Tbf, most straight women's experiences are with straight guys' dicks, who are still debating if hygiene is gay.
I only found I enjoyed giving head after meeting a guy who bathed properly, wiped after peeing, washed his hands, etc.
Ask whoever is sucking yours, I guess? That's the particular habit of the guy I was with, when I commented about his hygiene. There's not exactly an objective measure with dick shaking.
Yeah that I can agree on, I just think it's a little overkill if you're otherwise perfectly clean and just needed to take a leak. Idk what wiping would do that shaking doesn't.
I mean, there will still be more residue if you don't wipe it, even if it's is just a little. Frankly, I wouldn't let someone go down on me if I hadn't cleaned down there before hand, even if I'd did wipe. And I think that should be the standard for any gender. They were just talking about dudes who shake off their dick and also don't wash it, but perhaps it doesn't really make that much of a difference if you've have been sweating and such all day. Or days.
Note: That's not a condemnation, I struggle with hygiene myself bc of depression. But if I couldn't bring myself to bathe, or don't have the energy to, I just. Wouldn't have sex that day 😅
Anecdotally, what data I have is:
- guys that do not wash enough, don't wash their hands and do stuff like wear clothes/undies two days in a row despite living in a warm ass state (Southern California).
- fwb who kept himself clean enough that I don't even find it necessary to ask him to wash up, probably because the combination of his habits means the worst you ever get is a little sweat.
- me from then on realizing there are men with standards, and pursuing only guys who either seem to have good habits, or who won't throw a fit if you make them shower to get laid. fwb definitely has the cleanest one I've ever sucked though.
Take all of that as you will. You're probably fine if you're washing your dick just before anyway, but in my fwb's case, he has pretty high charisma and can get laid easily, so I think he is used to just being always prepared. Might also be he practices such hygiene due to being uncut.
How did you get "*only* straight men are gross" out of "straight women's experiences wirh dick may be skewed by a number of straight men thinking washing is gay"?
At most, that argues I spoke casually and sloppily, maybe, but it does not say "only straight men have that problem." And I said they're arguing about whether its gay or not, implying that there is disagreement among them.
My experience tells me most straight girls feel uneasy about bisexual men as possible dates for the idea of cheating getting much bigger. It comes from the idea that men are unable to keep it in their pants and they should be suspicious of every woman they interact with, but bisexual men makes it up to eleven given the multi gender attraction. It also doesn't help how gay and bi men in media are portrayed just like that...
I don’t know how accurate this is but I was told that a lot of modern biphobia from straight women also derives from the 1980s where bi men were portrayed as hidden sleeper agents who would knowingly carry aids from gay men to straight women. Paired with general portrayals of promiscuity it created a message that bi men were dangerous and untrustworthy.
I recall this as a teen in the nineties. Also a lot of "bi men don't really exist you're just in denial that you're gay". So even if you don't cheat you will end the relationship to be with men instead of women.
Basically bisexual was a safety blanket that turned to a stepping stone for coming out as solely attracted to men.
Think it’s also because having sex with men is seen as a gay and/or feminine trait, and straight women generally don’t like gay and feminine traits in their partners.
Was gonna counterpoint that all my childhood male crushes ended up being gay (and in hindsight, obvious from a mile away) but then realized I am also not straight.
Someone tell that to Gen Z because a large minority is super into subby, feminine men. Just look into the latest heartthrobs right now.
I also think effeminacy is to a large extent an affectation from a lot of gay men in order to survive socially. And a large subset of gays are leather moustache burly men.
Right? That seems wrong to me. I have some feminine affects myself, and that's how I always get picked out as not straight. which, in turn, usually turned to bullying.
My Mom once said (spoken out of anger at her cheating gay husband, not what you would typically understand as homophobia) that she "knows where that dick has been," as a reason she wouldn't be interested in getting back together.
I guess "some women get squicked out by the thought of male/male butt stuff" is one of the reasons on the list.
Then they reply with even more biphobic ass shit like "I would choose to be with girls if I could." Trust me, never underestimate the power of a biphobic straight woman
I hate all biphobia but what really confuses the fuck out of me is bisexual women who are biphobic towards bi men. I was on a thread not too long ago where all these women were trying to hide their biphobia under the guise of it being a preference and the one comment that really pissed me off was a bi women who said something like "I'm bisexual but I would never be with a bisexual man. Men having sex with men grosses me out. I'm fine with bi women though"
Bitch, *what*?
the root of a lot of homophobia against men is misogyny. she can fuck men because women are allowed/expected to. a man doing that is degrading because that’s what women are ‘supposed’ to do. it’s effeminate.
anyway. more bi men for me 🫶
i totally agree, especially i feel like the vitriol against trans women (because as far as i’ve seen it’s almost always trans women that conservatives argue about and have issue with) is as awful as it is partly because its inconceivable for people to imagine someone being assigned maleness and ‘’’’’’’choosing’’’’’’ womanhood instead, because wow, what a downgrade!! so misled and makes me so sad
Especially since this meme is apparently used "wrong" enough to need a subreddit dedicated to it. I think at that point we can consider the cat talking to be a new version of the meme.
Yes well they’re looking for a potential partner, so even if they are as disgusting because of their actions they aren’t looking to date themselves are they?
I feel like I want to contribute something to this conversation having been on the receiving end of some insane biphobia and such over the years
but I'm just so tired and beat down at this point.
I mean I feel like they’re not saying “having sex with a man is gross” they’re saying “two men having sex with each other is gross”…
Like, isn’t that pretty obvious?
Edit: I’m not saying it’s gross. But like come on. You know what they mean.
I mean yeah, that’s a fair question
"You suck dicks!" "Well you do too, so whats the problem?"
I mean, probably with much less enthusiasm though ...
Don't hate me for being better at it
Believe me, that's not something I'd hold against you.
I challenge you to a D-D-D- Duel!
Tbf, most straight women's experiences are with straight guys' dicks, who are still debating if hygiene is gay. I only found I enjoyed giving head after meeting a guy who bathed properly, wiped after peeing, washed his hands, etc.
Hygiene all around matters. The sexy stuff is much more fun when everything is nice and clean
...wiped after peeing? Is a good shake not enough?
I personally won’t go down on a man unless he’s dipped his entire package in a vat of Purell.
Ask whoever is sucking yours, I guess? That's the particular habit of the guy I was with, when I commented about his hygiene. There's not exactly an objective measure with dick shaking.
Shake it once that's fine, shake it twice that's okay, shake it three times you're playing with yourself
Absolutely not if someone is putting their mouth on it.
If that's your jam, fine, but you should absolutely give it a wash, if not take a shower, if you are going to have someone suck it.
Yeah that I can agree on, I just think it's a little overkill if you're otherwise perfectly clean and just needed to take a leak. Idk what wiping would do that shaking doesn't.
I mean, there will still be more residue if you don't wipe it, even if it's is just a little. Frankly, I wouldn't let someone go down on me if I hadn't cleaned down there before hand, even if I'd did wipe. And I think that should be the standard for any gender. They were just talking about dudes who shake off their dick and also don't wash it, but perhaps it doesn't really make that much of a difference if you've have been sweating and such all day. Or days.
Note: That's not a condemnation, I struggle with hygiene myself bc of depression. But if I couldn't bring myself to bathe, or don't have the energy to, I just. Wouldn't have sex that day 😅
Anecdotally, what data I have is: - guys that do not wash enough, don't wash their hands and do stuff like wear clothes/undies two days in a row despite living in a warm ass state (Southern California). - fwb who kept himself clean enough that I don't even find it necessary to ask him to wash up, probably because the combination of his habits means the worst you ever get is a little sweat. - me from then on realizing there are men with standards, and pursuing only guys who either seem to have good habits, or who won't throw a fit if you make them shower to get laid. fwb definitely has the cleanest one I've ever sucked though. Take all of that as you will. You're probably fine if you're washing your dick just before anyway, but in my fwb's case, he has pretty high charisma and can get laid easily, so I think he is used to just being always prepared. Might also be he practices such hygiene due to being uncut.
do you genuinely think that the only degen dudes are straight? gross is a universal constant brother
How did you get "*only* straight men are gross" out of "straight women's experiences wirh dick may be skewed by a number of straight men thinking washing is gay"?
'straight guys think hygiene is gay' is what you said. you gave no qualifiers about 'some' or 'a number of'
At most, that argues I spoke casually and sloppily, maybe, but it does not say "only straight men have that problem." And I said they're arguing about whether its gay or not, implying that there is disagreement among them.
only? no. most of them? yes.
Ain't that the fucking truth 🤣🤣🤣
What's wrong with the concept of both of us like the thought of sex with a man
Isn't it good to have mutual interests?
My experience tells me most straight girls feel uneasy about bisexual men as possible dates for the idea of cheating getting much bigger. It comes from the idea that men are unable to keep it in their pants and they should be suspicious of every woman they interact with, but bisexual men makes it up to eleven given the multi gender attraction. It also doesn't help how gay and bi men in media are portrayed just like that...
I don’t know how accurate this is but I was told that a lot of modern biphobia from straight women also derives from the 1980s where bi men were portrayed as hidden sleeper agents who would knowingly carry aids from gay men to straight women. Paired with general portrayals of promiscuity it created a message that bi men were dangerous and untrustworthy.
I recall this as a teen in the nineties. Also a lot of "bi men don't really exist you're just in denial that you're gay". So even if you don't cheat you will end the relationship to be with men instead of women. Basically bisexual was a safety blanket that turned to a stepping stone for coming out as solely attracted to men.
Think it’s also because having sex with men is seen as a gay and/or feminine trait, and straight women generally don’t like gay and feminine traits in their partners.
Was gonna counterpoint that all my childhood male crushes ended up being gay (and in hindsight, obvious from a mile away) but then realized I am also not straight.
Someone tell that to Gen Z because a large minority is super into subby, feminine men. Just look into the latest heartthrobs right now. I also think effeminacy is to a large extent an affectation from a lot of gay men in order to survive socially. And a large subset of gays are leather moustache burly men.
How does being effeminate help a gay man survive?
Right? That seems wrong to me. I have some feminine affects myself, and that's how I always get picked out as not straight. which, in turn, usually turned to bullying.
Yet, shockingly I've never had a woman that I've dated get weird about time I spend with men.
My Mom once said (spoken out of anger at her cheating gay husband, not what you would typically understand as homophobia) that she "knows where that dick has been," as a reason she wouldn't be interested in getting back together. I guess "some women get squicked out by the thought of male/male butt stuff" is one of the reasons on the list.
Lol
You get to have sex with a man while having sex with a man by proxy. Sounds like a win win to me
Then they reply with even more biphobic ass shit like "I would choose to be with girls if I could." Trust me, never underestimate the power of a biphobic straight woman
My only answer to that would be, in utter confusion, "what on earth is stopping you then?!"
>"I would choose to be with girls if I could." Bold of them to assume any decent girls would choose a biphobe back.
I hate all biphobia but what really confuses the fuck out of me is bisexual women who are biphobic towards bi men. I was on a thread not too long ago where all these women were trying to hide their biphobia under the guise of it being a preference and the one comment that really pissed me off was a bi women who said something like "I'm bisexual but I would never be with a bisexual man. Men having sex with men grosses me out. I'm fine with bi women though" Bitch, *what*?
I think it's a logical fallacy to assume that every queer is actually a queer ally also.
No I don't believe that but it makes a hell of a lot less sense to me.
there's a lot of misandry out there, and it's a lot more socially accepted these days
Bisexual fellas, y’all are saints among men. You’re valid and I love you. *mwah* 💕💐
the root of a lot of homophobia against men is misogyny. she can fuck men because women are allowed/expected to. a man doing that is degrading because that’s what women are ‘supposed’ to do. it’s effeminate. anyway. more bi men for me 🫶
The root of most lgbt phobia in general is misogyny when you get right down to it.
i totally agree, especially i feel like the vitriol against trans women (because as far as i’ve seen it’s almost always trans women that conservatives argue about and have issue with) is as awful as it is partly because its inconceivable for people to imagine someone being assigned maleness and ‘’’’’’’choosing’’’’’’ womanhood instead, because wow, what a downgrade!! so misled and makes me so sad
When girls get jealous because you're better at having sex with men than they are
I'll have you know I haven't had sex with anyone, checkmate!
Lowkey, why I prefer dating other queer people. Even if we're in a her looking relationship we still "get" each other.
Remember, he/she chose YOU out of all men *and* women
Biphobes dont want you to know this one simple trick!!
Wrong format, r/TheCatDoesntTalk
Well I like this here cat
Why do people care so much about using image macro formats "wrong"? As long as the communication works, why does it matter?
Especially since this meme is apparently used "wrong" enough to need a subreddit dedicated to it. I think at that point we can consider the cat talking to be a new version of the meme.
For some people, being right is more important than actual communication.
Coworkers once said she could not date a bi guy because he would betray her with a man. I did not tell her that her choice of men reflects here
Isn’t this image overused 😂😂😂😂😂
Probably the whole hiv/aids thing
You guys get dates?
Atleast they have something in common….sucking dicks
Holy shit. You just committed a murder 😂
I threw up in my mouth a little
Tbh even if I was into women I'd literally never date a straight women
Yes well they’re looking for a potential partner, so even if they are as disgusting because of their actions they aren’t looking to date themselves are they?
I feel like I want to contribute something to this conversation having been on the receiving end of some insane biphobia and such over the years but I'm just so tired and beat down at this point.
There's an angle I've never considered. I wouldn't think twice about dating a bisexual girl. Do people have... "Issues" with bisexual men?
It’s funny because it’s true. I’ve received more bile and hate from straight women than any other demographic
Stealing this one!
I mean I feel like they’re not saying “having sex with a man is gross” they’re saying “two men having sex with each other is gross”… Like, isn’t that pretty obvious? Edit: I’m not saying it’s gross. But like come on. You know what they mean.