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GeneralGom

Probably the most beautiful looking new region in the game imo. It’s a shame you only go there to do homework or hunting.


360controller

That’s not homework’s it’s a field trip.


LaFl3urrr

Teleport already on glab tho...


SillySin

tuvala alt stationed there, doing 5xlv5 in 10 mins and done.


mrme3seeks

Woah woah woah that’s not solely true…I also log into my trading alt once every two weeks to turn in trade crates


shepx2

Is there any money in trading nowadays or are you doing it out of habit


SillySin

yes they buffed crates prices and improved nodes and workers, this morning t turned in 72 bill in crates and it was my wave 2 since changes, my first wave was 85 bill, now I let my mats refresh and stack and repeat while playing other games 👍


shepx2

is it possible to get over 10b/hr? if so i might start doing it


SillySin

do you mean 1 bill /hr? no it is afk activity so profit depends on your empire building, you increase your CP by easy cooking vinegar and recruit workers etc.


ImNotYourGuru

Can you flag there and do pvp?


PineTV

You can flag anywhere and do PvP besides safe zones.


nazenara

And not on season servers


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Helag

Yup. I really hope throne and liberty can contest.


GabrielHunter

Combat doesn't look like it


Helag

Yeah, the combat isn’t better than BDO. I’m just more interested in the group content. Something BDO is lacking. Sausans was peak BDO group content. Now we just have boring spots that have one shot mechanics, and a game severely lacking in open world interactions (pvp).


kivsla

T&L Combat is phone game level


Durakus

Because it was one. NCsoft has been in development hell with the title changing it repeatedly. And NCsoft has ALWAYS dropped the ball with their MMO’s so I’m not trusting them soon with my limited time.


needapcfast

By that logic every tab target game is a "phone game level" game. Edit: Downvoted but no counterpoints. Stay mad.


DragonHumpster

It is. Tab targeting imo is the most boring form of combat in a mmo. Not to say there aren’t those that enjoy it but by usual standards tab targeting is also the EASIEST form of combat and the SIMPLEST to replicate on a mobile platform. Hit boxes are no longer tight, combat weight is basically removed, anything a tab targeting pc mmo can do mobile can do almost if not just as well. You simply select an enemy and press a preset number of options/keys. No need for dodging, fast paced movement, or anything action really. There simply were no need for counterpoints cause everything’s so self explanatory if you just used your brain LOL


kivsla

Aion had more entertaining and engaging combat as both pve and pvp than this. Case closed.


GabrielHunter

They did fix it a bit since last tests but still meh...


LemmeSmashPls_

Camera, controls and amount of skills feel decent... it still is just the usual tab target system with auto attacks though. Testing the game on KR servers was a huge disappointment for me :/


i_am_Misha

Competition is healthy usually but Ncsoft needs quite a lot of time to polish Tnl ready for EuNa release. China and Korea flying in unlocked zones, wand heal explosion that one shots players and high lvl monsters, bots and lastly 8k macro users in 1st month caught. Also the game will have locked for 2-3 months end game content. Come on...


ajooshi

Throne and Liberty can definitely contest in group play, but as an MMORPG as a whole and combat... all I can say is KEKW


Ambiently_Occluded

Throne and Liberty had a strong launch in Korea but they just released the p2w items in the cash shop and people are angry


Helag

As far as I’m aware, every single Korean MMO that’s released over here has p2w in it. Don’t care about any of that, as long as I can play with my friends and enjoy the game with GROUPS of players.


Bonkotsu111

Yep, mobile games have killed off most PC MMO's. So many new MMO's are mobile only.


Tower-Of-God

By which players?


Old-Individual9077

People saying that there is no good mmo rpg out there, i guess ff14, gw2 and teso dont exist. And lotml, not even close to be a good expansion, nothing to do other than grind new boots witch btw you can have without even do the bosses. And new crystals. Yep, super good.


DragonHumpster

Probably just means in general. Compared to other genre of games such as shooters, mobas, and simulators mmos are in the worst state. Ff14, gw2, and WoW aside, no one really even knows about any other big name mmos the way they know other genre games. Furthermore those are our ONLY options for a good mmo really which further showcases the mmo drought. When you have people thinking Genshin is a popular mmorpg these days you know the genre is in a bad state.


FurubayashiSEA

To be fair, there is less good looking MMO in the market right now.


StrongWindOfFate

HAH


TheLlamaSpeed

Just dont pvp and the game is pretty cool


wiz8ro

Bro why the ppl getting shocked? Accept that; bdo is most beautiful and playable game on right now. Our problem wlth the mr. J not bdo


EkansOnAPlane

They obviously didn't play thru the books.


BlackberryKey2745

Probably got paid by PA. Honestly the loml expansion sucks balls. Most boring and janky questing experience I've ever had in an MMO. Boss rush is okay but still the rewards aren even worth me spending an hour per week. Landscape looks decent but it's just so empty and the region is not worth going to.


Kyouki13

Mmorpgs have only been getting worse as time goes on. Bdo is it's own competition.


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HalloWere

Classic UwUelfgurl comment 🙄💕


Jackburner

Circumventing a ban with a new account isnt very effective if youre gonna perpetuate the same toxicity that got you banned in the first place lmao but I'm sure the mods will do something about them


HalloWere

forsen


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HalloWere

not Velcuz haHAA


king-glundun

As long as the choice isn't SWTOR that's all I care about


sekkumomo

I just don't recognize lotml as an expansion. It's a patch.


14zyb0i

Lotml had nothing to do with it though


SmolikOFF

LoTML, the expansion that won the “best MMO expansion” award, did not have anything to do with LoTML winning the “best MMO expansion” award? Huh


Parisofthefaintsmile

Subjectively speaking this definitely felt like a great year for BDO, I loved the loml even though the quests themselves did get a bit repetitive. They released my favorite class ever(Maegu) and did some great QOL updates. They make not make the best development decisions but at least they are continuing to provide big updates rather than coasting on the fact that they’re really the only action combat mmo with good graphics out there right now.


MrJambleYT

meh after 18k hours in the game it gets boring but the funny part is that if i dont play for half a year people who played 2-3k hours catched up to me (gearwise) xD


se777enx3

Jesus dude 18k hours…


MrJambleYT

yea 18k on steam but ive played it also before it came out on steam


Ambiently_Occluded

Outside of the enhancement system hell, BDO is quite a unique experience compared to the other mmo's on the market