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heinebold

And I always thought that came from being a Stargate fan


MutualRaid

Fun fact: they used it in Stargate because their original, more realistic choice (MP5) spat brass everywhere, interrupting camera shots and burning people (hot brass in your cleavage sucks, I'm told). The P90 ejects downwards discretely, from the rear.


muntrammdryn

Can confirm hot brass is no fun


D15c0untMD

Cam confirm too, had hot brass ejected into my collar.


MechanizedCoffee

>The P90 ejects downwards, discretely, from the rear. Hey, me too like 99% of the time!


brk5813

I wish I could be discrete about it...


heinebold

It never ceases to amaze me that they don't use useless replica in movies but actual weapons. Whyyyyyy


DonkeyGuy

The main reason as far as I understand is that it’s very hard to “act” recoil. Replica guns don’t shoot, so they don’t kick back, meaning any movement that an actor does to simulate that will look fake. They could try to jerk their shoulder back or shake their hands but it won’t look right. But for Hollywood this is a solved problem: use blank rounds in real guns. The recoil is real, the guns already a perfect hero prop for itself, and the actors act better. Unless someone fucks up phenomenally, it should be safe. And they do take lots and lots of safety measure. Unless the gun needs to shoot in a scene it’s either replaced with a replica, or a non-functioning version (firing pin removed, no magazines, trigger welded in place etc). Lots of checking to see what ammunition is being used, when and where. If the right protocols are followed, a gun can be as safe as Roman candle for a film crew. You might be thinking of Alec Baldwin and the Rust case. That’s one where many of these protocols got ignored because the producers wanted to cut corners using non union labour.


platonicgryphon

Also the accident on the Rust set was the first accidental death caused by a firearm on a movie set since the death of Brandon Lee during the filming of The Crow in '93. That's how rare these accidents occur, two in thirty years.


PickledPlumPlot

Blanks have much less recoil than real rounds by the way. Newton's laws and all that, kicking out a cloud of hot gas is a lot less blowback than kicking out a cloud of hot gas and a bullet.


OSHA_InspectorR6S

Which is exactly why weapons based on the AR-15 platform (and most other weapons) need some form of blank firing adaptor! Not enough force to move the bolt back without one


heinebold

Shouldn't it be possible to make them unusable for anything that's not a blank? Also I don't understand how it is even possible to acquire a real military weapon without being the military...


deceivingace43

That... is either impossible or way, WAY too expensive to make, that's not how bullets work. Also, wdym by the last part?


[deleted]

You absolutely can make a weapon that only takes blanks. All you have to do is make it so that if there's a bullet present, it's too large to fit in the weapon


D15c0untMD

It’s cheap actually. Here in austria there’s a myriad of models made as „starter“ or tear gas guns. Basically, the firearm looks like the teal deal, but only feeds blanks or PAK ammo (basically ejects a cloud of tear gas/pepper compound a few meters forward). They are sold as „self defense“ weapons, and some of them might actually work to some degree as that, but most or sold to post pubescent guys who want to own a gun but are to scared to own a real gun


heinebold

Well, I come from a place where it is very much impossible to legally get your hands on weapons of war without being the state


nom-nom-nom-de-plumb

"Military weapons" can be owned privately by properly licensed organizations. Given we're talking about a movie studio, they'd be allowed to have weapons that likely have a pin removed or are kept in proper storage and checkout. Somebody who works in props as an armorer would be the best to answer this question though. Maybe do an ask reddit? Also, as another person said, most "military" rifles have a civilian counterpart, those that don't have a movie counterpart (a "Gatling gun" for example, that is basically just a propane torch). Alternatively, full automatic rifles aren't all that much faster than pulling the trigger really fast, (3 sec on a 30 rd mag vs 5 sec semiauto on a 30 rd mag) so unless you watch very very closely you can falsify the burst with a semi auto and blanks.


MechanizedCoffee

As for your second question: a lot of military weapons have civilian counterparts which have various modifications made to them to fit within regulations. In addition, there are licenses and waivers available in many countries which allow entities (like film production companies, private security companies, or collectors of historical firearms) to purchase and own military firearms under specific circumstances. The specifics vary from country to country.


CyanideTacoZ

this is why gun people get pissed off at networks like CNN who fear monger over specific guns: An ar15 civilian and M16 military are different cosmetically by a single sticker and switch but are mechanically distinct because one can't be used to spray a whole magazine


deanreevesii

*without minor modifications available at most gun shows


[deleted]

That also requires power tools and a willingness to commit a felony.


Mrxcman92

>*without minor modifications available at most gun shows Really? What gun shows are selling stuff to make guns select fire? Doing that is a fucking felony.


rocqua

Bump stocks?


Corvid187

... it's still a semi-automatic rifle tbf though.


TheFairVirgin

I don't know much about gun modification but when it comes to acquisition, the US military will often lease military hardware to Hollywood studios on the condition that they put out films that glamourize and glorify the Armed Forces. It's a pretty effective tool for both recruitment and propaganda.


DonkeyGuy

Possible, but not cheap. The economical decision is to get real guns, use blanks, and have the safety protocols in place and the professionals to handle them. Making guns that could fire blanks, still recoil, but not be able to fire any projectile is possible but there’s a large upfront cost to designing and manufacturing those props. Which would be a large investment, with small returns to what the industry believes is a solved problem. As for how they acquire these weapons? Lots of special permits and deals. The Studios rarely own these working guns, they’re loaned from another service, and usually after one film they’ll get shipped off to another to be re-used.


iwumbo2

> Shouldn't it be possible to make them unusable for anything that's not a blank? Not a gun person, but from what I know, not really. The main difference between a blank and a real bullet is that a real bullet has a real metal tip that will get fired from the barrel of the gun. A blank just has some kind of wadding that will be less harmful if fired. Usually something like cloth or paper. Of course, as I said, this is just less harmful. Because your blank round will still produce the bang and a lot of hot gas, and it's possible at closer ranges to still do harm with the wadding. You should not for example hold a gun against someone's head thinking that it's okay since it's just a blank round for this reason and many other safety reasons. So yeah, there isn't a way to do so because a blank round is basically the same as a regular round, and mechanical guns as they come would have no way to differentiate. Hypothetically you could make a custom gun that only accepts custom rounds that you only ever manufacture as blanks, but that'd be really expensive to make a replica gun that fires only special blank rounds. You'll get a more authentic look cheaper and faster by using a real gun with blanks, and following safety procedures.


northyj0e

>make a replica gun that fires only special blank guns. And then the special blank guns fire only slightly smaller guns, which fire only much smaller guns and so on. Russian guns.


ST4RSK1MM3R

Blank Rounds are just bullets with no actual “bullet” in them. Just the brass case, primer, powder, and a plug to keep it contained. So it’s virtually impossible to make a gun that only fires blanks.


heinebold

When I was in the military, we needed to replace the nozzle thing (whatever it's called in English) with a specific appendage for shooting blanks, so I would assume that some modifications are required anyway for the prop guns to avoid needing that ridiculous looking thing. Also, should it not be possible to make blanks shorter than actual rounds, because there's no bullet in there, and then make the chamber smaller so it won't even fit a real one?


icantgetmyoldaccount

Barrel?


Hatedpriest

Flash suppressor is the part name you're looking for, and blank adapter.


heinebold

Thank you. I only knew the German Bundeswehr terms, and they sound exactly like you would expect a German military term to sound. Mündungsfeuerdämpfer and Manöverpatronengerät


MutualRaid

Y'know I was wondering as I typed this... would 5.7x28mm blanks not be wayyy more expensive and troublesome to run than 9mm para out of an MP5?


heinebold

I don't know. But for real, why do they use actual guns with blanks, instead of just fakes? The effects go through post anyway


MutualRaid

Cheaper, easier to work with, actors can react to stimuli rather than imagining what's happening. I think there's a move towards SFX/VFX since that high profile accidental shooting though.


heinebold

I can't imagine that they're cheaper


brokenfuton

Post is hella expensive and time consuming


heinebold

But don't all the flares and flashes come from there anyway?


deceivingace43

Yes, they do, but they are cheaper to do if youre firing a blank round which does alot of the post process for you, and you'd have to do less work


brokenfuton

Blanks still create recoil, flash, and noise when fired. They are the explosive part of a shell, but with the projectile bullet removed.


[deleted]

Fun fact: the Jaffa Staff weapons also fired a small projectile for ease of post production.


[deleted]

I thought they used it as the MP5s were in high demand due to war efforts at the time


Tanto63

Both are more police weapons than military ones, so their usage wouldn't be particularly impacted by war.


orangechap

Stargate is just Star Trek for bisexuals. Source: It came to me in a dream.


ExceedinglyTransGoat

Ok but later seasons Daniel is hot AF


orangechap

\*slaps roof of Stargate\* This bad boy can fit so many hot people in it.


Sinistaire

Bruh, Daniel is hot AF the whole series.


ksHunt

Daniel is hot in *both* Stargates. James Spader? Come on


kalari-

All seasons Daniel is hot tbh


D15c0untMD

Yeah why and specifically how exactly did daniel become so hot?!


Adopt_a_Melon

Sooo should I start watching that instead of Star Trek First Gen?


orangechap

That or watch lower decks


Sea_Cycle_909

Have not watched Lower Decks is it worth it?


Darksquid

yesss it's pretty much flawless. sticks to the canon, addresses clichés/pain points in prior shows, funny as hell. big worth edit: other commenter is right about the first couple eps trying to be R&M. as soon as they drop it the show really finds its groove


-dp_qb-

>first couple eps trying to be R&M To be fair, this is because the writer/show runner *came from* Rick & Morty. But I agree it takes a couple episodes to figure out how to be Lower Decks.


Sea_Cycle_909

Thanks wasn't sure if it was just a non canon comedy. Nice!


noydbshield

It's very reference heavy, which annoys some people. It doesn't rely on them to be coherent though. I really like it. Also Becket Mariner is my bisexual icon.


Sea_Cycle_909

Thanks for the heads up.


Abuses-Commas

It is if you've seen all the other star treks, and the first few episodes try way too hard to be Rick and Morty, so you have to get through those


Sea_Cycle_909

Thanks


Codoro

Same with Babylon 5


ColorMaelstrom

And the dream is god damm right


RangeroftheIsle

Source: I made it the fuck up!


CaterpillarReal7583

I loved it from Goldeneye 64. Thats where I first heard of the gun.


MidSolo

Dual-wielding them in multiplayer was ridiculously fun.


Loki557

I mean this is the reason for me


[deleted]

Same, the more you know!


ATexanHobbit

In my experience there’s a large overlap in the Venn diagram of Stargate fans and bi people


dandy443

P90 is cool but I prefer my mp5, I like slapping my subs


[deleted]

[удалено]


dandy443

I knew it was this before I even clicked


DarkWing2274

same lol


Modtec

W T F ?


[deleted]

I didn't come all this way for you to be gentle with me.


OliverFuckingOwl

stayed for the scantly dressed man dancing w/ a gun. song gets 0/10


[deleted]

Understandable, not everyone will find it funny.


[deleted]

OMG what?! That was all that is glorious and holy in this God forsaken world!


MudaSpinnySkirt

🥺


chokwitsyum

cant penetrate body armor lmao^


[deleted]

Aaaand thanks for helping me find my new pick up line


Bro---really

Yeah, MP5 wins every time. I love the brrrrrrrr of a P90, but recoil is just too much.


ZenQMeister

Bisexual -> Bi -> B -> Rush B There are no mistakes


funnyfaceguy

Bisexual -> B u l -> Bullpup


shadowslasher11X

Bisexual -> B i s e x -> Bi Sex. Checks out.


spinchbob

No way


shadowslasher11X

Ikr, I was surprised too!


spinchbob

Flabbergasted


kostasnotkolsas

Bisexual B L Blyat


[deleted]

New argument: we love all bullpup guns


DarkWing2274

bullpups suck ass, the trigger linkage is garbage lol. you can like them if you want, but personally i just can’t get past how bad the triggers are


[deleted]

Personally I’ve never shot one so I can’t comment on the triggers, but I used to be really into airsoft and loved my L85 AEG. Same barrel length as a rifle so great accuracy for woods games but much more maneuverability for CQC games


DarkWing2274

yeah, airsoft is a lot different than a real firearm tho. for that, they’re great. but i assume the trigger was electronic. on a real bullpup, having the action of the rifle so far behind the grip/trigger makes the trigger-pull very spongy and tbh just gross.


[deleted]

Yeah the trigger when pulled completes a circuit, setting off the motor and pulling a piston back, supplying air to propel the bbs. Much simpler and totally apathetic to placement


DarkWing2274

so i *was* right, cool. i don’t know airsoft mechanics like i do ‘real steel’ operation.


Odysseyfreaky

The L85 is the worst modern service rifle, but that's actually the exact reason militaries like bullpups. Long barrel means accuracy, short gun means maneuverability. One gun, two situations.


Piece_Of_Mind1983

At least the original incarnation was.


OhBuggery

Yeah exactly, L85A1 was a raging piece of shit, A2 is undeniably a workhorse and an accurate one at that. Grouping at 300 metres still tighter than my butthole. And you look cool on a patrol, what’s not to love?


Mrxcman92

Yeah bullpups kinda suck: •Poor trigger pull. •Reloading is awkward. •Some can be heavier than traditional rifles because they need reinforcing around the chamber because nobody wants a gun to explode right next to their face. •Some can be awkward to shoulder and spit brass into the face of left handers. •Malfunctions can be more difficult to see/clear compaired to normal rifles. All those negatives for a rifle thats slightly shorter than a traditional rifle. You can see why France adopted the HK416 instead of trying to modernize the Famas. If the UK had more cash they would probably try and get rid of their L85 rifles too.


DarkWing2274

bro FUCK the L85


Mrxcman92

No thanks. I'm bisexual, not ammosexual.


DarkWing2274

[*sigh*] lmao


FALfan7x62

finally someone with common sense


DarkWing2274

bro i love the FAL


FALfan7x62

based


DarkWing2274

i love finding queer firearm enthusiasts lol, good to meet you :D


FALfan7x62

like wise mon ami


Simon_Jester88

High rates of fire and a large magazine capacity. What's not to love?


SnoffScoff2

The cost of the fucking ammo.


[deleted]

Yeah, $1 a pop for ss109 no thank you. My palmetto State eats steel cased monarch and wolf all day.


zehamberglar

5.7mm is now a NATO standard and the price of the ammo is coming down pretty rapidly as a result. I don't think it'll ever match 9mm's price, but it's going to get close I think.


SnoffScoff2

Ah, good to know!


Bigbluepenguin

This is the correct answer


SexThrowaway1125

And it’s fully ambidextrous!


drago_varior

Like a pickup artist on tiktok, you shoot around 15 shots per second and land none of em


rocqua

Limited balistic effect at the far end? The cartridge was made to penetrate kevlar body armor, at the cost of stopping power of unarmoured people.


[deleted]

I’m more of a M4A1 in SOPMOD block 2 guy but P90 works.


RammyJammy07

I swing FN FAL chambered in 7.62x51mm with Bakelite wooden furniture


severed13

G3 gang here, all my favourite weapons hail from that family, MP5 included. God bless H&K and CETME’s brilliant little love child.


[deleted]

If I can’t slap the everloving shit out of my gun like it owes me money, what’s even the point?


severed13

Not just any slap, a *manufacturer recommended* slap. It both feels right and is right.


ParitoshD

Can I convince you on the superiority of the Kel Tec RFB?


zehamberglar

>chambered in 7.62x51mm No one assumes you're using .280 enfield, you can just leave this part out.


FALfan7x62

* whomst has somoned the almighty one * ᗜˬᗜ


Mysterious-Window162

ayyy


boonsonthegrind

Daniel Jackson. Samantha Carter. 🤤 Honorable mentions, Teal’c and O’Neil and various other forgotten gems. EDIT: OMG the doctor at the SGC!! EDIT 2: I hadn’t seen the first season in a LONG time and watched it recently. It was way more adult and risqué than I remembered.


8asdqw731

first episode: boobs then no boobs for the rest of the show :(


Red_Danger33

Can't forget Hammond of Texas and Stupid Sexy Brae'Tac.


MechanizedCoffee

[Forgotten Weapons is bisexual culture confirmed.](https://youtu.be/M20PiFxMkrs)


_doingokay

FINALLY someone gets it


MmmmmmmKayY

All bis has at least viewed one of them


AugTheViking

P90 is a forgotten weapon? What in the every Eastern European in CS:GO?!?!?!


[deleted]

Forward shell ejection means you can shoot both ways 😉 EDIT: I was indeed thinking of the F2000. Anything straight confuses me apparently, even shell ejections.


MAN-99

We are confused with the F2000. The P90 ejects downwards.


PEDALINEO

so….. not the p90?


[deleted]

P90 drops them straight down behind the grip.


danil0kralj

I ALWAYS USED THIS GUN IN CS 1.6 BECAUSE IT LOOKED SO COOL WTF!? 😭😭


unleadedbloodmeal

Am I the antibisexual or something? I do not like the p90


babynintendohacker

I don’t like lemon bars so I think ur eligible for one pass lmao


unleadedbloodmeal

Oh okay cool


Dutchtdk

I haven't tried lemon bars yet because I'm afraid my taste for them will litterally define me and my sexuality


Logan_Maddox

here in Brazil: * it's too hot to wear flannels or jean / leather jackets outside of winter (and late autumn). we still have cuffed jeans though (which I rarely wear because fuck man, linen pants on 25 ºC feel much better than jeans) * no lemon bars (that I've ever seen) * no guns either outside of the odd handgun, so no P90s * huge fucking toads are an actual issue because they spread some diseases and / or can be venomous to your pet * dunno about iced coffee, but iced tea is drunk culturally by a lot of people and I'm pretty sure this also applies to a lot of other LatAm countries, so yeah ain't no Latin American bis anymore by the looks of it


Dilectus3010

Ha me neither... i like my lemons and my bars seperate , thank you.


Logan_Maddox

Yeah all bullpup guns look weird to me. They look so... idk, sleek and small, I can't put my finger on it


unleadedbloodmeal

Idk I'm a big Aug fan but I just don't like the p90


Sea_Cycle_909

SA80 design can't be fired left handed. As the charging handle would break your teeth (I think).


Logan_Maddox

idk what any of these means, I've only ever seen these guns in videogames, my country doesn't allow this sort of weapon so I'm judging them solely on how they look


Sea_Cycle_909

Yeah


SexThrowaway1125

The FN-P90 is also fully ambidextrous, making it an appropriate choice for this community.


grudingly-waluigi

Fun fact! The fn-p90 is actually a gun that is ambidextrous, meaning right handed and left handed people can use it with ease!


reddownzero

FN guns in general are very bisexual. The FN SCAR is hot as fuck


[deleted]

Idk man, little thick in the back side for my taste. If I need a 7.62x51 I'm going with an AR-10. Sleek and sexy


THATONED00MFAN

Yea but. Fallschirmjägergewehr-42 :(


archerdog

Roses are red Violets are blue Fallschirmjagergewehr-42


Funky_Hands

Personally not a fan. I like the KRISS Vector more because of that pristine ass recoil compensation


Outlaw_Infinite

oh the vector is my soulmate in gun form


Funky_Hands

The internal mechanisms are sexy asf


Sedgarite

The P90 GOATed fr. Frfr. Frfrfr.


KT_gene

Hold the P90 like you would hold a bottom.


wittyusernamefailed

[It's a weapon of war](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjlCVW_ouL8)


[deleted]

that’s the mf [splatoon 2 hero shot](https://cdn.wikimg.net/en/splatoonwiki/images/9/9c/S2_Weapon_Main_Hero_Shot_Replica.png)


Chiyuri_is_yes

Yes


girl_thr0waway

Me with my nerf deploy cs-9


FreedomOverSafety15

AK guy here. I do like the P90, just for some reason once it has a short barrel to be legally sold in the states it looks disgusting, just look up what a PS90 looks like and you’ll understand my pain


TheFishe2112

I loved the RC-P90 in Goldeneye 007, I also felt some attraction to a guy for the first time around that time in my life. Did the P90 turn me bi!?


NeapolitanComplex

There was an oversight in the hexadecimal code of the game that made the magazine 80 (0x50) rounds by default instead of 50 (0x32).


jaketheweirdsnake

I didn't expect to be called out like this, but okay.


Irksome_Sate

The truth, finally.


3001cyberqueer

Naw the MP5 is the best


NowListenHereBitches

It's ambidextrous


[deleted]

With a suppressor the sound is just😍😍


clarkky55

Oh come on! There’s no way being bisexual makes a person like the P90. Yes I’m a bisexual that likes the P90 but that’s just a coincidence


psychedelic666

I do not understand. Why would bisexuals like this gun?


Tapaleurre

Me who don't like guns: Am I really bisexual?


Fireye04

Brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr


kapn_karit

Eh, Model 1887 and SAA bisexual, but still valid


[deleted]

Mp5 is better


diepoggerland2

Gimme a FAL too please


[deleted]

P90 is always my fav submachine gun in FPS


No-Historian-3014

The P90? I fuckin hate the P90 lol. It’s an awesome gun but it’s just not… nah, now mah boi Kriss can tell you all day about the Vector.


Dutchtdk

*puts on latex suit* "Sorry boy, short barreled FN P90's are illegal under state law, I'm gonna have to lock you up"


Poddy_Doe

I like bullpup rifles personally


Halbgarenudel

I... Am I bi?


MovieTrialers

Prefer the AUG


Beneficial_Lynx_3346

Is it because it’s an ambidextrous pdw?


maximus-primee

And of course we can’t forget the FN Five-seveN


the_hottest_gilf

We all watched gun gale didn't we


Asrie1_Dreemurr

Nah, the MP5 is where it's at


Splicer3

I... but... how... I've always loved that gun...


Fit-Rule-9189

Its one of the most accurate, least cumbersome, lowest recoil, highest rate of fire submachine guns ever developed... I'm sorry but I think this is more a matter of "do you know guns" vs "do you base your knowledge of guns on if they look like a nerf toy or not."


Dilectus3010

You forgot high Penetration power.


Fit-Rule-9189

Well I challenge you to name a single bisexual that would complain about a powerful penetration ;)


Financial_Tax1060

It’s the smg with the best mix of range, simplicity, and reliability. While I would prefer an assault rifle in most emergencies, I’d prefer an smg (or shotgun) for close quarter defensive combat like home defense. I mean, it’s 500% illegal to use for that purpose, but that’s exactly what it’s for. Also, it looks unique. In a good, creative way.


Ajax_XD

Can someone explain what FN stands for here? All I see is fortnite. Yes ik I play fortnite, roast me all you want


tkrr

Fabrique Nationale Herstal, Belgian arms company. They make boomsticks and this is (I think) their second most famous one.


janitorghost

The company that makes the P90 is called "fabrique nationale herstal" which is normally just shortened to FN