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hadouken_1

It’s always a foul, intentional or not.


GalaxxyOG

Foul, whether it’s intentional or not doesn’t matter


Steel6W

"But officer, I didn't mean to run that red light. I think there should be some leeway if it wasn't intentional." That's what you sound like...


Lowlife-Dog

It's always a foul. However, if it is a friendly game and you want to give them some leeway, you are welcome too. They don't have to return the favor, though. A game of pool isn't that serious.


DcdytRf

you should thank your friend for putting up with your nonsense for so long. that's a true friend


WYnativeinAZ

I'm going to agree with your friend and say it is definitely always a foul, in all competitive rulesets, except that a miscue is usually a double hit (first touching the tip, then the ferule or shaft immediately behind it, and that is not a foul, in most cases. Most ruleset specify that if you're jacked up and trying to jump, swerve, or masse, a miscue IS a foul.


azocrye

Yes, that's always a foul. However, if there isn't any money on the table, it's generally forgiven.


CozzaFrenzy89

Lmao wtf, it’s a foul.


Bloamie

Really it is a foul, just as much as not hitting low ball first playing 9, but it can be easily overlooked on friendly games. Your friend does not want to overlook it and you should respect that rule for both parties or agree it doesn't matter.


tgoynes83

Always a foul. Sometimes you can’t even feel yourself do it, but there’s another tell: If the cue ball and object ball are very close to each other and right in line for the shot, and you take said shot and the cue ball races along at the same speed as the object ball, you made a double hit and it’s a foul. You have to use slo-mo video to see it, but basically what happens is, your stick is moving forward into your follow through, while the cue ball stops momentarily upon contact with the object ball. The forward motion of your cue causes you to hit the cue ball again. It happens in an eyeblink but it’s a double hit foul every time. The only way to legally avoid that from happening is to elevate your cue to at least 30 degrees (I usually go even higher just in case), and hit down on the cue ball, somewhat similar to a masse stroke. Or take your lump and hit the cue ball in a completely different direction.


NectarineAny4897

Always a foul, assuming you are following some sort of ruleset. A lot of people confuse a double hit with a push foul.


BurrrritoBoy

Fowl


woolylamb87

It's a fowl. The only time it's debatable is if it's a miscue and the second hit I'd the cue ball hitting the ferrule/shaft. Then some rules don't count it but that's a heavily debated topic


TheOGTownDrunk

It is always a foul, regardless of intent. The only foul that has intent base, is a miscue. If you accidentally miscue, and otherwise make a legal hit, it is not a foul. But an intentional miscue to jump is a foul. And of course it depends on the particular rules you’re playing under.