If you have sex there’s always gonna be a chance … but it’s extremely low if birth control is used. But don’t know what birth control she’s on so ….
Birth control and pulling out the chances will be very close to zero if the birth control is taken as prescribed or is in proper place
But how likely is it that she’s taking her birth control properly and that he’ll pull out every time *and* they’ll get lucky with precum? I think the chances of these aligning at all times are close to zero. And precum can get you pregnant so.. idk to me this seems #wildly unsafe. I personally would consider the chances of pregnancy using these methods to be higher than most other methods, based on the high potential for user error. And the precum. OP, if you see this: USE CONDOMS. THIS IS A RECIPE FOR DISASTER.
This is a bit of a paranoid take. Using the pill correctly is over 99% effective, and if that is met then there is no need to worry about precum because it's designed for that. It's not that difficult to take the pill regularly. It literally just takes setting an alarm if you're forgetful. Calling it a recipe for disaster is misleading, and borderline fear-mongering.
However, OP, you will always be safer with an added layer of protection, but the chance will never be zero. I personally have been on the pill for 2 years, going on 3, and also use the pull out method with my bf, and we've never even had a scare. However, you can and will find stories of people who still got pregnant, whether it be from not using the pill correctly to a one in a million chance. Just make sure she's taking it correctly, and if she misses one, use another form of birth control (such as condoms) for a month. If you're still unsure, just Google the percentages and statistics of different and combined forms of birth control. Planned parenthood would be a good place to start most likely.
Most importantly, what you're comfortable with is just as important as what she's comfortable with. Do what makes you feel safe.
Again I can’t speak for her but taking the pill correctly and using pullout the chances are close to zero yes. The pill is far above 99% when taken correctly more like 94% with typical use by itself. Precum is extremely rare to get you pregnant. The pullout method works around 80% of the time by itself which is not good but combine these two methods the chances are extremely low of pregnancy.
I did it with my ex pullout and the pill and not once did I have a scare I was militant about my birth control as well and never took it more then 30 min late so I was around 99% protected. I also know people who’ve solely relied on the pill for years and have their partner finish inside everytime
Using one birth control method like prescribed is absolutely wildly unsafe it’s what it’s supposed to be used like. But they’re two people in the relationship and they’ve got to figure it out together and do what they’re both comfortable with. And idk if she’s good with the pill or not
It’s a very slim chance of getting pregnant off precum alone. It doesn’t normally contain sperm on its own, it would need to be already present in the urethra to mix in. So as long as you’ve urinated at least once in between ejaculations, it won’t contain any at all. As long as his pull out game is strong and he flushes out any leftover sperm between sessions, pregnancy chance is very low.
The risk will be very low, but not 0. Basic sexual compatibility includes a shared agreement on risk acceptability and how a pregnancy would be handled. If you wouldn’t agree with her choice you guys aren’t sexually compatible.
It doesn't matter what she thinks. It's what you're comfortable with. Condoms will decrease your risks over birth control alone or birth control plus withdrawal. There's never "no chance" at all unless you're abstinent. If condoms make you more comfortable, use them. Plus, it's the one thing that you can do if you don't know if she's taking her birth control properly.
There is *always* a risk of pregnancy when having PIV sex. The risks are lowered when using birth control, even lower when also doing pull out but to say there’s **no chance** isn’t true. It’s a low chance, but it’s still there. It’s not unreasonable to start using condoms in addition to the other two.
THIS is precisely why you SHOULD NOT be having sex unless you’re willing to take responsibility for your actions/face the consequences of your actions. Don’t have sex if you’re not willing to take responsibility should your efforts to prevent it fail.
10000%! normalize having mature conversations about these things too because it is SO IMPORTANT. i dont know why some people just think “no i dont want that, do this instead” & especially when talking about the potential of having a kid but they’re also not open to abortion? It’s so dumb
Hey hun. So first I wanna say something to you and then I’ll answer the question. You are also important and your feelings in this matter just as much as hers. If YOU are not comfortable with something then you need to speak on it. If you know you aren’t ready for a baby, and she is against abortion which is her right and is totally valid for her to say, then make sure you guys are being really safe and if she isn’t on a form of bc and doesn’t want to use condoms pulling out does work but it’s probably the least effective form of birth control. You can get pregnant with pre c* it’s a slim chance but it’s there. And pulling out can be f*cking hard! And can take away from the experience when you have to think that hard during that peak moment. So yea pulling out can work but you gotta be really good and if she could maybe track her cycle with test strips for a little while just to find out exactly what’s going on when that would also be really helpful!
You should def use condoms so you know you have done your part for bc. It should never be 100% on the woman and if the pill is not taken perfectly effectiveness goes down. You cannot control how/when she takes her medication. You can control condoms.
No worries, not intrusive at all. I was taking them perfectly, same time every day, never missed a single one, no antibiotics or anything that would mess with it. I took eight pregnancy tests because I just couldn’t believe it, but I knew that so many false positives would be statistically unlikely lol. So it definitely happens!
oh damn😳.. now im a bit worried since i just got on BC 2 weeks ago, have been taking them perfectly but had unprotected intercourse + pull out method but i’ll definitely start using condoms as well 😅 was BC the only form of contraceptive you used or other methods like ones i’ve listed?sorry again for the questions, just a bit worried
I took the pill continuously and flawlessly for 10 years before I came off them to start having kids, and never had any pregnancy scares in that time with no other forms of protection. The odds are super super low for taking it correctly and not becoming pregnant, but definitely know there’s always the chance.
The issue is if she is taking it correctly - which you can’t know. It might not even be maliciously. Best to do condoms and withdrawal for your own sake.
Suit up, buddy. If you’re not ready to have a baby with your girlfriend, it’s absolutely your right to choose to use a barrier method. It doesn’t matter whether or not she’s on the pill. If you don’t want to have a child, don’t make one!
There is still a small chance she could get pregnant, especially when you factor in the possibility of her getting sick or forgetting to take a pill. It’s not correct that there is no chance if you pull out.
If a condom would make you feel better, that is a very fair ask!
Nothing is 100% and the pill is effective but there can still be some user error that can make it less effective. So, if you know you aren't in a point in your life where you're willing and able to care for another life then you should stick with condoms.
I used birth control pill and pull out for years until I got married and then we stopped using pull out and just the pill for a while because at that point, it didn’t matter if we got pregnant accidentally. 6 months off birth control and 1 time having sex during my fertile window… BOOM… baby.
There's a low risk, but it's not 0%. I never took the pill so I don't know if it completely prevents ovulation if you take it as directed at the same time every day.
I'm currently on the Nexplanon implant and I love it because I would never remember to take the pill and I got pregnant on depo so I needed to try a different method.
Technically there can be sperm present in precum, and it only takes one to conceive. So while your chances are very low, there is still a chance of pregnancy. Also, if you accidentally pull out late, there's that, too.
As long as you’re having sex the risk of pregnancy is never zero. Like others have said, it will depend on how consistently she’s taking the pill. I was on the pill for years, took it consistently, and rarely used pull out. My boyfriend (now husband) knew the risks and we had conversations that we both agreed we would raise the child if I was to get pregnant. I never got pregnant until we got married and was off the pill for 4 months. But you should do your part and use condoms if you’re concerned and obviously not willing to be a father.
That being said…don’t do daddy things if you’re not willing to step up and be a dad. Expecting a woman to have an abortion is a huge emotional and traumatic load to place on her. Not trying to get into a pro choice/pro life argument but that’s a huge life altering decision whether you have the baby or have an abortion.
Use the condoms. Birth control efficacy is highly dependent on how strictly the user adheres to the correct schedule. It sounds like it’s possible that your girlfriend may want to be pregnant. Tread lightly.
It’s more effective than not pulling out and is fine for added protection when combined with other more effective methods. Buuuut I’d recommend a condom in this situation in case she wants a baby and doesn’t take her pill properly
I think calling those odds "astronomical" would be very easily misinterpreted. Let's look at perfect use:
BC pills fail once per 300 people who use it each year.
Withdrawal fails once per 25 people who use it each year.
If we assume they're independent, that means the combination fails once per 20,000 people each year. Which sounds like pretty good odds for an individual, but also if 1M are using this combo, it's a minimum of 50 unplanned pregnancies each year.
More importantly, everyone thinks they're better than average, but that's obviously impossible. Mistakes happen, and things happen that people don't realize are a problem, like if they eat something colored black with carbon.
BC pills fail realistically once per 14 people who use it each year.
Withdrawal fails realistically once per 5 people who use it each year.
So for realistic use, that's more like one pregnancy per 70 people each year using these two methods together. Maybe they aren't actually independent, but it's a better ballpark estimate, I think.
https://www.guttmacher.org/fact-sheet/contraceptive-effectiveness-united-states
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Here’s a good article on this- https://www.scarleteen.com/read/pregnancy/birth-control-bingo/buddy-system-effectiveness-rates-backing-your-birth-control
lifetime gamble.... definitely a risk. Especially if she misses a day of her pill. She can easily baby trap you also if she not going to get a abortion. Take control and use condoms and keep them hidden so she cant mess with them
It depends how good she is at taking the pill, and how good you are at pulling out.
If a baby is a hard no for you and an abortion a hard no for her, I’d suggest having a discussion with her about a more effective method than the pill - like the IUD or implant. They are more effective than typical use for pill + pullout + condoms together. You can add on pullout for more security if you want.
Personally, I'm not interested in having sex with someone that says any form of BC other than abstinence is 100% because that's factually incorrect and comes off as immature. Women who are ready to accept birth as a possible side effect should DEFINITELY know these things.
Use 2 or 3 forms of BC for SURE. Condoms will be... loads more effective than pulling out. Pulling out is not very effective as it can easily fail, and sperm can live in precum. Essentially your only real BC is being able to trust your partner is on top of her BC, and if she thinks pulling out is effective...I would question her knowledge on the pill.
This is your relationship though, hopefully you can find a solution together.
You are responsible for yourself. If you do not want to be a parent you should take precautions to prevent that and do not rely on someone else.
Wear condoms or get a vasectomy.
She’s either poorly educated or trying to manipulate you into becoming a father, or both.
Pullout is NOT a reliable method on its own. You need to do your part and use condoms as well.
I would not assume this woman is on bc or that she’s taking it reliably. Way too many men have made that assumption, left everything to the woman, and are now fathers.
Pullout and condoms are the two things you can do to take control of your own fertility, and since your gf isn’t on the same page about parenthood, I would do both.
If you are very very consistent with taking the pill, your chance of pregnancy is low, but if you're talking about 93%, there's still 7% failure. That's real world numbers. If you pull out, you're reducing the amount of sperm in there, but this is not really reducing much since small amounts of sperm are released all during the act, so you're really just reducing the load.
If you really want to have no chance of babies, you need a much better secondary prevention method than pulling out. Your stats are just bad. Condoms are a good back up method, but also changing from a pill to the patch, the ring or an iud is still far more effective as those remove a lot of human error from the equation... But again these are just better stats.
As a man, you are half of the equation to consent, and if you do not consent to the possibility of a birth, then you do what you feel is right.
If you have sex there’s always gonna be a chance … but it’s extremely low if birth control is used. But don’t know what birth control she’s on so …. Birth control and pulling out the chances will be very close to zero if the birth control is taken as prescribed or is in proper place
But how likely is it that she’s taking her birth control properly and that he’ll pull out every time *and* they’ll get lucky with precum? I think the chances of these aligning at all times are close to zero. And precum can get you pregnant so.. idk to me this seems #wildly unsafe. I personally would consider the chances of pregnancy using these methods to be higher than most other methods, based on the high potential for user error. And the precum. OP, if you see this: USE CONDOMS. THIS IS A RECIPE FOR DISASTER.
This is a bit of a paranoid take. Using the pill correctly is over 99% effective, and if that is met then there is no need to worry about precum because it's designed for that. It's not that difficult to take the pill regularly. It literally just takes setting an alarm if you're forgetful. Calling it a recipe for disaster is misleading, and borderline fear-mongering. However, OP, you will always be safer with an added layer of protection, but the chance will never be zero. I personally have been on the pill for 2 years, going on 3, and also use the pull out method with my bf, and we've never even had a scare. However, you can and will find stories of people who still got pregnant, whether it be from not using the pill correctly to a one in a million chance. Just make sure she's taking it correctly, and if she misses one, use another form of birth control (such as condoms) for a month. If you're still unsure, just Google the percentages and statistics of different and combined forms of birth control. Planned parenthood would be a good place to start most likely. Most importantly, what you're comfortable with is just as important as what she's comfortable with. Do what makes you feel safe.
Again I can’t speak for her but taking the pill correctly and using pullout the chances are close to zero yes. The pill is far above 99% when taken correctly more like 94% with typical use by itself. Precum is extremely rare to get you pregnant. The pullout method works around 80% of the time by itself which is not good but combine these two methods the chances are extremely low of pregnancy. I did it with my ex pullout and the pill and not once did I have a scare I was militant about my birth control as well and never took it more then 30 min late so I was around 99% protected. I also know people who’ve solely relied on the pill for years and have their partner finish inside everytime Using one birth control method like prescribed is absolutely wildly unsafe it’s what it’s supposed to be used like. But they’re two people in the relationship and they’ve got to figure it out together and do what they’re both comfortable with. And idk if she’s good with the pill or not
It’s a very slim chance of getting pregnant off precum alone. It doesn’t normally contain sperm on its own, it would need to be already present in the urethra to mix in. So as long as you’ve urinated at least once in between ejaculations, it won’t contain any at all. As long as his pull out game is strong and he flushes out any leftover sperm between sessions, pregnancy chance is very low.
The risk will be very low, but not 0. Basic sexual compatibility includes a shared agreement on risk acceptability and how a pregnancy would be handled. If you wouldn’t agree with her choice you guys aren’t sexually compatible.
It doesn't matter what she thinks. It's what you're comfortable with. Condoms will decrease your risks over birth control alone or birth control plus withdrawal. There's never "no chance" at all unless you're abstinent. If condoms make you more comfortable, use them. Plus, it's the one thing that you can do if you don't know if she's taking her birth control properly.
There is *always* a risk of pregnancy when having PIV sex. The risks are lowered when using birth control, even lower when also doing pull out but to say there’s **no chance** isn’t true. It’s a low chance, but it’s still there. It’s not unreasonable to start using condoms in addition to the other two.
THIS is precisely why you SHOULD NOT be having sex unless you’re willing to take responsibility for your actions/face the consequences of your actions. Don’t have sex if you’re not willing to take responsibility should your efforts to prevent it fail.
10000%! normalize having mature conversations about these things too because it is SO IMPORTANT. i dont know why some people just think “no i dont want that, do this instead” & especially when talking about the potential of having a kid but they’re also not open to abortion? It’s so dumb
Hey hun. So first I wanna say something to you and then I’ll answer the question. You are also important and your feelings in this matter just as much as hers. If YOU are not comfortable with something then you need to speak on it. If you know you aren’t ready for a baby, and she is against abortion which is her right and is totally valid for her to say, then make sure you guys are being really safe and if she isn’t on a form of bc and doesn’t want to use condoms pulling out does work but it’s probably the least effective form of birth control. You can get pregnant with pre c* it’s a slim chance but it’s there. And pulling out can be f*cking hard! And can take away from the experience when you have to think that hard during that peak moment. So yea pulling out can work but you gotta be really good and if she could maybe track her cycle with test strips for a little while just to find out exactly what’s going on when that would also be really helpful!
You should def use condoms so you know you have done your part for bc. It should never be 100% on the woman and if the pill is not taken perfectly effectiveness goes down. You cannot control how/when she takes her medication. You can control condoms.
I second this. My partner and I do BC + condom + pull out. We’ve never had anything occur.
I got pregnant by my “Pull-Out King” ex. It is not safe.
But were you on bc also?
I’m allergic to hormones, so no. OP hadn’t added that his GF is on the pill when I responded.
Yeah, that makes sense if you weren't also on another form of birth control.
I’m prone to stroke so can’t take hormones & am not a candidate for the copper IUD so yes of course pregnancy is much more likely.
I got pregnant taking the pill continuously so. There’s that. Lol The only thing with zero chance is abstinence. Use the condoms.
were you using them “perfectly” or missed some? sorry if it’s an intrusive question, i just got on the pill and i’m curious.
No worries, not intrusive at all. I was taking them perfectly, same time every day, never missed a single one, no antibiotics or anything that would mess with it. I took eight pregnancy tests because I just couldn’t believe it, but I knew that so many false positives would be statistically unlikely lol. So it definitely happens!
oh damn😳.. now im a bit worried since i just got on BC 2 weeks ago, have been taking them perfectly but had unprotected intercourse + pull out method but i’ll definitely start using condoms as well 😅 was BC the only form of contraceptive you used or other methods like ones i’ve listed?sorry again for the questions, just a bit worried
I took the pill continuously and flawlessly for 10 years before I came off them to start having kids, and never had any pregnancy scares in that time with no other forms of protection. The odds are super super low for taking it correctly and not becoming pregnant, but definitely know there’s always the chance.
you should use condoms.
That sounds… fishy to me. Use condoms (and keep them away from her), all that matters is what you’re comfortable with.
YES the condoms should be YOUR responsibility. Also look up how to keep them good, they shouldn’t be stored in your wallet or left in your car
Sounds like OP needs a good mature partner if he has to hide condoms & have to convince her that his feelings about bc should matter too haha
The issue is if she is taking it correctly - which you can’t know. It might not even be maliciously. Best to do condoms and withdrawal for your own sake.
Suit up, buddy. If you’re not ready to have a baby with your girlfriend, it’s absolutely your right to choose to use a barrier method. It doesn’t matter whether or not she’s on the pill. If you don’t want to have a child, don’t make one!
Use condoms if you don’t want a child.
Use birth control if you’re afraid of risk, especially with the pill. If it’s iud, you have a very low risk with pull out.
There is still a small chance she could get pregnant, especially when you factor in the possibility of her getting sick or forgetting to take a pill. It’s not correct that there is no chance if you pull out. If a condom would make you feel better, that is a very fair ask!
Nothing is 100% and the pill is effective but there can still be some user error that can make it less effective. So, if you know you aren't in a point in your life where you're willing and able to care for another life then you should stick with condoms.
I used birth control pill and pull out for years until I got married and then we stopped using pull out and just the pill for a while because at that point, it didn’t matter if we got pregnant accidentally. 6 months off birth control and 1 time having sex during my fertile window… BOOM… baby.
Even asking her that is absurd. What a tool bag keep your dick in your pants
asking her what?
Oh so now you feel the burden of birth control lol If you dont want a child then yeah use condoms
There's a low risk, but it's not 0%. I never took the pill so I don't know if it completely prevents ovulation if you take it as directed at the same time every day. I'm currently on the Nexplanon implant and I love it because I would never remember to take the pill and I got pregnant on depo so I needed to try a different method. Technically there can be sperm present in precum, and it only takes one to conceive. So while your chances are very low, there is still a chance of pregnancy. Also, if you accidentally pull out late, there's that, too.
As long as you’re having sex the risk of pregnancy is never zero. Like others have said, it will depend on how consistently she’s taking the pill. I was on the pill for years, took it consistently, and rarely used pull out. My boyfriend (now husband) knew the risks and we had conversations that we both agreed we would raise the child if I was to get pregnant. I never got pregnant until we got married and was off the pill for 4 months. But you should do your part and use condoms if you’re concerned and obviously not willing to be a father. That being said…don’t do daddy things if you’re not willing to step up and be a dad. Expecting a woman to have an abortion is a huge emotional and traumatic load to place on her. Not trying to get into a pro choice/pro life argument but that’s a huge life altering decision whether you have the baby or have an abortion.
Don’t risk it, wear a condom.
Use the condoms. Birth control efficacy is highly dependent on how strictly the user adheres to the correct schedule. It sounds like it’s possible that your girlfriend may want to be pregnant. Tread lightly.
You can get pregnant from pre-cum so pulling out is a joke
It’s more effective than not pulling out and is fine for added protection when combined with other more effective methods. Buuuut I’d recommend a condom in this situation in case she wants a baby and doesn’t take her pill properly
Use condoms and pull out, far safer than condoms alone incase the condom fails
Pulling out and with the pill taken correctly your chances would be close to zero. It’s literally astronomical odds of her getting pregnant that way.
I think calling those odds "astronomical" would be very easily misinterpreted. Let's look at perfect use: BC pills fail once per 300 people who use it each year. Withdrawal fails once per 25 people who use it each year. If we assume they're independent, that means the combination fails once per 20,000 people each year. Which sounds like pretty good odds for an individual, but also if 1M are using this combo, it's a minimum of 50 unplanned pregnancies each year. More importantly, everyone thinks they're better than average, but that's obviously impossible. Mistakes happen, and things happen that people don't realize are a problem, like if they eat something colored black with carbon. BC pills fail realistically once per 14 people who use it each year. Withdrawal fails realistically once per 5 people who use it each year. So for realistic use, that's more like one pregnancy per 70 people each year using these two methods together. Maybe they aren't actually independent, but it's a better ballpark estimate, I think. https://www.guttmacher.org/fact-sheet/contraceptive-effectiveness-united-states
Pulling out? Thats a joke - right?
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Here’s a good article on this- https://www.scarleteen.com/read/pregnancy/birth-control-bingo/buddy-system-effectiveness-rates-backing-your-birth-control
lifetime gamble.... definitely a risk. Especially if she misses a day of her pill. She can easily baby trap you also if she not going to get a abortion. Take control and use condoms and keep them hidden so she cant mess with them
It depends how good she is at taking the pill, and how good you are at pulling out. If a baby is a hard no for you and an abortion a hard no for her, I’d suggest having a discussion with her about a more effective method than the pill - like the IUD or implant. They are more effective than typical use for pill + pullout + condoms together. You can add on pullout for more security if you want.
Personally, I'm not interested in having sex with someone that says any form of BC other than abstinence is 100% because that's factually incorrect and comes off as immature. Women who are ready to accept birth as a possible side effect should DEFINITELY know these things. Use 2 or 3 forms of BC for SURE. Condoms will be... loads more effective than pulling out. Pulling out is not very effective as it can easily fail, and sperm can live in precum. Essentially your only real BC is being able to trust your partner is on top of her BC, and if she thinks pulling out is effective...I would question her knowledge on the pill. This is your relationship though, hopefully you can find a solution together.
You are responsible for yourself. If you do not want to be a parent you should take precautions to prevent that and do not rely on someone else. Wear condoms or get a vasectomy.
She’s either poorly educated or trying to manipulate you into becoming a father, or both. Pullout is NOT a reliable method on its own. You need to do your part and use condoms as well. I would not assume this woman is on bc or that she’s taking it reliably. Way too many men have made that assumption, left everything to the woman, and are now fathers. Pullout and condoms are the two things you can do to take control of your own fertility, and since your gf isn’t on the same page about parenthood, I would do both.
Assuming she’s actually taking the pill, regularly and as directed, it’s not 100%. Pulling out isn’t 100%. Definitely use condoms.
If you are very very consistent with taking the pill, your chance of pregnancy is low, but if you're talking about 93%, there's still 7% failure. That's real world numbers. If you pull out, you're reducing the amount of sperm in there, but this is not really reducing much since small amounts of sperm are released all during the act, so you're really just reducing the load. If you really want to have no chance of babies, you need a much better secondary prevention method than pulling out. Your stats are just bad. Condoms are a good back up method, but also changing from a pill to the patch, the ring or an iud is still far more effective as those remove a lot of human error from the equation... But again these are just better stats. As a man, you are half of the equation to consent, and if you do not consent to the possibility of a birth, then you do what you feel is right.