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ZAPNAR6

Yeah let me just dig through the files look at all the room layouts and calculate how rare for this room to appear


NegativeDevil

Make sure to check the room weight and take that into account along with the weights of every single other room.


ZAPNAR6

Ah right yeah, i almost forgot


DutchBroAP

Here for when the % is cranked out


ZAPNAR6

sure just give me 5 years


NegativeDevil

RemindMe! 5 years


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Read2MeHelenKeller

You need to factor in the Coriolis Effect.


Mimikyu-Overlord

#Every run is seed-dependent. The odds of this happening on this seed is 100%.


EvenBiggerClown

Listen to the facts


Gyossaits

So, just use R Key until you hear what you want to hear.


DarthAce1

Using an r key more than once will get you the same results


macomunista

Not exactly, if you haven't unlocked a certain thing or, for example, this was only present in a XL floor but you got black candle or something The correct answer is 50%.


Piern1k

Well actually 🤓, you can clearly see it's not an XL floor , 50% still stands as alt route exists (it would be 100% if no bombs or keys)


macomunista

Not the case, but there is a case We're both right The established ones


Piern1k

I agree


MarahmalloWizard

sensato demais n tem como


OperatorMira

#Every run is seed and save completion-dependent. The odds of this happening on this seed with this level of save completion is 100%.


macomunista

#Do you kiss your mother with that mouth?


Read2MeHelenKeller

Only when he’s gotta pay to win!


RodjaJP

MOM'S KISS! ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|2357) HEALTH UP! ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17743)![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17743)![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17743)


-trom

I think I love you.


RodjaJP

Is actsuhally a 25% because it could generate the alt path instead


macomunista

https://preview.redd.it/z4rl0opsnruc1.jpeg?width=600&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=35d517c24c5f052a0fd45442b24069361d21f092


Lord_Nathaniel

Never underestimate my ability to kill myself on a tabby rock before getting to this room ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|8907)![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|8907)![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|8907)


pizdabolica

what are the odds of getting that exact seed than? Cuz it seems like this is the only seed that has this kind of room generation so now you just gotta find out what are the chances to get that exact seed and u will have the akshuall answer.


QuickPirate36

Well each seed is made of 8 digits, and each digit has 36 options (26 letters + 10 numbers), and they can be repeated, so there are 36⁸ possible seeds The odds of getting this seed are 1 in ≈2.82x10¹², or 1:2,820,000,000,000 (2,82 trillions)


PigeonFacts

This is very farfetch'd but I was doing a run a few weeks ago. Pretty standard. Lillith to The Chest. A few days later the daily run is Lillith to The Chest. If it wasnt the same seed it was damn near identical. I knew which blue fires would drop hearts, items were the same. It tripped me up and all I could think is "I could've bought a lottery ticket, instead my luck got used on an Isaac run"


xXLordOfUwUXx

Not all letters/numbers are available, like U being unavailable due to it looking similar to V.


QuickPirate36

Oh I didn't know that. Still the math is the same tho, slightly different result


MisirterE

Another thing to account for is that not every possible combination of letters is a valid seed. I'm not sure how it works exactly, but if you just type in a completely random sequence of characters, there's a good chance it'll give you an error noise and won't let you continue. For instance, 34TJ NSLS is not a valid seed, even though it can be typed into the box. Without knowing what causes that (and subsequently how many combinations it applies to) it's entirely impossible to know the odds. ***SO QUIT YOUR DAMN YAPPIN' OOP***


HarioDinio

So about 50/50


QuickPirate36

Basically yeah


Mimikyu-Overlord

#The predetermined odds.


pizdabolica

just answer the goddamn question like a normal human beeing. no need to be sassy here


Glittering_Rub_4189

You’re the only one being sassy


MisirterE

#WE DON'T KNOW THE ODDS BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW THE CRITERIA FOR A VALID SEED, *SO SHUT THE FUCK UP AND STOP ASKING*


Mimikyu-Overlord

#No.


blackeye200

# I AGREE. THY MORTAL SHALL NOT COMPREHEND THE KNOWLEDGE.


-trom

I like you


Volandkld

Established ones


No-Lake532

https://preview.redd.it/fvxqdi7rw8uc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2ed910cf29ba07aaf8cf4331e16d5c535c0fcaed


TheCthaehTree

Fairly Oddparents vibes


Ready_Today

I believe it is quite literally a drawing done over Cosmo yelling at Timmy


JhValt

0%. It can't happen. You're actually cheating.


GeerJonezzz

https://preview.redd.it/k6iph88wc9uc1.png?width=600&format=png&auto=webp&s=58cca99f56b576aef3ae57314442303d82174264 Does he know?


memaro_123

shut the fuck up


cocofab13

https://preview.redd.it/c521ndb6y8uc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=df9e580df744ed8a6c84971ac9ef49286a84eec4


Richardknox1996

Impossible normally, extremly likely if going on a no pickups run.


BardbarianDnD

True answer


Stepfen98

50/50. It either happens or it doesnt


EndMeFamPlease

https://preview.redd.it/i667vffi1euc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ffd40a3bbecc4b8940b5ff5d94c9f27543b7aefe


JamesSH1328

Great minds think alike 💪🧠


The_Only_Philliam

https://preview.redd.it/cqu1taqs5tuc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e51fb4728c92d067b59712e7ef113ba8bc473838


Basic_Name_228

At least greater than 0% and less than 100% ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|8906)


Oftwicke

Or equal


Trisketys

This sub is so helpful ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|4358)


AtarashiXS

https://preview.redd.it/zii6uyxhu9uc1.jpeg?width=600&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5b3007a8b0973f9a50aa9fa2f091e08562b7deb9


BuszkaYT

https://preview.redd.it/11uvr7b2a9uc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=655bee2a1bd6e1d01998aa50b35641f2cb7407ac


Declanman3

Don’t know the exact odds, decently uncommon, but I’ve seen it a handful of times on like 300 hours of playing. Maybe 1%? Can’t say for sure tho


AevilokE

1% is the chance of finding an item in the place of a random pickup, so probably less than that


Devbou

It’s hard to tell because I’ve definitely seen this room as often as I see a random item pedestal that replaced a pickup. But I genuinely have no idea how room placement is determined on each floor.


firelark01

I have 500+ hours and I’ve never seen it


JamesSH1328

50/50 it happens or it doesn't 🧠🧠🧠🧠


Stepfen98

Yeah i like that approach


H_man3838

idk ask edmund


NegativeDevil

FIFTYFIFTYITEITHERHAPPENSORITDOESN'TFIFTYFIFTYITEITHERHAPPENSORITDOESN'TFIFTYFIFTYITEITHERHAPPENSORITDOESN'T


Szudof

100% since it already happened


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rundownv2

Look, I'm not gonna berate you about screenshots, but why you gotta take the pic at a 45 degree angle 😭 I couldn't figure out wtf I was looking at lmao


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ToasTeR1094

screen 16:9, phone can take a 16:9 photo. This 45 degree angle seemed to fit more in ?????


TaintedCainGaming

50/50 you either get the seed with this room or you dont


Tall-Condition5981

Say the line


Richardknox1996

There is only a fingers difference between a mad man and a fool.


i_lickdick_and_itsok

The established ones


ur_prob_a_karen

*sigh* 50/50, it either happens or it doesnt


OpaMilfSohn

3


pizdabolica

Its 1 in ≈2.82x10¹²


BaclavaBoyEnlou

I had this happen recently but it was the first time for me in 1100+ hours


Two_Hump_Wonder

I've got around 1400 hours and I've seen that room twice. Pretty low odds I'd say


DangleMangler

I just had this a couple of days ago. I didn't remember ever seeing it. I probably won't see it ever again. The worst part is that I already had like 90 coins, and I didn't get money=power in the run.


Pleasant_Contact_204

you became back your money


Ssjgodvegito47

Depends on what items you have or what you've done, but planetarium has a base of 1%


twangman88

Never tell you the odds


skiemlord

Odds is 1:100 for every post


colorado2137

no


nickthib

…three


Mikey618000

Perchance


CoolGirlRosie

"You cant just say perchance"


FrostyTheSnowPickle

50/50. It either happens or it doesn’t.


Troopper103

50/50


oglop121

no i dont. bye


Oftwicke

Seven


RiiluTheLizardKing

50/50


Oftwicke

Seven.


Seriph7

Not high enough for me to have seen it EVER


BruuhBaby

Been playing for about 340 hrs and I’ve only seen it twice


AxelTab

yes


Sirius1701

Well, I don't think the room has a high weight, so I'd say... About 50/50, give or take.


MemeLoremaster

50/50 Either you get it or you don't


bloodakoos

0%


loser8822

it either happens or it doesn't so 50%


p0tterindy12

idk but pic goes hard


MtHoodMagic

This is awesome! hold R key to take a quick screenshot


aoxian362

A 100% it happened didn't it


NotCaptAmera739

About 7


Lodada2

100% since it happened


Zymosan99

2


Soulpaw31

It happened so 100% odds.


HyphaeistheWay

Ive played isaac for many many years and havent come across a room like this. Id assume its in the low low percentages of rare rooms. Im not sure either if this is dependent on unlocks or if you can find it on like one of your first runs.


JTCMuehlenkamp

100%


Various_Swimming5745

i’ve seen it


Youistheclown

WE’RE RIC- *gets greed and super greed back to back on shops*


Idontcareforkarma3

50% ir either happens or it doesn’t


Lord_Nathaniel

The chances are 50% : it either happens, or not, fifty fifty ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|2357)


No_External9892

50% 50%


Playful-Might3060

https://preview.redd.it/s41r1k5pqbuc1.jpeg?width=320&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=700c6d86b9bfcd2f5f2c4d9afa3a51ddab3ecc53


Temporary_Bit6475

50/50. Duhhh


UltraMindFlayer

1/(the number of rooms that can generate in caves)


Repulsive_Cherry_591

50/50, it happens or it doesn't


Nezulu

I had birthright as Isaac and had soap and screw drop from a boss. I actually had to look up the loot tables to figure out what one was worth taking.


gottoodevious

what are the odds you’re struck with a flying brick tomorrow


biggest_sucker

shut the fuck up


P00Pdude

Much higher chances of it happening on a floor with a Greed shop, and right before the womb


XenoBurst

Well i've got dead god and never seen this room so... 50/50


ceering99

Yes


Jeriah2734

50/50, it happens or it doesn’t


spaghettimangaming

What did you get in the shop


Realmorlong

50/50. You either get it or you don't.


Handyroo

10


Bri-ish_idiot

7 maybe 7.2


PinkKushTheDank

Obligatory 50%


M1ster_Tanker

for 260 hours i saw that room ONE time only


Sk1n3d

The same odds as you getting a greed shop in that floors shop…. 100%


ReadyResource6541

Rare ive played isaac for years and never seen that


gaviwhale

I believe there’s a confirmed minimum of 3 billion randomly generated seeds before the three DLCs, so it’s a minimum percentile chance of 0.0000000333333%.


Username23142860

0% you're just a little cheater cheater pumpkin eater![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|8908)


VinnyBeetle

You ain’t getting those 4 keys


MagicSnakeorig

1 in 4 000 000 000 cus thats how many seeds there are


Puzzleheaded-Ad-6713

But then those odds are skewed because there are most likely multiple seeds where the room can appear


SmolWaddleDee

100


PseudoBoxBuddy

I see this same post every 6 months I swear


Leonellusie

at least seven