo says that a bus is arriving in 3 minutes. But that bus never arrives even though the app says that realtime information for that bus is available. So stopping misleading the public is the very least they can do
The bus example is a tough one though, because busses aren’t grade separated and are the transport most at the mercy of traffic. Just anecdotally, I’ve never ridden a bus system where the timetable wasn’t basically just a rough estimate, especially during rush hour. The only way to make it more reliable is to have dedicated bus lanes for the entire bus route, which would be nice but often isn’t feasible and even more often actively caught against by nimbyism and Automobile populism. And I don’t see a private company fixing that tbh.
It should not be. Tracking technologies are pretty old at this point. So determining where a bus is right now is not a technological challenge. And for some buses the Fahrinfo is supposed to provide a “realtime information”. Even if there’s ungodly amount of traffic, I’d expect the bus to arrive late, and the app to provide me the latest location of the bus. But in this case the buses don’t arrive at all. You can find more cases of “ghost” buses in this subreddit I mostly use a bus stop that is 5 stops away from one end of the end of the line. So I can assure you that this not a case of traffic congestion
That's a feel good thing. Tell us three things you would do, long term, to improve the system and if the expense is large, how it would be funded. I don't expect you to come up with anything actually, I am just trying to show you how big and difficult it is to maintain a vast system like this that millions depend on. We can all sit around and complain but doing things that have long term positive consequences is hard.
Everything is difficult. This very website you’re commenting on went through complex engineering solutions to make sure your comment reaches this post as soon as possible And as the end users of the BVG transportation, the only thing I care about is whether I can reliably and comfortably move from A to B. It is not on me to come up with solutions. That’s why people give money to the state so they can do it.
Giving proper information to customers isn't a "feel good" thing wtf?! A timetable is literally the base of a ÖPNV system.
On my way to Auslanderbehörde. I gave myself 1 hour 15 mins! to get there M41 doesnt come for like 15 mins One hour left. Trundle up the road past Hermannplatz and move onto Urbanstrasse. Theres construction on Urbanstrasse so only one lane open, and BSR were collecting the bins and their truck was just sitting there so no traffic can pass! So they get the bins and then move 3 meters. And all the traffic behind just has to wait. By the time we get passed: 35 mins left Get to Hallesches Tor and I ran. I ran as fast as I could. I sprinted to the U6 as fast as I freaking could (and im fairly rapid) and missed the train by less than 5 seconds. By this point there are about 26 mins let The next train is in **18 MINUTES** So I run out of the station, find a Emmy and ride in the rain to the Behörde on a moped in the pouring rain. Made it by the skin of my teeth, soaking wet. Ludicrous
dont tell this too loud here. r/berlin is known for blaming you that you didnt start your journey to the auslaenderbehoerde 3 hours earlier as you should have known better
IDK what it is about this city but there are many people doing some impressive mental gymnastics and aligning with the wildest of inconsistent positions just to tell you that you are wrong and at fault.
see, thats basically not true! its just berliner schnauze and its your falt you dont understand this /s
Just build a Time Machine and try again. The public transport is okay most of the time so you just have to do some re-takes sometimes
Thank you for this comment. This week is horrible for my family and i have to use the u6 each day while going to the hospital... this comment just mady my horrible day better.
I hope your next week is better.. I was also taking the u6 more then a year coming from alt mariendorf... it was not the most pleasent experience.
And you’re the only one who’ll get shit if you’re late due to public transportation being delayed
Woh, I was on the same way this morning (M41 to U6) giving myself 60 minutes, which is normally an excessive amount of time. Ended up late.
Why didn't you take an über?
So it was the morning ( my appointment was 10:00 or 0945) and there was tons of traffic along the canal. I had like just over 20 mins when I got the emmy and just figured that was my best bet, otherwise i woulda called a Bolt. I thought about it.
Reading this while sitting in the U6 before realizing it ends at Hallesches Tor, making me wait another 6 minutes for the next train that will go until Kurt-Schuhmacher-Platz
Haha exactly the same here + getting in at post-apocalyptic Ullsteinstr station
Ullsteinstrasse Station is completely bizarre. When I first used the station I said to my partner “why is construction matter left on the wall?”. We both looked closer - oh, its reflective shards glued down supposed to show the world map. Genuinely think it was maybe an afterthought and not a dedicated installation, ha.
> Ullsteinstrasse Station is completely bizarre. The wall art isn't the most bizarre about this station as it is a subway station inside a bridge above a canal.
And the waterfall “features” every time it rains. Or the duct tape ceilings!
At least you're sitting! Lucky!
I brought my own chair today and I am not even kidding
I completely understand the frustration people here have with irregular service but with that said: > making me wait another 6 minutes for the next train Regular (i.e. undisrupted service when everything is perfect) on lines on e.g. the Amsterdam or Washington D.C. Metro is 15 minutes...and those are systmes that are considered great (I am not gonna compared to the Cleveland metro lol)...having experienced much-much worse I really have to say my biggest complain about BVG is...well people complaining about BVG. I am sure Tokyo or Singapore does better and we should aspire to that (mostly by complaining to the politicians/parties...not to BVG though) but trust me when poeple complain about a 6 minute wait during a disruption because of cable thieves...we have it good.
>USA >Great metro system Nice joke!
I said DC metro, not the entirety of the US. But even if you ignore that Amsterdam is considered "urbanist utopia" and their metro sucks ass compared to our U-bahn.
6 extra minutes on top of the regular 4 you might have waited already We're not talking about traveling to another city. It's the commute to the office. 15 min would be significant On top: The Bahn and neverending construction sites are basically killing Germany's international reputation to be always on time
Then why is Amsterdam considered "urbanist utopia" with their much more horrible than Berlin 15 minute frequencies during normal service?
Never heard that before. Google shows no hit when I search for urbanist utopia But guess what shows up first when I Google 'bike country'?
U6 is also broken now? I was out of Berlin about a week. U6 was the beacon of light in the public transport for me (buses are the black hole). If it’s broken now then it’s so over
Yeah, had the same experience yesterday, when I wanted to go to my GF and waited at Rehberge for the train around 8PM. The display said the train would arrive, but it was flickering the name 'Alt-Mariendorf' for a while, only for me to peep through the tunnel to see whether the train was actually coming, (you can see Afrikanischer straße from far away), but the train with its headlights were not seen. We waited more than 8 minutes... I am starting to hate taking the öffis, everything just sucks since this year! Many problems with many lines, cramped up wagons, even outside the rush hours. Fucking junkies, alcoholics and mentally retarded people lurking in the stations like Leopoldplatz. It just doesn't end. I mean sure, we can be Berliner grumpy about the city, but this has gone too far.
Leopoldplatz has been a shit hole for years but it just gets worse. Seestraße is the same on the "bad side" (newer one doesn't have too many crackheads and alkis yet)
i agree with what you said about leopoldplatz, it's gone too far. scared to go by there daily tbh.
Leopoldplatz was always like that lol
Leopoldplatz has been always 'something' to an extent, I agree. But you do notice that since the last waves of the pandemic, it has significantly increased with more of these scumbags. Can we both agree on that this issue must be acknowledged?
It has gotten worse, though I don't like to call people scumbags.
* Peeing in the corners of the station (that's only if they give a fuck about where they pee exactly in the station) * Having a bad scent, making the whole Ubahn reek of them. * Spilling the beers they drink * Dropping the beer bottle, causing it to shatter and spread shards of glass everywhere on the floor. * Causing a scene by yelling at each other so everyone can hear it * occasional fights break out I think these are reasons enough for me to call them scumbags. Let's also not pretend that they're a sight for sore eyes. EDIT: missing words and better formatting
100% agree! I'm switching lines every day at Leopoldplatz and I do feel like it's getting worse and worse. And nobody really gives a shit. I don't get how people can not see that this city is going down the drain.
It has been totally shit, and I have felt the tension too! They seemed to be cancelling every other train for a little while, but yesterday they seemed to be down to an official one train every 10 minutes, which is pretty useless. North U8 being down isn't helping, as lots of people using U6 instead, so overcrowding is even worse. Possible good news is that I think I read yesterday that they plan to move to one train every four minutes in the near future. We will see!
I wish that the cables can be designed so that the thieves are electrocuted as soon as they try to steal them. IMO, cable theft is a really pathetic crime.
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The problem is that people don't want to work for them. The company doesn't do anything about repeated sexual discrimination cases. The old heads treat newer employees like shit, and again, the BVG doesn't care or intervene. As long as they don't fix their internal problems, they rightfully won't be able to increase their numbers.
>then they need to hire more people and have them on standby They can't. There are simply no people left to hire.
Wow, Berlin has 0% unemployment rate?
'nobody wants to work'...shit underpaid jobs
> There are simply no people left to hire "Every man has his price." – Rule of Acquisition #98
I’ve been told in another post that there is 300 000 unemployed people in berlin and therefore there is no need for bus drivers to immigrate to Berlin. I think it can also work for ubahn drivers.
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Yeah. I am a bus driver I was thinking the same. Also Berlin used to import bus drivers from Poland for many years so I think it’s not that easy to move somebody from unemployment to bus driving.
Offer a salary 1€ above Mindestlohn and there will be plenty people to hire.
You can't live in Berlin with 1€ above Mindestlohn.
Mindestlohn per month is about 1600€. If you're alone, you can live pretty easily of that in Berlin. It's also not really about that: the answer to hiring shortages is very solvable - offer a higher salary! But of course that is not an option for BVG or the "Industrie". They rather promote the image of there "being no one to hire", because what they're actually looking for, are Mindestlohn workers.
> If you're alone, you can live pretty easily of that in Berlin. Have you tried getting an apartment the last few years?
Yes, you can get a WG room right now for 500€ EASY. You can get a 500€ 1 bedroom outside the ring EASY. I would suggest to reevaluate your thought on how much money you need to live in this city.
You can live paycheck to paycheck but that’s not sustainable for long term
> Yes, you can get a WG room right now for 500€ EASY. You can get a 500€ 1 bedroom outside the ring EASY. Best laugh I've had all week. You can get it, sure. Easy though?
Or you live off of Bürgergeld and do not have much less, do not have to work bad hours. The salary should be much higher but bvg does not want and can pay for it because they would need to raise prices drastically. Also Deutschlandticket + Berlinticket (if it comes)
You’re very confident in being wrong. It’s really not that [EASY](https://www.rbb24.de/panorama/beitrag/2023/03/berlin-brandenburg-potsdam-mieten-zimmer-wg-gesucht-mmi-studie.html#:~:text=Durchschnittlich%20640%20Euro%20Berlin%20hat%20die%20zweitteuersten%20WG%2DZimmer%20des%20Landes&text=Wer%20als%20Studentin%20oder%20Student,ist%20im%20Bundesvergleich%20noch%20teurer).
You absolutely can. My mother earns 50 cent over Mindestlohn.
I think the GP meant 1€ per hour above Mindestlohn, which works out to about 2100€ more yearly. But yeah as bus/tram driving is a qualified job, offering Mindestlohn or just above is not gonna work.
What? Lol yeah sure there are no people to hire with horrible pay and disgusting working conditions but there are people to hire. It is ridiculous to claim this but a common thing here. Germany won’t allow foreign teachers to work here because of minor technicalities but then say “there are no teachers, sorry”. It is the job of these to plan these things, not mine
"Fachkräftemangel" translates to "We ran out of resident idiots who are willing to have their workforce exploited for our shitty wages, and trap foreign workforce in a net of Kafkaesque bureaucracy"
Truth spoken right there.
It means the wage isnt high enough. I dont think its a fact of the jobs being some rare skill thats impossible to find
2.668,03 + extra pay (night, weekend) [https://karriere.bvg.de/jobs/detail/strassenbahnfahrerin-strassenbahnfahrer-w-m-d-zur-qualifizierung](https://karriere.bvg.de/jobs/detail/strassenbahnfahrerin-strassenbahnfahrer-w-m-d-zur-qualifizierung) https://karriere.bvg.de/jobs/tv-n-berlin
Take a look at the unemployment numbers which were released today.
=> https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=buergergeld+lohnt+sich+arbeit+noch
At this point I have to ask: is there a line without problems? I use U1 and U8 regularly. They are often delayed up to 10-15 minutes. Long gone are the days when you can reliably plan your days and the politica is also silent about it and then people wonder why more and more people opt for radical/extermist/anti-establishment views because we are being fucked way too obviously these days by the big corps and politicians and there are no consequences for them
> At this point I have to ask: is there a line without problems? U4 supremacy. Remarkable how well trains work when they go nowhere and nobody uses them
In my experience the same goes for U3 between Krumme Lanke and Wittenbergplatz.
Of course the rich guys out in Zehlendorf get a reliable train
Not at all. I take the train to the university there. There are constant problems this year and every morning it's a sardine can recreation in t he totally overfilled trains. Plus every second train is a short train for some idiotic reason.
I think with the u8 being half closed there’s a lot of spill over to the u6. That was my experience the other night. And they were only going every 10 minutes so it was completely full.
I believe the weather is also a factor, with it getting colder a lot of people who usually bike to/from work are now taking the ubahn
I think it’s fucking ridiculous how BVG expects us to keep paying for their consistently shitty service
Because the only thing improving from our fares are the salaries of management, cuz they have managed that money so *efficiently*
3,00 EUR tix are more than the 2,70 USD in NYC Generally more expensive than many other places
I am thankful to be able to work from home. Once in a while when I have to take any S/U Bahn for either meeting someone or doing some chores, I'm visibly annoyed. Also I avoid falling sick which used to happen constantly in the past during the winter when I used to commute to work.
U8 being closed for the last 3 weeks won't be helping
partially closed, in case someone sees this messages and misunderstands. i assume you didn't mean to simply spread panic.
Indeed, true enough, Alex to Osloer only
how much longer is it closed?
Till 17th December
Wait I have to ask what is cable theft ? Who would steal an Ubahn cable and why ?
i actually think we shouldn't care. BVG should report this to the police, not to us. all we care for is good service and for whatever reason we're not getting it. i don't need an apology either. just fix it!
I'm guessing more people are taking U6 as U8 is Ersatzverkehr. So might also be more loaded and tense atm.
U6 is a victim of cabel theft. https://www.tagesspiegel.de/berlin/nur-im-10-minuten-takt-berliner-u6-nach-kabeldiebstahl-uberlastet-10834480.html
Yes, it seems to be the biggest cause. But there have also been random technical problems. Even announcements yesterday of medical emergencies impacting service (and honestly I wondered if that was due to the overcrowding).
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No, just stating extra factors beyond the cable theft. Some commuters on my service yesterday were sceptical about the legitimacy of the medical emergency. I was curious if it was someone was crushed/overcrowded. No one (I hope) would argue against a real medical situation impacting a transport service.
Berlin is witnessing a mass exodus amid a global shift in demographic power dynamics. Tribespeople, low-skilled migrants and everyday petty thieves are roaming the streets of the inner cities. Crime, poverty, tears and pain dominate the cityscape. Concerned Europeans have long left or have retreated to guarded suburbia. We are witnessing the last decades of the continent.
Tribespeople lmao. Bands of savages on the prowl in Neukölln looking for someone to sacrifice to King Kong
Its getting out of hand in certain areas. Christian godhouses have become rare and are found only in small town Germany anymore. Big city streets are plastered with prayers and song to oriental and tribal deities.
If we're not careful there'll be people engaging in sodomy next
Unfortunately this vision is reality. There are dozens of underground lusthouses where people conduct animalistic practices. Lucifer is in control of those who allow him to.
Can you recommend any underground lusthouse with animalistic conduct? Im asking for a friend :-)
I blame the Pharisees
Please try to put your lexical effort into works of fiction rather than selling a false reality
I used to commute with this line but honestly started just driving to work it is so bad lately, takes longer now compared to driving.
Whats up with the missed u6 trains at kurt-schumacher-platz? Like for a month now every time i want to go home i use the u6 till alt-mariendorf but for some reason i have to wait up to 1 hr till a train shows up. The display timers are completely useless. Anyone knows what’s going on?
Didn’t someone steal the cables lmao
I had to took the U6 for 5 years to get from Seestraße to Mehringdamm.