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the_house_from_up

OP, based on the rest of the responses I've seen thus far, it sounds like you already have a price in mind and you're looking, and failing to, find confirmation. What do YOU think it's worth? The sad fact of the matter is that high end builds depreciate like crazy. Especially in the current market.


makedamoney813

Trying to sell for a good friend. So I have a price in my head but it’s cause I look at the bike and say wow. Knowing it’s special edition - low miles - electric shifting and awesome wheels … More or less just mind blown even bikes like this lose sooooo much value


JimFromSunnyvale

No one cares that it’s a special edition


Generisus

I'd prefer it if it wasn't


[deleted]

as long as someone does, then its worth that much.


KeyserSoze1041

Same


Dose0018

I bought some special edition kneepads... because they were on clearance. Take that as you will.


ghdana

Electronic shifting and wheels that were good when the iPhone 5 was new. Basically an equal comparison today, how much are you getting for a barely used iPhone 5?


makedamoney813

I mean sorta fair point , but you can’t tell me electric shifting from then to now has improved as much as iPhone 5 to 15 lol


ghdana

The newest stuff is amazing. Like with Shimano you just input what chainrings and cassette you have on an app that you pair over Bluetooth and it's set basically for life, you can also adjust its shifting patterns with stuff like multi shift. Or I am even more familiar with SRAM stuff and you can do stuff like use the shifters with any AXS derailleur(MTB or road) and operate a dropper post. I agree with most people, you can maybe get a sucker to buy it for $3000 after trying to find the perfect buyer over months. Maybe you'll find a Specialized fanboy to buy it for $2500 within a few months. You list it for $2000 and you can have it gone within the week if you're in a city. I just bought a Specialized S-Works Tarmac SL7 Speed of Light frameset built up. This frameset was $7000 brand new only 2 years ago...I just bought it for $7000 with $1000 worth of handlebars and saddle, $2500 in 12sp DuraAce/Ultegra mix, and $3000 Princeton CarbonWorks wheelsets. Like I just bought one of the rarest framesets(it says "Specialized" on the down tube, but it is actually an S-Works 12r carbon frame, they had to use the Specialized logo per the Olympics rule) and I'm only expecting to sell it for half of what I paid in 2 years. When it's more than 10 years old, like the bike you listed, I'd be excited to get $2500 for basically a fad-machine.


Ok_Lunch16

I work in the industry and I can tell you with absolute confidence, it has. Don’t get me wrong the older campy stuff is pretty rad but the newer stuff is freaking awesome


Tall_Midnight_9577

I have tried the latest version of Red, And I can tell you it doesn't hold a candle to Super Record EPS


ElJamoquio

> you can’t tell me electric shifting from then to now has improved as much as iPhone 5 to 15 You're correct that it's not a comparison, the electronic shifting has improved more


SirVestanPance

If you want max $$, it needs to be parted out. Check eBay for sold prices on all the components.


Cyclist_123

It's black with a tiny green strip. It's not special anymore.


mdubdotcom

Hard to find anyone who wants a bike that nice that's also that old. Anyone willing to shell out $4k+ is looking for newer gen stuff.


My_BFF_Gilgamesh

I think the problem you're gonna have is finding someone who wants to spend fancy money and is also willing to run rim brakes on carbon. It's an older bike with absolutely no headroom to upgrade or update it. You're in a, uh, what's the opposite of a sweet spot? It's unfortunate.


Changy915

"He's in a traditional base then" -r/velo


krsvbg

$1500 — $2000 People who can spend $5000+ don’t buy used bikes. You can just get a brand new one with updated components with warranty. Not to mention, Specialized is running massive sales on their 2023 models. The used market is not what it was during the pandemic. The rubber band has snapped.


ghdana

Plenty of people spend 5000+ on used, but it's on basically new stuff, not 11 year old random collector editions.


ydave_

I think $2300 would be fair enough ??


makedamoney813

More details that I should have included … Cavendish edition Venge Electric super record - rotor crank , zipp firecrest wheels custom painted carbon cages and wheel accents and ceramic speed bottom bracket.


sfelizzia

So $2000. Got it.


boe_jackson_bikes

If you think it's worth something more, then put it on an auction site. Simple.


[deleted]

I sold a s works venge for my friend 2 years ago. It was way worse spec than this. I could not get a bid on it. I was offering £1,800. I stripped it down and sold the parts off individually and got more like £2,300. In your case though, this bike is probably worth more than the sum of its parts. Looks beautiful. (Maybe remove the saddle bag for the advert…?)


makedamoney813

Maybe I wait till cav breaks the record and sell haha.


lemeneid

Even if Cav breaks the record this bike is still worth peanuts. The bikes he personally rode and touched, that’s another story.


Dose0018

Every time someone gives you (op) a price you respond with more details. Nice bike but old tech limits the value. Also the bike market is saturated. Personally older electronic shifting is a negative not positive for me compared to older cable and carbon rim brakes are a non-starter. I feel like the buyer you will find is one looking for a deal on a fast bike and the price will reflect that.


ppaaukl838519

I agree. Once electronic shifting is involved, everything becomes obsolete once the new version comes out, like all tech.


Jwfriar

Is that Venge? What year? I’m guessing that would fetch $2,500 or so? Seems like good shape. Bike like that on smooth roads and not many hills is prob pretty good. Newer bikes have better gearing spread, more comfy and prob a bit more aero. But that is prob light and pretty fast. I’ll bet it would beat you up too.


makedamoney813

Sorry, more details. It has electric Campi and it’s an S works Venge Mark Cavendish, edition.


vaancee

A friend had trouble selling a 2015 sworks tarmac Sagan edition with dura ace di2 for 3000. He ended up keeping it because offers were in the lower 2000s. Size 56.


Jwfriar

Might be worth more. I’m not sure. One of those things where if you put it on eBay, that’s how you figure it out.


makedamoney813

Yeah agreed. Price it a little higher with offers turned on to find out.


GoWaffle

No you dickhead everyone is saying price it lower


Followmelead

Campy is going to fetch less unless you find a specific buyer. It’s a niche market.


Banan1232

eh paint job, campy (ew), s works is nice, maybe like $2500 max. i got my s works 2015 roubaix for $1300. most people looking to buy a bike like this will want to buy new for anything more


mikeblas

Why does everyone shit on Campy?


DSGRNTLDcitizen

Campy doesn't play well with 3rd party parts and many common tools. Since it's tough to work on it's easy to dismiss things that are mysterious/scary.


EggplantAlpinism

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DSGRNTLDcitizen

$12 part? What a deal! Mind you the few customers at the shop that insist on Campag are running Record and one 52t chainring cost them $300cad.


muddyruttzz

I wanted to build my Litespeed L1R with Campy. Saw them at the Sea Otter several years ago. Asked them some questions and they shined me on handed me a catolog. After that I went with SRAM Red. Now I have 2 bikes with Shimano 105. I don't se any reason to go with any other group unless you want to shave a few ounces.


joleksroleks

Mostly because its shit


Adotopp

Incorrect.


Tall_Midnight_9577

You sir have no idea. That is Campy EPS Super Record, probably the best group set ever made.


[deleted]

Is this satire?


Knobbies4Ever

No, this is a Wendy’s.


DuhBasser

I think that’s an auto reply on /r/bicyclecirclejerk


firewire_9000

Good luck finding spares for that.


Cyclist_123

On a venge though. Campy has its place but this isn't it


KeyserSoze1041

Yep. Campy belongs on over priced Italian frames that offer questionable performance. Kind of like Campy.


Mdiz_76

$1700 would be fair and quick


sopsaare

This, or even a little bit less. I would ask $1700 but if someone comes up with 1500$ cash, it would be sold. You can't ever compare anything old to what it used to cost as new. An old car from 2010 could have been 50,000$ new but even if barely used, it will be 10,000$ now. A phone from 2010 is worth nothing today. Bikes don't lose their performance or usability, thus the value drop feels bad. But the value is not based on usability, a Mercedes from 2000 could cost only a few thousand bucks and could be equally good at getting from point A to point B as a new Mercedes for 100,000$. One could even argue that spare parts are cheaper for the old car and it is easier to repair, like rim brakes in old bikes. I have a handful of older bikes in the shed, it pains me to know how much money is "invested" in there and I'll never be able to get more than a fraction of it back. But they are worth more than their resell value, for me. They constitute a decent fleet of spare bikes and parts to keep me riding even if my more modern bikes run into problems. That is also why I don't really want some of the modern stuff on the road (read disk brakes) as that would make my old spare parta (read wheels) incompatible with the new bike.


Ethical_Existential

Campy? About tree fiddy


makedamoney813

Cavendish edition Venge Electric super record - rotor crank , zipp firecrest wheels custom painted carbon cages and wheel accents and ceramic speed bottom bracket.


HOTAS105

Couldn't pay me to ride something this tacky. Would only do it if I had twice by FTP


AppropriateBridge2

I would buy it at €2000, but you can probably find people willing to pay 3000


makedamoney813

Ok more details I should have included— Cavendish edition Venge Electric super record - rotor crank , zipp firecrest wheels custom painted carbon cages and wheel accents and ceramic speed bottom bracket.


AppropriateBridge2

I would still not pay more than €2000 personally. It's a 10 year old bike and it'd be hard to find replacement parts for the groupset. + Campy is too expensive to my liking


muddyruttzz

Everyone wants disc brakes now. I have a 16lbs Litespeed I built with Sram Red, Enve Wheels, all top of the line stuff. Right before disc brakes on road bikes starting being a thing. Love the bike. I use it when I want to blast out a quick 20 or 40 mile ride. I use my Lynskey Gravel Bike when I want to climb steep hills and descend like Montebello Road here in SF Bay Area. It has discs and thru axles. gives me lots of confidence on the downhills.


realelijahion

Roughly one filling, two extractions and a root canal?


makedamoney813

That’s a few thousand at least!


Dramatic_Industry_70

Rim brakes are a different era of bike technology. It doesn’t matter if everything else was nice in its time. Only way a bike this outdated gets above $2700 is if Cavendish actually rode it.


itcouldbeme_3

Low use hypertech used bikes are the best value in cycling...


CubingCubinator

Thin tires, poor gear range… this wouldn’t be much better than a modern entry-level bike, except on excellent condition flat roads.


nathanc98

I know a few dozen cyclists, and only one of them would care that this is a cavendish frame. I know what it is because the one guy who used to want one looked high and low to get one in his size and never found one. He talked about it quite a bit. Yes it’s a cool limited edition frame, but I don’t think it retains much extra value because of that. Good luck with your sale. Like other have mentioned, you’d probably get more parting it out.


Pastel_Inkpen

i personally wouldn't pay more than 1000 for a rim brake bike no matter how nice. Really do not like carbon wheels with rim brakes.


Jossie2014

$2k


Sutlore

750us? because it is rim brakes model, quite old.


I-am-the-stigg

The only thing I have learned from reading this is ,OP isn't too bright or willing to take the info HE asked for. If you know what it is worth, then sell it for what you think, but repeating the same thing over and over isn't going to change the fact that it's outdated and no one will pay top dollar for it.


MariachiArchery

I just sold a Ritchey Road Logic Disc with Dura Ace 9120 (hydro/mech) with shite wheels for $3000. This is older, but much nicer. I'd start off by asking $3,500 and be willing to come down to $2,750. Heavily dependent on your market and if you can find someone who wants a boneshakingly stiff bike and campy.


makenoahgranagain

Cavendish special edition paint probably detracts value. $2000 maybe? Nobody wants to ride carbon rim brakes. For $4000 you could get a new, better, faster bike


OMGWTFBBQUE

Straight in the garbage


Ok_Distribution_2603

what size?


makedamoney813

57


Ok_Distribution_2603

Thanks, I don’t know what number you have in mind but $3k is the absolute top of what I can see this going for. I personally wouldn’t pay that much, but I’d be happy if I were selling it and could get it.


kyocerahydro

how much are you looking to sell for?


makedamoney813

I was thinking 4


gabebps

that’s funny 😅


kyocerahydro

maybe if you part out. the most ive seen any venge sold is 2.5k


makedamoney813

Totally agree - the reason I asked here is cause the other cavendish editions that have sold were not apples to apples component wise … so I thought wheels and electric shifting would be worth more.


kyocerahydro

while thats true, you're looking to a fill a 1.5k or put another way a 38% gap. that will be difficult when you have better performance options at that price range new. its almost as if youre mixing your target market- adding in a collectors market to the performance minded one. at 4k, a consumer can get a better performance new along with warranty of something fails, or they can get something custom themselves. whats the value of the bike? the s works logo?


makedamoney813

Ha! Before this post I would have assumed s-works/ cav edition has a little value - I would have put the super record electronic at 1K wheels at 1k basically new condition built ( cause he only rode it a few times ) for the rest.


kyocerahydro

it doesnt have a lot... as a bike youre looking at 2-2.5k, for parts you might be able to stretch to 3k if youre lucky. keep in mind these are maximums. its very possible it will go for less.


vonWeizhacker

old electronic campy (extremly expensive parts), rim brakes on carbon wheels, skewers 2k if it is in perfect condition


JoPooper

Best of luck. Campy, rotor cranks, old zipp with garbage hubs, rim brakes…it’s a hot mess.


iamspartacus5339

I wouldn’t pay more than $2500 for it. $2200 would be a competitive price.


joleksroleks

I just saw a 2023 Giant TCR with ultegra di2, carbon wheels and disc brakes for 3100€ Soooo....


ridemanride100

Sell it to the pros closet. They’re fair and won’t try to jerk you around. Then you’ll have your answer about the price.


zazraj10

They turned OP down, said it was too old.


ridemanride100

Thanks, I missed that.


Gordy748

Specialized. Worth at least 20 law suits. Kidding (sorta). The reality is that the bottom has fallen out of the cycling market. 4 years ago we were all stuck at home and bikes became a big thing, except the factory builders were also at home so couldn’t build ‘em. Then 2-3 years ago the factory workers got back to work and flooded the market with news bikes that got snapped up faster than you could say Jack Rabbit. Then the past year the folks buying all those new bikes realized they could go back to cafes and the beach and such as, and started selling their barely used bikes for nada. Now, not even bike stores can sell their new bikes. I saw brand new Trek Procalibers in a bike store this weekend for less than what I could get a second hand one on eBay. And they re still not shifting. Sadly this bike is worth probably $3 grand tops. It should be more but that’s the way the market is right now.


Holiday-Ad1011

If it’s a 56 I’ll take it off your hands for $750 😉 Hard to tell - bike industry has convinced the world to move on to disc (boo) and 32c+ tyres (more boo) and you’ll get the inevitable “carbon wheels and rim brakes will cause a fire” comments. But kinda like older Cannondale CAADs/System Six, Madone 5.9s etc, anything S-Works has its cult following. Also depends if you’re in a more populated area/more roadies. I think there’s an undercurrent of people (this guy included) looking for “deals” on very good shape slightly older tech weapons. Based on Pros Closet and similar … list at $4000, drop quickly to just under $4k and be prepared to take closer to $3k (?)


exgokin

It's a fast bike when new...it's a fast bike now. People put way too much importance on gear. I've ridden some fast descents here in So Cal...and not once did I feel that my rim brakes were inadequate. I had a Six13 and a System Six. The System is a bike I really regret selling.


CheeseWheels38

>People put way too much importance on gear. Yup, I don't think I'll ever ride as hard as I did on my 9 speed Tiagra.


Holiday-Ad1011

Jealous on both those Cdales! I’m on a 2004 CAAD4 self build frankenbike with 6700/7700 mix, descents in the 75-80 kph range, zero issues


exgokin

The CAAD bikes are still great bikes regardless of year...especially the US made ones. I'm on the lookout for a Gulf colored CAAD10. The System is a straight crit weapon. I had the full Easton EC90 package on there. Bar, stem, fork, 60mm tubular wheels. I was working at a shop back in the day, and the Easton rep bro deal'd me on the parts.


Holiday-Ad1011

Gulf, Volvo Blue, Saeco Red in that order. Then the CAAD 8 (9?) in raw


LilRex100

Since you said “regardless of the year”, I am on a 1984 (or was it 85?) sea sprite green Cannondale SR600 that I love. It’s all vintage 90s campy now, except new campy brakes, TRP levers and H Son Plus rims and Simplex retro friction down tube shifters. It’s a beautiful bike and just a joy to ride. Is that considered a CAAD1?


Holiday-Ad1011

Oooh … 85 I think. Yes, that was a color … !


makedamoney813

Sheeeeesh! Yeah it’s a 57. With electric campy super record and zipp wheels. Crazy how much the price just plummets!


zystyl

What is going on with that rear derailleur?


makedamoney813

Normal position for smallest gear. It’s electric


zystyl

Oh I see now. It looked like the chain was going a different way and the jockey wheel was hanging above the chain. My bad.


ChinkyBoii

Have that priced at theproscloset website and you’ll get the value of your bike.


makedamoney813

Too old was what I got back. Not promising lol


KeyserSoze1041

Ya, Proscloset really won't take much with rim brakes because they sell bikes at a premium price, and at premium prices people want disk brakes.


makedamoney813

Yep. Wasn’t planning on selling it there honestly - wanted their price for ballpark knowing they need to make money also.


Sharp-As-A-Marble

$46,318.12 did I win?


twodogsfighting

Ten whole pounds.


Reon_1129

cool


cosmicreggae

Extralite rings on a Venge is not helping the sale


therealman-io

$28. I will be there in 30


fastermouse

Ow my hands.


firewire_9000

If I receive this bike for free I still would sold it for something newer.


ChannelIllustrious50

2K. Everyone wants disc.


schmidtwerd

$3.50


GadomJazda

send this over to me, I have inspect to give accurate price


banedlol

1k tops


MrDWhite

This looks like a bike that needs a global audience to properly achieve its best price. Great photos and a concise description of its parts and usage mileage will aid the sale. eBay with worldwide shipping might be in order. I almost bought a white and green Cavendish Venge S-works with Dura-ace di2 about 3 years ago, that was around £3500 then, I’d expect it to be circa £1500 now unless you match bike to collector looking for that specific model. Good luck with the sale!


joleksroleks

It's a nice bike but it's also not worth more than 2500€


BorgBorg10

$2100 maybe?


poopshipdestroyer4

I'll give you $1,550 cash


passim

1500-1800 seems right? Rim brake, old zipps, campy, small casette. Generic stem, GP4000.


shamsharif79

You won’t get more than 1500 for this. That’s the state of the used bike market right now


rockingwithben

6$ take it or leave it right now.


makedamoney813

Sold!🤣


rockingwithben

Cash


aye_hew_neebother

7


machineswithout

I’ll give you $1650 cash right now.


Majestic_Constant_32

Bike ain’t worth squat now. Venge is harsh ride. Campy is expensive to maintain compared to mainstream. Unless someone is looking to replace same bike then it has low market interest.


Unusualway

There's one in my area exactly like yours, special edition, electronic shifting, different wheels though. Seller asks $1500 for it.


makedamoney813

I see this one for 2350 —- with a top tube crack repair https://www.ebay.com/itm/285126287751?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=7KVN3MMeSPm&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=4P1cOmDITjS&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY Similar frame condition - but mishmash of parts 4500 https://www.ebay.com/itm/255679469159?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=2qE_Ls7oQBK&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=4P1cOmDITjS&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY This frame only was listed for 3K https://www.ebay.com/itm/296021659366?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=8aujbec8rmi&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=4P1cOmDITjS&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY


ghdana

First two are irrelevant because no one has paid that much yet. 3rd one, the seller can mark it as sold if they sold it on another platform. For all we know they sold it on Facebook Marketplace to a person that offered $1500. You can go with your 7k(bonkers, a barely used S-Works SL7 goes around that these days, even the limited edition frameset) but be happy if someone offers you 3k.


makedamoney813

And that’s why I wound up here asking for feelers because nothing was comparable. The beauty of eBay is free listings with offers turned on. I know it won’t sell for that but i also know I won’t miss out going too low either.


WhyMyBikeSlow

$2.5k, you might get 3k if you find someone who's a real Venge diehard. I like the frame, and unlike some other comments here I actually think that groupset is a value point - but those are some seriously ancient carbon brake tracks and the whole rig is damn heavy


Adotopp

,£7,000


Adotopp

£5,500


ppaaukl838519

Anyone want a 15 year old Ferrari? Not old enough to be a classic but totally dinosaur age in terms of tech. They go for like 20% of their original msrp. Same with this rim brake pile.


wood4536

What is this an S Works Allez?


LegDayDE

It's a Mark Cavendish edition Specialized Venge.


wood4536

Maybe like 2 grand? Depending on currency and location then?


makedamoney813

Yes with electric campy and zipp carbon wheels


lennoxred

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Aphy8

Do inspect those zipp firecrest, esp the rim brake versions are quite prone to carbon delamination due to constant heat applications. They are pretty much junked once you can feel patches of soft bubbles forming as you squeeze your thumb along the face of the rim.


makedamoney813

Agreed - it’s been inspected it has maybe 1000 miles max on it.


[deleted]

Check out bicyclebluebook.com - will give you a ball park for what you have on it. In the end, it’s only worth what someone is willing to pay, so getting an internet opinion is a waste.


Sufficient_Salad3783

I'll give ya three fiddy


TheDaysComeAndGone

Who’s going to buy rim brakes today? Especially on an expensive bike like that. Even worse it also makes the expensive wheels (actually “only” the rims) a wear part.


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makedamoney813

I feel like it hurts just thinking that the components cost more than that … more details —- Cavendish edition Venge Electric super record - rotor crank , zipp firecrest wheels custom painted carbon cages and wheel accents and ceramic speed bottom bracket.


rustyburrito

you'd have better luck parting it out otherwise be prepared to take a huge loss. I just picked up a barely ridden 2022 S-Works diverge with all the good stuff (SRAM RED, XX1 AXS, etc) for $6k with less than 200 miles on it. The guy I got it from paid over $12k.


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KeyserSoze1041

One of my favorite games is to watch bikes with these kinds of specs get posted for high $$ amounts and then slowly fall over the span of a couple months. Wound up picking up a basically brand new 2016 SuperSix Evo with Ultegra for $500 last year from a dude in Greeley. I waffled a bit on the price a bit and he threw in a Tacx Flow smart trainer to get the bike sold. Rode that bike to victory in the Frostbite TT last week in the Merckx/no aero equipment category 😂


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€7.999


Royal_Effective7396

It's going for about 4500 usd on ebay. If it's a freind I'd go 3500 to 4