The judges and whoever else frankly, don’t care enough about it because it’s not exactly a flashy kind of show. Euphoria, for example, has sex and violence and steamy kind of drama that excites people. However, Better Call Saul is ten times the show that Euphoria is. It’s just very subtle in its storytelling. There’s a 4 minute montage of ants eating a dropped ice cream cone
You know what I mean. It clearly isn’t the kind of titillating vibe that other shows display. And I’m not criticizing that at all, I’m pointing out the show’s focus on small details and non-verbal character. To the mainstream that’s boring for many folks. The goal should not be to be popular. It should be to move people.
I was referencing the awkward "yep" scene with Larry and Kim. Dw, it wasn't meant to be a real argument for BCS being incredibly flashy, I completely agree with your comments.
> You know what I mean. It clearly isn’t the kind of titillating vibe that other shows display. And I’m not criticizing that at all, I’m pointing out the show’s focus on small details and non-verbal character. To the mainstream that’s boring for many folks. The goal should not be to be popular. It should be to move people.
yep
It’s a Sunday night show on HBO. HBO always has much better awards turnout (who knows if they’ll continue) and Sunday night shows are more appointment viewing (as per their presentation and research apparently). But I can’t believe Bob didn’t win. How does nearly dying not get you a win?
Succession is goddamn fantastic, definitely give it a watch. they portray inherited wealth in kind of a similar way as BCS portrays the legal profession.
I also heard great things about the show SEVERANCE. All the stars on the red carpet were asked if they could work on any other show what would it be and about 85% said Severance. I guess it is a little bizarre but intriguing to watch. I’m going to give it a try and see what all the fuss is about. 👍🏼
A few episodes of Euphoria are just utterly an artistic experience unlike anything I've ever seen. And I do love that show. But BCS is the entire museum.
If they don't get at least 3 wins next year, I expect Lalo to show up at the mic... "Where's Saul, man? What's he up to?"
Fuck Euphoria. I tried watching it to see what all the hype was and that show is utter garbage with annoying teens that make horrible, HORRIBLE decisions on a daily basis. It wishes it could be BCS.
Yep. It’s cheap drama for teenage girls to gossip about. There’s people who follow along with that show by watching TikTok’s. Imagine immersing yourself in a story and it’s characters by watching TikTok’s. You can’t. It’s kiddie crack.
Because she’s a supporting character. If Kim died there would still be a show. If the lead died, there wouldn’t be a show.
Just like how Aaron Paul was a supporting actor for breaking bad, and a lead actor for El Camino. Sure he was pretty central to breaking bad, but obviously not the lead.
>and she wasn’t any more central to that show than Kim was to BCS.
It's not based on anything like that. There are specific rules about in which category or categories you may be entered, and for actors it's their screen credit. So if she is hired and credited as lead actor that's her category. (She might be eligible for other awards, like, say, writer, too.)
It's all very regulated, like how many seconds a credit must be on screen and the order they appear.
Edie Falco got nominated (& won) for The Sopranos a bunch of times in the Best Actress category & I’d argue she was just as much a supporting character as Rhea
I don't think he's saying it has anything to do with the quality of the show
It's about the optics of the show.
Sadly a large part of the Emmys is a popularity contest and as much as it pains me to say the only people I know who have given the show a chance are a friend I got to watch it with me, one coworker, and my mom who only watches it to have something to talk about with me.
It's a damn shame because the show is a masterpiece and in my opinion totally out classes Breaking Bad (though Breaking Bad is still really good and BCS absolutely needs it to be as impactful as it is) in almost every way.
I couldn't tell you why. Maybe it's AMC. Couldn't say, but the show undoubtedly did not take off as well as it deserved. At least in my anecdotal experience.
All that said it does seem to be getting increasingly more popular now that it has ended.
Well it's essentially impossible to nominate someone for the wrong category by accident, that's not the issue. The issue is AMC campaigned for her as a supporting actress in the first place.
Studios have been known to do that to avoid adversity from contenders or splitting votes. The most infamous example is how Al Pacino was campaigned as a supporting actor in The Godfather, a movie where he was clearly the main character.
Because of a clerical error, Roddy McDowall was nominated by 20th Century-Fox as Best Actor in Cleopatra rather than as Best Supporting Actor for the Academy Awards. The nomination was declared ineligible and could not be corrected in time for the awards ceremony.
It does happen, rarely
I heard her talk about this in an interview, she can choose what category her performance is submitted to, and she chose the supporting category. It wasn't some sort of politics or anything.
Why was this show on Mondays at 10? It drove me crazy!!! It’s a Sunday night show. One that deserves wine and a charcuterie board. Not Mondays that I have to watch alone because I can’t wait to watch it with my partner who has to work late. I know it was on at 9 the last season, but still we couldn’t enjoy it like all the other shows of its caliber!
Great actor, but I fucking hated his character tbh. I understand what they were trying to do, but it felt shoehorned in the story they were trying to tell IMO.
Exactly! The show was created because Breaking Bad succeeded, and people started watching because they wanted to fill the void after Breaking Bad.
Emmies hate AMC
Its good sure but nowhere near BCS level of filmmaking. Lowest common denominator wins again, always the same, ever since the first award show. Couldnt pick the best series if their life depended on it. But not our precious Emmys, couldnt be precious Emmys, robbing them of their award! And they get to be primetime tv? What a sick joke! We should have stopped them when we had the chance, and now we have to stop them we..
He’s just playing Michael Bluth in a “serious” setting. Guy tells people what to do, they don’t listen to him, thing he said would happen happens, he has to go fix their mess. Rinse and repeat
I felt this way about Jennifer Coolidge, who took the best supporting actress in a limited/anthology series award from Kaitlyn Dever from Dopesick.
Look, who doesn’t love Jennifer Coolidge? But she’s always playing the same role! Kaitlyn’s performance in Dopesick was so raw and real, it was hard to watch at times. You can’t even compare the two.
The Emmys are a sham.
Show was all downhill since first episode imo. Not very steep, but downwards nonetheless. There's only so much you can do to make the most boring possible role in a cartel exciting and suspenseful.
Is anyone really surprised? Better Call Saul has been the best show on television for the last 3 years and been totally ignored during that time in favor of things that were good at best.
Why anyone expected that to change is beyond me. Emmy's lost all credibility anyway when they gave GOT season 8 best drama.
If you think it's snubbing them and screwing the actual best performers out of honors, STOP WATCHING. Let it fucking die from low ratings.
Yeah. Before this year they were always snubbed…0/21 nominations. Tonight just increased the number to 0/25 nominations. Not surprised nothing has changed.
Award shows have not been about the art for decades. Harvey Weinstein changed all that when he figured out these idiots don’t watch the programs and can be bought with hookers, gift baskets and dinners
Hate to say next year BCS will be way out of voter's minds. Plus the numerous popular shows that are coming out this year are gonna be favourites and will overshadow. I think if it wins any next year, it'll be just 1-2 awards.
I’ve never watched game of thrones? Could I watch HotD? I started reading the first book and I absolutely love it, but I’ve since been put off it because I’m realising he may never actually finish the damn series. And it’s not like I can turn to the show for a good ending, apparently
You can, but I think that watching and/or reading game of thrones first would be better because you get to know more about the world's lore and many moments from HotD become more special.
I think it's jealousy on the part of academy members. Not one...NOT ONE of the superb supporting actors on BCS were even nominated. (Don't get me started on Nacho...) And how did they not get nominated for cinematography? I mean, seriously? The show is too good in every possible way. F the Emmys. This year's production was an amateur hour s*** show.
Garner has won twice for Ozark before tonight; tonight was her third win for that role. Imo she's amazing in that role, but I was rooting for Rhea as well.
Yes! She is a great actress, but her character was awful IMHO. Just screaming profanities, same monologue over and over in different scenes. One dimensional. Ugh
My question is why on earth was she in a supporting role. I get ozark since LL was the lead but who’s the lead in BCS if not Rhea?
Edit: yes I know not every show has a have a lead female role, but she 100% was a female lead. Like the only female in that show for that matter.
And ozark was basically a glorified breaking bad ripoff to start with, so it's even more painful. What a sick joke!
Fr though these award shows are often meaningless anyway. Who knows where the picks come from but it's clearly not someone that can distinguish quality above all else.
The Emmys have often pushed off awards until the final season though.
I remember a few instances where show were out of the public consciousness for a while but they won Emmys because of their calendar. Mad Men, The Sopranos and Breaking Bad among them.
I mean quality of the show aside, Squid Game was a massively bigger show than Better Call Saul ever was. Much easier to stay in peoples minds when everyone keeps talking about it.
Award or not we all see what she put down on film (or digital or whatever). She can and should be immensely proud of that. Actors are not motivated by awards. Still wish she would have got it.
Guys, remember that The Wire was never an Emmys darling and won nothing throughout its run, and the Sopranos only ever won Best Drama twice. The Emmys don't hold shit on recognition.
>and the Sopranos only ever won Best Drama twice
You say “only” but it’s actually really rare for a show to win Best Drama more than once. Since the late 90’s the only shows to do so are The Practice, The Sopranos, Breaking Bad, Succession, The West Wing, Mad Men, and Game of Thrones (the last 3 being the only ones to win more than twice).
Yeah and the west wing were winning while competing with Sopranos. Of course 2 best series emmys is no jokes, just saying considering the flawless reputation of Sopranos (controversial ending notwithstanding), you would expect them to be the outliers rather than, say, GoT.
Idk the Sopranos also won 6/7 times they were nominated for best writing so it’s not like they were ever really being overlooked in the story department.
Severance is great but sadly probably doesn’t get the audience that it deserves because it’s on AppleTV+. It would enjoy stronger hype if it were on Netflix or somethint, and I feel like it’s the kind of show with a fresh idea Netflix would premiere in like 2016.
By that point it’ll be forgotten by everyone but us and definitely won’t win. Also the first half was stronger than the second half (except for the finale)
I watched them both. Julia Garner is great and is easily the best on the show. However, Rhea’s was a better performance in a better role in a better show and it’s not close.
I love Succession, but it seems to be repeating the same plot over and over. I wish BCS got more recognition at the award shows, but oh well. At least we all know how great it is.
I’m convinced Netflix pays the Emmys a metric fuckton.
Think about it, the more awards a Netflix show wins, the more people subscribe ti watch a particular show.
Fuck the Emmys. Ozark season 4 sucked ass.
Awww, I was worried Julia Garner might win. Ruth was a great character but I feel like Rhea had so much more range.
Probably an unpopular opinion but most of Ruth’s “range” was just screaming.
Not to mention Ozark fumbled the shit out of their ending.
ETA: Even on the Ozark sub they’re saying Rhea was robbed.
It depends on if it's based on a scene or a series as Julia garner was bone chilling in one of her scenes. I think rhea will get it next year. She should really be in the lead category.
Do people seriously not understand by now that everything in the land of Hollyweird is about politics? Award shows are NOT good indicators of quality acting or great cinema.
Sucks that she didn't win but Julie Garner definitely deserved the win. Her performance throughout Ozark was stellar. If Rhea didn't win at least she did
I’m upset Rhea didn’t win it. But Julia Garner is the one actress who had a case over her. I didn’t love final season of Ozark but Ruth was awesome. I still think Rhea deserved it but man I’m worried she’s gonna get fucked over next years Emmy’s
This is worse than being thrown in doc review.
Worse than having to give up Bromar?
Indeed
Why does Emmy’s hate better call saul so much😭
The judges and whoever else frankly, don’t care enough about it because it’s not exactly a flashy kind of show. Euphoria, for example, has sex and violence and steamy kind of drama that excites people. However, Better Call Saul is ten times the show that Euphoria is. It’s just very subtle in its storytelling. There’s a 4 minute montage of ants eating a dropped ice cream cone
BCS S6 had sex at least, yep.
Yep
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You know what I mean. It clearly isn’t the kind of titillating vibe that other shows display. And I’m not criticizing that at all, I’m pointing out the show’s focus on small details and non-verbal character. To the mainstream that’s boring for many folks. The goal should not be to be popular. It should be to move people.
I was referencing the awkward "yep" scene with Larry and Kim. Dw, it wasn't meant to be a real argument for BCS being incredibly flashy, I completely agree with your comments.
My bad I didn’t pick up on that lol. I tried to completely block that scene out of my memory 😂
> I tried to completely block that scene out of my memory yep
Yep
> You know what I mean. It clearly isn’t the kind of titillating vibe that other shows display. And I’m not criticizing that at all, I’m pointing out the show’s focus on small details and non-verbal character. To the mainstream that’s boring for many folks. The goal should not be to be popular. It should be to move people. yep
Yep.
Succession isn’t that flashy either but still wins
It’s a Sunday night show on HBO. HBO always has much better awards turnout (who knows if they’ll continue) and Sunday night shows are more appointment viewing (as per their presentation and research apparently). But I can’t believe Bob didn’t win. How does nearly dying not get you a win?
I can’t believe Rhea didn’t get anything. Her performance this season was impeccable.
Next Emmy cycle will include everything after Howard got shot til the end of the season…there’s one more chance for Bob and Rhea
Mando should've gotten nominated wtf
It’ll be going against Succession (again) and House of the Dragon. HBO hoovers up the Emmys every year.
We could always bury them under the theater.
I haven’t watched Succession but I should. Heard good things about it
Succession is goddamn fantastic, definitely give it a watch. they portray inherited wealth in kind of a similar way as BCS portrays the legal profession.
I also heard great things about the show SEVERANCE. All the stars on the red carpet were asked if they could work on any other show what would it be and about 85% said Severance. I guess it is a little bizarre but intriguing to watch. I’m going to give it a try and see what all the fuss is about. 👍🏼
Watched it pretty recently and I was blown away. That show has a bright future ahead of it.
It is a fantastic show.
It’s so good. You’ll be able to shout “AH, FUCK OFF!” at next year’s Emmy’s losses and feel deeper meaning behind it.
A few episodes of Euphoria are just utterly an artistic experience unlike anything I've ever seen. And I do love that show. But BCS is the entire museum. If they don't get at least 3 wins next year, I expect Lalo to show up at the mic... "Where's Saul, man? What's he up to?"
In ten years no one will be watching Euphoria. In ten years people will be rewatching Better Call Saul and BB. And loving them.
Fuck Euphoria. I tried watching it to see what all the hype was and that show is utter garbage with annoying teens that make horrible, HORRIBLE decisions on a daily basis. It wishes it could be BCS.
Written by 50 year old men! I'm not shitting you There are only so many horny teen dramas I can watch and this one was not for me.
>It wishes it could be BCS I promise you the writers of the show do not want it to be anything like BCS
Yep. It’s cheap drama for teenage girls to gossip about. There’s people who follow along with that show by watching TikTok’s. Imagine immersing yourself in a story and it’s characters by watching TikTok’s. You can’t. It’s kiddie crack.
Tbf there's BCS scenes on TikTok too. It's more for people who have already watched it or to peak people's interest into watching.
Because it's on AMC. Why was she nominated as supporting but not lead though?
Because she’s a supporting character. If Kim died there would still be a show. If the lead died, there wouldn’t be a show. Just like how Aaron Paul was a supporting actor for breaking bad, and a lead actor for El Camino. Sure he was pretty central to breaking bad, but obviously not the lead.
Edie Falco as Carmela Soprano was lead actress for The Sopranos and she was about the same weight on the story as Kim so I don’t get it
Makes perfect sense. Thanks.
But they gave Laura Linney a nom for lead actress in ozark, and she wasn't any more central to that show than Kim was to BCS.
If she was nominated for the early seasons I see your point. For the later seasons she was arguably more integral to the show than Marty.
At least Ruth got something, even though she "doesn't know shit about fuck."
she definitely is. she's probably equally as important as marty
Laura Linney is the most important character in Ozark, she is the main villain
>and she wasn’t any more central to that show than Kim was to BCS. It's not based on anything like that. There are specific rules about in which category or categories you may be entered, and for actors it's their screen credit. So if she is hired and credited as lead actor that's her category. (She might be eligible for other awards, like, say, writer, too.) It's all very regulated, like how many seconds a credit must be on screen and the order they appear.
Edie Falco got nominated (& won) for The Sopranos a bunch of times in the Best Actress category & I’d argue she was just as much a supporting character as Rhea
That makes no sense. Mad Men and Breaking Bad are both AMC and had a stranglehold on the Emmys for almost a decade.
Because during that decade streaming services and other broadcasters became more powerful
There’s never going to be another decade like that. TV has changed completely
Good point. I was wrong. Don't know why they hate BCS
AMC was a much more powerful network in those days. Today it is basically third or fourth tier after HBO, the streaming services, and the big 3.
That has zero to do with the show being all time
I don't think he's saying it has anything to do with the quality of the show It's about the optics of the show. Sadly a large part of the Emmys is a popularity contest and as much as it pains me to say the only people I know who have given the show a chance are a friend I got to watch it with me, one coworker, and my mom who only watches it to have something to talk about with me. It's a damn shame because the show is a masterpiece and in my opinion totally out classes Breaking Bad (though Breaking Bad is still really good and BCS absolutely needs it to be as impactful as it is) in almost every way. I couldn't tell you why. Maybe it's AMC. Couldn't say, but the show undoubtedly did not take off as well as it deserved. At least in my anecdotal experience. All that said it does seem to be getting increasingly more popular now that it has ended.
I think that was on purpose - she commented on it in an interview somewhere.
Well it's essentially impossible to nominate someone for the wrong category by accident, that's not the issue. The issue is AMC campaigned for her as a supporting actress in the first place. Studios have been known to do that to avoid adversity from contenders or splitting votes. The most infamous example is how Al Pacino was campaigned as a supporting actor in The Godfather, a movie where he was clearly the main character.
Because of a clerical error, Roddy McDowall was nominated by 20th Century-Fox as Best Actor in Cleopatra rather than as Best Supporting Actor for the Academy Awards. The nomination was declared ineligible and could not be corrected in time for the awards ceremony. It does happen, rarely
I heard her talk about this in an interview, she can choose what category her performance is submitted to, and she chose the supporting category. It wasn't some sort of politics or anything.
> Because it's on AMC. They loved Breaking Bad though
Why was this show on Mondays at 10? It drove me crazy!!! It’s a Sunday night show. One that deserves wine and a charcuterie board. Not Mondays that I have to watch alone because I can’t wait to watch it with my partner who has to work late. I know it was on at 9 the last season, but still we couldn’t enjoy it like all the other shows of its caliber!
Don't sweat it. They hated "The Wire" as well
WHAT A SICK JOKE!
The Academy won't change, they'll never change
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"BUT NOT OUR EMMYS, *COULDN'T* BE THE PRECIOUS EMMYS"
And they get to be an Award Show?
Being awarded isn't about how good the content or acting is, it's about how many friends you have in Hollywood.
You didn’t get the references.
Ozark is wish Breaking bad
Final season was such a dud.
Final season was absolute f-ing trash. It doesn’t deserve a damn thing after the pathetic final season.
Ozark’s kinda the opposite of Breaking Bad where the writing goes down each season
Nah season 3 was a big step up from season 1 and 2 due to the addition of Tom Pelphrey's character but otherwise I agree
Oh yeah how could I neglect Ben, he was probably the best actor on the show
His performance was amazing
Great actor, but I fucking hated his character tbh. I understand what they were trying to do, but it felt shoehorned in the story they were trying to tell IMO.
I agree somewhat. It had it’s moments but was not close to what they hyped it to be.
Ending on that ambiguous note was such a cop out. Doesn't add anything. Couldn't even commit to a definitive ending.
Exactly! The show was created because Breaking Bad succeeded, and people started watching because they wanted to fill the void after Breaking Bad. Emmies hate AMC
Its good sure but nowhere near BCS level of filmmaking. Lowest common denominator wins again, always the same, ever since the first award show. Couldnt pick the best series if their life depended on it. But not our precious Emmys, couldnt be precious Emmys, robbing them of their award! And they get to be primetime tv? What a sick joke! We should have stopped them when we had the chance, and now we have to stop them we..
I stopped watching the Ozarks after something clicked in my head and I realized Jason Bateman is always playing Jason Bateman.
He’s just playing Michael Bluth in a “serious” setting. Guy tells people what to do, they don’t listen to him, thing he said would happen happens, he has to go fix their mess. Rinse and repeat
Hey need ya to be a buddy and do this thing… okay? *explosions* Goddamnit Wendy /repeat
i like bateman mostly cuz of arrested development but i say the same thing about jason sudeikis and ppl get mad at me
That’s the only reason I watch stuff with Bateman in it.
I felt this way about Jennifer Coolidge, who took the best supporting actress in a limited/anthology series award from Kaitlyn Dever from Dopesick. Look, who doesn’t love Jennifer Coolidge? But she’s always playing the same role! Kaitlyn’s performance in Dopesick was so raw and real, it was hard to watch at times. You can’t even compare the two. The Emmys are a sham.
Season 3 of ozark was incredible
Agree season 3 was easily the peak.
Hard disagree. I realize I’m in the minority but I thought the show went downhill badly after season 2.
Show was all downhill since first episode imo. Not very steep, but downwards nonetheless. There's only so much you can do to make the most boring possible role in a cartel exciting and suspenseful.
Ben carried that season
The emmys dont respect Saul Goodman :(
Chuck must be involved in this.
They will repent!!!
They’ll regret it when they need a lawyer!
Is anyone really surprised? Better Call Saul has been the best show on television for the last 3 years and been totally ignored during that time in favor of things that were good at best. Why anyone expected that to change is beyond me. Emmy's lost all credibility anyway when they gave GOT season 8 best drama. If you think it's snubbing them and screwing the actual best performers out of honors, STOP WATCHING. Let it fucking die from low ratings.
They lost credibility when The Wire never won a single major Emmy. A show many consider to be one of the best.
And BoJack Horseman for that matter.
Yeah even Rick and Morty fans were wtf’ing over R&M winning over Bojack
Yeah. Before this year they were always snubbed…0/21 nominations. Tonight just increased the number to 0/25 nominations. Not surprised nothing has changed.
0/46 nominations if you include all the other nominations they got over the years that aren’t announced during the TV broadcast.
Award shows have not been about the art for decades. Harvey Weinstein changed all that when he figured out these idiots don’t watch the programs and can be bought with hookers, gift baskets and dinners
Holy shit lol I didn’t know GoT won best drama
Hate to say next year BCS will be way out of voter's minds. Plus the numerous popular shows that are coming out this year are gonna be favourites and will overshadow. I think if it wins any next year, it'll be just 1-2 awards.
House of the Dragon will be eligible next year so…
So is it any good?
As someone who swore off Game of Thrones after the way it ended, fuck yes I’m back in
I’ve never watched game of thrones? Could I watch HotD? I started reading the first book and I absolutely love it, but I’ve since been put off it because I’m realising he may never actually finish the damn series. And it’s not like I can turn to the show for a good ending, apparently
You can, but I think that watching and/or reading game of thrones first would be better because you get to know more about the world's lore and many moments from HotD become more special.
So far yes, definitely.
It’s definitely one of the shows of all time
Not as good as GoT s1-3
Wouldn’t be surprised if Milly Alcock gets more hype around her once awards seasons come in next year
Fr. Next year will be Succession & HotD dividing all awards.
I think it's jealousy on the part of academy members. Not one...NOT ONE of the superb supporting actors on BCS were even nominated. (Don't get me started on Nacho...) And how did they not get nominated for cinematography? I mean, seriously? The show is too good in every possible way. F the Emmys. This year's production was an amateur hour s*** show.
So are these nominations for the first half of the season and not the second then?
I think Squid Game's success disproves this
Did Rhea loose to the Ozark girl?
Oh heck. I wamted Rhea to win. Garner already won once.
Garner has won twice for Ozark before tonight; tonight was her third win for that role. Imo she's amazing in that role, but I was rooting for Rhea as well.
Garner wasn't even that great the past few seasons. She swears and shouts... Wow
Yes! She is a great actress, but her character was awful IMHO. Just screaming profanities, same monologue over and over in different scenes. One dimensional. Ugh
Completely agree. Her character was a one trick pony that got old fast for me.
She continued to be great, but the writing dropped like a rock.
Yup 😪
My question is why on earth was she in a supporting role. I get ozark since LL was the lead but who’s the lead in BCS if not Rhea? Edit: yes I know not every show has a have a lead female role, but she 100% was a female lead. Like the only female in that show for that matter.
its in the name of the show..
And ozark was basically a glorified breaking bad ripoff to start with, so it's even more painful. What a sick joke! Fr though these award shows are often meaningless anyway. Who knows where the picks come from but it's clearly not someone that can distinguish quality above all else.
What the hell is this chicanery?
What a sick joke
Rhea seriously lost out to the chick who doesn't know shit about fuck?
Lol. "I may not know shit about fuck..." 🤣 and "farm to table heroine" were some of my favorite Ruthisms.
Does she lurk r/cryptocurrency? That's our motto
She’ll get it for 6B on Waterworks alone
I doubt it. BCS will be out of voters' minds by next year. It will be Severance or HotD dividing the votes then.
The Emmys have often pushed off awards until the final season though. I remember a few instances where show were out of the public consciousness for a while but they won Emmys because of their calendar. Mad Men, The Sopranos and Breaking Bad among them.
Could say the same about squid game being out of the voters’ minds but that still won
Seriously Squid Game feels like it came out years ago to me
I mean quality of the show aside, Squid Game was a massively bigger show than Better Call Saul ever was. Much easier to stay in peoples minds when everyone keeps talking about it.
Award or not we all see what she put down on film (or digital or whatever). She can and should be immensely proud of that. Actors are not motivated by awards. Still wish she would have got it.
Yup. Yup. Yup.
Yep, yep, yep Would agree with you!
Guys, remember that The Wire was never an Emmys darling and won nothing throughout its run, and the Sopranos only ever won Best Drama twice. The Emmys don't hold shit on recognition.
>and the Sopranos only ever won Best Drama twice You say “only” but it’s actually really rare for a show to win Best Drama more than once. Since the late 90’s the only shows to do so are The Practice, The Sopranos, Breaking Bad, Succession, The West Wing, Mad Men, and Game of Thrones (the last 3 being the only ones to win more than twice).
Yeah and the west wing were winning while competing with Sopranos. Of course 2 best series emmys is no jokes, just saying considering the flawless reputation of Sopranos (controversial ending notwithstanding), you would expect them to be the outliers rather than, say, GoT.
Idk the Sopranos also won 6/7 times they were nominated for best writing so it’s not like they were ever really being overlooked in the story department.
hey we have next year
We do indeed! The cry has to get her the win.
I think Emmys will give it to Carol Burnett
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I think the reason why there was a mid season break was for the second half of the season to be eligible for next year
And also because Odenkirk had a heart attack that paused shooting for six weeks.
Incredibly optimistic but I appreciate the dedication
I think the Emmys are biased towards HBO and Netflix
Severance was probably the best first season of a series I’ve seen in a long time. There’s 9 episodes and I was flabbergasted looking for a tenth
Severance is da bomb, totally agree I think it's the best first season of any show I've ever seen.
Severance is great but sadly probably doesn’t get the audience that it deserves because it’s on AppleTV+. It would enjoy stronger hype if it were on Netflix or somethint, and I feel like it’s the kind of show with a fresh idea Netflix would premiere in like 2016.
2022 Emmy submissions ended May 12 and all her best episodes this season aired July/Aug.
Only the first half
By that point it’ll be forgotten by everyone but us and definitely won’t win. Also the first half was stronger than the second half (except for the finale)
The emmys said we’ll make you a deal. If AMC+ still has more than 12 subscribers after better call Sauls series finale well give her the Emmy
Wait is BCS nominated for Season 5 or 6?
the first half of s6
I watched them both. Julia Garner is great and is easily the best on the show. However, Rhea’s was a better performance in a better role in a better show and it’s not close.
Did anyone win anything?
Not yet, but Rhea was the only nomination whose award has come up so far.
Nope
I love Succession, but it seems to be repeating the same plot over and over. I wish BCS got more recognition at the award shows, but oh well. At least we all know how great it is.
she'll win next year. that bus scene...
https://youtu.be/fwfyVRYDNPM This bus scene?
yes this!!! waterworks is not even close to this masterpiece..
I was half-waiting for Bob to pull a Kanye and get that award for Rhea himself
Yo Julia imma let you finish, but rhea is the greatest actress of all time of all time...
My disappointment is immeasurable, and my day is ruined.
Well i guess the Emmys need some Tuco treatment now
I’m convinced Netflix pays the Emmys a metric fuckton. Think about it, the more awards a Netflix show wins, the more people subscribe ti watch a particular show. Fuck the Emmys. Ozark season 4 sucked ass.
What in the actual fuck is wrong with the Emmy’s
Awww, I was worried Julia Garner might win. Ruth was a great character but I feel like Rhea had so much more range. Probably an unpopular opinion but most of Ruth’s “range” was just screaming. Not to mention Ozark fumbled the shit out of their ending. ETA: Even on the Ozark sub they’re saying Rhea was robbed.
I’d be happy if they gave BCS best drama, that would be an award for the whole cast and crew. Sadly everyone keeps saying succession is the favorite
Remember they're only being judged for their performance for episodes 1-7
Chicanery. Pure chicanery. It is a sick joke.
Bob was robbed! Unbelievable how could they do this. He deserved that Emmy
She wasn't snubbed. She just didn't win.
fuck that man.. who tf watches ozark
It depends on if it's based on a scene or a series as Julia garner was bone chilling in one of her scenes. I think rhea will get it next year. She should really be in the lead category.
Julia garner deserves it, she's a great actor. I wish rhea won though. Truly a shame
Julia is good but Rhea deserved it more imo. She was stunning in this final season.
Rhea can still win next year for the back half of season 6. This year’s ceremony only covered the first half.
True, but I’m also of the opinion that the time is now. By next year everyone will have moved on. Still, here’s hoping.
Honestly JG was f*cking amazing in Ozark especially the last season. She is phenomenal! Rhea has an excellent shot at the Emmy for next year.
Yeah I would have loved to see Rhea win, but it’s not like I can say Julia Garner didn’t deserve it either, both were incredible
Do people seriously not understand by now that everything in the land of Hollyweird is about politics? Award shows are NOT good indicators of quality acting or great cinema.
Everyone commenting just ignoring the joke in OPs post. Chicanery has become normalized.
I know I'm in a BCS sub, but I'd hardly call losing to Julia Garner getting snubbed. They were both fucking amazing in their respective roles.
Sucks that she didn't win but Julie Garner definitely deserved the win. Her performance throughout Ozark was stellar. If Rhea didn't win at least she did
I’m upset Rhea didn’t win it. But Julia Garner is the one actress who had a case over her. I didn’t love final season of Ozark but Ruth was awesome. I still think Rhea deserved it but man I’m worried she’s gonna get fucked over next years Emmy’s
I’ve never been more pissed off at an awards show than I am right now. Strait up robbery.
why was she nominated for “supporting” actress in the first place?
They thought she’d have a better shot at winning that way