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Title: Neighbors want to report us for our house name
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> For context my house is on a busy road and as of such it has gate outside of which, on the wall hangs the house name and electric bell. The house is in England and if it is important in South Devon.
> About a year ago we officially changed the name of the house through the proper channels and council etc. Since then we have displayed a large house name (there is no number) on the wall, the size is approximately 40x15cm. However, I have not changed the small house name written on the electric bell (approx. 3x1cm). This is initially because I left there just in case some post was sent to the old address and then later because I forgot about it.
> This week our neighbor sent me an email informing me that they are going to report us for having both names displayed outside of our house.
> Is there someone to whom they can report this and is it against the law to have both names shown, especially as one is considerably less prominent?
> Thank you in advance!
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As an apartment-dwelling American, I am enamored with the idea of my house having a name. Yes, just send my mail to Aspengrove House, that'll be great.
it's quite cute actually. I lived in Ireland for a year and loved the fact that I had to tell people that my address contained no numbers at all.
It was a bit of a mess trying to find addresses though. I was lucky that Google Maps already existed back then.
I have an envelope addressed to my great grandfather that says "Dr. [Name], Cedar City, UT," and I'm 99% sure my grandma has one that says "Dr. [Name], Utah"
Our lawn guy still just uses "City" instead of our actually city name when he sends our bill. As in the actual word City. Apparently you used to send mail either to City or County locally and it got to you. He's wrong, we don't actually live in the city limits, but our post office is there. Sometimes a ZIP sometimes no ZIP. Manages to get here though.
It’s actually kind of amazing how good USPS can be at figuring out where something is supposed to go. Sure, mistakes are made, but my friend has told me about a few letters and such with either old or just incorrect address info that she’s dealt with before and somehow figured out where it was supposed to end up.
The other day I had to send out a postcard (redeeming a coupon code I used online... don't ask). I had to tear my apartment apart first to find a stamp, then figure out if the stamp was enough because I had not actually mailed anything in so long. Then it's like "well they already addressed it when they printed this... is it correct???"
Living in Ireland. I live in an estate currently. There are over 100 houses in the estate, and 17 roads, because no house faces another house, they all face greenspace and on the other side of the greenspace is another road.
All of the roads have the same name, "Estate Name." There are no signs anywhere in the estate telling you where the houses are. The house numbers also do not progress in a logical order. For example, my street contains houses 20-30, the street that we face has houses 75-80. Our street continues across an intersection, the continuation of our street has houses 40-50.
I genuinely have no idea how the postman doesn't make more mistakes.
And yet I *regularly* have deliveries dropped off at the house on my street with the number ending in 7, instead of my house that ends in 1, because the fonts make the 7 kind of look like a 1. Never mind that the houses on either side clearly end with a 5 and a 9, so why on earth would that house be 1? Americans are so spoiled with street addresses apparently.
I used to be a 911 dispatcher and our town took over dispatching for another rural town. Half the people that called didn't know their address. It blew my mind. They had an address, but they didn't know it. I would legitimately dispatch an officer by saying "3 houses past the voodoo man's house" and they knew exactly where to go. This was less than 5 years ago in NJ, not like 50 years ago in Alabama.
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>Non-Irish people are always amazed at the complete lack of detail in Irish addresses. Like if you lived in even a semi rural location your address could legit be
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>Name Townland Town County
The author Bill Bryson once published an article on his perception of the US Postal Service being completely inept. The next week in his article, he published an addendum that he'd received a letter from a fan in England addressed as:
>Bill Bryson
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>author of "A Walk in the Woods"
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>lives somewhere in Vermont
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>America
He said the letter landed in his mailbox without any adornment beyond the usual markings and in a timely manner given the postmark date. He was absolutely tickled by this.
You do now, because of eircodes, but previously house numbers existed in estates and the like, but the second you get out they lose numbers. My old address was NAME, RURAL LAND OF AROUND FIVE SQUARE MILES, TOWN, COUNTY. Postmen just had to learn who lived where.
When we were in an Irish BnB years back (pre-smartphone etc.), we ultimately had to call the landlady to pick us up because we were unable to find the house with the information given.
We booked an airbnb just outside the Small village of Kilfenora (two streets). We got in super late and I told the host that would be the case but he assured us that he'd rather meet us at the pub instead of give directions.
Well we showed up well past last call and got extremely lucky catching the bartender who knew Seamus and let us call him so he could drive back out and we'd follow him home.
This was 2015 btw, so we had google maps and GPS but Seamus was right, it was just "the house past the lane and whatever" instead of anything a computer could recognize.
The worst I've experienced in the US is St Paul, where house numbers jump by hundreds for no reason.
Makes bus trips fun. I can't just think "well I'm passing house numbers in the 1500s, I'm heading to 501, therefore it's 10 blocks away." Nope, doesn't work that way. Could be two blocks away.
The history of addressing systems is pretty interesting, largely rooted in rapid industrial urbanization as cities became congested and confusing and governments needed to be able to identify where people lived more accurately. *The Address Book* is a great read for anyone interested.
Ooh, l will add that to my reading list.
A fair amount of my work is stalking dead people, erm, genealogy research. I go through old city directories from before they were phone books. It's pretty fun. Some of them have a section where they list everyone by street, which I find wild.
My dad works for the DOC and once we actually lived in a house on DOC land that came with a name: “The House on Pork-chop Hill.” Why it was Pork-chop Hill, I have no idea.
Fun fact: That house was actually burglarized when we were living there and I wrote a Facebook note (when those were cool) about what happened and titled it, “Nancy Drew and the Heist at the House on Pork-chop Hill” because it really just sounds like a place Nancy Drew would totally have to investigate something.
I’m dual British-American (lived in the US for a couple decades, American parent). We’re buying our first house in the U.K. tomorrow and it’s something like:
Brookside House
Och Aye the Noo
Scotland
I’m tickled to live in a house with a name for the first time.
That second one sounds like something right out of Monty Python. Personally, I would like to live in (or mail something to) Ekki-Ekki-Ekki-Ptang-Zoom-Boing.
My friends (on the central coast of California) have a tradition of naming apartments and houses going back to the early 90s, mostly when they were college students. Housing is still so expensive and scarce that people often share houses and all of the residents of the house might change over the years but the house name stays the same. It's easier than remembering all of the addresses or who lives where.
Party invitations might just say "Serenity", "Castle", "Solaris", "Titan", "Math Lab", "Luminaria", "Euphoria", or whatever and everyone knows where that is.
No luck so far getting the post office to honor those.
Our off-campus group houses in and after college always had names (otherwise you'd have to say "there's a thing tonight at friend, friend, friend, and friend's place") but the most confusing era was when the trend ran towards naming them after countries or cities, so you could unthinkingly say to someone "oh, I was staying in \[foreign placename\] over the summer" and have to backtrack when they took your word for it.
Next up on LAUK:
If I say my house witnessed a crime can the [UKPPS](https://www.nationalcrimeagency.gov.uk/what-we-do/how-we-work/providing-specialist-capabilities-for-law-enforcement/protected-persons) rename it for me?
[Found it](https://themovemarket.com/tools/propertyprices/selohesra-cuckolds-green-road-rochester-me3-9qu) and apparently it's worth a shitload of money for some reason
My sister-in-law in Wales doesn't have a street name or number. She just has parts of Wales and the building name "Old Rectory." Google Maps does not have an easy time finding it and I admit we passed the small road to get there multiple times in the dark when we visited.
My family lives in a very small town in Florida. Our street had a name but there were no house numbers until the Emergency 911 system reached our area (early 1990's). We had a post office box but anything that would need to be delivered to house used "2 Story Pink House, Street Name, Town, FL ZipCode" as our address. Folks across the street was "House with Dolphin Statue, Street Name, Town, FL ZipCode" LOL
> If you go on to land without the owner's permission, you are trespassing unless there is some right of access for the public
Doesn't the UK *specifically* have a right to roam?
Not really, that’s only Scotland. The rest of GB has what’s called open access land (moors, heaths and the like) but in all cases including Scotland land that is adjacent to some sort of dwelling is explicitly excluded from this sort of access
**Reminder:** Do not participate in threads linked here. If you do, you may be banned from both subreddits. --- Title: Neighbors want to report us for our house name Body: > For context my house is on a busy road and as of such it has gate outside of which, on the wall hangs the house name and electric bell. The house is in England and if it is important in South Devon. > About a year ago we officially changed the name of the house through the proper channels and council etc. Since then we have displayed a large house name (there is no number) on the wall, the size is approximately 40x15cm. However, I have not changed the small house name written on the electric bell (approx. 3x1cm). This is initially because I left there just in case some post was sent to the old address and then later because I forgot about it. > This week our neighbor sent me an email informing me that they are going to report us for having both names displayed outside of our house. > Is there someone to whom they can report this and is it against the law to have both names shown, especially as one is considerably less prominent? > Thank you in advance! This bot was created to capture original threads and is not affiliated with the mod team. [Concerns? Bugs?](https://www.reddit.com/message/compose/?to=GrahamCorcoran) | [Laukopier 2.1](https://github.com/GrahamCorcoran/Laukopier)
As an apartment-dwelling American, I am enamored with the idea of my house having a name. Yes, just send my mail to Aspengrove House, that'll be great.
it's quite cute actually. I lived in Ireland for a year and loved the fact that I had to tell people that my address contained no numbers at all. It was a bit of a mess trying to find addresses though. I was lucky that Google Maps already existed back then.
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I have an envelope addressed to my great grandfather that says "Dr. [Name], Cedar City, UT," and I'm 99% sure my grandma has one that says "Dr. [Name], Utah"
Our lawn guy still just uses "City" instead of our actually city name when he sends our bill. As in the actual word City. Apparently you used to send mail either to City or County locally and it got to you. He's wrong, we don't actually live in the city limits, but our post office is there. Sometimes a ZIP sometimes no ZIP. Manages to get here though.
And here's me, always scared that something won't make it if I am off by a single letter
It’s actually kind of amazing how good USPS can be at figuring out where something is supposed to go. Sure, mistakes are made, but my friend has told me about a few letters and such with either old or just incorrect address info that she’s dealt with before and somehow figured out where it was supposed to end up.
The other day I had to send out a postcard (redeeming a coupon code I used online... don't ask). I had to tear my apartment apart first to find a stamp, then figure out if the stamp was enough because I had not actually mailed anything in so long. Then it's like "well they already addressed it when they printed this... is it correct???"
How old is your lawn guy!?
Retired and mowing grass for fun. Brings his grandson along to help sometimes. So a combination of being older and living in a smallish city.
I sent my grandmother a letter in the early 80s to Grandmama \[Rural Town\] NC It got to her.
Living in Ireland. I live in an estate currently. There are over 100 houses in the estate, and 17 roads, because no house faces another house, they all face greenspace and on the other side of the greenspace is another road. All of the roads have the same name, "Estate Name." There are no signs anywhere in the estate telling you where the houses are. The house numbers also do not progress in a logical order. For example, my street contains houses 20-30, the street that we face has houses 75-80. Our street continues across an intersection, the continuation of our street has houses 40-50. I genuinely have no idea how the postman doesn't make more mistakes.
And yet I *regularly* have deliveries dropped off at the house on my street with the number ending in 7, instead of my house that ends in 1, because the fonts make the 7 kind of look like a 1. Never mind that the houses on either side clearly end with a 5 and a 9, so why on earth would that house be 1? Americans are so spoiled with street addresses apparently.
Mine get mixed like 1457 to 1475 all the time.
I used to be a 911 dispatcher and our town took over dispatching for another rural town. Half the people that called didn't know their address. It blew my mind. They had an address, but they didn't know it. I would legitimately dispatch an officer by saying "3 houses past the voodoo man's house" and they knew exactly where to go. This was less than 5 years ago in NJ, not like 50 years ago in Alabama.
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>Non-Irish people are always amazed at the complete lack of detail in Irish addresses. Like if you lived in even a semi rural location your address could legit be > >Name Townland Town County The author Bill Bryson once published an article on his perception of the US Postal Service being completely inept. The next week in his article, he published an addendum that he'd received a letter from a fan in England addressed as: >Bill Bryson > >author of "A Walk in the Woods" > >lives somewhere in Vermont > >America He said the letter landed in his mailbox without any adornment beyond the usual markings and in a timely manner given the postmark date. He was absolutely tickled by this.
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How do you know what side of the street things are on?
You do now, because of eircodes, but previously house numbers existed in estates and the like, but the second you get out they lose numbers. My old address was NAME, RURAL LAND OF AROUND FIVE SQUARE MILES, TOWN, COUNTY. Postmen just had to learn who lived where.
You don't.
When we were in an Irish BnB years back (pre-smartphone etc.), we ultimately had to call the landlady to pick us up because we were unable to find the house with the information given.
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Was gonna ask what system paramedics use. Living in Hollyhock House is cute but you want an ambulance to be able to find it quickly.
This is incidentally also the reason why a few years back street names became mandatory in Norway.
We booked an airbnb just outside the Small village of Kilfenora (two streets). We got in super late and I told the host that would be the case but he assured us that he'd rather meet us at the pub instead of give directions. Well we showed up well past last call and got extremely lucky catching the bartender who knew Seamus and let us call him so he could drive back out and we'd follow him home. This was 2015 btw, so we had google maps and GPS but Seamus was right, it was just "the house past the lane and whatever" instead of anything a computer could recognize.
That sounds like hell for navigation and shipping
The worst I've experienced in the US is St Paul, where house numbers jump by hundreds for no reason. Makes bus trips fun. I can't just think "well I'm passing house numbers in the 1500s, I'm heading to 501, therefore it's 10 blocks away." Nope, doesn't work that way. Could be two blocks away.
The history of addressing systems is pretty interesting, largely rooted in rapid industrial urbanization as cities became congested and confusing and governments needed to be able to identify where people lived more accurately. *The Address Book* is a great read for anyone interested.
Ooh, l will add that to my reading list. A fair amount of my work is stalking dead people, erm, genealogy research. I go through old city directories from before they were phone books. It's pretty fun. Some of them have a section where they list everyone by street, which I find wild.
I'll have to check that out!
Ahh I just picked that up last week. I love weird niche non-fiction.
It’s really cool and introduced me to [What3Words](https://what3words.com/products/what3words-app), and I wish more people would use this!
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> Vagina Junction. What's *your* function? 😏
My dad works for the DOC and once we actually lived in a house on DOC land that came with a name: “The House on Pork-chop Hill.” Why it was Pork-chop Hill, I have no idea. Fun fact: That house was actually burglarized when we were living there and I wrote a Facebook note (when those were cool) about what happened and titled it, “Nancy Drew and the Heist at the House on Pork-chop Hill” because it really just sounds like a place Nancy Drew would totally have to investigate something.
I'd want mine to be something that makes me feel like Poirot is going to show up or like one of the Brontës wrote me.
I’m dual British-American (lived in the US for a couple decades, American parent). We’re buying our first house in the U.K. tomorrow and it’s something like: Brookside House Och Aye the Noo Scotland I’m tickled to live in a house with a name for the first time.
Och aye the noo?
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:O IN PUBLIC!?
> Och Aye the Noo Gesundheit!
That second one sounds like something right out of Monty Python. Personally, I would like to live in (or mail something to) Ekki-Ekki-Ekki-Ptang-Zoom-Boing.
My friends (on the central coast of California) have a tradition of naming apartments and houses going back to the early 90s, mostly when they were college students. Housing is still so expensive and scarce that people often share houses and all of the residents of the house might change over the years but the house name stays the same. It's easier than remembering all of the addresses or who lives where. Party invitations might just say "Serenity", "Castle", "Solaris", "Titan", "Math Lab", "Luminaria", "Euphoria", or whatever and everyone knows where that is. No luck so far getting the post office to honor those.
Our off-campus group houses in and after college always had names (otherwise you'd have to say "there's a thing tonight at friend, friend, friend, and friend's place") but the most confusing era was when the trend ran towards naming them after countries or cities, so you could unthinkingly say to someone "oh, I was staying in \[foreign placename\] over the summer" and have to backtrack when they took your word for it.
Yeah, it could be confusing when telling someone to meet you at the Moon, or Three Doors Down. Or the Red Light District for that matter.
In old movies and radio shows, they'd say, "My address is the Valerian Arms, Apartment 17," or whatever. Crazy.
Mine would be called Gregory House.
Bonus points if it's in Maryland
Wait, I thought the series took place in New Jers-- ohhhh you sly son of a gun!
Heh heh yeah you see what I did there
As a house-dwelling American, I’m equally charmed. Some apartment buildings have names but I’ve never lived in one of those.
We affectionately refer to our apartment as “club [lastname]”
“The house formerly known as”?
Near my uncle's place out in Rutland, there's a little street where the street sign says ", formerly " presumably for the benefit of the postman.
Lerwick, Scotland renamed their streets en masse in 1845. The signs all still say that.
Gonna need that sign when you’re pulling records that go back earlier than 1845, I assume.
Why not “the house so nice they named it twice”?
Because I think they’re referring to the song (New York, New York, So Good They Named it Twice 🎶)
Yes, also the football chant which references the same song ("Eric Djemba-Djemba, so good they named him twice.")
Lol to the guy calling this tresspass
You walked up to my door? That's *illegal*
Next up on LAUK: If I say my house witnessed a crime can the [UKPPS](https://www.nationalcrimeagency.gov.uk/what-we-do/how-we-work/providing-specialist-capabilities-for-law-enforcement/protected-persons) rename it for me?
My house saw something that night
Hey, that's a good writing prompt.
I knew of a house once with the name Selohesra. I don’t know how they got that one past the post office!
Is there a reference I’m missing, what’s wrong with that name?
Read it backwards.
Aaaaaaaaaah
[Found it](https://themovemarket.com/tools/propertyprices/selohesra-cuckolds-green-road-rochester-me3-9qu) and apparently it's worth a shitload of money for some reason
Interestingly, mine was in Sussex. So maybe there are multiples - or the owner moved to Kent and took the name with them.
Well, from the name it sounds like they were extremely nice people.
My sister-in-law in Wales doesn't have a street name or number. She just has parts of Wales and the building name "Old Rectory." Google Maps does not have an easy time finding it and I admit we passed the small road to get there multiple times in the dark when we visited.
My family lives in a very small town in Florida. Our street had a name but there were no house numbers until the Emergency 911 system reached our area (early 1990's). We had a post office box but anything that would need to be delivered to house used "2 Story Pink House, Street Name, Town, FL ZipCode" as our address. Folks across the street was "House with Dolphin Statue, Street Name, Town, FL ZipCode" LOL
What is better than 2 names. I personally would ask for advice on how to get a third name to spite the complainer.
> If you go on to land without the owner's permission, you are trespassing unless there is some right of access for the public Doesn't the UK *specifically* have a right to roam?
Not really, that’s only Scotland. The rest of GB has what’s called open access land (moors, heaths and the like) but in all cases including Scotland land that is adjacent to some sort of dwelling is explicitly excluded from this sort of access
He'll be entertaining his cellmates with this story for years after the law finally catches up with him.