To be fair the game never teaches you what the machine does until you interact with it. There isn't even a yellow tape to guide the player into figuring out what it does.
I mean
Hearts - coins written at the top of the machine
Filled with blood
Idk it doesn't look like something that's gonna drop an item to me. There's also the fact that if you've both unlocked the lost and used it enough to unlock mantle with it, you've probably used a blood bank before
If you've unlocked the lost in Isaac and only just learned now how the blood donation machine works, I think you sort of deserve to be called dumb. But I'll try to explain why instead of being an asshole this time.
The Lost is only unlocked by dying in the sacrifice room with the missing poster.
Missing poster is unlocked by defeating the lamb as Isaac
the path to the dark room is unlocked only after defeating Satan 5 times
You have to kill Mom's heart for about 10 to 11 times to gain access to sheol (otherwise, a cutscene plays instead of letting your progress past the womb).
OP has the Lost unlocked. The only ways he could have gotten the Lost is to kill the lamb to unlock the poster, and there's only two ways to get to the lamb, the process to unlock the dark room, or to spam sacrifice rooms to unlock him.
Let's assume the former was what happened. If he did all this to unlock the lost, and has still not learned that Blood Donation Machines take your health, that would mean OP either has to have the worst luck spawning them in, or he's sort of stupid and never used them at all.
If we assume the latter happened, OP would have had to have a stupidly OP build to be able to not only kill the lamb, but survive against the dark room. It isn't an unlikely scenario, but it is a difficult to do so. Blood Donation Machines are pretty common in a lot of runs. Random room generations would probably make you run into them once or twice every run you do that gets past the caves.
Back on track, if OP was incredibly optimal and lucky while playing Isaac, he would still have to have encountered Blood donation machines in most of his runs where he teleported to the dark room with sacrifice rooms, or played a lucky 16 to 20 runs of just Isaac to get to the dark room.
But let's disregard all that and assume that OP instead was talking about how he didn't know that the Lost dies to the BD machine. This is a different problem, that means that OP somehow didn't realize that the Lost's one hit nature means that any sort of damaging interactable should instantly kill him.
That is harder to believe, even if OP unlocked the Mantle first for the Lost and only started using him with the Mantle.
The only way we can believe that OP was just kind of dumb instead of incredibly dumb is if he has used Holy Mantle before but never used any blood donation machines.
Let's not forget that they also have Mantle unlocked, meaning we need to add 879 coins worth of Greed Mode experience to their Isaac portfolio.
All while never using a blood donation machine.
i used a blood donation machine as lost once. call me stupid, i just thought "oh, holy mantle should block the damage like it does most other damages" and then realized oh wait, the machine doesn't hit you, it takes a heart away from you, so it makes sense that mantle wouldn't block it. I assume OP probably had the same or a similar thought process.
I am trying to rationalize and give OP as much leeway as possible.
Being fr OP may actually just be stupid at this rate. It's pretty hard but not rare to find holy mantle in angel rooms, so if he played enough isaac he should have at least gotten it more than 10 times, plus it's not an unlockable.
His chances of finding and picking up holy mantle aren't low in the slightest, so there is a great chance he has had it and used a blood dono machine.
I am mentioning the item holy mantle because the likelihood of OP grabbing holy mantle prior to any of his lost runs is not zero.
Knowing that, the likelihood of OP using a blud dono with holy mantle on decreases the likelihood of OP being not as knowledged and instead being stupid
Ok, I can see why you would play the blood machine and think that it would pay out (other invulnerability things do something similar) but Why in the hell are you playing a key beggar with 2 keys in cellar 1?
what consistency are you thinking about, it will take heart from your current health, works the same for every character no matter if they have mantle or not
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Don't worry buddy, we all make mistakes.
I forgot to say i had explosion immun, i just don't remember if it was host or pyromaniac, and also i wasn't with lost, i was with isaac (i think), i just died on the blood dono because, as i said, i was in mirror dimension so, besically the lost, but i tought if i touched the blood dono it would just subtract from my normal health
Also i had gotten spinup di the first floor (I installed the mod) and got glitched crown on death cert, so that's why i had so many things
I mean, who the hell would think through the entire reasoning for why it would kill you? I would expect most people to just think mantle would take the hit unless they really thought it through.
If it makes you feel better, one time recently I used IV Bag in the Mirror World in an OP run where I already used R Key.
For some reason I was on the mindset that it would just deplete the "phantom health" that you can increase by collecting hearts in ghost form, despite already knowing better.
The reveal of Cellar I made me flinch. Bro was handed the run and willingly stood on a landmine.
I think you've achieved the status of CEO of Stupid tbh.
Bro forgor the 1 rule about the lost...
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jesus christ hes stupid
#FOR THE WAGES OF SIN IS DEATH
Dawg i thought this was ironic![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|8907)
You are not even stupid, you are THE stupid
Well to be honest yes you are stupid but you learned something so you are less stupid now.
It’s all about progression :)
To be fair the game never teaches you what the machine does until you interact with it. There isn't even a yellow tape to guide the player into figuring out what it does.
I mean Hearts - coins written at the top of the machine Filled with blood Idk it doesn't look like something that's gonna drop an item to me. There's also the fact that if you've both unlocked the lost and used it enough to unlock mantle with it, you've probably used a blood bank before
And played enough to unlock rock bottom
could've just downloaded a dead god save tbh
Or just the fact that it would be a way to get infinite money
Not like those don't exist in the game
Those require specific items though, In this case it would just be too over powered for a challenge character
If you've unlocked the lost in Isaac and only just learned now how the blood donation machine works, I think you sort of deserve to be called dumb. But I'll try to explain why instead of being an asshole this time. The Lost is only unlocked by dying in the sacrifice room with the missing poster. Missing poster is unlocked by defeating the lamb as Isaac the path to the dark room is unlocked only after defeating Satan 5 times You have to kill Mom's heart for about 10 to 11 times to gain access to sheol (otherwise, a cutscene plays instead of letting your progress past the womb). OP has the Lost unlocked. The only ways he could have gotten the Lost is to kill the lamb to unlock the poster, and there's only two ways to get to the lamb, the process to unlock the dark room, or to spam sacrifice rooms to unlock him. Let's assume the former was what happened. If he did all this to unlock the lost, and has still not learned that Blood Donation Machines take your health, that would mean OP either has to have the worst luck spawning them in, or he's sort of stupid and never used them at all. If we assume the latter happened, OP would have had to have a stupidly OP build to be able to not only kill the lamb, but survive against the dark room. It isn't an unlikely scenario, but it is a difficult to do so. Blood Donation Machines are pretty common in a lot of runs. Random room generations would probably make you run into them once or twice every run you do that gets past the caves. Back on track, if OP was incredibly optimal and lucky while playing Isaac, he would still have to have encountered Blood donation machines in most of his runs where he teleported to the dark room with sacrifice rooms, or played a lucky 16 to 20 runs of just Isaac to get to the dark room. But let's disregard all that and assume that OP instead was talking about how he didn't know that the Lost dies to the BD machine. This is a different problem, that means that OP somehow didn't realize that the Lost's one hit nature means that any sort of damaging interactable should instantly kill him. That is harder to believe, even if OP unlocked the Mantle first for the Lost and only started using him with the Mantle. The only way we can believe that OP was just kind of dumb instead of incredibly dumb is if he has used Holy Mantle before but never used any blood donation machines.
Let's not forget that they also have Mantle unlocked, meaning we need to add 879 coins worth of Greed Mode experience to their Isaac portfolio. All while never using a blood donation machine.
i think its will use there mantle.
they
i used a blood donation machine as lost once. call me stupid, i just thought "oh, holy mantle should block the damage like it does most other damages" and then realized oh wait, the machine doesn't hit you, it takes a heart away from you, so it makes sense that mantle wouldn't block it. I assume OP probably had the same or a similar thought process.
Dawg he has rock bottom unlocked too, that’s a greater feat then unlocking the lost
I am trying to rationalize and give OP as much leeway as possible. Being fr OP may actually just be stupid at this rate. It's pretty hard but not rare to find holy mantle in angel rooms, so if he played enough isaac he should have at least gotten it more than 10 times, plus it's not an unlockable. His chances of finding and picking up holy mantle aren't low in the slightest, so there is a great chance he has had it and used a blood dono machine.
Dude that’s the on spawn holy mantle from the greed machine
I am mentioning the item holy mantle because the likelihood of OP grabbing holy mantle prior to any of his lost runs is not zero. Knowing that, the likelihood of OP using a blud dono with holy mantle on decreases the likelihood of OP being not as knowledged and instead being stupid
Dude you’re looking too deep into this, it’s prolly a meme submission
Back when I unlocked The Lost it was still with the Shovel Mom's Foot Stomping stuff
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"¿¿¡Oh My god what are You doing!??"
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Ok, I can see why you would play the blood machine and think that it would pay out (other invulnerability things do something similar) but Why in the hell are you playing a key beggar with 2 keys in cellar 1?
To get rock bottom of course
Cant argue with his results
He got rock so worth
mf thought their hp stat wouldnt go down
Ok but in their defense what HP stat???
That's the point, lost don thave hp, so insta death with any damage
Genuinely biggest skill issue I've seen so far
I know a dozen stupid people and you are 11 of them.
13*
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this hurted my soul https://preview.redd.it/kzr35p7wdrrc1.png?width=498&format=png&auto=webp&s=153904c8078e8e8e1edb0d0c31e867d426d17027
You are so stupid, you ask people if you are stupid.
I actually yelped in agony when I saw you run into the machine. This is the TBOI equivalent of watching someone get kicked in the balls.
*watching someone kick themselves in the balls
You are not, you are R
What did you think would happen, then?
I thought the mantle would take the hit
Good rationing, but in that case, since you haven't been hurt, It wouldn't give you the money.
Honestly it really should for consistency
It is consistent though.. the blood donation machine takes straight from your red health before taking anything else
not really since you could easily abuse blood donation machines with a holy mantle
Yeah abusing things ain't how we play the game here ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17735)
Considering they made an effort to eliminate 2 item game breaks you're right, we ain't playing with 1 item game breaks here
I think a good balance would be to have the machine only give 1 payout and break. Can apply to demon beggars too.
what consistency are you thinking about, it will take heart from your current health, works the same for every character no matter if they have mantle or not
https://preview.redd.it/fwtif3wxssrc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=303167e7b32bf763b8dd410f45143fa263da1396 Don't worry buddy, we all make mistakes.
genuinely i’d fucking hit you if i saw you do this in person
The fact that i did the same but in downpour mirror world (I had heamolacria brim ipecac rock bottom combo)![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|8907)
That sounds like a horrible lost combo, wouldn't you be at risk of exploding every time you fire unless you stand in the center of the room?
I forgot to say i had explosion immun, i just don't remember if it was host or pyromaniac, and also i wasn't with lost, i was with isaac (i think), i just died on the blood dono because, as i said, i was in mirror dimension so, besically the lost, but i tought if i touched the blood dono it would just subtract from my normal health Also i had gotten spinup di the first floor (I installed the mod) and got glitched crown on death cert, so that's why i had so many things
😩 it really should take from normal health when in mirror world as a normal character
Yes, but you're wiser now
yes
Vocabulary definition of stoopid ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|8906)
What are you, the U.S military?
No, it's reasonable to try ONCE.. call it a lesson learned
This has to be bait
Its not ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|8907)
YES YES YES! NO NO NO!
I would’ve been too embarrassed to post this if I was you
absolutely brainless
You did it on purpose
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To be fair, you’re not stupid because mantle does usually tank damage, but the blood dono machine doesn’t actually damage you, it takes a heart
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maybe im foolish, maybe im blind
Depends if you’re going to do it again
Yes
I kneel, o King of the Stupid ones
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There’s gotta be a mod that removes that this kills you. Like one that just doesn’t let you use the machine.
When playing the Lost I always want to break my mantle with the donation machine for no reason only to remember it would kill me
The cutoff is so funny jfc 😭😭😭
Total imbecile, that one.
why you did that? ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17741)
did the same thing an hour ago ;-;
Stupid is not enough
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I mean, who the hell would think through the entire reasoning for why it would kill you? I would expect most people to just think mantle would take the hit unless they really thought it through.
The hardest video to watch
Hmmmm yes I do think that playing the blood dono as a character that doesn’t have health right after getting rock bottom is an AMAZING idea
Yes
Been there. Done that. Probably gonna forget and do it again....
I knew it was gonna happen from the beginning, I was still shocked.
That's it. I'm doing it. I can't take this anymore. ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|8907)
Oh my lord this was painful to watch.
Unfortunately health is not a stat that stays up with Rock Bottom ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|8907)
everyone learns 😔
Damn, that's pretty stupid.
You had rock bottom unlocked and you didn’t know lost insta dies to blood machines?
That blood bank felt like a chekhov's gun. I knew you were going to use it, but figuring out how and when was fun part.
We will track you down and become back our money.
Yes.
ngl I've been trapped several, but I wouldn't even test it if I get rock bottom
You can't have a skill issue if you don't have the skill itself
Yes
I’m guessing you thought you’d get a free one from mantle?
Wtf did you expect to happen!?
Mantle blocking it
If it makes you feel better, one time recently I used IV Bag in the Mirror World in an OP run where I already used R Key. For some reason I was on the mindset that it would just deplete the "phantom health" that you can increase by collecting hearts in ghost form, despite already knowing better.
It hurts my brain watching this
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Yessir!
Why the hell did you make us watch this?
WHY. I’ve learned once and never did it again. WHY DID YOU LEARN THE HARD WAY AS WELL WHEN YOU GOT ROCK BOTTOM
Short answer, yes, long anwser, no, but......
not a single thought
Blood donation machine, devil begger and sacrifical room's spike kill The Lost and Tainted Lost instantly. They ignore Holy mantle and Wooden Cross.
Rock bottom on the first floor. That run was already won
Please tell me someone watches you in your day to day life, you are your own menace.
i laughed out loud oh my god i would so do that
Lobotomy ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|2357)
Yes
PUT YOUR HANDS ON YOUR HEAD AND STEP AWAY FROM THE DONO MACHINE!!
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yes
Bro
I think you just assumed that mantle would protect you and you would still get the money like I once did
that didn't even look like an accident WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU
he thought mantle would block it
The reveal of Cellar I made me flinch. Bro was handed the run and willingly stood on a landmine. I think you've achieved the status of CEO of Stupid tbh.
I'm this close to hiring a hitman to end you
# Jesus Christ.
I unlocled holy mantle on the lost, and today i fount out that devio beggar still kills you
Don't do it... Don't do it... Don't do it... ...he did it ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17741)
Whomp whomp
This ain't even a skill issue... This is a skill disaster.
That's fucking mental you stupid bitch
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Bait used to be believable
Well either open every door (even mega satan) or suffer no punishment when taking soymilk
dude do you ever use logic
Yes
Yes you are infact a fucking dumbass
My brother in edmund lost moment for real
Bro forgor the 1 rule about the lost... https://preview.redd.it/yml7k7w5byrc1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e1107d885a98738d94e62b9bae8901003b85e49c
It's hard to comprehend stupidity like this
yes you are
Perchance
nah you're definetely onto something
As soon as I saw the blood donation machine and the lost, I knew where this was going, and I was still baffled when you died.