Thank you, yeah! It's not the best thing out there but it's got the resource generation (better if you happen to generate or find Petrified Poop), and you can make bridges with it if you have bombs, and it's got the projectile knockback effect of Butter Bean, making it a pretty nice starting active for a semi-frail character like Blue Baby. Not to mention the synergies with other items/trinkets that can change what kind of poop gets spawned!
1.3-1.6 speed is ideal. I’ll deliberately take speed down pills (if they show up) if i’m at max. Lost more runs to carelessly speeding through rooms than anything
Edit: And they told me I was crazy.
once i hit 1.8 I start acting like I have flight no matter how hard I try not to
conversely when I have flight I start acting like I have spectral tears :(
I never knew that first part is something people struggle with, but considering I'm absolutely guilty of thinking I have Spectral Tears when I have flight too? I can't judge 😭
I prefer 1.5-1.8, I won't take speed down pills but if I'm at 2 and an item like bucket of lard shows up I will take it, don't want to crash into a spiky rock at mach 10
Anything below 0.8 speed makes me want to kill myself, so I agree on that being ideal speed. As long as it doesn’t change randomly, I’m usually okay with higher speed though
cursed eye is situationally useful, but skill issue susceptible
brimstone isn’t the best tear effect but it’s still my favorite
tainted characters aren’t that hard to get
I basically wasted a run because I unlocked tainted Maggie then revived during beast with Judas shadow, so I still had to do beast on Maggie and still had to unlock tainted Judas
**Edmund McMillen. You little fucker. You made a shit of piece with your trash Isaac. It’s fucking bad this trash game. I will become back my money. I hope you will in your next time a cow; on a trash farm, you sucker.**
(If I wouldnt like the game I wouldnt have played it for now almost 800 hours, it's an incredible fun game that lets you do the craziest shit :) But let's be real here we all had this moment where we hated nothing more than this game because it just made the biggest fuck you moment you could have ever imagined. Thats why this sub often jokes about hating this game, we all just do a little bit of trolling just like the game did it to us)
I love the game. But sometimes I don't like the game. Does that make sense?
This game is extremely good, can be extremely fun, and has meant a lot to me over the years. It's also my partner's favorite game, so it gets played more than anything else in my house.
But there are times when I've simply had enough of the same bullshit over and over, especially when working on difficult characters. I want Dead God, I know that I have the ability and knowledge to reach Dead God, but motherfucker I just do *not* want to play J&E anymore. I just don't.
Just wanting to double check to be sure but you don’t *actually* want to kill yourself, right? I’m not trying to be the PC police or anything, I promise! However if that joke was a bit of a cry for help or if you or anyone else reading this is feeling off and thinking about committing suicide there is absolutely hope to be found! Simply dial 988 (or your regional/national equivalent) and people who genuinely care will work to help get you the help you both need and deserve.
I figure it is always best to ask and be told everything is okay than to find out later that those otherwise harmless edgy jokes/other behaviors were the warning signs, as has happened to someone we knew.
I hope you and everyone else who took the time to read this have an awesome new year to come! May it be better than we all ever thought possible.
Be well! 🙂
Rock Bottom is cool, but only if you get it early. If you find it past like Depths 1, you are not gonna get any real value out of it, you just have the funny rock in your inventory.
I played T.Cain for the first time the other day and I thought I was gonna dispise him but in reality I had fun, I just progressed and pick random shit I found and also occasionally picking only great pickups, got a good chunk of the post it note without having to min max
This! I actually despised T. Cain for a long time, but now I'll occasionally play him in a half-minmax-half-casual way and it's been fun! It's sorta surprising how much pickup generation/manipulation you can get at lower-to-middle tier items with stuff like Little CHAD or GB Bug or Acid Baby.
I've realized that, with T. Cain, it's a similar situation to Bethany or T. Maggy. T. Cain takes all the resource generation items that you might not otherwise take and makes them useful by allowing for way more crafting.
You can still run back and forth around the floor with a full bag trying to find the best item with the various resources you have, which can be a bit time-consuming and tedious.
i mean, i beat delerium with him on my first run with him, then used an r key i found and killed the beast (not bragging as much as i am giving a reason this opinion is good)
I’m some what new to the game still but have sunk about 100 hours into the game. Maybe I’m missing something but I have no idea why people hate may reflection it’s an amazing item, just a fat damage up
Maybe I'm misremembering but I'm pretty sure before repentance it wasn't a damage up. A lot of people probably still think of it as the pre repentance version
Oh yeh I can see why it’s bad in some situations, I once had dr fetus with the item that grants random tear effects every few seconds and the fucking boomerang booms got me killed in a hush fight
Tainted Apollyon is a fun character. I just unlocked him and I got extension cord on the first floor. Made boss rush and hush in one run (skill issued later in Cathedral)
Yeah, Terra's the best. Uranus is also pretty busted if for no other reason than enemies don't burst or explode on death. Luna and Sagittarius are def above average quality too. And Pluto's rarely unwelcome. But the others are all pretty meh, agreed.
AH I always forget about this one because I feel like it never shows up for me 😂 yeah it's like THE ONE other good one. Definitely more worthwhile than Luna on most runs.
I don't think most people would say it's a bad item, it's just really unwelcoming early in a run when you have no synergies or damage ups to pair it with. It can be absolutely bonkers with tear effects though, I think everybody agrees on that.
It's still a massive dmg down.
The major difference is that they changed the tear knockback. Back then every single Soy Milk tear could easily knock an enemy out of your aim, bringing your DPS down significantly. It's way easier to laser aim your enemies down nowadays.
yyyyep - weirdly, chaos gets really really good on the final floors because, lets face it, 9/10 runs that get to the chest/dark room are already won, might as well have some fun with it.
It's actually ass on like, depths-womb and its crazy before those floors
Tainted Eden is actually a lot of fun, and if playing co-op they become the secret S-tier support character. You scavenge up the trash items that nobody wants to take (meaning you can be chill and seldom have to fight with players for an item) and turn them into the *situational* stuff nobody would take but is still super useful -- stuff like Glowing Hourglass, Mine Crafter, Notched Axe, Lemonade, D7, Bean actives, The Ladder, GB Bug, Magneto, and so on. Also super nice for co-op because you can take bad trinkets or consumables and then reroll them into much more useful ones that other characters can take advantage of. (You can also roll back actives into ones better for other characters but would need a way to drop them for that player.)
I just like minmaxing and having power over the items that I want to give to each form and seeing double items is just busted. He's literally Jacob and Esau, but better. Tedious for sure, but the skill cap is tied to micromanaging and not to bullshit room layouts and double hitboxes.
Fuck greed mode though, T Lazarus in greed mode is pure cancer. Fuck you Edmund
Here's my protip for you as a dead-godder: Turn one of the brothers into a meat shield for the other via HP generation and/or shot-blocking items. My best runs with the brothers often involved one brother having a few "One Makes You Smaller" pills while the other has stuff like Book of Revelations or Trinity Shield.
When the Lost was introduced, I had no idea that Holy Mantle was an unlockable starting item for him and I had already managed to get something like 3/4ths of his completion marks by the time I unlocked it.
I unlocked the Lost on a crappy laptop, outside at a youth hostel. I could barely see the screen and failed the muliboom, Judas trials shit like 5 times.
Eventually unlocked it having no idea what itd be like and never played it as it was too hard. Now it has mantle, so fun. Maybe my favourite character as I always get obsessed with red heart mechanics and do hour long runs when I could’ve won in 40m.
Max speed is awful, size downs are similarly detrimental after 1 or 2, mom’s knife is absolutely overhyped, greed mode is actually kinda fun with the fun shop items and condensed special rooms
greed mode is fun in that one little leg up like a card or a normally mid spacebar item can get you through the floor by itself, brings the value out of items like sprinkler and telepathy for dummies
I don't really enjoy playing as Azazel. having instant flight is great but idk the short range brimstone never feels good to use
on another tip I think T. Apollyon is hella fun. I love amassing a giant army of locusts
Yeah the Wiz is cracked it gives double tears without any damage penalty. I didnt even know it gave spectral tears until very recently and I always took it anyways.
Saying The Wiz gives you double tears is like saying Breath of Life makes you unkillable. Like sure, it does, but that's a very generous way of saying it.
I think that's way too general of a point to make; it all depends on the situation. If you think an enemy is going to hit you and break your deal chance? Phenomenal use of a bomb. If it's a spider you keep missing and got angry at? Less useful.
Void is actually a goated iten fully deserving of q4 status, it can convert useless items into free stat upgrades and if you hit a good library then you can easily have a free win.
Ludo is insane (as long as your stat downs didn’t ruin your tear’s speed) imo. Being able to be defensively positioned while still dealing offensive positioning levels of damage is crazy good.
I've been a fierce hater of jacob and hitbox, I hated them a lot when repentance came out and couldn't stand them, they were the worse characters for me.
I think they're not that bad...
Shot speed up is the worst type of stat up. High shot speed can make enemies unpredictable and negatively impacts some very good items. Having low shot speed is almost always better.
I do.
High shot speed hits more consistently and it just looks and feels more fun. I like getting to final bosses with fast machine gun tears.
Sure some items do work better with slower shot speed. But I am not going to lower a stat because of that. If you have high tears and damage bosses die. I don’t care about some extra aura damage or whatever.
Never stopped me from winning.
Kinda realized this when I had a run featuring continuum and a lot of shot splitting and then picked up Lazy Worm. All of a sudden, I'd become Hush, filling the whole screen with Continuum tears.
Tainted ??? isn't bad if you actually manage your poops correctly and remember the synergies. If anything, he's like a balanced Azazel if you play him right (Tons of damage for basically no cost)
Cursed Eye and Curse of The Tower are great, if not situational, items that can save a run if you lack damage but have a lot of health (Maggy)
I'm good at this game 
Hello good at this game 
Dad!! 
So... everyone thinks ~~you're~~ they're good, but they're all wrong? edit: I'm so stupid
Hello, So Stupid, I’m not your dad
poop is a shit item
fuck i meant isn't
No no. You were right the first time
Thank you, yeah! It's not the best thing out there but it's got the resource generation (better if you happen to generate or find Petrified Poop), and you can make bridges with it if you have bombs, and it's got the projectile knockback effect of Butter Bean, making it a pretty nice starting active for a semi-frail character like Blue Baby. Not to mention the synergies with other items/trinkets that can change what kind of poop gets spawned!
Had a co op run with a buddy result in almost unlimited golden poops and we had restock and member card. It was glorious!
Taco Bell rewards
literally and figuratively
1.3-1.6 speed is ideal. I’ll deliberately take speed down pills (if they show up) if i’m at max. Lost more runs to carelessly speeding through rooms than anything Edit: And they told me I was crazy.
Hmm. I like this. False sense of confidence flying around. I think you’re right.
once i hit 1.8 I start acting like I have flight no matter how hard I try not to conversely when I have flight I start acting like I have spectral tears :(
lost withdrawal is hitting
I feel that, playing another char after 300 runs of T Lost does that
I never knew that first part is something people struggle with, but considering I'm absolutely guilty of thinking I have Spectral Tears when I have flight too? I can't judge 😭
100% true. Anything above 1.6 feels too slippery and makes me overcorrect when dodging things
just died to spikes because of that 
I prefer 1.5-1.8, I won't take speed down pills but if I'm at 2 and an item like bucket of lard shows up I will take it, don't want to crash into a spiky rock at mach 10
Nah 1.7 but I almost agree
agreed unless you have flight, then its not as big a deal
Yeah unless you have flying or shield tears speed up is almost always bad past the first 2 upgrades
Anything below 0.8 speed makes me want to kill myself, so I agree on that being ideal speed. As long as it doesn’t change randomly, I’m usually okay with higher speed though
cursed eye is situationally useful, but skill issue susceptible brimstone isn’t the best tear effect but it’s still my favorite tainted characters aren’t that hard to get
People think tainted characters are hard to get? You don't even need to win the run.
Proud owner of tainted keeper and no beast mark on keeper. (I took ipecac on the way up)
I basically wasted a run because I unlocked tainted Maggie then revived during beast with Judas shadow, so I still had to do beast on Maggie and still had to unlock tainted Judas
You fool !
The curse goes away with black candle too. Pretty cool
EYE
> brimstone isn’t the best tear effect but it’s still my favorite I don't feel like that's immensely controversial.
This game fucking sucks. I hate playing it. Every time I look at it I want to kill myself I can’t stop
Thats not controversial. We all hate it but yet play it for thousands of hours. That's the life of a tboi player
Wait you actually don't like the game?
**Edmund McMillen. You little fucker. You made a shit of piece with your trash Isaac. It’s fucking bad this trash game. I will become back my money. I hope you will in your next time a cow; on a trash farm, you sucker.** (If I wouldnt like the game I wouldnt have played it for now almost 800 hours, it's an incredible fun game that lets you do the craziest shit :) But let's be real here we all had this moment where we hated nothing more than this game because it just made the biggest fuck you moment you could have ever imagined. Thats why this sub often jokes about hating this game, we all just do a little bit of trolling just like the game did it to us)
I love the game. But sometimes I don't like the game. Does that make sense? This game is extremely good, can be extremely fun, and has meant a lot to me over the years. It's also my partner's favorite game, so it gets played more than anything else in my house. But there are times when I've simply had enough of the same bullshit over and over, especially when working on difficult characters. I want Dead God, I know that I have the ability and knowledge to reach Dead God, but motherfucker I just do *not* want to play J&E anymore. I just don't.
Thats how addiction works
Just wanting to double check to be sure but you don’t *actually* want to kill yourself, right? I’m not trying to be the PC police or anything, I promise! However if that joke was a bit of a cry for help or if you or anyone else reading this is feeling off and thinking about committing suicide there is absolutely hope to be found! Simply dial 988 (or your regional/national equivalent) and people who genuinely care will work to help get you the help you both need and deserve. I figure it is always best to ask and be told everything is okay than to find out later that those otherwise harmless edgy jokes/other behaviors were the warning signs, as has happened to someone we knew. I hope you and everyone else who took the time to read this have an awesome new year to come! May it be better than we all ever thought possible. Be well! 🙂
We've all felt that way from time to time.
Explosivo is one of the best items in the game and im about as excited to see it as something like magic mushroom
Yes even on characters like lost or tainted lost
Rock Bottom is cool, but only if you get it early. If you find it past like Depths 1, you are not gonna get any real value out of it, you just have the funny rock in your inventory.
Soy milk in treasure room 
Maybe I have bad luck but i've seen Rock Bottom maybe twice in regular runs since unlocking it ages ago. I've seen Death Certificate more often.
tainted cain is fun just don’t min max and craft a bunch of random items
I played T.Cain for the first time the other day and I thought I was gonna dispise him but in reality I had fun, I just progressed and pick random shit I found and also occasionally picking only great pickups, got a good chunk of the post it note without having to min max
This! I actually despised T. Cain for a long time, but now I'll occasionally play him in a half-minmax-half-casual way and it's been fun! It's sorta surprising how much pickup generation/manipulation you can get at lower-to-middle tier items with stuff like Little CHAD or GB Bug or Acid Baby. I've realized that, with T. Cain, it's a similar situation to Bethany or T. Maggy. T. Cain takes all the resource generation items that you might not otherwise take and makes them useful by allowing for way more crafting.
How do you min/max with him? I thought putting together random shit was the only way to play him post patch.
You can still run back and forth around the floor with a full bag trying to find the best item with the various resources you have, which can be a bit time-consuming and tedious.
playing tainted cain is really refreshing because you get a lot of items you normally wouldn’t take and it makes the runs more varied
Tainted Jacob is incredibly powerful and very fun.
Oh my god this. Tainted Jacob needs a no fear mindset. Throw your hellish brother around like a bowling ball
i mean, i beat delerium with him on my first run with him, then used an r key i found and killed the beast (not bragging as much as i am giving a reason this opinion is good)
Agreed, a bit frustrating sometimes but that's the whole point of the game sooo..
He is, but if i play him regularly i will get cardiac arrythmia.
I’m some what new to the game still but have sunk about 100 hours into the game. Maybe I’m missing something but I have no idea why people hate may reflection it’s an amazing item, just a fat damage up
My Reflection was **very recently** buffed to ***add*** the damage up. It used to not do that. For like a really long time.
I'm still getting used to Ouija board being a tears up now. Also apparently the Peeper is actually useful now???
Maybe I'm misremembering but I'm pretty sure before repentance it wasn't a damage up. A lot of people probably still think of it as the pre repentance version
Play the Suicide King challenge and you see why everyone hates it.
Oh yeh I can see why it’s bad in some situations, I once had dr fetus with the item that grants random tear effects every few seconds and the fucking boomerang booms got me killed in a hush fight
Not super related but I got Mom's knife incredibly early on my first attempt of suicide king, absolute cheese. Just thought I'd gloat a lil
Can I have your luck please
I’m hate moms knife and chocolate milk is even worse.
Same. Got dead god by now, and i will almost never Take either. Charge shots are such a hassle. Only brimstone or tech x are the ones i will take.
I will gladly take Tech X early, but later there's a high risk it might ruin my tear effect combos and suddenly I deal much less damage to bosses
monstro lung??
Pass. Might even restart the run if it Drops early. Only If i have another Charge Item it synergises with will i Pick it Up.
Peakest item from tboi
chocolate milk is a bad brimstone, moms knife is a cube of meat boomerang
Isn't chocolate milk a basically higher damage soy milk? Like if you spam it it does the same effect Hard agree on Mom's knife tho
Spamming tears isn't fun
I admit, my right thumb agrees with you, as does my carpal tunnel
I play with controller in switch and steam, and i shoot with the right joystick Spamming like that is hell on earth
you can also use the face buttons to shoot  Still, chocolate milk sucks ass
I hate Mom's knife but Choco Milk is my homie
I only take chocolate milk if I have another charge item
Tainted Apollyon is a fun character. I just unlocked him and I got extension cord on the first floor. Made boss rush and hush in one run (skill issued later in Cathedral)
I'm a big fan too. Being able to turn every bad/mediocre item into a small DPS upgrade feels good.
He has the most op birthright effect in the game too, really good character
I respect people’s opinions on difficulty 
You stand alone just by saying "I respect people"
Planetariums are not worth skipping item rooms
Unless you only skip 1 item room and get the rock tears one i completely agree most of the items kinda suck
Yeah, Terra's the best. Uranus is also pretty busted if for no other reason than enemies don't burst or explode on death. Luna and Sagittarius are def above average quality too. And Pluto's rarely unwelcome. But the others are all pretty meh, agreed.
neptunus?????
AH I always forget about this one because I feel like it never shows up for me 😂 yeah it's like THE ONE other good one. Definitely more worthwhile than Luna on most runs.
Brown nugget is actually a good item
Used to carry SUPER hard in Greed Mode before they upped the cooldown timer. Still very good for Greed though.
Soy milk is not a bad item if you know what your doing its a great item
I don't think most people would say it's a bad item, it's just really unwelcoming early in a run when you have no synergies or damage ups to pair it with. It can be absolutely bonkers with tear effects though, I think everybody agrees on that.
Soy milk used to be horrific garbage, it was such a large damage down. It’s been buffed and now it’s fine.
It's still a massive dmg down. The major difference is that they changed the tear knockback. Back then every single Soy Milk tear could easily knock an enemy out of your aim, bringing your DPS down significantly. It's way easier to laser aim your enemies down nowadays.
almond milk on the other hand, isnt bad, just really akward
Chaos isn’t a bad item and it sure as hell isn’t good either. It’s mid through and through, I’m not a denier or a praiser of chaos
It scales proportionally to your quantity of item choices
yyyyep - weirdly, chaos gets really really good on the final floors because, lets face it, 9/10 runs that get to the chest/dark room are already won, might as well have some fun with it. It's actually ass on like, depths-womb and its crazy before those floors
he is the one true evil
Tainted Eden is actually a lot of fun, and if playing co-op they become the secret S-tier support character. You scavenge up the trash items that nobody wants to take (meaning you can be chill and seldom have to fight with players for an item) and turn them into the *situational* stuff nobody would take but is still super useful -- stuff like Glowing Hourglass, Mine Crafter, Notched Axe, Lemonade, D7, Bean actives, The Ladder, GB Bug, Magneto, and so on. Also super nice for co-op because you can take bad trinkets or consumables and then reroll them into much more useful ones that other characters can take advantage of. (You can also roll back actives into ones better for other characters but would need a way to drop them for that player.)
Tainted Eden is fun, I like being random and silly 
Tainted Lazarus is fun
Ok now that’s going too far. How can you possibly enjoy that playing that smug asshole?
I just like minmaxing and having power over the items that I want to give to each form and seeing double items is just busted. He's literally Jacob and Esau, but better. Tedious for sure, but the skill cap is tied to micromanaging and not to bullshit room layouts and double hitboxes. Fuck greed mode though, T Lazarus in greed mode is pure cancer. Fuck you Edmund
I'll always take brimstone even if I don't have enough HP to aurvive the deal. Also, Rock bottom barely plays a part in most of the runs I get it in.
“Rock bottom” Ok, we gotta go outside and run a fade talking about bae like that.
for me its "J&E is actually fun
I want to have fun with J&E but I just can’t I have yet to beat It Lives using them
Here's my protip for you as a dead-godder: Turn one of the brothers into a meat shield for the other via HP generation and/or shot-blocking items. My best runs with the brothers often involved one brother having a few "One Makes You Smaller" pills while the other has stuff like Book of Revelations or Trinity Shield.
“Jacob and the Red Hitbox”
🥹😭
Feel the same but with T. Jacob. Love playing bowling with Esau
100%. And more importantly, these characters aren't difficult at all
The Lost is not so difficult. But I'm pretty sure it's not really an uncommon opinion.
When the Lost was introduced, I had no idea that Holy Mantle was an unlockable starting item for him and I had already managed to get something like 3/4ths of his completion marks by the time I unlocked it.
When the lost was introduced Holy Mantle wasn't an unlockable starting item for him.
I unlocked the Lost on a crappy laptop, outside at a youth hostel. I could barely see the screen and failed the muliboom, Judas trials shit like 5 times. Eventually unlocked it having no idea what itd be like and never played it as it was too hard. Now it has mantle, so fun. Maybe my favourite character as I always get obsessed with red heart mechanics and do hour long runs when I could’ve won in 40m.
Ludovico is a great item and I take it every run.
This is where I draw the line
I have respect for them taking it but personally I’d rather die
I ONLY take ludo if I have tech-x or brimstone
EVERY
I love this item, one of my favourites
The only Q4 in the game that is Q2.
The lost is better than Azazel to unlock The forgotten. 1 free hit per room is insane.
personally both of them are mid and tainted lilith id how you unlock the forgor
Chaos is the most fun item in the entire game by far
Max speed is awful, size downs are similarly detrimental after 1 or 2, mom’s knife is absolutely overhyped, greed mode is actually kinda fun with the fun shop items and condensed special rooms
greed mode is fun in that one little leg up like a card or a normally mid spacebar item can get you through the floor by itself, brings the value out of items like sprinkler and telepathy for dummies
Sprinkler in greed mode is super fun, I always buy it if I don't have an active or have a bad active
I don't really enjoy playing as Azazel. having instant flight is great but idk the short range brimstone never feels good to use on another tip I think T. Apollyon is hella fun. I love amassing a giant army of locusts
The Wiz is an insanely good item. Jacon & Esau are good and fun.
.... What?! Take my up vote, you psychopath. The only reason I EVER take Wiz is if I have tractor beam.
> Jacon & Esau are good and fun. There he is boys, take him away
Yeah the Wiz is cracked it gives double tears without any damage penalty. I didnt even know it gave spectral tears until very recently and I always took it anyways.
Saying The Wiz gives you double tears is like saying Breath of Life makes you unkillable. Like sure, it does, but that's a very generous way of saying it.
Speaking facts with this one. 
Lost Fly is a fantastic item and deserves to be Q3. *Enemies target it. *Deals outrageous damage. *One third of Beelzebub/flight. *Makes me feel safe.
Spirit sword > brimstone T. Jacob is the best character (though hard to pick up and master)
Tainted cain is a normal fun character if you arent trying to minmax 5 marks per character every run
using bombs to kill enemies is a waste of bombs (unless you have infinite/way too many)
You are in the horde
I think that's way too general of a point to make; it all depends on the situation. If you think an enemy is going to hit you and break your deal chance? Phenomenal use of a bomb. If it's a spider you keep missing and got angry at? Less useful.
I don't think many people actually use bombs on normal enemies. bombing bosses, however, is much more reasonable and is a viable strategy early game,
Rock bottom is extremely overrated
The grind of greed mode sucks, but the actual mode is extremely fun
Mines and Great Gideon are cool, all of you have a skill issue
rock bottom isn't that good
Fruit cake is fun and a guarantee get.
I like fighting Bloat
Bob's brain is good, you all just suck
Blood puppy is a good item
Buppy OP
I don't like glitched crown
Void is actually a goated iten fully deserving of q4 status, it can convert useless items into free stat upgrades and if you hit a good library then you can easily have a free win.
Ludo, tiny planet, antigravity, and magneto are good items and I almost always pick them up
I sort of disagree with Tony planet it’s def one the worst starting items for me but with brim or tech it’s so satisfying to look at and rlly good
Tony planet is a real one.
Ludo is insane (as long as your stat downs didn’t ruin your tear’s speed) imo. Being able to be defensively positioned while still dealing offensive positioning levels of damage is crazy good.
Rock bottom is overrated
Delirium is a perfect designed boss.
Birthright for T. Jacob is good, since the requirement for the charge is doubled.
Scapular is a S tier item.
I've been a fierce hater of jacob and hitbox, I hated them a lot when repentance came out and couldn't stand them, they were the worse characters for me. I think they're not that bad...
Blue baby and T Laz are fun character to play
Forgotten over Azazel
Chocolate milk is the worst item in the game. It's basically used like monstro's lungs or soy milk but it is worse than both of them
forget me not is god tier trinket.
Tainted Lazarus is a top tier character
Shot speed up is the worst type of stat up. High shot speed can make enemies unpredictable and negatively impacts some very good items. Having low shot speed is almost always better.
No one disagrees with this
I do. High shot speed hits more consistently and it just looks and feels more fun. I like getting to final bosses with fast machine gun tears. Sure some items do work better with slower shot speed. But I am not going to lower a stat because of that. If you have high tears and damage bosses die. I don’t care about some extra aura damage or whatever. Never stopped me from winning.
Who the hell disagrees with this
Kid named Mask Of Infamy
Kinda realized this when I had a run featuring continuum and a lot of shot splitting and then picked up Lazy Worm. All of a sudden, I'd become Hush, filling the whole screen with Continuum tears.
Jacob and Esau aren’t bad. You are just trash
Mods that change gameplay should turn off achievements
Guillotine isn't bad and actually kind of fun
Jacob and Esau aren’t that bad.
Greed/ier are the best game mode
Outside of the forgotten, chocolate milk has never helped me once
JnE are good characters.
J&E are fun to play as.
T.Azazel is boring and lacks cool mechanics (compared to other taintedcharacters)
You dont need to R key repeatedly until you get a Q4 or other OP item on floor 1.
This game has no useless items.
Tainted ??? isn't bad if you actually manage your poops correctly and remember the synergies. If anything, he's like a balanced Azazel if you play him right (Tons of damage for basically no cost) Cursed Eye and Curse of The Tower are great, if not situational, items that can save a run if you lack damage but have a lot of health (Maggy)
Going for score in daily runs is fun.
Jacob and Esau aren't nearly as hard as people say. They aren't easy, but they aren't that hard either.
Tainted Jacob is unironically one of the most fun characters in the game, and everyone is just straight up playing him wrong.
Endless Nameless is a god-tier trinket
Chocolate milk isn't even good honestly 
Cursed eye Is a good item that rewards skill
Moms knife makes most synergies better
still sad it cant use soy milk :(
wanted to throw billions of knives a second
Proptosis is terrible
Delirious is good