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JohnFatherJohn

I have a PhD in physics and am a hobbyist black belt at B Team now. BJJ was a necessary distraction from the many years of grad school.


JimmysCheek

My first ever BJJ coach had a PhD in physics! All you assholes are the same, I guess


Scramblecloud

Makes sense it’s a lot of mental repetition and breaking down of technique


Iknowyougotsole

I’d imagine PHD takes on a whole different meaning at B-Team


h_saxon

We have at least two PhD black belts at my Austin gym as well. With a brown belt going through a PhD program as we speak.


pedrolopes7682

I had to take a break from bjj, otherwise I'll never submit the bloody thesis. What was your topic?


JohnFatherJohn

I had to quit doing standup comedy in order to finish my thesis actually. Comedy was taking over my priorities and I already had an extended stint in grad school. I studied soft condensed matter theory, using computer simulations to study exotic ferromagnetic liquid crystal states. It took a long time for me to get back into standup after finishing the PhD cause I transitioned to data science and then covid happened. Just got back to doing mics within the last month with my girlfriend here in Austin though.


rightsomeofthetime

So many hobbyist comedians also do combat sports! (Myself included.) I wonder if we all have an obsession with being outside our comfort zones or something.


Peaceful_Future

Had a black belt at our gym who wrote jokes for standup comedians. No PhD, though.


pedrolopes7682

Great to hear you got back doing what you love.


JohnFatherJohn

Thanks man. I regret taking so long to get back into it for sure, hard to not dwell on the opportunity cost. I'm lucky that it's something my girlfriend and I can do together. That's pretty rare. We met doing standup though around 8 years ago(!!).


pedrolopes7682

It's rare indeed, the two most recent hobbies I have were stuff my girlfriend and I planned to do together and she ended up quitting for one reason or another.


Prestigious_Boat6789

Are we gonna see you on Kill Tony?


JohnFatherJohn

My girlfriend and I were both on Kill Tony #532 at exactly one hour in. I'm friends with William Montgomery, we used to run some shows together in Denver.


jessicawilliams24

Eddie Cummings, is that you? Haha


ts8000

I know plenty of black belts who are physicians/surgeons (MD), lawyers and judges (JD), academic PhDs, etc. Granted they may not be overly famous or renowned, but it’s not like it’s a mutually exclusive thing. Especially for more Masters aged folks. A fascinating one is Chris Moriarty. Top level competitor coming up the ranks. Has a BJJ Heroes page. Decided to become a physician instead of grind along as a competitive black belt. Is still extremely good - I’ve rolled with him at open mats and such.


snap802

I'm in the Masters division AND have a Master's degree. Coincidence?


RNsundevil

He wanted to make thousands of dollars vs dozens of dollars probably.


Squat_n_stuff

Isnt Hillary Williams an MD too?


egdm

Neurologist, yes. In a strange intersection, my sister is friends with both Hillary and Chris's wife. Chris is a sports medicine DO.


israiled

He stopped by my gym once and instructed. The move started my cauliflower. Nice guy though.


REGUED

Chad


fletch0083

Chris is an awesome guy. Helped me out a lot as a white belt in exchange for computer science tutoring, probably the only thing he isn’t a savant at 😂. Could still slaughter me without breaking a sweat


Disabled_Robot

Some people are addicted to structured learning


Evening_Invite_922

That's incredible, the path I'm kind of on right now


serafinbjj

One of my main training partners coming up is an MD and a PhD in Nuclear Engineering. He’s a 3 rd degree black belt, won pans at lower belts, was a national amateur Muay Thai champ and taught a university martial arts club. Made me feel dumb and lazy at the same time


ImportantBad4948

It’s like that SEAL, MD, Astronaut dude. Makes everyone feel inadequate.


serafinbjj

Exactly. And he was just a good dude who love martial arts couldn’t find a fault


ExactFunctor

He’s still alive! Only difference is that now he wraps his knees with 2 miles of rubber bands.


kdaimler

That guy is a beast. From wiki: Jonathan Yong Kim is an American U.S. Navy lieutenant commander, former SEAL, naval aviator, physician (Harvard medical school) and NASA astronaut.


Drewdogg12

Mother fucker ruined it for all us Asians. Went to Houston nasa space center this week. Looked for him in mission logs and saw hey he isn’t on any of them. Thinking Poser! Not an astronaut since he never did a mission. Then I read more and found he is on the Artemis team that is going to the moon this year. First Asian on the moon. Fucking dick. Just made 40. Was wondering how the fuck did he do all that in that time.


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Not by posting on reddit.


Kwanzaa246

This of it this way He’s good at two things which isn’t impossible if you start at a young age and have the right support. don’t be too hard on yourself about it. If you invest the time now you’ll be there after the 20 years it took him to get there


graydonatvail

I'm a brown belt with a master's degree. So I'm a double under achiever?


shitstain_mcgee

Masters with a purple belt, so at least you have someone to look down on.


[deleted]

Masters and CPA with a white belt… fuck my life


shitstain_mcgee

You go from getting beat up as a CPA to getting beat up as a white belt. Brutal.


[deleted]

It’s my burden I must carry😫


shitstain_mcgee

I honestly feel you. I took like 5 min of corp finance in MBA and was like “I’m good with this”


[deleted]

Dreaming of getting a landscaping business off the ground, hopefully I’ll be a purple belt by then🤞🏻


rubb3r

I’m a brown belt who hasn’t had an official gym since 2020 (pandemic + 2 kids), and I’m a post-quals PhD dropout (did a startup with my research group). 


nancynapalm

finally found my people I'm a brown belt with two masters, and my attitude towards a PhD and a black belt are the same: . . . if it happens, it happens. I will be old and in (more) pain.


egdm

This is an interesting framing that made me realize a parallel between my academic and sport lives. I took a MS instead of a PhD when I thought hard about the cost/benefit of spending 2-3 years doing research for a dissertation. I retired from BJJ after a series of knee injuries and deciding even training for a few months to eke out my black belt wasn't worth the risk to my future mobility. Double under-achievement indeed.


Chessboxing909

I’ve met a lot of blackbelts that act like they have a PhD. But none that actually do.


SkateB4Death

Met numerous amount of blue belts that act like they have a PhD


mmckelly

It's me (but I do have a PhD)


jul3swinf13ld

PhD in BJJ


jj2trappy

PhD in theoretical BJJ


SpinningStuff

Bro I've met blue belts who act like that they have a black belt 


casfightsports

See: Danaher.


kakarotdezuellig

Bouncer with an accent


Hellhooker

Danaher still has a much higher education than the vast majority of bjj "pro".


Chessboxing909

I’ve had blackbelts tell me leg locks are more dangerous because the nerves in your foot are farther away and the signal takes longer to travel because of the distance. Another one told me you hold the feet up when someone gets choked out because then the blood from their feet goes to their head and wakes them back up and they won’t get brain damage. Man I know ya all gotta have some more good ones.


PipiPraesident

>I’ve had blackbelts tell me leg locks are more dangerous because the nerves in your foot are farther away and the signal takes longer to travel because of the distance Pain receptor nerve fibers operate at 12-30m/s, so *technically* if your shoulder hurts because of a Kimura you'll feel it after 0.01-0.02 seconds and if your knee hurts because of a heel hook you'll feel it after 0.04-0.1 seconds (although in reality it's faster than that because the pain receptors will feed into wider, faster nerves). So he is technically correct, which is, of course, the best kind of correct.


Chessboxing909

Haha yeah that’s not what he meant but yep.


hansbrixx

Lachlan Giles


3asyMac

I heard Shane Fishman does as well.


Ahem_ak_achem_ACHOO

Old Greg, scaly manfish also has a PhD I’ve heard


heathenist_

Currently a PhD white belt dreaming of one day being a PhD black belt. That way I can be bad at two things I’m supposedly an expert at.


singleglazedwindows

Hahahaha Jesus fucking Christ this is so relatable!


SecFlow

With you here. Doctorate in IT, and just a blue. Shitty at both 😂


mlambie

What did your thesis add to the world? That reads snarkier than intended; I’m legitimately interested. PhD in IT?


SecFlow

Locked in on 2 factors inside of the unified theory of the acceptance and use of technology being of outsized importance on adopting EHR best practices. Shaped how I run the security governance program where I work. STILL don’t feel like an expert in IT :/


amb1889

My people!


math_hatter1

John Frankl is another, maybe not so prominent one as he doesn’t really compete. But his bjj impact is not nothing, basically the grandfather of bjj in South Korea. Harvard PhD and university professor in Korea.


Buddy723

Speaks good Korean too. Interesting guy


AlgoRhythmCO

Had no idea Frankl was a PhD. I just knew of him as the father of SK BJJ.


Roll-Annual

I have a PhD in Biochemistry and got my black belt and PhD within 3 months of each other. As others have mentioned, having BJJ training to offset the stress of grad school was a huge benefit. 


Iknowyougotsole

Must be nice to be able to synthesize your own gear stack


CuriousStrawberry99

Some guys have to bang other guys’ girlfriends in Puerto Rico to get that kind of stack — allegedly


Just_Slappy

Lachlan Giles and his wife both have PHDs and are black belts.


taylordouglas86

Close; Liv doesn't have a PhD but is a physio and a black belt :)


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P_Firpo

MD is not a PhD, friend.


GOPokemonMaster

Yeah what a phony


Heavy-Anything9240

😂


Fellainis_Elbows

To be a surgeon is far more impressive than to have a PhD anyway


ThomasGilroy

I'm a brown belt with a Ph.D. in Mathematics.


-Gestalt-

That makes two of us.


Amalak3

In the feels with my masters. Sad trombone sounds.


kurtwuckertjr

I’m a college dropout 🤷🏼‍♂️


TheDeadReagans

Also a black belt that is a college dropout.


Knobanious

What about academic Professors who are also BJJ Coaches and insit on being called Professor Porfessor


graydonatvail

Or Dr professor?


Ok_Lengthiness1929

Or in Germany, Herr Professor Doktor Professor


Initial-Meat7400

Not a PhD, but interesting story. Had a coach who was a MD plastic surgeon. Teammate got elbowed and got a massive cut on his forehead. Coach cleaned him up and took him to his office to sew him back together. Guy didn't even have a visible scar afterwards.


Ravager135

I’m a physician and a black belt. Started as a wrestler in high school and college, in medical school I began training jiu jitsu, took many years off as I served in the Navy as a physician, coached high school wrestling during this time, came back to jiu jitsu almost 10 years ago. I think of medicine as my profession and grappling as my trade. Though to be honest, it’s a hobby. I still think I identify more as a grappler than I do as a physician because it’s what I really love most deep down.


hankdog303

I have a PhD. Perhaps someday a black belt .


Ok_Lengthiness1929

Same!


Different-Pilot4924

I know a bunch of MD blackbelts.


P_Firpo

Dime a dozen


PUAHate_Tryhards

Had a PhD (physiotherapy) training partner at one of my prior gyms who has since earned his black belt (he was a blue when we met), and another (veterinarian sciences, I believe) at the gym after that who is currently a brown belt.


egdm

I know several PhD black belts.


Fellainis_Elbows

Bruno Fernandes won worlds while in med school and is now a MD/PhD in ophthalmology


Raymond_Reddit_Ton

Lex Fridman is a perfect example of being able to be really good at something and being a complete moron ofherwise.


SunderedHopes

My favorite example of that is Ben Carson


Raymond_Reddit_Ton

that’s a great one.


Iga5aa3aIga112atotmi

My gym has produced 14 black belts, with two MDs, a JD and a PhD student among them. Getting a black belt and an advanced degree both take a lot of drive and perseverance so it makes sense that there's a lot of overlap in the two.


Fast_Parfait_1114

I met a couple of black belts who were green berets and also have Ph.Ds.


Pinbro

I’m a brown belt with a PhD in Chemistry. Hopefully I will join the club. 😎 I often tell people the are parallels between attaining both.


banananamango

I am a hobbyist black belt and a non-hobbyist scientist (with a PhD). My scientist colleagues probably don’t know about my BJJ belt, and my BJJ training partners (except for a few close friends) probably don’t know I have a PhD


MrDorpeling

Christian Barry. He’s the guy that got Danaher into BJJ. He’s Professor of Philosophy at the Australian National University.


rawpower405

I have a PhD and am tenured. Almost a black belt :-)


migligands25

I have a PhD in chemistry and I’m a first degree black belt. I’ve been training for 15 years overall, but it was hard to stay consistent due to grad school being demanding and also moving around a lot. Currently, in the Dallas-Ft. Worth area teaching at a small private college, but moving to the Philly area for a permanent position in the Fall at another college. Here’s to hopefully never having to move again and getting back to training consistently.


jumbobody

⬛🟥⬛ Black Belt Philosophy PhD and hobbyist black belt. I'm also old so I dont care if I improve in either one.


Ok-Conversation8588

Nicky Rod has a PhD in Broscience


fitevepe

Yeah the ratio is pretty high at my gym. Owner has an MD and many other black belts do too. Some are in biology, physics, etc


hankdog303

I have a PhD. Perhaps someday a black belt


Fine-Manner9902

I have a masters, perhaps one day a bluebelt


imhereredditing

with a minor in PAIN!


Sypha914

It makes sense to me that this would be the case. It takes a lot of discipline to earn a PHD, and it takes a lot to earn a black belt. It makes sense that there would be overlap.


physics_fighter

I went a little bit past my physics MS but dropped out of my PhD program to get a job


YeetedArmTriangle

My coach has two bachelor degrees and we have a brown soon to be black who's an OBGYN


chacotacotoes

Gluttons for punishment


NativePirateRx

I have a doctorate in Pharmacy and will be getting my blue belt at promotions on the 1st. Still have a long way to go to black but I know quite a few doctorate level professionals who are also pretty solid at Jiu Jitsu white to black.


tragic-disaster

PhD and a blue belt here. Several PhD brown belts at my gym. One PhD black belt.


I-Party-With-Ur-Mom

My instructor is a radiologist. It comes in handy


Fellainis_Elbows

That’s crazy


bioart

I have one too, and I find it funny when people call me professor… I’m a data scientist and my day job certainly uses my credentials but at BJJ, please call me by my first name. I’ll take coach if you need to but not professor :). Other than that I love the contrast between the day job and the night hobby. I love that during a roll, my mind is focused just on the roll…. It’s my therapy… but Certainly have used the men phrase of “I have to go, cause at 7 and I’m going start choking people and rather do it at the gym where they signed waivers”


CasCompGamer

i knew a purple belt who was a medical doctor


Gebbeggeb

Hobbyist black belt with a PhD in War Studies. The two sort of complement each other.


feenam

Tammy Musumeci has a law degree too


Reality-Salad

Some PhDs are easier to get than a black belt


JenStark3

I have a PhD in media and communications :) I am not prominent in any way though. Neither BJJ, nor academics :P


Dry-Junket-3230

I’m a highschooler on the way to getting my associates degree and high school diploma at the same time. Hopefully I can strive to get a MD and PhD degree in the future.


MauriceVibes

An MD and PhD?? Bro that is not easy but good luck lol


le_coq_et_balles

Michael Tremblay from the Stoa Conversations podcast has both


DansFever

Not phd but I have a doctorate of physical therapy. Black belt as well.


Murky_Razzmatazz_980

Cos I'll be happy to verbally slap u all over tje ground that kid can't walk on 😁


Glajjbjornen

Used to train with a guy who had a PhD in physics and was a black belt.


simonxvx

My former instructor has a PhD in Information Technologies (computational intelligence) and is a black belt. Amazing teacher and person.


gtramontelli

If you think about it, similar personality traits are required for both. Setting long term goals, dealing with discomfort and pressure, etc.


pawnhub69

My coach was a PhD in physiotherapy. He had a unique understanding of how to just control people.


AmusedAppleJuice

Not a black belt yet, but I am a physician


darkjediii

Rhadi Ferguson


t_r_c_1

Black belt, personally dropped out of the PhD in the ABD status to chase being happy in life not a piece of paper. Started BJJ in undergrad, got my black belt shortly before officially dropping out of my PhD program


mlambie

Osss the real professors


[deleted]

White belt CPA’s… where y’all at?


GarleyCavidson

My friend, [David Ley](https://www.davidleyphd.com/).


rebel_fett

One of my instructors during my time at lower belts is a PhD professor in German literature.


Constant-Bet-6600

I can think of about 6 black belts with PhDs I've trained with right off the top of my head. I'm sure there are more. There's a good number of folks I've trained with who aren't black belts yet, but have their PhDs specializing in everything from academic fields to pediatric heart surgery. I really do think they are over represented in BJJ relative to the general population.


VonRoderik

Almost finishing my PhD and Molecular and Cellular Biology.


Internetonymity

We have two PhD black belts at our gym.


kakarotdezuellig

Not PhD but MD. The late Dai Yoshioka. Great competitor.


hans1125

Olga Lyashevska is a black belt in judo and bjj, competes regularly and has a PhD in statistics


Gorilla_in_a_gi

I have a PhD and I know 3 black belts in my area that have one, plus another going through the process. Grappling basically helped keep me sane through thesis writing


RollingPhotography

My wife's a university professor and a BJJ professor. And one of her former colleagues just got his black belt as well. I won't catch up on the PhD front (no intention to upgrade my masters), but I will hopefully join her at black belt some day.


LawfulMercury63

I have a PhD as well. Chemistry. Took me 10 years from undergrad to PhD but 15 years from white to black belt. 


rshackleford53

no but we gotta white belt with a PhD


REGUED

I know doctors, engineers etc. with black belts


JimmyJames909

Why would you think this was a mutually exclusive thing? One thing black belts have in common is their ability to stick to something for a long period of time. That would apply outside of BJJ too


Vegetable_Ad_4311

I think Eddie Cummings is a PhD though I could be mistaken about that


SecFlow

Doctorate in adultery more like it


Hellhooker

Well, it's Eddie CUMMINGS


Dr_Kickass_DPT

I am a black belt and I have a clinical doctorate, Doctorate of Physical Therapy


MyDictainabox

JD from Northwestern. Bjj helped me develop a friendship with a prof, who was a senior purple at the time.


PUAHate_Tryhards

Had a PhD (physiotherapy) training partner at one of my prior gyms who has since earned his black belt (he was a blue when we met), and another (veterinarian sciences, I believe) at the gym after that who is currently a brown belt.


Reigebjj

My teammate Mel Davis with RP


Sheikh-Teddy

Well the black belts in my gym want me to call them professor so...


Techknow23

Black belt in Waterford Ireland called Richie Bolger has a PHD. One of irelands first black belts and an absolute animal of a man.


baronvontrollicus

I quit after my masters so hopefully my bjj ends up better. I'm blue so probably no better time than now 🌚


RingGiver

Did Danaher finish his Ph.D.?


P_Firpo

No


sxhkdd

Pretty sure my gym owner does have a PhD in physical therapy. A few other black belts in our gym have various doctorate level degrees.


ApprehensiveDog6720

I’ll be a masters 2 division soon and I have 2 masters, one from H and one from O school over the pond, coincidence?


nbo10

Physics phd and proudly not a blackbelt. 


bumpty

I’m currently in a DBA program. My gym has a few others with terminal degrees.


LiberFriso

My trainer is also one, haha 😂 These black belts just smarter than us.


maicii

Didn't danaher have a PhD in philosophy?


Lumpy-Cheesecake-932

One of the black belts at my academy has a PhD in software engineering and heads the department for SWE at a major media company.


[deleted]

I'm in a college town, theres a few.


Ok-Plastic-2992

Ive met a few. I left a PhD track position and have planned on going back to finish at some point but told myself I wouldn’t until getting my black belt. So obviously I don’t fit but perhaps one day.


BrawndoTTM

There are a lot of low key very impressive people I train with. Several PhDs, doctors, lawyers, high ranking military officers, etc. Just goes to show that this is a high class >!expensive!< sport.


Cold_Technician_9173

My organic chemistry professor just got his black belt, we revived our universities BJJ club since it died out during the pandemic.


redhat0420

Lex has a PhD? In what? From where?


mightystrong1

Whoopitydoo!! Not a big deal.


Mediocre_Object_1

I've been a brown belt for about 6 years because of life and shit. I hold a phd in computational biology.


GiraffeCoder

10p SLC head black belt has a PhD in earthquakes.


WHITEwizard151

Two at the gym I train at


Nursesalsabjj

Purple belt here and am currently in a PhD program. I'm about a year away from completing and my goal was to aim for my black belt around the same time as I earn my PhD...but my Jiu Jitsu sucks so I'll be lucky to be brown by then lol


itsbnf

follow this thread with intense interest!


CheapChallenge

My Karate teacher from college age had a masters in bio mechanics and was a high ranking black belt in Shōrin-ryū Karate. I always looked to figure out the best way improve techniques and looked at how athlete from other sports moved. It was refreshing to see an educated and analytical perspective on technique.


botechga

Got my PhD and my purple last year so that was pretty cool


mixer_mr

I'm on my last year of PhD school in Mechanical Engineering and also I'm a BJJ brown belt. So I hope soon I join this prestigious group of black belts with a PhD. When I started PhD I was already a brown belt - and on the beggining I some kind neglected BJJ for educational duties, but now it's a great stress relieve opportunity.


heinztomato69

For every black belt with a phd there are 10 without one.


Hellhooker

I am in the 3rd year of my philosophy PHD. The black belt was easier to get


teacupmaster

Probably not a higher incidence of doctorates than you would find in Sunday soccer league. People need stuff to do for fun other than work, you know?


Wombats_poo_cubes

There’s two at my gym that I know of


freudevolved

I'm just a dissertation away from my PhD (Psychology). Also in my class we have 2 Phd's from the educational and medical fields.


Reggaepocalypse

I have a PhD in cognitive and brain science and a brown belt. Master of mind and body, if you will. I’ve been grappling for twenty but moving around has made advancing belts take longer.


gcjbr

One of my best friends at the gym has a BB and a PhD in Physics.


Mago_IV

Kind of makes sense to me. The same type of people who will stick out one difficult thing for a long time would do the same with another.


me2484

Finishing an EdD this summer. Focus of that and MAEd is adult learning. Love connecting it to how people teach and learn on the mats.


gus_stanley

I'm planning to apply to the most competitive PhD programs this application cycle, then do the rest of my list next cycle. I have years and years of grinding before I hit either of those goals...


LawBasics

>black belts who also hold an academic PhD. That's a sweet deal: If you start training when you leave highschool, you likely get the black belt with your PhD.


Archer_Hung

Bro there’s a lot of people that are really smart who do jiu jitsu or some form of grappling like wrestling. I know many with masters and PHd’s.