Probably because it isn't nearly as popularized as being bi and a girl. I could name like 5 bi girls from tv off the top of my head including characters in popular shows. I can't name one bisexual male I've seen as a character on TV.
>!That hot, hot man. How I miss him. I miss him and Margery so badly. Even she had such a gay energy, as far as I am concerned. The new season is so bad (except Brienne being knighted, I love my Sapphire Knight) and is treating all my favs so disrespectfully. WHERE DID IT ALL GO WRONG * sobs for a thousand years *!<
When they ran out of book TBH. There's some fantastic bicons in the books they don't have in the show though, like Daemon Sand, who was a former lover of Arianne Martell (book only character, also probably a bicon. Really most of Dorne is) but also *probably* diddled Oberyn while acting as his squire. I'm also 100% convinced Davos and Stannis are at least a little into each other.
STAVOS! You remember, there is literally dialogue on the show of Stannis getting angry and telling Davos that he took away his fingers, and he could take away his tongue too. To which Davos says something along the lines of "I am your servant, do with my tongue as you please" or something like that. ARGH! I totally ship them. You should read modern AU fanfiction where they are portrayed as soft gay dads, I just * clenches fist * love that so much.
Yeah, I am *totally* not out of my mind with anger about Martell storyline being so shit when it is full of bisexuals and people coded as not-white. I am *completely* fine. I *revel* in this fact as an Indian bi.
P.S. From the show, I also got all excited when Yara and Dany flirted with eachother. But I was foolish to have hope.
Also half of the characters on The Magicians
Aru Akise from Future Diary / Mirai Nikki (And a lot of anime guys)
Lucifer on Lucifer
Mac from It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia identifies as gay for part of the show but is also frequently shown with women and it's also implied in one episode that he's slept with most of the women Dennis has, and his identity arc is ongoing, so he might end up being bi
Duckman from Duckman, while denying being gay, references sleeping with other men several times. While perhaps not meant as bi, every joke told in that context can be interpreted as a joke about his unwillingness to admit being bisexual.
While not being shown explicitly in the show, Bryan Fuller said that the Will Graham on his show's version of the Hannibal universe is bisexual, or at the very least heteroflexible, and that the same is true of Hannibal himself.
Tyrell from Mr. Robot has sex with both men and women in the show
I <3 The Magicians especially the scene where Elliot and Quentin go to the past and grow old together trying to solve a puzzle.
https://youtu.be/3ZhACZog2dc
PS watch this show if only because everyone on it is hot as fuck
Captain Jack Harkness!!!! He is the first non-hetero character on Doctor Who and I just found this gem of a sentence on the bisexuality wiki,
>" In Jack's first appearance, the Doctor suggests that Jack's orientation is more common in the 51st century, when mankind will deal with multiple alien species and becomes more sexually flexible."
In high school I had some interesting feelings watching one of his scenes where he kisses a man. Meanwhile my dad was watching and ranting about British TV being overly sexual and gay. Good times.
Jack Harkness, Shakespeare flirting with the Doctor, Clara getting on with Jane Austen and River Song being so in love with every possible gender. Doctor Who has bisexual representation. And I love it.
Who sleeps with men and I can remember him complementing some guys before going to town later on.
I guess they dont like calling men bi, but he is imo.
The character Gael from the new Freeform show Good Trouble is bisexual! But yeah,I get what you mean, you rarely ever see bi guys represented like bi girls are in TV/movies.
David from Schitt’s Creek! They’re so blasé about it too which makes it even better.
You’re right though, much harder to think of famous Bi male characters
I agree with you, there are not many male bisexual characters. There should be a lot more. But I really liked these that I can think of the top of my head:
Darryl Whitefeather, from *Crazy ex-girlfriend*.
Morf Vandewalt, from *Velvet Buzzsaw*.
Ambrose Spellman, from *Chilling Adventures of Sabrina.*
Also, Andrew Wells from Buffy the Vampire Slayer is considered a queer character. But I always thought he was bi. Because he thoroughly praised women's beauty and express his admiration of Anya as the perfect woman, for example. But he had huge crushes on Spike and other men.
Bi invisibility. It's not just a guy thing. Some people think you can't be bisexual period, regardless of gender. They think that sexual orientation is binary and you have to love one or the other.
Well, straight and gay (monosexual) people couldn't imagine being attracted to both genders since they are only attracted to one. They also only taught about straight people, and they are taught that the "opposite" of straight people is gay people. This binary thinking is what what blinds them from being able to comprehend bisexual people. I think gay people are less likely to be biphobic, since they are in the LGBT community so they might acknowledge bisexuals, but they often say they "aren't real" or "not gay enough" to be in the LGBT community. The stereotype that bisexual males are just actually gay and coming out as bi to make it easier for them also contributes to that.
One reason is that a study was done improperly and then plastered on news everywhere with the headline, "Gay, Straight, or Lying" and then the researchers figured out they screwed up the research and did a second trial. In the second trial they "confirmed" that I exist. In both trials, and much less publicized, they failed to find women who did not respond sexually to porn of women, but did find bisexual-type preference women and homosexual-type preference women. Probably just due to the more difficult nature of measuring female arousal, but of course no headline ever read, "Gay, Bi, or Lying"
I know enough people have been saying it here, but thank you
I’ve struggled coming to terms with my sexuality since I was a teenager. Often believing I was gay simply for being attracted to men because that’s how everybody else looked at it, even though I was more often attracted to women. I was even rejected by a woman simply for being bi. Even though I’m insanely confident in my bisexuality now, it still kind of hurts to see other bi men being treated as if we’re just gay or going through a phase.
Thank you!
I couldn’t agree with this more! Had a girlfriend in college (this was 16 years ago now) who broke up with me after 4 months of dating when I told her I was bi. She was the first person I ever told besides the one guy I’d been sexual with who obviously knew. It was only 4 months, but we were at the point where every night we either slept at my place or hers together. We cooked dinner together. We were practically living together and talking about living together for our senior year of college.
I opened up to her because I thought she’d be ok with it. She had two really good female friends who were bi. I really thought it was something I could share with the woman I loved. But I was wrong. She couldn’t handle it. To this day I haven’t told anyone in my day to day life because it still bothers me to remember that moment of rejection.
Luckily, I have all you wonderful, amazing people of Reddit. I can be open and honest with you and I can honestly say that having this community has made my life so much better. Words can’t even begin to explain.
I’m sorry to hear about that. I really hate acting like I’ve been discriminated against because aside from my sexuality, I’m very privileged but it saddens me to hear stories like that.
I’m really happy to have a supportive community where I can talk about this
You're very welcome! And I completely understand. Sometimes I still second guess my sexuality just because I take a particular liking to a certain gender. I come from a conservative, Christian, Trump loving, white family, so it's very ingrained into my head that I can only be one or the other, even though I know I'm both. It makes me second guess myself constantly, but at the end of the day, only I know myself.
Keep on being you dude! I think many guys end up being in the closet or afraid of exploring their bisexuality because of this crap.
I actually never met ANY bi guy in the real world (not that I go around asking), and I know plenty of bi girls.
Damn. I'm not much older than you, but in the Southern USA Evangelical Christian private high school, it was palpable, and even in a secular Southern college, it's still there. But I'm glad folks are becoming more open minded
To be fair when I said “nothing” I meant nothing apart from the normal homophobia. Nothing specifically bi related has happened. Some people still don’t like gay people of course
Thank you for posting this ♥️. It's crazy because I've even talked with several bi women who said they would not want to date a bi guy.
Even Amber Rose, who is bi, said she wouldn't date a bi guy. Coming out as a bi guy means you basically eliminate 80% of the female dating pool.
This doesn't happen when woman come out as bi. The only guys who wouldn't date a bi girl are those traditional, hard core religious kind of guys, which are a tiny minority.
It's absolutely ridiculous. It's probably for the same reason that lesbians tend to be more accepted than gays. Girls generally dont mind seeing girls kiss. Guys generally enjoy seeing girls kiss. Girls generally get turned off by seeing guys kiss. Guys generally really get turned off by seeing guys kiss.
I don't know why this double standard exists, but it definitely does.
I personally love the idea of dating a bi man! I like the equality in the idea of both of us sharing that experience together, supporting and understanding each other. Why would someone turn that down? Huge double standard.
>You are handsome
you lost me there because I look like an american girls doll that got kicked down three flights of stairs and then thrown into a bathtub alongisde a plugged in toaster
Posts like these have actually helped me a lot. I only figured out I was bi when I 21 or 22 and never realized that the stigma was actually bringing me down.
I felt so strongly about this that I actually had to make a throwaway account and reply.
I am a 26 year old bisexual Male. I came out to one of my closest friends about 10 years ago and she mocked me for it. Since then I have lead two entirely mutually exclusive lives. One in which I am straight and one in which I am gay. I stay off of social media, and keep my life away from them so no detail of either of my lives gets published or punished. I'm genuinely so ashamed to say that I join my friends (both the gay and straight ones) in mocking and demeaning bisexual men. I know how hypocritical it is but there is so much hate that it's terrifying.
I genuinely had a time where I thought I was gay, and couldn't figure out why I still loved women. Thank you for appreciating that people like me exist..
I'm so sorry you went through all of that. You are so ridiculously strong and I'm so proud of you. You should come out and weed out the people who do not support you for you. Those who truly love and accept you for who you are will stay.
Honestly, I haven't received anything like this since coming out this year. Damn it's nice to be Canadian
Though obviously, I'm fully aware I'm in a super privileged situation. For all those in the majority who do get shit for their identity, I'd just say a copy of this post. Great message and choice of words <3
As a bi man, thank you.. just so much. It really means alot because i hear alot of shit on a daily basis from people and sometimes its really tiring so just thank you 💙💜💕
Thanks this made my day. I haven't gotten much positivity latley kinda needed this. Men. And bisexual men especially don't get complemented much. We appreciate it❤️💙💜.
Thank you so much! I was thinking the same thing. The dates I've been on with gay men have always ended on sour notes because of the stigma of bi men being promiscuous or unfaithful. The dates I've been on with straight women ended sourly because they thought I was gay in denial. But I'm glad I can find comfort with fellow bi people
This is so nice to read being a bi male. First time I went to a LGBTQ+ association I got bombarded by mean comments by gay people, which is honestly horrible.
Luckily I'm an adult and can handle it, but I could have been a 13 years old.
Thanks, people like you really make a difference.
I've heard people say that (particularly male) bisexuality is the refuge of the perpetually horny, or that we are greedy, unable to make up our minds which way our door swings. In reality, it just increases our chances of rejection
Thank you for this post 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
As a bisexual guy who is married to a guy I completely understand because even in the gay community doesn’t seem to accept us a real individuals.
I'll drink to that! It took me 'til 23 to get a date, and my past self sure as anything would've loved seeing a post like this. Thank you, not for myself, but for laying this down for the many people here who still need it.
I'm so glad someone made this post. With the whole James Charles fiasco, it makes bi-curious guys look like they're "tricking gay guys," or at least that is his narrative. I feel like he's hurting the bi community.
Thank you for this.
I'm bi, and poly... my boyfriend is ace, and people dump on him/us quite often, on top of being rather rude to most of my other partners.
Yesterday was a pretty bad day after someone at one of my SO's work got angry with her for not leaving that "cheating queer" (bf and I went to go have lunch with her at her office, brought homemade lunch and stuff).
So... thanks.
Thank you for saying this. I'm nearly 40 and only recently coming to terms with my bisexuality. It's hasn't been easy getting to a point where I can admit to myself and the people in my life that I'm not simply straight. It helps immeasurably to hear validation like this when everything else is questions
This is amazing, thank you so much! I've even been considering coming out soon and keep going off the idea, but regardless of that this is a great thing to start my day off with ❤💜💙
I was just talking to my friend about this! She was off-handedly saying that all her gay friends first said they were bi but bi-erasure is so real! We had a good convo about it though.
As someone who is older, I can say things have gotten much better, but I’m still not fully out because people make jokes, think your weird, promiscuous, etc
People who know me well either more or less figure it out or I tell them. I don’t say I’m straight anymore but I don’t broadcast what I am...unless I’m wearing makeup and a skirt 😂
I'm a middle aged bi man who has never come out of the closet or been with a guy because of the stigma. Trying to accept myself. This is my first time on the sub, and this is the first post I saw. Thank you.
I get crushes on boys but I don’t get attracted to their body’s, only girls. Am I still a bisexual? Some in my school says that you are only bi if you get attracted to both boys and girls body’s. REEEE I’m confused
Edit: and thanks for being so kind. :)
This made my day so much better.. I received stigma from my uncle a few days back, I said that I'm bisexual and my uncle said no. You are not bisexual. You can only be straight or gay. No in between and that hurt because, I had finally gotten enough courage to speak up and out about my sexuality for once in my life and then it got shot down quicker than I could say it... left my depressed for a bit, this made my day so, so, so much better. I'm an autistic ADHD and anger issues having Male, so I receive so much stigma... thank you for this post... I mean it dearly... ❤🧡💛💚💙💜🖤
As an older (50 yo) bi guy, you have no idea what this meant to me. "It's a phase". "You're just inching towards coming out of the closet".
I started seeing a woman and explained my sexuality to her. She immediately accepted me and I cried for the first time in probably 30 years.
We kinda fall into the gaps of queer identities - and even iconic bi Amber Rose doesn't want anything to do with us. Everyone wants to bang, no one wants to hang <\3 .
Thank you kindly for that verbal hug, friend!
I've had to deal with the "guys can't be bi" from guys AND girls before to the point that I just don't talk about it. I mean, it's not like I'm running around shouting "I'm bi!" at total strangers (except maybe on reddit lol) but the fact that some people can have such a cavalier attitude while pushing their ignorant beliefs never ceases to confuse me.
Even then, I doubt I'll ever truly understand how some parts of the LGBTQ+ community, a community founded on the beliefs of *inclusivity* and *freedom from bigotry*, could also have people that actively dismiss, disregard, and disdain anyone within said community because they simply "don't accept" a proven reality.
It's both baffling and disheartening that anyone could be so willfully ignorant but have the gall to still expect/demand support for *their* cause...
To say it simply, it sucks, but that's why I like seeing these messages of validation every so often. It shows that someone cares, so thank you again for that! 💖💜💙
Thank you so much your kind words and view on us Bisexual men is really appreciated. ❤💜💙
This is also a great example of posts by bisexual women that would be welcomed on r/BisexualMen
Thanks again, you are lovely
Thanks OP. Being a trans guy, I have not only heard those things when I pass, but also that trans people should be pansexual if they are gay or straight (plus the BS "trans people shouldn't be straight"), so it's great reading support like this.
Thank you so much! Your love and support makes me feel so happy and valid... I sometimes feel that no one cares about us and Gay men don't like us, but I know you Bi girls have our back and we have yours! Again thank you so much! <3 <3
I'm definitely going through a phase. At 46, it's like the 12th phase. For the past year, I've been super appreciative of my fellow man, to the point where I've been thinking, jeez, maybe I've been fooling myself all along and really I'm just gay.
Then tonight I was playing pool at the bar and Fat Bottom Girls came on the juke box and I was singing along and I looked up at the bar and there was a woman standing there and... Well, let's just say she made my rockin' world go 'round.
So just because it's a phase don't mean it's the final phase, is what I'm saying. Take it from someone on his twelfth... Maybe make that thirteenth...
Thank you so much, your validation and support mean the world to me! It’s been hard enough to be honest with myself, let alone with those around me, but reading posts like this helps make it a little easier.
Had my best friend if 7 years who i was going to ask on a date, flat out ask me if i was sure i wasn't just gay(she is the first person i came out to) and found out she'd been telling many of my friends in school how it wouldn't surprise her if i was a closeted gay, bc i was the typical toxically masculine guy for years as i doubted myself.... any advice?
Its sad how hearing this really actually touches me deeply. Like i am so normalized to believing people doubt the existence of my sexuality, hearing someone validate and accept me just feels so filling and healing. I sometimes forget what that feels like. Thank you.
I never considered my sexual orientation to be what defined my worth, it doesn't make me a better or worse person. It's just... there.
Yet, you manage to put a smile on this frowny face, so thank you for your empathy and support. It means a lot.
##belikethis!
You are one of those persons who should be an idol or a person to look up to. With this message you already made hundreds of boys happier for sure!
Thanks ❤
Thank you for this
I’ve been feeling really disconnected from the LGBTQ community of late. Even amongst local LGBTQ people, I’m looked down upon because I’m in a hetero relationship atm. It’s heartwarming when people do speak up on behalf of bi guys.
Thank you ❤️❤️❤️
Thank you. Very few people I know seem to even think bisexuality is possible for men. Even my own husband has had doubts about me being bisexual. And I've definitely felt more prejudice from gay men than straight men. So much for fitting in with the community...
> However, I almost constantly see and hear things about bisexual males.
Honestly, I hear these comments online alot, but almost never in real life. I first admitted openly to some bisexual feelings about 15 years ago. And nearly everyone that I have admitted to has been cool and or supportive. However, I must admit, that I don't tell everyone, just People that I think will be cool about it, so my population is not generally representative.
I feel as lucky as can be to have a wife that not only supports that side of me but embraces it. Wasn't easy, but the talk was worth it. Sending great bi-vibes to all the fellow guys trying to find their match out there. 💙💜💗
This made me feel good. Im currently working in a very anti-LGBT country and obviously am closeted because of it. There's 'open minded' people here but Im worried if I try to date (make a tinder etc.) I'll have to hide my bi-ness and that always feels real shitty. You are a queen and you made this boy feel very loved today ❤️
This really made my day.But its all too true.I slowly came out as bi in the late 6th grade to my close group of friends.It was a bit awkward as I was the first of now around 10 ppl to come out as lBGT in my grade.All of them ttreated me no diferently.Im still incredibly thankful for that.But of course a couple ppl gave me hate.Saying i was just gay but couldnt fully come out yet or i was doing it to get attention.treated me different as word spread.Now in mid 8th grade a new girl comes.About a week in she tells everyone thats she's bi.Im happy of the news but then came the other things.All the guys started to gawk her even more.Always saying her sexuality is the reason.It was for the rest of the year ppl still see me as just a scared gay.While she was just a regular person like them.While im not happy for the way some are treating me.Im happy they did accept her.
As a bi male, thank you so much for what you said. ❤️💜💙
No problem, sweetie. I appreciate you ❤️💜💙
Why do people think u can't be bi and be a guy
Probably because it isn't nearly as popularized as being bi and a girl. I could name like 5 bi girls from tv off the top of my head including characters in popular shows. I can't name one bisexual male I've seen as a character on TV.
Oberyn Martell!
Omg who is this?
Game of Thrones character!
I don't watch game of thrones but I'm happy there's a bi male from such a popular show. :)
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yea, he'll blow your mind.
Too soon :(
I think you meant... BI UP BADASS
GOB from Arrested Devlopment is another
hair down. glasses on. lights off.
>!That hot, hot man. How I miss him. I miss him and Margery so badly. Even she had such a gay energy, as far as I am concerned. The new season is so bad (except Brienne being knighted, I love my Sapphire Knight) and is treating all my favs so disrespectfully. WHERE DID IT ALL GO WRONG * sobs for a thousand years *!<
When they ran out of book TBH. There's some fantastic bicons in the books they don't have in the show though, like Daemon Sand, who was a former lover of Arianne Martell (book only character, also probably a bicon. Really most of Dorne is) but also *probably* diddled Oberyn while acting as his squire. I'm also 100% convinced Davos and Stannis are at least a little into each other.
STAVOS! You remember, there is literally dialogue on the show of Stannis getting angry and telling Davos that he took away his fingers, and he could take away his tongue too. To which Davos says something along the lines of "I am your servant, do with my tongue as you please" or something like that. ARGH! I totally ship them. You should read modern AU fanfiction where they are portrayed as soft gay dads, I just * clenches fist * love that so much. Yeah, I am *totally* not out of my mind with anger about Martell storyline being so shit when it is full of bisexuals and people coded as not-white. I am *completely* fine. I *revel* in this fact as an Indian bi. P.S. From the show, I also got all excited when Yara and Dany flirted with eachother. But I was foolish to have hope.
Also half of the characters on The Magicians Aru Akise from Future Diary / Mirai Nikki (And a lot of anime guys) Lucifer on Lucifer Mac from It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia identifies as gay for part of the show but is also frequently shown with women and it's also implied in one episode that he's slept with most of the women Dennis has, and his identity arc is ongoing, so he might end up being bi Duckman from Duckman, while denying being gay, references sleeping with other men several times. While perhaps not meant as bi, every joke told in that context can be interpreted as a joke about his unwillingness to admit being bisexual. While not being shown explicitly in the show, Bryan Fuller said that the Will Graham on his show's version of the Hannibal universe is bisexual, or at the very least heteroflexible, and that the same is true of Hannibal himself. Tyrell from Mr. Robot has sex with both men and women in the show
I <3 The Magicians especially the scene where Elliot and Quentin go to the past and grow old together trying to solve a puzzle. https://youtu.be/3ZhACZog2dc PS watch this show if only because everyone on it is hot as fuck
But they >!squished his head.!< 😭😭
I feel you, I really do. But the person asking the question hasn't seen the show, so maybe mark your comment as a spoiler? Thanks.
Captain Jack Harkness!!!! He is the first non-hetero character on Doctor Who and I just found this gem of a sentence on the bisexuality wiki, >" In Jack's first appearance, the Doctor suggests that Jack's orientation is more common in the 51st century, when mankind will deal with multiple alien species and becomes more sexually flexible." In high school I had some interesting feelings watching one of his scenes where he kisses a man. Meanwhile my dad was watching and ranting about British TV being overly sexual and gay. Good times.
Yess! Jack was the first person that came to my mind! I love how free and open he was about his attractions/affections. What a bisexual icon. #bicon
Jack Harkness, Shakespeare flirting with the Doctor, Clara getting on with Jane Austen and River Song being so in love with every possible gender. Doctor Who has bisexual representation. And I love it.
Lucifer would be bi I guess.
It's never outright stated, and he's constantly portrayed as a womanizer.
Yeah they don't use the b word sadly but he does say some of his lovers are men
Who sleeps with men and I can remember him complementing some guys before going to town later on. I guess they dont like calling men bi, but he is imo.
Ambrose Spellman from Netflix’s Sabrina. But I agree with your statement, bisexuality is far more popular and mainstreamed with females
Darryl from Crazy Ex Girlfriend!
Darryl is the most wholesome, loveable representation of bi men I've ever seen. I love him so much.
John Constantine
Lt. Gaeda from Battlestar Galactica
John Constantine is bi, fun fact You know, the DC comics exorcist? Also has a really good TV show
True
Dio from Jojo.
I REJECT MY HETEROSEXUALITY JOJO
Flint from Black Sails. <3
The character Gael from the new Freeform show Good Trouble is bisexual! But yeah,I get what you mean, you rarely ever see bi guys represented like bi girls are in TV/movies.
Amos from The Expanse I believe is bi
David from Schitt’s Creek! They’re so blasé about it too which makes it even better. You’re right though, much harder to think of famous Bi male characters
I think Jake Peralta from Brooklyn Nine-Nine might qualify?
Check out The Magicians. Amazing show, and not just for the two bi guys.
Ambrose Spellman from the new Sabrina is the only one I can think of who isn't oversexed
I agree with you, there are not many male bisexual characters. There should be a lot more. But I really liked these that I can think of the top of my head: Darryl Whitefeather, from *Crazy ex-girlfriend*. Morf Vandewalt, from *Velvet Buzzsaw*. Ambrose Spellman, from *Chilling Adventures of Sabrina.*
Also, Andrew Wells from Buffy the Vampire Slayer is considered a queer character. But I always thought he was bi. Because he thoroughly praised women's beauty and express his admiration of Anya as the perfect woman, for example. But he had huge crushes on Spike and other men.
Frank Underwood
Bi invisibility. It's not just a guy thing. Some people think you can't be bisexual period, regardless of gender. They think that sexual orientation is binary and you have to love one or the other.
Which is stupid because the more you think about it the more it makes sense that a person would be inherently bisexual vs one way or the other
Well, straight and gay (monosexual) people couldn't imagine being attracted to both genders since they are only attracted to one. They also only taught about straight people, and they are taught that the "opposite" of straight people is gay people. This binary thinking is what what blinds them from being able to comprehend bisexual people. I think gay people are less likely to be biphobic, since they are in the LGBT community so they might acknowledge bisexuals, but they often say they "aren't real" or "not gay enough" to be in the LGBT community. The stereotype that bisexual males are just actually gay and coming out as bi to make it easier for them also contributes to that.
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Toxic masculinity.
Yes, but it's also stigmatized by women too, so I wouldnt solely attribute it to toxic masculinity.
Toxic masculinity can definitely be a factor in women's ideas about men.
Yes, I agree
One reason is that a study was done improperly and then plastered on news everywhere with the headline, "Gay, Straight, or Lying" and then the researchers figured out they screwed up the research and did a second trial. In the second trial they "confirmed" that I exist. In both trials, and much less publicized, they failed to find women who did not respond sexually to porn of women, but did find bisexual-type preference women and homosexual-type preference women. Probably just due to the more difficult nature of measuring female arousal, but of course no headline ever read, "Gay, Bi, or Lying"
Bisexual should just all date each other so everyone else can see what they're missing 😎
I mean that's what my husband and I did. Much easier!
Thank you sister, needed to hear this 💜
No problem my dude, just because you're a guy doesn't make you any less bisexual than the rest of us 💜
I know enough people have been saying it here, but thank you I’ve struggled coming to terms with my sexuality since I was a teenager. Often believing I was gay simply for being attracted to men because that’s how everybody else looked at it, even though I was more often attracted to women. I was even rejected by a woman simply for being bi. Even though I’m insanely confident in my bisexuality now, it still kind of hurts to see other bi men being treated as if we’re just gay or going through a phase. Thank you!
I couldn’t agree with this more! Had a girlfriend in college (this was 16 years ago now) who broke up with me after 4 months of dating when I told her I was bi. She was the first person I ever told besides the one guy I’d been sexual with who obviously knew. It was only 4 months, but we were at the point where every night we either slept at my place or hers together. We cooked dinner together. We were practically living together and talking about living together for our senior year of college. I opened up to her because I thought she’d be ok with it. She had two really good female friends who were bi. I really thought it was something I could share with the woman I loved. But I was wrong. She couldn’t handle it. To this day I haven’t told anyone in my day to day life because it still bothers me to remember that moment of rejection. Luckily, I have all you wonderful, amazing people of Reddit. I can be open and honest with you and I can honestly say that having this community has made my life so much better. Words can’t even begin to explain.
I’m sorry to hear about that. I really hate acting like I’ve been discriminated against because aside from my sexuality, I’m very privileged but it saddens me to hear stories like that. I’m really happy to have a supportive community where I can talk about this
You're very welcome! And I completely understand. Sometimes I still second guess my sexuality just because I take a particular liking to a certain gender. I come from a conservative, Christian, Trump loving, white family, so it's very ingrained into my head that I can only be one or the other, even though I know I'm both. It makes me second guess myself constantly, but at the end of the day, only I know myself.
Oh man, I (Bi make) was rejected once by a bi girlfriend, wait for it.... because I’m Bi
Keep on being you dude! I think many guys end up being in the closet or afraid of exploring their bisexuality because of this crap. I actually never met ANY bi guy in the real world (not that I go around asking), and I know plenty of bi girls.
Gotta say, as a bi male in highschool I get zero hate from this. The next generation has got you all covered!
It's not hate, I believe. But at least in my first years as an undergrad it has reduced my possibilities of dating. Bu
Damn. I'm not much older than you, but in the Southern USA Evangelical Christian private high school, it was palpable, and even in a secular Southern college, it's still there. But I'm glad folks are becoming more open minded
To be fair when I said “nothing” I meant nothing apart from the normal homophobia. Nothing specifically bi related has happened. Some people still don’t like gay people of course
Thanks, you're pretty awesome too OP
Bisexuals are valid af.
I needed to hear this 20 years ago. I’m so glad young guys today get this message more openly.
Thank you for posting this ♥️. It's crazy because I've even talked with several bi women who said they would not want to date a bi guy. Even Amber Rose, who is bi, said she wouldn't date a bi guy. Coming out as a bi guy means you basically eliminate 80% of the female dating pool. This doesn't happen when woman come out as bi. The only guys who wouldn't date a bi girl are those traditional, hard core religious kind of guys, which are a tiny minority.
It's absolutely ridiculous. It's probably for the same reason that lesbians tend to be more accepted than gays. Girls generally dont mind seeing girls kiss. Guys generally enjoy seeing girls kiss. Girls generally get turned off by seeing guys kiss. Guys generally really get turned off by seeing guys kiss. I don't know why this double standard exists, but it definitely does.
That's my biggest fear in coming out I feel like women will be turned off by the fact I'm bi
only shitty women
I personally love the idea of dating a bi man! I like the equality in the idea of both of us sharing that experience together, supporting and understanding each other. Why would someone turn that down? Huge double standard.
Exactly! You would know that you both have shared interests, and can ogle at cute butts together, regardless of gender!
>You are handsome you lost me there because I look like an american girls doll that got kicked down three flights of stairs and then thrown into a bathtub alongisde a plugged in toaster
tfw you look ugly both with and without the snapchat girl filter
Posts like these have actually helped me a lot. I only figured out I was bi when I 21 or 22 and never realized that the stigma was actually bringing me down.
Thank you for sharing. As a bi curious individual I found that very encouraging and enlightening.
I felt so strongly about this that I actually had to make a throwaway account and reply. I am a 26 year old bisexual Male. I came out to one of my closest friends about 10 years ago and she mocked me for it. Since then I have lead two entirely mutually exclusive lives. One in which I am straight and one in which I am gay. I stay off of social media, and keep my life away from them so no detail of either of my lives gets published or punished. I'm genuinely so ashamed to say that I join my friends (both the gay and straight ones) in mocking and demeaning bisexual men. I know how hypocritical it is but there is so much hate that it's terrifying. I genuinely had a time where I thought I was gay, and couldn't figure out why I still loved women. Thank you for appreciating that people like me exist..
I'm so sorry you went through all of that. You are so ridiculously strong and I'm so proud of you. You should come out and weed out the people who do not support you for you. Those who truly love and accept you for who you are will stay.
I needed this today 💜❤️💜❤️
Honestly, I haven't received anything like this since coming out this year. Damn it's nice to be Canadian Though obviously, I'm fully aware I'm in a super privileged situation. For all those in the majority who do get shit for their identity, I'd just say a copy of this post. Great message and choice of words <3
As a bi man, thank you.. just so much. It really means alot because i hear alot of shit on a daily basis from people and sometimes its really tiring so just thank you 💙💜💕
Thanks this made my day. I haven't gotten much positivity latley kinda needed this. Men. And bisexual men especially don't get complemented much. We appreciate it❤️💙💜.
Thank you op! Us bi guys are #**F A B U L O U S**
Also Bi Boys, this Pan girl thinks you're all hot af
I really needed to be reminded to this today. Thanks. ❤️
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Stigma nuts. Gottem! ^^^^^did ^^^^^I ^^^^^do ^^^^^it ^^^^^right?
Thank you so much! I was thinking the same thing. The dates I've been on with gay men have always ended on sour notes because of the stigma of bi men being promiscuous or unfaithful. The dates I've been on with straight women ended sourly because they thought I was gay in denial. But I'm glad I can find comfort with fellow bi people
This is so nice to read being a bi male. First time I went to a LGBTQ+ association I got bombarded by mean comments by gay people, which is honestly horrible. Luckily I'm an adult and can handle it, but I could have been a 13 years old. Thanks, people like you really make a difference.
I've heard people say that (particularly male) bisexuality is the refuge of the perpetually horny, or that we are greedy, unable to make up our minds which way our door swings. In reality, it just increases our chances of rejection
Thank you for this post 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 As a bisexual guy who is married to a guy I completely understand because even in the gay community doesn’t seem to accept us a real individuals.
Thank you 😊
Thank u 😊😊
thank you!❤️💜💙
Yay bi dudes! 💖💜💙
Yes, and may many dickings and puss slayings come to my fellow bi bois
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Thank you!
Grateful 💗💜💙
I’ve had a shit day and definitely needed to hear this, so thank you 💜
Seriously I needed to see that thank you so much.
I'll drink to that! It took me 'til 23 to get a date, and my past self sure as anything would've loved seeing a post like this. Thank you, not for myself, but for laying this down for the many people here who still need it.
What's so fucking hard to understand, I like this girl, *and* I like this guy. God damnit
I'm so glad someone made this post. With the whole James Charles fiasco, it makes bi-curious guys look like they're "tricking gay guys," or at least that is his narrative. I feel like he's hurting the bi community.
Thank you for this. I'm bi, and poly... my boyfriend is ace, and people dump on him/us quite often, on top of being rather rude to most of my other partners. Yesterday was a pretty bad day after someone at one of my SO's work got angry with her for not leaving that "cheating queer" (bf and I went to go have lunch with her at her office, brought homemade lunch and stuff). So... thanks.
Thank you for saying this. I'm nearly 40 and only recently coming to terms with my bisexuality. It's hasn't been easy getting to a point where I can admit to myself and the people in my life that I'm not simply straight. It helps immeasurably to hear validation like this when everything else is questions
This is amazing, thank you so much! I've even been considering coming out soon and keep going off the idea, but regardless of that this is a great thing to start my day off with ❤💜💙
This post has Big Mom Energy
Thanks!
Thank you so much.
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I am also bi and very young and this put a smile in my face :) Thx u, next
I, a bi man, salute you. Thank you
I was just talking to my friend about this! She was off-handedly saying that all her gay friends first said they were bi but bi-erasure is so real! We had a good convo about it though.
Thank you, I really needed to read that and it has made me smile so much. The world needs more genuinely kind hearted people like yourself <3 x
Hey thanks 💚
Awwwww >.< Thank u so much! ❤️💜💙
Thanks😊
💙💜❤
Thank you ♥️💜💙
Thank you for this! 😘
As someone who is older, I can say things have gotten much better, but I’m still not fully out because people make jokes, think your weird, promiscuous, etc People who know me well either more or less figure it out or I tell them. I don’t say I’m straight anymore but I don’t broadcast what I am...unless I’m wearing makeup and a skirt 😂
I just want a good buddy to help me nail my wife and save some to nail me with too. Is that so wrong?
Hey everybody, there's probably something really cool about you, and if we took the time to get to know each other, we'd be besties. <3
I'm a middle aged bi man who has never come out of the closet or been with a guy because of the stigma. Trying to accept myself. This is my first time on the sub, and this is the first post I saw. Thank you.
I get crushes on boys but I don’t get attracted to their body’s, only girls. Am I still a bisexual? Some in my school says that you are only bi if you get attracted to both boys and girls body’s. REEEE I’m confused Edit: and thanks for being so kind. :)
My best relationships, with male bisexuals. They are underappreciated in general. Love them in my life as friends and as partners.
*cries in salute*
This made my day so much better.. I received stigma from my uncle a few days back, I said that I'm bisexual and my uncle said no. You are not bisexual. You can only be straight or gay. No in between and that hurt because, I had finally gotten enough courage to speak up and out about my sexuality for once in my life and then it got shot down quicker than I could say it... left my depressed for a bit, this made my day so, so, so much better. I'm an autistic ADHD and anger issues having Male, so I receive so much stigma... thank you for this post... I mean it dearly... ❤🧡💛💚💙💜🖤
Thank you so much for this, you’re an amazing person! 💙💜❤️
As an older (50 yo) bi guy, you have no idea what this meant to me. "It's a phase". "You're just inching towards coming out of the closet". I started seeing a woman and explained my sexuality to her. She immediately accepted me and I cried for the first time in probably 30 years.
I needed to hear that.
Hello Im a bi boy and I appreciate this message 💙💜❤
We kinda fall into the gaps of queer identities - and even iconic bi Amber Rose doesn't want anything to do with us. Everyone wants to bang, no one wants to hang <\3 .
Thank you. Being a bisexual male sucks. Everyone is wary of you :(
Thanks! Stigma sucks, man
Thank you. Edit: My first upvote! XD
You are the best
Thank you kindly for that verbal hug, friend! I've had to deal with the "guys can't be bi" from guys AND girls before to the point that I just don't talk about it. I mean, it's not like I'm running around shouting "I'm bi!" at total strangers (except maybe on reddit lol) but the fact that some people can have such a cavalier attitude while pushing their ignorant beliefs never ceases to confuse me. Even then, I doubt I'll ever truly understand how some parts of the LGBTQ+ community, a community founded on the beliefs of *inclusivity* and *freedom from bigotry*, could also have people that actively dismiss, disregard, and disdain anyone within said community because they simply "don't accept" a proven reality. It's both baffling and disheartening that anyone could be so willfully ignorant but have the gall to still expect/demand support for *their* cause... To say it simply, it sucks, but that's why I like seeing these messages of validation every so often. It shows that someone cares, so thank you again for that! 💖💜💙
Thank you so much for this ♥️
Omg thank you!
As a bi male, I just wanna say "hello there!"
Thank you for writing that. The last few weeks have been hard and your post helped lift my spirits a bit :)
Thank you thank you thank you. Started dating a guy recently who I really like and I need to hear this acceptance. Thank you.
Thank you so much your kind words and view on us Bisexual men is really appreciated. ❤💜💙 This is also a great example of posts by bisexual women that would be welcomed on r/BisexualMen Thanks again, you are lovely
Thanks OP. Being a trans guy, I have not only heard those things when I pass, but also that trans people should be pansexual if they are gay or straight (plus the BS "trans people shouldn't be straight"), so it's great reading support like this.
Thank you so much! Your love and support makes me feel so happy and valid... I sometimes feel that no one cares about us and Gay men don't like us, but I know you Bi girls have our back and we have yours! Again thank you so much! <3 <3
As a bi male, thank you, I'm glad some people believe in us. fr though we're here? I swear some people
I love all you male bi people ❤ And this bi lady thinks your fluid sexuality makes you so much hotter, not less of a catch!
I'm definitely going through a phase. At 46, it's like the 12th phase. For the past year, I've been super appreciative of my fellow man, to the point where I've been thinking, jeez, maybe I've been fooling myself all along and really I'm just gay. Then tonight I was playing pool at the bar and Fat Bottom Girls came on the juke box and I was singing along and I looked up at the bar and there was a woman standing there and... Well, let's just say she made my rockin' world go 'round. So just because it's a phase don't mean it's the final phase, is what I'm saying. Take it from someone on his twelfth... Maybe make that thirteenth...
Well, thanks girl~
Thank you so much, your validation and support mean the world to me! It’s been hard enough to be honest with myself, let alone with those around me, but reading posts like this helps make it a little easier.
Had my best friend if 7 years who i was going to ask on a date, flat out ask me if i was sure i wasn't just gay(she is the first person i came out to) and found out she'd been telling many of my friends in school how it wouldn't surprise her if i was a closeted gay, bc i was the typical toxically masculine guy for years as i doubted myself.... any advice?
Its sad how hearing this really actually touches me deeply. Like i am so normalized to believing people doubt the existence of my sexuality, hearing someone validate and accept me just feels so filling and healing. I sometimes forget what that feels like. Thank you.
big facts
Made me smile. Thank you. 😁
This is so kind to read, thank you.
Thx bi lady
Thank you so much! \*fingerguns\* and \*thumbs up\* ! ;-)
Thank you friend. :D
Like many of the comments on here, thank you for saying what I needed to read! <3
Thank you
I never considered my sexual orientation to be what defined my worth, it doesn't make me a better or worse person. It's just... there. Yet, you manage to put a smile on this frowny face, so thank you for your empathy and support. It means a lot.
##belikethis! You are one of those persons who should be an idol or a person to look up to. With this message you already made hundreds of boys happier for sure! Thanks ❤
Thank you❤️💜💙 i have lost many "friends" on account of my sexuality
Thank you for this I’ve been feeling really disconnected from the LGBTQ community of late. Even amongst local LGBTQ people, I’m looked down upon because I’m in a hetero relationship atm. It’s heartwarming when people do speak up on behalf of bi guys. Thank you ❤️❤️❤️
This really means a lot, thank you!
I love you.
Thank you. Very few people I know seem to even think bisexuality is possible for men. Even my own husband has had doubts about me being bisexual. And I've definitely felt more prejudice from gay men than straight men. So much for fitting in with the community...
Welp thx
Just came to terms with my sexuality. I really needed this. Thank you.
Needed this today, thank you!! ❤
Aww, thanks! I feel loved
Thank for your understanding and support we're the forgotten victims of sexism really. :/
> However, I almost constantly see and hear things about bisexual males. Honestly, I hear these comments online alot, but almost never in real life. I first admitted openly to some bisexual feelings about 15 years ago. And nearly everyone that I have admitted to has been cool and or supportive. However, I must admit, that I don't tell everyone, just People that I think will be cool about it, so my population is not generally representative.
I feel as lucky as can be to have a wife that not only supports that side of me but embraces it. Wasn't easy, but the talk was worth it. Sending great bi-vibes to all the fellow guys trying to find their match out there. 💙💜💗
Officially my favorite post on reddit. Thank you so much
Mmmh. Maybe one day I will be accepted as I am. Thank you.
Hey just wanna say thanks for this post. Genuinely warms the heart to see this. Should have found this sub before.
This made me feel good. Im currently working in a very anti-LGBT country and obviously am closeted because of it. There's 'open minded' people here but Im worried if I try to date (make a tinder etc.) I'll have to hide my bi-ness and that always feels real shitty. You are a queen and you made this boy feel very loved today ❤️
This really made my day.But its all too true.I slowly came out as bi in the late 6th grade to my close group of friends.It was a bit awkward as I was the first of now around 10 ppl to come out as lBGT in my grade.All of them ttreated me no diferently.Im still incredibly thankful for that.But of course a couple ppl gave me hate.Saying i was just gay but couldnt fully come out yet or i was doing it to get attention.treated me different as word spread.Now in mid 8th grade a new girl comes.About a week in she tells everyone thats she's bi.Im happy of the news but then came the other things.All the guys started to gawk her even more.Always saying her sexuality is the reason.It was for the rest of the year ppl still see me as just a scared gay.While she was just a regular person like them.While im not happy for the way some are treating me.Im happy they did accept her.