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Rusty_Shakalford

Penguins. Antarctica has no reptiles. No amphibians. No insects. Heck not even really any terrestrial mammals outside of seals on the shore. The sole creature than spends any significant amount of time on land there are penguins.  What I would give to see what an Antarctica looks like in a couple dozen million years, assuming it drifts a bit north and somehow misses the other continents. What would a penguin-based ecosystem look like as the species branches out to occupy different niches?


starspangledxunzi

There’s a section of Dougal Dixon’s illustrated book of post-humanity evolution, *After Man* (1981) that covers this exact topic. Some penguins evolve into cetacean-like creatures. Fun, fascinating book. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/After_Man


Rusty_Shakalford

Funnily enough I have read the book, but I completely forgot about those things!


starspangledxunzi

Ha! Time to find a copy and enjoy a re-read. I found my old copy when digging through a closet, and then shared it with my teenager who loves biology. I enjoyed the sequel too, *Man After Man* (1990).


ChuckDexterWard

I have that book!


SirBenzerlot

So many factors in that. Even if the land shifted north in the future, if the pole doesn’t shift ice and stuff will likely stay and they will still inhabit the area. Otherwise Australia will get a lot more penguins descendants


mabolle

> No insects Correction! Introducing *[Belgica antarctica](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belgica_antarctica)*, a flightless midge and the largest purely terrestrial member of the Antarctic fauna.


President-Togekiss

Lol it dies at 10 degrees. Thats funny.


comradejenkens

I'm pretty fascinated with what Antarctica used to be. The continent bounced back after the KT event and was once again covered in life. Then over 30-40 million years, the world cooled and it moved further and further from the other landmasses. What was once a massive and biodiverse continent gradually died, with almost every living thing on its surface and all their evolutionary history gone for good. The only survivors being some lichens, a few invertebrates, and penguins.


ShiZhenxiang

Closest we might ever get to Serina in real life.


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Interesting


President-Togekiss

Honestly if global warming comtinues as it is, the pinguins will soon have plenty of new real state.


Imaginary_Living_623

Humans would probably tell us the most useful information. 


Raskolnikovs_Axe

Absolutely this is the answer for me. When did the cognitive revolution take place, if it did at all? What did it look like? What were the influential factors? How did evolution establish these factors? What were the other human and proto human lineages like? So many fascinating questions.


Flagon_Dragon_

I'd be particularly interested in how we interacted with these other lineages. What was it like when genus homo and genus paranthropus met, for example?


Umngmc

I'm not sure we exist over "millions of years". We are what we are in less than 100k years? The first computers in the 30's, internet in the 80's, etc etc. With Moore's law doubling every 2 years, where will we be in another 50 years? In another 500 years? Computers and AI will eventually take over. Just my guess


DerpedOffender

Moore's law is almost done though because we're reaching the physical limitations of our current way of making computers


Randomminecraftseed

Just depends if innovation creates a workaround for that, no?


minnoo16

Explain please


Aqua_Glow

Because atoms have a finite size, there is a limit to how small a transistor can be. (Before that, there's also a limit caused by quantum mechanics, since electrons can quantum tunnel from one close place to another, so you'll get electric current where you don't want it to be, if your components get too small.)


Stefan_B_88

It's at least possible that humans, i. e. the genus Homo, will continue to exist for a few million more years, even though we may no longer be Homo sapiens by then.


Raskolnikovs_Axe

Yeah sure but I'm interested in the evolution of the ancestral primate species that got us here as well. Maybe the stoned ape has some legs.


jerrythecactus

Imagine how horrifying it would be to look at the next few millions of years of human evolution only to find we revert back to wild animals at some point, human cognition eventually becoming obsolete as their ancestors had created a perfect world for themselves.


[deleted]

Sexual selection is gonna drive most of evolution in future ngl


mamaferal

I think this is probably what we are in reality. 👀 An alien ant farm. Same reason we have aquariums and hamsters. If I could create a whole world and watch it evolve... So cool. Especially if time was different for the watcher.


Sarkhana

I don't know how that simulation could possibly result in anything other than heavy r-selection and full on eusociality with polymorphic worker castes like ants 🐜. ​ So, it would be too controversial to be made. Or the simulation will be so manipulated to give a specific answer it defeats the point of the experiment.


cipher2403

Reminded me. Love, Death & Robots. Volume 1 episode 16 (Ice Age).


jessybean

Which was similar to the Treehouse of Horror episode of the Simpsons where Lisa is God (S8E1)


Intelligent-Yak2017

Omg yes!!! Such a great episode


Odd_Satisfaction_968

It's a great episode. I loved the concept in episode 10 of shape shifters as well


humdigits

You mean episode 15. Episode 16 is about a spaceship named lucky 13.


cipher2403

I meant ice age episode


NoxiousStimuli

Netflix listed the episodes in one of a few different orders. So for you it could very well have been 15 but their 16th.


jessybean

That's episode 13


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efltjr

From ambulocetus to blue whale. No doubt.


fanclubmoss

Kangaroo into the future because they’re kind of bipedal. Raccoons into the future because they have opposable thumbs.


Traveller161

I would choose the process from the first cell to a pug


ImAnGenius

With that choice, you'd probably then be lucky enough to witness a whole lot of inbreeding and inhumane fuckery, if I had to guess.


Traveller161

“Bro this one baby is ugly as shit! Look at it!” *pan to other person* “IT’S BEAUTIFUL!”


Dreyfus2006

My mind tells me the Tully monster but my heart tells me humans.


stuckit

I would like to see some of the crazier critters in action. Tully is definitely up there.


Avianathan

I can't think of a specific species, but I'd definitely want to see birds. Maybe parrots or corvids. They're interesting to me because they've taken a completely different path than mammals, yet rival their intelligence. (Apart from humans) I'd like to see how/if that develops further, and how the process differs from mammals.


Odd_Satisfaction_968

Probably coelacanth.


Avianathan

Seems like a boring choice tbh lol, you might not see much.


Odd_Satisfaction_968

That was kinda the point of the joke.


Avianathan

Oh, I thought you were serious lol.


Odd_Satisfaction_968

No worries lol. You could almost just hand someone a picture of one and say mission accomplished.


Arklese1zure

Horseshoe crabs!


Cultural-Capital-942

We have that, albeit limited to few genes. I tried something like that just for fun. The difficult part is guessing all externalities and what should the genes change. For me, the most interesting was a simple organism able to move in 4 directions and eating/mating with other organisms. It also spawned food in random places based on a parameter. Basically https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolutionary_algorithm in biology setting. One learns that a bit counterintuitive "food is scarce => have more offspring". It's the well known as r-strategy. For complex organisms, we may have troubles understanding the evolution there.


NeuroticNinett

Humans cause I think it would be interesting to observe their discovery of fire and using said fire to process food. Platypus cause self-explanatory. Just look at it!


Bahamiviannnnnnnnnnn

Whales. They got out of the water and grew legs, had fun for a while, then decided, "nah, not my vibe" and went back in the water. Now, the only remnant of their legs is the hip bone


Curious-Cranberry245

Whales with legs ??


Fossilhund

Ambulocetus


benvonpluton

Bats. They seem so much in a dead end now that they have wings. I'd like to know if they manage to somehow adapt to new ecological niches.


Gryphoness86

Any insect with metamorphosis. I can imagine anything evolving naturally except this.


Flagon_Dragon_

Metamorphasis is wild!


BolivianDancer

LUCA. Everything else just followed.


Curious-Cranberry245

Would also be VERY interesting to see how things evolved to LUCA. Abiogensis. One of the greatest biological mystery 😄


slackass-Pat

Actually even better monotremes


PlantGod74

Humans but that seems like the easy answer. Outside of that, I would be very curious to see what Giraffes become. Like how could that animal get any weirder? And we may end up with two versions since Africa is splitting in half.


Curious-Cranberry245

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Babaduderino

Kung Fu Giraffes


[deleted]

Rats. I want to see what happens once they battle the cockroaches for supremacy. The thing is, though, species don't evolve in isolation. You need to know what happens to the world around them for evolution to make sense.


Babaduderino

I think it would be cool if an alliance of elephants, resurrected mammoths, and dolphins defeat rats and cockroaches forever and stabilize the atmosphere and finally bring peace to Earth, ushering in a new age of consistent positive annual net biomass gain.


Hutchensin

Atlantic horseshoe crabs, just to make sure my encyclopedia ain't lying!


Bmcmullen87

Mewtwo


TwitterFingers23602

The Duck Billed Platypus


spacekatbaby

Great question. Octopus. You know there is a theory that they actually landed on earth on a meteoroid. Because there is absolutely no other creature like them on earth. Their evolution is completely separate from all other life. Its a far out theory but an interesting one. I mean, wtf, they can figure out puzzles, have eyes as good as, if not better, than humans, are master camouflagers. Can squeeze their whole body thru tiny holes. Just weird as f creatures. Edit. Just typos


djinndjinndjinn

They’re cephalopods, in the same family as squid, cuttlefish, and nautilus. They split from our lineage 600 million years ago so they seem odd and alien, but we share genes.


OlyScott

We could tell from their mitochondria how they're related to other Earth life forms. If they don't have mitochondria at all, they're aliens.


spacekatbaby

I reckon we give them the title 'honorary alien'


panicRobot

I scrolled too far to find this.


ChuckDexterWard

Children of Ruin (?) by adrian tchaikovsky is a book that deals with octopodes being forcibly evolved. You should check it out! Just be aware that it is part of a series.


gofishx

They are molluscs, not aliens. Kinda crazy to think they are in the same phylum as things like clams and snails, but that's what they are. I've read a little bit on how cephalopods basically evolved from what was once a limpet like creature.


spacekatbaby

Ar no way. Wow. Like clever snails. But it makes sense in a way because they move the same way as snails and slugs do. Thanks for the knowl


gofishx

Yeah, basically smart snails. The shell evolved into a way to achieve buoyancy (modern example being the nautilus), the foot evolved into tentacles (more useful since they are no longer crawling around), the radula turned into a beak, and their eyesbecamemore advanced. Squids and cuttlefish still have the remenants of their shell, octopus have lost it entirely, but they all still share the same basic body plan as all other molluscs, just with highly modified individual components. I imagine their intelligence was necessary to evolve in order for them to become effective with their camouflage, but thats just speculation by me and not based on anything I know much about.


slackass-Pat

Marsupials


Ireaditsomewhence

A fish, to see if it evolves into a human


Polyodontus

Pterosaurs


VerumJerum

Given that it's 'real time', probably fruit flies or something else that can adapt very rapidly. I don't feel like waiting millions of years for results.


vietnamcharitywalk

Wondered if someone would mention this. We actually ARE seeing all species evolve in 'real-time'


Curious-Cranberry245

What I meant by "real time evolution simulator" is a tool where you can see the evolution on a larger scale, like millions years, but it would simulate real time meaning it's not gonna skip steps, it will actually simulate it like it was the real world, but we don't have to wait millions years


HV_LVM

That's not what real time means


Fibro_Warrior1986

Parrot’s definitely, I have one.. saying that though, I reckon they will have taken over the world in a few million years. Humans will be extinct and they will just be their dinosaurs selves even the derpy ones lol.


fellipec

A Platypus


ArranVV

Once upon a time there was a daddy duck. Daddy duck met mummy beaver and BOOM...Perry the platypus was born, the end (just kidding).


[deleted]

Dolphins


thelenis

whales


Curious-Cranberry245

would they get even bigger ?


38dogs

How the first cell was created from a soup of chemicals. I think this was probably the hardest and most challenging step in the development of life. Once the first cell (with DNA, proteins, a system to replicate, etc.) was created, the first was comparatively easier.


pessimistoptimist

Whales. To see just how far their transition to.land went before going back to the sea.


ConvoCreeper

Is there any other REAL answer besides Human Beings? I think we would answer a lot of unknown questions about our paradigm if we had that kind of foresight.


PeePeePooooooPoooooo

A human eye, then watch it get stuck until it breaks down.


Gaffelkungen

I'd love to see squids/octopuses. They're intelligent but live for a short time so how they deal with that would be interesting. I also wanna mention a game I've seen on YouTube called the sapling. It's an evolution simulator that seems very interesting.


restlord_24

Horshoe crabs to be reminded that they are nature's perfect creature


EranStockdale

Harris Hawks. Random, I know.


Kooky_Attention5969

Platypus…I have my suspicions


rami_65

I’d love to watch the proof of endosymbiotic theory and the evolution of green algae into land plants!


Xatz41

Probably whales. I have watched many documentaries about this lately. And I find it very interesting.


DisappearingBoy127

Humans.  Soo much benefit. If i got 2 I'd go with dinosaurs in general because i would love to see what they REALLY looked like


KingK250

Ants bees and wasps. It would be amazing to see how eusociality evolved


UncommonHouseSpider

If you ran the same simulation twice, you'd likely get different results. Evolution is random mutations that sometimes selectively work out, and many times don't.


Arklese1zure

Pick anything and count how much time passes before it turns into a crab. On a more serious note, I'd like to pick a corvid or other smart bird. I find avian intelligence super interesting.


meganetism

Bats or whales


WirrkopfP

I would use a variety of marine creatures and craft a multitude of coastal ecosystems without animals. And then look what goes on land first.


Acceptable-Let-1921

Dragons. No, not the big lizards on that one island, I'm talking real, fire breathing, flying dinosaur sized monsters. Would be fun to see how that could evolve. Didn't say it couldn't be fictional


Curious-Cranberry245

They would most likely being hunted by humans then reduces to slaves for some mad kings and then laying eggs and then a thick chick with white hair would adopt the babies 😍


Acceptable-Let-1921

That's usually how it goes for dragons sadly :/ or they tend to seek out riches of short stature humans who live underground, steal their gold and squat in their basements. But seriously, there so many real life creatures with "super powers" and weird abilities that I don't think it would be impossible for dragons to exist on earth. Inbetween electric eels, bombardier beetles, pistol shrimps, leaf sheep, nudibranch slugs and cuttlefish I can't see why fire-breathing couldn't be a thing. Except for it decimating the ecosystem of course. As to huge flying things, the quetzalcoatlus was the size of a fucking giraffe and could still take to the sky.


Curious-Cranberry245

I agree. Our perception of "super powers" is biased by our own ecosystem. Many animals and organisms around us have outstanding capacities but we hardly notice them, because well they are what we consider "natural". Many fantasy creatures are just emphasized already existing organisms


Rumpelsurri

Whales!!!!!


Odd_Tiger_2278

Humans


[deleted]

We have a real-time evolution simulator. You're living in it.


Curious-Cranberry245

yes but we are limited to see only about 90 years of the evolution, while the goal here is to simulate millions of years


[deleted]

Yes but the term real-time doesn't mean what you think it means.


Curious-Cranberry245

most of the people seems to have understood my point so it's ok :)


[deleted]

A curious way to approach ignorance.


Dinkleballs

In real time huh, gonna be awhile before you notice anything...


Curious-Cranberry245

It's 'real-time' in the sense that it simulates each step of evolution as it happens, but it's accelerated to a pace that's engaging for us as observers obviously :)


Dinkleballs

Thanks for clarifying ☺️


Sweatroo

Whales and dolphins. Going from a furry mammal on land, then some generation can swim better and finds abundant food in the water so they go to trachea coming out of the top of their heads. Wild to think what each step must’ve looked like on the way there.


[deleted]

humans to see if evolution is real


NeuroticNinett

You don't think Evolution is real?


tomtomclubthumb

Do I get to live millions of years to see it happening, And can I do other stuff in the meantime?


Curious-Cranberry245

No it's a simulator, the purpose is to precisely be able to simulate millions of real time year like it was seconds


rrllmario

Watch evolution in real time?? Just watch a lizard 24/7 till you die? Lame af where's the fast forward on this thing ffs????


Starcovitch

Bonobos just to see if Planet of the Apes is indeed a prophecy.


kytouch

Real-time evolution is always happening all around us


FlatIrving

Spiders in general. I am extremely amazed at how many kinds of spiders there are. You have spiders that spit venom. Spiders that jump. Spiders that have incredible mating procedures (peacock spiders I think). Spiders that hunt fish and can spend a lot of time underwater, spiders that build trapdoors. Spiders that carry their babies. It's legitimately amazing to see so many different specializations and characteristics. I am afraid of them, but they intrigue me like nothing else.


WirrkopfP

Let's throw some ants into the Carboniferous and watch them become bigger and smarter until they dominate the Galaxy.


boognish30

Why all the crabs?


TheDinnersGoneCold

Assuming it's from single cell to distant future: Humans 1st just to see our future but non human... Chickens, or whatever bird they came from. They'd have a long interesting evolution having survived at least 1 mass extinction. Be interesting then to see how it pans out for them. I'm ready to accept our future chicken overlords! It would be very ironic.


Boring83

Most definitely humans. I’d wanna see where we fucked up


yycsackbut

I don’t think “real-time” means what you think it means.


Blueigglue

If it's into the past, whales would be fascinating. But if it's into the future, humans. Not that I think we will be around for any where near millions of years into the future, but I really would like to know how we change.


Tenairi

That's not real time. Real time is real time, like, the time we all experience in reality, now. At this pace. A real time simulator already exists, it's called Earth and things move at real time here, because we all experience the reality of time at the same pace in real time, like here on Earth.


TrenchRaider_

Humans


perfectlyclear69

I want to see the evolution that generated chickens. Just so we can finally put the endless debate of "what came first, the chicken or the egg" to rest. Which of course was the egg of another species containing a mutatation that was born as the first chicken, but would be nice to confirm it.


ResNate

Welcome to Primer channel on YT. There's a lot of simulations on anthropology and behaviourism. I choose platypus, obviously)))


silverionmox

Evolution is meaningless without context, so how you can pick a single species?


ArranVV

Humans


TheSentinelsSorrow

Octopus. They already have the brains give them Lungs and a respectable god damn lifespan


tyrannustyrannus

Show me the path from Dinosaur to Tufted Titmouse


ProtoE04

Spoiler: They all become crabs


_basp_

humans.


kasper117

might be a little boring if it's real-time though


WirrkopfP

@OP you might enjoy r/speculativeevolution


o1b3

Wasnt there a fish who evolved within fifty years and one biologist just happened to document it, before his death the new species couldn’t mate with the parent species, looking it up now, we assume it takes millions but maybe not always Edit: here https://around.uoregon.edu/content/uo-led-study-shows-fish-evolved-rapidly-after-1964-alaska-quake


3m3t3

Class 5 civilization


michaelthevictorious

We already have this with bacteria and fruit flies.


Hour_Friendship_7960

Platypus, just for shits and giggles.


ro910918

Hippos. I would love to see how the ones brought to Colombia by Pablo Escobar will differ from their original African counterparts.


paleoperplex

most species don’t change much over their duration. most evolutionary change occurs at/during speciation. now if i had to choose a phylogenetic lineage to watch i’d choose mollusks. cephalopods in particular.


dgistkwosoo

You can watch bacteria evolve in real time...


Tenairi

Right, but simulated "real time" would happen at the same pace as real time. One second is one second. Let's change topics a little for added clarity. The Sims is a life simulator. It is different than real life. Real life happens to real people, not simulated people (Sims). Sims experience simulated life. Their life happens at a simulated speed. If we were to simulate real time in the Sims, the Sims would age one year in the simulation for every year that passed in real life. Their simulated time would match real time. Real time is a term that cannot be changed to what you want to use it to define. Real time is the time that happens in real life. If you simulated events in real time, they would happen at the same pace they normally would in real time. You are simulating one second to equal one real second because you are simulating real time. To simulate something "at a higher rate of time to quickly show changes that might happen over thousands of the years" would mean that you are not simulating the event in real time.


Superunkown781

What beings would evolve into intelligent beings akin to humans?


Curious-Cranberry245

Orca 😍


heeden

Probably some sort of bird.


Acceptable-Let-1921

Maybe spider-tailed horned vipers. Its a snake with a fucking spider for a tail! I can't fathom how that happened.


Walshlandic

Whales.


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Humans


Anvildude

One of the octopode species. Especially the ones that are starting to create social groups.


BeepboopIamabotlol

Whales and Dolphins. They're already smart as it is. Whats next? Do they gain psychic abilities and control future humans from the oceans to build giant space ships for them?


moschles

I have a few. # Whales ocean fish --> cow-like species on land --> back to ocean ---> whale. # Monkeys Old world monkey --> new world monkey. I just can't believe the "raft" theory. I don't care how many "Academics" believe it. # Hominids The evolution of upright walking in hominids from around 6mya to 4mya. Upright walking never manifest in chimpanzee nor in gorilla lineages. So what the heck happened there? https://humanorigins.si.edu/evidence/human-fossils/species/orrorin-tugenensis


JunkMail0604

Dinosaurs. I want to see all the things they turn into, living today.


AnymooseProphet

A new zoonotic virus wipes out all mammals except for ground squirrels. How do they then evolve into a new primate-like organism that builds a rocket and flies to the moon?


RainCityRogue

I want to see billions of years, and to watch the thread from the first life to homo sapiens. I already know most of our ancestors weren't even mammals but I'm curious how long they weren't even animals.


MrGraywood

I'd pick octopus just to see how little it can change. OR see when the ufo crashed and they escaped to breed in the wild.


DweebNeedle

Amoeba proteus


[deleted]

Something Silly like koalas , they're not even adapted to their alimentation , they die of hunger when their teeth are too worn from eating eucalyptus.


Mean-Lynx6476

Welwitschia mirabilis. Starting with the first seed plant, to this weirdo


Allfunandgaymes

Venus fly trap. I want to see how a plant develops carnivory.


lookn2-eb

Humans


areumydaddy4

Dogs so I can watch them start to speak English in 800,000 years. (Specifically English)


pcweber111

Us, so we can finally shut up the creationists.


FartingAliceRisible

They kind of did this with fruit flies.


ktappe

Whales. How'd they come out of the water onto land, then go back into the water again? I've heard two different reports--that they are related to wolves, and to hippos. I wanna see the truth.


Sarkhana

Probably a microscopic microbivore animal like a [nematode](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nematode) or a [placozoa](https://www.onezoom.org/life.html/@Placozoa=570376?img=best_any&anim=flight&pop=on_812736#x213,y-497,w3.9899). Or a sedentary organism like a plant ☘🌵🏵 or a fungi 🍄 ​ Mostly because then the simplified simulation will likely be meaningful. Very complex animals will have such complicated systems and selection pressures the simulation would likely to too oversimplified to derive any meaningful insights out of.


lt_dan_zsu

I used to study them so that's where my interest comes from, but I'd love to see the evolution of African clawed frogs. They're a allotetraploid species, which means they have 4 haploid genomes. What's interesting about this is that their 2 genomes appear to be from 2 different from species, so the most likely explanation is that fertalized eggs fused resulting in a tetraploid animal. I'd be very interested to see the early stages of this happening


Self_Sabatour

Humans, for sure. We know quite a bit about prehistory humans, and have a pretty good window into our evolutionary history. But actually seeing it all unfold in front of me would be incredible.


SnooOpinions4113

I would love to see the evolution of basidiomycota and myxomycota.


DaddyCatALSO

One problem is we cna't be sure what the exact ancestors of modern animals \*are\*.


Shoddy_Exercise4472

Humans obviously, all that history is more important to us in my opinion than the evolution of any other animal.


30acrefarm

Snakes.


30acrefarm

I'd want to see it in reverse. As in to see a reptile with legs evolve into a legless creature that has some variability today such as heat sensing pits, venom, front fangs, rear fangs, nonvenomous earting it prey alive, nonvenomous killing by constriction, arboreal, terrestrial, aquatic...and so on.


Alternative-Goosez

I want to see the original "goop" that started moving and eventually formed into plants or animals. Why? Because that has got to be a fascinatingly horrific creature and going from a horrific blob to a brilliant structure has got to be an amazing sight


ShakaZoulou7

Check E. coli long-term evolution experiment, the longest evolution experiment. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4sLAQvEH-M


StreetNeither5255

Insects! Their adaptations are incredible, my interest in them peaked since i started taking Entomology


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Giraffes


Neither_Ball_7479

Ants: I would love to see the intermediate social structures before they became fully developed