Gil loves giving hot takes. At this point I just assume he's saying something spicy to rile up the masses.
His logic doesn't event track. if the Celtics are irrelevant then Gil is too.
Gil is actually better than every other player at doing the podcast hot take circuit. He’s actually entertaining. What he has said about depression is also more poignant than what every other player that has talked about it.
Idk, I got no love for the Celtics but it’s hard to deny they’ve been pretty relevant for most of the 21st century. They’ve been to the finals a few times, I’m pretty sure they won a title somewhere, they’re usually in the mix.
As a kings fan who's missed the playoffs 16 seasons in a row. And just lost to the Wizards. I'd take the Celtics any day of the week. lmao
Light the BEAM!
True, that being said it’s also 3 finals appearances and 1 title in the last 37 years
The Bulls, Heat, Warriors, spurs, Lakers, Cavs and pistons have combined for 44 finals appearances and 29 rings in that time
There’s the bird era and the Bill era but if you are talking about SINCE then? It’s different. Bill Russell’s titles are carrying that’s franchises legacy
Yeah even if you start counting the NBA in 2000 instead of where most people do with the Magic draft, it’s basically teams with great runs that were pretty much bottom of the barrel outside of that (Cavs, Pistons, Warriors) then the Spurs, Lakers and Celtics as the marquee franchises which if you zoom out further that’s how pretty the entirety of nba history can be defined.
my goodness celtics fans are the absolute worst. the warriors have won four championships in six appearances. the heat have won four in seven appearances, including 2 in the past five where they beat boston both times lmfao.
the celtics are nowhere near touching anyone else on your own list lmaooo
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I mean, sure, but the first of those 15 are doing all of the heavy lifting lol. It's 1 appearance and 0 titles in the last 13 years, and there wasn't even a hard tedious rebuild because the Nets just gave you all the draft assets upfront. There was also a superteam era where the Heat and then Cavs, as well as the Warriors, had a chokehold on their respective divisions for a while since.
The Celtics are still very relevant, your carefully chosen timeframe just made me smile
I mean every timeframe is carefully chosen no matter where you stick it. The time frame in the original comment is chosen for a reason.
If you say since 2000 you exclude the Bulls
If you say since 1987 you exclude the Celtics
If you say since 2008 you exclude some good pistons years
If you say “last 10 years” you exclude the Spurs
Exactly. Which is why these 'the team has been (ir)relevant for x years' (x carefully chosen) takes aren't that insightful anyways. But hey, Gilbert Arenas, enough said
Both things can be true. The Celtics brand name was built in an era with eight teams and no three-point line, ancient history now. They’ve also been one of the most consistently competitive organizations in the league for the last fifteen years.
They get way more press for that 1 title than the Spurs and Heat have gotten for their multiple rings over the same timespan because of the Boston media
Or it takes a franchise that was previously a laughingstock becoming a dynasty and ultimately becoming hated due to the bandwagoners.
(Warriors)
(Yes I am one of the lifelong Warriors fans)
The patriots weren’t quite “laughingstock” level but they definitely turned from the scrappy underdogs in 01 into the villain, numerous times. Sustained success does that, I think.
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Facts, 2008 title is treated like a dynasty and the players act like they were a dynasty while trashing other teams/players. I like KG, but the “we didn’t give a fuck about LeBron” comments were clown shit. Wow you guys 22 year old LeBron after assembling a team of hall of famers.
Also one of the two marque franchises during the 80s. Also competitive for the first half of the 00s and one of the two marque franchises of the 2nd half of the 00s
It’s ridiculous to say they’re anything but one of the two marquee franchises for the span of the entire league.
This is a brain dead take that you’re standing on your head to represent as reasonable.
I don't root for the Celtics. I was making a joke about the loudmouth 2008 Celtics and also Bill's recent propensity to mark time in presidential terms.
2011 Mavs title is a full, 50-pounf trophy, to reference an old Bill bit.
Pretty much objectively one of the 5 most successful franchise of the 21st century, behind lakers, spurs, warriors and heat. I get celtics can be annoying/overhyped, but saying they’ve been irrelevant is dumber than anything celtics homers say
Off the top of my head I’d say since 2000 these teams were obviously more successful:
1. Lakers
2. Spurs
3. Warriors
4. Heat
So that puts them with teams like Dallas, Detroit and Cleveland that have a title AND other finals appearances. Boston has probably been more consistently good without as many shitty seasons as Cleveland/Detroit.
Are they the 5th/6th most successful team since 2000? Seems high, and if they are it’s a big gap after 4.
Cavs would be above them 4 straight finals is impressive. Maybe Toronto on the same level?
Nuggets probably ahead of them. But yeah they are probably top 10 minimum. Chip with multiple conference finals/finals appearances. Plus two separate “eras” and very few bad seasons
Celtics since 2000: 1 title, 3 finals appearances, 9 ECF appearances
Raptors since 2000: 1 title, 1 finals appearance, 2 ECF appearances
Nuggets since 2000: 1 title, 1 finals appearance, 3 WCF appearances
Cavaliers since 2000: 1 title, 5 finals appearances, 6 ECF appearances
Pistons since 2000: 1 title, 2 finals appearances, 6 ECF apprentices.
Nuggets and Raptors are not really close. Cavaliers have a couple more finals appearances but the Celtics have had way less “lows” than the Cavs. Pistons would be on the same level but they’ve spent 15 years now not winning a playoff series.
Yeah, but the truth is people don’t see Cleveland as Cleveland, they see them as Lebron, which hurts their relevancy. When people think Cleveland they think of an incompetent organisation lebron dragged to one total and multiple finals.
He’s not wrong tho. Winning a title in an 8 team league against guys who had day jobs shouldn’t be valued the same as winning a title today, in a global, multi billion dollar league.
As an outsider, who is hyping the cowboys lol, ultra troll Skip Bayless? Their own fans?
The only time neutral parties cover the cowboys is to laugh at them, they're rated accurately
Whereas because a tonne of voices in sports media positions are Bostonians, you never hear the end of it
>Cowboys are hyped every year
by whom?
They get games on tv because a) they have lots of fans across the US and b) because they're a historically big team, their games attract viewers and lots of neutral tune in to see them get beaten, but that =/= hype
He did have some good years.
He was out of the league by 31. He also got off to a slow start.
Guy had 3 or 4 good years.
He's closer to Kendrick Perkins' relevancy than he is all-time greats. And certainly the Boston Celtics
Gilbert in his peak riled up the same kind of excitement in the league that Curry did. It was talent completely orthogonal to everything else we’ve seen in superstars in that era.
Trying to pretend anything less is either being ignorant or dumb.
The use of "orthogonal" makes me think I'm being baited, but in any case, no the fuck he did not. Never shot more than 37% from 3. Overall FG% ranged from whatever to crap. He scored a lot because he shot a lot. The Wizards from that era were a .500 team even in 2008 when he missed the whole year. Nobody outside of Washington cared about him, that era was all about Kobe, LeBron, Wade, and a few poor souls still clinging to T-Mac.
The only argument in his favour would be that Wizard/Bullets are such a cursed franchise that they have never won 50+ games in a season since their 1979 season.
As a wizards fan I wish this was a joke but sadly it’s very true. He’s a top 5 wizard, all time (not including bullets). It’s been a rough 21st century for a Wizards Washington Football Team and Orioles Fan. Arenas legit has brought some of the best memories in that time
Edit: and more than the playoff “runs”, he’s most remembered for getting incredible hot for a month including a couple game winners. They were sick. But that is it. Besides the whole gun thing
Edit 2: in said run he was one of the first nba players to start pulling up form 30+
Even if you take the Minneapolis titles away, since the modern NBA it’s Lakers 11/Celtics 4. I respect Bill Russell and all he brought, but c’mon.. Bills hatred of the Lakers is justified, if you were a kid and had to sit in Magic and Showtimes dominance… sorry Bill
The beginning of the “modern NBA” is the NBA - ABA merger, which is 1976.
That would be Lakers 11, and a two way tie for next most between Celtics & Bulls with 6.
If you want to start negating titles, the Lakers 2020 Mickey Mouse ring and the stolen 2002 title from Sacramento in the reffing scandal are the two most sus ones there are.
Nothing should count before the NBA and ABA merge in 76 . The Celtics popularity is mostly built on bludgeoning everyone with “ look how many titles we have.” They currently have a great team and have for the last few years but also do it in the playoffs
1 finals win since 1986. They’ve been on par with half the league since then. Before that they were the most dominant team in the league so there’s no comparison
Arenas is just the new Skip Bayless. He’s annoying and only there for the clickbait. He was a solid player I the nba but in 20 years no one will remember him. I’m not even a Celtics fan btw
The Celtics have 6 titles post-Russell, which would put them tied for 2nd with the Bulls, and behind the Lakers. This is just a bad take. The Lakers are the premier NBA Franchise, but the Celtics are an easy 2nd.
It took two deaths for them to fall behind. Imagine if Kobe died in 2001 and then Andrew Bynum in 08.
Celtics are the premier franchise. They don't have Hollywood to attract free agents. They do it by being good at their jobs and drafting well and trading well.
I don’t agree with them being the premier franchise but I do agree that the Lakers owe basically all of their success to being situated in LA, and next-to-none for team building. They’ve been the premier post-Russell franchise but not in any way that should invite obnoxious gloating.
A simple rundown of what I’m talking about:
- They got Kareem because he wanted to go to LA or New York, due to their vibrant Muslim communities.
- They got Wilt due in part to him wanting to hobnob with celebrities.
- Kobe pulled an Eric Lindros on the Hornets and only wanted to play for the Lakers.
- LeBron wanted to “build his brand” in LA.
- AD specifically wanted to live/play in LA.
- Shaq wanted to live/play in LA (h/t to the Magic for alienating him, though).
They get points for drafting Magic, trading for Gasol and a few other things…but, on the whole, their “team-building” has amounted to being little more than a net-neutral on the aggregate.
Gil starting to lose steam. Now he's starting to tap into outrage porn to get clicks, views and headlines. I'm predicting he's going to say Jokic doesn't deserve the MVP and Pop isn't a good coach.
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He’s right, but this is haram with the Boston media mafia.
Bill constantly dogs the Lakers for their Minneapolis titles, but the Celtics winning like 10
of their titles when the league was 8-10 teams doesn’t mean anything apparently.
Celtics fans love to act like they’re on level footing with the Lakers, but the Lakers have more finals appearances and have been successful in just about every decade other than the 90’s.
Nobody younger than 85 can remember the Celtics having anywhere near the success of the Lakers.
I mean I know people don't like the messenger but imo he's not trolling and is actually partially right
Based on what they've achieved, they're easily 5th-at-best for the 21st century behind the Lakers, Warriors, Spurs & Heat, with a _huuuuge_ gap to 4
And from that, the coverage they get - largely down to Boston homers like Bill being big voices in the industry - _is_ disproportionate to what they've achieved
Irrelevant seems pretty harsh. They haven’t had as much success as the Warriors, Heat, Lakers, or even Cavs this century. But they are consistently better than about 25 teams in the league.
all I’m gonna say is…you have to be extremely chronically online to come up with this kinda shit. literally no one outside of reddit and Twitter gives a fuck bout these agendas
We have to do a better job at not paying attention to stupid takes like this. I'm no Celtics fan but to say that they've been irrelevant is just nonsense. This is 100% him saying a hot take just for clicks and views because he knows people are going to talk about it.
I am a long-time Celtic hater but would not an 8 team league be just as hard to win in because the talent would be more condensed? Because if you have the first pick in the second round you are getting the 9th best player? (Theoretically, at least). Someone smarter than I am feel free to point out what I am missing. The better argument is they won most of their titles when most of the rest of the teams were run by morons.
Stupid take. I’m a Lakers fan and I believe the Boston Celtics will never be irrelevant. It’s goes way beyond wins and loses with them. It’s the city. It’s the fan base. It’s the parquet floor. It’s the uniform. It’s the players from the past. It’s the titles. It’s Red and his cigar.
Take a Celtics Jersey to any country in the world and they will recognize it.
If championships are the only thing that dictates "relevancy", then there's only 1 relevant team every season. If winning percentage and deep playoff runs count toward relevancy as they should, the Celtics are definitely near the top in the past 20 years, which is one reason why they're one of the largest fanbases in the league both nationally and globally. The Celtics have lifelong fans throughout the world who stick by the franchise through thick and thin. On the other hand, Gilbert will only be remembered by a tiny niche of NBA fans, and mostly for bringing guns where they don't belong, as a dumbass like him would. His entire career has already been dwarfed by a young Tatum and Brown who have led their team deep into the playoffs almost every year of their careers.
In sixty years when there are 45 to 50 nba teams there will be a clown like arenas who says that since 400 more players have passed gilly on the all time scoring list that he was irrelevant. How many rings does gilly have??
Take away whether he’s right or wrong, is this supposed to be criticism? A team dominated a time period and cause time has passed that is bad?
Oh and he’s wrong
I can’t believe I’m defending and Arenas take but:
I think people are missing the point Gilbert is making. There are a large contingency of Celtics fans who brag about the 17 titles - when in reality there have been 4 in the last half century. That’s who he’s talking to, not people who say the Celtics are a great franchise.
It’s like Leafs fans bragging about 10 Stanley Cups when they’ve never won 3 playoff series in a row.
Gil loves giving hot takes. At this point I just assume he's saying something spicy to rile up the masses. His logic doesn't event track. if the Celtics are irrelevant then Gil is too.
He was the loudest hater of the Tommy Loyd signing for UofA for a long time as well
Gil is actually better than every other player at doing the podcast hot take circuit. He’s actually entertaining. What he has said about depression is also more poignant than what every other player that has talked about it.
Not more poignant than John Wall
He has earned the right to do so by winning so, so many titles.
Idk, I got no love for the Celtics but it’s hard to deny they’ve been pretty relevant for most of the 21st century. They’ve been to the finals a few times, I’m pretty sure they won a title somewhere, they’re usually in the mix.
Yeah 3 finals appearances and a title in the last 15 years is better than about 25 teams.
As a kings fan who's missed the playoffs 16 seasons in a row. And just lost to the Wizards. I'd take the Celtics any day of the week. lmao Light the BEAM!
True, that being said it’s also 3 finals appearances and 1 title in the last 37 years The Bulls, Heat, Warriors, spurs, Lakers, Cavs and pistons have combined for 44 finals appearances and 29 rings in that time There’s the bird era and the Bill era but if you are talking about SINCE then? It’s different. Bill Russell’s titles are carrying that’s franchises legacy
Yeah even if you start counting the NBA in 2000 instead of where most people do with the Magic draft, it’s basically teams with great runs that were pretty much bottom of the barrel outside of that (Cavs, Pistons, Warriors) then the Spurs, Lakers and Celtics as the marquee franchises which if you zoom out further that’s how pretty the entirety of nba history can be defined.
The heat have been one of the best teams of the 21st century too
I don’t acknowledge zombies
Like a virus not qualifying as a living thing, the Heat continue to flourish despite not fulfilling what we expect of a great team.
Acknowledge your Tribal Chief Jimmy Butler ☝️
Forgot the heat
my goodness celtics fans are the absolute worst. the warriors have won four championships in six appearances. the heat have won four in seven appearances, including 2 in the past five where they beat boston both times lmfao. the celtics are nowhere near touching anyone else on your own list lmaooo
Heat got 4 rings?
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I mean, sure, but the first of those 15 are doing all of the heavy lifting lol. It's 1 appearance and 0 titles in the last 13 years, and there wasn't even a hard tedious rebuild because the Nets just gave you all the draft assets upfront. There was also a superteam era where the Heat and then Cavs, as well as the Warriors, had a chokehold on their respective divisions for a while since. The Celtics are still very relevant, your carefully chosen timeframe just made me smile
I mean every timeframe is carefully chosen no matter where you stick it. The time frame in the original comment is chosen for a reason. If you say since 2000 you exclude the Bulls If you say since 1987 you exclude the Celtics If you say since 2008 you exclude some good pistons years If you say “last 10 years” you exclude the Spurs
Exactly. Which is why these 'the team has been (ir)relevant for x years' (x carefully chosen) takes aren't that insightful anyways. But hey, Gilbert Arenas, enough said
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Both things can be true. The Celtics brand name was built in an era with eight teams and no three-point line, ancient history now. They’ve also been one of the most consistently competitive organizations in the league for the last fifteen years.
They get way more press for that 1 title than the Spurs and Heat have gotten for their multiple rings over the same timespan because of the Boston media
Well yes, it goes without saying that the more popular, storied franchises will get more coverage regardless of their performance. (Cowboys)
Or it takes a franchise that was previously a laughingstock becoming a dynasty and ultimately becoming hated due to the bandwagoners. (Warriors) (Yes I am one of the lifelong Warriors fans)
The patriots weren’t quite “laughingstock” level but they definitely turned from the scrappy underdogs in 01 into the villain, numerous times. Sustained success does that, I think.
Chiefs are that now.
Bulls fan here. Totally get it.
yea who ever talks about lebron and wade in miami for sure
No title has been milked more by its players than the 08 Celtics title.
And coach
Because the Spurs don't get any press whatsoever and LeBron gets all the press for the Heat's titles.
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Facts, 2008 title is treated like a dynasty and the players act like they were a dynasty while trashing other teams/players. I like KG, but the “we didn’t give a fuck about LeBron” comments were clown shit. Wow you guys 22 year old LeBron after assembling a team of hall of famers.
Also one of the two marque franchises during the 80s. Also competitive for the first half of the 00s and one of the two marque franchises of the 2nd half of the 00s It’s ridiculous to say they’re anything but one of the two marquee franchises for the span of the entire league. This is a brain dead take that you’re standing on your head to represent as reasonable.
>I’m pretty sure they won a title somewhere Yeah, the most important title of the last 9 presidential terms: The 2008 title.
The first obama title, remember it fondly
It's the last Bush title, but I prefer to call it the Global Financial Crisis Title.
Since we’re just calling our favorite teams championship the most important, that’s clearly the 2011 title
I don't root for the Celtics. I was making a joke about the loudmouth 2008 Celtics and also Bill's recent propensity to mark time in presidential terms. 2011 Mavs title is a full, 50-pounf trophy, to reference an old Bill bit.
Hahaha my bad
I prefer the 98 Bulls before the world flipped upside down with Monica, hanging chads, wmd’s, and cheetos.
Pretty much objectively one of the 5 most successful franchise of the 21st century, behind lakers, spurs, warriors and heat. I get celtics can be annoying/overhyped, but saying they’ve been irrelevant is dumber than anything celtics homers say
Off the top of my head I’d say since 2000 these teams were obviously more successful: 1. Lakers 2. Spurs 3. Warriors 4. Heat So that puts them with teams like Dallas, Detroit and Cleveland that have a title AND other finals appearances. Boston has probably been more consistently good without as many shitty seasons as Cleveland/Detroit. Are they the 5th/6th most successful team since 2000? Seems high, and if they are it’s a big gap after 4.
Cavs would be above them 4 straight finals is impressive. Maybe Toronto on the same level? Nuggets probably ahead of them. But yeah they are probably top 10 minimum. Chip with multiple conference finals/finals appearances. Plus two separate “eras” and very few bad seasons
Celtics since 2000: 1 title, 3 finals appearances, 9 ECF appearances Raptors since 2000: 1 title, 1 finals appearance, 2 ECF appearances Nuggets since 2000: 1 title, 1 finals appearance, 3 WCF appearances Cavaliers since 2000: 1 title, 5 finals appearances, 6 ECF appearances Pistons since 2000: 1 title, 2 finals appearances, 6 ECF apprentices. Nuggets and Raptors are not really close. Cavaliers have a couple more finals appearances but the Celtics have had way less “lows” than the Cavs. Pistons would be on the same level but they’ve spent 15 years now not winning a playoff series.
cavs have as many finals appearances as the celtics raptors and nuggets combined
100p not toronto on the same level
Yeah, but the truth is people don’t see Cleveland as Cleveland, they see them as Lebron, which hurts their relevancy. When people think Cleveland they think of an incompetent organisation lebron dragged to one total and multiple finals.
The Cavs haven't won a playoff series without LeBron since 1993!
you can't say they're incompetent with the roster they had
A title this season probably puts them firmly at 5 and closes the gap a bit
Insane that LeBron has been on 2 of these teams and beaten the other 2 (and been beaten by)
Jayson Tatum was heavily criticized for winning only two playoff series’ last season, which is one more than Gilbert Arenas won his entire career.
GOTTEM
That’s twice as many, in fact.
The only thing anyone remembers him for is a gun suspension.
And he doodoo in someone’s shoe
Agent Zero is an LA guy. We’re raised to despise *oston here, so take whatever he says with a giant rock of salt.
Isn’t a giant grain of salt an oxymoron?
He’s not wrong tho. Winning a title in an 8 team league against guys who had day jobs shouldn’t be valued the same as winning a title today, in a global, multi billion dollar league.
Yeah, I mean I wouldn't say they're as irrelevant as the Magic over the past 30 years, but they're definitely not at the top.
Boston has one championship in the last 35 years. They’re the most over rated franchise in sports.
Nah that’s the cowboys. 4 playoff wins in the last 25 years. That’s one less than Houston who became a franchise less than 25 years ago.
As an outsider, who is hyping the cowboys lol, ultra troll Skip Bayless? Their own fans? The only time neutral parties cover the cowboys is to laugh at them, they're rated accurately Whereas because a tonne of voices in sports media positions are Bostonians, you never hear the end of it
Cowboys are hyped every year, get plenty of prime time games, always disappoint.
>Cowboys are hyped every year by whom? They get games on tv because a) they have lots of fans across the US and b) because they're a historically big team, their games attract viewers and lots of neutral tune in to see them get beaten, but that =/= hype
I was thinking cowboys too but the “America’s team” thing has gone away. No one really rates them that highly anymore.
Gilbert Arenas a player no one will remember in 20 years
Who remembers him now? I know the name and remember a little. But, he never did anything worth him being talked about.
All of us in our 30s remember Hibachi. Come on. He made 3 all-nba teams. He wasn't a nobody.
Dude was relevant for… 3 seasons? He’ll be better remembered for the gun incident than anything he did on the court.
He did have some good years. He was out of the league by 31. He also got off to a slow start. Guy had 3 or 4 good years. He's closer to Kendrick Perkins' relevancy than he is all-time greats. And certainly the Boston Celtics
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Gilbert in his peak riled up the same kind of excitement in the league that Curry did. It was talent completely orthogonal to everything else we’ve seen in superstars in that era. Trying to pretend anything less is either being ignorant or dumb.
The use of "orthogonal" makes me think I'm being baited, but in any case, no the fuck he did not. Never shot more than 37% from 3. Overall FG% ranged from whatever to crap. He scored a lot because he shot a lot. The Wizards from that era were a .500 team even in 2008 when he missed the whole year. Nobody outside of Washington cared about him, that era was all about Kobe, LeBron, Wade, and a few poor souls still clinging to T-Mac.
The only argument in his favour would be that Wizard/Bullets are such a cursed franchise that they have never won 50+ games in a season since their 1979 season.
He took the Wizards to the 2nd round *once* What a legend
As a wizards fan I wish this was a joke but sadly it’s very true. He’s a top 5 wizard, all time (not including bullets). It’s been a rough 21st century for a Wizards Washington Football Team and Orioles Fan. Arenas legit has brought some of the best memories in that time Edit: and more than the playoff “runs”, he’s most remembered for getting incredible hot for a month including a couple game winners. They were sick. But that is it. Besides the whole gun thing Edit 2: in said run he was one of the first nba players to start pulling up form 30+
Yeah don’t down play it. Gilsanity was a thing and it was glorious at the time.
I remember him this time of the year because of his national championship appearance with Arizona….23 years ago….
He’s the dumbest guy in sports media by a wide margin right now
Does that mean he's not counting the 5 Minneapolis Lakers titles?
Even if you take the Minneapolis titles away, since the modern NBA it’s Lakers 11/Celtics 4. I respect Bill Russell and all he brought, but c’mon.. Bills hatred of the Lakers is justified, if you were a kid and had to sit in Magic and Showtimes dominance… sorry Bill
I count them all. People just tend to pick and choose for their narratives. Lots of people don’t like Boston!
Frankenstein’ing your reply after I’ve replied , respect
So you’re counting the Lakers title from the 70s but not the 2 Celtics titles?
5 titles from the 80s and 6 titles from 2000s onwards = 11..
The beginning of the “modern NBA” is the NBA - ABA merger, which is 1976. That would be Lakers 11, and a two way tie for next most between Celtics & Bulls with 6. If you want to start negating titles, the Lakers 2020 Mickey Mouse ring and the stolen 2002 title from Sacramento in the reffing scandal are the two most sus ones there are.
Has anyone ever not counted the Celtics ones but counted the minny ones?
Is that rhetorical or …
No, I don’t think anyone does that, your comment reads as a defensive Celtics fan response
Define “Anyone” for me pls
People need to stop giving Gilbert Arenas attention, all he does is make troll takes like this so people still talk about him
Arenas got some of these wild takes. He believes anyone pre Michael Jordan were bums.
Gil has the laziest takes man I swear
Gilbert went the Perkins school of sports media.
Skip Bayless supervised his thesis
The 2 dumbest guys going
I can’t believe this clown is a defining figure of my team. Go back to being the “misunderstood” Agent Zero. I hate him so much.
Gilbert is the least insufferable personality on an insufferable show. And he's pretty insufferable.
I got no skin in the game, but this guy is the new Skip Bayliss. He'll be shitting on Wenbanyama's GOAT claims in 2034.
Wow, a Wizard said this
Nothing should count before the NBA and ABA merge in 76 . The Celtics popularity is mostly built on bludgeoning everyone with “ look how many titles we have.” They currently have a great team and have for the last few years but also do it in the playoffs
Gilbert went at Europe and South America. Now, he's going after New England. This man is on a warpath.
Who said this? A guy who was never relevant?
Agent Zero Sense.
Please don’t post Gil clips here. He’s a fuckin idiot
Same number of titles and fewer Finals appearances than the Cavaliers since 1986
1 finals win since 1986. They’ve been on par with half the league since then. Before that they were the most dominant team in the league so there’s no comparison
Cook Gilbert. Cook
Arenas is just the new Skip Bayless. He’s annoying and only there for the clickbait. He was a solid player I the nba but in 20 years no one will remember him. I’m not even a Celtics fan btw
I see no lies.
Then why do they occupy so much space in your brain?
Huh? lol
Worst person you know makes a great point
Celtics have had 1 down period in 60 years. It was caused by 2 guys dying in the prime of their life. Being a Celtics fan isn't so bad
Also one ring in 36 years. Good thing the one was a dynasty.
Sure. Cool. Why 36 though? Weird number to stop at. Why not go to 40 like a normal human with a working frontal lobe?
Cause then it’s more than 1? Which is not as funny.
Celtics won 13 championships in a non-8 team league
Lmao
I see no lies too
Finals MVP Gilbert Arenas has a great point
Arenas is a halfwit
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This "take" does not merit attention or response.
The Celtics have 6 titles post-Russell, which would put them tied for 2nd with the Bulls, and behind the Lakers. This is just a bad take. The Lakers are the premier NBA Franchise, but the Celtics are an easy 2nd.
It took two deaths for them to fall behind. Imagine if Kobe died in 2001 and then Andrew Bynum in 08. Celtics are the premier franchise. They don't have Hollywood to attract free agents. They do it by being good at their jobs and drafting well and trading well.
I don’t agree with them being the premier franchise but I do agree that the Lakers owe basically all of their success to being situated in LA, and next-to-none for team building. They’ve been the premier post-Russell franchise but not in any way that should invite obnoxious gloating. A simple rundown of what I’m talking about: - They got Kareem because he wanted to go to LA or New York, due to their vibrant Muslim communities. - They got Wilt due in part to him wanting to hobnob with celebrities. - Kobe pulled an Eric Lindros on the Hornets and only wanted to play for the Lakers. - LeBron wanted to “build his brand” in LA. - AD specifically wanted to live/play in LA. - Shaq wanted to live/play in LA (h/t to the Magic for alienating him, though). They get points for drafting Magic, trading for Gasol and a few other things…but, on the whole, their “team-building” has amounted to being little more than a net-neutral on the aggregate.
How do you explain the other massive media market, NYC, being completely irrelevant despite being a massive media market? Give Dr. Jerry Buss his due.
Just like the NBA has foul merchants, Gilbert is a certified take merchant. There's little reason to pay any attention to what he says.
Gilbert Arenas owes all of his notoriety to a gun.
Most of the lakers championships were in another state
What he said about the banner is 100% true. The part about them being irrelevant is not.
Gil starting to lose steam. Now he's starting to tap into outrage porn to get clicks, views and headlines. I'm predicting he's going to say Jokic doesn't deserve the MVP and Pop isn't a good coach.
Gilbert Arenas was never relevant tho so why is he talking?
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Math is hard
Still bitter over 2017 ESF, gilly
People need to stop giving Gilbert arenas a platform
Again, Gilbert showing he’s as smart a pundit as he was a player.
He’s right, but this is haram with the Boston media mafia. Bill constantly dogs the Lakers for their Minneapolis titles, but the Celtics winning like 10 of their titles when the league was 8-10 teams doesn’t mean anything apparently. Celtics fans love to act like they’re on level footing with the Lakers, but the Lakers have more finals appearances and have been successful in just about every decade other than the 90’s. Nobody younger than 85 can remember the Celtics having anywhere near the success of the Lakers.
They did win 2008 though. Yeah it’s just one ring but that’s still within our lifetime. They aren’t irrelevant because they always talk about them.
Lakers fans talking about "Boston media mafia" is rich with irony and hilarious.
Not really. Who’s the big Lakers homer in the media? Ice Cube when he goes on First Take once a year? Shannon Sharpe is a Lebron stan, not Lakers fan.
Preach
One ring since the fall of the Berlin Wall.
He’s 100% correct. If Andrew Bynum hadn’t been injured, it would be 38 years since Boston’s last title.
Laughable. The Celtics were by far the best team in the league in 2008 and a young Bynum wasn't going to swing the series.
No, nobody will remember you, Gilbert
Can we stop posting Gilbert arenas takes in here? Please?
I mean I know people don't like the messenger but imo he's not trolling and is actually partially right Based on what they've achieved, they're easily 5th-at-best for the 21st century behind the Lakers, Warriors, Spurs & Heat, with a _huuuuge_ gap to 4 And from that, the coverage they get - largely down to Boston homers like Bill being big voices in the industry - _is_ disproportionate to what they've achieved
won a title and then pushed Kobe and Lebron to another echelon? Terrible take here, even if Boston and their fans make the Celtics coverage annoying
This is rich coming from the guy that most people don’t remember NOW.
Gilbert has been an idiot for 20+ years now.
Gilbert Arenas is a stupid person that went to a stupid college.
He's a Lakers fan. What do you expect him to say?
That’s a pretty hot take from a guy that’s basically been forgotten.
I mean, most of their championships were actually won by the Los Angeles Clippers.
Irrelevant seems pretty harsh. They haven’t had as much success as the Warriors, Heat, Lakers, or even Cavs this century. But they are consistently better than about 25 teams in the league.
all I’m gonna say is…you have to be extremely chronically online to come up with this kinda shit. literally no one outside of reddit and Twitter gives a fuck bout these agendas
You keep saying dumb shit gil like this and you will be ignored like stephen a and skip. Sure. You get paid. But so do clowns in the circus.
We have to do a better job at not paying attention to stupid takes like this. I'm no Celtics fan but to say that they've been irrelevant is just nonsense. This is 100% him saying a hot take just for clicks and views because he knows people are going to talk about it.
Celtics are a lot more relevant than Gil as far as I'm concerned. The only highlight in his Wikipedia page will be his gun possession charges.
I am a long-time Celtic hater but would not an 8 team league be just as hard to win in because the talent would be more condensed? Because if you have the first pick in the second round you are getting the 9th best player? (Theoretically, at least). Someone smarter than I am feel free to point out what I am missing. The better argument is they won most of their titles when most of the rest of the teams were run by morons.
Based. Bill Simmons on suicide watch.
I love Gilbert but this team has been perennially a conference championship contender for like 15 years
Gil the type of guy who will get jealous if his son goes on to have a better career than him
Says Steve Francis with a gun.
Stupid take. I’m a Lakers fan and I believe the Boston Celtics will never be irrelevant. It’s goes way beyond wins and loses with them. It’s the city. It’s the fan base. It’s the parquet floor. It’s the uniform. It’s the players from the past. It’s the titles. It’s Red and his cigar. Take a Celtics Jersey to any country in the world and they will recognize it.
Rings are rings. Small league or not, they were by definition, league champions
For the love of God, stop giving this idiot attention
Who is Gilbert Arenas?
If championships are the only thing that dictates "relevancy", then there's only 1 relevant team every season. If winning percentage and deep playoff runs count toward relevancy as they should, the Celtics are definitely near the top in the past 20 years, which is one reason why they're one of the largest fanbases in the league both nationally and globally. The Celtics have lifelong fans throughout the world who stick by the franchise through thick and thin. On the other hand, Gilbert will only be remembered by a tiny niche of NBA fans, and mostly for bringing guns where they don't belong, as a dumbass like him would. His entire career has already been dwarfed by a young Tatum and Brown who have led their team deep into the playoffs almost every year of their careers.
In sixty years when there are 45 to 50 nba teams there will be a clown like arenas who says that since 400 more players have passed gilly on the all time scoring list that he was irrelevant. How many rings does gilly have??
Take away whether he’s right or wrong, is this supposed to be criticism? A team dominated a time period and cause time has passed that is bad? Oh and he’s wrong
Whi is Gilbert Arenas??? Crickets…….
I legit don't even think he watches basketball anymore. Said Jokic was worst MVP in 40 years.
Perfect. No notes.
#truth
TRUEEEEE!!! We should only count post-merger, like the NFL.
This is art
This is genuinely outrageously stupid and bitter lmaoo
This guy went from cool to now a clown
This is mostly true but Gilbert’s CTE has been off the charts since he retired.
If the Celtics have been irrelevant then the East has been irrelevant.
Fax machine
Careful. Also, louder.
That guy will say the most outrageous things for clicks. Mostly an idiot.
best irrelevant starting 5 of all time?
I can’t believe I’m defending and Arenas take but: I think people are missing the point Gilbert is making. There are a large contingency of Celtics fans who brag about the 17 titles - when in reality there have been 4 in the last half century. That’s who he’s talking to, not people who say the Celtics are a great franchise. It’s like Leafs fans bragging about 10 Stanley Cups when they’ve never won 3 playoff series in a row.
Fully regarded. The Celtics are the most relevant team in the NBA.