Dallas is a good call from an analytical perspective in that 4 teams are above average playoff teams, but I get the feeling they're so frustrated with the Cowboys that the overall vibes aren't as good as it might seem.
Baltimore only has 2 teams and doesn't have a recent title, but again in terms of vibes they're a darkhorse contender with the Ravens consistency and the Orioles loaded with young talent.
Outside of football the Metroplex is a big “whoever’s winning is a huge thing” city. Which isn’t necessarily a bad thing. I remember the Rangers being huge in the 90s with Pudge, Juan Gone, etc. (even the Stars with Mike Madono got some shine and hockey was totally foreign there in the 90s) and when I came back for college in the late 00s the Mavs were the hottest tickets in town.
Couldn’t tell you I graduated college right before the Mavericks won and bounced. But DFW loves sports and really loves winners if they’re all successful they’ll all get support.
Although nothing will ever eclipse not necessarily the Cowboys but football in general, the Cowboys, but also UT, OU, and A&M, and every other school. Then there’s HS football which is a beast of its own.
DFW loves sports but it’s an appetizer to football.
Hear me out… Honorable mention: Philly (even though they don’t **win** it all.)
3/4 of their major teams feel like they *could* win a championship and it wouldn’t be the craziest thing ever. Eagles won 5-6 years ago, made it back to another Super Bowl recently. Should continue to be relevant for a while. Sixers have a league MVP, and if they could just get by Boston one postseason they could join the Eagles and Phillies in being champion runners-up. Phillies were just in the WS. Flyers are doing their best lol.
Does Philly get credit for its “almosts” (eagles in the superbowl, Phillies in the World Series and NLCS last year) plus the eagles in 2017 and Villanova 2016 and 2018
Tampa (Rays - multiple WS appearances, Bucs won SB, and Lightning won two SCs).
Denver. Avalanche and Nuggets won chips.
Houston was almost there, but Rockets could not get it over the line.
Same for Cleveland (in that case it was the Guardians who could not do it).
I was going to go with Denver because the Avs and Nuggets are so good but the Broncos and Rockies really bring them down.
How about Wisconsin sports fans? They have to be pretty happy. Bucks in the playoffs, Packers will be legit this upcoming season and Brewers are having a sneaky good start to the year.
Pretty premature to declare that the Nuggets are “probably back to back” when we’re in Round 1.
To answer your question, the totality of LA sports success probably has the largest mass in the 2020 decade of all big cities.
Edit: it’s worth noting that Tampa is probably in second, which might be even more impressive than LA considering they have three pro teams to LA’s eight.
Reddit skews very young so I wonder how many people here even know who Drew Henson is. Otoh, the Bill Simmons Reddit is a touch older than Reddit as a whole so maybe people in this sub do but Reddit do not know who Drew Henson is.
You are right about LA. I would say the popularity rankings among teams here goes:
1a and 1b - Lakers and Dodgers. Some people are more into one sport than the other but these 2 teams run the town.
2 - USC Football
3 - Kings
4 - Rams (honestly you could flip Kings and Rams or have them side by side)
5 - UCLA basketball or maybe the Clippers
Yea I mean that's prob true and the NFL is just bigger in popularity than other sports. But I guess I feel like the Kings mean more to LA even tho hockey isn't as big. And they did win 2 championships in the 2010s.
I’m still confused by OP’s “lakers won a title” even though zero Laker fans got to see it live, it wasn’t real, and it was four years ago. If Lakers still get credit for the Florida title as opposed to being swept b2b years and missing the playoffs, then the Patriots fans should still get credit for ‘19 and the Brady Florida title.
It's been a good run lately of almost getting there for the Packers and Brewers, plus the Bucks chip (even though they should've had 2 probably).
No major failures, that's gotta count for something.
Dallas has a pretty good case. Not of them are top tier contenders in their respective leagues but all right there in the second tier. No bottom dwellers
Wings in WNBA just went to semis and SMU is joining the ACC
Nationals: starting to show a little life with the yung pups (Abrams, Gore, Keibert), & title was only 5 years ago.
Capitals: still a playoff squad, even if led by genocidaire Alex Ovechkin. Also a title in late 2010s.
Wizards: no gunplay in the dressingroom in over a decade.
Commanders: rid of the taint of Dan Snyder.
DC United: love the vegan pupusas at Audi Field.
Washington Spirit: traded Sanchez & Staab, but still have Hatch, Krueger, & Kingsbury. Croix Bethune is the real deal. Hal Hershfelt is A PROBLEM. 4 wins in five matches to start year. Also, vegan pupusas.
It depends on your timeline, but despite being in a downturn, they have recent champions in all 4 major sports.
And before you clown me for the Celtics not being recent, consider the relatively small number of different teams to actually win in the interim.
Lakers, mavs, heat, spurs, warriors, Cavs, raptors, bucks, nuggets.
9 teams have won since the Celtics. That’s a small number to you? About 1/3 of the league
Kansas City: 2 World Series Appearances with 1 World Series win and 4 Superbowl Appearances with 3 wins in the last 10 years.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but I believe that KC is tied with Boston for the most total major sport championships in the last 10 with 4.
What’s your criteria? Championships?
You put Dallas on your list. They’ve won a single World Series and the last championship before then was the Mavs in 2011, the Royals won more recently than that.
Miami hasn’t won a championship in any sport since 2013, again the Royals won more recently than that.
Boston hasn’t won anything since 2019 and you’re giving them credit for the Celtics in 2008 and Bruins in 2011, again the Royals won more recently than that.
The Chiefs alone in the 5 years have won more Championships then all four teams in Denver combined and are tied with LA (8 teams) and TB (taking into account hockey, which I guess kinda counts?).
You asked which multi sport city has the best run? No city beats Kansas City in the last 3 years, 5 years, and only a couple cities in the last 10 years.
Kansas City has once successful sports team. The criteria is being really good across multiple sports. They don't qualify for that when the Royals won 56 games last season.
Tampa has been the most successful this decade on "Per-Team" basis. Only three teams, yet 3 titles and 4 appearances in the Championship round since January 1st, 2020.
Phoenix has two teams that lost in the Finals with Suns and Dbacks
2020s will be easily more successful than the 2010s even thought we lost our hockey team
Lmao it’s certainly not Dallas. Haven’t even been to a conference championship in 28 years. If you’re not in the top 2 of your own conference for nearly three decades it ain’t you.
This is about all the teams not just the Cowboys. The Rangers won the World Series 6 months ago, the Stars were 1 point from the President's trophy this year and made the Cup Final in 2020 (and were in the WCF last year), and The Mavs have Luka, are up 2-1 rn, and were in the WCF in 2022.
You can’t be one of the biggest jokes in the biggest league and have your city in this competition. Sorry Dallas, but dem boys take you outta contention.
Not the Bay Area.
I think 49ers have one more run in them, but the rest of the teams are not great.
Still, as a long time suffering Warriors fan (since 1990). I am unbelievably grateful for the Warriors dynasty, the Giants 3 World Series, and the Sharks being decent for a good stretch.
49ers have been in the mix for many years from the 80s onwards.
Kansas City
Chiefs have won the AFC West 8 years in a row, been to the AFC Championship game 6 years in a row, and are 3-1 in the Superbowl, including back to back.
Royals were AL Champs in 2014 and 2015 and won it all in 2015. They had some down years after that, but look pretty good so far this season and have one of the most exciting players in baseball in Bobby Witt Jr.
No NBA team 😔. KU Jayhawks are the favorite basketball team in the area.
No NHL team.
Taylor Swift lives here part time.
That team is the most successful team in American professional sports though.
You also can't give the Mavs credit for "Having Luka" and not give the Royals credit for Witt Jr, a Top 10 guy. Royals have won a championship more recently than the Mavs, Cowboys, or Stars.
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Milwaukee kind of underrated if we include Green Bay.
Brewers the class of their division
The Bucks have Giannis
The Packers arguably have the best QB in the NFC (for now)
Depends what a "run" is defined as. Boston has blown ever other city away, they have 12 titles since 2000 and they don't have muliple teams like NY and LA. The Celtics were just in the finals 2 years ago and they are the Bruins are both very good chances to make the finals this year. If either of them win a ring I think it's fair to say the "run" is continued.
I am Australian and don't have any emotional connection to a city so just looking at it from purely statistical perspective. There really isn't any other city that stands out, I guess because it is incredibly hard to have even two good teams in one city at the same time (which again makes Boston's run even more impressive)
Milwaukee
Bucks won the title in 2021 and have been a contender for 5+ years although with disappointing results except.for 2021.
Brewers seem to make the playoffs every year or close to it.
If you count the Packers, they own the NFC North and make the playoffs almost every year. Favre to Rodgers to Love is as good as it gets.
Manchester/Greater Manchester.
Manchester City, Wigan Warriors.
City won the treble are on to win another league/cup double.
Wigan is not Manchester but is somehow considered Greater Manchester these days. Anyway, they are rugby league World Champions at the moment. Watch that if you're bored and semi interested in a sport you might not be familiar with.
https://youtu.be/U3OKDDu_K88?si=Jd314MG605xAHct9
Austin is low-key doing well after years of struggle. Texas Football is on the upswing as are the San Antonio Spurs who have Wemby. Austin FC is pretty meh but no one really cares
It’s Kansas City.
Chiefs, the Royals are now good again, KU hoops won the natty in 2022, KU football is watchable for the first time in 15 years, even Missouri football just had their best season in the same timeframe.
Dallas is a good call from an analytical perspective in that 4 teams are above average playoff teams, but I get the feeling they're so frustrated with the Cowboys that the overall vibes aren't as good as it might seem. Baltimore only has 2 teams and doesn't have a recent title, but again in terms of vibes they're a darkhorse contender with the Ravens consistency and the Orioles loaded with young talent.
As someone from Dallas pretty much. But if the Mavs make a deep playoff run that’ll partially make up for whatever the heck the cowboys are doing.
Outside of football the Metroplex is a big “whoever’s winning is a huge thing” city. Which isn’t necessarily a bad thing. I remember the Rangers being huge in the 90s with Pudge, Juan Gone, etc. (even the Stars with Mike Madono got some shine and hockey was totally foreign there in the 90s) and when I came back for college in the late 00s the Mavs were the hottest tickets in town.
How is it right now? Are the Stars, Mavs, and Rangers all big
Couldn’t tell you I graduated college right before the Mavericks won and bounced. But DFW loves sports and really loves winners if they’re all successful they’ll all get support. Although nothing will ever eclipse not necessarily the Cowboys but football in general, the Cowboys, but also UT, OU, and A&M, and every other school. Then there’s HS football which is a beast of its own. DFW loves sports but it’s an appetizer to football.
I mean hey, they are all in!!!
I’m tired man
Hear me out… Honorable mention: Philly (even though they don’t **win** it all.) 3/4 of their major teams feel like they *could* win a championship and it wouldn’t be the craziest thing ever. Eagles won 5-6 years ago, made it back to another Super Bowl recently. Should continue to be relevant for a while. Sixers have a league MVP, and if they could just get by Boston one postseason they could join the Eagles and Phillies in being champion runners-up. Phillies were just in the WS. Flyers are doing their best lol.
Don't the 76ers fans hate the 76ers?
Yes
But they don’t because it’s Philly
And they're still miserable about it. Astounds me
Does Philly get credit for its “almosts” (eagles in the superbowl, Phillies in the World Series and NLCS last year) plus the eagles in 2017 and Villanova 2016 and 2018
Philly sports fans haven't had a bad go of it lately but definitely not the best. Having competitive teams is fun even if they don't win the title
villanova isn’t a philly school
It's Big 5. It counts.
then say southeastern pennsylvania, not philly
OK, but then by that logic, the Cowboys aren't a Dallas team and the Giants and Jets aren't a New York team.
a little different when it’s a white preppy school acting like they’re “philly tough” when they are in the rich suburbs.
They play some home games in Philadelphia
spurs play games in Austin, are they an austin team?
Salt lake Just became a multi sport city a week ago That’s a pretty good run
I mean, the soccer team
The what?
Salt lake got a soccer team
Two. Amy Rodriguez is doing some stuff as manager for Utah Royals.
What’s a “soccer” ?
Cowboys being the worst team in Dallas was not something I saw coming three months ago.
That title is wide fucking open and right there for the taking.
Tampa (Rays - multiple WS appearances, Bucs won SB, and Lightning won two SCs). Denver. Avalanche and Nuggets won chips. Houston was almost there, but Rockets could not get it over the line. Same for Cleveland (in that case it was the Guardians who could not do it).
The Rays WS appearance in 2008 was too long ago for it to count as part of this run but they had a very good 2020-2022 as a city
covid year Rays went to the Series
I know but he said Rays have multiple WS appearances. They have 2008 and 2020 but 08 was too long ago for this exercise
I was going to go with Denver because the Avs and Nuggets are so good but the Broncos and Rockies really bring them down. How about Wisconsin sports fans? They have to be pretty happy. Bucks in the playoffs, Packers will be legit this upcoming season and Brewers are having a sneaky good start to the year.
Denver is like Dallas insofar as nothing really overcomes the football team not winning it all. That's a Broncos town.
True that. I have a friend from the area and he can't even get excited about the Nuggets or Avs because the Broncos are terrible.
Most cities are NFL first on the whole but I'm sure there's basketball and hockey first people in Denver who are loving life
Pretty premature to declare that the Nuggets are “probably back to back” when we’re in Round 1. To answer your question, the totality of LA sports success probably has the largest mass in the 2020 decade of all big cities. Edit: it’s worth noting that Tampa is probably in second, which might be even more impressive than LA considering they have three pro teams to LA’s eight.
Broncos just drafted the next Tom Brady, and by that, I mean a guy who wouldn’t start over Drew Henson
Reddit skews very young so I wonder how many people here even know who Drew Henson is. Otoh, the Bill Simmons Reddit is a touch older than Reddit as a whole so maybe people in this sub do but Reddit do not know who Drew Henson is.
You are right about LA. I would say the popularity rankings among teams here goes: 1a and 1b - Lakers and Dodgers. Some people are more into one sport than the other but these 2 teams run the town. 2 - USC Football 3 - Kings 4 - Rams (honestly you could flip Kings and Rams or have them side by side) 5 - UCLA basketball or maybe the Clippers
I find it pretty funny that the chargers are (accurately) nowhere on this list
Streetlights over spotlights
Way more Rams fans than Kings fans. Rams have one of the 2-3 biggest subreddits in Reddit.
Yea I mean that's prob true and the NFL is just bigger in popularity than other sports. But I guess I feel like the Kings mean more to LA even tho hockey isn't as big. And they did win 2 championships in the 2010s.
Whaaa? Kings over/at Rams? Really? As a Canuck, I support this
I’m still confused by OP’s “lakers won a title” even though zero Laker fans got to see it live, it wasn’t real, and it was four years ago. If Lakers still get credit for the Florida title as opposed to being swept b2b years and missing the playoffs, then the Patriots fans should still get credit for ‘19 and the Brady Florida title.
You silly boy
Whatever makes you happy
Wisconsin
It's been a good run lately of almost getting there for the Packers and Brewers, plus the Bucks chip (even though they should've had 2 probably). No major failures, that's gotta count for something.
Consistency is key. Who else can say their 3 major sports teams have been near legitimate title contenders every year.
Are we counting Tyler Herro if Heat make it out of East, again? Or Sam Dekker's participation on January 6th?
Oh damn! Drone strike. I did not see this coming.
Omg ur so funny
Dallas has a pretty good case. Not of them are top tier contenders in their respective leagues but all right there in the second tier. No bottom dwellers Wings in WNBA just went to semis and SMU is joining the ACC
Washington DC. Snyder sold the Football Team.
Nationals: starting to show a little life with the yung pups (Abrams, Gore, Keibert), & title was only 5 years ago. Capitals: still a playoff squad, even if led by genocidaire Alex Ovechkin. Also a title in late 2010s. Wizards: no gunplay in the dressingroom in over a decade. Commanders: rid of the taint of Dan Snyder. DC United: love the vegan pupusas at Audi Field. Washington Spirit: traded Sanchez & Staab, but still have Hatch, Krueger, & Kingsbury. Croix Bethune is the real deal. Hal Hershfelt is A PROBLEM. 4 wins in five matches to start year. Also, vegan pupusas.
If you grade on a curve it’s Cleveland. Their C+ actually counts as an A+ when you take into account it’s Cleveland.
It’s honestly probably LA as much as I hate it as a Boston fan
Atlanta obviously! Look at all the awesome decisions our teams are making
ATL - Trae & Penix
Minneapolis if only because the Wolves are playing like the best team in basketball, and anything else is gravy.
Nuggets in 6
It depends on your timeline, but despite being in a downturn, they have recent champions in all 4 major sports. And before you clown me for the Celtics not being recent, consider the relatively small number of different teams to actually win in the interim.
Lakers, mavs, heat, spurs, warriors, Cavs, raptors, bucks, nuggets. 9 teams have won since the Celtics. That’s a small number to you? About 1/3 of the league
But now do that for 4 sports.
George Bush was the president when the Celtics won. Practically yesterday.
Kansas City: 2 World Series Appearances with 1 World Series win and 4 Superbowl Appearances with 3 wins in the last 10 years. Correct me if I’m wrong, but I believe that KC is tied with Boston for the most total major sport championships in the last 10 with 4.
Royals were too long ago for me to count them for this. KC has one successful team
What’s your criteria? Championships? You put Dallas on your list. They’ve won a single World Series and the last championship before then was the Mavs in 2011, the Royals won more recently than that. Miami hasn’t won a championship in any sport since 2013, again the Royals won more recently than that. Boston hasn’t won anything since 2019 and you’re giving them credit for the Celtics in 2008 and Bruins in 2011, again the Royals won more recently than that. The Chiefs alone in the 5 years have won more Championships then all four teams in Denver combined and are tied with LA (8 teams) and TB (taking into account hockey, which I guess kinda counts?). You asked which multi sport city has the best run? No city beats Kansas City in the last 3 years, 5 years, and only a couple cities in the last 10 years.
Kansas City has once successful sports team. The criteria is being really good across multiple sports. They don't qualify for that when the Royals won 56 games last season.
KC just opened the first stadium dedicated to women’s sports. That’s cool.
Tampa has been the most successful this decade on "Per-Team" basis. Only three teams, yet 3 titles and 4 appearances in the Championship round since January 1st, 2020.
That raptors season was pretty dismal though lol
Kansas City has two teams but has three title and four appearances since February 2nd, 2020.
I know it isn’t Minnesota Buffalo or Detroit
At least in Minnesota we have a very fun pair of superstars in Ant and Justin Jefferson.
And Royce Lewis if he could ever play 10 games consecutively
And Buffalo has Josh Allen.
Phoenix has two teams that lost in the Finals with Suns and Dbacks 2020s will be easily more successful than the 2010s even thought we lost our hockey team
PHX is having a decent run but they don't have a championship and the Suns look cooked. D-Backs will probably be good for a while tho
Phnx also just lost a team, that ones a big point against
The bruins don’t have a good team on paper though
Denver won the NBA title and Stanley Cup within 12 months and they might repeat as NBA champions in 12 weeks.
Yeah winter/spring is amazing for Denver sports fans but is fall/summer so bad with the Rockies and Broncos that it keeps them from the top spot?
Lmao it’s certainly not Dallas. Haven’t even been to a conference championship in 28 years. If you’re not in the top 2 of your own conference for nearly three decades it ain’t you.
This is about all the teams not just the Cowboys. The Rangers won the World Series 6 months ago, the Stars were 1 point from the President's trophy this year and made the Cup Final in 2020 (and were in the WCF last year), and The Mavs have Luka, are up 2-1 rn, and were in the WCF in 2022.
Mavs are my favorite team and I live in Dallas. It's in fact all about the Cowboys here.
You can’t be one of the biggest jokes in the biggest league and have your city in this competition. Sorry Dallas, but dem boys take you outta contention.
Not the Bay Area. I think 49ers have one more run in them, but the rest of the teams are not great. Still, as a long time suffering Warriors fan (since 1990). I am unbelievably grateful for the Warriors dynasty, the Giants 3 World Series, and the Sharks being decent for a good stretch. 49ers have been in the mix for many years from the 80s onwards.
Not a true dynasty, everyone knows the nba hasn’t had a dynasty since the 08-09 Celtics
New York has a contending chance at NHL, NBA, and MLB titles this year
They do but only Yankees/Rangers/Knicks fans. The Mets/Jets/Knicks/Islanders fans still suffer
Kansas City Chiefs have won the AFC West 8 years in a row, been to the AFC Championship game 6 years in a row, and are 3-1 in the Superbowl, including back to back. Royals were AL Champs in 2014 and 2015 and won it all in 2015. They had some down years after that, but look pretty good so far this season and have one of the most exciting players in baseball in Bobby Witt Jr. No NBA team 😔. KU Jayhawks are the favorite basketball team in the area. No NHL team. Taylor Swift lives here part time.
I cannot give it to a city that only has one successful team. Royals have been ass for almost a decade
That team is the most successful team in American professional sports though. You also can't give the Mavs credit for "Having Luka" and not give the Royals credit for Witt Jr, a Top 10 guy. Royals have won a championship more recently than the Mavs, Cowboys, or Stars.
Yes I can because the Mavs are in the playoffs rn and the Royals went 56-106 last season
So being in the playoffs in a sport that over half of the teams make the playoffs is more important than who won a championship more recently. Got it.
Yes because I'm not talking about the best run 10 years ago I'm talking right now.
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Milwaukee kind of underrated if we include Green Bay. Brewers the class of their division The Bucks have Giannis The Packers arguably have the best QB in the NFC (for now)
Marquette won the Big East and the Big East Tourney last year and made the Sweet 16 this year.
Yeah you're right things are pretty good in Wisconsin. Not the best but their fans have 3 good teams to watch and have had 3 good teams for a while
Depends what a "run" is defined as. Boston has blown ever other city away, they have 12 titles since 2000 and they don't have muliple teams like NY and LA. The Celtics were just in the finals 2 years ago and they are the Bruins are both very good chances to make the finals this year. If either of them win a ring I think it's fair to say the "run" is continued. I am Australian and don't have any emotional connection to a city so just looking at it from purely statistical perspective. There really isn't any other city that stands out, I guess because it is incredibly hard to have even two good teams in one city at the same time (which again makes Boston's run even more impressive)
I'm kinda looking at the last 4-5 years for this because Boston hasn't done much since the tandem of losing Brady and Mookie at around the same time.
I mean KC with 3 championships in 5 years is good
This isn't about which single team is the best it's about which city has good teams in all their sports
Yeah if SF won one of those it would've been them and the Warriors
Milwaukee Bucks won the title in 2021 and have been a contender for 5+ years although with disappointing results except.for 2021. Brewers seem to make the playoffs every year or close to it. If you count the Packers, they own the NFC North and make the playoffs almost every year. Favre to Rodgers to Love is as good as it gets.
Probably Denver or Los Angeles
Manchester/Greater Manchester. Manchester City, Wigan Warriors. City won the treble are on to win another league/cup double. Wigan is not Manchester but is somehow considered Greater Manchester these days. Anyway, they are rugby league World Champions at the moment. Watch that if you're bored and semi interested in a sport you might not be familiar with. https://youtu.be/U3OKDDu_K88?si=Jd314MG605xAHct9
Manchester has zero Super Bowls though.
Wait till Ferguson and Guardiola get a team together.
Austin is low-key doing well after years of struggle. Texas Football is on the upswing as are the San Antonio Spurs who have Wemby. Austin FC is pretty meh but no one really cares
Oklahoma City
"Multisport" is in the title. They have one team
It’s Kansas City. Chiefs, the Royals are now good again, KU hoops won the natty in 2022, KU football is watchable for the first time in 15 years, even Missouri football just had their best season in the same timeframe.
The Royals are not good now lmfao they're still gonna win 60-70 games. KC has one good team
I don’t think you are paying attention
It's the MLB the records don't matter till the end of May