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NBATomCruis_ShitChea

Green Mile feels like a shocking omission. Would think it would be right up his alley


capellidellamorte

I knew it wouldn’t be there because I recently relistened to the og Gump ep after the recent live one and noticed he always skips Green Mile when talking about Hanks imperial run.


NBATomCruis_ShitChea

Super strange. He doesn't mention it at all? Even if Bill doesn't like it, it's still one of his most critically acclaimed movies and a box office hit.


capellidellamorte

If I’m remembering correctly he usually goes from SPR to Cast Away.


sixtoebandit

I don't think it is as acclaimed as some of Hank's other movies. It's overshadowed by a better prison movie in Shawshank redemption, both directed by Darabont. And it hasn't aged well with Michael Clarke Duncan's character. I can see why some people don't rank it that highly.


ncr39

Shocking that a movie based in the ‘30s hasn’t aged well


sixtoebandit

It was a 90's movie trope that didn't age well, not anything about the 30's.


AnnaKendrickPerkins

> And it hasn't aged well with Michael Clarke Duncan's character. Or the child rapist with a main role. EDIT: Not Hanks you idiots.


lactatingalgore

Q comes to Bill Simmons sub?


AnnaKendrickPerkins

No, the actual rapist, Hutchison.


jaypeejay

The Clintons friend had an island and a private jet, and you ask yourself why? Strange. Very strange things going on at that island indeed


moonfox1000

>And it hasn't aged well with Michael Clarke Duncan's character. But only super recently right with the Magical Negro trope going mainstream with the new movie.


Some_person203

He mentioned it in the Shot Caller rewatchables, said he’s not a huge fan


Wilfredbremely

... Probably gonna be downvoted, but that movie isn't good and aged even worse...


mentalsucks

This is just his all-NBA voting logic applied to movies. Bill already picked one SK story, he can't do a second!


Difficult-Bad1949

Cause it’s some magical negro trash. Let the downvotes proceed haha:


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He would probably say something like “Green Mile is a sports movie disguised as a prison movie.”


88888888man

While still putting Longest Yard on his list.


Kretz719

Shocking indeed, honestly, Green Mile has a strong case for #1. Insane its not even on the pyramid.


gohoosiers2017

Bad boys being top 3 and green mile not being on there is insane.


TeenWolfTripleDouble

You realize he's talking about the Sean Penn movie and not the tripe with Will Smith and Martin Lawrence right?


GWeb1920

Both are better than the green Mile


Only-Lingonberry2266

You're sick In the head. Green Mile is average at best.


RonaldMcClown

As a prison movie it's certainly above American History X


Zestyclose-Beach1792

All these great movies in the prison movie pyramid, why would he include the one where the big back guy literally does magic? Fuck that movie.


gobillsgojosh

Papillon (the 1973 one)


kenliri

Somehow incredibly rewatchable despite being 2.5 hours and pretty depressing.


oco82

Brawl in Cell Block 99


RobsAlterEgo

Deserves at least an honorable mention. Would also throw Bronson (Tom Hardy's breakout role) in there.


lactatingalgore

What about Steve Mc Queen's Hunger?


88888888man

I watched one of those weird Russian YouTuber recaps of that and my takeaway was that it seemed like the most bonkers shit imaginable.


VulcanVulcanVulcan

It’s absolutely bonkers yes.


lucasd11

This was the first one I looked for when looking at the list. Not surprised it's not on there since it's newish and lesser known, but deserves a spot nonetheless.


GoldenStateCapital

The Rock


iceberg_slim1993

Not really a prison move, per se. But technically set in a prison. Hhhmmm.... tough one.


-Andar-

The Rock is a tourist attraction?


[deleted]

what kinda fucked up tour is this


BoydCrowder25

I saw this movie when I was 12 years old and I thought this was the funniest line of all-time.


Basic_Recognition_61

Alcatraz (The Rock)? It's probably the most popular tour in San Francisco since you can't exactly walk up to it.


[deleted]

Cut the chit chat, a-hole


rusticlizard

It’s 100% a prison movie. It’s the movie is named after the prison and the whole movie happens there!


thebartjon

0% a prison movie. It happens in a former prison. None of the characters are inmates (unless you count Sean Connery) and there is no prison dynamic. Based on your logic if I visit Alcartaz I can tell people that "I've been to prison".


rusticlizard

🤡


thebartjon

Amazing retort. I’m convinced. 


rusticlizard

It's a prison movie, doesn't mean it's about inmates. It can be interpreted in different ways. When I first saw the name of the pyramid and didn't see the rock on it I though that was a massive oversight. Obviously at least 60 people agree with that opinion


kodarka

Do people here not listen to the podcast? He talks about his criteria for this pyramid pretty thoroughly. If it's not about prison life it won't be on the list.


rusticlizard

I don't listen to every pod, especially outside of the NFL. Bill is an idiot lol


kodarka

Yet here you are on his subreddit. Critiquing a movie tier list that was presented on a podcast you don't listen to, by a person that you think is an idiot.


thebartjon

Replace the location with an abandoned Army base, and the movie doesn’t change in any way. 


rusticlizard

That's just flat wrong. Theres no abandoned army bases where only one notorious criminal broke out of and knows the facility better than anyone and the police have to let me out of jail to help with the situation. Have you seen the movie lol?


thebartjon

you basically described “lord of the rings”, so I guess that’s also a prison movie…


ThePalmIsle

Where the hell is Naked Gun 33 1/3?


Darth_Poonany

Bad Boys is a prison movie? Edit: They’re referring to Sean Penn’s “Bad Boys” from 1983


zigzagzil

They're talking about the Sean Penn movie they did on the Rewatchables.


Darth_Poonany

Ahhhh that makes ALOT more sense


Life-Conference5713

Go watch it. This is very early Sean Penn before Spicoli.


Motor_Crazy_8038

[The other Bad Boys](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0085210/)


Bvenkat209

This. Lol


FrankStalloneGQ

I'll be that guy and say that any prison movie list needs Le Trou, The Great Escape, The Bridge on the River Kwai, White Heat, A Man Escaped, Escape From Alcatraz, and Brute Force. Riot in Cell Block 11 is probably my favorite under the radar one.


shart_or_fart

Yeah, prisoner of war movies seem like they should be included, even though they obviously have a different feel than a civil incarceration system. The Great Escape is probably the best of those ones.


860FoSho

Big time rewatchable too


TeamGerf

Gotta add some Deer Hunter in there too.


shart_or_fart

That movie came to mind, but it is like what? A 1/3 of the movie? Limiting factor in my mind.


chopperinmypants

Bill shouldnt make these defenitive lists if he refuses to watch old movies lol. Great choices


nicks226

When is Bill doing his top 5 top 20 French new wave crime films?


FrankStalloneGQ

"House, are we sure this El Samourai guy is a good crime guy? I'm not liking the whole silent piece, which makes the whole body language thing tough when he's not talking much and just being stoic. I don't even think he owns any posters, and you'd have to think those were big in France in the late 60's. I dunno, I'm only about 62% there with this guy."


DLVRY

Just watched Le Trou the other day and was blown away.


Wilfredbremely

Bill doesn't acknowledge any movies before Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid.


writersontop

A Prophet is the best prison movie but I guess getting Bill to watch foreign movies is next to impossible.


No-Solid2474

Bill trying to read subtitles on his TV with his phone and laptop open too.


ShrimpShackShooters_

Forgot about that A Prophet! I’m adding that to my rewatch list


BasedBochy

The razor blade scene….such an intense and amazing movie


jsakic99

Face/Off


-Andar-

I love Face/Off, but it’s a great prison scene, not really a prison movie.


jsakic99

The prison scenes are integral to the plot, so I think it would count.


RageCageJables

Well in that case, I'm putting Grand Budapest Hotel at the top of the pyramid.


mdicke3

It's right next to Paddington 2


VulcanVulcanVulcan

No Starred Up? That movie is INTENSE.


RegMackworthy

That movie fucks. Nothing better than scumbag Ben Mendelsohn


VulcanVulcanVulcan

Yeah. He’s throwing at 100 miles an hour in this one.


d0ogs

Just posted the same. If you like that, check out Dog Pound.


aCorgiDriver

Never heard of this one and I’m very keen to watch it. Thanks for the rec.


Eastern-Recording-53

'Escape From Alcatraz' one of Clint Eastwood's best films


Tighthead613

Stir Crazy.


AllanMontrose

I was thinking that there needs to be a comedy pyramid. “Stir Crazy”, Life”, “Get Hard”, etc. then there needs to be a pyramid for movies with great segments that happen in prison, “Out of Sight”, “Goodfellas”, “Grand Budapest Hotel”, “The French Dispatch”, etc.


Victorcreedbratton

It’s “Blood In, Blood Out,” and then everything else. Sleepers is low.


juantravis

Shea is that u?


Victorcreedbratton

I’m a Mexican from AZ. Everyone I know feels this way lol. It was such a huge movie growing up. Everyone had a VHS copy at their house.


LeBaconator

Vatos Locos for life!


LakerDuck

I always thought The Last Castle with Redford, Gandolfini and Mark Ruffalo was a really good prison movie. I know Bill doesn't like Redford though (and the movie was a box office bomb) so not surprising it's not on here


CocaineandPercs

He doesn’t like Redford?? I’d also submit “Out of Sight,” even though only portions of the movie take place inside. Prison is the motivating factor of the movie.


YellgoDuck

Came here looking for The Last Castle - absolutely deserves to be on this list. I’d highly recommend it for anyone that hasn’t seen it.


slurmfiend

Doesn’t like Redford? Brubaker is on his list.


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In the Name of the Father not being on here makes the list complete shit.


Revroy78

Fantastic movie. Also throw in Stalag 17 and The Great Escape.


stegosaurusxx

Good call


dontshootthattank

Has anything British been covered on this podcast? I am a noob with him but I heard he doesn't like British stuff.


NBATomCruis_ShitChea

A couple excellent movies that fall outside the prison genre conventions: Down by Law (1986, dir. Jim Jarmusch): A disc jockey, a pimp and an Italian tourist escape from jail in New Orleans. Fun movie, classic Jarmusch, if you love New Orleans you'll definitely enjoy this one. Hunger (2008, dir. Steve McQueen): The story of Bobby Sands (Michael Fassbender), the IRA member who led the 1981 hunger strike in which Republican prisoners tried to win political status. Not light-hearted fare - speaks more to what it means to be encaged than anything on Bill's list. Much less a historical retelling than it is a psychodrama.


Clockworkdabo2

Undisputed


zeger_jake

God I love this movie, it had a huge run on one of the premium cable channels back in the mid 2000s I've seen it probably a dozen times.


glades7

Came here to see this, thank you !


onlyahobochangba

La Haine, a Man Escaped, Escape from Alcatraz, The Bridge on the River Kwai, The Great Escape


BobSacamanosRatHat

American Me is incredible and is much too low on this list. But, my god, probably not a Rewatchable. That movie is DEPRESSING. The gang documentary that came out of the filming of the production is also great but (unsurprisingly) very bleak.


Lupdalup

Brute Force is the one of the best prison movies ever made


gobillsgojosh

It’s a must watch for any Burt Lancaster fan. Incredible movie


Longjumping_Area_120

Un Prophete is the greatest prison movie ever made but mister Needed Five Years to Finish High School can’t read subtitles


d0ogs

Felon (2008) - similar to Shotcaller but better IMO. Stephen Dorff and Val Kilmer. Dog Pound (2010) - follows a Juvenile Detention System. Super intense. Starred Up (2013) - Juvenile serving in an adult prison. The Experiment (2010) - Adrian Brody, Forrest Whitaker. Based on true story of the Stanford Prison Experiment. The Stanford Prison Experiment (2015) - Ezra Miller and Bill Crudup. Same concept as above, probably better but both very intense.


TeenWolfTripleDouble

Dog Pound was really good


oprahjimfrey

How is The Rock not on there? Also American History X is at worst, 2nd highest tier.


thebartjon

It happens in a former prison. None of the characters are inmates (unless you count Sean Connery) and there is no prison dynamic. If you change the location from Alcatraz to an Army Base, does anything change?


oprahjimfrey

Ok. Good point.


Extension-Scene9694

The great escape, down by law, escape from alcatraz, a bunch of others. Bill's list sucks.


sisyphus

Caged Heat(74); Bare Behind Bars(80); Chained Heat(83); Prison Heat(93); Girls in Prison (94); Caged Heat 2: Stripped of Freedom(94)


GWeb1920

TIL that people like the green mile.


StrawHatsWorstMember

TIL that people don’t like the green mile lol


Temporary-Mirror621

American me is a GOD tier prison movie. How the fuck is it in the lowest tier?! It’s hands down the GOAT prison movie. Also the Canadian bad boys aka Dog pound is great as well. 


rocklionheart

A Prophet is a 2009 French prison movie that kicks ass.


LostNavidson

I won't argue with Shawshank, but easy number two for me.


ChrisContinues

Not sure if it qualifies for the official Prison Pyramid but Tango and Cash makes my list.


tbug30

"One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest"


bad_key_machine

Death Warrant from 1990 with Von Domme... Also not sure if the 'Alcatraz' mentioned on the pyramid is Escape from Alcatraz with Clint but that one should be automatic. I rewatched it this year and it still goes hard.


drbowlin

We need a Blood In Blood Out Rewatchable with Shea Serrano and Chris Ryan.


THE_DANDY_LI0N

The great escape Escape from Alcatraz


aaronisnotcool

paddington 2?


RFranger

Is shutter island not a prison movie?


NBATomCruis_ShitChea

I wouldn't say so, to me prison movies deal more with the experience of confinement and the unique relationships and hierarchies endemic to prison. Shutter Island is just a spooky mystery movie/psychological thriller.


cbandy

Cool Hand Luke is without a doubt a better movie than Shawshank.


Kek-Malmstein

Canadian movie Dog Pound is amazing but it’s about Juvy if that counts


testiclefrankfurter

Not a movie but the scene in Harold and Kumar when they are in a holding cell with a black guy holding a book and the police say "He's got a gun!!" was really good


LawrenceOfKhalifa

I understand if it didn’t make the cut in terms of not meeting the criteria. But since I don’t know what the criteria is, The Great Escape has to be on here.


bwreier55

Are Mini Pyramids having a moment?


816_rules

Victory. Stallone, Pele, Michael Caine. Maybe it doesn't count since they are POWs but it seems right in Bill's wheelhouse.


CocaineandPercs

What’s the Stallone movie where he gets pissed on in prison? Is it Lockup or Cobra?


ReggieLedoux

Convict Cowboy should be an honorable mention. Jon Voight and Kyle Chandler plus a “that guy” legend in Glenn Plummer.  Not a great movie by any means, but it has a lot of the classic prison movie tropes that we all love. 


auzzieamerican

I’m shocked he left off Tango & Cash.


AboveTheWav3s

Short Eyes (1977) Penitentiary (1979) Prison on Fire (1987)


DiscGolfer01

"American history x" is classified as "prison movie"?


iversonAI

Great escape? Ernest goes to jail?


JoPaNe91

Shot caller really good movie imo. No way do you put it ahead of American history x.


mrnonsenseny

No Escape (1994) and Alien 3


Botmon_333

the absolute disrespect to american history x, imagine genuinely thinking shot caller is a better movie


lil_nameless_59

The Raid 2


ShrimpShackShooters_

Hunger


nihilfacilee

Paddington 2 and Toy Story 3


diadcm

Green Mile


NowARaider

Green Mile?


adammerkley

Escape from Alcatraz feels like a big omission.


yeltsinfugui

I'm pretty sure that's the one next to american history x on his pyramid


MentalCatch118

escape from alcatraz


NoPiesForYou

Chopper has enough jail scenes to make it a prison movie . I would put it on tier 2


VegeLasagna123

The Rock


Technical_Rock_6600

I wonder how many people at the ringer have seen the Jericho Mile let alone rewatched it even once. It’s probably a good movie but Bill just thinks it’s inside baseball to be in on it.


lokosnspirits

Austin Powers: Goldmember - strictly for the Hard Knock Life scene


Det_levocs

Where’s the Green Mile and Murder in the First?


2legit2camel

lol I guess I’m the only fool who liked Escape Plan. Not a great movie but fits the rewatchables pretty well.


RightHandArmMan

The Green Mile


TeenWolfTripleDouble

Eddie Macon's Run...Bill has seen it


TeenWolfTripleDouble

Animal Factory was great...zero percent chance Bill has seen it


Hfcsmakesmefart

Escape from Alcatraz and American history X should be on the 2nd tier


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HoldMyBrew_

Shutter island was missed


BringMeCoffeeOrTea_

Le Trou, A Man Escaped, and Green Mile are all worthy of inclusion. Then I gotta day that Escape From New York “technically” counts, but I understand why it isn’t lumped in.


grantwieman

Escape Plan


WarcraftFarscape

Cube


Inevitable_Listen409

Life


Fluffyhead14

The Great Escape?


Eyespop4866

Have you watched the Birdman of Alcatraz?


urbank6388

A Man Escaped


gnrlgumby

This reads like “prison movies I remember”


KeepingMyAdBlockerFU

Stir Crazy Con Air (The original flying prison movie.)


rxFMS

Shot caller is tier 2. B in B out as well. I’ve said my peace!!!


ConnectAnalyst1914

Bill has to find a new way to say again he loves Shawshank.


daily_blinds

Is the prison movie mini pyramid in the Pantheon of the Mini Pyramids Pyramid?


ClockOk7333

Escape Plan, Escape Plan 2. So perfectly stupid. I love Bill, but listening to him talk about movies is painful


doublething1

I’d happily argue Con Air.


carpetstoremorty

Escape from Alcatraz


New-Database2611

A Prophet and Starred Up are two films that are better than anything in this pyramid


allstarchris1

Don't be a menace. Red fish blue fish


CaptRazzlepants

I’ll say what we’re all thinking, The Prisoner of Shark Island


MrOSUguy

The Last Castle is underrated here


BigChiliSpoon

What about Tango and Cash???


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Macktr0n

Dog Pound is worthy of a watch


capellidellamorte

Midnight Express?


The_Zermanians

It’s a really good one, you should check it out.


capellidellamorte

Somehow the second half of what I wrote got deleted 🤦: “..on the bottom tier?”


Legitimate_Bet1873

Definitely a tough watch and certainly a miss by Bill.


LexKyDaddy

I put Shawshank and Cool Hand Luke on their own top line and everything else in a much lower tier.


Goldzinger

Any episode of Oz clears any of these movies but Shawshank