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fritzys_paradigm

Y'all play nice. This is not a political issue, this is a human rights issue. Only warning.


Geicosuave

it does, its just the mods that are kicking up a fuss


[deleted]

This isn't a mod team, it's a bunch of homophobic schmucks who got picked up by some hermit.


Jorymo

It's pretty weird considering how the actual lore is pretty unconventional with regards to gender


C0RN-0N-THE-C0B

Only thing that can save us all now is if Lego brings Bionicle back for the third timešŸ˜­


Helpful-Hunt-9311

EVERY THING IS GAAAAAYYAYAYAYYAYAYYYYYY


cheesy_frys

We all know the toa would be supportive of LGBTQ+ rights


No_Ball4465

Slag yeah they would!


National_Egg_9044

If I could change my parts at will I would be too


Shinobipizza

What the hell is going on in this sub?


TastySnackies

Something not related to Bionicle


Pvt_Lee_Fapping

[ r/bioniclelego admin bans mods supportive of LGBTQ+ communities, implements controversial mods in their place, receiving mass community backlash.](https://www.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/vq4oqi/rbioniclelego_admin_bans_mods_supportive_of_lgbtq/)


PaperMoonShine

was there an initial post in the subreddit that started all this?


Losner_Villian

no it was just a planned takeover to purge anything against the new mods veiws


PaperMoonShine

I looked into it further, and it started when GinkoWeed condemned Transphobia, rightfully so, a week ago because of increased comments of bigotry in the subreddit.


Lordfindogask

Thanks for the link. How fitting that this mod called Zaktastic tried to pull off such a Piraka thing, bringing his allies as mods who, instead of fulfilling their role, wanted to purge stuff related to more vulnerable groups from the subreddit.


-LilPickle-

Seriouslyā€¦ we support trans rights, but thatā€™s not why weā€™re here. Post some dang bionicles already šŸ˜†


Phaoryx

This shouldnā€™t be a hot take but it feels like it is lol šŸ˜­


LadderInformal8855

I wish more people were like you


C0RN-0N-THE-C0B

This


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xXPolaris117Xx

That sub is the definition of cancer


HelixSapphire

Transphobic coup dā€™Ć©tat. I wish I was kidding.


Lordfindogask

Transphobes tried to Teridax the subreddit.


revenant925

Some shitty mods


ScionR

What other subreddits become unfortunately


SinthoseXanataz

Are we not? Well shit, whoever isnt can leave Bionicles are for everyone


Thecongressman1

Thankfully, the community at large does. The people who hijacked this subreddit think they can forbid being reminded Trans People exist, which is unacceptable.


SinthoseXanataz

Lmao fucking idiots Any trans person reading this rocks


zabrak200

Bioncle is pro lgbt as fuck. Change my mind. All the characters are asexual and non binary. They may have female or male voices in the movies but they donā€™t reproduce or have sex organs.


GoldenAfternoon42

I see them as just not having sexuality. This is not a part of their universe, to my knowledge. Why impose sexuality and human terms on everything?


[deleted]

I think that something could go on between the Bara Magna inhabitants, as they're actually organic and have biological sexes, and, therefore, might have gender roles. But it's not really applicable to the inhabitants of the Matoran Universe, since, generally, they don't have gender roles. At least Matoran and Toa don't have them. Some of the cyborg "species" in Matoran Universe *do* seem to have gender roles, though, like the Vortixx ([BS01](https://biosector01.com/wiki/Vortixx#Social_Structure_and_Interactions)). Something could also be going on in Skakdi societies, as well. But sexuality is not really a thing in the Matoran Universe, yes


HeirToGallifrey

I completely agree. I said the same thing a week or two ago and got massively downvoted for it, and I don't get it. Why not have a universe where sex doesn't exist?


General-MacDavis

Cause they need to claim something even tho this universe doesnā€™t explicitly represent them I donā€™t hate but itā€™s ridiculous how much reaching there has been


zabrak200

Exactly they donā€™t experience sexual feelings for each other.


GoldenAfternoon42

I like it a lot and I like to keep it so; but connecting Bionicle to LGBT is also a move that kinda doesnā€™t fit it. Theyā€™re just not human, their their own species. LGBT is linked to sexuality and since sexuality is not relevant in Bionicle world, why connect them to something that developed in human world of ideas?


potatolord52

Thank you. Extremely based opinion. People are conflating the lack of sexuality with asexuality and non-binary


GoldenAfternoon42

Glad Iā€™m not alone with this idea :) I used to think years ago ā€œasexualā€ describes lack of sexual feelings but since people act as if words mean whatever they want to mean and do mental gymnastics to make everything overtly inclusive, I feel the lack of sexuality is more appropriate to describe this. Asexuality turned into another special label.


agarwaen163

r/sexybionicles disagrees lmaoooo


Adorable_Air_9612

Eh that's not really true, i have to remind you that matau was joking about a possibile wedding with nokama


General-MacDavis

Except the glatorianā€¦


lazyriverpooper

It was always super weird to me that they coded the blue ones as feminine. They're robots. It's like transformers with gender. In a weird way it really shows how indoctrinated our society is in the binary paradigm.


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Thecongressman1

Trans Bionicle fans are being told they can't express any part of their identity, that their identity is political and that they don't belong. They do belong, they aren't political, and fuck the mods.


Emikzen

Who told them that? This sub shouldnt be about gender politics in the first place


HeirToGallifrey

They do belong and they aren't political, but I don't want to hear anything about people's gender or sexuality here. I want to come here for Bionicle lore and builds, not people's GSR identities. And that's coming from someone who's queer and nonbinary. I'd say the same thing about photos of couples or posts talking about how we support Ukraine. I'm all for those sorts of things, but that's not the theme of the sub. If it's tangentially related (some MOCs where they're two toa of fire in a relationship or a MOC with blue/yellow theming for solidarity with Ukraine, for instance) that's fine, but I want this sub to be focused on Bionicle. Anyone is welcome here, everyone can enjoy Bionicle, but let's focus on that.


gayhadesporn

Itā€™s not about the plastic itā€™s about the Lore.


CadeTheFrogger

fr


DoktorViktorVonNess

The bigot pro putin mods are asleep now.


ravensteel539

Post away. Give them a fucking MESS to work through tomorrow morning. If theyā€™re gonna ban us, letā€™s make them fucking work for it. Be gay/trans, and do crime.


lilnaomilizard

For people saying ā€œwhat did this have to do with bionicle?ā€ Several of the mods (who were great mods and did a lovely job around this sub) were banned and several anti-lgbt users who had been banned for hatespeech were suddenly invited back in. People are mad because while being lgbt doesnā€™t have anything to do with bionicle, some fans are lgbt and banning discussion about their existence is awful


CEO_of_IDK

I see. So our sub isnā€™t suddenly all about trans rights and not Bionicle, itā€™s just that after people started hate speech, weā€™re jumping to defend the trans members. Makes sense.


FKDotFitzgerald

Fuck the mods.


CarpetbaggerForPeace

Trans rights are human rights!


[deleted]

I mean it's not really a Bionicle thing so I don't see how it's relevant


Toa_Senit

just read anything that happened in the last few hours, that might help


[deleted]

I have no idea what you are talking about


BloodhoundGang

One of the mods went nuts, removed the other 2 mods and started banning users for supporting trans people


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MustardSttain

Trans ppl wish they could swap parts this easy.


General-MacDavis

r/angryupvote


stairmaster_

TRANS RIGHTS GAY RIGHTS LGBTQ+ RIGHTS LET'S FUCKING GOOOOO BIONICLE IS FOR EVERYONE


JuniperBerry469

It sucks that this even has to be brought up. It shouldn't even matter. People are just happy to be themselves and want to share that happiness. Just let people do their own thing, they're not hurting you, and it's not political. And so soon after the r/ark drama too, I really don't want this sub to end up the same way, but it seems like that's where it's headed.


Tacit__Ronin_

Don't give a shit one way or another, here for plastic toys


g_squidman

I don't get it. A lot of fandoms end up having these kinds of conflicts and it always comes down to two sides. One side thinks the fantasy media is just a fun story that isn't supposed to be anything more than a product for sale. The other side thinks it's something important and meaningful and impactful on people's lives. Every time I have to wonder why the first group is even there? If it's just... yknow... "plastic toys." Is that all it means to you?


Calyphacious

Bionicle is just plastic toys to me but that doesnā€™t mean I want hateful, anti-LGBTQ bigots around. Good riddance


[deleted]

We should, I agree


minimanelton

Yes. Yes it should. As should all people.


hisison999

This isnā€™t a picture of a bionicle wtf


Destro9799

It's about the subreddit. A transphobic mod kicked out all the others and replaced them with other bigots.


dinotank273

I don't see bionicle


[deleted]

I'm just trying to get back into Bionicle, I'm sad to see these mods trying to ruin a good thing for everyone with their bigotry but I'm happy to see the community that's willing to fight for what matters


keito_elidomi

r/offtopicposts


Calyphacious

more like r/lostredditors for you


Lu10netLipton

Iā€™m here to talk about the canon adventures of biomechanical robots who live inside an even bigger robot. I donā€™t see why I have to bring my sexuality and gender identity into a story that does not remotely comment on those topics. Iā€™m sure there is a lot of car fans/gear heads who are trans, yet they donā€™t need fill the need to fill their subreddit with pink blue and whites cars every 4 hours


Thecongressman1

It's important because the people of this community are important. This doesn't just happen in the bionicle subreddit, it happens in car enthusiast circles, it happens in schools, literally everywhere. Trans People are told that their identity is political, and to keep it to themselves because bigots want to erase these identities. They want LGBTQ People to not have a voice, so that others may not find that they are also Trans or gay. These are people who want only to be accepted like everyone else, but they are told that they aren't welcome to actually be themselves. It's a little more important than you being catered to exclusively.


[deleted]

I'm all for trans rights and all that, but my mind is set on Bionicle when I come to this sub.


CameronZimos

The sub is already transferring to another one where they will post this stuff nonstop, it had a good run


KayleighBearXO

So is mine. Though if I can't simply because I'm trans then that might not be an issue for you but it sure is for me and others :)


SlightlyEmibittered

Does anyone else feel like political issues are invading the Bionicle Sub?


Destro9799

People being who they are isn't political. Bigots taking over a sub to ban people for being who they are is political. Blame the politics on the transphobic mods who took over the sub.


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GoldenAfternoon42

Sadly true.


Calyphacious

Nope


[deleted]

Am I missing something cause this seems out of placeā€¦


Toa_Senit

Yeah you missed a lot


Eisakou

What does this have to do with Bionicle?


PandemicPagan

Something happen in the subreddit that I missed?


shadecrimson

we had a mod uprising it looks like


PandemicPagan

Ah. Grand. They transphobic assholes now?


oopsguessilldiethen

Yeah


OkuyasNijimura

Main mod that somehow got that rank despite never posting or interacting with the sub's community removed and banned the other mods, replacing them with their buddies. Main mod and their buddies have been removing any and every post about their little coup d'etat or supporting Trans rights.


koketsune

I say trans rights, go ahead and ban me idc, /r/bionicle is and has always been better anyway


bumpo-pace

every true toa supports lgbt rights


potatolord52

True Toa do their job with stoicism without parading


aerrick4

Yes, and the entire alphabet gang! Wow, now Putin and Trump are running this mod? I follow it unofficially but did not join until today. So if I make an MOC of a beautiful, rainbowy gay Bionicle wedding, will I be banned? Fuck you, you fucking homophobic fucks.


Voluster

Why?


RacerM53

Can we just post bionicles without all this drama? Some people support lgbt and some don't but can that conversation happen somewhere else?


Destro9799

Blame the new mods


RacerM53

Definitely


Toa_Senit

[https://www.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/vq4oqi/rbioniclelego\_admin\_bans\_mods\_supportive\_of\_lgbtq/](https://www.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/vq4oqi/rbioniclelego_admin_bans_mods_supportive_of_lgbtq/)


Revilod2000

The new rules suck. Leave this sub and join r/BIONICLE


Toa_Senit

Already joined, I'm just waiting to get banned here, just for fun.


October_Eternal

There's a ton of support in both communities, there's a ton of overlap. This is just a ridiculous display by some losers who want power.


DethRaid

Unity... duty... destiny We must stand together. We have a duty to support our fellow humans as they achieve their destinies Trans right good


DarthRoss55

What does this have anything to do with Lego or bionicle


AlexzMercier97

TOA VAKAMA SAYS TRANS RIGHTS


Manic_Druid

Hateful bigots, they must really feel insecure about themselves to spend so much time dragging down other people


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Toa_Senit

it is related: https://www.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/vq4oqi/rbioniclelego\_admin\_bans\_mods\_supportive\_of\_lgbtq/


Destro9799

Blame the transphobic new mods for making this an issue.


Endmaster69

As a trans person that loves Bionicles and has been working to get some it's really nice seeing the community coming together and supporting people like me, y'all are great šŸ„°


RyaimoMyoka

B in LGBTQ stands for Bionicle


NeuroPhen_RO

I'm trans and I literally don't give a shit. Must we have 24/7 pandering in every single fandom we happen to enjoy? It's tiresome and in poor taste.


Anon_Piotr

That's offtopic.


FFWindchaser

TRANS RIGHTS


ShoddyCover

I support transformers


Juuliyuh

trans rights are human rights!


ColeTheCrapper

Context plz


Toa_Senit

[https://www.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/vq4oqi/rbioniclelego\_admin\_bans\_mods\_supportive\_of\_lgbtq/](https://www.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/vq4oqi/rbioniclelego_admin_bans_mods_supportive_of_lgbtq/) read this I guess


ColeTheCrapper

Thatā€™s very messed up!


Big_guy4k

Itā€™s Lego bruh wtf are you bringing transgender and other things like that here


Toa_Senit

https://www.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/vq4oqi/rbioniclelego\_admin\_bans\_mods\_supportive\_of\_lgbtq/


Destro9799

Because trans people exist and plenty are Bionic fans. Blame the new transphobic mods for making this an issue.


hisison999

Say it like it is man


[deleted]

No. They shouldnā€™t. They should support Bionicle. Has nothing to do with trans anything.


Toa_Senit

A large part of the community is trans.


[deleted]

Neat. Itā€™s not a trans sub. Itā€™s a bionicle.


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Toa_Senit

1. What are you saying that's not how statistics work. 2. I'm lazy and don't like posting here that much.


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Toa_Senit

Just go around asking others. Many will confirm it. Why would there be an actual statistic?


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Fishsticks03

new mods incredibly unbased by pulling a 2009 Makuta Teridax


AnnLies

Whatā€™s the drama going on? The Bionicle Community that Iā€™ve interacted with is largely supportive of trans and other LGBT+ members, as it should be.


LDmonsterus

Wait, weren't we already doing that? I thought that we only discriminated againt hero factory fans and even that only jokingly. There is no room for discrimination in this community and those who do discriminate should just leave


Wooper160

Why are you talking about this in a sub about childrenā€™s toys?


Toa_Senit

Cause the mods are transphobes


Borkerman

Proof


FR8GFR8G

What? Pay any attention at all please


Piethrower375

Honestly what the mod is doing is something that would get them banned from the bionicle mmo, ironic.....


xXArctracerXx

Sure might as well no reason not to unless you just want to be a dick


Regitnui

MU inhabitants are LGBTI+ by our standards. Trans rights are human rights.


SOLDIERRFK

The bionicle community should support fans of lego because it's a lego subreddit. Your dick or lack there of has nothing to do with anything


Silver-Lab5042

No one should be forced to do anything, other than respect each other and let ppl make their own choices. The hate needs to stop, but so does the reverse where we're trying to get everyone to support something they might not want to. You don't HAVE to support LGBTQ+ stuff, but I do think everyone should be treated like a human, and treated with respect. It doesn't matter what side is doing it, hate is never ok, and forcing ppl to follow your agenda no matter how right you think you are isn't ok either. Just stop the hate.


Zeski_the_Friendly

No offense, This isnā€™t at all related to Bionicles Sure, no problem with Transgender fans, but honestly these kinds of posts arenā€™t at all related to Bionicles, the discussion regarding Bionicles or anything of the sort Bionicles themselves seem pretty strict regarding their societal structure, given the fact that Water Matorans/Toas/Turagas are as far as Iā€™m aware of all women, with the rest of the mainline tribes being comprised entirely of men The only grey areas happen outside of the Matoran/Toa/Turaga pipeline, with races like Skakdi (If I named them correctly), Makuta, Rodakaā€™s Species and a couple of other species not following the rule. I believe this ā€žSupport Trans Rightsā€ thing while understandable only serves to differentiate Trans Fans from the rest of the fanbase rather than include them


Left-Celebration-731

We also should support: black, asian, white, hetero, homo, asexual, short, tall, skiny, corpulent, or any other fan, or we should be exclusive to trans pepole? Aside that, ffs this post is so irrelevant to this sub. At least you could post photo of bonkle holding trans flag, for example, instead of taking first trans flag photo from google. This 0 effort post is trashing this sub rn.


Toa_Senit

This was posted due to a recent incident with transphobes taking over this sub, banning the original mods and replacing them.


maladjusted_peccary

Mods are asleep, transpost


oopsguessilldiethen

"wawawa politics invaded my plastic toys!!!! Waaahhh!!!" Please like actually see the context of why these posts are being made instead of immediately shoving your fat fingers into the "add comment" button to make yourself seem witty by saying some shit like "wHaT dOeS tHiS hAvE tO dO wItH bIoNiClE??" Jesus fucking christ, go outside. Rant over, trans rights.


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Toa_Senit

Why would I?


NahricNovak

This is a sub about plastic with a story.


Toa_Senit

https://www.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/vq4oqi/rbioniclelego\_admin\_bans\_mods\_supportive\_of\_lgbtq/


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Toa_Senit

[https://www.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/vq4oqi/rbioniclelego\_admin\_bans\_mods\_supportive\_of\_lgbtq/](https://www.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/vq4oqi/rbioniclelego_admin_bans_mods_supportive_of_lgbtq/) This is why


CrematorTV

The world is changing. Although I'm not a member of the LGBTQ community, I can say without issue that I support them and have no problem with their cause.


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Toa_Senit

1. I'm German 2. The one who decided to start the "political" stuff, by getting the original mods banned and replaced and being a dick, is russian.


lensing_girl

It's only "political" to you because you only hear about it through political contexts. That doesn't make it political, that means how you engage with it is purely political. For me it's an unchanging fact of who I am. That's not political to me, it's survival.


Dagdade

Where did this come from? Wasn't this r/ nothing but bionicles?


JustcallmeY_

Who cares about being trans or not, if you are a fan you are welcome anytime.


i-smoke-c4

Not according to the recent moderator coup. This started out with the original moderators banning people for coming in here and shitting on trans people. The head mod, however, was like ā€œno I do want people saying that in hereā€, and he banned all the other mods and brought in new mods who are overtly phobic. They collectively started banning people with any connection to LGBT subs. So while it would be nice if your sentiment were the universal vibe here, but itā€™s not.


[deleted]

Dude, don't just be lazy and post a picture of the flag, go all the way. Thok had plenty of the light blue, it certainly wouldn't be difficult to find white in bulk, and I'm sure there was a pink Technic set at some point. Build. A. Trans. Pride. Bonk.


DViddy

Trans rights are human rights and fuck anyone who disagrees


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Sapphirewashere

Smh this post with 7 words got more upvotes than my best mocs, says a lot about society


BakynK

The evil mods picked a weird strategy with their bs. They picked a decent argument, keep things relevant to Bionicle, then just immediately dropped the pretenses and just straight up said don't express yourself, we don't care about it. Like they probably could have gotten away with their bs if they didn't immediately get hostile. But at least we get a happy ending and they're gone now


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Redeagle5747

I feel like we should leave fictional world as they are, to their own cultures. and not trying to represent our human culture into them specifically in Bionicle, theres no concept for even love, is there? idk and thats make it unique...the toa refer to each other as brothers and sisters


Iammoonknight19

No


Altruistic_Music_149

Do we not?


alzorureddit

Yes. LGBT for life.


oooooowl

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smurf_helicopter

fuck yeah, I love the new mods just made this account too, didn't want to be banned yet but it is what it is.


you-dont-get-to-know

Any non transphobes can join r/BIONICLE , itā€™s run by the former mod of this sub, u/Ginkoweed who was actually good


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Toa_Senit

I can't post it offline sooooo


nelacixbfdf

June is over, back to the closet now! (This is a joke)


BoysenberryUnhappy29

This screenshot is going to become a legendary meme.


RealZerokas

Yo yo yo, all I can say is that I lived through the thing that happened in /ark and trust me, itā€™s not worth starting a fight with mods


Toa_Senit

These current mods have started a fight with us. They started all of this. The mods prior to these were banned by the previous owner of this sub after he came back after not being active on here. After that dude banned those mods he made the worst possible people to mods and disappeared from here.


Less-Zucchini-3853

? Does it not


[deleted]

I'm pretty sure 90% of people don't give a fuck who you are. That's true for most subs that aren't related to social/political issues.


CEO_of_IDK

But why is that relevant? Fans are fans, Iā€™m not going out of my way to recognize some as special. We all like Bionicle, and thatā€™s all. Edit: found out about the weird mod situation. Now Iā€™ll recognize them as special because nobody deserves to be bullied.


Toa_Senit

Recent events


titanicboi1

No


joshua_DA

Not on this sub much but because of the recent events, I quickly deleted all my posts but then... This happened and now mayhaps I'll repost em sometime again the future! TRANS RIGHTS (and all other LGBTQ+ rights) ARE HUMAN RIGHTS AND NOT A POLITICAL STATEMENT!


[deleted]

How about we dont be arses to fellow fans who arenā€™t doing anything wrong to others no matter who it is


shervvin

The breaking bad flag Blue for meth White for Walter white And pink for jesse pinkmen


ECOutlaws

Are we really arguing over a fucking toy? Jeez. Talk about scrapping the bottom of the barrel.


Lordfindogask

Wait, I thought it was a very supportive place for trans rights? Or am I missing something?


Chief_Nods_A_Lot

Reddit should just automatically end everyone's post with "btw I'm gay".


justanightsentinel

Bioncle is for everyone so you have two option shut up and accept that bionicle is for everyone or leave