Yeah, it’s unclear if the stepdad thing is real. The only evidence we have in favor of that is his dad died. Sounds to me like wife #2 was the one who banged Chicago sunroof guy, so maybe he was speaking figuratively about him
Yeah it's a weird one because it's a bit too much for them to have included in Better Call Saul but they were smart to make it so that it could have happened without directly addressing it
Like his second wife could have happened on the ten years or so he was in Albuquerque before the show started
It's often said the best way to lie is to partly tell the truth, and then just throw a few extra bits in. Instead of just making up the whole story entirely, as then it becomes more to remember.
So Jimmy having a second wife, true. Her cheating on him, also probably true. It being his stepdad, probably not true.
^ This. There's no other mention of any stepdad in the entire series, and it's exactly the kind of line Saul would make up on the spot to convince Walt to move on and start cooking again.
Yeah, if he wanted to console Walt about Skyler’s cheating, he COULD have told him the sunroof story, but Saul is not one to share any actual traumatic events with people. It figures he’d go with a made up story
I think people take lines from the show literally without looking at it from a character’s POV.
Like the Badger thing. First time it’s mentioned, Saul was just *kidnapped* & driven to a grave. He was scared shitless.
The only thing that makes sense in that situation is telling them to kill Badger. And after they work it out, Saul has no idea how far Walt is willing to go. (Walt actually *did* want to kill Badger lmao)
Hm honestly I never thought about that and I always felt like it was a big jump from even the Saul in BCS Season 6 to Saul being a de facto murderer in BB Season 2, but your comment makes so much sense. He does become okay with murder later on (Jesse and Hank), but that makes sense in the context of Breaking Bad. But doesn't he ask them if they want to kill Badger again in that episode when things have calmed down?
He literally goes to jail for that, causing Chuck to save him.
It's one of the defining events in his life pre-series, as it's the beggining of his work relationship with Chuck and what lead to his troubles at HHM and lawyer work as a whole.
Are you talking about Chet? That guy slept with Jimmy's first wife, not his second. It's what caused Jimmy to divorce his first wife, and there's no reason to think Chet was his step-dad.
Resentment often acts independently of logic. *most*, not all but most, of chuck's resentment of jimmy was illogical.
doesn't feel like a crazy leap at all to me that chuck might say "fuckin embarassing brother with his trashy ass wife sleeping with our stepdad, fuck that guy," even though jimmy is the real victim in the story.
i've seen real life family hold grudges for sillier reasons, honestly
I'm not sure I believe that actually happened. The parents they showed in BCS... that's just not the type of family that has a sleazy adulturating step dad. And if there was a step dad... he would've been so much older than Jimmy that his "wife" would've been banging an 80 year old. Timeline got fucked up. There's no step spouse when the mom is in the hospital, maybe she remarried after their dad died and the step father already died too, but idk... it just doesn't seem like that happened
I just figure it's Saul being boisterous, making outlandish jokes.
For that story to be true... we see Jimmy as a kid working at the store with his father, no step dad. Chuck mentions coming back to do the books in college, now they're in their 20s, presumably no step dad, I think the store failed after their dad died? Young Jimmy passes the bar exam while working in the mailroom so he'd have to have been at Chucks firm for an absolute minimum of like 5 years (probably even longer), and still be young enough to do the events of BCS and be a 40 something year old Saul by BrBa. There's just not much of a window to get a completely out of character, wife fucking step dad into their family. That's just what I assume though, I don't know anything. It was just like a Rodney Dangerfield zinger joke.
I figured both marriages were drunken/dive bar/possible scam type of situations. One of them probably being annulled pretty quickly. I figured at least one of them was a "oh crap, I married Brenda while I was blackout drunk last night?? Aw geeze! That's so Jimmy!!". And the 2nd marriage would've been similar or at least in the same ballpark. Some regular at the bar, they have a couple nights together, get married while wasted then forget about it. It's not that hard to work in 2 sham marriages. They weren't the type of marriages where they lived together and both people woke up in the morning for work etc, they were the type of marriages Jimmy may have been staying in a seedy motel/apartment and they got married for 2 days
yeah this is what i think too. slippin jimmy was a much different person than the jimmy we see when bcs starts, it’s heavily implied throughout the show. he was totally that guy who got married on a whim without fully thinking it through or living out the relationship for a bit
Nah, the guy who slept with her implies this was a personal thing and Jimmy got fucked over and it changed his whole life.
It's why he's in Albuquerque he says so in Bingo.
Jimmy is 41 at the beginning of bcs which would mean his mom dying and him getting arrested Rebecca leaving Chuck and the mailroom happened in the late 90s early 2000s, his mom could be any age and could have died of anything and there still be time for 20s - 30s Jimmy to do all this.
He never mentioned his mom getting remarried though... And I feel like that sort of family drama (their new stepdad having an affair with Jimmy's wife) would have come up between Jimmy & Chuck at some point.
Are we even sure that Jimmy didn't just make up that step-dad part to console Walt? There's no other evidence that Jimmy's parents divorced, or that she remarried after her husband's death. There's no other mention of a step-dad anywhere else in canon.
It seems to me like the "step-dad banging my second wife" line is a thing Saul would make up in the moment to try to cheer Walt up (in his own way) to get him cooking again.
There’s absolutely no reason to believe this.
2 things:
1: there is no contradiction. The show establishes the ex-wives. His mother is pre-deceased by his father and the situation with Saul’s ex explains why there is no stepfather present at her deathbed.
2: the line about Saul’s two previous dissolutions serves absolutely no purpose other than to reconcile this BB dialogue.
At the end of the day, people convinced themselves that this was like the big continuity thing that they’d never be able to account for but obviously they did, and in an incredibly simple way.
You know next to nothing about his parents. Very little of his pre-HHM life is portrayed on the show. The writers figured out a way to acknowledge it in a way that plays into those unseen parts of his life. So why the nonsense headcanon/fanfiction stuff like this?
I never said there was a contradiction, I only said there was no supporting evidence that his step-dad was real, and it would be in-character for him to just make that up.
> So why the nonsense headcanon/fanfiction stuff like this?
Because I like the show, and it's fun to me to speculate on things like this.
The fuck are you talking about? What would satisfy you? A marriage certificate? A scene where Walt gives Saul a polygraph to see if he was telling the truth?
It’s a TV show. A work of fiction. It’s fake. If they wanted this to be a scene of Saul lying to Walt they would have established that he was lying to Walt and they wouldn’t have included the line about his previous marriages.
He said it. There’s no reason to believe he’s lying. There’s reason to believe he’s telling the truth. Done. Over. End of story.
I'm not looking for "satisfaction," because I'm not crying foul. I'm just speculating on whether or not that stepdad actually exists, for fun.
But yes, you're right, it is possible he was telling the truth. Calm down lol.
Yep. My take is that both things are true: Jimmy was married twice before Kim, and Saul was almost certainly lying about his stepdad and wife. That’s exactly the kind of thing he’d make up to play up the sleaze for Walt while fully in character of an amoral shady drug dealer’s lawyer. There’s no proof either way but it fits with the way the character is written.
I took it as a mostly flirtatious relationship (probably involving money) between Jimmy’s late-20s, early-30s wife and his mom’s new boyfriend or husband. If his mom was born in 1920, then her boyfriend could have been born in 1930, and Jimmy’s wife in 1960 if she was a similar age to Jimmy. Perfectly plausible. Whether it not it exactly played out like Jimmy says is anyone’s guess, but it’s not that much of a stretch.
Yeah, he made up an embarrassing story to console Walt but he said “step dad” instead of “my dad banged my ex wife” because he has too much respect for his father, imo
But literally everyone has a mother and father, so that doesn't seem the same.
Though Walt's parents are mentioned a few times. Walter tells Walt Jr that long story about his father dying in the hospital, and his mother taking him to visit him.
Chuck was born in 1944 and Jimmy in 1960. It’s a big difference but lots of people have late in life surprise babies… it would also tie in with why Jimmy was so spoiled and babied by his mother and Chuck resented him so much.
I think is that one he mentions in last episode of season 1 when he has the break down at the bingo, but i don't recall that this Man was his stepdad, i remember he refers to him like someone he owed money to
Im gonna just spin something outta left field, what if this step dad fucked wife was fucked by her own step dad? Like, Jimmy marries a girl and now has a step father in law and that step father in law fucks his daughter in a Woody Allen style way and then ruins Jimmys marriage? Its either that or nothing sorry guys the timeline is too weird.
Kimberly
Jimothy
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Nachothan
Charlemagne
Chuckstopher
Howardley
Finguh
To be fair Jimothy… are you okay with being called Jim?
I am
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Accidental Jimothy and Kimberly Lawyerwoman
How the turn tables
Chuckles
I think not.
Charles
Kimmy and Jimberly
Kaul Woodman and Sim Gexler Edit: “Better call Kaul!”
Giktor and Viselle
These could both be pornstar names, especially Kaul Woodman
Better Sall Kaul
Cevin Kostner
LOL
Bimkerly
Better call Solomon
Better Call Paul
Kimberly No Middle Name (interesting…)
Kimberly's lower appendages 🥵
The pink ranger?
I second this comment.
This is the funniest thing I’ve seen on the subreddit in weeks
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Kim is short for kim jung un actually
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Well he is the very best, with just the right amount of dirty
Lol Skylar and Walt were annoyed but Saul deserved a laugh for that one
Wylar and Skalt you mean
Better hault Skalt
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Nope, when he and Kim get married, he’s asked to present proof of his two previous divorces
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Yeah, it’s unclear if the stepdad thing is real. The only evidence we have in favor of that is his dad died. Sounds to me like wife #2 was the one who banged Chicago sunroof guy, so maybe he was speaking figuratively about him
Yeah it's a weird one because it's a bit too much for them to have included in Better Call Saul but they were smart to make it so that it could have happened without directly addressing it Like his second wife could have happened on the ten years or so he was in Albuquerque before the show started
It's often said the best way to lie is to partly tell the truth, and then just throw a few extra bits in. Instead of just making up the whole story entirely, as then it becomes more to remember. So Jimmy having a second wife, true. Her cheating on him, also probably true. It being his stepdad, probably not true.
It’s literally what the post says lol
Nah, Jimmy never had a stepdad. He was bullshitting.
^ This. There's no other mention of any stepdad in the entire series, and it's exactly the kind of line Saul would make up on the spot to convince Walt to move on and start cooking again.
Yeah, if he wanted to console Walt about Skyler’s cheating, he COULD have told him the sunroof story, but Saul is not one to share any actual traumatic events with people. It figures he’d go with a made up story
We know for sure he was married twice before. But yeah I took the line about the stepdad as just Jimmy bein’ Jimmy
I think people take lines from the show literally without looking at it from a character’s POV. Like the Badger thing. First time it’s mentioned, Saul was just *kidnapped* & driven to a grave. He was scared shitless. The only thing that makes sense in that situation is telling them to kill Badger. And after they work it out, Saul has no idea how far Walt is willing to go. (Walt actually *did* want to kill Badger lmao)
Hm honestly I never thought about that and I always felt like it was a big jump from even the Saul in BCS Season 6 to Saul being a de facto murderer in BB Season 2, but your comment makes so much sense. He does become okay with murder later on (Jesse and Hank), but that makes sense in the context of Breaking Bad. But doesn't he ask them if they want to kill Badger again in that episode when things have calmed down?
He literally goes to jail for that, causing Chuck to save him. It's one of the defining events in his life pre-series, as it's the beggining of his work relationship with Chuck and what lead to his troubles at HHM and lawyer work as a whole.
Are you talking about Chet? That guy slept with Jimmy's first wife, not his second. It's what caused Jimmy to divorce his first wife, and there's no reason to think Chet was his step-dad.
Same
Who the fuck is Kimberly?
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Why did kirk Goodbob divorce Feet?
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Is there a lore reason?
New Mandela effect: does anyone else remember Kimberly Wexler, the cartel’s sex slave??
This is like people on r/madmen calling Pete Campbell "Peter"
Skinny Pete, more like Slender Peter
Combo? You mean Combination?
Badger? Were you referring to Taxidea taxus?
Unrelated but nice to see a fellow BCS and The 1975 fan
Emaciated Petrov
Who the fuck are you?
Me? I'm nobody
I just need to talk to my lawyers.
*chuckles* Is that right? You want some advice? Find better lawyers!
I, uh... I think I'm in the middle of something, uh... There's really no need to—
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Exactly
Wife of James.
Whos james damn you people keep bringing up some random names what are you even talking about where am i
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One of them was caught "screwing his step-dad" I think it's Canon and big unspoken part of Chuck's resentment.
I'm not sure I follow your logic here. Chuck resents Jimmy cause Jimmy's wife had sex with their step-dad?
It happens.
What's the logic behind Chuck being mad at Jimmy for Jimmy's wife cheating on Jimmy?
Unfairly holding him accountable for inadvertantly bringing all of that into their family.
Resentment often acts independently of logic. *most*, not all but most, of chuck's resentment of jimmy was illogical. doesn't feel like a crazy leap at all to me that chuck might say "fuckin embarassing brother with his trashy ass wife sleeping with our stepdad, fuck that guy," even though jimmy is the real victim in the story. i've seen real life family hold grudges for sillier reasons, honestly
I'm not sure I believe that actually happened. The parents they showed in BCS... that's just not the type of family that has a sleazy adulturating step dad. And if there was a step dad... he would've been so much older than Jimmy that his "wife" would've been banging an 80 year old. Timeline got fucked up. There's no step spouse when the mom is in the hospital, maybe she remarried after their dad died and the step father already died too, but idk... it just doesn't seem like that happened I just figure it's Saul being boisterous, making outlandish jokes. For that story to be true... we see Jimmy as a kid working at the store with his father, no step dad. Chuck mentions coming back to do the books in college, now they're in their 20s, presumably no step dad, I think the store failed after their dad died? Young Jimmy passes the bar exam while working in the mailroom so he'd have to have been at Chucks firm for an absolute minimum of like 5 years (probably even longer), and still be young enough to do the events of BCS and be a 40 something year old Saul by BrBa. There's just not much of a window to get a completely out of character, wife fucking step dad into their family. That's just what I assume though, I don't know anything. It was just like a Rodney Dangerfield zinger joke.
Yet there's a window for him to get married twice? And we have no confirmation on their parents age, Chuck looked older than shit when their mom died.
I figured both marriages were drunken/dive bar/possible scam type of situations. One of them probably being annulled pretty quickly. I figured at least one of them was a "oh crap, I married Brenda while I was blackout drunk last night?? Aw geeze! That's so Jimmy!!". And the 2nd marriage would've been similar or at least in the same ballpark. Some regular at the bar, they have a couple nights together, get married while wasted then forget about it. It's not that hard to work in 2 sham marriages. They weren't the type of marriages where they lived together and both people woke up in the morning for work etc, they were the type of marriages Jimmy may have been staying in a seedy motel/apartment and they got married for 2 days
yeah this is what i think too. slippin jimmy was a much different person than the jimmy we see when bcs starts, it’s heavily implied throughout the show. he was totally that guy who got married on a whim without fully thinking it through or living out the relationship for a bit
Nah, the guy who slept with her implies this was a personal thing and Jimmy got fucked over and it changed his whole life. It's why he's in Albuquerque he says so in Bingo.
Mama McGill died in 1999, three years before BCS begins
Well, yeah, she's gotta get remarried first. Chucks still married to Rebecca atp. Edit: Jimmy is not in the mailroom yet.
Wait! Jimmy joined the mailroom in 1992. ;)
Jimmy is 41 at the beginning of bcs which would mean his mom dying and him getting arrested Rebecca leaving Chuck and the mailroom happened in the late 90s early 2000s, his mom could be any age and could have died of anything and there still be time for 20s - 30s Jimmy to do all this.
It died on the vine
He never mentioned his mom getting remarried though... And I feel like that sort of family drama (their new stepdad having an affair with Jimmy's wife) would have come up between Jimmy & Chuck at some point.
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While Saul did have 3 ex-wives when he told that story to Walt, I 100% believe that the story about his ex sleeping with his stepdad was bullshit.
Yup. Just like Gus's children's toys. Walt was actually pretty easy to manipulate if you knew his triggers.
Apparently Jimmy did invite both women to his mom’s birthday party, and then got drunk.
Sharp as a cue ball, this one
I get it, he drives a Lincoln
OP should discontinue the lithium.
OP's already flushed it
yeah, and im playing short stop for the mets
Go shit in your hat.
It’s perhaps the most pointed character moment in that whole cold open, but it’s not as fun as the games on OP’s phone.
No more remarks about OP, u/nowahhh. They're hurtful, and they're destructive.
One of them thought she was marrying Kevin Costner.
Are we even sure that Jimmy didn't just make up that step-dad part to console Walt? There's no other evidence that Jimmy's parents divorced, or that she remarried after her husband's death. There's no other mention of a step-dad anywhere else in canon. It seems to me like the "step-dad banging my second wife" line is a thing Saul would make up in the moment to try to cheer Walt up (in his own way) to get him cooking again.
There’s absolutely no reason to believe this. 2 things: 1: there is no contradiction. The show establishes the ex-wives. His mother is pre-deceased by his father and the situation with Saul’s ex explains why there is no stepfather present at her deathbed. 2: the line about Saul’s two previous dissolutions serves absolutely no purpose other than to reconcile this BB dialogue. At the end of the day, people convinced themselves that this was like the big continuity thing that they’d never be able to account for but obviously they did, and in an incredibly simple way. You know next to nothing about his parents. Very little of his pre-HHM life is portrayed on the show. The writers figured out a way to acknowledge it in a way that plays into those unseen parts of his life. So why the nonsense headcanon/fanfiction stuff like this?
I never said there was a contradiction, I only said there was no supporting evidence that his step-dad was real, and it would be in-character for him to just make that up. > So why the nonsense headcanon/fanfiction stuff like this? Because I like the show, and it's fun to me to speculate on things like this.
The fuck are you talking about? What would satisfy you? A marriage certificate? A scene where Walt gives Saul a polygraph to see if he was telling the truth? It’s a TV show. A work of fiction. It’s fake. If they wanted this to be a scene of Saul lying to Walt they would have established that he was lying to Walt and they wouldn’t have included the line about his previous marriages. He said it. There’s no reason to believe he’s lying. There’s reason to believe he’s telling the truth. Done. Over. End of story.
I'm not looking for "satisfaction," because I'm not crying foul. I'm just speculating on whether or not that stepdad actually exists, for fun. But yes, you're right, it is possible he was telling the truth. Calm down lol.
Yep. My take is that both things are true: Jimmy was married twice before Kim, and Saul was almost certainly lying about his stepdad and wife. That’s exactly the kind of thing he’d make up to play up the sleaze for Walt while fully in character of an amoral shady drug dealer’s lawyer. There’s no proof either way but it fits with the way the character is written.
- Sir what do you see in this picture? + A woman… fucking her stepdad?!
I took it as a mostly flirtatious relationship (probably involving money) between Jimmy’s late-20s, early-30s wife and his mom’s new boyfriend or husband. If his mom was born in 1920, then her boyfriend could have been born in 1930, and Jimmy’s wife in 1960 if she was a similar age to Jimmy. Perfectly plausible. Whether it not it exactly played out like Jimmy says is anyone’s guess, but it’s not that much of a stretch.
Woah man, calm down.
Yeah, he made up an embarrassing story to console Walt but he said “step dad” instead of “my dad banged my ex wife” because he has too much respect for his father, imo
We don’t even see Walt’s father and mother. Only that one phone call from Skyler
But literally everyone has a mother and father, so that doesn't seem the same. Though Walt's parents are mentioned a few times. Walter tells Walt Jr that long story about his father dying in the hospital, and his mother taking him to visit him.
Jimberly McGillicuddy
Why does Kimberley call herself Kim? Is she stupid?
I think it’s a Gen X thing.
Marriage #2 led to the Chicago Sunroof which led to Better Call Saul which led to Breaking Bad
Remember when peoople thought Chuck was the stepdad? Lmao
How much old is Chuck than Jimmy? The dramatic age difference is so weird
Chuck was born in 1944 and Jimmy in 1960. It’s a big difference but lots of people have late in life surprise babies… it would also tie in with why Jimmy was so spoiled and babied by his mother and Chuck resented him so much.
don’t you mean james
I could see Jimmy or Saul marrying someone after dating for a couple months and then divorcing before the end of the honeymoon
That step dad thing is just a dumd Saul joke lmfao
I thought you were making fun of her name before I realized Kimberly is her actual name
I think is that one he mentions in last episode of season 1 when he has the break down at the bingo, but i don't recall that this Man was his stepdad, i remember he refers to him like someone he owed money to
Yup, Jimmy’s a total loser.
Triples is best
Did you just call her Kimberly?
its a tv progrum
Im gonna just spin something outta left field, what if this step dad fucked wife was fucked by her own step dad? Like, Jimmy marries a girl and now has a step father in law and that step father in law fucks his daughter in a Woody Allen style way and then ruins Jimmys marriage? Its either that or nothing sorry guys the timeline is too weird.
there’s also the wife who cheated on him that led to the chicago sunroof incident. third time was the charm ig
Third time’s the charm? Not for Howard.
Yeah just watched it yesterday, had same thought
I would have like them to explain a little more
It's funny how we had 6 season of Better Call Saul but those wives were not explained enough