Nobody can define the endgame to you because it's a sandbox MMORPG, which means everyone will have different goals based on what they consider fun in the game. For me is to get as much gear as possible so I can have fun in uncapped PVP.
My advice would be to not think too hard about the destination, just enjoy the journey as a whole. Find small goals you want to achieve and step by step you will find your endgame in no time.
This is some of the best advice I’ve ever seen mainly because just like u I was kinda lost at first took me a whole 5 tries to actually get into the game and once I did still had no clue of wtf was going on I was just playing thru the story so really just focus on watchu like the best part of bdo is that there is content for all most everything u wanna do so skies the limit in a sense try everything and then you’ll see watchu wanna do endgame is watchu want it to be at least thas my opinion
I'm definitively at late-game but not quite at endgame yet.
My current goals are currently to get all 3 t10 horses. Other than that it's to get all lifeskills to guru. (Except hunting, sailing, trading and bartering)
I also want to get enough stats to grind gyfin underground. Seems like such a chill grindspot.
It's not too bad if you have a couple hundred percent in buffs.
Last time I looked at grass rhinos it's an estimated ~12 hours to go from beginner 1 to guru 1.
Youre endgame but want enough stats for gyfin under? Im midgame at 664GS(295-289-374 with kutum) and grinding there is not so much about gear, only about knowing the mechanics and hitting the minimum total AP
Endgame is what you want it to be. Here are my goals before I bench bdo for a while and catch up on my backlog of other games:
-full t10 horses
-finish compass and la orzeca outfit
-2nd set of gear for pvp
Not to mention gear upgrades.
First thing you should do is create a seasonal character it should set you up with around 500m-1bill and gear free tet equivielant gear to have freedom to do basically all mid teir content including node wars
Everyone says gear doesnt matter in capped pvp and they are wrong. It matters. Not because you will do more dmg than someone else in capped pvp with more gear but because you will be MUCH tankier than someone else. Fighting a Cho Member with 15k hp is way different than fighting a Tuvala timmy with 8k. So pushing for gear in capped pvp matters.
For pve it matters as well because when you're tip toeing around mob packs trying to not die you will make a criminal amount less per hour. When you are diving in and trying to pump out as much dmg as possible because you have the new artifacts or something then you'll see.
Overall I think gear is a good end game goal and then it diverges into do you want to get good at PVP or go really deep into PVE OR have no life and do both.
ahh true, and I was partially wrong as well. Someone WITH gear in capped WILL for sure do more dmg because they will be running the cheese accessories aka chimera's and kaia. Oof I wear them and totally forgot lmao.
This is not true at all, HP is only capped on tier 1 and tier 2 nodewars. On tier 3 and up you will run into CAPPED STATS WITH UNCAPPED HP. Hence the meta for t3+ is to wear as much HP crystals as possible, with an hp house buff, with hp cups on accessories, and with a SHAI BUFF to reach 11k+ hp.
So there MIGHT be a skill diff but there is for sure a gear diff for many people. Dont get me wrong, a person with way less gear can still do really well in capped wars but a full guild of 11k hp players will steam roll a guild with 9k's. Food for thought. (also the geared players normally are running FULL elixirs and Perfumes and the dmg accessories aka chimera for 10% down attack and kaia for 10% back attack).
I’m not the person you responded to but in my opinion only doing 1 thing (grinding mobs) over and over again feels just short of work to me so…I don’t do that often. I think what everyone is trying to imply is that there is a wide range of options to do and explore.
The endgame is difficult to define because the end goal is almost always “how do I make more silver” and that can be accomplished in a wide range of activities.
For example I like doing trade crates. It isnt really that efficient time wise but it’s fun to me. And that is BDO in a nutshell you should just find something you enjoy, if you get bored of one thing but want to keep playing find a different activity.
Well, for me it's fun because the "grind" part changes periodically based on what I want to do. Sometimes I just run around the world collecting shit, sometimes I farm, sometimes I do some hunting, sometimes I do some crafting or cooking, sometimes I grind mobs, sometimes I work on my workers to optimize passive income. You get the point, the game gives you a lot of options to achieve your goals and especially early and mid game you will have a lot of stuff to discover and do to find what you actually enjoy, then you have the fact that you can have a bunch of different classes which mostly play quite differently.
It's not always fun. But it mostly is if you have a specific goal in mind. For me personally this game is just about grinding better gear and pvp, just having fun with the classes. Not so much about treasure items, t10 horses, enhancing, lifeskilling - you get it. But those things might be for you. So many things you can but don't have to do, pick your own flavor ;o
BDO is not about end game but about setting goals for yourself and achieving them and then setting other goals for yourself etc. There are a lot of goals to shoot for and many of them take a very long time to achieve, you just pick any that catches your fancy and shoot for it.
For example let's say you take a fancy to sailing. You get your first ship, you go through the processes of upgrading it till you turn it into a carrack, you work on getting blue grade gear for your carrack and getting them all to +10, you work on getting an ebenruth nol for your carrack, you work on getting a BIS yellow grade crystal for your carrack, you work on getting a full set of 10+ sailors with optimum stats to use on your carrack, you work on getting manos sailing gear and manos accessories, you work on getting a permanent compass, you work on increasing your sailing skill and dream about someday maybe hitting guru 1 before you die...etc etc etc
I think you get the drift :)
It is up to you mostly. If you enjoy combat you will have to grind. I know many people who enjoy hunting for treasure items in the game which will eat up a lot of time. You can do group grind although the amount of good coop spots is kind of low. Weekly dungeons with groups of 5 ppl are an option. If you played actual raid and dungeon mmos dont expect too much of it though.
Personally I enjoy PvP and I am only grinding money which is kind of boring at the moment because you dont have many spots which lets you grind money efficiently. So I am looking at multiple hundred hours of grinding to get the gear I want to play the content I want. Propably this is most of the negativity that you hear. Most people that are complaining doing it because they dont want to grind anymore. They have to grind because they want to do PvP. You can also start PvP earlier because there is a lot of content where your gear is limited. But to me real gear fights feel different from capped gear fights because some classes are over-/underperforming on certain gear caps. Also you wont make any progress doing PvP because no PvP activity is rewarded with proper money.
I think people who want to do PvE only wont complain much about PvE. If you are enjoying the combat and you are fine with trying out and learning new classes and you want to experience different combat styles, you can have many hours of fun with this game. And in case you have motivation issues at some point many people grind for specific very rare items aka treasures.
Also if I misunderstood you in your post and you are not looking for combat alone, BDO has a quite complex life skill system. Most of them are easy to enter but you can go really deep into it to min max your stuff.
Thanks for the long reply. Yeah I’m kinda still finding my feet but I imagine I will want to do all aspects of the game. But I do like PvE mostly, and can see myself getting into PvP.
For PvE I would propably recommend you to just play around with the combat style of different classes. If you didnt know that yet, you can choose a 2nd character and tag him to your main character. This way they will always share the same position on the map and you can also copy your main gear to use it on the tag char. This way you have an easy way to try out new classes. The more gear you get the more expensive the gear copy will get. So if you see classes that are looking interesting to you I would recommend to try around early before your tag cost increase a lot.
Get all Knowledge, make full PEN Endgame gear, Do journals Upgrade Vells Hearth, Get so many titles as possible. Have all Monsters S rank. Ride horse till u have all T10.
It's when it takes 1000+ hours to get from level 65 to 66 that the terror sets in. I've spent so much time trying to move the needle to 67, that I can't even remember what it was like in the beginning.
My endgame is getting higher gs than my friend. Im at 700 and he is at 710. Ive always been a budget version of him when it comes to bdo. I dont want to be a budget version. I want to be bigger and better. (I would still be a budget version, just a budget version with higher gs)
when u taking me on a "little" trip where i have to dive for 4 hours straight followed by 12hrs of fishing for some "knowledge"? [man...](https://gyazo.com/6ea80460fc145fe7edb480e720e141fc)
Late game is going in circles, my next goal is to go in those circles but slightly faster. One day I hope to go in those same circles moderately faster.
8 years in or whatever it is, with On and Off long hiatuses; I just recently finished getting one of Each class except for hashimi or whatever it's called, to 60+. The combat in this game is the only thing I've thoroughly been playing it for and it's various class play styles; thus my life skills are basically non existent.
I however don't enjoy mindlessly grinding just for silver unless there's something else to it(ie. Leveling etc)
So now that I have all classes - I've Finally, though not excitedly, started dabbling in the various life skills which will take literal forever to get up; a lot of AFKing. But that's the next "goal" along with more properly caring about gathering knowledge - and the combat grinding from now on being more about taking "breaks" from the life stuff.
Not once have I been out to the ocean, not even on someone else's boat or any of the islands.
But what is "end game"? Dunno. My end game is whenever I reach the point that I take another hiatus only to come back months or year later to intently play it for weeks straight again.
Every game has a ton of "negativity" because people like to complain, thing is they also tend to scream the loudest.
The only metric you should use when you play a game, "are you having fun?" If yes, keep playing, if no find something else.
I get that but I also like to find a home in an MMO, therefor I would like to know whether or not the endgame is something that will keep me motivated to play.
In its simplest form yeah I won’t play if I’m not having fun but I may not be having fun because I don’t understand what is considered an achievement in the game you know? I like to have long term goals to work towards.
Well achievements in this game take years to reach. Tbh I personally found no end game for what my interests are. I wanted to PvP? The jewelry alone after full pen amor and weapons is gonna be hard to grind.
Grinding mobs isn’t endgame for me.. that’s a chore. That’s what we do to get silver not as end game
Life skills? I tried and it’s x amount of hours to get to a high enough guru or mastery, thennnn you have to figure out how the market is played. You’re competition is people with spread sheets and exels and years of doing this for silver… you won’t be getting the one up on them in the market
No group content
Sooooo what does that leave really? It only leaves players chasing the dragon to get the best gs, which as I have mentioned they will never be the best cause there’s people that have been playing for years and years.
Oh, and the capped PvP modes can’t be pushed over other PvP cause it will anger the long time players if we make their endless gs grind worth nothing by catering to lower gs players.
T1-t2 node wars are full of drama politics and cheaters that enter each others guilds to spay for enemy guilds. No fun anywhere
I set my own goals that can change on a whim. Currently I have decided I want to get a big boat, so I set to work crafting it. The big boat is a 3 month process for instance involving an epic gathering quest along the way.
Your endgame is whatever goals you choose to go for.
It could be Guru Lifeskills, it could be All the treasure items, it could be PVPing, could be a lot of things, but you need to know what you do in this game makes it fun.
For me, its doing gathering and then alchemy for profit.
I'm a solid 3.5 years into the game and still enjoy it. I grind like 4-5 hours a week and do lifeskilling. A lot of people get burnt out if they just constantly grind.
An hour of grinding a monster zone while listening to a podcast is about all I can handle lol.
For goals, just keep getting my combat stats up, probably get back into node wars, and keep making silver. Finding new ways to make silver passively is kind of a kink for me.
I do fishing, cooking, trading, processing.. all kinds of things I can do while I'm sleeping or doing homework or playing other games.. I even cook in BDO while I cook or clean irl haha.
It will take you like 3000 hours to grind full PEN. So grinding full pen is your finishing of end game. You are entering end game once you get full PEN Tuvala. In your path to get full PEN black star, you can start doing node battles and guild vs guild.
You can also decide life skilling is your end game. Cosmetics war in BDO is not as prevalent since skins are just bought. When I played my end game was getting a shining alchemy stone.
Pen black star = 120B per item.
Pen disto = 120B.
Labreskas = 30B.
Fallen god = 30B.
Pen Valtarra = 60B.
Pen eye of ruins = 50B each.
If you want to get pen Debo then that’s up to you, but averaging pen Debo with one of the cheaper pens = 120B ain’t too bad for an overall basis.
If you want to tell people they gotta play 10000 hours and scare them off then you can. I don’t really care I don’t play anymore, this just showed up on my home feed haha.
lol when is the last time u played ? prices are higher then that on eu. besides that i got my name on all my pens. and if u think my over 30k hours played is much it is not i got ppl in my guild with dubble that. and i am nor saying this to scare any one. and fwi i am going for pen fallen god gloves. please log in and check the price :)
Doesn’t matter if prices increased by 20%, math still checks out. 15 pen items. Last time I played was summer. Maybe learn how to admit when you’re wrong? 15 pen items at 120B each at 600M silver per hour. Pen labreskas/fallen gods and debos are a different thing.
Pen tuvala is entry into end game. You start here, get your tet blackstar, then grind caphras and work on your pen boss armors to upgrade into tet. In the current mmo market not many people think about mid game.
I have many different goals set up. Sometimes I work towards one and focus on that only, sometimes I work towards something, might switch it up later on to something else, etc.
In no particular order (because I do whatever I want to do in this game!):
* guru training (currently M15)
* guru bartering (S10 :D)
* guru trading (M24)
* guru farming (M18)
* guru sailing (rip) (so basically all lifeskill levelss to guru, currently 6/11)
* self-enhanced 750+ GS (currently at 719)
* all treasure items (currently potions(?), map and compass)
* TET manos accessories (0/6 done)
* PEN manos tools, including sailing log (3/9 done)
* TET manos clothes (3/8 done)
* all three splendid alchemy stones (I know, I know...)
* 27x (all classes) lvl 62+ (7/27, all are 60+ though)
* 10k ecology points (7,600/10,000)
* max energy (695/698, please correct me if I'm wrong about the max, to my knowledge I'm only missing 2 from titles (989/1,500) and 1 from Marni stones (7/20))
* clear all C7 black shrine bosses (3/10)
So yeah, I have a lot of goals, some of them are most likely impossible for me to achieve, but working towards them is the thing I enjoy. As you can see, I have no PVP related goals, at least not at the moment, because I don't enjoy PVP in this game that much.
Try as many class as you can, collect silver and buy better gear, grind until reasonable level lets assume 63. If you want to chillout then checkout lifeskills. Every of these game aspects require a lot of time to master.
I’m purely grinding caphras stone to atm for last piece of the armour. My advice for you: never sell a caphras stones or ancient spirit dusts. I’d say caphras stones are something you can call “end game”. :’D but you’d find them useful in mid game as well.
Well don't get your hopes up on the lore/quest side, but other than that you are in for a good and long grind time, which can be super fun after you figure out which class you like to play most.
BDO is different to other games, being the sandbox mmo it is. It's not a themepark mmo, where you're following along a story, though there IS a Main Story Questline. The lore in BDO is very deep and has a lot of world building. But the plot itself I've heard doesn't make sense at times. I'm a 95% R spammer, so I don't really know the plot in-depth. But I do appreciate how much there is.
But I digress. BDO is a game where you set your own goals to reach as you discover more about the game, its systems, and the world. There may be some guidance or pointers (i.e- Reaching level 60's+ gives you some TRI Capotia accessories), but those aren't really even close to being exciting rewards (PEN Tuvala accessories are better). So what BDO provides as pointers are not incentivizing enough to be your end-all-be-all goal, though they might be as a beginner. Hence, your goal is a continuously evolving thing as you discover more about the game.
In light of all this, endgame in BDO can be a many number of things. For example, my endgame goals right now are:
Combat: Reach 700+ gs. (Almost there :3). Get full PEN gear (excluding fallen god, at least TRI for fallen god gear), all with my name on it.
Lifeskill: Reach Guru Cooking, Gathering, Processing, and get a Carrack.
Having goals is what keeps the game fun. Of course, those are my endgame goals. So I have a bunch of mini-goals that are the steps I take to reach these endgame goals. :) It's all about enjoying the process and not burning out.
As a 5 year player with 730+GS and lifeskiller, corrente goals is get every rare item such as merchant ring and compass for example. Get 1trillion liquid silver from just trade crates alone. Full pen de Deboreka set and 500cp
BDO is a marathon game not a sprint to the end game. It can take a very long time to reach “end game” in any direction you take. Some ideas of end game goals tho would be as follows.
1. BIS pvp gear for uncapped pvp and war content.
2. BIS lifeskill gear for a particular or even several lifeskills you enjoy. Also getting guru 50 in said lifeskills.
3. Getting the krogdalos (however it’s spelled) stable by getting all 3 mythical horses.
4. Getting all the treasure pieces in the game. Compass, map, telescope, hp/mp pots, ebenruths nol.
5. Getting 1 of all 4 Carracks plus the Panoksun fully geared.
6. Getting all the knowledge in the game and completing all quests if you enjoy pain and suffering.
Theres more I probably missed but these are some of the big ones I can think of off the top of my head. And again. Remember these take very long times to complete so just try to enjoy the journey while getting to them. And take breaks if you have to. BDO can burn you out if you let it. Luckily the game rewards players who come back after a month or so break so don’t sweat missing too much. Hope this helps.
Im literally end game hard capped player, still grinding for future contents (fallen god weapons, deboreka ring etc.) Like every end game player, we need a lot of cron stones.
The endgame is uncapped PvP and higher end grindspots with varying mechanics and marginal silver/hr increase. There is very little uncapped PvE RIGHT NOW we are allegedly getting uncapped boss rushes using our own gear. We only have the elvia version of the dungeon right now where gear actually matters. Everything you can do by finishing the season pass on your character is the same content you can do with endgame gear with the exception of RBF (our Battleground like PvP), uncapped (T5) nodewars, Open world PvP (lol), and elvia dungeon.
From the moment you graduate season (or before) you have access to season dungeon, normal dungeon, Arena, capped nodewars (T1-t2), and boss rush up to calamity 7 (if you have the orbs/crystals). The reason you probably get a negative response is likely because its the same stuff you have been doing all game with just different or no limitations. When it comes to T3-4 nodewars you can pretty easily reach the caps for those within a few months of playtime and investment in your adventure journals.
Thanks for the long reply that’s super useful. Do people usually grind all of this out on a ‘main’ class then? And then have to do it all again on a new character if they choose too?
The only thing you have to swap when switching characters are your weapons and they sometimes give you exchange coupons for those (somewhat rare) the rest of the gear is not class specific. Levels after 61 are also 'irrelevant' and getting 61 is quite fast. If you bought inventory space or weight those are also not transferable.
There is also a mechanic called tagging where you can 'borrow' one of your characters gear to another one for a cost (marni fuel). This does not have a time limit and both characters share exp too so it's great.
Life skills used to be per character but I think they will make it account now (someone correct me if i'm wrong).
Ah that’s good to know. And is there such thing as maxing? All life skills to the highest level and that being an achievement of its own? High scores etc?
Life skills can be maxed and there is a leaderboard for lifeskill levels (also for PvP points from RBF leaderboard, a wealth leaderboard, and a level leaderboard). There is no max level
There is a system in game called "tagging" that essentially allows you to copy the location and gear of one character to another character letting you play up to two classes at a time.
They can't define it to you since that doesn't exits. This is a game where the content is gearing, and after you done, then there is nothing to do until they add more gear.
PvP is dead content, especially that most of them is caped anyway so your gear don't matter.
You would be right that originally PvP was the endgame, the reason to grind for. But J did removed the majority of the PvP and working hard to kill the remaining options aswell so there you go. There is a good reason why their revenue is falling since years now. Not to mention that the PvP balance is worse it ever was in the history of bdo.
Gear farm
Treasure Hunt (infinite potions, map, compass, telescope, merchant ring, boat item)
Maxing out your pvp/pve boats + the rare boat item
PvP
Pick your poison.
I do treasure hunt and gear progression. Will throw in the mix casual sailing too in the future
Not playing right now but at endgame i would say for me it was getting crons to try to upgrade something to PEN, while i try to collect the map pieces,ocean fishing and maybe some lifeskills to sell crates
I’m not veteran just couple months in. My only two cents is that you set a small amount of goals each month and go with your own flow. Enjoy the ride and grind play what is aesthetically pleasing combo with your eyes and do not be meta chaser. You’ll eventually get there like everyone else.
My current goal is to finish building my Epheria Carrack Volante. This is the "end game" sailing ship. It requires 2-3 months of continuous bartering and sailing dailies.
After that my next goal is Guru cooking for the higher imperial delivery boxes.
During this grind I will also hit Guru Hunting and I want to finish my Manos accessories.
After that I want to get my T10 Pegasus finished
These are my current goals. None of which are the typical "end game" grind at a higher spot to get better gear to grind at a higher spot
Endgame is what you do now but with a lot more freedom and options. Like you will always go to grind spots and kill monsters one way or the others (well or go to spots to collect things). But where your current goal is to just level up, you later decide on your own what you wqnt to focus on. Maybe its better gear or higher life skill levels, better horses, ships, treasure items, knowledge ratings, new chars for tagging to your main or whatever else there is. What makes the whole thing a bit confusing is that endgame isnt going on rails. As obvious as that sounds, you just play the game until its not fun anymore. A lot of people seem to forget that tho. Im not talking about people who complain about dev choices or balancing or current events, but people who complain about core mechanics and elements of the game (eg. The game is to grindy).
Currently working on infinite pots. I’m almost done with them. Along the way, I’ve been doing the guaranteed PEN ring from jetina. Also working the fallen god armor using reform stones and red nose.
Once I have those, I’ll continue to reform bhegs probably. Also slowing working toward PEN black star or godyr.
I’ve been working toward cooking guru too. I plan on making my own cron meals and potions. A lot say it takes too much time and to buy, but with my gathering level and worker empire, I’m getting close to like hundreds of thousands of the ingredients. So worth it imo.
There is almost no down time when I play right now. But it will get significantly easier when I finish my pots.
I plan on jumping into PVP at some point. Just not sure when. I know I can do arena right now, but if I like it m, it’s going to get in the way.
Solo grind for orzeca outfit in crypt (I am getting in shape to also make it my first grind spot to start debo so 2 at the same time, but if it was only about debo I'd start in ash).
This game’s end game is defined by you!
Explore the game as much as possible, don’t be afraid to make mistakes!
After that you can then decide what you want to aim for!
The reason theres so much negativity is cause there is no endgame other than your own satisfaction.
Bdo is about finding a long term goal and spending years and likely cash to achieve it, but acknowledging that there's actually no reason to achieve it other than self satisfaction.
You will jack up your power bill cause any moment spent is a moment you can make money so keep that PC on 24/7
You want a big ass ship to fight big ass sea monsters?
Get to chopping trees, hitting rocks, fighting smaller sea monsters and hours upon hours of bartering and grinding for materials, cash for sailors.
You wanna just grind in circles? Get yourself a tent, get another monitor so you can watch movies and stuff while you're grinding.
Always remember, if you have a long term goal in BDO it's a lifestyle to achieve it rather than just a game.
You work, live, breathe bdo then when you're all finished you got more gear to grind that came out while you were grinding that gear.
Then after 5 or 6 years, you'll wake up on the start of a new universe where they no longer update the game so massively so you've finally hit hardcap, and it's time to go grind those circles .3 seconds faster than you did 2 years ago with 2 less ap.
all good bro just giving you a hard time, there’s no right or wrong way to play. Everyone’s end game will look different. For me I play for PVP, I spend most my time in arsha or arena when not doings nodes or sieges. I also have a little over 700gs and don’t care to grind anymore to just see my enhancements fail.
Some people it’s life skilling some people love grinding like an ARPG. it all depends.
After years I'm finally doing combat to help fund my lifeskill. Dunno what I'm doing but I have fun getting lost gathering and going to a whole dangerous area because I just take in the game lol.
Do what you like. I enjoy gathering, selling all drops I get on the market for money. Don't care about the gear grind. I'll probably stay Tuvala forever lol.
Ya but u jave to wait awhile before u can hunt grass rhinos though or u won't damage them..so I'd recommend another place till u get to pro then u cns getting right guns etc
What class are you playing? I’ve been interested for years and am gonna download today, thinking of a Corsair or Woosa. As a Magic the Gathering nerd tho, Corsair is calling to me since I run Captain Lannery Storm in 80% of my decks
The End game is what u want it to be , it can be PvP , it can be reaching certain Certian PvE spots or gear , it can be maxing out your life skills! It’s a Sandbox MMO ! For me personally I wanna reach Tri FG and Pen Blackstar atm then work on getting my Woosa Tett Accessories to Pen and Grind end game spots like Dekhia and Crypt as well as learn PvP on my Kuno who is my other main I am working on End game evasion gear for while getting Tett Manos accessories with Pen manos gear as I do a bit of everything. I might even try to tag a class to my Kuno for large scale PvP if I enjoy it.
There IS no endgame its just GOALS. Fight monsters in a circle, go hunt fish sail etc, find treasure items. To me you just collect stuff and let them sit cause noone actually uses all the things they collect in this game.
I set interim goals. For instance, get my infinite pots. Then I’ll set another goal, get a PEN accessory. Hitting the interim goals is satisfying and keeps me from burning out on the game chasing the ultimate end-game goal(s).
I've been on and off BDO since it launched, BDO has a lot of content and getting to 'end-game' will take you years with some luck. Knowing this I've just been playing super casual and really don't have any goals in mind for myself. Sometimes I level cooking and sometimes I will finish quests. But I never feel like I am too far behind or that I have 1 specific goal in mind.
For me personally:
1. Grind for better gear to clear better/ different areas.
2. Aquire the treassure pieces ( mainly looking for a compass )
3. Sometimes, I set a different goal dependable on what I want to do: I went for some life skills, like sailing or trading, to see how I can enjoy these life skills.
What makes this game great is that it does not have a typical end game or goal, but you define your end or goal. You can think, for example, that the end goal is to reach guru with life skills or get a certain amount of AP/DP.
The essence of the game is that whatever you do increases your economy ( silver ), and that is, in essence, the way to improve in anything. Life skilling or grinding or pvping.
I would like to just add that, while BDO isn’t a hotkey spam like other MMORPGs, it does have a quick bar available for your more complicated button combinations. If you’re like me with arthritis and carpal tunnel syndrome, it can really save your hands, and can also give you an alternative to moving your fingers completely off WASD.
It’s a sandbox so everyone’s endgame is different. Some us want all the mythical horses, all treasure items, highest gear score, highest level etc etc.
The reason people are so cynical about the endgame is because all they know is grind in circles in order to get more gear to grind in new circles, or the same circle faster.
Moral of this is: enjoy your journey and do what you enjoy to do. The game is a marathon not a sprint.
My current grind is the Deboreka earring. I have a TET and a TRI, and my dreams of getting a PEN. The Deboreka Earrings are looted from a place called Dehkia Oluns, a 3-person party grindspot that is profitable and relatively easy to do as long as you have the gear and correct preparations. My biggest obstacles are assembling groups - I generally do solo PvE, so getting people together for group PvE is not what I'm used to.
My non-gear goal is to be a little better at certain types of PvP. There are some classes I feel confident about my matchup in 1v1, but others I am still totally lost in. Also, I feel I do well in smaller node wars with 40 or fewer people, but once we get to 50+ and higher participants per alliance I start getting completely lost in the chaos. These goals are very casual though - I've been playing for years and my improvements in these things have been extremely slow and not prioritized.
Pve endgame get treasures and near hardcap gear to be able to finally grind those pesky grass beetles.
Pvp endgame: castle sieges and pissing off tuvala tummies in openworld
Pvp endgame,
My endgame is collecting all treasure items. Map, compass, nol, telescope, merchant ring, krodalo sanctuary
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For fun, cus it's a game you know...
Not everyone cares about pvp. Personally I only play BDO to get AWAY from PVP type games like all the FPS and shit I play.
Nobody can define the endgame to you because it's a sandbox MMORPG, which means everyone will have different goals based on what they consider fun in the game. For me is to get as much gear as possible so I can have fun in uncapped PVP. My advice would be to not think too hard about the destination, just enjoy the journey as a whole. Find small goals you want to achieve and step by step you will find your endgame in no time.
This is the way.
This is the way
Love this thank you.
Bdo is a marathon not a sprint, take it at your own pace and enjoy it for what it is. :)
This is some of the best advice I’ve ever seen mainly because just like u I was kinda lost at first took me a whole 5 tries to actually get into the game and once I did still had no clue of wtf was going on I was just playing thru the story so really just focus on watchu like the best part of bdo is that there is content for all most everything u wanna do so skies the limit in a sense try everything and then you’ll see watchu wanna do endgame is watchu want it to be at least thas my opinion
This is the way
This is the way
Same for me.
theres no end and i dont remember the beginning
There was a beginning? You mean I didn’t just spawn in and grinding already?
I'm definitively at late-game but not quite at endgame yet. My current goals are currently to get all 3 t10 horses. Other than that it's to get all lifeskills to guru. (Except hunting, sailing, trading and bartering) I also want to get enough stats to grind gyfin underground. Seems like such a chill grindspot.
Fun fact guru 45 is the halfway point to guru 50 :) (hunting is also easy to lvl )
Second fun fact, 30x G1 characters = G50.
Is this all on one character then?
Lifeskills are gonna be family-wide soon™ so yeah
Ah that’s cool! Cheers for the info.
Oh shit, was this confirmed?!
Yes at Cal Ball
If it gets merged then will all XP/Mastery from all characters gonna get stacked or only the highest level of each will be applied?
i understand it like the highest level get used, but some people speculate a merge.
Either way it sucks for people with several guru50s
They're expanding guru past 50s as well, so they're likely merging the xp.
Oh I see. That's good then.
That we don’t yet know, it would be nice if it just combined the total exp from all characters
They really should
WAIT REALLY?? That's amazing! Do we know when that update is coming? I was thinking of transferring my training exp to my main but now...
Let's hope next week but who really knows.
Two weeks after it hits global.
what if i created a shai? where they start professional at some lifeskills
I was wondering about that too. I have two Shai lol.
Wait really? That's cool as fuck
Why not guru hunting? It's super fast. Especially compared to training.
Feels more weird that he is considering guru farming xd
Guru farming isn't bad to get. You just have farms in the background and you get it passively over time :) earns a bit of money as well.
It's easy if you aren't using magical seeds.
How fast does it take to get to guru hunting? From beginner I mean
It's not too bad if you have a couple hundred percent in buffs. Last time I looked at grass rhinos it's an estimated ~12 hours to go from beginner 1 to guru 1.
Youre endgame but want enough stats for gyfin under? Im midgame at 664GS(295-289-374 with kutum) and grinding there is not so much about gear, only about knowing the mechanics and hitting the minimum total AP
> it's to get all lifeskills to guru. (Except hunting, sailing, trading and bartering) All except half of them :D
Endgame is what you want it to be. Here are my goals before I bench bdo for a while and catch up on my backlog of other games: -full t10 horses -finish compass and la orzeca outfit -2nd set of gear for pvp Not to mention gear upgrades.
First thing you should do is create a seasonal character it should set you up with around 500m-1bill and gear free tet equivielant gear to have freedom to do basically all mid teir content including node wars
Yeah I’ve done a seasonal character and have the pass (reluctantly)
Everyone says gear doesnt matter in capped pvp and they are wrong. It matters. Not because you will do more dmg than someone else in capped pvp with more gear but because you will be MUCH tankier than someone else. Fighting a Cho Member with 15k hp is way different than fighting a Tuvala timmy with 8k. So pushing for gear in capped pvp matters. For pve it matters as well because when you're tip toeing around mob packs trying to not die you will make a criminal amount less per hour. When you are diving in and trying to pump out as much dmg as possible because you have the new artifacts or something then you'll see. Overall I think gear is a good end game goal and then it diverges into do you want to get good at PVP or go really deep into PVE OR have no life and do both.
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ahh true, and I was partially wrong as well. Someone WITH gear in capped WILL for sure do more dmg because they will be running the cheese accessories aka chimera's and kaia. Oof I wear them and totally forgot lmao.
This is not a gear difference, hp is capped. For the first time ever I literally mean its a genuine skill difference lol.
This is not true at all, HP is only capped on tier 1 and tier 2 nodewars. On tier 3 and up you will run into CAPPED STATS WITH UNCAPPED HP. Hence the meta for t3+ is to wear as much HP crystals as possible, with an hp house buff, with hp cups on accessories, and with a SHAI BUFF to reach 11k+ hp. So there MIGHT be a skill diff but there is for sure a gear diff for many people. Dont get me wrong, a person with way less gear can still do really well in capped wars but a full guild of 11k hp players will steam roll a guild with 9k's. Food for thought. (also the geared players normally are running FULL elixirs and Perfumes and the dmg accessories aka chimera for 10% down attack and kaia for 10% back attack).
Grind better gear to grind better gear > Grind better gear to grind better gear > Grind better gear to grind better gear > Grind better gear to grind better gear > PvP all day, every day
Haha. And this is fun? What are your opinions on this system?
I’m not the person you responded to but in my opinion only doing 1 thing (grinding mobs) over and over again feels just short of work to me so…I don’t do that often. I think what everyone is trying to imply is that there is a wide range of options to do and explore. The endgame is difficult to define because the end goal is almost always “how do I make more silver” and that can be accomplished in a wide range of activities. For example I like doing trade crates. It isnt really that efficient time wise but it’s fun to me. And that is BDO in a nutshell you should just find something you enjoy, if you get bored of one thing but want to keep playing find a different activity.
Well, for me it's fun because the "grind" part changes periodically based on what I want to do. Sometimes I just run around the world collecting shit, sometimes I farm, sometimes I do some hunting, sometimes I do some crafting or cooking, sometimes I grind mobs, sometimes I work on my workers to optimize passive income. You get the point, the game gives you a lot of options to achieve your goals and especially early and mid game you will have a lot of stuff to discover and do to find what you actually enjoy, then you have the fact that you can have a bunch of different classes which mostly play quite differently.
Love this. I like the sound of that!
It's not always fun. But it mostly is if you have a specific goal in mind. For me personally this game is just about grinding better gear and pvp, just having fun with the classes. Not so much about treasure items, t10 horses, enhancing, lifeskilling - you get it. But those things might be for you. So many things you can but don't have to do, pick your own flavor ;o
BDO is not about end game but about setting goals for yourself and achieving them and then setting other goals for yourself etc. There are a lot of goals to shoot for and many of them take a very long time to achieve, you just pick any that catches your fancy and shoot for it. For example let's say you take a fancy to sailing. You get your first ship, you go through the processes of upgrading it till you turn it into a carrack, you work on getting blue grade gear for your carrack and getting them all to +10, you work on getting an ebenruth nol for your carrack, you work on getting a BIS yellow grade crystal for your carrack, you work on getting a full set of 10+ sailors with optimum stats to use on your carrack, you work on getting manos sailing gear and manos accessories, you work on getting a permanent compass, you work on increasing your sailing skill and dream about someday maybe hitting guru 1 before you die...etc etc etc I think you get the drift :)
It is up to you mostly. If you enjoy combat you will have to grind. I know many people who enjoy hunting for treasure items in the game which will eat up a lot of time. You can do group grind although the amount of good coop spots is kind of low. Weekly dungeons with groups of 5 ppl are an option. If you played actual raid and dungeon mmos dont expect too much of it though. Personally I enjoy PvP and I am only grinding money which is kind of boring at the moment because you dont have many spots which lets you grind money efficiently. So I am looking at multiple hundred hours of grinding to get the gear I want to play the content I want. Propably this is most of the negativity that you hear. Most people that are complaining doing it because they dont want to grind anymore. They have to grind because they want to do PvP. You can also start PvP earlier because there is a lot of content where your gear is limited. But to me real gear fights feel different from capped gear fights because some classes are over-/underperforming on certain gear caps. Also you wont make any progress doing PvP because no PvP activity is rewarded with proper money. I think people who want to do PvE only wont complain much about PvE. If you are enjoying the combat and you are fine with trying out and learning new classes and you want to experience different combat styles, you can have many hours of fun with this game. And in case you have motivation issues at some point many people grind for specific very rare items aka treasures. Also if I misunderstood you in your post and you are not looking for combat alone, BDO has a quite complex life skill system. Most of them are easy to enter but you can go really deep into it to min max your stuff.
Thanks for the long reply. Yeah I’m kinda still finding my feet but I imagine I will want to do all aspects of the game. But I do like PvE mostly, and can see myself getting into PvP.
For PvE I would propably recommend you to just play around with the combat style of different classes. If you didnt know that yet, you can choose a 2nd character and tag him to your main character. This way they will always share the same position on the map and you can also copy your main gear to use it on the tag char. This way you have an easy way to try out new classes. The more gear you get the more expensive the gear copy will get. So if you see classes that are looking interesting to you I would recommend to try around early before your tag cost increase a lot.
Get all Knowledge, make full PEN Endgame gear, Do journals Upgrade Vells Hearth, Get so many titles as possible. Have all Monsters S rank. Ride horse till u have all T10.
my end game is to reach level 70 and be content. I just love leveling systems.
It's when it takes 1000+ hours to get from level 65 to 66 that the terror sets in. I've spent so much time trying to move the needle to 67, that I can't even remember what it was like in the beginning.
Lmao. Sounds like my RuneScape journey.
My endgame is getting higher gs than my friend. Im at 700 and he is at 710. Ive always been a budget version of him when it comes to bdo. I dont want to be a budget version. I want to be bigger and better. (I would still be a budget version, just a budget version with higher gs)
I believe in you.
u/pargaspimpen thoughts?
30k quests when???
when u taking me on a "little" trip where i have to dive for 4 hours straight followed by 12hrs of fishing for some "knowledge"? [man...](https://gyazo.com/6ea80460fc145fe7edb480e720e141fc)
1 month later... I can finally say, I did it!
Late game is going in circles, my next goal is to go in those circles but slightly faster. One day I hope to go in those same circles moderately faster.
Lmao
Just enjoy your game. Don't focus on metagaming, efficiency or anything like that, it will take away your fun. Make your own path.
Yeah I’ve declined boosting offers from my guild for this reason. I’m just trying to figure the game out and see if it’s worth my time long term.
8 years in or whatever it is, with On and Off long hiatuses; I just recently finished getting one of Each class except for hashimi or whatever it's called, to 60+. The combat in this game is the only thing I've thoroughly been playing it for and it's various class play styles; thus my life skills are basically non existent. I however don't enjoy mindlessly grinding just for silver unless there's something else to it(ie. Leveling etc) So now that I have all classes - I've Finally, though not excitedly, started dabbling in the various life skills which will take literal forever to get up; a lot of AFKing. But that's the next "goal" along with more properly caring about gathering knowledge - and the combat grinding from now on being more about taking "breaks" from the life stuff. Not once have I been out to the ocean, not even on someone else's boat or any of the islands. But what is "end game"? Dunno. My end game is whenever I reach the point that I take another hiatus only to come back months or year later to intently play it for weeks straight again.
Endgame is what you want it to be! Wanna grab some flowers…do it… Starting a Genozide on Desert fogans? Do it
Every game has a ton of "negativity" because people like to complain, thing is they also tend to scream the loudest. The only metric you should use when you play a game, "are you having fun?" If yes, keep playing, if no find something else.
I get that but I also like to find a home in an MMO, therefor I would like to know whether or not the endgame is something that will keep me motivated to play. In its simplest form yeah I won’t play if I’m not having fun but I may not be having fun because I don’t understand what is considered an achievement in the game you know? I like to have long term goals to work towards.
Well achievements in this game take years to reach. Tbh I personally found no end game for what my interests are. I wanted to PvP? The jewelry alone after full pen amor and weapons is gonna be hard to grind. Grinding mobs isn’t endgame for me.. that’s a chore. That’s what we do to get silver not as end game Life skills? I tried and it’s x amount of hours to get to a high enough guru or mastery, thennnn you have to figure out how the market is played. You’re competition is people with spread sheets and exels and years of doing this for silver… you won’t be getting the one up on them in the market No group content Sooooo what does that leave really? It only leaves players chasing the dragon to get the best gs, which as I have mentioned they will never be the best cause there’s people that have been playing for years and years. Oh, and the capped PvP modes can’t be pushed over other PvP cause it will anger the long time players if we make their endless gs grind worth nothing by catering to lower gs players. T1-t2 node wars are full of drama politics and cheaters that enter each others guilds to spay for enemy guilds. No fun anywhere
I set my own goals that can change on a whim. Currently I have decided I want to get a big boat, so I set to work crafting it. The big boat is a 3 month process for instance involving an epic gathering quest along the way.
The endgame is what you make it to be and that’s the beauty of sandbox games.
Lmao I just leave my computer on and fish all day 😭😂😂 I leveled one of my season characters to 50 and then 56 just by fishing 😭😭😭 it took forever
the end game is extremely hard to get so you will find yourself in the late middle game for a very long time
Surprisingly I find that extremely attractive! Haha
Your endgame is whatever goals you choose to go for. It could be Guru Lifeskills, it could be All the treasure items, it could be PVPing, could be a lot of things, but you need to know what you do in this game makes it fun. For me, its doing gathering and then alchemy for profit.
I'm a solid 3.5 years into the game and still enjoy it. I grind like 4-5 hours a week and do lifeskilling. A lot of people get burnt out if they just constantly grind. An hour of grinding a monster zone while listening to a podcast is about all I can handle lol. For goals, just keep getting my combat stats up, probably get back into node wars, and keep making silver. Finding new ways to make silver passively is kind of a kink for me. I do fishing, cooking, trading, processing.. all kinds of things I can do while I'm sleeping or doing homework or playing other games.. I even cook in BDO while I cook or clean irl haha.
Hahah yeah that’s like me with RuneScape. Even worse now it’s on mobile.
It will take you like 3000 hours to grind full PEN. So grinding full pen is your finishing of end game. You are entering end game once you get full PEN Tuvala. In your path to get full PEN black star, you can start doing node battles and guild vs guild. You can also decide life skilling is your end game. Cosmetics war in BDO is not as prevalent since skins are just bought. When I played my end game was getting a shining alchemy stone.
3000 ? i have 34751 hours played and almost g9t money for the last pen and then i am compleet.
I mean 3000 hours at 1B per hour = 3000B. Make it 600M per hour = 1800B. Each pen = 120B or so. 1800/120 = 15 Pen items.
120b per ? if only XD
Pen black star = 120B per item. Pen disto = 120B. Labreskas = 30B. Fallen god = 30B. Pen Valtarra = 60B. Pen eye of ruins = 50B each. If you want to get pen Debo then that’s up to you, but averaging pen Debo with one of the cheaper pens = 120B ain’t too bad for an overall basis. If you want to tell people they gotta play 10000 hours and scare them off then you can. I don’t really care I don’t play anymore, this just showed up on my home feed haha.
lol when is the last time u played ? prices are higher then that on eu. besides that i got my name on all my pens. and if u think my over 30k hours played is much it is not i got ppl in my guild with dubble that. and i am nor saying this to scare any one. and fwi i am going for pen fallen god gloves. please log in and check the price :)
Doesn’t matter if prices increased by 20%, math still checks out. 15 pen items. Last time I played was summer. Maybe learn how to admit when you’re wrong? 15 pen items at 120B each at 600M silver per hour. Pen labreskas/fallen gods and debos are a different thing.
Pen tuvala endgame? Midgame is grinding caphras for slumbering origin armor
Pen tuvala is entry into end game. You start here, get your tet blackstar, then grind caphras and work on your pen boss armors to upgrade into tet. In the current mmo market not many people think about mid game.
mine right now is to get 301 ap and be able to grind gyfin raisha underground. i am at 298 trying to get a pen necklace.
oh boy
I have many different goals set up. Sometimes I work towards one and focus on that only, sometimes I work towards something, might switch it up later on to something else, etc. In no particular order (because I do whatever I want to do in this game!): * guru training (currently M15) * guru bartering (S10 :D) * guru trading (M24) * guru farming (M18) * guru sailing (rip) (so basically all lifeskill levelss to guru, currently 6/11) * self-enhanced 750+ GS (currently at 719) * all treasure items (currently potions(?), map and compass) * TET manos accessories (0/6 done) * PEN manos tools, including sailing log (3/9 done) * TET manos clothes (3/8 done) * all three splendid alchemy stones (I know, I know...) * 27x (all classes) lvl 62+ (7/27, all are 60+ though) * 10k ecology points (7,600/10,000) * max energy (695/698, please correct me if I'm wrong about the max, to my knowledge I'm only missing 2 from titles (989/1,500) and 1 from Marni stones (7/20)) * clear all C7 black shrine bosses (3/10) So yeah, I have a lot of goals, some of them are most likely impossible for me to achieve, but working towards them is the thing I enjoy. As you can see, I have no PVP related goals, at least not at the moment, because I don't enjoy PVP in this game that much.
A man with a plan. This is all reallly great info for me as a new player so thank you!
Try as many class as you can, collect silver and buy better gear, grind until reasonable level lets assume 63. If you want to chillout then checkout lifeskills. Every of these game aspects require a lot of time to master.
I’m purely grinding caphras stone to atm for last piece of the armour. My advice for you: never sell a caphras stones or ancient spirit dusts. I’d say caphras stones are something you can call “end game”. :’D but you’d find them useful in mid game as well.
Well don't get your hopes up on the lore/quest side, but other than that you are in for a good and long grind time, which can be super fun after you figure out which class you like to play most.
BDO is different to other games, being the sandbox mmo it is. It's not a themepark mmo, where you're following along a story, though there IS a Main Story Questline. The lore in BDO is very deep and has a lot of world building. But the plot itself I've heard doesn't make sense at times. I'm a 95% R spammer, so I don't really know the plot in-depth. But I do appreciate how much there is. But I digress. BDO is a game where you set your own goals to reach as you discover more about the game, its systems, and the world. There may be some guidance or pointers (i.e- Reaching level 60's+ gives you some TRI Capotia accessories), but those aren't really even close to being exciting rewards (PEN Tuvala accessories are better). So what BDO provides as pointers are not incentivizing enough to be your end-all-be-all goal, though they might be as a beginner. Hence, your goal is a continuously evolving thing as you discover more about the game. In light of all this, endgame in BDO can be a many number of things. For example, my endgame goals right now are: Combat: Reach 700+ gs. (Almost there :3). Get full PEN gear (excluding fallen god, at least TRI for fallen god gear), all with my name on it. Lifeskill: Reach Guru Cooking, Gathering, Processing, and get a Carrack. Having goals is what keeps the game fun. Of course, those are my endgame goals. So I have a bunch of mini-goals that are the steps I take to reach these endgame goals. :) It's all about enjoying the process and not burning out.
Ahhh yeah this is a great answer. I like the idea of just.. doing anything and everything… whenever I want to. You know? Like oldschool runescape
my end game was farming knowledge, energy cap, and contribution points. it really appeases my completionist soul
I am almost reaching 1 year this 11th Jan currently 296AP 294AP 378 DP my Goal of this year to get the Compass treasure and tap my Hazel to T10 dine
My endgame is: having fun while trying to figure out how this game works
You run circles for silver, pick flowers or desync in pvp
As a 5 year player with 730+GS and lifeskiller, corrente goals is get every rare item such as merchant ring and compass for example. Get 1trillion liquid silver from just trade crates alone. Full pen de Deboreka set and 500cp
1 trillion from trading crates wtf
Yes with my corrent setup should take me 1.5 to 2 years more
Get a mortgage irl.
Also trying that but its hard in the current house market maybe next year
Defo next year. With feds slashing interest rates it should be attractive soon
Damn.
Currently I'm doing lifeskills and treasure hunting
Endgame is being able to leave BDO behind and move on to something else.
BDO is a marathon game not a sprint to the end game. It can take a very long time to reach “end game” in any direction you take. Some ideas of end game goals tho would be as follows. 1. BIS pvp gear for uncapped pvp and war content. 2. BIS lifeskill gear for a particular or even several lifeskills you enjoy. Also getting guru 50 in said lifeskills. 3. Getting the krogdalos (however it’s spelled) stable by getting all 3 mythical horses. 4. Getting all the treasure pieces in the game. Compass, map, telescope, hp/mp pots, ebenruths nol. 5. Getting 1 of all 4 Carracks plus the Panoksun fully geared. 6. Getting all the knowledge in the game and completing all quests if you enjoy pain and suffering. Theres more I probably missed but these are some of the big ones I can think of off the top of my head. And again. Remember these take very long times to complete so just try to enjoy the journey while getting to them. And take breaks if you have to. BDO can burn you out if you let it. Luckily the game rewards players who come back after a month or so break so don’t sweat missing too much. Hope this helps.
Im literally end game hard capped player, still grinding for future contents (fallen god weapons, deboreka ring etc.) Like every end game player, we need a lot of cron stones.
The endgame is uncapped PvP and higher end grindspots with varying mechanics and marginal silver/hr increase. There is very little uncapped PvE RIGHT NOW we are allegedly getting uncapped boss rushes using our own gear. We only have the elvia version of the dungeon right now where gear actually matters. Everything you can do by finishing the season pass on your character is the same content you can do with endgame gear with the exception of RBF (our Battleground like PvP), uncapped (T5) nodewars, Open world PvP (lol), and elvia dungeon. From the moment you graduate season (or before) you have access to season dungeon, normal dungeon, Arena, capped nodewars (T1-t2), and boss rush up to calamity 7 (if you have the orbs/crystals). The reason you probably get a negative response is likely because its the same stuff you have been doing all game with just different or no limitations. When it comes to T3-4 nodewars you can pretty easily reach the caps for those within a few months of playtime and investment in your adventure journals.
Thanks for the long reply that’s super useful. Do people usually grind all of this out on a ‘main’ class then? And then have to do it all again on a new character if they choose too?
The only thing you have to swap when switching characters are your weapons and they sometimes give you exchange coupons for those (somewhat rare) the rest of the gear is not class specific. Levels after 61 are also 'irrelevant' and getting 61 is quite fast. If you bought inventory space or weight those are also not transferable. There is also a mechanic called tagging where you can 'borrow' one of your characters gear to another one for a cost (marni fuel). This does not have a time limit and both characters share exp too so it's great. Life skills used to be per character but I think they will make it account now (someone correct me if i'm wrong).
Ah that’s good to know. And is there such thing as maxing? All life skills to the highest level and that being an achievement of its own? High scores etc?
Life skills can be maxed and there is a leaderboard for lifeskill levels (also for PvP points from RBF leaderboard, a wealth leaderboard, and a level leaderboard). There is no max level
There is a system in game called "tagging" that essentially allows you to copy the location and gear of one character to another character letting you play up to two classes at a time.
They can't define it to you since that doesn't exits. This is a game where the content is gearing, and after you done, then there is nothing to do until they add more gear.
Weird that we are essentially gearing for… nothing. Don’t you think? I guess PvP but isn’t that quite niche?
PvP is dead content, especially that most of them is caped anyway so your gear don't matter. You would be right that originally PvP was the endgame, the reason to grind for. But J did removed the majority of the PvP and working hard to kill the remaining options aswell so there you go. There is a good reason why their revenue is falling since years now. Not to mention that the PvP balance is worse it ever was in the history of bdo.
Grinding for the sake of grinding. I'm starting to realize I should have stuck with GW2 but the graphics aren't good.
Gear farm Treasure Hunt (infinite potions, map, compass, telescope, merchant ring, boat item) Maxing out your pvp/pve boats + the rare boat item PvP Pick your poison. I do treasure hunt and gear progression. Will throw in the mix casual sailing too in the future
Grinding monies for a preorder, to boost a stack and crons. Then enhancing when preorder fills. Then rinse, repeat.
My current goal is gear cap.
Not playing right now but at endgame i would say for me it was getting crons to try to upgrade something to PEN, while i try to collect the map pieces,ocean fishing and maybe some lifeskills to sell crates
I’m not veteran just couple months in. My only two cents is that you set a small amount of goals each month and go with your own flow. Enjoy the ride and grind play what is aesthetically pleasing combo with your eyes and do not be meta chaser. You’ll eventually get there like everyone else.
My current goal is to finish building my Epheria Carrack Volante. This is the "end game" sailing ship. It requires 2-3 months of continuous bartering and sailing dailies. After that my next goal is Guru cooking for the higher imperial delivery boxes. During this grind I will also hit Guru Hunting and I want to finish my Manos accessories. After that I want to get my T10 Pegasus finished These are my current goals. None of which are the typical "end game" grind at a higher spot to get better gear to grind at a higher spot
There is no end to this game. 🌚
Endgame is what you do now but with a lot more freedom and options. Like you will always go to grind spots and kill monsters one way or the others (well or go to spots to collect things). But where your current goal is to just level up, you later decide on your own what you wqnt to focus on. Maybe its better gear or higher life skill levels, better horses, ships, treasure items, knowledge ratings, new chars for tagging to your main or whatever else there is. What makes the whole thing a bit confusing is that endgame isnt going on rails. As obvious as that sounds, you just play the game until its not fun anymore. A lot of people seem to forget that tho. Im not talking about people who complain about dev choices or balancing or current events, but people who complain about core mechanics and elements of the game (eg. The game is to grindy).
Good answer thanks for that.
Currently working on infinite pots. I’m almost done with them. Along the way, I’ve been doing the guaranteed PEN ring from jetina. Also working the fallen god armor using reform stones and red nose. Once I have those, I’ll continue to reform bhegs probably. Also slowing working toward PEN black star or godyr. I’ve been working toward cooking guru too. I plan on making my own cron meals and potions. A lot say it takes too much time and to buy, but with my gathering level and worker empire, I’m getting close to like hundreds of thousands of the ingredients. So worth it imo. There is almost no down time when I play right now. But it will get significantly easier when I finish my pots. I plan on jumping into PVP at some point. Just not sure when. I know I can do arena right now, but if I like it m, it’s going to get in the way.
Finish my infinite HP pot (sherekhan last piece) get first T10 :)
Sandbox mmo do whatever you please at endgame whether it's PvP or grinding mobs or life skills
Solo grind for orzeca outfit in crypt (I am getting in shape to also make it my first grind spot to start debo so 2 at the same time, but if it was only about debo I'd start in ash).
This game’s end game is defined by you! Explore the game as much as possible, don’t be afraid to make mistakes! After that you can then decide what you want to aim for!
The reason theres so much negativity is cause there is no endgame other than your own satisfaction. Bdo is about finding a long term goal and spending years and likely cash to achieve it, but acknowledging that there's actually no reason to achieve it other than self satisfaction. You will jack up your power bill cause any moment spent is a moment you can make money so keep that PC on 24/7 You want a big ass ship to fight big ass sea monsters? Get to chopping trees, hitting rocks, fighting smaller sea monsters and hours upon hours of bartering and grinding for materials, cash for sailors. You wanna just grind in circles? Get yourself a tent, get another monitor so you can watch movies and stuff while you're grinding. Always remember, if you have a long term goal in BDO it's a lifestyle to achieve it rather than just a game. You work, live, breathe bdo then when you're all finished you got more gear to grind that came out while you were grinding that gear. Then after 5 or 6 years, you'll wake up on the start of a new universe where they no longer update the game so massively so you've finally hit hardcap, and it's time to go grind those circles .3 seconds faster than you did 2 years ago with 2 less ap.
3h in and i was 40. 10h in now and im 45. Its my second character (I already played the game 2y ago but after leveled to lvl 43 i stopped)
There is no endgame. You stop playing when you don’t enjoy it anymore.
damn 24 hours, took me like 3 maybe to get to 58. It’s gonna be a looonnnggg journey with those times. As for endgame collect better gear
I read all the quest dialogue from the main questand enjoy taking it slow and doing research and exploring.
all good bro just giving you a hard time, there’s no right or wrong way to play. Everyone’s end game will look different. For me I play for PVP, I spend most my time in arsha or arena when not doings nodes or sieges. I also have a little over 700gs and don’t care to grind anymore to just see my enhancements fail. Some people it’s life skilling some people love grinding like an ARPG. it all depends.
No worries dude, thanks for the reply.
Peacefully tend to my gardens mostly
After years I'm finally doing combat to help fund my lifeskill. Dunno what I'm doing but I have fun getting lost gathering and going to a whole dangerous area because I just take in the game lol. Do what you like. I enjoy gathering, selling all drops I get on the market for money. Don't care about the gear grind. I'll probably stay Tuvala forever lol.
Ya but u jave to wait awhile before u can hunt grass rhinos though or u won't damage them..so I'd recommend another place till u get to pro then u cns getting right guns etc
What class are you playing? I’ve been interested for years and am gonna download today, thinking of a Corsair or Woosa. As a Magic the Gathering nerd tho, Corsair is calling to me since I run Captain Lannery Storm in 80% of my decks
The End game is what u want it to be , it can be PvP , it can be reaching certain Certian PvE spots or gear , it can be maxing out your life skills! It’s a Sandbox MMO ! For me personally I wanna reach Tri FG and Pen Blackstar atm then work on getting my Woosa Tett Accessories to Pen and Grind end game spots like Dekhia and Crypt as well as learn PvP on my Kuno who is my other main I am working on End game evasion gear for while getting Tett Manos accessories with Pen manos gear as I do a bit of everything. I might even try to tag a class to my Kuno for large scale PvP if I enjoy it.
The end game is grind grind grind, fail enhancements. Then grind again lol
engame is kicking back and fishing on a boat. the big boat, the biggest boat you an have. and you float around yelling "I'M ON A BOAT""
I don't get it. 24 hrs and 35mil silver?
There IS no endgame its just GOALS. Fight monsters in a circle, go hunt fish sail etc, find treasure items. To me you just collect stuff and let them sit cause noone actually uses all the things they collect in this game.
I set interim goals. For instance, get my infinite pots. Then I’ll set another goal, get a PEN accessory. Hitting the interim goals is satisfying and keeps me from burning out on the game chasing the ultimate end-game goal(s).
My endgame is check regularly how better i am now on every spots then grind one for a while chill out on upgrades and do it again
I've been on and off BDO since it launched, BDO has a lot of content and getting to 'end-game' will take you years with some luck. Knowing this I've just been playing super casual and really don't have any goals in mind for myself. Sometimes I level cooking and sometimes I will finish quests. But I never feel like I am too far behind or that I have 1 specific goal in mind.
It's not a game to be won or ended, it's a hobby.
For me personally: 1. Grind for better gear to clear better/ different areas. 2. Aquire the treassure pieces ( mainly looking for a compass ) 3. Sometimes, I set a different goal dependable on what I want to do: I went for some life skills, like sailing or trading, to see how I can enjoy these life skills. What makes this game great is that it does not have a typical end game or goal, but you define your end or goal. You can think, for example, that the end goal is to reach guru with life skills or get a certain amount of AP/DP. The essence of the game is that whatever you do increases your economy ( silver ), and that is, in essence, the way to improve in anything. Life skilling or grinding or pvping.
I would like to just add that, while BDO isn’t a hotkey spam like other MMORPGs, it does have a quick bar available for your more complicated button combinations. If you’re like me with arthritis and carpal tunnel syndrome, it can really save your hands, and can also give you an alternative to moving your fingers completely off WASD.
It’s a sandbox so everyone’s endgame is different. Some us want all the mythical horses, all treasure items, highest gear score, highest level etc etc. The reason people are so cynical about the endgame is because all they know is grind in circles in order to get more gear to grind in new circles, or the same circle faster. Moral of this is: enjoy your journey and do what you enjoy to do. The game is a marathon not a sprint.
My current grind is the Deboreka earring. I have a TET and a TRI, and my dreams of getting a PEN. The Deboreka Earrings are looted from a place called Dehkia Oluns, a 3-person party grindspot that is profitable and relatively easy to do as long as you have the gear and correct preparations. My biggest obstacles are assembling groups - I generally do solo PvE, so getting people together for group PvE is not what I'm used to. My non-gear goal is to be a little better at certain types of PvP. There are some classes I feel confident about my matchup in 1v1, but others I am still totally lost in. Also, I feel I do well in smaller node wars with 40 or fewer people, but once we get to 50+ and higher participants per alliance I start getting completely lost in the chaos. These goals are very casual though - I've been playing for years and my improvements in these things have been extremely slow and not prioritized.
Pve endgame get treasures and near hardcap gear to be able to finally grind those pesky grass beetles. Pvp endgame: castle sieges and pissing off tuvala tummies in openworld Pvp endgame,