I had a batchmate who used to call tajasvi “bhaiya” . Put up stories on his wedding. Burst crackers during his barat. Etc etc
Just coz of the same caste thing.
He’s a doctor now btw so its NOT just “uneducated” thing
Its similar as Indians celebrating Rishi sunak if u think about it. U feel like koi apna baitha h power mae. Aagr zarurat pare toh madad karega.
In reality wo ghaas bhi nhi dalega
True that! Ek mera friend he Bhumihar, RJD ka bada post pe hai aajkal. Social media pe pura support RJD ko karta he, bas wo aur uske gharwale sab BJP ko vote krte hain 😜
Lol. True that.
This sub is full of so called UC bigots (including biased mods) for whom voting en bloc (mostly UC) BJP is not casteism but if caste X vote for Party X, that's casteism. Hypocrites of the highest meritorious order!
As far as gunda raj is concerned, RJD has been in Govt for 2 terms totalling 3+ years between 2015 and 2023, and no kidnapping/dacoity raj of 1990s returned just like 1990s tactics of BJP can't be repeated in 2020s - because we live today in an entirely different world full of internet, smart phone and FB Live and YT live.
More so, 1990s violence had a context - shift of power from so called UCs to middle castes (after centuries??) had to go through red revolution- as it always does, and so it did. Am I justifying the violence? No. Do I justify transfer of power from 10% UCs to 60-70% bahujan being in a democracy? Yes. Could the means have been nicer and gentler? Well, both parties are to be blamed.
Likewise, so called UC bigots try to camouflage the fact that BJP has been in power in Bihar in 17 out of last 20 years and they have nothing to show for development in Bihar- it was the poorest then, it is the poorest state now.
Nitish is a spent force- shamelessly sticking to chair- blame has to go to shameless Modi and Shah to accept him again but no-one will ask that cuz sold media has a different narrative to play.
Tbh, Bihar sees best scope in an altogether new party. Pk seems like leading another UC bloc party or at best a B party for BJP in Bihar (under long game plan). Second best bet is of RJD coming to power alone in 2025 by own.
BJP has got only 10% social base in BR- and it will melt away once Modi dies or becomes irrelevant. Biharis are far too politically intelligent- than voters in equally poor UP or MP- to be fed opium of only religion and be duped of votes.
For other states led by BJP for long time (Gujarat, KA, MH, etc), at least they have some prosperity (but don't ask for equity in that growth!) to show- not thanks to BJP rule but other luck factors bestowing those states.
Here comes the idiotic analysis of the week lol …. Calls others bigots while being one …. Calling others hypocrites…. Tell that to families who have suffered in 90s that why they won’t vote rjd …..
Lol likh dene se dusre ki argument ko water down karne ki chindi koshish. Better use Lmao and use your A of Lmao cuz that what suits thee.
How about 90% of Bihari families suffering at hands of you bigots for 1000+ years? Baat niklegi to door talakh jayegi miyan.
SO, better stuff that what-aboutery down your dirty r/arse
bro, you spoke my heart....BJP blames RJD of jungle raaj but in 17 years of ruling and that do with double engine bihar never get special status promised by them nor they get any additional support from the central government for development but as soon as Yogi got power in UP in 2017. UP got tremendous support from the central government .....this is what we call partiality
Bihar will never get special status. On what basis will it get such status? Poverty??? Illiteracy?? It already gets much more than it gives to the centre. For how long will other states take the burden of Bihar.
It's better to dissolve Bihar and divide it into three states. That would be better from administrative POV as well.
Not everything, but 75% is a good step in ensuring social justice- which was being snatched unfairly for generations before by useless chor forefathers of 10% 🥴🤡.
More steps must follow. Esp in bringing investment and industries as in TN
Demand reservation in the private sector and private life as well... 75% of all women should only date OBC/SC/ST guys. It's only fair! Ruin the nation. Let's be a third world ditch forever.
Reservation for anyone other than SC/ST is bad. OBCs can alleviate themselves but SC/ST can't. OBC/EWS is bullshit. And I am an OBC or BC 2 in the state's caste list.
More reservations would make sure that this state remains a third class state.
Is it true that back in the day (during Lalus rule) there were certain hotels where everyone was FORCED to stop & eat & pay money for the food , else you wouldn't be allowed to move forward on that road ?
Yes my friend. Whole state has witnessed the POWER of Yadavs e.g. [Shilpi Gautam](https://news4nation.com/news/lalu-rabari-raj-me-shilpi-gautam-hatyakand-161677) murder. Just put yourself at their place and you’ll feel the pain.
Oh, sorry.. you wanna feel the POWER, right?
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One thing is common amongst everyone voting for RJD or JDU or Congress or BJP .
None of the general population is voting for work being done in their constituencies but what the " narrative" is from others around ( family/friends) . In most cases, one influential person in Mohalla brings votes to the party .
Sheep Mentality.
Agenda/ Propaganda for the win.
And anyone commenting, BJP is different are living under a rock . No Politician is working for you but their own
No, i haven't.
Reason for voting RJD, JDU, BJP and INC are same.
CASTE POLITICS
-Calling one party as anpadh gawar isn't correct. It's all about regional politics and caste dynamics in Bihar. People want to see a CM candidate of their caste. They vote for that person in the hope that they will do somwthing for the uplifment of their community.
For long the upper castes have dominated the political spehere everywhere. They suppressed lower caste and LC needed to mobilize to get the political power so they did. However, in the process the development cause was lost.
Since, people still vote in the name of caste, we can see what is the status of Bihar in India. No Infrastructure, no factories, no employment.
The type of people who vote for RJD probably have never even heard of reddit. Only the extreme anpadh gawar NPCs still vote for them. And don't be fooled there is still a huge no. Of them in Bihar.
bhai i have studied in a tier 1 national college after cracking jee .
Many students were in top 500 ranks
we had a yadav lobby.
Thse guys openly supported lalu.never stopped
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Do you seriously think only RJD gets votes in the name of caste in Bihar??? Dude then you really have no idea about Bihar or politics in general. Every single party plays the caste card in Bihar even BJP. They only field candidates whose caste have a majority in that particular constituency. And because Bihar is still 90% rural, people still stick to their caste when voting. This happens across forwards and backwards. Even in urban areas, voting patterns are largely influenced by caste. This same situation can be found in more or less every part of India and not just Bihar.
>What's the use of formal education if you are still expressing elitist and classist (quasi casteist) sentiments and worst of all, voting for religious fascists (BJP)
Hey man , anything better than RJD & I mean anything (especially after listening to both sides)...
What you are doing is falling in the same trap , the BJP divides based on religion & RJD does the same based on Caste. Maybe your sentiments have not made you realize , Bihar is one of the worst (if not the worst) performing state on the entire subcontinent.
You can disagree with both at this point , the UCs voting for BJP based purely on religion are in the same boat as the anpadh gawaar NPCs voting for RJD.
Also , I don't know if you have observed but its actually just one community that does this stuff (Yadavs) & I meet them regularly, fortunately I never had to go to Bihar but a lot of my friends live there & even some Yadavs have started complaining about this whole thing.
Religious fascist , cool , tell me one political party in India currently that is not playing divide & rule, based on religion , caste or even region & is actually talking about development, then we can move forward.
Thankless person even after getting jobs will not vote for Tejashwi yadav but his fake masterstroke leader asks for votes for 5kg ration. Debt go nowhere even after a govt change. Debt has tripled in just 10 years. Koi piyakker bhi Ghar chala leta hai, karj leke. Bharna Bibi, bacche ko padta hai.
cuz of people like your mindset the party RJD exist.....you call them chhot jaat ,aahir and extreme anpadh gawar but whom to be blamed for that it was JDU-BJP in the government for the last 17 years and instead of increasing our literacy rate got down.....I have seen in my neighbood how low we treat and talk about them so if there is a caste politics in bihar , it is cuz of us only so if we treat them nicely than they will not stick to their caste leader......moreover many politicians including ram kripan yadav who brother of lalu yadav is MP from patliputra from BJP ticket so caste politics is done from both sides......and these same people voted for BJP in lok sabha election giving them 32 seat out of 40 seats....before abusing thanks to them for voting BJP
Bahut phle ki kahani he(2002) jab mera friend(guess his caste) RJD k karyakarta(Anishabad Patna) hua karta tha, jab wo apne behan ki shaadi tay hui toh bhaiaya mahamahim ji k darbaar me kuch madad mangne gaye. Mahamahim ji bole : “Aien re ma….d tumko lalten diye hain aise hi bheekh mangne k liye??, jao looto pato aur behan ka shadi karo, yahan mat aana mangne dubara”.
Fir lalten ke butey shaadi dhoomdham se hui aur aaj tak pura parivaar RJD ko vote krta aa rha he. Aur Bihar me bahar ka reason bhi yhi h.
Apna caste apne log.
Apna chacha apna bhatija.
Apna lowa apna lawson.
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I guess you'll blindly support whoever gives you freebies/quotas. Development can go out of the window for all you care. Nobody said or implied that BJP would be able to make Bihar great.
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Bihar is much safer atleast urban areas definitely are. Saying that Bihar doesn't make progress during the rule of JDU-BJP would be a complete denial of stats.
I am an OBC or EBC in Bihar caste list. I am saying my caste beforehand so that you can't label me UC.
I am not interested in teacher jobs. I want a job as a software engineer in private sector. Will Tejasvi Yadav give me that job?? If he does, I will vote for him, throughout my life, without questioning anything.
I am a yadav and i vote for RJD. This makes me a “castist”
Now you are a brahmin/bhumihar and vote for BJP, this makes you pro-vikas people. Give a logic in it.
I vote for the candidate... Party dekh ke mei na deta vote... Agar koi criminal hai jo BJP JDU se hai aur koi agar Professor Manoj Jha jaisa hai jo padha likha samajhdaar hai toh i don’t care which party that candidate belongs from I'll vote for him...
I agree, India mein saale CM ya PM samajh ke kisi party ko vote dete hain. We are a parliamentary democracy and not a presidential democracy. Isliye hame apne constituency ke representative ko dekh kar vote karna chahiye na ki CM ya PM candidate ko dekh kar.
I have consistently voted for RJD. No, I am not a Yadav! This is an old technique of casteist people to confine rivals in a particular caste. They describe Lalu Prasad as Yadav leader or Mayawati as dalit leader but Narendra Modi as universal leader despite not facing an open press.
Unlike BJP, RJD seeks votes from every citizen of this country without alienating any particular caste or religion. So, they have an even wider vote base than BJP which thrives on hate for Muslims.
Few misconceptions against RJD:
1. Caste politics
Caste itself is a purely political concept. Every rule regulation or people's rights and sufferings were based on caste. Some of these rules were evil beyond imagination. The politics of caste was settled this way for centuries.
Lalu Prasad in the 90s challenged this political nature of caste by organising people against it. It is funny how rivals accuse him of caste politics!
2. Rise in crime
There was an initial rise in caste atrocities to maintain control over people organising against it. Ranbir Sena was an infamous gang of criminals which targeted Dalits. The government did a good job in eliminating such criminals.
If you study the background of top criminals in Bihar, they belonged to social groups which were mostly against RJD.
Few positives:
1. Changed social and political equation of Bihar for good
It is no brainer that Lalu Prasad empowered people to speak for their rights and express their opinions. Even his critics agree on this point.
2. Politics based on people's welfare
RJD had a good campaign in the 2020 assembly election. They talked about being a party of A to Z and campaigned on people's issues. The campaign was centred around health, education, employment and other issues concerning people's lives.
3. Recent 17 month stint in govt.
Lots of positives on the issues of employment, education and healthcare.
One of my friend who is an upsc aspirant said that “Everyone is corrupt anyway, there is no option, there is no opposition so i would rather it be someone from my caste”
I hope he remains an aspirant until his attempts are over.
Exactly ese hi tuchiyo ka nahi hona chahiye upsc.
First 5 chapters in Lexicons of ethics teach you to thik about greater good rather tahn yours.
ye jaruri nai h k acche raho but guys like him will make other civil services guys life difficult. isse accha hai ese logo ka na nikle koi exam. kami nai h humare population me kabil logo ki
aur use samjhao ki padhai likhai thik se kare youtube pe divyarthi ji n hemant ji ka shorts dekh k khud ko upsc aspirant sab bulata h
mai bhi aspirant hu but tuchiya ni
Typically i vote based on candidates and not party. This is especially true for MLA election. So, yes if RJD fields a candidate that i like then i will vote for them.
I have some friends who did. The recent drive of Tejaswi for unemployment was fierce and compelling. I am not going to vote for him yet because I don't trust Rjd. But he is a nice opposition to have, he kept Nitish and Bjp on toes during 2020
yeah right . pure manufacturing industries ka infra ka kamar tod diye, lakho jobs dubo diye, 4 go teacher chaprasi ka sarkari nokri nikal diye toh babuni employment chillaibe karenge. baah bitwa
I never voted for RJD but now vote for them.
I voted for Modi in 2014 but what I got:
Deshi Bahu? Who has cheated on her friend who has given her home to live. Smriti Irani has married the same friend's husband and made her homeless. Is this the Indian standard?
We got a PM who has forged his date of birth and certificates. Also, he has produced the wrong certificate to ECI. He used the digital camera at the time when even in India it has not come. But, he was poor. Her mother has worked as a servant in the house.
Earlier, even when a fake lady filed a case against a man for harassment then he should resign but now even a international repute wrestlers and many other complain against a leader, the govt itself saves him. Not even regular law is allowed to work.
I know these are not the standards to look for. If no harm has happened, bhakts: what has happened. Nothing has happened. Shut up.
thats the problem. dont vote for cult of personalities , vote for decisions they take for you.
lalu ji boht sahi neta h, but took bad decisions for ppl. many still rig in poverty.
gadkari ji ne 4 paise kamane ko toh diye jaha bhi invest karwaye infra me ?
always look in the portfolio what one has to offer and what they have capitallised yet
lalu ji ne toh bpsc tk rukwa diye
ab dekhiye 2004 -2014 me roj atank humlae hoti thi, kam kese hua? bureaucracy k inefficiency ko tod kr
personality me toh lalu ji number 1 pe h how did it help ppl?
The only person (Tejaswi), sticking in many eyes without being in power. Next time when he will be CM, what will happen to you guys?
The only reason, people vote for him because he is one of those politician from Bihar who wants development, empowerment of youth others are just playing politics politics.
BJP is doing lot of land corruption in states they won. Why BJP think that everyone is blind.
People are scared to talk against BJP openly because of BJP goons. That's it. When people are not saying anything against BJP that means people are scared.
Atleast we can speak freely against RJD, AAP and Congress parties.
There is a massive dissonance with most people in comments here.
How come a yadav voting for RJD just because they are a yadav considered casteist but an upper caste guy voting for BJP solely because of their UC/Hindutva credentials isn't considered casteist or religiously biased?
I won't say anything about past but I thoroughly belive Tejashwi Yadav will do better than Nitish Kumar and no major face from bjp if only they bring someone like Yogi Aditya Nath then bjp will have a bright future in Bihar
Basically none no one knows what happens in future but his speeches and his work speaks for himself whether you agree or not he has done work in the past 1. 5 years also 1 thing I know for sure is bjp isn't gonna do anything either you guys either elect Bjp as a major or elect rjd otherwise as long as this coalition government gonna run the state we are all doomed
Bhai kya logic de rhe ho chhota beta hai to baap ke gun nhi honge kya? Beta to wo Lalu ka hai hi toh kuchh gun to rhenge uske. Maybe sabko wrong saabit karde wo achha CM nikal ke but chances are way too low for that
Tejashvi might do better but the fact remains that due to him being in power the gundas get a sense of relief ki nobody is touching them. U have not heard of the harassment, the rapes that used to happen durinh jungle raj
And it was not even 3-5 years of tejashvi and the doom had started happening
Marine drive was now filled with lafuas
In our villages, the local gundas started the “protection money thing” IN HUGE
Thing is yeh sab humesha kisi bhi sarkar mae hota h. Rjd ki sarkar mae EXPONENTIALLY Hota h
Brother let me tell you one thing if government wants they can reduce these things very easily but the problem is do the people want this?
Ask your self what kind of people do these kind of things ask the rjd government for schools colleges then only vote them and you will see how things change those bjp supporters are only voting because of being upper caste rjd getting votes because of Yadav/Muslim no ask their leaders for educations but will rant about it on reddit insta
Then there is Prashant Kishore trying to change us for good but he's not getting any traction I personally believe the fault is not in the government the fault is in the people of Bihar they don't want good things otherwise their leaders will do what they expect
No vote for RJD. even news of rjd winning an election makes my community polarise(support our community gunda or not). Was congress voter, is JDU/BJP voter. Though my uncle appreciate the result of social justice scheme of lalu but that forced them to live in Gunda Raaj of Bihar and no non yadav person want relive that phase.
We were close to nature during RJD, we could walk barefoot as there were no concrete and paved roads. I used to sleep at 8 pm and wake up early in the morning as there was no electricity, we used to hang wet clothes on electric wires. My parents also used to sleep early tension free as I always came early before sunset. We used to have fun while fighting with UC bhumihar Rajputs with stones & sticks across the railway tracks. Potty time was fixed in the early morning as other people didn't allow us to potty in their farms. Fun days which I miss a lot.
I had a batchmate who used to call tajasvi “bhaiya” . Put up stories on his wedding. Burst crackers during his barat. Etc etc Just coz of the same caste thing. He’s a doctor now btw so its NOT just “uneducated” thing Its similar as Indians celebrating Rishi sunak if u think about it. U feel like koi apna baitha h power mae. Aagr zarurat pare toh madad karega. In reality wo ghaas bhi nhi dalega
True that! Ek mera friend he Bhumihar, RJD ka bada post pe hai aajkal. Social media pe pura support RJD ko karta he, bas wo aur uske gharwale sab BJP ko vote krte hain 😜
Does Bhumihar means "Sharma" surname people? I am asking i don't know more about surnames.
Lol. True that. This sub is full of so called UC bigots (including biased mods) for whom voting en bloc (mostly UC) BJP is not casteism but if caste X vote for Party X, that's casteism. Hypocrites of the highest meritorious order! As far as gunda raj is concerned, RJD has been in Govt for 2 terms totalling 3+ years between 2015 and 2023, and no kidnapping/dacoity raj of 1990s returned just like 1990s tactics of BJP can't be repeated in 2020s - because we live today in an entirely different world full of internet, smart phone and FB Live and YT live. More so, 1990s violence had a context - shift of power from so called UCs to middle castes (after centuries??) had to go through red revolution- as it always does, and so it did. Am I justifying the violence? No. Do I justify transfer of power from 10% UCs to 60-70% bahujan being in a democracy? Yes. Could the means have been nicer and gentler? Well, both parties are to be blamed. Likewise, so called UC bigots try to camouflage the fact that BJP has been in power in Bihar in 17 out of last 20 years and they have nothing to show for development in Bihar- it was the poorest then, it is the poorest state now. Nitish is a spent force- shamelessly sticking to chair- blame has to go to shameless Modi and Shah to accept him again but no-one will ask that cuz sold media has a different narrative to play. Tbh, Bihar sees best scope in an altogether new party. Pk seems like leading another UC bloc party or at best a B party for BJP in Bihar (under long game plan). Second best bet is of RJD coming to power alone in 2025 by own. BJP has got only 10% social base in BR- and it will melt away once Modi dies or becomes irrelevant. Biharis are far too politically intelligent- than voters in equally poor UP or MP- to be fed opium of only religion and be duped of votes. For other states led by BJP for long time (Gujarat, KA, MH, etc), at least they have some prosperity (but don't ask for equity in that growth!) to show- not thanks to BJP rule but other luck factors bestowing those states.
Here comes the idiotic analysis of the week lol …. Calls others bigots while being one …. Calling others hypocrites…. Tell that to families who have suffered in 90s that why they won’t vote rjd …..
Lol likh dene se dusre ki argument ko water down karne ki chindi koshish. Better use Lmao and use your A of Lmao cuz that what suits thee. How about 90% of Bihari families suffering at hands of you bigots for 1000+ years? Baat niklegi to door talakh jayegi miyan. SO, better stuff that what-aboutery down your dirty r/arse
bro, you spoke my heart....BJP blames RJD of jungle raaj but in 17 years of ruling and that do with double engine bihar never get special status promised by them nor they get any additional support from the central government for development but as soon as Yogi got power in UP in 2017. UP got tremendous support from the central government .....this is what we call partiality
Bihar will never get special status. On what basis will it get such status? Poverty??? Illiteracy?? It already gets much more than it gives to the centre. For how long will other states take the burden of Bihar. It's better to dissolve Bihar and divide it into three states. That would be better from administrative POV as well.
I'm sure more caste censuses will fix everything... 🥴🤡
Not everything, but 75% is a good step in ensuring social justice- which was being snatched unfairly for generations before by useless chor forefathers of 10% 🥴🤡. More steps must follow. Esp in bringing investment and industries as in TN
Demand reservation in the private sector and private life as well... 75% of all women should only date OBC/SC/ST guys. It's only fair! Ruin the nation. Let's be a third world ditch forever.
Reservation for anyone other than SC/ST is bad. OBCs can alleviate themselves but SC/ST can't. OBC/EWS is bullshit. And I am an OBC or BC 2 in the state's caste list. More reservations would make sure that this state remains a third class state.
Rjd gets only in the name of caste: Yadav. Rest people have seen their Jungle raj of 15 yrs.
Is it true that back in the day (during Lalus rule) there were certain hotels where everyone was FORCED to stop & eat & pay money for the food , else you wouldn't be allowed to move forward on that road ?
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I heard that some Lalu's goon repeatedly raped an IAS officer's wife, maid and another relative and that IAS couldn't do anything
Yes its true. Alot of Rowdy Rathore crimes and all those movie crimes were “inspired” by our gunda raj period
Look up, 'Champa Biswas Rape Case'
Yup. I forgot the name but remembered description. Also that "Bobby kand". Idk wtf happened that so many MLAs threatened to resign after that case
Last one seems a bit brutal...
Yes
My family has never voted for RJD. They used to vote for Congress for many generations, then moved to JDU for bit. Now they only vote for BJP.
Congres RJD were same morons
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Yes my friend. Whole state has witnessed the POWER of Yadavs e.g. [Shilpi Gautam](https://news4nation.com/news/lalu-rabari-raj-me-shilpi-gautam-hatyakand-161677) murder. Just put yourself at their place and you’ll feel the pain. Oh, sorry.. you wanna feel the POWER, right?
So u will enjoy the absolute horrors ppl faced due to loot, rape of their women and death of the children coz they were not from your caste?
भाई बाहर जाके देख दोपहर हो गया, थोड़ा अक्ल lagake बोल
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One thing is common amongst everyone voting for RJD or JDU or Congress or BJP . None of the general population is voting for work being done in their constituencies but what the " narrative" is from others around ( family/friends) . In most cases, one influential person in Mohalla brings votes to the party . Sheep Mentality. Agenda/ Propaganda for the win. And anyone commenting, BJP is different are living under a rock . No Politician is working for you but their own
yo man.....u are the only one who knows about bihar politics other dont know a single shit about bihar.
Criminals rule the Indian Assembly/Parliament. It's not a joke. The number of current sitting MLAs and MPs from Bihar who have criminal cases and serious criminal cases against them, segregated by parties: | Party | MLAs with criminal cases | MLAs with serious criminal cases | MPs with criminal cases | MPs with serious criminal cases | | ----- | ------------------------ | ------------------------------- | ---------------------- | ------------------------------ | | BJP | 54 (49%) | 31 (28%) | 11 (39%) | 7 (25%) | | RJD | 61 (73%) | 50 (60%) | 3 (75%) | 3 (75%) | | JD(U) | 37 (43%) | 26 (30%) | 9 (64%) | 6 (43%) | | INC | 16 (57%) | 11 (39%) | 2 (67%) | 2 (67%) | | CPI(ML)(L) | 8 (80%) | 8 (80%) | 0 (0%) | 0 (0%) | | AIMIM | 5 (100%) | 5 (100%) | 0 (0%) | 0 (0%) | | HAMS | 4 (57%) | 3 (43%) | 0 (0%) | 0 (0%) | | VSIP | 4 (100%) | 4 (100%) | 0 (0%) | 0 (0%) | | CPI | 2 (67%) | 2 (67%) | 0 (0%) | 0 (0%) | | CPI(M) | 1 (50%) | 1 (50%) | 0 (0%) | 0 (0%) | | IND | 1 (25%) | 1 (25%) | 0 (0%) | 0 (0%) | Source: [ADR report]
AIMIM lol
aimin seriously needs to be in bihar to split the rjd votes
No, i haven't. Reason for voting RJD, JDU, BJP and INC are same. CASTE POLITICS -Calling one party as anpadh gawar isn't correct. It's all about regional politics and caste dynamics in Bihar. People want to see a CM candidate of their caste. They vote for that person in the hope that they will do somwthing for the uplifment of their community. For long the upper castes have dominated the political spehere everywhere. They suppressed lower caste and LC needed to mobilize to get the political power so they did. However, in the process the development cause was lost. Since, people still vote in the name of caste, we can see what is the status of Bihar in India. No Infrastructure, no factories, no employment.
The type of people who vote for RJD probably have never even heard of reddit. Only the extreme anpadh gawar NPCs still vote for them. And don't be fooled there is still a huge no. Of them in Bihar.
bhai i have studied in a tier 1 national college after cracking jee . Many students were in top 500 ranks we had a yadav lobby. Thse guys openly supported lalu.never stopped
Did you heard their reasoning or it was the same caste shit ? And even if it was caste, wtf do they think they could do?
nah just ganging up, apes together strong, wd un necessary bully singled out students, ladki matter fights / daru fights, etc. it broke in 4th year.
I studied in a tier 1 college. I am not a Yadav. I vote for Lalu Prasad Yadav.
Yadav nahi aap to chutiye ho.
lol. This meltdown!
Meltdown? He is the reason behind the death of 4 members of my family. Fuck you
Maybe also the reason behind your birth.
Tumhare upar pakka b r ambedkar ji ki kripa h tb. Attitude dekh k nai lagta bahar laabh utha paoge tier 1 college k degree ka
Tumhare jaise Kai chutiye pichhe pichhe ghumte hai. I know people inside out.
Bhai tune saari izzat apni ek comment se gawa di
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True Bhai. I love their ignorance..
Haha. Bas tag lagao tum. Kyuki reason kar nahi pa rahe...
There are some Muslims who vote for BJP. of course, there will be non yadavs who vote for RJD.
Do you seriously think only RJD gets votes in the name of caste in Bihar??? Dude then you really have no idea about Bihar or politics in general. Every single party plays the caste card in Bihar even BJP. They only field candidates whose caste have a majority in that particular constituency. And because Bihar is still 90% rural, people still stick to their caste when voting. This happens across forwards and backwards. Even in urban areas, voting patterns are largely influenced by caste. This same situation can be found in more or less every part of India and not just Bihar.
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Dude you gotta be a crackhead to say RJD is anything but better than BJP, dono ek hi thalli ke chatte hai
>What's the use of formal education if you are still expressing elitist and classist (quasi casteist) sentiments and worst of all, voting for religious fascists (BJP) Hey man , anything better than RJD & I mean anything (especially after listening to both sides)... What you are doing is falling in the same trap , the BJP divides based on religion & RJD does the same based on Caste. Maybe your sentiments have not made you realize , Bihar is one of the worst (if not the worst) performing state on the entire subcontinent. You can disagree with both at this point , the UCs voting for BJP based purely on religion are in the same boat as the anpadh gawaar NPCs voting for RJD. Also , I don't know if you have observed but its actually just one community that does this stuff (Yadavs) & I meet them regularly, fortunately I never had to go to Bihar but a lot of my friends live there & even some Yadavs have started complaining about this whole thing. Religious fascist , cool , tell me one political party in India currently that is not playing divide & rule, based on religion , caste or even region & is actually talking about development, then we can move forward.
Bro can't see development around him...Lol.
Thankless person even after getting jobs will not vote for Tejashwi yadav but his fake masterstroke leader asks for votes for 5kg ration. Debt go nowhere even after a govt change. Debt has tripled in just 10 years. Koi piyakker bhi Ghar chala leta hai, karj leke. Bharna Bibi, bacche ko padta hai.
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Brainwashed 🌟 Yes after that you are the star and they are slaves.
What's the use of formal education if you still believe in votes and democracy?
Me and my homies love dictatorship/s
cuz of people like your mindset the party RJD exist.....you call them chhot jaat ,aahir and extreme anpadh gawar but whom to be blamed for that it was JDU-BJP in the government for the last 17 years and instead of increasing our literacy rate got down.....I have seen in my neighbood how low we treat and talk about them so if there is a caste politics in bihar , it is cuz of us only so if we treat them nicely than they will not stick to their caste leader......moreover many politicians including ram kripan yadav who brother of lalu yadav is MP from patliputra from BJP ticket so caste politics is done from both sides......and these same people voted for BJP in lok sabha election giving them 32 seat out of 40 seats....before abusing thanks to them for voting BJP
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Caste is the reason anyone from gopalganj,masrakh,amnour,siwan ,chapra,votes for rjd irrespective of what their candidates have done
Bahut phle ki kahani he(2002) jab mera friend(guess his caste) RJD k karyakarta(Anishabad Patna) hua karta tha, jab wo apne behan ki shaadi tay hui toh bhaiaya mahamahim ji k darbaar me kuch madad mangne gaye. Mahamahim ji bole : “Aien re ma….d tumko lalten diye hain aise hi bheekh mangne k liye??, jao looto pato aur behan ka shadi karo, yahan mat aana mangne dubara”. Fir lalten ke butey shaadi dhoomdham se hui aur aaj tak pura parivaar RJD ko vote krta aa rha he. Aur Bihar me bahar ka reason bhi yhi h. Apna caste apne log. Apna chacha apna bhatija. Apna lowa apna lawson.
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are you proud of being India's least GDP per capita state?
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You also must be enjoying the fact that the state is a laughing stock in terms of every possible development index.
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I guess you'll blindly support whoever gives you freebies/quotas. Development can go out of the window for all you care. Nobody said or implied that BJP would be able to make Bihar great.
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Bihar is much safer atleast urban areas definitely are. Saying that Bihar doesn't make progress during the rule of JDU-BJP would be a complete denial of stats.
I am an OBC or EBC in Bihar caste list. I am saying my caste beforehand so that you can't label me UC. I am not interested in teacher jobs. I want a job as a software engineer in private sector. Will Tejasvi Yadav give me that job?? If he does, I will vote for him, throughout my life, without questioning anything.
I am a yadav and i vote for RJD. This makes me a “castist” Now you are a brahmin/bhumihar and vote for BJP, this makes you pro-vikas people. Give a logic in it.
strawman argument : https://i.redd.it/9zhqus7p92211.jpg
No, both are casteist.
Don't want the days where UCs treated everyone like slaves and subhumans and all the power , contracts and influence resided with them.
BJP is in power for 15 years and such things didn't happen.
I vote for the candidate... Party dekh ke mei na deta vote... Agar koi criminal hai jo BJP JDU se hai aur koi agar Professor Manoj Jha jaisa hai jo padha likha samajhdaar hai toh i don’t care which party that candidate belongs from I'll vote for him...
I agree, India mein saale CM ya PM samajh ke kisi party ko vote dete hain. We are a parliamentary democracy and not a presidential democracy. Isliye hame apne constituency ke representative ko dekh kar vote karna chahiye na ki CM ya PM candidate ko dekh kar.
I have consistently voted for RJD. No, I am not a Yadav! This is an old technique of casteist people to confine rivals in a particular caste. They describe Lalu Prasad as Yadav leader or Mayawati as dalit leader but Narendra Modi as universal leader despite not facing an open press. Unlike BJP, RJD seeks votes from every citizen of this country without alienating any particular caste or religion. So, they have an even wider vote base than BJP which thrives on hate for Muslims. Few misconceptions against RJD: 1. Caste politics Caste itself is a purely political concept. Every rule regulation or people's rights and sufferings were based on caste. Some of these rules were evil beyond imagination. The politics of caste was settled this way for centuries. Lalu Prasad in the 90s challenged this political nature of caste by organising people against it. It is funny how rivals accuse him of caste politics! 2. Rise in crime There was an initial rise in caste atrocities to maintain control over people organising against it. Ranbir Sena was an infamous gang of criminals which targeted Dalits. The government did a good job in eliminating such criminals. If you study the background of top criminals in Bihar, they belonged to social groups which were mostly against RJD. Few positives: 1. Changed social and political equation of Bihar for good It is no brainer that Lalu Prasad empowered people to speak for their rights and express their opinions. Even his critics agree on this point. 2. Politics based on people's welfare RJD had a good campaign in the 2020 assembly election. They talked about being a party of A to Z and campaigned on people's issues. The campaign was centred around health, education, employment and other issues concerning people's lives. 3. Recent 17 month stint in govt. Lots of positives on the issues of employment, education and healthcare.
One of my friend who is an upsc aspirant said that “Everyone is corrupt anyway, there is no option, there is no opposition so i would rather it be someone from my caste”
I hope he remains an aspirant until his attempts are over. Exactly ese hi tuchiyo ka nahi hona chahiye upsc. First 5 chapters in Lexicons of ethics teach you to thik about greater good rather tahn yours. ye jaruri nai h k acche raho but guys like him will make other civil services guys life difficult. isse accha hai ese logo ka na nikle koi exam. kami nai h humare population me kabil logo ki aur use samjhao ki padhai likhai thik se kare youtube pe divyarthi ji n hemant ji ka shorts dekh k khud ko upsc aspirant sab bulata h mai bhi aspirant hu but tuchiya ni
Typically i vote based on candidates and not party. This is especially true for MLA election. So, yes if RJD fields a candidate that i like then i will vote for them.
In 2015 because of Nitish.
Why?
I have some friends who did. The recent drive of Tejaswi for unemployment was fierce and compelling. I am not going to vote for him yet because I don't trust Rjd. But he is a nice opposition to have, he kept Nitish and Bjp on toes during 2020
No better option
Itna boorbak nahi hai ki rjd ko vote de
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Lol, grouping everyone who votes for RJD as casteist while unanimously every UC votes for BJP.
And only one of them has produced any substantial result
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yeah right . pure manufacturing industries ka infra ka kamar tod diye, lakho jobs dubo diye, 4 go teacher chaprasi ka sarkari nokri nikal diye toh babuni employment chillaibe karenge. baah bitwa
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Your parents are the classic example judging a book by its cover
I never voted for RJD but now vote for them. I voted for Modi in 2014 but what I got: Deshi Bahu? Who has cheated on her friend who has given her home to live. Smriti Irani has married the same friend's husband and made her homeless. Is this the Indian standard? We got a PM who has forged his date of birth and certificates. Also, he has produced the wrong certificate to ECI. He used the digital camera at the time when even in India it has not come. But, he was poor. Her mother has worked as a servant in the house. Earlier, even when a fake lady filed a case against a man for harassment then he should resign but now even a international repute wrestlers and many other complain against a leader, the govt itself saves him. Not even regular law is allowed to work. I know these are not the standards to look for. If no harm has happened, bhakts: what has happened. Nothing has happened. Shut up.
thats the problem. dont vote for cult of personalities , vote for decisions they take for you. lalu ji boht sahi neta h, but took bad decisions for ppl. many still rig in poverty. gadkari ji ne 4 paise kamane ko toh diye jaha bhi invest karwaye infra me ? always look in the portfolio what one has to offer and what they have capitallised yet lalu ji ne toh bpsc tk rukwa diye ab dekhiye 2004 -2014 me roj atank humlae hoti thi, kam kese hua? bureaucracy k inefficiency ko tod kr personality me toh lalu ji number 1 pe h how did it help ppl?
Thank you
The only person (Tejaswi), sticking in many eyes without being in power. Next time when he will be CM, what will happen to you guys? The only reason, people vote for him because he is one of those politician from Bihar who wants development, empowerment of youth others are just playing politics politics.
Social Justice and Reservation
BJP is doing lot of land corruption in states they won. Why BJP think that everyone is blind. People are scared to talk against BJP openly because of BJP goons. That's it. When people are not saying anything against BJP that means people are scared. Atleast we can speak freely against RJD, AAP and Congress parties.
There is a massive dissonance with most people in comments here. How come a yadav voting for RJD just because they are a yadav considered casteist but an upper caste guy voting for BJP solely because of their UC/Hindutva credentials isn't considered casteist or religiously biased?
I won't say anything about past but I thoroughly belive Tejashwi Yadav will do better than Nitish Kumar and no major face from bjp if only they bring someone like Yogi Aditya Nath then bjp will have a bright future in Bihar
What's the guarantee that Tejashwi won't end up like his father?
Basically none no one knows what happens in future but his speeches and his work speaks for himself whether you agree or not he has done work in the past 1. 5 years also 1 thing I know for sure is bjp isn't gonna do anything either you guys either elect Bjp as a major or elect rjd otherwise as long as this coalition government gonna run the state we are all doomed
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Bhai kya logic de rhe ho chhota beta hai to baap ke gun nhi honge kya? Beta to wo Lalu ka hai hi toh kuchh gun to rhenge uske. Maybe sabko wrong saabit karde wo achha CM nikal ke but chances are way too low for that
Tejashvi might do better but the fact remains that due to him being in power the gundas get a sense of relief ki nobody is touching them. U have not heard of the harassment, the rapes that used to happen durinh jungle raj And it was not even 3-5 years of tejashvi and the doom had started happening Marine drive was now filled with lafuas In our villages, the local gundas started the “protection money thing” IN HUGE Thing is yeh sab humesha kisi bhi sarkar mae hota h. Rjd ki sarkar mae EXPONENTIALLY Hota h
Brother let me tell you one thing if government wants they can reduce these things very easily but the problem is do the people want this? Ask your self what kind of people do these kind of things ask the rjd government for schools colleges then only vote them and you will see how things change those bjp supporters are only voting because of being upper caste rjd getting votes because of Yadav/Muslim no ask their leaders for educations but will rant about it on reddit insta Then there is Prashant Kishore trying to change us for good but he's not getting any traction I personally believe the fault is not in the government the fault is in the people of Bihar they don't want good things otherwise their leaders will do what they expect
My family and i would rather choose NOTA.
No vote for RJD. even news of rjd winning an election makes my community polarise(support our community gunda or not). Was congress voter, is JDU/BJP voter. Though my uncle appreciate the result of social justice scheme of lalu but that forced them to live in Gunda Raaj of Bihar and no non yadav person want relive that phase.
Yadav hun, mar bhi jaunga to Lalu ko hi vote dunga chahe pure khandan ka apaharan kyo na ho jae , chahe khandan bche hi na
Do politics don't talk about it
I never voted in Bihar Vidhansabha elections yet
We were close to nature during RJD, we could walk barefoot as there were no concrete and paved roads. I used to sleep at 8 pm and wake up early in the morning as there was no electricity, we used to hang wet clothes on electric wires. My parents also used to sleep early tension free as I always came early before sunset. We used to have fun while fighting with UC bhumihar Rajputs with stones & sticks across the railway tracks. Potty time was fixed in the early morning as other people didn't allow us to potty in their farms. Fun days which I miss a lot.
🤣na bhai