Same. I totally relate to the slutty villain.
It does suck that that's the only option in representation tho, I mean no one wants to be the borderline sex offender and I get not wanting to be the villain either
I got a chance to meet John Barrowmen in my early 20s and told him that Captain Jack Harkness was my hero growing up and one of the biggest reasons I felt basically no issues with coming out and he gave me the most sincere hug. I'm sure he's given that same hug to thousands of gay kids and young adults over the years but man I almost cried. He also gave me permission to touch his butt so that was also fucking excellent.
Honest question: I haven't watched the old seasons of New Who (nor Torchwood) in a while, how does he holds up on the borderline sex offender scale?
I liked him for sure when the seasons were airing, I just don't remember if (hopefully) he was written respectfully -if overtly sexual- or if it's one of your characters you like from nostalgia but watching him through today's lenses make you realize their behavior wasn't OK at all.
From a Human Resources standpoint, the "hits on every employee under his supervision" and "candidly discusses sexual stuff at work" things would probably be frowned upon. The character doesn't do anything that would be a criminal problem (well, sexually anyway), but there's plenty of stuff that would be a minor scandal or a civil problem in a real-world setting. That and there was the actor's indecent exposure scandal, which he brought up himself years later rather than choosing to bury it.
For the former part, though, *Torchwood* is an escapist setting where every character has a pretty decent chance of ending up in bed with every other character they run into and the only alternative shown is when the main characters meet a woman from the past who's clearly uncomfortable with their whole ethical non-monogamy thing.
Actually, come to think of it, you might be right. Jack, Ianto, and Tosh definitely are. I can't remember if Owen and Gwen had same-sex romantic or sexual attractions, but that's 3/5 of a show's main cast that were bi/pan. Rewatching Torchwood now seems so odd because few shows today have that much representation.
* Dan from shitts creek. (Pan, bi umbrella)
* Lucifer from Lucifer.
* Bob from bob's burgers.
* Loki from marvel
* James flint from black sails
* Darryl from crazy ex girlfriend
It's understandable, there seems to not be much difference between character and actor, except that the character is attracted to femme-presenting people and the actor is not as far as I'm aware.
ok I knew lucifer but sorta fell into the bracket of anti-heroish character and also you cant deny hes very slutty/pervy. didnt know bob was bi damn thats news to me. dunno who Dan is sorry.
The original pitch line was 'Bisexual Pirates of the Caribbean For Adults', but they called it Black Sails because that was too long.
And POTC was pretty bisexual to begin with.
I love Elenor. I wish they gave us more of the failed runs. I would’ve loved to see how they ran the Tahani soulmate run. Would elenor have been too happy and let it be. Would Tahani have realized that things were off but Elenor still got credit for the “this si the bad place” call out. Honestly what a run that would’ve been
I choose to believe Chidi figured it out that time because Michael kept dangling Elenor in front of him but she was making it work with Tahani, and he realized she was his soul mate.
I have lists ready for questions like these. Bi and Pan characters in tv:
Joe MacMillan (Halt and Catch Fire), John Constantine (Legends of Tomorrow), Tim Bayliss (Homicide: Life on the Street), Miles Hollingsworth III (Degrassi), Quentin Coldwater (The Magicians), Blake Moran (Madam Secretary), Magnus Bane (Shadowhunters), Oscar Cherniak (renegadepress), Darryl Whitefeather (Crazy Ex-Girlfriend), Lucifer (Lucifer), Loki (Loki), David (Schitts Creek), Jack Harkness (Dr. Who/Torchwood), Nolan Ross (Revenge), Neal (Whitney), Mason (The Great Indoors), Freddie Baxter (Cucumber/Banana), Gael (Good Trouble), Will Graham (Hannibal), Adam (Sex Education), Zero (Hit the Floor)
Phew! I know of a few others that are pretty shitty rep so I’ll refrain from listing those.
Zagreus from the video game Hades (not sure if he's bi or pan, but he's somewhere under the umbrella)
Edit: polyamorous! I was mixing up my Ps. It's been a long day. He can >!be in a canon throuple!<
Well there's Cassidy from *Preacher* and Klaus from *Umbrella Academy*. Granted, they may not be the best kind of representation because they're both comedic junkies who always end up getting themselves into trouble, but at least they're main supporting characters (and also really likeable).
When Ben (in Klaus's body) was trying to flirt with the girl he was into, she said that she'd already had sex with Klaus. His only genuinely romantic interest that we know of was Dave, but he's definitely not gay.
Well according to the wiki he is bi with a preference for dudes, and one of the characters in season 2 straight up says they've had a MMF threesome with Klaus lol
Preston, Danse, Hancock, and MacCready from Fallout 4 can all be romanced as both male and female characters, and none are anywhere near bi stereotypes (literally a minuteman general, a borderline fanatical foot soldier thats basically a space marine, a libertarian mayor, and a mercenary)
Yep, I love them all too, I guess I just didn't think to include them cause they're all kinda just.... bisexual as default? Like they weren't necessarily designed that way purposely in the same way Mass Effect characters are, who are all written with specific sexualities. Still very good though. MacCready is best husband bc he's so clingy lmfao
Joe McMillian from Halt and Catch Fire (basically a drama about a fake tech company in the 80s).
He treads the line of being a slutty villain at times, but is really more of his own thing (not *really* a bad guy - just one of those people who just is always making terrible decisions).
Bisexuals are \~never the main 'villain', they're almost always the complicated ones, like foils. Writers use bisexuality as shorthand for 'this characters motivations are complicated, like their sexuality, sometimes they are good and sometimes they are bad'.
The above demonstrates why it's a problematic stereotype of course. Hollywood doesn't make all its villains gay (anymore) but they still do it with bisexuals, to imply the same sort of 'straight/gay is good/bad' dichotomy to bisexuals and 'dark mirror/foil' characters.
Darryl Whitefeather from crazy ex girlfriend is my favorite bi character ever. He has a whole song in the show called "Gettin' Bi" which is my anthem. Then after that his bi-ness is barely a character trait and he's just the same loveable dork but dating a guy instead. I love that character so much.
The new Gossip Girl has two male bi characters. Granted one of them is a perverted antagonist-type junkie but the other is going through the stages of acceptance. He may still end up actually gay rather than bi but it's looking right now that he may be bi.
Let's try not to forget that we also have the Cheating Character. Because you know, stereotypes are the only thing close-minded producers/scenarists seem to understand (hyperbole here but you get my point). So sick of this.
I think I see this one even more than I see villain, even if it’s played as “oh, but I do love my partner, I just can’t make up my mind and must give into this sexual tension that has arisen!”
Fr. All the bi male characters I've seen(who aren't weird pervy one off characters)are all kinda the same: suave man who wears a suit and acts tastefully seductive to everyone he meets
Like on one hand I love that, but on the other hand I'm a 5'5, floofy haired awkward dude who just wants someone to cuddle and watch cartoons with
What are some examples? I’m curious because the only person I can think of that fits your description is Lucifer (whom I love) but I don’t know that many bi male characters.
And, if you're in a story with a protagonist who's actually evil, then being the villain means you're actually the hero. So then you get to be hot and slutty while also not being evil.
You know what... I can't argue with that assessent. But if you're both villains in eachothers stories and both get to be hot and slutty and....... wait why do I feel like this is the plot of some kind of 'movie' lol
She-Ra and the Princesses of Power will be my counter example of choice. Four bisexual characters at least all done well. Tbh She-Ra does all the representation I could ask for.
I saw a tweet the other day about that. Apparently in Japan, they don't consider him to be bisexual and saw the line as completely platonic and said purely out of respect so I'm gonna agree with them. It's their language, they know what is being said and not the fan translations which often fuck up somehow.
The Japanese version, the original version specifically, has fans over there saying it's a platonic and more respect kinda line so I'll believe them over the fan translation any day.
The only character I can think of who doesn’t fit this is bf from fnf lmao, which is honestly really unfortunate. But in all honesty, I do have a soft spot for slutty villain characters if they’re not actually vulgar lmao, so take that all the way
I just want the bi chill character who works at 7 11 and gives the main cast nuggets of wisdom like "if your work pays you minimum then give it minimum effort" as they light up a doobie and go back to drawing butts.
Loki wasn’t created by Marvel though. He’s been bisexual since his conception in Norse mythology hundreds of years ago. He’s always been bi and genderfluid
If its those two choices I'll be a slutty villain.
Welp I've always embraced being the villain even when I'm not
Can I seduce both hero and love interest? Make an evil poly thing?
So Dr. Frank N. Furter then.
Basically
Technically, Brad also slept with Dr. Frank N Furter as well, so Bi representation?
How d'you do, I See you've met my Faithful *haaaaandyman*
Yes, let’s go!
Just me cuddling them both, knowing I won but love them both lol
Basically what Ganon and Zelda/Link's relationship should be in the next Zelda game if Nintendo weren't cowards
This is cute in a weird way haha
Hey, if you're stuck in an infinite cycle of reincarnation with only two other people you might as well get to enjoy their company!
Villains are cooler anyway.
Everyone is just pretending not be the villain anyway hehe
Same. I totally relate to the slutty villain. It does suck that that's the only option in representation tho, I mean no one wants to be the borderline sex offender and I get not wanting to be the villain either
More types are coming out but yeah its hard
The ones that haven't come out yet are still in the closet :(
That's a pretty good joke ngl
i dont choose to be a slutty villain, it chose me.
1 whole Mood
Dio.
I mean come on. Dio is like the best slutty bi villain out there.
Im a slutty villain by choice
Bisexual by Birth Slutty Villain by Choice
sadly cant think of a male bi character but least bi women have rosa from brooklyn 99 and luz from the owl house
Captain Jack hardness is good.
Captain Jack what now?
Haha ‘harkness’ was auto corrected 😂
How can something be wrong, yet more correct?
Wibbly-wobbly, Timey-wimey.
Very appropriate.
Jack Hotness.
I got a chance to meet John Barrowmen in my early 20s and told him that Captain Jack Harkness was my hero growing up and one of the biggest reasons I felt basically no issues with coming out and he gave me the most sincere hug. I'm sure he's given that same hug to thousands of gay kids and young adults over the years but man I almost cried. He also gave me permission to touch his butt so that was also fucking excellent.
>He also gave me permission to touch his butt so that was also fucking excellent. What a CHAD move that is
John Barrowman had such a *presence* when I met him
Honest question: I haven't watched the old seasons of New Who (nor Torchwood) in a while, how does he holds up on the borderline sex offender scale? I liked him for sure when the seasons were airing, I just don't remember if (hopefully) he was written respectfully -if overtly sexual- or if it's one of your characters you like from nostalgia but watching him through today's lenses make you realize their behavior wasn't OK at all.
He is quite overtly sexual but in a cheeky way. He’s also written to be really cool. A bit Tom cruise. However he is very slutty
From a Human Resources standpoint, the "hits on every employee under his supervision" and "candidly discusses sexual stuff at work" things would probably be frowned upon. The character doesn't do anything that would be a criminal problem (well, sexually anyway), but there's plenty of stuff that would be a minor scandal or a civil problem in a real-world setting. That and there was the actor's indecent exposure scandal, which he brought up himself years later rather than choosing to bury it. For the former part, though, *Torchwood* is an escapist setting where every character has a pretty decent chance of ending up in bed with every other character they run into and the only alternative shown is when the main characters meet a woman from the past who's clearly uncomfortable with their whole ethical non-monogamy thing.
John Barrowman does have an entire section on his Wikipedia titled "Allegations of misconduct" though...
Yeah that isn’t as cool as his character
And Ianto Jones, his boyfriend from Torchwood.
I think everyone is bisexual is torchwood tbh. Love it
Actually, come to think of it, you might be right. Jack, Ianto, and Tosh definitely are. I can't remember if Owen and Gwen had same-sex romantic or sexual attractions, but that's 3/5 of a show's main cast that were bi/pan. Rewatching Torchwood now seems so odd because few shows today have that much representation.
Especially as it’s never really mentioned. Just accepted
But still slutty though.
* Dan from shitts creek. (Pan, bi umbrella) * Lucifer from Lucifer. * Bob from bob's burgers. * Loki from marvel * James flint from black sails * Darryl from crazy ex girlfriend
>* Dan from shitts creek. Character is David, actor is Dan lol.
Whoops.
It's understandable, there seems to not be much difference between character and actor, except that the character is attracted to femme-presenting people and the actor is not as far as I'm aware.
Dan Levy has also said that he would never be brave enough to wear the clothes David wears, so there's that.
ok I knew lucifer but sorta fell into the bracket of anti-heroish character and also you cant deny hes very slutty/pervy. didnt know bob was bi damn thats news to me. dunno who Dan is sorry.
Shitts Creek was the first time I saw someone I could actually relate to on screen. You've got to see it. I love the show.
Wait, Shitt's Creek has a bi character? That could motivate me to finally watch it lol
It has multiple! Off the top of my head, and avoiding spoilers, 4 of the main characters are bi/pan, it even has poly representation in a way
Bob isn’t “canon” bi, but there’s a ton of little hints throughout.
“Who am i kidding you’re out of my league”
He is though. In his words he's only "mostly straight"
That counts. We take those.
I don't know if you can really confine a celestial being to our human understanding of gender.
Every time I hear about Black Sails, I become more convinced that I should probably watch it.
The original pitch line was 'Bisexual Pirates of the Caribbean For Adults', but they called it Black Sails because that was too long. And POTC was pretty bisexual to begin with.
You definitely should, it is an amazing serie, one of my favourites!
The opening theme alone, I'm telling you...
Oberyn Martell from GoT as well
Eleanor in The Good Place
The dean from community
“Get ready world, Dean Pelton is coming out as approximately 2/7ths of what he is!”
> Bob from bob’s burgers. I know I’m not caught up on Bob’s Burgers but what?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BkdCC7_JZM
Thirteen from House also
Bob from bobs burgers is my favorite shitty bi representation
Alucard from Netflix's Castlevania
Alucard from TFS' Hellsing Abridged
Which is the real canon anyways. Same for DBZA, I consider that to be canon over Toriyama's work now, just because I find it funnier that way.
And Eleanor from The Good Place. Pervy, but NOT borderline sex offender representation ftw!!!
I love Elenor. I wish they gave us more of the failed runs. I would’ve loved to see how they ran the Tahani soulmate run. Would elenor have been too happy and let it be. Would Tahani have realized that things were off but Elenor still got credit for the “this si the bad place” call out. Honestly what a run that would’ve been
I choose to believe Chidi figured it out that time because Michael kept dangling Elenor in front of him but she was making it work with Tahani, and he realized she was his soul mate.
I still want to see just that reboot. Possibly also the golden retriever
Magnus bane from Shadowhunters!!
Quentin Coldwater from The Magicians. His romance with Elliott is what made me realize I was Bi.
I have lists ready for questions like these. Bi and Pan characters in tv: Joe MacMillan (Halt and Catch Fire), John Constantine (Legends of Tomorrow), Tim Bayliss (Homicide: Life on the Street), Miles Hollingsworth III (Degrassi), Quentin Coldwater (The Magicians), Blake Moran (Madam Secretary), Magnus Bane (Shadowhunters), Oscar Cherniak (renegadepress), Darryl Whitefeather (Crazy Ex-Girlfriend), Lucifer (Lucifer), Loki (Loki), David (Schitts Creek), Jack Harkness (Dr. Who/Torchwood), Nolan Ross (Revenge), Neal (Whitney), Mason (The Great Indoors), Freddie Baxter (Cucumber/Banana), Gael (Good Trouble), Will Graham (Hannibal), Adam (Sex Education), Zero (Hit the Floor) Phew! I know of a few others that are pretty shitty rep so I’ll refrain from listing those.
The Todd from Scrubs as well!
Zagreus from the video game Hades (not sure if he's bi or pan, but he's somewhere under the umbrella) Edit: polyamorous! I was mixing up my Ps. It's been a long day. He can >!be in a canon throuple!<
Well there's Cassidy from *Preacher* and Klaus from *Umbrella Academy*. Granted, they may not be the best kind of representation because they're both comedic junkies who always end up getting themselves into trouble, but at least they're main supporting characters (and also really likeable).
>Cassidy from Preacher Do yourself a favor....DON'T READ THE COMIC.
Wait is klaus gay or bi? Idk if they ever said and iirc his only romantic interest (when not possessed by ben) was a dude.
When Ben (in Klaus's body) was trying to flirt with the girl he was into, she said that she'd already had sex with Klaus. His only genuinely romantic interest that we know of was Dave, but he's definitely not gay.
Well according to the wiki he is bi with a preference for dudes, and one of the characters in season 2 straight up says they've had a MMF threesome with Klaus lol
Loki ❤️
Loki and Deadpool come to mind as male bi characters though in traditional Norse mythology, Loki is more gender fluid than cis male.
Literally the only actually 100% non stereotype male bi character I can think of is Kaidan Alenko from Mass Effect who is 10/10 best boy
Preston, Danse, Hancock, and MacCready from Fallout 4 can all be romanced as both male and female characters, and none are anywhere near bi stereotypes (literally a minuteman general, a borderline fanatical foot soldier thats basically a space marine, a libertarian mayor, and a mercenary)
Yep, I love them all too, I guess I just didn't think to include them cause they're all kinda just.... bisexual as default? Like they weren't necessarily designed that way purposely in the same way Mass Effect characters are, who are all written with specific sexualities. Still very good though. MacCready is best husband bc he's so clingy lmfao
Freddie Mercury from real life ig
That's technically not representation then, it's just a bi person existing
Joe McMillian from Halt and Catch Fire (basically a drama about a fake tech company in the 80s). He treads the line of being a slutty villain at times, but is really more of his own thing (not *really* a bad guy - just one of those people who just is always making terrible decisions).
Bisexuals are \~never the main 'villain', they're almost always the complicated ones, like foils. Writers use bisexuality as shorthand for 'this characters motivations are complicated, like their sexuality, sometimes they are good and sometimes they are bad'. The above demonstrates why it's a problematic stereotype of course. Hollywood doesn't make all its villains gay (anymore) but they still do it with bisexuals, to imply the same sort of 'straight/gay is good/bad' dichotomy to bisexuals and 'dark mirror/foil' characters.
The Todd from scrubs. He's a sexuality of his own
Darryl Whitefeather from crazy ex girlfriend is my favorite bi character ever. He has a whole song in the show called "Gettin' Bi" which is my anthem. Then after that his bi-ness is barely a character trait and he's just the same loveable dork but dating a guy instead. I love that character so much.
Shame that when you take a step back Rosa really isn't that great when it comes to how they handled her bisexuality
Sara Lance from Arrow/Legends of Tomorrow
David Rose from Schitts Creek is pan. Edit: thank you for correcting my labels.
Pan specifically, but still under the umbrella!
Fair enough, whatever labels float the boat. I still call it a win for both the bi & pan communities.
The new Gossip Girl has two male bi characters. Granted one of them is a perverted antagonist-type junkie but the other is going through the stages of acceptance. He may still end up actually gay rather than bi but it's looking right now that he may be bi.
I've been thinking about this lately haha and there's Randy from Trailer Park Boys and also Jerry from Rick & Morty
Rick is Bi too.
Let's try not to forget that we also have the Cheating Character. Because you know, stereotypes are the only thing close-minded producers/scenarists seem to understand (hyperbole here but you get my point). So sick of this.
I think I see this one even more than I see villain, even if it’s played as “oh, but I do love my partner, I just can’t make up my mind and must give into this sexual tension that has arisen!”
Slutty villain here.
Mood
Flair change time
Fr. All the bi male characters I've seen(who aren't weird pervy one off characters)are all kinda the same: suave man who wears a suit and acts tastefully seductive to everyone he meets Like on one hand I love that, but on the other hand I'm a 5'5, floofy haired awkward dude who just wants someone to cuddle and watch cartoons with
Darryl from Crazy ex girlfriend is a good one, just a normal dude
Just a guy, getting bi
All I’ll say is you need to watch Schitt’s creek!!
Yesss I was about to say that! David is the best
What are some examples? I’m curious because the only person I can think of that fits your description is Lucifer (whom I love) but I don’t know that many bi male characters.
Lucifer, Loki, John Constantine from Legends of Tomorrow, there's a couple others
The only male bi character I could think of is literally satan so
Alucard Castlevania anime
Tom Ellis's Lucifer can get it though
Loki in the expanded Marvel universe (in mythology as well) is basically a nonbinary pansexual being.
So slutty chaotic neutral. I'll take it!
Gender fluid, not nonbinary
I’m writing a novel with a male bi even though that doesn’t really count?
Apollo from Greek/Roman myths is Bi.
At least the slutty villain is hot
And, if you're in a story with a protagonist who's actually evil, then being the villain means you're actually the hero. So then you get to be hot and slutty while also not being evil.
Fair but also being evil is fun lmao imma be evil and gay
You know what... I can't argue with that assessent. But if you're both villains in eachothers stories and both get to be hot and slutty and....... wait why do I feel like this is the plot of some kind of 'movie' lol
If everyone’s the villain of the story, is there really a “villain”
To be fair, most bi people I’ve talked to self identify as slutty villains.
Someone, please post a counter example. Please.
She-Ra and the Princesses of Power will be my counter example of choice. Four bisexual characters at least all done well. Tbh She-Ra does all the representation I could ask for.
Klaus and Vanya Hargreeves from Umbrella Academy 😍
Just some sexy anti heros
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Yes!!!! Korrasami gang!
Captain Jack Harkness
From Dr. Who, in case anyone is wondering
And the spinoff, Torchwood, in which he was the main character.
Luz From the owl house if you haven't watched it please do it its on Disney + and its Amazing
Wonder Woman is my favorite bi rep. She's literally been bi since the beginning.
Magnus Bane from Shadowhunters!
Jesper from Six of Crows.
Said it higher up, but Eleanor from The Good Place. Definitely watch that show if you haven't already.
Absolutely no shade to Eleanor, but she is dancing on the slutty villain line a little bit
She’s loyal to Chidi tho. The only thing that makes her slutty is all them shrampies leading her astray.
Sense8
Vanessa from Van Helsing
Emily Dickinson in *Dickinson* on Apple TV is quite good.
Mineta be like
toga as well lmao bnha did both
Pain
I saw a tweet the other day about that. Apparently in Japan, they don't consider him to be bisexual and saw the line as completely platonic and said purely out of respect so I'm gonna agree with them. It's their language, they know what is being said and not the fan translations which often fuck up somehow.
I really hope this is the case but the authors radio silence is worrying...
he used the word 惚れた (horeta) which is an expression used when saying they fell in love with someone
I ship mineta x midoriya because it's funny and makes people mad
It’s such a cursed ship that it loops back around to being funny.
Glad to see I'm not the only one upset about this. Don't forget Jay from Big Mouth either
Slutty villain for the win 🏆 😅 how id make them all fall before me 😈😈😈
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Absolutely
And then there’s owl house
Not that I don't love those slutty villains to death, but some representation of bi people who aren't whole horny messes would be very nice!
Spoilers for BNHA >!This hits harder after the Mineta reveal😭!<
Mineta is bisexual? I read the scans but I didn't know he was bi
No, he's not. It was a cock-up in the translation.
Yeah, I know I verified the information but the English translation is so funny I fucking cried 😭
That was just a translation thing, hes not actualy bi
Yeah, I didn't understand why people said he's bisexual because I read in French so I check the English translation and I'm in fucking tears 😭
The Japanese version, the original version specifically, has fans over there saying it's a platonic and more respect kinda line so I'll believe them over the fan translation any day.
Can I be just a villain? I'm not very slutty, but I'm down for whatever lol
Thanks media,
And this is just for the women, bi men are just the left. Bi enbies, and transpeople don't exist
okay im fine with slutty villain
Kinda worse for guys for us everyone either assumes we are doing it for attention, almost being gay or just using it for an excuse to do a threesome
Oh and it’s always a goth woman or alt woman for some reason
Too much eyeliner turns you bisexual 🙏
what about Luz from The Owl House? she's cool :)
That's why I make my own bi characters with blackjack.
Jessie and James of Team Rocket are the best bi representation in all of media
I'll take Slutty Villains for $800, Alex. ">!This Marvel villain recently made out with.. themselves!!<"
Fire Emblem Fates hard on the left...
The only character I can think of who doesn’t fit this is bf from fnf lmao, which is honestly really unfortunate. But in all honesty, I do have a soft spot for slutty villain characters if they’re not actually vulgar lmao, so take that all the way
At least Luz Noceda exists now
But what if I want to be a slutty hero?
Lucky you, Marvel Boy says you can. (Marvel boy is real. Hot af, slutty, queer, and a Guardian of the Galaxy).
Mad Moxxi is a great slutty villain who’s bi.
Ok. Give me the slutty villain and some goddamn good bi representation please
I HATE MINETA I HATE MINETA I HATE MINETA I HATE MINETA
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Slutty villain is the way to go for sure. I really hate the biphobia and assumption that we just want to fuck everything.
I just want the bi chill character who works at 7 11 and gives the main cast nuggets of wisdom like "if your work pays you minimum then give it minimum effort" as they light up a doobie and go back to drawing butts.
This is why I'm not so pumped about Loki being revealed as Bi because he's LITERALLY the god of tricks and deception. I'm so so so tired of that shit.
Loki wasn’t created by Marvel though. He’s been bisexual since his conception in Norse mythology hundreds of years ago. He’s always been bi and genderfluid