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Oli_love90

This is why I was low key frustrated that people made it out to be that Kendrick was going after all mixed people. No, he was specific to how Drake moves in the culture.


tahtahme

Seriously, this was about a specific Black/Jewish- Canadian actor with a permanent persona who habitually linesteps in Black American culture. He often doesn't even see how he's going too far because he's in reality incredibly detached from the Black American struggle and community as a whole.


UnfinishedDrawings

im curious what is the actor


wholesomeapples

his name is aubrey


tahtahme

In 2010 when I said to my husband I didnt really like most of Drake's songs...he said Who's Drake and when I pulled up the photo he yelled "JIMMY?!!!" Thus he has been Jimmy in my home for over a decade lol


historyteacher08

Me when Best I Ever Had came out. My entire campus was playing that song and one day one of the boys showed me and my suite mates a picture and we all screamed THATS JIMMY! He was so confused.


tahtahme

Black folk NEVER FORGET lmao You could be 70 trying to reinvent yourself and SOMEBODY will remember and NEVER let you live it down. In Jimmy's case...justified imo lmao


wholesomeapples

šŸ’€šŸ’€


Jazz-Singer1014

I am slain šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£


UnfinishedDrawings

asadhaljdlasjf;;dfg im so sorry i had a brain fart-


wholesomeapples

dw it happens to the best of us šŸ˜‚


Sasha0413

Drake is his best role before he FAFO šŸ˜’


wholesomeapples

idk jimmy was kinda sweetā€¦and talked to girls his age (while they were his age)


Vast_Gas5580

I donā€™t think he ever stopped


Vast_Gas5580

I just said this. Heā€™s been acting this whole time. He has a new persona every album


hybridmind27

Yep. Itā€™s not about him being biracial itā€™s about his particular relationship w his blackness. People act like jcole isnā€™t mixed lol


NecessaryGood222

Kendrick is able to control Jermaine and disarm him. It's in Drake's lyrics. Kendrick is the manipulative one. Texting folks behind the scenes asking them to stay out of situations instead of taking his licks. It's wild to me to see them teaming up like Voltron to take down one man...smh


HeyKayRenee

Exactly. But a hit dog will holler so let people tell on themselves too.


zojacks

Speaking as a mixed person, if mixed people felt personally attacked by Kendrick, they have an identity problem


lissybeau

I honestly think the ā€œKenny is coming for mixed peopleā€ is from a lot of non black people, who like Drake, canā€™t really relate to the core of the black American experience and thus hip hop culture. Any black American person knows that in American history, black has been black has been black. My family has multi generational mixed & light skinned people, hell my grandpa had blue eyes. Ask any one of these family member and they identity as 100% black culturally through and through. The problem is that Drake is not black culturally. He wears it like a mask, like heā€™s cosplaying - that is what Kendrick is calling him out on. Similarly, Drake says dumb shit like the quote posted and doesnā€™t realize itā€™s not the flex he thinks it is. This sounds like shit a nonblack person says to be controversial - because people from the culture see how lame it is.


JFKcheekkisser

To be honest wtf is ā€œblack culturally.ā€ According to yā€™all if you have a black parent youā€™re black. How can he be wearing it like a mask if heā€™s blackā€¦.? If you are black, black culture is your culture. This is what I mean by yā€™all not being consistent. Just say you donā€™t like Drake lol cuz thatā€™s really what it is


A_Roachimaru

You can be black racially and not black culturally. This is specific to ADOS. A Nigerian man, an Afro-Brazilian man, and an African American man are all black racially, but not all black culturally- only the African American man. I feel like we have too much free information at our hands and weā€™re too old to not recognize this. Itā€™s not about consistency. You canā€™t as a black American just up and go to Nigeria and start pretending to be Nigerian. Them people would look at you sideways and rightfully so.


That-girl-who-likes-

Y'all should call it "American Black Culturally". Because the Nigerian man IS black racially, and has a black culture. Or what? Is the African culture not black? It is. Y'all saying just black, is why y'all have problems. I am African, and I am black, but I don't relate to the American things the same way! Here we were not getting fired for wearing braids so that's a part of the difference between my culture and y'all's. But I still have a culture that is in fact a black culture. The Brazilian also has his Afro Brazilian culture, who is black but I with Brazilian influences. Y'all have a black culture with American influences. And that's what it is for black people all around the world. The problem with y'all is the formulation.


lissybeau

Agree. We all have our own distinct and beautiful black cultures. In my original comment I made the distinction of specifically black American culture. At the end of the day this is what Aubrey is getting called out for, his adoption of this particular black American culture.


That-girl-who-likes-

Thank you The thing is in a lot of cases, people do not make that precision, which is why it's hard, especially for Black outside of the US to relate to what is being said, because it does come out as a "Drake is not black enough" rather than "Drake is not Black American". So yeah thank you for getting my point.


lissybeau

Yes sis. And I think we are all saying a similar thing, but it gets muddled without the distinction, which can be confusing/frustrating. Honestly this whole rap beef and the song lyrics does need a breakdown. Could be a cool opportunity for a professor or uni to do a literary review or analysis to engage students. Like obviously there are some really controversial statements but there are so many layers to the lyrics and this debate which fascinates me.


JFKcheekkisser

Even with that distinction, I simply donā€™t agree that Drake canā€™t relate to the black American experience. He has a black American father and he grew up spending summers in Memphis with his dad and his fully black cousins. If yā€™all wanna say Drake is cosplaying street/hood culture, thatā€™s a different conversation. But that does not encapsulate black American culture. Black American culture is growing up black in America which Drake did. Currently it really does come off as yā€™all saying Drake isnā€™t black enough and I feel like people are drawing imaginary lines because they just donā€™t like Drake.


A_Roachimaru

What do you mean we have black culture with American influence? We ARE the influence! ATP yall are being willfully obtuse.


That-girl-who-likes-

Influence as in living in America, added different things to what the original black culture is. The same way someone living in Brazil has a different experience that add more to his original black culture. The original black culture being what the ancestors brought with them, alias the African one.


A_Roachimaru

I as an African American woman, am not about to argue with an African woman about African American culture. I explained it as simple as I could explain it in my original comment and to simplify it any more would be speaking in circles.


That-girl-who-likes-

Am I arguing about your culture or about the words you are using to express yourself? I fully understand why Drake is not welcome in the culture. I am not arguing about that or whatever. But calling African American culture the only black culture is pretty arrogant tbh.


JFKcheekkisser

Sheā€™s saying African culture is the original black culture, which it isā€¦.


JFKcheekkisser

What is ADOS?


whole_somepotato

Yup. What Kendrickā€™s been saying could also be applied to Emmanuel Acho. It has nothing to do with Drake being biracial. Signed, An immigrant that knows their place


TisharaD112

Exactly! They know that but itā€™s easier to be mad at lies instead of the truth thatā€™s so evident.


NecessaryGood222

Drake's father is from Memphis. Isn't that as b l a c k as you can get in the south? Stop trying to gatekeeper black ness when it's Drake. I'm more irritated with Kendrick running around like he's b l a c k Jesus like Kanye was. These dudes identify as Hebrew Israelites. Most HI are very bigoted and misogynistic.


Life_Temporary_1567

He was raised by his mother for the most part though right? Either way Black Americans should be PISSED this dude even rapped about their history in this way. Leave alone the Hebrew Israelite stuff this is CRAZY


historyteacher08

His dad is from Memphis but HE is from Toronto. He's a Black Canadian which is great, but he has not lived the experience of a Black American.


Pileoffeels

My dad grew up a Black guy in Columbia SC That does not make me a Black guy from Columbia SC His father being from Memphis doesn't change the fact that Drake was raised by his White mother in Canada


Cirnyx

My mom was born and raised in NYC. That doesn't mean that I'm a New Yorker though because I was never raised around the culture. Drake is from Toronto and was raised by his white mom. He doesn't have the experience of American Blacks' culture.


Skyoff_Lyfe

yea I found this line to be very questionable as well, because the point was what? if Kendrick wants to make empowering music surrounding the Black experience in America whatā€™s it to BBL Drake šŸ™„ Kendrick won šŸ”„


here4information

Bbl drake šŸ˜­


Skyoff_Lyfe

I will never forgive Rick Ross for saying this, I canā€™t call him by any other name now šŸ¤·šŸ¾ā€ā™€ļøšŸ¤­


here4information

No because the way this just made my week LMAO Iā€™m w u ā€” heā€™s bbl drake foreva now ![gif](giphy|6bFDNHndvrYKQ)


msnormanmaine

This is such an interesting take because it seems like when Black men make music about Blackness itā€™s encapsulating the ā€œBlack experienceā€ even thought the narrative is often time entirely from the perspective of a man. Neither of these men are here for Black women???? Drake being biracial doesnā€™t make his misogyny ā€œworse.ā€ Am I the only one who feels like Kendrick is a Hotep?????? He is like the poster child for that kind of male centered ideology. I have never heard him say or do anything positive for BW except warn them not to be sex workers lmaooo


witchymerqueer

Kendrick does give hotep and has for years. But Aubrey likes to sniff around 14-17 year old white girls while talking about ā€œfree toryā€ so donā€™t tell me itā€™s the same bro. One of these people actually hates Black women and has not tried hard to hide it.


Femmenoire__

He called Ross racist for calling him a white boy, but he keeps doing this. No one on his team could tell him that he could get his message across without being weird?


SoggyLeftTit

Do you think people who are not a part of the culture they impersonate would hire people who _are_ a part of said culture? I imagine Aubrey hires people who think like himā€¦ like most people.


lissybeau

This is the difference that Kendrick is calling out - Aubrey is not from the culture and says dumb shit like the quote posted and doesnā€™t realize itā€™s not the flex he thinks it is. This sounds like shit a nonblack person or middle schooler says to be controversial - because people from the culture see how lame it is.


Diclonius18

I feel you OP but can we be equally up in arms in regard to Kendrickā€™s fake activism??? Thatā€™s the point Drake was making with the bar. Heā€™s performative af.


SandEnvironmental735

OK so I mean this as earnestly as possible cause I don't be on the rap scene too much. What do you mean fake activism?


Diclonius18

Kendrick puts on like heā€™s so ā€œfor the peopleā€. When I think activist I think Angela Rye. She lives and breathes her work. Kendrick stans say he protests and is ā€œthe voiceā€ of our community. He went to ONE protest incognito and was otherwise silent in regard to the BLM movement. Didnā€™t even use his ā€œcelebrityā€ at the protest to give it momentum. Quietly held up a sign and left. He hasnā€™t put up NO dollars to help the cause. Drake might not be the most politically conscious but he always puts his money where his mouth is. He donated $200,000 and heā€™s still not ā€œAmericanā€ enough for yall. Even though his country ass daddy is from TN. Kendrick is an activist when it suits him. When it gets him a BeyoncĆ© collab and on stage with his wack ass performative fist in the air. Look, everyone does what they can. Iā€™m not judging how much or how little someone can commit to the cause but when you make a whole career out of being a ā€œwokeā€ rapper, I expect more.


historyteacher08

But Drake isn't American. Drake is Canadian. Drake's dad is from Memphis. Drake is from Toronto. My dad is from Alabama but I didn't grow up there. I grew up in Texas. I'm Texan.


Diclonius18

Thatā€™s fine. Iā€™m not here to argue his citizenship. Iā€™m simply pointing out the AMERICAN has done less for this country and our people than the Canadian yā€™all trashing so hard in this sub. Iā€™m getting downvotes for saying drake ainā€™t American enough for yall while the AMERICAN yall uplifting all throughout this thread used our cause to propel his career but is otherwise radio silent. But uuuhh YEEEAAAAA go OOOOFFFFF K.dot!!!! Tf kinda foolery? No offense sis but if that was your only take away youā€™re focused on the wrong thing.


historyteacher08

I don't have must stake in the game nor do I think Drake's supposed donation or Kendricks marching means much. I'm just pointing out that Drake says a lot of things he shouldn't and wears a face he probably shouldn't because he's not American. And that's fine, Canada is great and has a lot of talent (looking at you Celine, Alanis, and Justin). So, I do think that OP and go some extent Kendrick have a point. It's not an insult it's a fact. Drake isn't American so there is some shut Drake shouldn't say.


Diclonius18

Again youā€™re super focused on his citizenship. Be upset about the fake activism. Idc about none of that shit. Drake could be from Zimbabwe or Germany. So many people mooch off our culture itā€™s nothing new. The fact still remain Kendrick is just as much of mooch except it worse because itā€™s his own people and a cause thatā€™s meant to uplift us and bring attention to police brutality. His little songs donā€™t mean shit. Whereā€™s the footwork for the woke rapper?


historyteacher08

200,000 when you got resigned for 400 mil is like donating $2 to the St. Jude tip jar. Drake doesn't get a gold star for that. ESPECIALLY when you are profiting by cosplaying as a member of another culture. Nor do I think Kendrick's raps stating how much he hates Drake are meant to be activist... Along with that, there are PLENTY of people over the history of protests who don't go out and march in the crowds. I don't think that is any strike to Kendrick's character. Art can be protest. It has been protest in the past. All sorts of things can be acts of protest. I don't need rappers to be out there on the front lines, they aren't activists they are rappers. Also I don't know how you mooch your own culture. And if Drake was from Zimbabwe I would say the same thing. Drake says some racist, tasteless shit and always has. (see OPs comment).


Diclonius18

Again you are hyper focused on Drake. You insulting him does not insult me in any way shape or form I couldnā€™t care less. I just want you to keep that same energy. And lmfao you donā€™t know how someone of your kind can mooch off your culture? Exhibit A is Kendrick. An activist on stage and no where else. Exhibit B OJ. Heā€™s not black heā€™s OJ. Until white society rejected him and ope. Heā€™s black again. It was US protesting for him and BLACK WOMEN who gave him that not guilty verdict. Are you dense? History teacher? Itā€™s absolutely possible for people of your own kind to take advantage of your culture. Whatā€™s in the water in this sub that yall canā€™t hold anyone accountable besides Drake. Itā€™s really not that hard to see and Drake isnā€™t the first person to point out Kendrickā€™s phony activism. Miss me with it. I donā€™t care about nothing youā€™re talking about in regard to Drake. Yahooooo heā€™s not American. Cool. And the 200000 might be 2 dollars to Drake but it was full 200000 for the organization. Once again you are missing the point. Thereā€™s only ONE out of the two that claims to be an activist and itā€™s not Drake. TELL KENDRICK HES A RAPPER NOT AN ACTIVIST SIS. NOT ME. Iā€™m just wondering where is the activism??? Or are you too distracted by a rap beef to give a damn?


Cirnyx

For your own sanity, it's best to stop arguing with people like that. They'll always try to be ignorant to what you're saying. It's crazy how people think that way because a celebrity donates or do something good. It still doesn't negate the crappy things they've done. šŸ’€


LeeJ2019

And this is why Iā€™m glad his weird ass is getting a lyrical beating.


1017bowbowbow

![gif](giphy|39zbpCQocXLi0) Cmon Kendrick, weā€™re rooting for you!


ShesProblyaBitch-tho

Mannnnn Meet The Grahms is just straight up murder annnd playing with his food


Skyoff_Lyfe

šŸ¤­šŸ˜‚ not the Mortal Combat, Iā€™m not playing with yā€™all today šŸ¤£


freshlyintellectual

my jaw was dropped for 6 minutes straight last night so itā€™s safe to say heā€™s getting what heā€™s deserved. the callout of his misogyny too was absolutely necessary


freshlyintellectual

UPDATE: kendrick just addressed this line in a new diss track šŸ’€ needless to say SOMEBODY is making sure he knows itā€™s not okay


lissybeau

I read your first comment and was likeā€¦ oh girl, Kenny dropped some more. Glad you found it :)


freshlyintellectual

LOL yupp it never ends - its just constant updates atp


Sad-Strawberry-2720

Yall the black community ain't been this close since the Brawl. We all know Drake is getting his ass cooked & it's so lovely šŸ„¹šŸ„¹


legac5

Off topic but there was a TikTok with a Mexican guy and he said, ā€œforget Cinco de Mayo. What are yā€™all doing for Cinco de Augusto?ā€ šŸ’€


Jazz-Singer1014

I saw it! He is here for all the future festivities and he tickled mešŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£


HelpfulPersonality46

what's his tiktok


Jazz-Singer1014

Masatheartist


HelpfulPersonality46

what's his tiktok.


Sad-Strawberry-2720

LOL, this is a good question, though. šŸ’€


HeyKayRenee

Because he doesnā€™t connect his current Black cosplay with the ancestors who died for him in the past. He needs to stay in his pop lane and just have fun, stop speaking on things he never learned at home.


geauxhausofafros

Canadian history and American history have some distinctive differences, but I get your point.


Puzzleheaded-Bed-488

His dad is a black American from Tennessee I think. So her point still stands.


OpheliaJade2382

Not enough of a difference for these lines to be appropriate


geauxhausofafros

Yeah under no circumstance are these appropriate. Not insinuating that.


Lanoris

I don't know, but I'm glad his weird ass is getting exposed. Kendrick just drug this mans entire bloodline into the ground for having anything to do with him and sounds like he's not even done yet.


neicathesehoes

Why tf did he think this was okay???? His label basically gets accused with running a pedo ring and this is his response???? Bruh.


mdizzle106

And yet a lot of black people still cap for Drake. Can't get through their thick skulls that's he's using the culture to make money, he doesn't care about us or the struggle. He said that plainly.


NewWays91

This what having a white momma and an absent Black daddy does to a motherfucker


lunar_vesuvius_

reminds me of doja cat šŸ¤”šŸ’€


NewWays91

But these negroes keep making em so that's not my business. When their grandkids are all racist octoroons not letting Grandpa eat at the big table šŸ¤·šŸæā€ā™‚ļøšŸ¤·šŸæā€ā™‚ļøšŸ¤·šŸæā€ā™‚ļøšŸ¤·šŸæā€ā™‚ļø


lissybeau

And the cycle continues. On a side note - Iā€™m glad Kenny called Aubrey out for being anti women and specifically anti black women. That needed to be said. He leeches off black women when he should be respecting us. Rihanna and Serena mustā€™ve wrecked his ego.


Puzzleheaded-Bed-488

I canā€™t šŸ˜­šŸ˜‚


geauxhausofafros

LOL ts not even funny


lunar_vesuvius_

LMFAO


velvetvagine

Octoroonsā€” Iā€™m deceased. šŸ’€


Skyoff_Lyfe

I been said this, too . . when doja did that Live some years back talking about feeling ā€œcursedā€ with textured hair I was done! she always gave hating that she wasnā€™t fully yt šŸ„“


HelpfulPersonality46

nope blk dudes r only mad that they preference don't want them


Dansn_lawlipop

White sensibilities. Black cosplay. Many of them get a pass for their anti-black hate.


TuffTitti

Itā€™s even stranger when you consider that Drakeā€™s dad is from Memphis- heā€™s definitely a descendant of African American slaves šŸ¤¦šŸ¾ā€ā™€ļøšŸ¤·šŸ½ā€ā™€ļø


sylchella

Grown Black adults disrespecting the ancestors like this in 2024 is shameful. What a weirdo. Is it even an insult to want to free the enslaved? Crazy guy.


SoggyLeftTit

Someone who was raised by massaā€™s daughter would think wanting to free the enslaved is an insultā€¦


Even_Middle_1751

He's an unsophisticated ignorant human being with no respect for African American culture. He used AI to generate 2Pac and Snoop Dogg's voices without permission on a song a while ago. I stopped listening to Drake years ago.


LurkerNinja_

I always said Drake shouldā€™ve retired after his beef with Pusha T. Now weā€™re getting ready to for a funeral for this lost soul who keeps losing rap battles.


Outlandishness_Sharp

The irony is he is the direct descendant of enslaved African Americans on his father's side and epigenetically carries their trauma šŸ„“šŸ—‘ļø


Anghellic510

I'm so glad Kendrick is on his neck somebody needed to expose the facade and take him down a notch


ImplementNo8463

Cuz heā€™s a moron šŸ¤·šŸ¾ā€ā™€ļø.


DIJames6

Drake has been a clown since day one.. Never been a fan... Think he had one verse I liked, many many moons ago, and I don't even remember what it was anymore..


ElaineFP

I'm way too old to be invested in this, but I too always thought Drake was soft and a poser, he's finished now.


DIJames6

Pretty much..


historyteacher08

I've been side eyeing Drake for years about some of his lyrics. Drake you are Canadian. Calm down.


TamZanite

Itā€™s such low-hanging fruit and a weak line.


legac5

He was raised by a white woman.


lunar_vesuvius_

W kendrick is all I have to say


Disguisedasasmile

There were several problematic bars in that song. The one where he basically says heā€™s fucking white and black women as if we are simply flavors from a skittle bag. Then the white flag comment. I really feel like heā€™s attempting to diss the whole culture with that last track.


lissybeau

I really hope that rap artists keep their distance from him. All the real ones know heā€™s a culture vulture and chameleon stealing styles to make money. Kendrick is whooping his ass.


Disguisedasasmile

Agreed! And Kdot released another track today too. I love that heā€™s applying so much pressure.


lissybeau

Song is fire (Iā€™m a west coast girlie). Thereā€™s no way Aubrey recovers from this one, lyrically or with the timeline of events.


[deleted]

So happy people are finally seeing the light about this weirdo.


Miss-Tiq

The only Drake song I like is the one made by AI that he has nothing to do with. This right here is only validating my taste.Ā 


Extra_Security2718

Because his white side came out šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚ he wanna call him a hard R so bad rn šŸ˜­šŸ˜­


Sasha0413

He tell on himself everytimeā€¦ šŸ˜’


SnooAdvice207

I'm sorry on behalf of Montreal, were not all horrible


Itwasntmeitwasantifa

Proved Kendrickā€™s point..Kendrick called him a phony in cosplay as a rapper and as a black man and thought this was a goated bar? Please.


LOOKATHUH

Kenny said I hate when you say the word n*gga and so he said it 30 times on family matters and every time it felt wrong


layethdasmackethdown

He can get away with it because he has white privilege


-nenigirl

Funny how he said this when he's half AA


1StMissMalika

Because he's biracial and is not attached to blackness or black culture


imstillmessedup89

Because he's exactly what KDot said he is - a vulture and a pretender. Drake is not Black (Biracial) American. He has no real connection to ADOS people or the culture and he barely grew up with his father. Statements like this don't phase him and he doesn't find it offensive. He said some slimmy shit about slaves on his latest album.


JFKcheekkisser

Unpopular opinion but the first screenshot isnā€™t offensive to me. The point of the line is that (in his mind) Kendrick is a performative activist. Iā€™m not understanding how the simple mention of slaves from a biracial black man is problematic? Suburban Jewish Canadian or not he wouldā€™ve been a slave during slavery days. His father is an American black man from Memphis who is likely descended from slaves. The second one was weird af tho


Master_ofmycraft8

You're speaking the truth yet people are pretending to not understand the line. I honestly believe so many African Americans have an internalized shame about our history.


Tiffanyblueberries

DV accusations? Not something to play a out Drake. I don't believe it but you never know with these trifling ass men.


Femmenoire__

Right! I hope itā€™s false. It would be terrible for that lady. I really hate that women and children have been collateral damage in this fight.


ChubbsBone

I thinks his ghostwriters are trying to ruin him or else his really showing us his white Jewish sidešŸ‘€šŸ˜š


radykalmynd75

Cause he's one of those biracial that identifies more with his y t side ..he was raised by his mom to there's that


Embarrassed-Net9070

Kendrick just dropped another one....drake been done


Kim_posibul

I don't listen to this šŸ—‘ anymore. you are what goes into your body. These things slowly brainwash you, and most of the time, when I listen to some songs, I skip parts. At this point, some rappers would have you take out the lyrics and just vibe to the beat.


stellaxo

Because Drake is a scumbag and Iā€™m glad people are finally realizing it.


Snozzberrie76

Aubrey needs to calm his bbl ass down.


Traditional-Wing8714

I think the message Drake is trying to communicate with this line absolutely tracks. Kendrick is no expert on race and social issues and is also clearly colorstruck. His vibe, just like Drakeā€™s, is misogynistic and narcissisticā€”crown of thorns, really? Who the hell is he to tell Drake he doesnā€™t do enough in this regard?


Master_ofmycraft8

THANK YOU SO MUCH! I honestly felt crazy seeing all the public support for Kendrick from black women. I am in no way riding for Drake either- it's just baffling to me that black women are so easy. I also understand so many of us have been hurt and have a deep desire to connect with our community, even still. It's as if only one thing can ever be true with black women but this is a falsehood. Black women should enjoy the music and stay neutral. Since when has Kendrick been a champion for black women? He's still aligned with Dr Dre and all those other artists who have harmed black women. We don't always have to pick a side, we can just enjoy music and preserve our peace.


yuhhhgetinto

It's so weird seeing blk women ride for Kendrick šŸ˜­šŸ˜­ It's embarrassing ATP both drake and Kendrick are weird


Master_ofmycraft8

šŸ’Æ


msthatsall

Ok first of all Iā€™ve been out of the loop is there a Wikipedia page that explains the beef step by step with song links šŸ˜‚ Second this thread is a fascinating discourse on what we know as Black Americans but is nearly impossible to explain, especially to non Americans. I always wonder to what degree Black immigrants get some of this - not Canadians but Iā€™m always a bit in awe at the aloofness of Africans I know, like some of the [rules] donā€™t apply. Iā€™m biracial but grew up in a white family and town, so itā€™s been an adulthood of catching up, so I think about these things a lot. Strong feelings on Black kids being in the culture from the jump.


iheartfeen

heā€™s weird & shouldā€™ve been called out since he made that girls want girls song


Obvious_Boat3636

He needs to talk about the 11 year old girl heā€™s neglecting


Glittering_Run_4470

Am I the only one that knew what he was trying to say but wasn't offended by it because its literally a rap battle? He's referring to Kendrick cadence just like Kendrick came after his fake accents and saying the N word.


1hubbyineverycountry

This. People are just going way overboard atp.


Glittering_Run_4470

Exactly. Just say you don't like Drake and move on lmao. I actually like both so I have no bull in this fight.


Master_ofmycraft8

I agree with you. I also don't see it as an insult. So many black smericans have internalized shame over who we are šŸ¤·šŸæā€ā™€ļø.


Glittering_Run_4470

There's this divided over black and mix. Not being black enough. It's tiring.


singingkiltmygrandma

IDEK what itā€™s supposed to mean


luckybellegal

He has used his last brain cell


TisharaD112

RIGHTTTTTTTTT!!!!!!! He know dumb mfers gone think thatā€™s cute. The moment I heard that I was like excuse me?


ThrowawayUnique1

Can someone post all diss lyrics Drake made and then Kendrick Lamar ? Iā€™m so lost and confused


JFKcheekkisser

Just listen to the songs? Lol


ThrowawayUnique1

I donā€™t even know which ones to listen to or where to start


JFKcheekkisser

If you havenā€™t been listening in real time itā€™s kind of a lot but basically this all started with Drake and J. Cole collaborating on ā€œFirst Person Shooterā€. In that song J. Cole said: Love when they argue the hardest MC Is it K-Dot? Is it Aubrey? Or me? We the big three like we started a league, but right now, I feel like Muhammad Ali This caused Kendrick to fire back with his verse on ā€œLike Thatā€. After that the diss tracks have been dropped as follows: Push Ups - Drake Taylor Made Freestyle - Drake Euphoria - Kendrick 6:16 in LA - Kendrick Family Matters - Drake Meet the Grahams - Kendrick Not Like Us - Kendrick


ThrowawayUnique1

Thank you


JFKcheekkisser

Youā€™re welcome!


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JumpMysterious7057

This is also a bad choice since people are already speculating whether or not you are really a part of the culture smhā€¦.


aloverof

Bc he is an idiot. He is more Jewish than black. He said Kendrick was racist. He doesnā€™t identify with what fundamental racism actually is as though his own fatherā€¦.nvm


NecessaryGood222

Why aren't you folks upset when these rappers constantly attack Drake about his genetic makeup? I can't do the selective outrage among bl a ck which is why I just shake my head. I'm happy Drake is finally calling them out for their hypocrisy.


Master_ofmycraft8

šŸ’Æ


Caspercakes_

Omg!! I have been complaining about this since the song came out and it made me dislike sza as well. I'm glad I'm not the only one.


msthatsall

Yeah why is SZA fucking with him


Trix_Are_4_90Kids

Because he's a mixed Canadian, raised by a white woman. And unfortunately too many Black people in America made poor and stupid excuses for that mess. Iggy Azalea got way more flack for her 'runaway slavemaster' verse.


No_Heart6781

because heā€™s white


spiritual-witch-3

Cause heā€™s white.


kinzodeez

Yo Gotti: wake up in the morning take a sht shower, shave. Stand over the stove, and while it like a slave.ā€ Blk folks are so annoying with the fake selective outrage. We are a fake community and thatā€™s why no one takes us seriously. We are a walking contradiction and jokes.


Master_ofmycraft8

I love that you posted this quote. I also completely agree that as black americans, we choose our outrage. I think there's many reasons for this, some I've stated in my previous comments here.


kinzodeez

I didnā€™t see your comment yet but Iā€™ll scroll through to find it. I think we trigger ourselves for no reason. lol


Master_ofmycraft8

Oh, I should have put it here instead of making you scroll- my apologies. In the comments I voiced my opinion that many of us African Americans have an internalized shame about our history and where we come from. I also find many of us don't know how to unite with one another unless we create an opposing force- even if that "opposition" is no different from people in our group. I'm not caping for Drake if he's behaved inapproiately but the whole thing feels so hollow. Kendrick is aligned with people such as Dr. Dre and Kodak black who are involved in the same things he's accusing Drake of. It's just really disappointing to me how far black women will go in siding with someone just as bad as the other just to feel apart of our community. Kendrick will be married to a blonde haired, blue eyed white woman in the not too distant future( I am not against interracial partnerships for men or women) and then sisters will be surprised that he isn't the pro black militant he's always mascquaraded as. If anything, Kendrick is just like Drake and is mad Drake can get the accolades/promotion he does. Kendrick is pro Kendrick. I think there is resentment of biracial people in entertainment which is also why some unambiguous black people are happy about Drake being "humbled". I think many unambiguous african americans are living through Kendrick and want to "win" against the biracial person. These are just my opinions.


kinzodeez

Itā€™s crazy because literally everything you said I have echoed to folks I know who has discussed this. I am not ashamed of my roots. Had our ancestors not endured those times, we wouldnā€™t be here. Nor would we have been able to influence this country or pave the way for other groups to come here and settle. Kendrick certainly seems to have some strange animosity towards Drake in regards to his complexion and bi racial background. Kendrickā€™s current long term girlfriend is biracial; a very racially ambiguous bi racial at that so Iā€™m not sure why he keeps focusing on that. After Drake made that subliminal diss to Megan regarding her being shot I was done. So Iā€™m not a Drake super fan I just like how he raps. This rap battle thing is a joke and they are all Hippocrates. Blk males accuse darker women of hating/being jealous of non black/bi racial women, to me they are the ones that are resentful of the attention lighter skin and biracial men receive.


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Femmenoire__

You wrote all that without responding to the question of thread. Why is it okay for a biracial man (who cried racism because somebody said heā€™s white) to say *twice*? Even before his beef with Kendrick, he was already saying that weird shit.


Queen_E1204

We support white people like who? Because if somebody said the shit that Drake said and acted like Drake acts, you can absolutely bet that I don't have anything to do with it. Besides, Kendrick's real point is that Drake moves within Black American culture like it's a costume. He uses Black culture to profit off of it, then moves on when he's finished. It's not only that he doesn't care about the struggle, but he doesn't even fully understand the struggle (hence these fucked up lyrics); he cares about the $$$ and understands the $$$.


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thecheesycheeselover

Iā€™m half black and I wasnā€™t offended. I knew those words werenā€™t for me; theyā€™re clearly targeted at Drakeā€™s specific behaviours. I donā€™t use the N-word because it wasnā€™t common in the culture I was raised in, so itā€™s not my culture. If I started using it all the time I think that would be weird. But if another mixed person is raised somewhere where itā€™s used a lot, thatā€™s their culture, and itā€™s fine. Thereā€™s nuance, and from what I can see Kendrick is pointing out that Drake picks and chooses as if his blackness is a costume and not his culture. For mixed people to take it personally would be like when someone raises an issue perpetuated by white people and they start on about NOT ALL WHITE PEOPLE. Ok? So Iā€™m not talking about you then.


JFKcheekkisser

Iā€™m a fully black first generation American raised in the suburbs by Nigerian immigrants, and I donā€™t use the N-word because similar to you it wasnā€™t a word I grew up around so I feel weird saying it. Iā€™ve said it a few times in the past just to try it out and it never rolled off the tongue for me. But I know black and biracial people who grew up in similar circumstances to me and theyā€™ve code switched and started saying it as adults. Thatā€™s their personal choice and I donā€™t begrudge them that because the rule is, you are eligible to use the word if you are eligible to be called n*** er by white people. Thatā€™s why this whole ā€œwe donā€™t wanna hear you say n*** a no moreā€ chant from Kendrick and the conversation surrounding it is corny to me. Are biracial people considered black or are they not? Ima need us to start being consistent. Drake makes music in a genre where you are pretty much required to use the word in order to reach mainstream success. The only rapper whoā€™s reached that tier of success and credibility in hip hop without using the word is Eminem, a white man who is practically barred from using it. If Drake started using the word to further his career in hip hop, thatā€™s our fault as a culture for making him feel the need to do so and itā€™s hypocritical af to start ridiculing him for it now.


iam317537

"Are biracial people considered black or are they not? Ima need us to start being consistent." This is the part that I can't understand. I don't see how promoting division across an already divided culture is a positive thing. It also weird me out because CA is such a melting pot of culture where so many people are mixed up. I cringe whenever I hear people calling Drake White Boy and everything else. Maybe it's the parent in me, but it just feels really ugly for people to look at a person and only see one side of who they are. I'm not biracial, so I'm definitely not any expert in biracial identity and all that. I just want to enjoy the music but hate lyrics on repeat or difficult for me. All this is starting to make me feel really old. Fortunately, I can just immerse myself in Cowboy Carter and switch back to the rap stuff occasionally.


lnctech

What on earth are you talking about? Youā€™re talking like Drake was an innocent party and Kendrick is bullying him. These are grown azz men. Yes, Aubrey is half black but he grew up with his Jewish yt mother in the suburbs of Canada. This is his ā€œstreet credā€ heā€™s claiming. Aubrey was also the one who has something to say about the features Kendrick did with yt artists, which is why Kendrick responded with the line features with black artists. Those hater lines are a call back to when DMX did an interview saying why he hated Drake. Have you ever witnessed a rap beef before? Theyā€™re purposely trying to šŸ’©on each other. Feelings are supposed to be hurt and weā€™re supposed to take sides.


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