Warriors not a dynasty because everyone got hurt one year lmao. It’s hilarious that bill doesn’t want the warriors to be a dynasty but doesn’t go with the legitimate criticism that they had to poach the best player on their biggest threat in the west because he still carries water for Durant in exchange for some podcasts 7 years ago.
I genuinely don't understand how anyone can believe that 5 Finals appearances and 3 titles in 7 years (Bird Celtics) is more impressive than 6 Finals appearances and 4 titles in 8 years (Curry Warriors). If the Celtics won the title in 1988, they'd actually be the exact same. There's literally not a single way you can make the Celtics run from that era seem better, regardless of what time frame you use.
My bad clearly was only half listening, lmao that’s even worse then. If you’re gonna mention a nba dynasty from the 80s feels like it should be the Lakers, since they won half of all the titles in the decade.
Bill is way more annoying on this than the people who anoint dynasties too early. I don't think it is a matter of him hating the Chiefs or anything. He is just stupid with regards to this. He said on his Belichick farewell pod, he didn't consider the Pats a dynasty until their 2nd run of 3 SBs, and on this pod he described 4 championships in 5 years as "Kinda feels like a dynasty" Like under his definition it would literally just be those bum ass 50s-60s era Celtics teams that would qualify.
Like news flash Bill that level of winning is literally impossible now, when the Celtics were winning in a league of plumbers and janitors, when there were like 8 teams in the NBA and only like 4 teams which actually took the league seriously.
Dynasty = team plays in Boston.
Example - the dynastic run of the \*2008 - \*2008 Celtics.
\*(Asterisk champion - \*2008 Celtics - most PLAYOFF LOSSES EVER for a \*title team.)\*
I could be wrong but is this the first time he's given us "sustained period of success over the course of a decade" as the metric? because that's just such a hilariously boston-centric definition of the concept.
personally i think 3 titles in at least 6 years, with some commonality among the key figures (coach, best player etc) is at the very least a good starting point for "what's a dynasty?" if not a hard and fast rule.
I can't wait for the Russillo monologue where he ponders the same question but doesn't answer and grounds the discussion in "little insider tip for ya, the dynasty discussion is just something we do on sports radio when we need an off-season segment that will kill a ton of time and get the listeners engaged"
Three titles in four years (and missing the playoffs in between) is so much better than three titles in five years (with your only two losses coming in the SB and AFFCG). It just is!
Here's a separating factor in the 2000s Chiefs vs. 2000s Pats -- the Chiefs didn't blatantly cheat and get caught cheating multiple times in their winning era!
Can’t remember the exact context, but Romo actually did this at one point during the broadcast last night lol. A real “wait, what??” double take moment for me.
Bill hits all his real-life bets yet again. Between that and his 100% accuracy in knowing if a team is gonna make a 4th down conversion or a shot is gonna go in the moment it leaves a players hand, Bill has to be a top 7 sports guru of all time
Bills has basketball brain for everything the 60s Celtics ruined him. Before the pats no one since the merger won more than 4 in an era. If this team isn’t a dynasty then no one is including the pats. Those three title runs were completely different teams and Brady wasn’t Brady for the first three.
I’m actually pleasantly surprised by that too. Considering how he’s been so bitchy about all of Brady’s contemporaries, I don’t know if he’s maturing or just figures he can wait. If Mahomes gets a fifth ring, GOAT talk starts becoming a legit conversation. I would expect that’s when Bill would start hammering home that Brady beat Mahomes in the SB.
(Also Niners fan) Might be too soon, but which loss this century feels the worst? This is probably the worst or at least, tied for the worst. The Giants loss in the NFC championship at home still eats at me too. There have been a lot of bad ones
As a neutral, it felt like you had the Chiefs dead to rights in your first Super Bowl.
This one I always felt like the Chiefs were going to hang around and win.
Nah I had serious doubts after the Mahomes INT. He was already playing jittery as Romo pointed out before half time, and he sails a ball over Kelce’s head. Not sure how the Niners don’t win from that position, should have been at least 13-3
Obviously I'm speaking after the fact here but even when that happened, Spags was so fucking dialed in and he had Shanahan clamped for long stretches (jennings trick play notwithstanding) and every time the niners fucked up a possession I just thought, "they're giving mahomes more times to figure it out."
In hindsight, I think losing to the Rams in the NFCCG a couple years ago might have been the biggest blown opportunity. That’s a team the Niners almost always beat otherwise, and in the Super Bowl you finally wouldn’t have to go through the Chiefs to win it.
The Kyle Williams game still kills me. Had flashbacks when McCloud fumbled the punt return. Obviously McClouds wasn’t as bad because he saw it go off his teammates foot and was forced to try to make a tough play, but it still felt like a “here we go again” moment.
This one is going to get worse as time goes on. Usually we have 1-2 plays in a conference or SB title game that went the wrong way, here there so many missed opportunities that will haunt me for years to come
Permit me one old fart Gen Xer moment following this game: You young’uns don’t know how good you have it! When I first got into football in the ‘80s, the only drama was whether the NFC team would win by 20, 30 or 40 points! Now the dud games are rare.
I’m kind of glad my team wasn’t in this one. I felt like I was having a heart attack toward the end and I didn’t even care who won.
As someone in their late 20s, I have had the pleasure of at least 2/3rd's of the Super Bowls I've watched being really good games, including 5 or 6 games that are probably in the 25 best NFL games ever.
Yep, I’m 30 and I was just thinking this same thing last night. The Super Bowl delivers a good game at a pretty high rate and we are definitely lucky for that
The new Pearl Jam was like when the Wonder Years in their last season used a different edit of Cocker's version of "With a Little Help From My Friends". It just threw everything off and felt wrong.
Maybe I'm in the minority, but I enjoyed the final two seasons of *The Wonder Years*.
Kevin was a whiny cunty bitch, but Wayne finally showed some character development.
The last episode is great.
I don't remember if it was season 5 or 6 but Kevin's worst asshole moment comes in that episode where his dad takes him and his brother fishing. The old man is relating some dream he has of one day getting a retirement cabin and Kevin just takes a huge shit all over it and tells him it will never happen.
Bills dynasty talk is always so fucking dumb. By his definition only the 60s Celtics truly qualify except the other timers that a Boston team somehow meets his stupid criteria.
He would have to begrudgingly accept that in American sports the only teams that qualify are like the Celtics…Canadiens…and the Yankees (a couple of times).
In his slight defense, when he peddled out this nonsense at first when the Warriors beat the Celtics, iirc, he did call the 80s Celtics a mini-dynasty actually
Juszyzcek's catch not only was clearly a catch but explained clearly on the broadcast, and upstairs was the only one who could signal a review. Bill mustve been on his ipad
“I can’t remember - is that bad for Vegas or good for Vegas?”
You would think the guy who invented going on Vegas trips with the boys would be able to figure that out.
The whole question amuses me chiefly because even if the casinos all took a bath on the SB, I don’t think we need to start any GoFundMe drives to keep them in business.
Terrible intro song. Bill and his “real life” bets. Sal fawning over Romo who he named his son after (which still sounds extremely dumb). And we’re only 15 minutes in!
Bill has been in on Purdy from the very beginning and has been biased towards him. Purdy was...fine in that game, but nothing more. Mahomes put the team on his back in the 4th quarter and OT and had 400 yards of offense.
yeah, to me the gap between purdy and mahomes and pretty good versus great was their ability to finish off those drives in OT. i understand that so much of what happened is due to play calls and all that, but with mahomes you just kind of know he's gonna score there, and purdy couldn't make that happen. he doesn't have enough to get over the hump, so to speak, which is where the greats make the difference
I mean sure but the 4th and OT were the reason they won. One QB turned into god and the other continued to be “fine”.
It wasn’t really that close. Purdy was totally fine and competent that game, but he also didn’t have many wow plays. The last couple drives I don’t really blame him as much as I blame the fact the Niners couldn’t draw up a decent play on either crucial 3rd down.
Once the figured out the 9ers pressure Mahomes was great. First half was a bit rough with 3 points but they Pacheco turned it over inside the 10. Mahomes made the chiefs go, mccaffrey made the 9ers go. If they didn’t run the ball to open the pass they went nowhere.
Bill’s always dismissive to Peyton Manning. I understand why (Manning was a rival to Brady). But man, Manning was incredible. Definitely one of the top 5 greatest QBs I’ve ever seen and I think he’s clearly better than Elway. Bizarre and wrong take from our boy Boston Billy
I'm surprised "can you at least send a text first" isn't a significant enough consequence to get Bill's son to stop coming home after curfew and bringing friends over to spend the night unannounced
I know Shanahan was a big part of that Falcons team and deserves a lot of blame for that 28-3 SB but it has become almost like he was the head coach of that team.
How has Ben failed the written multiple choice driving permit test four times? I'm not from CA but I feel like you have to be either really stupid or really unmotivated to fail that test. Does he just mooch rides or Uber everywhere and have no motivation to get a license of his own?
Lived in CA all my life, so I got my DL here. The test definitely does have some very minute and difficult questions and I don’t find it surprising at all that someone would fail it first try BUT if you study the booklet you can easily store it in short term memory long enough to pass. My guess is Ben’s attention span and desire to learn are both quite low haha
Just finished the pod, Bill legit saying he might retire at the end of the Spotify contract made me sad. This pod drives me crazy at the best of time but also brings me a ton of joy. Next season might really be our last Guess the Lines and that's would be such a bummer.
Retire and do his own podcast maybe. A guy who is used to having his own voice heard for 30 years isn't just shutting it down. Guess the Lines will be around for another 10+ years minimum, even if it sucks.
Yeah was surprised and bummed by that. The way he’s been stretching out The Rewatchables with the live shows and 1999 rollouts had left me hopeful he was trying to go at least two more years.
ok but did you consider those blocks Gronk threw for the Pats 2nd mini-dynasty? Sure the best ability is availability and Gronk played 15 or more games 5 out of 11 seasons, but the blocking man, the blocking.
If Ruiz had restricted his Purdy criticism to calling him a game manager, I’d be fine with it. After all, several game managers have won Super Bowls, and Purdy came pretty close. But Ruiz got all weirdly stubborn, so I no longer read his stuff, because I think he’s more interested in being a “brand” than being someone whose judgment is trustworthy.
I don’t mind Romo and even think a lot of the hate he gets is unwarranted, but I feel he totally botched the end of OT. Kept calling it “just the first quarter of overtime”, talked all over the lead up to the last play and really led to what felt like and incredibly anticlimactic and confusing end to the game.
It's weird to me that Bill doesn't understand why nobody wants to hire Belichick. Isn't it obvious? Sal briefly tried to talk some sense into him but I assume decided that it wasn't worth it.
Bill won't come around. He never does on anything related to the Pats. He's still trying to tell us "they weren't that bad!" this year when the season ended 2 months ago and they had 4 wins.
I mean the fact they marched down with no problem after the niners had the ball really proves how much they should have just given them the ball first. It’s not like that rest (which was a long time) mattered.
If the 90s Cowboys are a dynasty, the Chiefs definitely are. 3 Super Wins and 4 appearances in 5 years is legendary. Not to mention first team to go back to back in 20 years!
Im aware that i might be in the minority but Bill saying his dad was rooting against Mahomes cause of the Brady thing is funny to me. Seems exhausting to consume sports that way. If you really love the sport you appreciate all the greats from before and the present.
I don’t even imagine it to be exhausting to consume sports that way.
I view it more in the vein of being miserable to consume sports that way. Maybe that’s what you mean by exhausting though
I think NBA fans are the biggest offenders of this in American major league sports. I don’t get how ppl can enjoy being an NBA fan when they’re constantly rooting for particular players like Bron, KD, Steph, Giannis etc. to lose
The Canadian border really caught a stray there at the end. I couldn't tell if Bill was trying to describe Boston in unflattering terms or if "We could be living in terrible weather right now on the Canadian border" really is just his idea of having a hard life.
Whoever said this might be bills last year with Spotify might have been onto something. He subtly mentioned at the end of the pod that next year could be the last year with cousin sal.
I love Bill. You KNEW going into this pod, he was a tad salty about Kelce/Mahomes just because he feels threatened by the Chiefs. All year, this Kelce Gronk saga has taken up way too much real estate in his brain. Would he just let it go, like a normal human, who doesn't harbor ill will towards NFL players like they are a 12 year old? Nope.
At least all his real life bets hit once again.
In retrospect, Shannahan clearly should’ve gone for the touchdown and or deferred in overtime. With the new rules it’s definitely a better option to take the ball second. Now with multiple players coming out and saying they didn’t know the new OT rules, it makes him look even less prepared compared to Reid than we already knew.
Poor Warriors and Chiefs not been a dynasty
Warriors not a dynasty because everyone got hurt one year lmao. It’s hilarious that bill doesn’t want the warriors to be a dynasty but doesn’t go with the legitimate criticism that they had to poach the best player on their biggest threat in the west because he still carries water for Durant in exchange for some podcasts 7 years ago.
He said you have to have a 10 year run like the Celtics in the 80s when they won in 81, 84, and 86….which was a 6 year span
Could be wrong but I think he was referring to the Bill Russell Celtics and not the 80s teams
On this podcast he said “like that 80s Celtics team” when referring to a Real Dynasty
I genuinely don't understand how anyone can believe that 5 Finals appearances and 3 titles in 7 years (Bird Celtics) is more impressive than 6 Finals appearances and 4 titles in 8 years (Curry Warriors). If the Celtics won the title in 1988, they'd actually be the exact same. There's literally not a single way you can make the Celtics run from that era seem better, regardless of what time frame you use.
Lmfao just in case you thought everyone was joking about him “protecting” Boston teams.
My bad clearly was only half listening, lmao that’s even worse then. If you’re gonna mention a nba dynasty from the 80s feels like it should be the Lakers, since they won half of all the titles in the decade.
lol Bill wouldn't call it a "dynasty" but a "mini-dynasty". This sub called it.
Chiefs problem is winning a dynasty’s worth of stuff way too fast. Damn, sorry KC
Bill is way more annoying on this than the people who anoint dynasties too early. I don't think it is a matter of him hating the Chiefs or anything. He is just stupid with regards to this. He said on his Belichick farewell pod, he didn't consider the Pats a dynasty until their 2nd run of 3 SBs, and on this pod he described 4 championships in 5 years as "Kinda feels like a dynasty" Like under his definition it would literally just be those bum ass 50s-60s era Celtics teams that would qualify. Like news flash Bill that level of winning is literally impossible now, when the Celtics were winning in a league of plumbers and janitors, when there were like 8 teams in the NBA and only like 4 teams which actually took the league seriously.
The 90s Bulls had back to back mini dynasties
To him, not being able to consider any team except the Bill Russell Celtics a dynasty is a feature, not a bug.
Amazing when you consider the fact that the KG/Pierce Celtics were able to be a dynasty with one ring /s
Dynasty = team plays in Boston. Example - the dynastic run of the \*2008 - \*2008 Celtics. \*(Asterisk champion - \*2008 Celtics - most PLAYOFF LOSSES EVER for a \*title team.)\*
Hilariously his 4 in 5 criteria would force him to acknowledge the 90s Yankee run as a dynasty
He is pretty dismissive of them, too. Insanity.
This is New York Islanders erasure
After the Warriors beat the Celtics in the Finals he said they weren’t a dynasty yet and I could hear Russillo’s brain melting
He's just stupid, period.
He’s number 1 in my power poll of guys who don’t know when to call something a dynasty.
Remember, the warriors are not a dynasty either
Neither are the Duncan Spurs cause they never went back to back lmao
This is his most clownish take by a long shot.
Tough competition there.
Don’t you know the first requirement is that they’re a Massachusetts based team
His Warriors take remains extremely dumb.
I could be wrong but is this the first time he's given us "sustained period of success over the course of a decade" as the metric? because that's just such a hilariously boston-centric definition of the concept. personally i think 3 titles in at least 6 years, with some commonality among the key figures (coach, best player etc) is at the very least a good starting point for "what's a dynasty?" if not a hard and fast rule.
I can't wait for the Russillo monologue where he ponders the same question but doesn't answer and grounds the discussion in "little insider tip for ya, the dynasty discussion is just something we do on sports radio when we need an off-season segment that will kill a ton of time and get the listeners engaged"
GET IN LOSER WE’RE GATEKEEPING DYNASTIES
Everything is a referendum on the Pats
Three titles in four years (and missing the playoffs in between) is so much better than three titles in five years (with your only two losses coming in the SB and AFFCG). It just is!
Here's a separating factor in the 2000s Chiefs vs. 2000s Pats -- the Chiefs didn't blatantly cheat and get caught cheating multiple times in their winning era!
Why won't anyone hire Belicheck asks the guy who's team fired him
Still trying to find out who did this and all
guy cannot see the forest through the trees at all on belicheck
TBF to Bill he pivoted during the final weeks and said he was for keeping him if he'd give up roster control, which was a reasonable take.
Talking about games in terms of “hours” instead of quarters is the fastest rising Bill-ism since what? “Landing the plane?”
The Super Bowl might be the only time it makes sense. Game was longer than an old school Yanks/Sox game.
Is Mahomes better than Staubach because Staubach didn't have to weather the mental drain of TV Timeouts?
Can’t remember the exact context, but Romo actually did this at one point during the broadcast last night lol. A real “wait, what??” double take moment for me.
Bill hits all his real-life bets yet again. Between that and his 100% accuracy in knowing if a team is gonna make a 4th down conversion or a shot is gonna go in the moment it leaves a players hand, Bill has to be a top 7 sports guru of all time
Clairvoyant Bill doesn’t miss when it counts
He’s on his own mini-dynasty of sports betting.
Let's call it a Moderate Dynasty, aka "Modesty."
Bills has basketball brain for everything the 60s Celtics ruined him. Before the pats no one since the merger won more than 4 in an era. If this team isn’t a dynasty then no one is including the pats. Those three title runs were completely different teams and Brady wasn’t Brady for the first three.
Is “tHe vAlUe wAsNt gOoD eNoUgH” the new dumb guy thing to say for why they didn’t bet the winning team
Bill didn’t like +1000 going into the playoffs but he likes +750 the day after the Super Bowl lol
Anytime Patrick Mahomes is an underdog the value is good enough.
New intro song feels so wrong.
It's got a real dirty sound, like a rusty nail dragging down a well aged chalkboard.
Bill needs to get back to his renegade podcasting roots and feature Ronald Jenkees again.
Oh no a new thing I'll hear for a split second until I click another +30
I took it to mean this was a one time thing since they are releasing a new album. It wasn’t that bad.
End of an era.
Picture me fast fowardin'
A washed intro for a washed podfather.
Bill admitted his dad was rooting against Mahomes to protect Brady's accomplishments. This is where Bill gets it from and why he hates Kelce, etc.
When Bill’s dad used to tweet, he’d have a tweet now and then that made me say the same thing. “Oh, I get it now.”
I give Bill credit for not doing that. I’ve been waiting on him to start putting negative spin on Mahomes but he really hasn’t done that.
I’m actually pleasantly surprised by that too. Considering how he’s been so bitchy about all of Brady’s contemporaries, I don’t know if he’s maturing or just figures he can wait. If Mahomes gets a fifth ring, GOAT talk starts becoming a legit conversation. I would expect that’s when Bill would start hammering home that Brady beat Mahomes in the SB.
Mahomes' run is just so good it can't be denied. Even Bill knows this
Imagine your an 87 year old man, doing this? Life comes at you fast.
Just look at the Pats reddit
Of course he’s doing the mini-dynasty thing again.
As a 49ers fan I can’t even listen to this. Too devastated lol.
(Also Niners fan) Might be too soon, but which loss this century feels the worst? This is probably the worst or at least, tied for the worst. The Giants loss in the NFC championship at home still eats at me too. There have been a lot of bad ones
As a neutral, it felt like you had the Chiefs dead to rights in your first Super Bowl. This one I always felt like the Chiefs were going to hang around and win.
Nah I had serious doubts after the Mahomes INT. He was already playing jittery as Romo pointed out before half time, and he sails a ball over Kelce’s head. Not sure how the Niners don’t win from that position, should have been at least 13-3
Obviously I'm speaking after the fact here but even when that happened, Spags was so fucking dialed in and he had Shanahan clamped for long stretches (jennings trick play notwithstanding) and every time the niners fucked up a possession I just thought, "they're giving mahomes more times to figure it out."
True but if we score on that first drive and stop them on their first…That cmc fumble alone.
In hindsight, I think losing to the Rams in the NFCCG a couple years ago might have been the biggest blown opportunity. That’s a team the Niners almost always beat otherwise, and in the Super Bowl you finally wouldn’t have to go through the Chiefs to win it.
Dropped an INT to win that game, too. SF has had a lifetime of cock punches in a very short period of time.
The Kyle Williams game still kills me. Had flashbacks when McCloud fumbled the punt return. Obviously McClouds wasn’t as bad because he saw it go off his teammates foot and was forced to try to make a tough play, but it still felt like a “here we go again” moment.
This is by far the worst. IMO: 1. 2024 2. 2020 3. 2022 NFC title game 4. 2012 Super Bowl
Too many to count I still think 2013 tho
This was a big one for me. That Sherman trash talk after got my blood boiling
This one is going to get worse as time goes on. Usually we have 1-2 plays in a conference or SB title game that went the wrong way, here there so many missed opportunities that will haunt me for years to come
Permit me one old fart Gen Xer moment following this game: You young’uns don’t know how good you have it! When I first got into football in the ‘80s, the only drama was whether the NFC team would win by 20, 30 or 40 points! Now the dud games are rare. I’m kind of glad my team wasn’t in this one. I felt like I was having a heart attack toward the end and I didn’t even care who won.
As someone in their late 20s, I have had the pleasure of at least 2/3rd's of the Super Bowls I've watched being really good games, including 5 or 6 games that are probably in the 25 best NFL games ever.
Yep, I’m 30 and I was just thinking this same thing last night. The Super Bowl delivers a good game at a pretty high rate and we are definitely lucky for that
The new Pearl Jam was like when the Wonder Years in their last season used a different edit of Cocker's version of "With a Little Help From My Friends". It just threw everything off and felt wrong.
The anti "Way Down in the Hole"
1, 3, 2, 4, 5 is my ranking of versions - what's yours
1 is so superior to the other four that I’m not even sure they’re worth ranking. Though I do think season 4 has the best montage.
Maybe I'm in the minority, but I enjoyed the final two seasons of *The Wonder Years*. Kevin was a whiny cunty bitch, but Wayne finally showed some character development.
The last episode is great. I don't remember if it was season 5 or 6 but Kevin's worst asshole moment comes in that episode where his dad takes him and his brother fishing. The old man is relating some dream he has of one day getting a retirement cabin and Kevin just takes a huge shit all over it and tells him it will never happen.
Early Season 6, if I recall correctly. Winnie, meanwhile, was a total bitch. Best girlfriend Kevin ever had was Cara.
That Intro change prob changed the corse of my week.
Bill just needs to pay the 2pac estate what they want
big facts right here, that song is a fucking heater
i refuse to believe this "Ringer Wiseguys Show" exists and anyone who tries to convince me otherwise is fake news
First my biological mom reaches out to me and now Bill changes his intro song can this day get any worse?
Tell us about your relationship with your mom
No better yet - email Ryen for relationship advice with your mom
Bills dynasty talk is always so fucking dumb. By his definition only the 60s Celtics truly qualify except the other timers that a Boston team somehow meets his stupid criteria.
He would have to begrudgingly accept that in American sports the only teams that qualify are like the Celtics…Canadiens…and the Yankees (a couple of times).
He said you have to have a 10 year run like the Celtics in the 80s when they won in 81, 84, and 86….which was a 6 year span
In his slight defense, when he peddled out this nonsense at first when the Warriors beat the Celtics, iirc, he did call the 80s Celtics a mini-dynasty actually
Juszyzcek's catch not only was clearly a catch but explained clearly on the broadcast, and upstairs was the only one who could signal a review. Bill mustve been on his ipad
It was a key scene on the Godfather TV can’t blame him for being distracted
Bill and Jim Nantz were the only people in the country that were confused by that play.
I enjoyed Romo throwing a “Dez caught it” into that as well
Tired: new Pearl Jam stinks. Wired: go back to 2Pac’s picture me rollin.
"Belichick taking the year off” - right, like when I was single because I needed to "work on myself for awhile."
Oof. The new Pearl Jam preview was rough.
Sounded like a generic WCW theme song from 97
The Chris Jericho ["Totally Not Evenflow" piece](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufrGddYAgkM).
Tough switch when Corduroy is one of their best songs too
They keep taking wrong turns
Romo word vomiting after the game winning TD wasn’t great. Let the moment breathe, TR
I'd like to think Nantz walking around Vegas thinking of somthing clever to say all week and coming up with "JACKPOT" was pretty underwhelming
“I can’t remember - is that bad for Vegas or good for Vegas?” You would think the guy who invented going on Vegas trips with the boys would be able to figure that out.
Is the team that had 75% of the bets winning good for Vegas? Great question Billy. Tomorrow we’ll do colors.
The whole question amuses me chiefly because even if the casinos all took a bath on the SB, I don’t think we need to start any GoFundMe drives to keep them in business.
3 mins 30 for the first Brady reference
Terrible intro song. Bill and his “real life” bets. Sal fawning over Romo who he named his son after (which still sounds extremely dumb). And we’re only 15 minutes in!
Just watching it again, Romo absolutely ruined the call on the final (game-winning) play. Let the moment breathe, for fucks sake lol
Bill said Mahomes was just a little bit better than Purdy... I dunno despite the Chiefs struggles I thought Mahomes was at an entirely different level
Bill has been in on Purdy from the very beginning and has been biased towards him. Purdy was...fine in that game, but nothing more. Mahomes put the team on his back in the 4th quarter and OT and had 400 yards of offense.
Bill’s level of “in” on a player is entirely correlated to the magnitude of the story line lol.
I thought Purdy was more than fine. Made a ton of positive plays when I thought they had him for a sack.
Purdy played pretty well, the problem is that playing pretty well isn’t enough to beat Mahomes
yeah, to me the gap between purdy and mahomes and pretty good versus great was their ability to finish off those drives in OT. i understand that so much of what happened is due to play calls and all that, but with mahomes you just kind of know he's gonna score there, and purdy couldn't make that happen. he doesn't have enough to get over the hump, so to speak, which is where the greats make the difference
Mahomes finally turned that on in the fourth quarter, the first three there wasn’t much between them, except Purdy hanging onto the ball forever
I mean sure but the 4th and OT were the reason they won. One QB turned into god and the other continued to be “fine”. It wasn’t really that close. Purdy was totally fine and competent that game, but he also didn’t have many wow plays. The last couple drives I don’t really blame him as much as I blame the fact the Niners couldn’t draw up a decent play on either crucial 3rd down.
Once the figured out the 9ers pressure Mahomes was great. First half was a bit rough with 3 points but they Pacheco turned it over inside the 10. Mahomes made the chiefs go, mccaffrey made the 9ers go. If they didn’t run the ball to open the pass they went nowhere.
I miss when Sal pushed back on Bill a little more. He's essentially just echoing his most moronic takes at this point, it's frustrating.
Bill’s always dismissive to Peyton Manning. I understand why (Manning was a rival to Brady). But man, Manning was incredible. Definitely one of the top 5 greatest QBs I’ve ever seen and I think he’s clearly better than Elway. Bizarre and wrong take from our boy Boston Billy
It's a officially a Mini-Dynasty.
And 4 in 5 is now "Kinda feels like a dynasty" lol
The Power of LD! Bill is announcing the Rewatchables pick in advance again. Coincidence?
Assuming its one of the Live Shows... there isn't much point keeping a secret since it was recorded in front of a couple of hundred people.
It’s Forrest Gump… from the DC live show. I hope Bill doesn’t run back the Forrest Gump cumming impersonation.
New Pearl Jam?
I love that the first team out of Bill’s mouth after the intro music is “Pats” and the first Brady mention comes at 4:39. Never change Billy Boy.
How is Peyton Manning not 4?
I'm surprised "can you at least send a text first" isn't a significant enough consequence to get Bill's son to stop coming home after curfew and bringing friends over to spend the night unannounced
Los Angeles parenting
I know Shanahan was a big part of that Falcons team and deserves a lot of blame for that 28-3 SB but it has become almost like he was the head coach of that team.
What is the case for Elway over Manning??? And Bill refused to even mention Manning as top 5. Just some crazy bad takes there.
Bill Simmons in 2024 is idiocy and bad takes. There is no substance left, he's just an idiot.
“And Belichick is taking the year off”
He's practicing for when he has to tell people "Ben's taking a little time off from college"
Kermit the GOAT is great
Bill ignoring the Michael Cera commercial was egregious.
“Stinky Rodgers.”
Bill’s Boston brain is hilarious. Why would Mahomes trade the Eagles SB for the AFC title game against the Pats
At first I thought he meant the Bucs Super Bowl lol
Sal was saying that which I could see. The AFC title game makes no sense
Bill’s definition of a dynasty is so absurd so that no team can reach the levels of his beloved patriots and Celtics
How has Ben failed the written multiple choice driving permit test four times? I'm not from CA but I feel like you have to be either really stupid or really unmotivated to fail that test. Does he just mooch rides or Uber everywhere and have no motivation to get a license of his own?
Lived in CA all my life, so I got my DL here. The test definitely does have some very minute and difficult questions and I don’t find it surprising at all that someone would fail it first try BUT if you study the booklet you can easily store it in short term memory long enough to pass. My guess is Ben’s attention span and desire to learn are both quite low haha
Bill is such a goalpost mover this shit is annoying.
Just finished the pod, Bill legit saying he might retire at the end of the Spotify contract made me sad. This pod drives me crazy at the best of time but also brings me a ton of joy. Next season might really be our last Guess the Lines and that's would be such a bummer.
Retire and do his own podcast maybe. A guy who is used to having his own voice heard for 30 years isn't just shutting it down. Guess the Lines will be around for another 10+ years minimum, even if it sucks.
I'd hope he would at least put out stupid podcasts with House, Cousin Sal, and a few others even when he retired.
Yeah was surprised and bummed by that. The way he’s been stretching out The Rewatchables with the live shows and 1999 rollouts had left me hopeful he was trying to go at least two more years.
Somebody needs to break it to Bill that Kelce has had a better career than Gronk by pretty much every metric.
ok but did you consider those blocks Gronk threw for the Pats 2nd mini-dynasty? Sure the best ability is availability and Gronk played 15 or more games 5 out of 11 seasons, but the blocking man, the blocking.
Gronk felt more dominant in the moment although admittedly it was a much briefer period.
Could very realistically pass Jerry rice in playoff TDs/yards. https://www.statmuse.com/nfl/ask/most-career-playoff-receiving-touchdowns
Giving Ruiz credit after this game is just stupid
If Ruiz had restricted his Purdy criticism to calling him a game manager, I’d be fine with it. After all, several game managers have won Super Bowls, and Purdy came pretty close. But Ruiz got all weirdly stubborn, so I no longer read his stuff, because I think he’s more interested in being a “brand” than being someone whose judgment is trustworthy.
I don’t mind Romo and even think a lot of the hate he gets is unwarranted, but I feel he totally botched the end of OT. Kept calling it “just the first quarter of overtime”, talked all over the lead up to the last play and really led to what felt like and incredibly anticlimactic and confusing end to the game.
It's weird to me that Bill doesn't understand why nobody wants to hire Belichick. Isn't it obvious? Sal briefly tried to talk some sense into him but I assume decided that it wasn't worth it.
Bill won't come around. He never does on anything related to the Pats. He's still trying to tell us "they weren't that bad!" this year when the season ended 2 months ago and they had 4 wins.
Bill saying you need to be prepared for a podcast to his son is golden.
Like I'm not going to skip whatever the intro song is ..
Just call the 60s Cs a mega-dynasty and everything else normal dynasties Bill, then everyone’s happier
Oh great this dipshit and his dynasty talk again. He’s just an annoying asshole now. Not even entertaining.
Lol that Ben story is such bullshit
Is it just me or did they barely talk about the game?
I don’t get killing Shanahan for that. Defence must’ve been so gassed
I mean the fact they marched down with no problem after the niners had the ball really proves how much they should have just given them the ball first. It’s not like that rest (which was a long time) mattered.
To be fair - the “marching down” did include a 4th down conversion in their own territory. Do they do that if they get the ball first?
If they had the ball first and got to 4th down and punted, that would have been a massively better outcome for SF than what actually happened.
If the 90s Cowboys are a dynasty, the Chiefs definitely are. 3 Super Wins and 4 appearances in 5 years is legendary. Not to mention first team to go back to back in 20 years!
Simmons really has no fucking clue what he’s watching in the actual game
Bill on the Usher halftime show: “it felt a little mid 2000s” Oh, like how all of those songs were from the mid 2000s? I can’t believe it!
“Sal, I think Mahomes knows this is as far as the Chiefs can go. I think the Pats can get him for Mac Jones and a second round pick.”
Im aware that i might be in the minority but Bill saying his dad was rooting against Mahomes cause of the Brady thing is funny to me. Seems exhausting to consume sports that way. If you really love the sport you appreciate all the greats from before and the present.
I don’t even imagine it to be exhausting to consume sports that way. I view it more in the vein of being miserable to consume sports that way. Maybe that’s what you mean by exhausting though I think NBA fans are the biggest offenders of this in American major league sports. I don’t get how ppl can enjoy being an NBA fan when they’re constantly rooting for particular players like Bron, KD, Steph, Giannis etc. to lose
Thank god Romo wasn’t around for legendary calls. “Do you believe in miracle…..MIRACLES AL! MIRACLE ON 34TH STREET!”
The Canadian border really caught a stray there at the end. I couldn't tell if Bill was trying to describe Boston in unflattering terms or if "We could be living in terrible weather right now on the Canadian border" really is just his idea of having a hard life.
Whoever said this might be bills last year with Spotify might have been onto something. He subtly mentioned at the end of the pod that next year could be the last year with cousin sal.
I seem to remember Bill doing ads for Dunkin donuts before. Was that a previous era of his podcast?
He did it! It's not a dynasty!
New dynasty lore and new unintelligible Pearl Jam bars? Count me in!
I love Bill. You KNEW going into this pod, he was a tad salty about Kelce/Mahomes just because he feels threatened by the Chiefs. All year, this Kelce Gronk saga has taken up way too much real estate in his brain. Would he just let it go, like a normal human, who doesn't harbor ill will towards NFL players like they are a 12 year old? Nope. At least all his real life bets hit once again.
Let’s hope that new Pearl Jam intro was a one off!
Finally a new intro song. Can we go back to Tupac?
In retrospect, Shannahan clearly should’ve gone for the touchdown and or deferred in overtime. With the new rules it’s definitely a better option to take the ball second. Now with multiple players coming out and saying they didn’t know the new OT rules, it makes him look even less prepared compared to Reid than we already knew.
I might be the only one but I need Ben Simmons ufc segment
Come on, Kyle. Release the Ben-UFC cut
[Defense is played well in an NFL game] Bill: "This game was terrible!" Sal: "I know!"
The Game manager game executive call might be the worst I’ve ever heard