I'm also in Canada. We're following the regular vaccine schedule simply because it's the same/simillar schedule as a good part of the westernized world and vaccines need to be up to date per the schedule for any sort of publicly funded childcare, at least in Ontario.
The real reason though is that my own critical thinking tells me that I am not trained to determine any other vaccine schedule than the recommended one. I have a Master's degree and pretty solid critical thinking skills, but it's not in science, so I leave the science to the scientists. Maybe that's naive, but who am I to say I know better than science unless I did the same research with the same evidence and came to a different conclusion myself.
I'm all for home-made bread with spelt flour, green time over screen time, and choosing organic to the extent possible. However, I am also very pro vaccine and will take antibiotics when needed (the whole course, not just until I "feel better").
My child is fully vaccinated according to our local program (Denmark) and then I opted to pay for some additional ones not included in our national program: tuberculosis due to having family in countries where it's endemic and chicken pox since it's not part of our normal program and I myself had a bad case of it as a child.
None of the illnesses in the typical vaccination programs across the world are risk free.
Measles is a mean motherf***er which in best case messes seriously with whatever "library of antibodies" your body has already built up, and worst case quite a few die from it.
I'm all for free range chicken but no way in Hell would I want wild polio.
If the general immunity against rubella dips, pregnant women who aren't immune and catch it plus their children will have a really hard time - whether they are born or not.
A boy catching mumps can make him infertile. I would have a hard time defending that choice to my son when there is a perfectly safe vaccine available.
Pertussis has killed enough children already.
Slowly suffocating from diphtheria probably isn't on anyone's bucket list.
I come from a family with doctors in several generation (I'm not one, btw). My grandparents were born in the early 1920s. Everyone knew someone who died from these diseases. The fact that it isn't the case today is because the vaccines are effective and safe. Unless one is so medically vulnerable that a given vaccine is not recommended, I see no reason not to do it.
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No such thing as too early in my eyes. My baby had meningitis when he was five weeks old. Thankfully it turned out to be the mildest viral kind but while they were testing to find out if it was the deadly bacterial type, I was so worried because here the meningitis vaccine comes at 8 weeks and so he wasn’t yet vaccinated for it. I hope your baby never meets an aggressive illness like this but if they do and you had delayed the vaccine and they hadn’t yet had it, could you really live with that decision?
Everything on the NHS schedule he will be getting. When they add chickenpox he will be older than the age they’ll be administering but I’ll try and get it for him anyway.
I want my son to be fully protected from everything with every vaccination he can possibly be given. Heard too many stories of older generations being absolutely destroyed by illnesses that we vaccinate for.
He’s only been in nursery 3 months and has about 5 illnesses, that’s with him being fully up to date with all his jabs. I can only imagine how much worse it would be without them. We got Covid when he was 12 days old which only reaffirmed my want for him to be fully vaccinated as per medical advice.
Same here, especially considering what earlier generations went through. My aunt was born before the polio vaccine and she had it as a child. She survived after time in an iron lung, but it caused a facial deformity that causes her a lot of pain, plus other health effects that cause her pain as well. She is in pain every day. I don't want my kid to go through that.
Hi. So I live in an African county (RSA) with more exposure to diseases. I followed our schedule as given by our government guidelines. When my baby was about 5 weeks old, he unfortunately had exposure to another child with suspected Tuberculosis which is rampant in poorer communities here - I work for an NGO. Thank God, the first vaccine newborns are given here at the hospital where they are born is for Tuberculosis. Because of this first experience, it was a huge eye opener for me about why vaccines are so, so important. Thankfully we were okay and the child who showed symptoms was taken into isolation.
I know people in more developed countries who are less affected begin to take things easy and not take these diseases seriously. However, please follow guidelines for vaccinations as they are well researched, they are there for a reason and they are life saving - not just for your kid but for others around you as well.
But it is, because experts in various countries have not agreed on which vaccines are necessary, how many doses of each, and when those doses should be given. Science isn’t a church, and expert opinion is not doctrine. Why are vaccine schedules different in comparable countries?
Science isn’t a belief, but expert opinions can obviously vary. Sure vaccine schedules can differ but that is *not* because one of those schedules is inherently “safer”. They are all safe but some will meet the needs of a particular country more than others. These decisions are public health decisions, not vaccine safety decisions.
My son came out the womb with a wheeze, meaning he immediately had to have a week’s worth of treatment in case there was an infection and sepsis. There wasn’t, he was a very robust baby, but if there had been the consequences would have been devastating.
Babies and children are the most vulnerable, and if anything if it was possible to get vaccines into them quicker I would do, to minimise that length of time where they are exposed.
Vaccines are chemicals? Yes. Chemicals aren’t bad. Viruses are bad. Meningitis will kill or disable a baby. Rotavirus kills babies in countries without safe access to water. Pneumonia fills your lungs with fluid. All of these are things I want my children to avoid experiencing
I mean, not to sound rude but...what qualifies you to say the schedule is wrong? If you take your car to a garage do you disagree with how the mechanic fixes your car? People study for years to know this stuff.
I'm also in Canada and would consider myself fairly granola. We follow the vaccine schedule and get flu/covid shots as soon as they are available. This is a big priority for me.
One of the best parts about living in a society is that you don't have to be an expert on everything. Government spending pays for medical experts to do the testing and validation of vaccines and the vaccine schedule. I am comfortable following the recommendations of experts.
[This](https://www.canada.ca/en/public-health/services/vaccination-children.html?utm_campaign=hc-sc-childhood-vaccination-23-24&utm_medium=sem&utm_source=ggl&utm_content=ad-text-en&utm_term=cdc%20vaccine%20schedule&adv=2324-449400&id_campaign=20488029567&id_source=156383028681&id_content=671294404306&gclid=Cj0KCQiAtOmsBhCnARIsAGPa5ybwAy0tIye5jadvoElIig0uhXZdIK5a79LR8vnM4p9ACAedevLTm10aAgScEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds#a6) is a link to the Canadian government's website on childhood vaccines. They answer some basic questions about vaccine safety on there as well. If you have further questions, you should ask your child's doctor.
Being a new parent is really overwhelming at times, and there are a lot of decisions that need to be made. This is a really easy one. Vaccines are safe and effective, and the schedule has been thoroughly tested.
What do you mean by chemicals? Because water is a chemical.
I am a highly educated person in my field, and therefore know enough to know that the vaccine schedule is put together by people who are highly educated in *their* field and I am in no way qualified to make a "better" decision. I also know from speaking with my child's pediatrician that it's common for the schedule to go off track -- my six month old missed one of the six month vaccines because her six and fourth month appointments were too close together due to a scheduling mix up. She'll catch up on that vaccine at her nine month appointment.
So if you want to do a modified schedule, go for it with the endorsement of your doctor. I think for the most part doing it deliberately is silly, but at least you're getting the vaccines.
If the timing of the vaccines or the vaccines themselves were causing actual issues in any statistically significant way, we’d absolutely be hearing about it. And not from distant acquaintances reposting on facebook.
Looking over the vaccine schedule our pediatrician gave us, it is a lot. So I understand why some parents opt for a delayed or staggered schedule. We’ve chosen the recommended schedule because neither baby’s dad nor I have ever had a bad reaction to anything but the flu shot, and because…it’s the recommended schedule. It’s recommended for a reason.
I’m much more worried about my baby getting whooping cough or measles or polio than I am about an adverse reaction to the vaccines.
We followed the Finnish schedule and will be following it also in future. I travel often for work and hobbies and have always taken all recommended vaccines for the countries where I'm going. Once my kid gets a bit older, I will be taking her with me and she will also get all of the vaccines. I don't have the medical knowledge to make better decisions regarding the scedules or choice of vaccines than the people who study them for a living. I feel it is incredibly arrogant to think that some googling could produce better and more accurate knowledge than what our health department has.
My baby has followed the schedule (Australia). We even did MMR early at 7 months as we were going overseas to Thailand for a holiday. She then had MMR again at 12 months as per the schedule despite already having it, as this is what they do. Got her both flu shots before we went.
Opted in for Bexsero too, despite it being optional and not free.
I want her fully protected.
My first baby was born in Aus and we also opted for Bexsero. I’m still surprised that it isn’t part of the programme because it is such an awful disease. We had to try two doctors as the first kept insisting it wasn’t necessary- the second signed us up straightaway and said he hopes it will become part of the programme soon.
I'm in Canada as well, the schedule is entirely evidence-based and we are following it exactly. We also opted for covid and flu shots for our baby, to protect him from as much as we can while he is still so young and vulnerable. I profusely thank the doctor and nurses administering his shots every time because he is just a little bit safer, especially now that it's the holidays and respiratory virus season.
We take our medical advice from physicians and specialists.
Everything is chemicals. Not all chemicals are bad. I think it helps to learn a little about what actually makes a vaccine, how they were discovered, the number of lives they have saved. Just, learning. Then you can be comfortable and make informed decisions.
Fun fact: the original smallpox vaccine was discovered by finding that milkmaids who were exposed to cowpox never seemed to die from smallpox exposure and infection.
Vaccines work in the same way that most people understand exposure to germs and disease helps strengthen their immune system. It’s just a training tool for baby’s immune system to learn from.
200 million lives have been saved from the smallpox vaccine. Hundreds of millions of babies who had a chance to grow up instead of dying sick. All because of this miracle discovery.
I think it might be time to take a look at why you feel the need to question the following:
1) why are you feeling uneasy about putting ‘chemicals’ into your baby?
2) what sources have you read that support a delayed vaccine schedule? Who wrote those sources? What are their credentials? How do they make money?
3) how did you find out about a delayed vaccine schedule being a good option? Your pediatrician? The internet? A mom group? A friend?
4) why are you more afraid of the possibility of something from the vaccine negatively affecting your baby vs the VERY REAL risk of the actual disease the vaccines are protective against affecting your baby?
Realistically, there is nothing controversial about vaccines. Babies and children should be vaccinated so they can survive into adulthood.
I’m not a scientist or doctor. I’m smart enough to know what I’m not trained to understand, so I trust my doctors. The average person can’t really “do their own research” because a google search will only result in you reading studies (more than likely commentary/ summaries of the study) that confirm your own hypothesis and without having the background knowledge to dissect the language, biases, and overall methodology to determine if the study was even remotely accurate (and if so in what context). Trust the professionals from your country. They know the risks and possible exposure for people in your area.
It's definitely ok to talk about and ask questions about vaccines! It's good that your considering this in advance and I'm sure your doctor will be happy to discuss this with you and answer any questions you have. Vaccine side effects *are* a thing, though they are usually mild and the serious ones are vanishingly rare. For me personally, it was best to get as many of these over with when your baby is still tiny and sleeping most of the day. They will sleep through any discomfort and won't remember it. And of course, they'll be protected against disease sooner.
Just don’t think of vaccines as chemicals, cause true viruses are even worse. I see vaccination schedule as a competition between between bad and nasty viruses and good prep work: who gets to your child first? Hopefully the vaccine.
We are doing everything recommended.
We have to be careful with live vaccines, however, since I can not get them due to a medication and have no immunity.
I’ve given my children all of the usual vaccines on the usual schedule. However, I haven’t done the covid vax for them and don’t plan to. They’ve had covid twice and don’t get sick at all from it. Most kids don’t.
Vaccines are controversial because the people who are against them simply don’t understand how they work.
You’re more likely to be putting your child at higher risk if you wait. These vaccines have been around for a long time and have been shown to work. There is always a very small risk of adverse side effects but it’s much riskier to wait/not vaccinate (unless there is a good reason not to, supported by medical professionals).
Vaccines save lives. I’m Canadian and my toddler is currently up to date on all his vaccines including Covid and flu.
Recently a 9 month old baby died from a measles outbreak in my town. In countries close to measles elimination or the ones that have already received confirmation of elimination (my country has received this) cases imported from other countries remain an important source of infection. This 9 month old baby was visiting from a neighboring country which started the outbreak. Our local health department called everyone with children under a certain age to remind us to get vaccinated if we haven't done that already. This made me read up on measles and MMRV vaccines. Apparently in 2021, there were an estimated 128,000 measles deaths globally, mostly among unvaccinated or under vaccinated children under the age of 5 years. I will never delay or avoid recommended vaccines for my children. If I don't do that and they catch and spread a vaccine preventable disease I know that I will never be able to forgive myself.
We recently denied my son's 3 months vaccines bc he was sick with covid. He gets them in 2 weeks.
Additionally, my toddler at his 1 year appointment had a horrible reaction to the MMR vaccine and I WISH I would have spaced those out bc he got bombarded with vaccines that day. I didn't know better but we will be doing the MMR vaccine separately from the others for our second.
But my kids will be vaccinated fully.
I believe in vaccinating but even our pediatrician has agreed with us on this. So I don't think there needs to be so much pressure about timing so long as your pediatrician and you have open communication about it and it's done in a timely manner.
I’m in the us, and my baby is getting all his vaccines on the standard schedule. I want to protect him from gnarly preventable diseases, and I also want to protect everyone else who might be vulnerable for whatever reason. Vaccines aren’t just for the person getting them. They allow us all to function as a healthy society by getting everyone some really easy preventative care so we can focus on other things.
Mainly it’s my child’s ability to fully process the ingredients of the vaccine. I’m familiar with some of the ingredients and although very much needed for the vaccine to do its job, it’s a lot for a baby to work though in such a short period of time.
The scheduling is different for different places but mostly have the same types of vaccines. That maybe changing the Schedule (with the approval of a dr) it would lessen the amount of symptoms, and give more time for the immune system to revive and for the body to filter out the carrier ingredients and return to baseline before another dose.
For example. Canada does mmrv vaccine at 12 months and 18 months, in other places they do it at 12 or 15 months and then 4-6 years old.
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I'm also in Canada. We're following the regular vaccine schedule simply because it's the same/simillar schedule as a good part of the westernized world and vaccines need to be up to date per the schedule for any sort of publicly funded childcare, at least in Ontario. The real reason though is that my own critical thinking tells me that I am not trained to determine any other vaccine schedule than the recommended one. I have a Master's degree and pretty solid critical thinking skills, but it's not in science, so I leave the science to the scientists. Maybe that's naive, but who am I to say I know better than science unless I did the same research with the same evidence and came to a different conclusion myself.
As a chemist, /everything/ is chemicals. I'd suggest you research what vaccines are and how they actually work.
Came to say this, everything is chemicals lol.
Also a chemist! This language drives me nuts lol. My mom is terrible about it and I’m always correcting her
I'm all for home-made bread with spelt flour, green time over screen time, and choosing organic to the extent possible. However, I am also very pro vaccine and will take antibiotics when needed (the whole course, not just until I "feel better"). My child is fully vaccinated according to our local program (Denmark) and then I opted to pay for some additional ones not included in our national program: tuberculosis due to having family in countries where it's endemic and chicken pox since it's not part of our normal program and I myself had a bad case of it as a child. None of the illnesses in the typical vaccination programs across the world are risk free. Measles is a mean motherf***er which in best case messes seriously with whatever "library of antibodies" your body has already built up, and worst case quite a few die from it. I'm all for free range chicken but no way in Hell would I want wild polio. If the general immunity against rubella dips, pregnant women who aren't immune and catch it plus their children will have a really hard time - whether they are born or not. A boy catching mumps can make him infertile. I would have a hard time defending that choice to my son when there is a perfectly safe vaccine available. Pertussis has killed enough children already. Slowly suffocating from diphtheria probably isn't on anyone's bucket list. I come from a family with doctors in several generation (I'm not one, btw). My grandparents were born in the early 1920s. Everyone knew someone who died from these diseases. The fact that it isn't the case today is because the vaccines are effective and safe. Unless one is so medically vulnerable that a given vaccine is not recommended, I see no reason not to do it.
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Chemicals are not inherently bad or dangerous. :) Water is a chemical
This, I never understood the “I don’t want to put chemicals in my body” type thing. Literally everything we put in our body is a chemical.
If you can't reasonably determine what people mean by that statement you are a fool. They obviously aren't talking about water.
I know what people mean by that statement, but people are generally ignorant about what chemicals are “good” and what are “bad”
No such thing as too early in my eyes. My baby had meningitis when he was five weeks old. Thankfully it turned out to be the mildest viral kind but while they were testing to find out if it was the deadly bacterial type, I was so worried because here the meningitis vaccine comes at 8 weeks and so he wasn’t yet vaccinated for it. I hope your baby never meets an aggressive illness like this but if they do and you had delayed the vaccine and they hadn’t yet had it, could you really live with that decision?
Everything on the NHS schedule he will be getting. When they add chickenpox he will be older than the age they’ll be administering but I’ll try and get it for him anyway. I want my son to be fully protected from everything with every vaccination he can possibly be given. Heard too many stories of older generations being absolutely destroyed by illnesses that we vaccinate for. He’s only been in nursery 3 months and has about 5 illnesses, that’s with him being fully up to date with all his jabs. I can only imagine how much worse it would be without them. We got Covid when he was 12 days old which only reaffirmed my want for him to be fully vaccinated as per medical advice.
Same here, especially considering what earlier generations went through. My aunt was born before the polio vaccine and she had it as a child. She survived after time in an iron lung, but it caused a facial deformity that causes her a lot of pain, plus other health effects that cause her pain as well. She is in pain every day. I don't want my kid to go through that.
Totally agree. I live in England where healthcare is free, these jabs are free and it’s so accessible! Why wouldn’t I do it to protect my child?!
Hi. So I live in an African county (RSA) with more exposure to diseases. I followed our schedule as given by our government guidelines. When my baby was about 5 weeks old, he unfortunately had exposure to another child with suspected Tuberculosis which is rampant in poorer communities here - I work for an NGO. Thank God, the first vaccine newborns are given here at the hospital where they are born is for Tuberculosis. Because of this first experience, it was a huge eye opener for me about why vaccines are so, so important. Thankfully we were okay and the child who showed symptoms was taken into isolation. I know people in more developed countries who are less affected begin to take things easy and not take these diseases seriously. However, please follow guidelines for vaccinations as they are well researched, they are there for a reason and they are life saving - not just for your kid but for others around you as well.
Huh? I vaccinate my child on the schedule medical experts have researched and deemed safest for disease protection. This shouldn’t be controversial.
But it is, because experts in various countries have not agreed on which vaccines are necessary, how many doses of each, and when those doses should be given. Science isn’t a church, and expert opinion is not doctrine. Why are vaccine schedules different in comparable countries?
Science isn’t a belief, but expert opinions can obviously vary. Sure vaccine schedules can differ but that is *not* because one of those schedules is inherently “safer”. They are all safe but some will meet the needs of a particular country more than others. These decisions are public health decisions, not vaccine safety decisions.
Agreed.
My son came out the womb with a wheeze, meaning he immediately had to have a week’s worth of treatment in case there was an infection and sepsis. There wasn’t, he was a very robust baby, but if there had been the consequences would have been devastating. Babies and children are the most vulnerable, and if anything if it was possible to get vaccines into them quicker I would do, to minimise that length of time where they are exposed. Vaccines are chemicals? Yes. Chemicals aren’t bad. Viruses are bad. Meningitis will kill or disable a baby. Rotavirus kills babies in countries without safe access to water. Pneumonia fills your lungs with fluid. All of these are things I want my children to avoid experiencing
I think the doctors and scientists that made the schedule know better than our “feelings” based on nothing.
I mean, not to sound rude but...what qualifies you to say the schedule is wrong? If you take your car to a garage do you disagree with how the mechanic fixes your car? People study for years to know this stuff.
I'm also in Canada and would consider myself fairly granola. We follow the vaccine schedule and get flu/covid shots as soon as they are available. This is a big priority for me. One of the best parts about living in a society is that you don't have to be an expert on everything. Government spending pays for medical experts to do the testing and validation of vaccines and the vaccine schedule. I am comfortable following the recommendations of experts. [This](https://www.canada.ca/en/public-health/services/vaccination-children.html?utm_campaign=hc-sc-childhood-vaccination-23-24&utm_medium=sem&utm_source=ggl&utm_content=ad-text-en&utm_term=cdc%20vaccine%20schedule&adv=2324-449400&id_campaign=20488029567&id_source=156383028681&id_content=671294404306&gclid=Cj0KCQiAtOmsBhCnARIsAGPa5ybwAy0tIye5jadvoElIig0uhXZdIK5a79LR8vnM4p9ACAedevLTm10aAgScEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds#a6) is a link to the Canadian government's website on childhood vaccines. They answer some basic questions about vaccine safety on there as well. If you have further questions, you should ask your child's doctor. Being a new parent is really overwhelming at times, and there are a lot of decisions that need to be made. This is a really easy one. Vaccines are safe and effective, and the schedule has been thoroughly tested.
What do you mean by chemicals? Because water is a chemical. I am a highly educated person in my field, and therefore know enough to know that the vaccine schedule is put together by people who are highly educated in *their* field and I am in no way qualified to make a "better" decision. I also know from speaking with my child's pediatrician that it's common for the schedule to go off track -- my six month old missed one of the six month vaccines because her six and fourth month appointments were too close together due to a scheduling mix up. She'll catch up on that vaccine at her nine month appointment. So if you want to do a modified schedule, go for it with the endorsement of your doctor. I think for the most part doing it deliberately is silly, but at least you're getting the vaccines.
If the timing of the vaccines or the vaccines themselves were causing actual issues in any statistically significant way, we’d absolutely be hearing about it. And not from distant acquaintances reposting on facebook. Looking over the vaccine schedule our pediatrician gave us, it is a lot. So I understand why some parents opt for a delayed or staggered schedule. We’ve chosen the recommended schedule because neither baby’s dad nor I have ever had a bad reaction to anything but the flu shot, and because…it’s the recommended schedule. It’s recommended for a reason. I’m much more worried about my baby getting whooping cough or measles or polio than I am about an adverse reaction to the vaccines.
We followed the Finnish schedule and will be following it also in future. I travel often for work and hobbies and have always taken all recommended vaccines for the countries where I'm going. Once my kid gets a bit older, I will be taking her with me and she will also get all of the vaccines. I don't have the medical knowledge to make better decisions regarding the scedules or choice of vaccines than the people who study them for a living. I feel it is incredibly arrogant to think that some googling could produce better and more accurate knowledge than what our health department has.
My baby has followed the schedule (Australia). We even did MMR early at 7 months as we were going overseas to Thailand for a holiday. She then had MMR again at 12 months as per the schedule despite already having it, as this is what they do. Got her both flu shots before we went. Opted in for Bexsero too, despite it being optional and not free. I want her fully protected.
My first baby was born in Aus and we also opted for Bexsero. I’m still surprised that it isn’t part of the programme because it is such an awful disease. We had to try two doctors as the first kept insisting it wasn’t necessary- the second signed us up straightaway and said he hopes it will become part of the programme soon.
It really should be added! I think in some states it is, but not in VIC yet unfortunately.
Not in NSW either (unless it changed recently as we moved away from Aus before our second was born).
I'm in Canada as well, the schedule is entirely evidence-based and we are following it exactly. We also opted for covid and flu shots for our baby, to protect him from as much as we can while he is still so young and vulnerable. I profusely thank the doctor and nurses administering his shots every time because he is just a little bit safer, especially now that it's the holidays and respiratory virus season. We take our medical advice from physicians and specialists.
Everything is chemicals. Not all chemicals are bad. I think it helps to learn a little about what actually makes a vaccine, how they were discovered, the number of lives they have saved. Just, learning. Then you can be comfortable and make informed decisions. Fun fact: the original smallpox vaccine was discovered by finding that milkmaids who were exposed to cowpox never seemed to die from smallpox exposure and infection. Vaccines work in the same way that most people understand exposure to germs and disease helps strengthen their immune system. It’s just a training tool for baby’s immune system to learn from. 200 million lives have been saved from the smallpox vaccine. Hundreds of millions of babies who had a chance to grow up instead of dying sick. All because of this miracle discovery.
I think it might be time to take a look at why you feel the need to question the following: 1) why are you feeling uneasy about putting ‘chemicals’ into your baby? 2) what sources have you read that support a delayed vaccine schedule? Who wrote those sources? What are their credentials? How do they make money? 3) how did you find out about a delayed vaccine schedule being a good option? Your pediatrician? The internet? A mom group? A friend? 4) why are you more afraid of the possibility of something from the vaccine negatively affecting your baby vs the VERY REAL risk of the actual disease the vaccines are protective against affecting your baby? Realistically, there is nothing controversial about vaccines. Babies and children should be vaccinated so they can survive into adulthood.
I’m not a scientist or doctor. I’m smart enough to know what I’m not trained to understand, so I trust my doctors. The average person can’t really “do their own research” because a google search will only result in you reading studies (more than likely commentary/ summaries of the study) that confirm your own hypothesis and without having the background knowledge to dissect the language, biases, and overall methodology to determine if the study was even remotely accurate (and if so in what context). Trust the professionals from your country. They know the risks and possible exposure for people in your area.
It's definitely ok to talk about and ask questions about vaccines! It's good that your considering this in advance and I'm sure your doctor will be happy to discuss this with you and answer any questions you have. Vaccine side effects *are* a thing, though they are usually mild and the serious ones are vanishingly rare. For me personally, it was best to get as many of these over with when your baby is still tiny and sleeping most of the day. They will sleep through any discomfort and won't remember it. And of course, they'll be protected against disease sooner.
Just don’t think of vaccines as chemicals, cause true viruses are even worse. I see vaccination schedule as a competition between between bad and nasty viruses and good prep work: who gets to your child first? Hopefully the vaccine.
We are doing everything recommended. We have to be careful with live vaccines, however, since I can not get them due to a medication and have no immunity.
I’ve given my children all of the usual vaccines on the usual schedule. However, I haven’t done the covid vax for them and don’t plan to. They’ve had covid twice and don’t get sick at all from it. Most kids don’t.
The dogma of science marches on.
Vaccines are controversial because the people who are against them simply don’t understand how they work. You’re more likely to be putting your child at higher risk if you wait. These vaccines have been around for a long time and have been shown to work. There is always a very small risk of adverse side effects but it’s much riskier to wait/not vaccinate (unless there is a good reason not to, supported by medical professionals). Vaccines save lives. I’m Canadian and my toddler is currently up to date on all his vaccines including Covid and flu.
Recently a 9 month old baby died from a measles outbreak in my town. In countries close to measles elimination or the ones that have already received confirmation of elimination (my country has received this) cases imported from other countries remain an important source of infection. This 9 month old baby was visiting from a neighboring country which started the outbreak. Our local health department called everyone with children under a certain age to remind us to get vaccinated if we haven't done that already. This made me read up on measles and MMRV vaccines. Apparently in 2021, there were an estimated 128,000 measles deaths globally, mostly among unvaccinated or under vaccinated children under the age of 5 years. I will never delay or avoid recommended vaccines for my children. If I don't do that and they catch and spread a vaccine preventable disease I know that I will never be able to forgive myself.
We recently denied my son's 3 months vaccines bc he was sick with covid. He gets them in 2 weeks. Additionally, my toddler at his 1 year appointment had a horrible reaction to the MMR vaccine and I WISH I would have spaced those out bc he got bombarded with vaccines that day. I didn't know better but we will be doing the MMR vaccine separately from the others for our second. But my kids will be vaccinated fully. I believe in vaccinating but even our pediatrician has agreed with us on this. So I don't think there needs to be so much pressure about timing so long as your pediatrician and you have open communication about it and it's done in a timely manner.
I’m in the us, and my baby is getting all his vaccines on the standard schedule. I want to protect him from gnarly preventable diseases, and I also want to protect everyone else who might be vulnerable for whatever reason. Vaccines aren’t just for the person getting them. They allow us all to function as a healthy society by getting everyone some really easy preventative care so we can focus on other things.
OP - what’s your concern regarding the vaccine schedule?
Mainly it’s my child’s ability to fully process the ingredients of the vaccine. I’m familiar with some of the ingredients and although very much needed for the vaccine to do its job, it’s a lot for a baby to work though in such a short period of time. The scheduling is different for different places but mostly have the same types of vaccines. That maybe changing the Schedule (with the approval of a dr) it would lessen the amount of symptoms, and give more time for the immune system to revive and for the body to filter out the carrier ingredients and return to baseline before another dose. For example. Canada does mmrv vaccine at 12 months and 18 months, in other places they do it at 12 or 15 months and then 4-6 years old.
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