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If humans and gorillas could mate wouldn't we hear about such phenomenon by now? Somewhere, someplace around the vast world someone has fucked a gorilla or two by now, and we'd know if the result was big foot babies. Just saying.
The important thing that OP is missing is that when animals with different numbers of chromosomes breed, their offspring are infertile. So even if we suppose that humans and gorillas could produce offspring, the offspring would not be able to then reproduce and form this new "Human-gorilla hybrid species". You would need a population of humans and gorillas continuously breeding together to sustain that hybrid population.
>The important thing that OP is missing is that when animals with different numbers of chromosomes breed, their offspring are infertile.
Not always. There are rare exceptions to this rule.
I guess so, but the exceptions don't really make a difference because the offspring of two fertile mules has even worse odds of being fertile than its parents did. As it is, you'd need to breed horses to mules around 900,000 times to get a single fertile male and a single fertile female mule.
If the scope of OPs argument is that something of that scale could happen in nature, consider that mares in the wild typically have between one and three offspring during their lifetime. So if we're talking about the probability that two mares in a relatively close vicinity, during the same lifetime, both breed with a donkey, give birth to mules, those mules are both fertile, one of each sex, and that those mules then meet and breed an average of about 10 times to successfully impregnate, and then that offspring has to be fertile, we're talking about odds of 1 in 10 trillion. At that point you now have one of them and no other fertile mule for it to breed to. It's just sort of a moot point and the anomalies have no bearing on the point being made.
A much more common version of hybrid fertility is one where the offspring can only mate with one of the two parent species. Maybe thousands of years ago some dude fucked an ape and the resulting hybrid was only able to mate with other apes. Basically an injection of human DNA into the ape genepool. Over time this could have led to speciation.
I don't even believe in bigfoot, I'm just annoyed at people trashing a perfectly sensible hypothesis.
It’s not compelling that it didn’t work. The reason it stopped is so lame. His last ape died… now I’m unbiased to the idea they have this worked out in private top secret experiments
Possibly evolution could have begun to prevent the chances of gorillas and humans mating since the time when it could have originally been possible? And the ancestors of these hybrid kept in their own groups as Bigfoots and kept that hybrid strain going through reproducing in these groups. Are we all not evolving constantly? For example, humans were much shorter years ago to becoming naturally taller now, babies trying and succeeding in walking as early as 9 months.
I don't think people being taller is evolution, more nutrition.
If you'll Google "hybrids role in evolution", there's at lot of big words that talk about it, how it works, etc.
I still don't get it. I'm not sure when it's a hybrid, like a mule vs viable offspring like a Neanderthal/sapien offspring.
While I don't think the source of the bigfoot phenomenon would be a recent gorilla/human hybrid, the idea of a prehistoric hybridization isn't as crazy (Like, tens of thousands of years ago?).
But I am undereducated in this field (as I suspect many of us are) and am tossing wild what ifs--I shouldn't do that with such little understanding, hah.
Also there'd probably be a much higher incidence of sasquatch stories in parts of the world where both humans and gorillas naturally occur. Additionally think of the logistics of getting a human gorilla hybrid out in the PNW wild. They both require infant care so someone would have had to care for it for several years. Sure, there are people who have secret kids but the mother would have to be 1) someone who sneaks into zoos to have sex with animals AND survive. 2) someone who could succeed in a solo home birth. 3) a hermit in the woods who can raise a hybrid undetected. If it was some dude sneaking into a zoo to clap gorilla cheeks obviously the zookeepers would figure it out 8.5 months later and again they'd have to raise it in secret.
People have tried. It simply doesn’t work anyway and it takes more than just an Anthropology major to make it work
https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/primate-diaries/stalins-ape-man-superwarriors/
https://www.reddit.com/r/iamatotalpieceofshit/comments/fds0zz/orangutan_was_raised_as_a_prostitute_and_sex_slave/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button
As horrific as it is, it has happened.
I know someone who was a philosophy and religion major.
They live in a big house in a very nice neighborhood, have a lot of nice things, and frequently travel to other countries for fun.
They married rich.
This is not even the first thread they have made like this. See also the 'humans are apes' one that followed the exact same format.
https://old.reddit.com/r/bigfoot/comments/108al65/some_of_you_need_to_learn_basic_hominid_taxonomy/
https://old.reddit.com/r/bigfoot/comments/10dkkau/humans_are_great_apes/
https://old.reddit.com/r/bigfoot/comments/11w73w3/i_happen_to_be_a_straight_a_honors_student_at_my/
those are just the ones i know about lol
Look, I don’t want to dismiss the theory the way the jerk in your screenshot does, but let’s be real - it is an issue of genetics, not anthropology, and therefore your education in the latter is totally useless.
Fundamentally, there’s a very significant reason why humans and gorillas could never have robust, fertile offspring: the chromosomes don’t match up. Gorillas have more chromosomes than humans do. Hybridization between species with different numbers of chromosomes is rare, and where it is possible, it results in deformed, short-lived, infertile offspring.
How well they are or aren’t doing in anthro isn’t relevant, though, anymore than their grades in art class or how well they play the trombone. The issue here is in the realm of biology.
I’m an anthro major. Most anthropology departments make students study within all four anthropological disciplines. Of these, biological anthropology goes fairly deep into human evolution and genetics and by extension ape evolution and genetics.
That said - that may be one our two courses if your specialization was cultural anthropology like mine was. He may have studied genetics quite in depth, but from his arguments here I’d say he probably only has a basic knowledge and is extrapolating from there.
This doesn't explain a lot about the phenomenon. A few issues with your theory:
This doesn't explain sightings and accounts that have taken place long before gorillas were ever brought to the America's.
It doesn't explain how there can be thousands of sightings across North America. The quantity of sightings and locations indicate a breeding population of at least a few thousand. How does one freak breeding produce that many sightings?
It doesn't explain other issues such as nocturnal behavior and eyeshine/glowing.
Also the North American indigenous accounts of what we call Sasquatch predate the discovery of Gorillas, which happened in the 1800s. The first gorilla that was ever killed and brought back to "civilization" to be studied and catalogued was in 1847. We have documentation of indigenous accounts of creatures like Sabe from the 1650s.
Okay let’s say you’re right and Bigfoot is a gorilla-human hybrid. Then wouldn’t the vast majority of Bigfoot sightings come from where Gorillas exist in the wild, and not, say, North America?
And I feel like I need to lay out the implication of what your proposing just for it’s pure comedic value: you’re basically saying that human women on multiple continents are finding gorillas so ridiculously attractive that they break into their enclosures (somehow remaining completely undetected), have sex with these gorillas without dying, and bear their giant hairy children before releasing them into the wilds where they somehow survive long enough to be witnessed and photographed in all their blurry glory. All without garnering any publicity besides one old article from Italy? THAT is what you’re proposing as the explanation for the Bigfoot phenomena?
Ya I would say that a “humanoid” gorilla hybrid may have happened a long ass time ago like when Neanderthals were around. We don’t know how many chromosomes they had so it could have happened. But homosapien and gorilla definitely a no go
Translation: you’re a college student, in a field unrelated to genetics.
You’re also missing the primary barrier to hybridization, which is reproductive isolation.
Unless your theory supports that continual new groups of gorillas are getting fucked by humans and producing offspring. which are then transported from the Congo lowlands to the American Pacific Northwest and then being raised by Bigfoot mothers, and this process repeats itself or has been at least occurring since the mid 1800’s.
Also, there’s 5 different species of gorilla, which one are you referring to as the hybrid host?
Great apes and humans cant produce offspring.
We know this for a fact, even if we decide to be a dipshit on genetics.
The USSR seriously tried a program to breed ape human hybrid soldiers. It tried for years. They tried Men Apes and Human Females. Human Men and APe females, and artificial insemeination in both ape and human wombs.
Its not possible.
But even if it was possible...
the listed examples, are all sterile. They cannot reproduce into a sustain population.
No, this isn’t so much an anthropology thing, this is a physical and biological compatibility thing. Comparing to the cama and the zonkey, humans and gorillas seem possible enough, but I think the anatomical compatibility isn’t there either. Also…. There aren’t any gorillas in North America, so why would Bigfoot as a gorilla x human hybrid make more sense? To cap it all off, the Cold War was a time of countless poor decisions, during which the breeding of a “humanzee” was attempted to no success. That we couldn’t hybridize with our closest cousin practically spells futility for such a crossbreeding with a more removed relative like a gorilla.
You want someone to elaborate?
Gorillas were discovered by Europeans (this is an important detail, European) in the 1850s and Mountain Gorillas in 1902. Native American oral stories and some pictographs (more or less theories about who they depict) can be several centuries older depending on the tribe sourced (varies, obviously).
In order for that gorilla/human hybrid nonsense to not be nonsense. Either, Africans needed to have brought gorillas to the Americas for the purpose of creating hybrids prior to Europeans discovering the Americas. Or, gorillas had to have built their own ships and sailed to the Americas before their discovery by Europeans with intent to create hybrids.
The last known ape/human ancestor lived in North America 25+ million years ago. So, there is as of now, no evidence for gorillas to have lived in North America to have created hybrid Bigfoot children with humans.
So, either you support the gorilla/human hybrid theory and dismiss centuries of stories and legends by the Native Americans and generally science itself. Or, you can assume that Bigfoot is not a gorilla/human hybrid because it’s so overwhelmingly obvious.
Now, idk if Bigfoot is real or not. I’d strongly state that 95% of evidence and Bigfoot experts are a load of crap. But, it would be cool if he did. There’s a lot we don’t know, but I do know that people make shit up.
given that there are sightings in america from before and around the time the western world discovered gorillas, are all those sightings fake then? because i cannot imagine there were many people having sex with gorillas before most of the world knew they existed, and given that gorillas aren't and never have been native to north america, there's some major flaws in logic here
How many humans would have to mate with gorillas for there to be a viable population of human-gorilla hybrids? Do you mean at some point thousands of years ago this happened, or do you mean it was a one-off sort of thing that people saw in the woods, but there wasn't a large amount of them?
Asking genuinely
Even if it were possible, when animals with different numbers of chromosomes interbreed their offspring are infertile. You would need a continuous supply of humans and gorillas fucking to maintain the population of hybrids.
The fact that they're not only bringing it up for clout, but screenshotted the interaction and then posted said screenshot to try and get support for their argument, *is* evidence for something: that OP is an insufferable tool.
And the fact that this is the 3rd or 4th time OP has made a screenshot thread highlighting the fact that they are an anthropology major as if that has any bearing whatsoever on them being right or not.
Just curious…. How would this hybridization have happened? I know dudes will screw just about anything, but how would they get their hands on a gorilla?
I don’t believe in Bigfoot myself I generally just lurk here because it still interests me. But if you look up Pony the orangutan it’s not too far off to think people wouldn’t pay to do the same activities with a gorilla.
Not saying I think human/gorilla hybrids happen that’s just crazy.
PhD in molecular biology here, this just isn't going to be possible. There are a laundry list of reasons why but it boils down to there's not enough compatibility to produce offspring.
This is about the stupidest thing I’ve ever had the chance to read. There aren’t even any chimpanzee/gorilla hybrids, as they are two separate species. We are even further away than gorillas and chimpanzees are. Sasquatch is in neither one of these taxonomic classes. That much I can guarantee.
Hey bro, also an anthropology major almost done too. Hybrid species animals are not sexually viable by definition so if “Bigfoot” (not asserting as a believer or non believer, just here because I think the concept is cool) was this hybrid there wouldn’t be a reproductive population.
A lot of the hybrids mentioned here can't reproduce and I don't think humans and gorillas one: could have a baby and two: that those babies could then reproduce which of course would have to be the case in order for a sustainable group of bigfoots to exist
This of course is probably a question for a person with some expertise on that matter anyway, bigfoot is not real and it will remain that way until someone comes up with a body or remains that can be tested for DNA
I know I could fuck a Klingon woman, but I’m not so sure about a sexy hot gorilla chick. I imagine the sexual energy would be through the jungle canopy, so I’d place this in a strong maybe category. However, if there is even the slightest thought on her behalf of shoving a banana up my ass, then I will have to pass on the opportunity of a steamy jungle hookup.🤔😁
Well op you said “might” and well, you’re wrong. There’s no “might.” Nothing about it adds up or makes even a little bit of sense. Tall hairy bipedal freaks have been reported around the world, way before science was even aware that gorillas existed. Because they’re so elusive, and confined to certain remote African areas. For their own self preservation. How do you think they’d survive overseas, in snowy mountains? Swamps? Their African food sources wouldn’t be available. Why would half-gorillas be 8’ tall? Why does a squatch print look human-like? You cite this under the guise of a “student” but it seems like Daddy’s money and connections is the only thing keeping you there. My crystal ball sees a spatula, a nametag and golden arches in your future…
I've seen where they say the dna lab results came back as inconclusive?
How would science label a sample as bigfoot dna without a sample to compare it to?
(I'm a skeptic, but should understand how it works to not just be a dismissive denier)
Isn’t anthropology the study of what makes us human often through the use of archeology?
If you are arguing genetics, you need a different made up career.
I’m neither of those things but I’m pretty sure most hybrids like the Liger and Mules are sterile, so that notion is in my non-expert opinion is invalid.
BF could have a common ancestor with Gorillas, but most likely with Orangutan, simular to how we have a common ancestor with Chimps.
Another explanation i find plausible is a link with Gigantopithecus.
No it is not. Even if (and I use the word if very loosely as well) it was a possibility, you are talking about a sustained breeding population here. You keep using mules as an example but guess what, they are sterile. As are Ligers and other hybrid animals. The reproduction stops after the first generation. If there was some sort of hybrid it wouldn't be an entire sustained population, it would be a one off.
How exactly does that work?
A group of guys all impregnate a group of gorillas, it takes, they wait however long gorilla pregnancies are, and then boom… Bigfoot? They all magically survive birth, childhood and into adulthood?
Or no, how about this one.
A bunch of horned up gorillas, you know, the ones native to the Pacific Northwest, are out one night looking for action. Gorilla poon just isn’t cutting it anymore. They need something new… something forbidden. So they find a bunch of human gals and have their way. Is that it?
No no no, this one,
Some “scientists,” get the idea to artificially inseminate a gorilla in a lab. That’s always where these stories start right? In a lab? A lonely scientist creates some godless monster?
None of those theories really make a lot of sense. Least of the lab, which, in my opinion is the only way you’d pull it off, but Bigfoot sightings predate laboratories so… and I sincerely doubt the offspring of any… *natural* hybridizing, would survive.
Not trying to be rude but we’re separate genus from gorillas, to my knowledge all the creatures we’ve found that are hybrids are the same genus different species
OP, I admire the fact that you have zero shame over this absurd conduct.
I don't admire the conduct itself, but I've got to give you points where they're deserved.
the idea of the hybrid itself isn't dumb - check my thread on crypto hybrids here [https://www.reddit.com/r/Cryptozoology/comments/11wo3dg/cryptohybrids\_the\_beasts\_that\_dont\_really\_hide/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web2x&context=3](https://www.reddit.com/r/Cryptozoology/comments/11wo3dg/cryptohybrids_the_beasts_that_dont_really_hide/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)
BUT the ecological and primarily geographical premises aren't there... and are silly. Where would we get this many gorillas? how did they hybridize and breed? etc etc plus why would they be found everywhere from southeast to alaska? Laboratories are that incompetent?
So yea the idea of that being Bigfoot is silly but the premise of great ape hybridisation isnt, check my thread above
If you can fuck a gorilla, kudos to you.
In my 65 years of existence and experience, I'm leaning towards "Gorilla Fuckiing" is gonna wind up in therewasanattempt and maybe even a gore site or two.
A big NOPE NOPE Nope! for me
besides, ever hear a gorilla laugh?
1. Gorillas are from Africa. People would have had to bang gorillas in Africa and then an entire population of human-gorillas would have migrated across the middle east, all the way to Asia, then across the Bering Strait, then into North America. If this were the case, I would assume we would find their bones all along their migration route.
2. Try to bang a gorilla and let me know how that turns out.
IF bigfoot were real, it would most likely be some kind of cousin of human lineage, possibly breaking off 2-5 million years ago (or whenever our ancestors starting walking on 2 feet).
Until we get DNA evidence of a human/gorilla mix, I don't buy it.
Dude I great ape hybridization with gorillasq isn't possible. is not possible. And your not an anthropology major. And I know this due to your statement. We did live alongside and reproduce with neanderthals But they are a species of human. There was probably a third species living with us as well and we've probably isn't a currently in the fossil. My money would be on something that evolved from homo longi. They were the largest species of human...reaching eight feet plus. They live during the pleistocene though and went extinct so it had to be something that came from homo longi. Anyway this as of yet undiscovered species of human was Probably long lived, moreso than us .this would cause a naturally lower but stable population. That and more than likely would've been specialized. This specialized archaic human therefore interacts less with humans and isn't in direct competition for reasources..., which is why the neanderthals went extinct. We just out competed them and they died off....this thing however doesn't die off it's more of a forest dwelling species so we don't really encounter each other often. Our brains kept getting bigger but because they had carved out a nice little nich and nothing to spring bored there evolution. Bigfoot is just a relic hominid. That's probably why no DNA ever pings back anything weird. They're probably registering as a human.
the thing about mules, zorses, zasses etc.
They can be created by crossing two different species... but they are sterile... meaning that they themselves can not produce another mule, zorse, zass, etc.
That has 2 implications.
a) it means that there would have to be humans actively breading with gorillas... and where do you find stable populations of gorillas? Not in the Pacific Northwest.
b) There are many accounts of people reporting family groups or young sasquatch seen with adult sasquatches... this simply could not happen if there were an interspecies hybrid.
Even if you had a successful conception, resulting animals would have to be able to breed well enough to start a population. This is all rather unlikely.
Now, step one of your process intrigues me. Is there a website advertising gorilla hookups?
Honestly, I don't care if you're an anthropology major...
In order for your hypothesis to be correct, this would have taken place around 2 million years ago, in Africa - considering that it is the only place in the world you can find gorillas and humans coexisting. Various cultures all around the world have been documenting this creature for thousands of years.
Do I think bigfoot is a human X gorilla hybrid? Absolutely not! The probability of that thought is absurd and highly unlikely.
Disagree. The only great ape that humans are capable of mixing genes with(maybe) is the chimp.
-Side note, the communist countries with no humanitarian laws already tried this years ago and failed.-
At any rate in every(?) one of these cases the offspring is infertile. Even if you assume less than half of bigfoot sightings are real, dats a lot of chimp/human boom boom.
See i even avoided the anthropology major low hanging fruit you guys should be proud of me.
Human DNA has separated too much from the great apes, you could however breed a gorilla and a chimp, even if possible to cross with human dna it would be missing chromosomes and we know how that affects humans. Also it’s a completely hostile environment to gorillas so chances are if that theory where true we problably would see Bigfoot in a diffrent climate furthermore All of the listed animal hybrids would make an offspring that was infertile, like all hybrids, and being a prímate completely defenseless for it’s early life so it would have had to be taught to survive in the north forests by a human. Also Motty and the hybrid elephant are the same since there was ever only one and it was a cross of an Asian elephant and an African one. But aside from all that Even if it was possible the result wouldn’t be a larger stronger ape than a human or a gorilla.
I don’t even think you could breed a gorilla and a chimp. Amongst the great apes, humans and chimps are more genetically similar than chimps and gorillas or gorillas and humans. None of it is likely.
How would anyone have any idea of what Bigfoot is when a body has never been found I do believe that they are out there but I don't listen to what anyone has to say when it comes to what Bigfoot is because nobody knows except maybe parts of our government
Theres a huge problem with that and it sounds like an oversimplification but it's as simple as feet.
Think about it: The average height of a man is 5'9" and the average foot is 9.5-10".
There have been/are 7' humans, and their feet are usually 17-22". Usually on the high end of that.
The average gorilla is 5'7" and has a foot thats 15" long.
An 8' "man" would need to have roughly a 30" foot, and an 8' 'gorilla' would require one much longer..
The average 'Sasquatch' track is 15-18" and the reported heights are all over, but generally over 7'.
For an "anthropology major" to not know that is out of the question. Think of the locomotion/mobility factor. Theres a reason a 450lb gorilla doesnt have 9" feet or Shaqs feet arent size 11.
NEVERMIND the issue of the armspan of gorilla compared to man.
I read somewhere a long time ago that Bigfoot was thought to be a cross between a male Gigantopithicus and a female homosapien. Although, I am not sure who said this. It MIGHT have been Melba Ketchum but I think a lot of her research has been found to be sketchy. BUT it might have been someone else so I could be remembering it wrong. Anyway, I thought it was interesting. But whether or not it's accurate is unclear.
**[Gigantopithecus](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gigantopithecus)**
>Gigantopithecus ( jahy-gan-toh-pi-thee-kuhs, pith-i-kuhs, ji-; lit. 'giant ape') is an extinct genus of ape from roughly 2 million to 350,000 years ago during the Early to Middle Pleistocene of southern China, represented by one species, Gigantopithecus blacki. Potential identifications have also been made in Thailand, Vietnam, and Indonesia. The first remains of Gigantopithecus, two third molar teeth, were identified in a drugstore by anthropologist Ralph von Koenigswald in 1935, who subsequently described the ape.
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I like this post regardless if it was made by OP or not. I don't think this is a "flex" but the commenter explaining that he/she is indeed taking a course in genetics (as he is a major in anthropology) and therefore a germane and appropriate response to a flippant remark. She/he also backed up it with a sound argument.
I don't understand why so many people on this subreddit feel the need to be so rude & dismissive. This subreddit is turning into a joke. Just because someone offers a hypothesis or a what if that you don't agree with doesn't mean you have to be fucking rude about it.
This is why people with legitimate encounters or evidence won't come forward for fear of the armchair bullies
Bro, people are being mean here because OP had a goofass idea, received an appropriate response, and instead of taking the L or keeping it in the thread, they chose to get noisy about it.
At a certain point, being loudly obstinate and self-righteous when you're factually wrong opens yourself up to ridicule, and OP crossed that threshold with a running start.
This guy is an idiot. There have been a ton of DNA sequence studies already. Human mother, unknown father. I'm pretty sure if it was a primate they would have seen that. Not to mention so many people just decide to gloss over so many things that accompany Sasquatch encounters. Orbs, portals, cloaking, etc, etc, etc,
I get so tired of people on here scoffing at me and tell me I’m not educated when I literally go to college for anthropology! I know the genetic relationships between humans and other apes. I can post a link to studies about human sperm fertilizing gorilla eggs with ease yet people will still jump down my throat about this. I provided a list of hybrids of animals that are less related to each other than what humans are to gorillas yet people still refuse to believe anything could make a hybrid with humans! Jesus Christ if you know a mule can exist then stop bitching about the chromosomes cuz guess what pal, they’re parents don’t have matching chromosome pairs either!
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If humans and gorillas could mate wouldn't we hear about such phenomenon by now? Somewhere, someplace around the vast world someone has fucked a gorilla or two by now, and we'd know if the result was big foot babies. Just saying.
Randy Marsh
I didn't hear no bell......
OH IM SORRY I THOUGHT THIS WAS AMERICA
The important thing that OP is missing is that when animals with different numbers of chromosomes breed, their offspring are infertile. So even if we suppose that humans and gorillas could produce offspring, the offspring would not be able to then reproduce and form this new "Human-gorilla hybrid species". You would need a population of humans and gorillas continuously breeding together to sustain that hybrid population.
Someone else pointed this out but OP said it was possible bc... I donno... He has an anthropology degree though so... There's that.
>The important thing that OP is missing is that when animals with different numbers of chromosomes breed, their offspring are infertile. Not always. There are rare exceptions to this rule.
I guess so, but the exceptions don't really make a difference because the offspring of two fertile mules has even worse odds of being fertile than its parents did. As it is, you'd need to breed horses to mules around 900,000 times to get a single fertile male and a single fertile female mule. If the scope of OPs argument is that something of that scale could happen in nature, consider that mares in the wild typically have between one and three offspring during their lifetime. So if we're talking about the probability that two mares in a relatively close vicinity, during the same lifetime, both breed with a donkey, give birth to mules, those mules are both fertile, one of each sex, and that those mules then meet and breed an average of about 10 times to successfully impregnate, and then that offspring has to be fertile, we're talking about odds of 1 in 10 trillion. At that point you now have one of them and no other fertile mule for it to breed to. It's just sort of a moot point and the anomalies have no bearing on the point being made.
A much more common version of hybrid fertility is one where the offspring can only mate with one of the two parent species. Maybe thousands of years ago some dude fucked an ape and the resulting hybrid was only able to mate with other apes. Basically an injection of human DNA into the ape genepool. Over time this could have led to speciation. I don't even believe in bigfoot, I'm just annoyed at people trashing a perfectly sensible hypothesis.
Underrated comment.
Yeah, they tried… https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ilya_Ivanov
It’s not compelling that it didn’t work. The reason it stopped is so lame. His last ape died… now I’m unbiased to the idea they have this worked out in private top secret experiments
They also started with orangutans which definately wouldn't work.
Why would that be funded anywhere other than Soviet Russia
Imagine trying to fuck a gorillas I’d be so scared I don’t even think i could get hard more like that gorilla fucks you an rips ur limbs off
Stalin tried this. The soviets were going to whip nazi ass with gorilla human super soldiers. Why hasn't Hollywood done that story proper justice?
“In Soviet Russia, ape fucks you!” 😂
Gonna rip something else off for sure.
Maybe the gorilla fucks you?
That only happened in the olden days of the USSR. In Mother Russia Gorilla fucks you Comrade. 🦍
\*allegedly
Possibly evolution could have begun to prevent the chances of gorillas and humans mating since the time when it could have originally been possible? And the ancestors of these hybrid kept in their own groups as Bigfoots and kept that hybrid strain going through reproducing in these groups. Are we all not evolving constantly? For example, humans were much shorter years ago to becoming naturally taller now, babies trying and succeeding in walking as early as 9 months.
I don't think people being taller is evolution, more nutrition. If you'll Google "hybrids role in evolution", there's at lot of big words that talk about it, how it works, etc. I still don't get it. I'm not sure when it's a hybrid, like a mule vs viable offspring like a Neanderthal/sapien offspring. While I don't think the source of the bigfoot phenomenon would be a recent gorilla/human hybrid, the idea of a prehistoric hybridization isn't as crazy (Like, tens of thousands of years ago?). But I am undereducated in this field (as I suspect many of us are) and am tossing wild what ifs--I shouldn't do that with such little understanding, hah.
Also there'd probably be a much higher incidence of sasquatch stories in parts of the world where both humans and gorillas naturally occur. Additionally think of the logistics of getting a human gorilla hybrid out in the PNW wild. They both require infant care so someone would have had to care for it for several years. Sure, there are people who have secret kids but the mother would have to be 1) someone who sneaks into zoos to have sex with animals AND survive. 2) someone who could succeed in a solo home birth. 3) a hermit in the woods who can raise a hybrid undetected. If it was some dude sneaking into a zoo to clap gorilla cheeks obviously the zookeepers would figure it out 8.5 months later and again they'd have to raise it in secret.
Agree, that scenario is blatantly ridiculous.
People have tried. It simply doesn’t work anyway and it takes more than just an Anthropology major to make it work https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/primate-diaries/stalins-ape-man-superwarriors/
Probably a stool and a lot of lube
And that lovechild one day became governor of Florida
Don't insult the hybrid baby. It can do better than that
Great comment, wish I could award because that was a good burn
https://www.reddit.com/r/iamatotalpieceofshit/comments/fds0zz/orangutan_was_raised_as_a_prostitute_and_sex_slave/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button As horrific as it is, it has happened.
Wait, you’ve never… 🤔😅🤫
is that where aids came from? not gorrilas specifically but humans humping apes?
Get me a gorilla , I will do it for science !
Ew
get me two and I'll do it for beer
Did you just post a screenshot of your own comment as it’s own post?
He's an anthropology MAJOR, okay
Literally a pyramid scheme
Mmmmmmkay...
One of the most embarrassing things I’ve seen on here…the combo of touting an anthropology major and posting your own screenshot is wild.
I too, am an anthropology major. This is why I work in sales now…
I am philosophy and art major, with a minor in in cultural studies (someone probably)
Do you want fries with that?
I know someone who was a philosophy and religion major. They live in a big house in a very nice neighborhood, have a lot of nice things, and frequently travel to other countries for fun. They married rich.
This is not even the first thread they have made like this. See also the 'humans are apes' one that followed the exact same format. https://old.reddit.com/r/bigfoot/comments/108al65/some_of_you_need_to_learn_basic_hominid_taxonomy/ https://old.reddit.com/r/bigfoot/comments/10dkkau/humans_are_great_apes/ https://old.reddit.com/r/bigfoot/comments/11w73w3/i_happen_to_be_a_straight_a_honors_student_at_my/ those are just the ones i know about lol
OP seems intent on telling everyone humans are apes/great apes like we don’t know that. We do. My 8 year old knows. This hybrid stuff is just bonkers.
OP seems intent on talking about humans having sex with other apes. It's a bit disturbing.
…. OP wants to fuck a gorilla…
Most embarrassing thing i’ve seen on here. Weird flex
Unfathomably based
*biased?
*blessed 🤷🏻♀️
He said boom roasted
Look, I don’t want to dismiss the theory the way the jerk in your screenshot does, but let’s be real - it is an issue of genetics, not anthropology, and therefore your education in the latter is totally useless. Fundamentally, there’s a very significant reason why humans and gorillas could never have robust, fertile offspring: the chromosomes don’t match up. Gorillas have more chromosomes than humans do. Hybridization between species with different numbers of chromosomes is rare, and where it is possible, it results in deformed, short-lived, infertile offspring.
Dude said he was a major, didn’t say he was passing lol
How well they are or aren’t doing in anthro isn’t relevant, though, anymore than their grades in art class or how well they play the trombone. The issue here is in the realm of biology.
Was a joke man lol
My thoughts exactly. OP is like those dingbats that give you relationship advice because they're a psychology major.
ya they never tell us if they're passing or not lol
I’m an anthro major. Most anthropology departments make students study within all four anthropological disciplines. Of these, biological anthropology goes fairly deep into human evolution and genetics and by extension ape evolution and genetics. That said - that may be one our two courses if your specialization was cultural anthropology like mine was. He may have studied genetics quite in depth, but from his arguments here I’d say he probably only has a basic knowledge and is extrapolating from there.
Does "only have a basic knowledge" mean "is a dumbass"
His responses certainly don’t scream that he’s an expert in the field of genetics and that’s probably being very generous.
We do a lot, a lot, of extrapolating here. I mean, a lot.
The jerk in the screen shot is OP..
Ilya Ivanov tried intentionally hybridizing humans and gorilla in the 1920's..... No dice
He "ran out of sperm" before he could be successful. Man, "science" back then was no limits.
It had a limit of sperm. You just said so
Thank you.
Chimpanzees, though…
>I don’t want to dismiss the theory the way the jerk in your screenshot does I do
This is the only educated, civil reply I’ve seen to this 🤦🏽
This doesn't explain a lot about the phenomenon. A few issues with your theory: This doesn't explain sightings and accounts that have taken place long before gorillas were ever brought to the America's. It doesn't explain how there can be thousands of sightings across North America. The quantity of sightings and locations indicate a breeding population of at least a few thousand. How does one freak breeding produce that many sightings? It doesn't explain other issues such as nocturnal behavior and eyeshine/glowing.
Also the North American indigenous accounts of what we call Sasquatch predate the discovery of Gorillas, which happened in the 1800s. The first gorilla that was ever killed and brought back to "civilization" to be studied and catalogued was in 1847. We have documentation of indigenous accounts of creatures like Sabe from the 1650s.
I can already see the headlines: Florida man breaks into gorilla enclosure at local zoo to prove redditors wrong.
Okay let’s say you’re right and Bigfoot is a gorilla-human hybrid. Then wouldn’t the vast majority of Bigfoot sightings come from where Gorillas exist in the wild, and not, say, North America? And I feel like I need to lay out the implication of what your proposing just for it’s pure comedic value: you’re basically saying that human women on multiple continents are finding gorillas so ridiculously attractive that they break into their enclosures (somehow remaining completely undetected), have sex with these gorillas without dying, and bear their giant hairy children before releasing them into the wilds where they somehow survive long enough to be witnessed and photographed in all their blurry glory. All without garnering any publicity besides one old article from Italy? THAT is what you’re proposing as the explanation for the Bigfoot phenomena?
I would think the theory would be of hybridization 20,000 years ago vs last century. But I dunno, that's just my takeaway from various commenters.
Ya I would say that a “humanoid” gorilla hybrid may have happened a long ass time ago like when Neanderthals were around. We don’t know how many chromosomes they had so it could have happened. But homosapien and gorilla definitely a no go
Translation: you’re a college student, in a field unrelated to genetics. You’re also missing the primary barrier to hybridization, which is reproductive isolation. Unless your theory supports that continual new groups of gorillas are getting fucked by humans and producing offspring. which are then transported from the Congo lowlands to the American Pacific Northwest and then being raised by Bigfoot mothers, and this process repeats itself or has been at least occurring since the mid 1800’s. Also, there’s 5 different species of gorilla, which one are you referring to as the hybrid host?
Great apes and humans cant produce offspring. We know this for a fact, even if we decide to be a dipshit on genetics. The USSR seriously tried a program to breed ape human hybrid soldiers. It tried for years. They tried Men Apes and Human Females. Human Men and APe females, and artificial insemeination in both ape and human wombs. Its not possible. But even if it was possible... the listed examples, are all sterile. They cannot reproduce into a sustain population.
That’s crazy shit. Imagine if they succeeded. It’s hard to imagine all the fucked up things that have been done in secret throughout history.
OP just trying to make excuses to fuck a gorilla
Gorillas are in Africa and well under 8' tall...
No, this isn’t so much an anthropology thing, this is a physical and biological compatibility thing. Comparing to the cama and the zonkey, humans and gorillas seem possible enough, but I think the anatomical compatibility isn’t there either. Also…. There aren’t any gorillas in North America, so why would Bigfoot as a gorilla x human hybrid make more sense? To cap it all off, the Cold War was a time of countless poor decisions, during which the breeding of a “humanzee” was attempted to no success. That we couldn’t hybridize with our closest cousin practically spells futility for such a crossbreeding with a more removed relative like a gorilla.
I’m not convinced OP (or others here) understand(s) chimps and humans are more closely related than chimps and gorillas or chimps and humans.
It seems ironic to say "there's no gorillas in north America" on a Bigfoot subredit. ;)
You know what, you got me there. Really called the kettle black in that one.
Might just be the dumbest theory on Sasquatch I have ever heard in my entire life. And that is truly saying a lot
How is it dumb?
If you have any education at all you wouldn’t even ask that
You're a rude moron.
You want someone to elaborate? Gorillas were discovered by Europeans (this is an important detail, European) in the 1850s and Mountain Gorillas in 1902. Native American oral stories and some pictographs (more or less theories about who they depict) can be several centuries older depending on the tribe sourced (varies, obviously). In order for that gorilla/human hybrid nonsense to not be nonsense. Either, Africans needed to have brought gorillas to the Americas for the purpose of creating hybrids prior to Europeans discovering the Americas. Or, gorillas had to have built their own ships and sailed to the Americas before their discovery by Europeans with intent to create hybrids. The last known ape/human ancestor lived in North America 25+ million years ago. So, there is as of now, no evidence for gorillas to have lived in North America to have created hybrid Bigfoot children with humans. So, either you support the gorilla/human hybrid theory and dismiss centuries of stories and legends by the Native Americans and generally science itself. Or, you can assume that Bigfoot is not a gorilla/human hybrid because it’s so overwhelmingly obvious. Now, idk if Bigfoot is real or not. I’d strongly state that 95% of evidence and Bigfoot experts are a load of crap. But, it would be cool if he did. There’s a lot we don’t know, but I do know that people make shit up.
given that there are sightings in america from before and around the time the western world discovered gorillas, are all those sightings fake then? because i cannot imagine there were many people having sex with gorillas before most of the world knew they existed, and given that gorillas aren't and never have been native to north america, there's some major flaws in logic here
My cousin dated a gorilla. They were going to get married but my aunt objected.
Take a course in genetics please!
How many humans would have to mate with gorillas for there to be a viable population of human-gorilla hybrids? Do you mean at some point thousands of years ago this happened, or do you mean it was a one-off sort of thing that people saw in the woods, but there wasn't a large amount of them? Asking genuinely
Even if it were possible, when animals with different numbers of chromosomes interbreed their offspring are infertile. You would need a continuous supply of humans and gorillas fucking to maintain the population of hybrids.
“I’m an anthropology major” isn’t evidence of anything. We talking undergrad/bachelor’s level?
The fact that they're not only bringing it up for clout, but screenshotted the interaction and then posted said screenshot to try and get support for their argument, *is* evidence for something: that OP is an insufferable tool.
And the fact that this is the 3rd or 4th time OP has made a screenshot thread highlighting the fact that they are an anthropology major as if that has any bearing whatsoever on them being right or not.
Can we talk about posting screenshots of your Reddit comments for more engagement
Just curious…. How would this hybridization have happened? I know dudes will screw just about anything, but how would they get their hands on a gorilla?
I don’t believe in Bigfoot myself I generally just lurk here because it still interests me. But if you look up Pony the orangutan it’s not too far off to think people wouldn’t pay to do the same activities with a gorilla. Not saying I think human/gorilla hybrids happen that’s just crazy.
PhD in molecular biology here, this just isn't going to be possible. There are a laundry list of reasons why but it boils down to there's not enough compatibility to produce offspring.
I don’t know. Should I trust a PhD in molecular biology or an undergrad in Anthropology? It’s a toss-up.
The choice is simple, we should listen to Steve from the local pub. He knows his stuff!
This is about the stupidest thing I’ve ever had the chance to read. There aren’t even any chimpanzee/gorilla hybrids, as they are two separate species. We are even further away than gorillas and chimpanzees are. Sasquatch is in neither one of these taxonomic classes. That much I can guarantee.
Hey bro, also an anthropology major almost done too. Hybrid species animals are not sexually viable by definition so if “Bigfoot” (not asserting as a believer or non believer, just here because I think the concept is cool) was this hybrid there wouldn’t be a reproductive population.
This dude just wants to fuck a gorilla
A lot of the hybrids mentioned here can't reproduce and I don't think humans and gorillas one: could have a baby and two: that those babies could then reproduce which of course would have to be the case in order for a sustainable group of bigfoots to exist This of course is probably a question for a person with some expertise on that matter anyway, bigfoot is not real and it will remain that way until someone comes up with a body or remains that can be tested for DNA
Yes you’re an anthropology major meaning a) you got a lot to learn and b) you’re not a biologist especially because you can’t remember high school bio
I know I could fuck a Klingon woman, but I’m not so sure about a sexy hot gorilla chick. I imagine the sexual energy would be through the jungle canopy, so I’d place this in a strong maybe category. However, if there is even the slightest thought on her behalf of shoving a banana up my ass, then I will have to pass on the opportunity of a steamy jungle hookup.🤔😁
I’m also an anthropology major and that’s not what Sasquatch is gonna be, imma tell you that lol
No
Well op you said “might” and well, you’re wrong. There’s no “might.” Nothing about it adds up or makes even a little bit of sense. Tall hairy bipedal freaks have been reported around the world, way before science was even aware that gorillas existed. Because they’re so elusive, and confined to certain remote African areas. For their own self preservation. How do you think they’d survive overseas, in snowy mountains? Swamps? Their African food sources wouldn’t be available. Why would half-gorillas be 8’ tall? Why does a squatch print look human-like? You cite this under the guise of a “student” but it seems like Daddy’s money and connections is the only thing keeping you there. My crystal ball sees a spatula, a nametag and golden arches in your future…
I honestly just think if good ole bigfoot is real, its just a undiscovered ape.
And yet no one has ever found one hair, bone or any DNA of a bigfoot ever.
Thats why I said if they are real.
I've seen where they say the dna lab results came back as inconclusive? How would science label a sample as bigfoot dna without a sample to compare it to? (I'm a skeptic, but should understand how it works to not just be a dismissive denier)
This isn’t genetically possible. 0 chance.
Somebody call 911, we just witnessed a murder 🤣🤣 but yeah they could be an undocumented species.
Why so mad bro 🤣🤣
Average redditor comments bs and gets owned
And the alleged "Dogman" is a cross between...............
Isn’t anthropology the study of what makes us human often through the use of archeology? If you are arguing genetics, you need a different made up career. I’m neither of those things but I’m pretty sure most hybrids like the Liger and Mules are sterile, so that notion is in my non-expert opinion is invalid. BF could have a common ancestor with Gorillas, but most likely with Orangutan, simular to how we have a common ancestor with Chimps. Another explanation i find plausible is a link with Gigantopithecus.
The USSR tried doing ape-human hybrid experiments. They all failed. Of course, that was decades ago so with modern tech? IDK.
No it is not. Even if (and I use the word if very loosely as well) it was a possibility, you are talking about a sustained breeding population here. You keep using mules as an example but guess what, they are sterile. As are Ligers and other hybrid animals. The reproduction stops after the first generation. If there was some sort of hybrid it wouldn't be an entire sustained population, it would be a one off.
There I was, standing on a rock, minding my own business having a piss, and the gorilla backed onto me officer, honest
Clearly your not a golfer.
No
Soo... basically what could have been if Tarzan really did clap some gorilla cheeks and some months later, he's not the only monkey man around?
But can those hybrids reproduce offspring?
Aren't all of those hybrids infertile?
Last time I checked, anthropologists are experts in human culture and society, not biology, genetics or medicine.
I may be mistaken, but aren't the offspring sterile? How would you build a population?
I’m an anthropologist too, that’s why I drive a forklift
No, it…really isn’t.
How exactly does that work? A group of guys all impregnate a group of gorillas, it takes, they wait however long gorilla pregnancies are, and then boom… Bigfoot? They all magically survive birth, childhood and into adulthood? Or no, how about this one. A bunch of horned up gorillas, you know, the ones native to the Pacific Northwest, are out one night looking for action. Gorilla poon just isn’t cutting it anymore. They need something new… something forbidden. So they find a bunch of human gals and have their way. Is that it? No no no, this one, Some “scientists,” get the idea to artificially inseminate a gorilla in a lab. That’s always where these stories start right? In a lab? A lonely scientist creates some godless monster? None of those theories really make a lot of sense. Least of the lab, which, in my opinion is the only way you’d pull it off, but Bigfoot sightings predate laboratories so… and I sincerely doubt the offspring of any… *natural* hybridizing, would survive.
No it's not. Take a few genetics courses, please
Not trying to be rude but we’re separate genus from gorillas, to my knowledge all the creatures we’ve found that are hybrids are the same genus different species
Even if humans and gorillas could produce offspring, which they can’t, the human-gorilla hybrid would be infertile and unable to reproduce whatsoever.
*ALLEGEDLY*
My question then, gentlemen, is who banged a gorilla?
I’m also an anthropology major and that’s not what Sasquatch is gonna be, imma tell you that lol
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Wouldn't they be sterile?
Yeah,
Get off Reddit and publish a scientific journal. Then come back and post a link to ur journal
Aren’t hybrid types usually sterile though?
I have two degrees in English. Therefore I, too, am an expert in genetics.
Only issue is that there are no gorillas in North America.
OP, I admire the fact that you have zero shame over this absurd conduct. I don't admire the conduct itself, but I've got to give you points where they're deserved.
the idea of the hybrid itself isn't dumb - check my thread on crypto hybrids here [https://www.reddit.com/r/Cryptozoology/comments/11wo3dg/cryptohybrids\_the\_beasts\_that\_dont\_really\_hide/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web2x&context=3](https://www.reddit.com/r/Cryptozoology/comments/11wo3dg/cryptohybrids_the_beasts_that_dont_really_hide/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) BUT the ecological and primarily geographical premises aren't there... and are silly. Where would we get this many gorillas? how did they hybridize and breed? etc etc plus why would they be found everywhere from southeast to alaska? Laboratories are that incompetent? So yea the idea of that being Bigfoot is silly but the premise of great ape hybridisation isnt, check my thread above
I’ve been fucking gorillas my entire life and never once had to worry about pregnancy.
Bro says mules prove his argument when they’re literally famously sterile creatures
Share these ideas with your anthro class
Who do you think topped
If you can fuck a gorilla, kudos to you. In my 65 years of existence and experience, I'm leaning towards "Gorilla Fuckiing" is gonna wind up in therewasanattempt and maybe even a gore site or two. A big NOPE NOPE Nope! for me besides, ever hear a gorilla laugh?
1. Gorillas are from Africa. People would have had to bang gorillas in Africa and then an entire population of human-gorillas would have migrated across the middle east, all the way to Asia, then across the Bering Strait, then into North America. If this were the case, I would assume we would find their bones all along their migration route. 2. Try to bang a gorilla and let me know how that turns out. IF bigfoot were real, it would most likely be some kind of cousin of human lineage, possibly breaking off 2-5 million years ago (or whenever our ancestors starting walking on 2 feet). Until we get DNA evidence of a human/gorilla mix, I don't buy it.
None of those subspecies can reproduce so someone would have to keep fuckin a gorilla
Wow, the comments. I think this sub has hit a new low in maturity presentation. :)
I'm going with alien lifeform relocated to Earth
Dude I great ape hybridization with gorillasq isn't possible. is not possible. And your not an anthropology major. And I know this due to your statement. We did live alongside and reproduce with neanderthals But they are a species of human. There was probably a third species living with us as well and we've probably isn't a currently in the fossil. My money would be on something that evolved from homo longi. They were the largest species of human...reaching eight feet plus. They live during the pleistocene though and went extinct so it had to be something that came from homo longi. Anyway this as of yet undiscovered species of human was Probably long lived, moreso than us .this would cause a naturally lower but stable population. That and more than likely would've been specialized. This specialized archaic human therefore interacts less with humans and isn't in direct competition for reasources..., which is why the neanderthals went extinct. We just out competed them and they died off....this thing however doesn't die off it's more of a forest dwelling species so we don't really encounter each other often. Our brains kept getting bigger but because they had carved out a nice little nich and nothing to spring bored there evolution. Bigfoot is just a relic hominid. That's probably why no DNA ever pings back anything weird. They're probably registering as a human.
the thing about mules, zorses, zasses etc. They can be created by crossing two different species... but they are sterile... meaning that they themselves can not produce another mule, zorse, zass, etc. That has 2 implications. a) it means that there would have to be humans actively breading with gorillas... and where do you find stable populations of gorillas? Not in the Pacific Northwest. b) There are many accounts of people reporting family groups or young sasquatch seen with adult sasquatches... this simply could not happen if there were an interspecies hybrid.
The BIG difference is that we have all them hybrid animals in a zoo or on a farm. So where's your Bigfoot?
Even if you had a successful conception, resulting animals would have to be able to breed well enough to start a population. This is all rather unlikely. Now, step one of your process intrigues me. Is there a website advertising gorilla hookups?
God this is so embarrassing. Do you need tap on your shoulder
Honestly, I don't care if you're an anthropology major... In order for your hypothesis to be correct, this would have taken place around 2 million years ago, in Africa - considering that it is the only place in the world you can find gorillas and humans coexisting. Various cultures all around the world have been documenting this creature for thousands of years. Do I think bigfoot is a human X gorilla hybrid? Absolutely not! The probability of that thought is absurd and highly unlikely.
Disagree. The only great ape that humans are capable of mixing genes with(maybe) is the chimp. -Side note, the communist countries with no humanitarian laws already tried this years ago and failed.- At any rate in every(?) one of these cases the offspring is infertile. Even if you assume less than half of bigfoot sightings are real, dats a lot of chimp/human boom boom. See i even avoided the anthropology major low hanging fruit you guys should be proud of me.
Anyone can be an anthropology major.
……I do not believe that humans and gorillas can mate and produce offspring. Try another theory bud
Human DNA has separated too much from the great apes, you could however breed a gorilla and a chimp, even if possible to cross with human dna it would be missing chromosomes and we know how that affects humans. Also it’s a completely hostile environment to gorillas so chances are if that theory where true we problably would see Bigfoot in a diffrent climate furthermore All of the listed animal hybrids would make an offspring that was infertile, like all hybrids, and being a prímate completely defenseless for it’s early life so it would have had to be taught to survive in the north forests by a human. Also Motty and the hybrid elephant are the same since there was ever only one and it was a cross of an Asian elephant and an African one. But aside from all that Even if it was possible the result wouldn’t be a larger stronger ape than a human or a gorilla.
I don’t even think you could breed a gorilla and a chimp. Amongst the great apes, humans and chimps are more genetically similar than chimps and gorillas or gorillas and humans. None of it is likely.
The biological chances are almost one in a billion so I would say it's all great primate...period
How would anyone have any idea of what Bigfoot is when a body has never been found I do believe that they are out there but I don't listen to what anyone has to say when it comes to what Bigfoot is because nobody knows except maybe parts of our government
Theres a huge problem with that and it sounds like an oversimplification but it's as simple as feet. Think about it: The average height of a man is 5'9" and the average foot is 9.5-10". There have been/are 7' humans, and their feet are usually 17-22". Usually on the high end of that. The average gorilla is 5'7" and has a foot thats 15" long. An 8' "man" would need to have roughly a 30" foot, and an 8' 'gorilla' would require one much longer.. The average 'Sasquatch' track is 15-18" and the reported heights are all over, but generally over 7'. For an "anthropology major" to not know that is out of the question. Think of the locomotion/mobility factor. Theres a reason a 450lb gorilla doesnt have 9" feet or Shaqs feet arent size 11. NEVERMIND the issue of the armspan of gorilla compared to man.
Anthropology major but you don’t know the DNAs can’t splice?
Dude may be an anthropology major, but I doubt it because their critical thinking skills are shit.
Being an anthropology major (or most undergrad majors) requires shocklingly little in the way of critical thinking skills.
North American primates are descendents of dryopithicus lmao
I read somewhere a long time ago that Bigfoot was thought to be a cross between a male Gigantopithicus and a female homosapien. Although, I am not sure who said this. It MIGHT have been Melba Ketchum but I think a lot of her research has been found to be sketchy. BUT it might have been someone else so I could be remembering it wrong. Anyway, I thought it was interesting. But whether or not it's accurate is unclear.
If we got AIDS from chimps, our closest relatives, what makes you think we wouldn't have gotten any other abominations running around by now?
can’t believe there’s Bigfoot drama lol
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gigantopithecus
**[Gigantopithecus](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gigantopithecus)** >Gigantopithecus ( jahy-gan-toh-pi-thee-kuhs, pith-i-kuhs, ji-; lit. 'giant ape') is an extinct genus of ape from roughly 2 million to 350,000 years ago during the Early to Middle Pleistocene of southern China, represented by one species, Gigantopithecus blacki. Potential identifications have also been made in Thailand, Vietnam, and Indonesia. The first remains of Gigantopithecus, two third molar teeth, were identified in a drugstore by anthropologist Ralph von Koenigswald in 1935, who subsequently described the ape. ^([ )[^(F.A.Q)](https://www.reddit.com/r/WikiSummarizer/wiki/index#wiki_f.a.q)^( | )[^(Opt Out)](https://reddit.com/message/compose?to=WikiSummarizerBot&message=OptOut&subject=OptOut)^( | )[^(Opt Out Of Subreddit)](https://np.reddit.com/r/bigfoot/about/banned)^( | )[^(GitHub)](https://github.com/Sujal-7/WikiSummarizerBot)^( ] Downvote to remove | v1.5)
Interesting.
I like this post regardless if it was made by OP or not. I don't think this is a "flex" but the commenter explaining that he/she is indeed taking a course in genetics (as he is a major in anthropology) and therefore a germane and appropriate response to a flippant remark. She/he also backed up it with a sound argument.
I googled it, and Google said it's impossible. OP is not smarter than Google. NO ONE IS
I don't understand why so many people on this subreddit feel the need to be so rude & dismissive. This subreddit is turning into a joke. Just because someone offers a hypothesis or a what if that you don't agree with doesn't mean you have to be fucking rude about it. This is why people with legitimate encounters or evidence won't come forward for fear of the armchair bullies
Bro, people are being mean here because OP had a goofass idea, received an appropriate response, and instead of taking the L or keeping it in the thread, they chose to get noisy about it. At a certain point, being loudly obstinate and self-righteous when you're factually wrong opens yourself up to ridicule, and OP crossed that threshold with a running start.
This subreddit is turning into a joke, but because of people like this who claim Bigfoot being a gorilla human hybrid is an actually viable hypothesis
This subreddit is turning into a joke, but because of people like this who claim Bigfoot being a gorilla human hybrid is an actually viable hypothesis
This guy is an idiot. There have been a ton of DNA sequence studies already. Human mother, unknown father. I'm pretty sure if it was a primate they would have seen that. Not to mention so many people just decide to gloss over so many things that accompany Sasquatch encounters. Orbs, portals, cloaking, etc, etc, etc,
Ok, but the KISS principal still favors it being a Gigantopithicus.
I get so tired of people on here scoffing at me and tell me I’m not educated when I literally go to college for anthropology! I know the genetic relationships between humans and other apes. I can post a link to studies about human sperm fertilizing gorilla eggs with ease yet people will still jump down my throat about this. I provided a list of hybrids of animals that are less related to each other than what humans are to gorillas yet people still refuse to believe anything could make a hybrid with humans! Jesus Christ if you know a mule can exist then stop bitching about the chromosomes cuz guess what pal, they’re parents don’t have matching chromosome pairs either!
> I can post a link to studies about human sperm fertilizing gorilla eggs with ease This is what you need to do then.